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Speaker 1: Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is

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Speaker 2: We got lost, Just say we got lost? To say

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow night's a draft, so we're definitely gonna do some

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Speaker 1: thousand and five. And why should we go back to

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Speaker 1: the two thousand and five NFL draft. Well, that's when

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Speaker 3: It is. It is miracle too. They're actually gonna make

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Speaker 1: So twenty years later, the year Matt Castle was drafted

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Speaker 3: Remember you really you were watching. I really wasn't.

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Speaker 3: I say that all the time. The commentators came on

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Speaker 1: High ceiling guy, though high ceiling the hard worker. Two

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Speaker 3: Right, there wasn't a lot of the expectations for me

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd say five percent. Really, I mean I had

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Speaker 3: I was definitely watching the draft at that point, and

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Speaker 3: Man, they could have got me earlier.

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Speaker 1: My wife and I were in bed, she was mostly asleep,

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Speaker 3: See, I'm a big physical comedy. Anytime they show the

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Speaker 1: Oh I can't do that anymore, though, Oh no, I

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Speaker 3: I took the kids of that. That was epic. Rock

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Speaker 3: That's bad.

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Speaker 1: I've signed up for a pickleball tournament.

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Speaker 3: Yes, breaking news, breaking news, everybody hot off the press.

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Speaker 1: I've signed up for a pickleball tournament. I've never played

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Speaker 3: Now do you rotate through in the tournament or you

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Speaker 3: When is this.

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Speaker 1: Two weeks?

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Speaker 3: Two weeks. If I'm free, I'm coming.

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Speaker 5: You're not.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that we can do. You can. How often do

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Speaker 3: I do play a little bit. Let's go. Well, you

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Speaker 3: It to a certain degree. I think it's always fascinating

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Speaker 1: We're about to talk with Matt Light, three times Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl champion with the Patriots, First Team, All Pro, three

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Speaker 3: Matt Light's story. I mean, there's so many to choose from.

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Speaker 3: looking for Russ Hawkstein, who is our backup, backup guard

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Speaker 3: Light set the entire thing up. So we're sitting on

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Speaker 3: his coffees working on this document went blank slate. Belichick

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Speaker 3: It's the funniest stuff.

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Speaker 1: Ever, how dominant was he as a tackle.

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Speaker 3: Incredibly dominant. You always felt great with him over there

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Speaker 3: Maddie Light. This guy is a three time Super Bowl

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Speaker 3: champion perenni All Pro. He is a ex teammate of mine,

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Speaker 3: in the Patriot Hall of Fame. Welcome the show, Matt, Yes, sir,

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Speaker 3: clause cast Dog.

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Speaker 6: You're a beautiful man, and I just got to tell

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Speaker 5: I hope you are well, my friend. And you had

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Speaker 5: a great easter.

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Speaker 3: Oh you know what, we had a fantastic easter, just

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Speaker 5: All year here in New England. So yeah, it was

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Speaker 1: Hey, Matt, Bobby here, first time that got to meet you.

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Speaker 1: So nice to meet you. But I've heard a lot

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Speaker 1: Matt Lives, We're gonna shoot a bunch of stuff with

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Speaker 1: some big guns. That's all he said. Like that's my

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Speaker 6: You know, So as you can probably guess, you have

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Speaker 5: That's just kind of always been my thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that is your thing. I remember the first time

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Speaker 6: And actually what actually happened is is that you you

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Speaker 6: So then when the next group came around, you waited

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Speaker 1: Hey, Matt, a question. So we've talked with Castle here

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Speaker 1: What do you remember about that?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 6: And you know, I'll tell you as a teammate, I'm

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Speaker 6: but that was a tough position for Castle to be in,

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Speaker 5: And for me as an.

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Speaker 6: But man, it was it was an odd time, but

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Speaker 5: You know, even with that rotation.

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Speaker 3: You never said anything negative to me about it. You

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Speaker 5: No? I mean I was. I was scared as hell

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Speaker 3: really ugly.

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Speaker 5: Really quick, to be honest with you.

440
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Speaker 3: So you won three super Bowls, you participated in five

441
00:19:23,296 --> 00:19:27,416
Speaker 3: Super Bowls. What's the most memorable of all those massive

442
00:19:27,455 --> 00:19:30,416
Speaker 3: wins or losses from that Super Bowl runs?

443
00:19:30,656 --> 00:19:33,535
Speaker 6: You know, I think the first one was such a whirlwind.

444
00:19:33,576 --> 00:19:36,136
Speaker 6: It was my rookie season, and you know, they had

445
00:19:36,136 --> 00:19:37,896
Speaker 6: no idea who any of us were. I mean not

446
00:19:37,975 --> 00:19:39,936
Speaker 6: just because we didn't have our names on our backs,

447
00:19:39,975 --> 00:19:44,376
Speaker 6: but because like literally no one knew who we were and.

448
00:19:44,256 --> 00:19:46,696
Speaker 5: We weren't supposed to be there. It was nine to eleven.

449
00:19:47,256 --> 00:19:49,095
Speaker 6: You know, all the things that happened, I mean, our

450
00:19:49,176 --> 00:19:53,616
Speaker 6: quarterback coach passed away during training camp, I mean, the

451
00:19:53,616 --> 00:19:56,615
Speaker 6: the adversities coming in as a as a rookie, and

452
00:19:56,656 --> 00:19:58,575
Speaker 6: then on top of that, all the things that we

453
00:19:58,696 --> 00:20:03,456
Speaker 6: experienced throughout that season. You know, obviously drew bledsoe going down.

454
00:20:03,495 --> 00:20:06,496
Speaker 6: I mean that one sticks out in my the most.

455
00:20:07,376 --> 00:20:09,656
Speaker 6: And the impact that I had on my family. Right

456
00:20:09,975 --> 00:20:12,376
Speaker 6: my wife was pregnant. You know, we're pregnant with our

457
00:20:12,376 --> 00:20:16,055
Speaker 6: first kid. We're just fresh out of college, and you know,

458
00:20:16,256 --> 00:20:19,535
Speaker 6: I just remember gearing up for that run. You know,

459
00:20:19,616 --> 00:20:24,096
Speaker 6: we had the snow game against Oakland with the tuck rule,

460
00:20:24,455 --> 00:20:28,216
Speaker 6: and I mean there were just so many moments in

461
00:20:28,256 --> 00:20:31,455
Speaker 6: that season where I thought, man, I can't believe this

462
00:20:31,495 --> 00:20:35,096
Speaker 6: is actually happening. And then later in my career, I

463
00:20:35,176 --> 00:20:38,015
Speaker 6: think I think one of the moments that really stands

464
00:20:38,016 --> 00:20:42,975
Speaker 6: out for me is looking back on just after the

465
00:20:43,016 --> 00:20:47,735
Speaker 6: first Super Bowl loss against the Giants, and I guess

466
00:20:47,776 --> 00:20:51,256
Speaker 6: that was whatever, that was, eighth nine, whatever, No, yeah,

467
00:20:51,296 --> 00:20:57,176
Speaker 6: somewhere in there, yeah, two thousand and seven, And I

468
00:20:57,215 --> 00:21:00,975
Speaker 6: remember looking at Junior Seau in the locker room, and

469
00:21:01,735 --> 00:21:05,296
Speaker 6: obviously we were all really upset about how that game ended,

470
00:21:05,856 --> 00:21:09,376
Speaker 6: and just thinking, man, here's a guy who's meant so

471
00:21:09,616 --> 00:21:14,136
Speaker 6: much to the NFL and he's had such an incredible career,

472
00:21:15,056 --> 00:21:19,535
Speaker 6: and to not have that moment for him, I felt

473
00:21:19,576 --> 00:21:21,936
Speaker 6: worse for him than I did for myself. So, you know,

474
00:21:21,975 --> 00:21:24,616
Speaker 6: there are so many highs and lows when it comes

475
00:21:24,656 --> 00:21:26,855
Speaker 6: to playing the game of football. And when you win

476
00:21:26,936 --> 00:21:32,056
Speaker 6: a Super Bowl, obviously it's a wild time. But when

477
00:21:32,096 --> 00:21:35,255
Speaker 6: you don't, when you don't actually make it happen in

478
00:21:35,376 --> 00:21:38,776
Speaker 6: the biggest moment of your career, you know, I think

479
00:21:38,776 --> 00:21:40,656
Speaker 6: there's things that you take away from that. And for me,

480
00:21:40,696 --> 00:21:42,295
Speaker 6: it was just looking at some of these guys that

481
00:21:42,336 --> 00:21:44,896
Speaker 6: I played with and just wishing for them that they

482
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Speaker 6: had that moment.

483
00:22:01,576 --> 00:22:04,096
Speaker 1: The draft coming up this week, you were a second

484
00:22:04,176 --> 00:22:07,376
Speaker 1: round pick. Where did you think you would fall and

485
00:22:07,696 --> 00:22:09,496
Speaker 1: what was the draft night like for you?

486
00:22:10,096 --> 00:22:13,496
Speaker 5: Well, the draft for me was interesting.

487
00:22:13,536 --> 00:22:17,016
Speaker 6: I was at the Neon Cactus, which is a country

488
00:22:17,056 --> 00:22:23,656
Speaker 6: bar in Westlafayette, Indiana, at Purdue, and uh, from what

489
00:22:23,735 --> 00:22:27,136
Speaker 6: I remember, it was a pretty good moment. But I

490
00:22:27,176 --> 00:22:29,295
Speaker 6: will say this, Bobby, it was the first time that

491
00:22:29,336 --> 00:22:32,095
Speaker 6: I'd never seen a draft in my life. So I

492
00:22:32,096 --> 00:22:34,856
Speaker 6: had never, you know, never even thought about playing in

493
00:22:34,856 --> 00:22:38,495
Speaker 6: the NFL growing up. And you know, for me, I

494
00:22:38,536 --> 00:22:40,416
Speaker 6: thought I was going to be a forest ranger, you know,

495
00:22:40,455 --> 00:22:42,376
Speaker 6: I thought i'd be you know, riding a horse through

496
00:22:42,376 --> 00:22:45,815
Speaker 6: the woods. And I got this opportunity, and you know,

497
00:22:46,096 --> 00:22:47,896
Speaker 6: watching the draft for me was wild.

498
00:22:49,215 --> 00:22:50,496
Speaker 5: It was an amazing experience.

499
00:22:50,536 --> 00:22:52,096
Speaker 6: But I remember a buddy of mine came up to

500
00:22:52,136 --> 00:22:54,376
Speaker 6: me right after I got picked, and and and the

501
00:22:54,376 --> 00:22:56,656
Speaker 6: way I got picked, you know, it was kind of interesting.

502
00:22:57,816 --> 00:22:57,975
Speaker 3: You know.

503
00:22:58,016 --> 00:22:59,896
Speaker 6: I get a call from Scott Pioli, the head of

504
00:22:59,896 --> 00:23:02,856
Speaker 6: player personnel, and he's like, who are you talking to?

505
00:23:02,936 --> 00:23:05,416
Speaker 6: And I didn't know that there was like, you know,

506
00:23:05,536 --> 00:23:08,615
Speaker 6: a little bit of gamesmanship. And when I told him

507
00:23:08,616 --> 00:23:10,496
Speaker 6: who I was talking to, He's like, all right, don't

508
00:23:10,495 --> 00:23:12,416
Speaker 6: don't go back over and talk to them. We're gonna

509
00:23:12,416 --> 00:23:15,216
Speaker 6: go ahead and draft you. And I'm like, great, awesome.

510
00:23:15,656 --> 00:23:17,936
Speaker 6: And then when I see my name come across the screen,

511
00:23:17,975 --> 00:23:20,495
Speaker 6: I was like, oh, man, this is actually happening. A

512
00:23:20,495 --> 00:23:22,856
Speaker 6: buddy of mine comes running up to me and he's like, hey, man,

513
00:23:23,056 --> 00:23:25,056
Speaker 6: you know how much money the guy made for a

514
00:23:25,176 --> 00:23:27,496
Speaker 6: signing bonus in the forty eighth overall pick.

515
00:23:27,896 --> 00:23:30,616
Speaker 5: And I'm like, I have no idea. He's like, dude,

516
00:23:30,656 --> 00:23:33,136
Speaker 5: that guy got like over a million dollars. You're a millionaire.

517
00:23:33,176 --> 00:23:35,096
Speaker 5: And I'm like, wow, that's amazing.

518
00:23:36,896 --> 00:23:39,455
Speaker 6: I never thought about it, man, Like, it never entered

519
00:23:39,455 --> 00:23:41,936
Speaker 6: my mind. And I guess in some ways I'm thankful

520
00:23:41,975 --> 00:23:44,736
Speaker 6: for that, you know. I mean, I guess when you're ignorant,

521
00:23:44,975 --> 00:23:47,296
Speaker 6: you know, it can be an advantage at times.

522
00:23:48,495 --> 00:23:51,056
Speaker 5: But man, it was a great experience.

523
00:23:51,096 --> 00:23:53,616
Speaker 6: It was great experience for my family, for me, and

524
00:23:54,136 --> 00:23:56,136
Speaker 6: you know, from then on, I learned a lot about

525
00:23:56,136 --> 00:23:58,136
Speaker 6: the NFL in a very short period of time.

526
00:23:58,376 --> 00:24:00,376
Speaker 3: You know, as a young guy coming into that locker room,

527
00:24:00,376 --> 00:24:02,536
Speaker 3: it can be intimidating. But you're one of the best

528
00:24:02,616 --> 00:24:06,176
Speaker 3: leaders I've ever been around, and you have this amazing

529
00:24:06,256 --> 00:24:09,616
Speaker 3: ability to bring people together, and you always took pride

530
00:24:09,616 --> 00:24:12,295
Speaker 3: in that. But in addition to that, you made it

531
00:24:12,376 --> 00:24:14,975
Speaker 3: fun in an environment, as you well know with Coach

532
00:24:15,016 --> 00:24:19,455
Speaker 3: Belichick in New England, that can get a little bit stale.

533
00:24:20,416 --> 00:24:24,656
Speaker 3: You feel the pressures consistently, but you always found ways

534
00:24:25,296 --> 00:24:27,696
Speaker 3: to have fun. And some of these things are legendary,

535
00:24:27,896 --> 00:24:31,336
Speaker 3: like Bill Belichick with the mouse and the exchange. You

536
00:24:31,416 --> 00:24:33,095
Speaker 3: got to talk about some of the things that you

537
00:24:33,096 --> 00:24:34,896
Speaker 3: did and how in the world did you come up

538
00:24:34,896 --> 00:24:36,136
Speaker 3: with these things conceptually?

539
00:24:36,416 --> 00:24:38,455
Speaker 5: Well, I mean I do get it, honest. You know.

540
00:24:38,536 --> 00:24:42,615
Speaker 6: My great grandfather started a club in my hometown and

541
00:24:42,616 --> 00:24:45,535
Speaker 6: it's the longest running club in existence. It's over one

542
00:24:45,576 --> 00:24:48,495
Speaker 6: hundred years old now and it's called the Liars Club.

543
00:24:48,975 --> 00:24:51,815
Speaker 6: And so I grew up watching my dad and my

544
00:24:51,975 --> 00:24:56,416
Speaker 6: uncles prepare and my cousins prepare for these meetings once

545
00:24:56,455 --> 00:24:58,616
Speaker 6: a year where they would prank someone.

546
00:24:58,735 --> 00:24:59,775
Speaker 5: Now this is way.

547
00:24:59,616 --> 00:25:02,376
Speaker 6: Before you know all the stuff now that you see

548
00:25:02,416 --> 00:25:05,296
Speaker 6: online or you know, the punk or any of that

549
00:25:05,455 --> 00:25:08,416
Speaker 6: kind of stuff. The jerky boys like you know, this

550
00:25:08,416 --> 00:25:10,256
Speaker 6: this goes way back and it was a whole bunch

551
00:25:10,296 --> 00:25:12,096
Speaker 6: of outdoors and they got together and they would pull

552
00:25:12,096 --> 00:25:14,856
Speaker 6: pranks like they would have you know, a shriff arrest

553
00:25:14,975 --> 00:25:17,136
Speaker 6: somebody as a peeping tom and then they bring him

554
00:25:17,136 --> 00:25:19,416
Speaker 6: to the meeting and he'd have to, you know, answer

555
00:25:19,495 --> 00:25:22,176
Speaker 6: to his crime and then they'd induct him into the

556
00:25:22,296 --> 00:25:24,576
Speaker 6: Liar's Club through some crazy ritual.

557
00:25:25,096 --> 00:25:29,736
Speaker 5: And so I guess for me, it's just always been something.

558
00:25:29,416 --> 00:25:32,295
Speaker 6: That, you know, you don't prank people you don't like, right, So, like,

559
00:25:32,336 --> 00:25:35,735
Speaker 6: whenever you're messing with somebody, it's because you actually appreciate them.

560
00:25:35,975 --> 00:25:38,535
Speaker 6: Most people are like, dude, these people hate you that

561
00:25:38,576 --> 00:25:41,016
Speaker 6: you've messed with, and I'm like, no, I'm like, I'll

562
00:25:41,096 --> 00:25:44,136
Speaker 6: key someone's car. And that sounds a little terrible these

563
00:25:44,215 --> 00:25:47,775
Speaker 6: days with this whole you know, elon thing, But like,

564
00:25:48,296 --> 00:25:51,055
Speaker 6: I'm not going to prank someone I don't appreciate or

565
00:25:51,096 --> 00:25:54,376
Speaker 6: I don't love, and I always, I always took that

566
00:25:54,416 --> 00:25:58,055
Speaker 6: to heart. And I guess some of these moments, you know,

567
00:25:58,215 --> 00:25:59,896
Speaker 6: just came out of the fact that, as you know,

568
00:26:00,536 --> 00:26:03,496
Speaker 6: we sit there in meetings all day long and you're

569
00:26:03,536 --> 00:26:06,255
Speaker 6: losing your mind and you just watch in film and

570
00:26:06,735 --> 00:26:09,496
Speaker 6: getting dog cuss by your coaches, and in the back

571
00:26:09,536 --> 00:26:11,455
Speaker 6: of my mind, I'm trying to stay awake, and I'm like,

572
00:26:11,656 --> 00:26:13,376
Speaker 6: all right, how can I have fun with this? And

573
00:26:13,816 --> 00:26:18,896
Speaker 6: as you'll remember, Matt, one of my favorites was in

574
00:26:19,096 --> 00:26:24,535
Speaker 6: training camp, having the guys hold the signs as the

575
00:26:24,576 --> 00:26:27,856
Speaker 6: camera guys zooming in on the shot clock and we're

576
00:26:27,856 --> 00:26:31,495
Speaker 6: going through a two minute operation. And what's great is

577
00:26:31,735 --> 00:26:35,656
Speaker 6: there was a day and well at practice after practice,

578
00:26:35,856 --> 00:26:38,735
Speaker 6: we're watching film and I'm like nine years into the league,

579
00:26:38,776 --> 00:26:40,256
Speaker 6: and I'm like, wait a minute.

580
00:26:40,856 --> 00:26:42,136
Speaker 5: During training camp.

581
00:26:41,936 --> 00:26:45,575
Speaker 6: It's the only time that they allow civilians to be

582
00:26:45,696 --> 00:26:49,376
Speaker 6: in our world. And they zoom in on the shot clock,

583
00:26:49,455 --> 00:26:52,696
Speaker 6: and a whole bunch of the spectators that come watch

584
00:26:52,776 --> 00:26:55,936
Speaker 6: us like killing ourselves and getting dog cussed by the

585
00:26:55,975 --> 00:26:59,056
Speaker 6: coaches and sweating in a one hundred degree heat. They're

586
00:26:59,096 --> 00:27:01,936
Speaker 6: all hanging out underneath this shot clock and we can

587
00:27:01,975 --> 00:27:04,136
Speaker 6: see them, so we'd always be looking for somebody weird.

588
00:27:04,136 --> 00:27:05,896
Speaker 6: And I'm like, I could have I have any one

589
00:27:05,896 --> 00:27:09,056
Speaker 6: of my friends do whatever I want, and we have

590
00:27:09,176 --> 00:27:09,856
Speaker 6: to watch it.

591
00:27:10,176 --> 00:27:12,176
Speaker 5: This is gonna be the greatest day of my life.

592
00:27:12,376 --> 00:27:14,376
Speaker 6: This will be the only time that I actually stay

593
00:27:14,416 --> 00:27:18,335
Speaker 6: awake in meetings. So I had a guy come and

594
00:27:18,376 --> 00:27:21,455
Speaker 6: he had giant signs that said, like when Drowd.

595
00:27:21,215 --> 00:27:23,376
Speaker 5: Mayo was playing, right like I love Mayo on.

596
00:27:23,416 --> 00:27:26,856
Speaker 6: My buns, or Tommy gives me in the spot, I'm

597
00:27:26,975 --> 00:27:30,336
Speaker 6: open you know, like just crazy ridiculous stuff.

598
00:27:30,336 --> 00:27:34,176
Speaker 5: And he's wearing Daisy Dukes. Like I said, get your

599
00:27:34,176 --> 00:27:34,735
Speaker 5: worst pair of.

600
00:27:34,776 --> 00:27:37,815
Speaker 6: Jeans, cut him off, you know about nut height, and

601
00:27:37,896 --> 00:27:40,616
Speaker 6: start doing high kicks and tie your shirt and a knot.

602
00:27:40,856 --> 00:27:42,455
Speaker 5: And he did it to perfection.

603
00:27:42,656 --> 00:27:47,656
Speaker 6: And I'll never forget Matt Patricia calling me and he's dying,

604
00:27:47,656 --> 00:27:50,736
Speaker 6: and he's like, you're an idiot. He's like Coach Belichick

605
00:27:51,056 --> 00:27:54,736
Speaker 6: is not even acknowledging it. And we're all dying watching

606
00:27:54,776 --> 00:27:55,416
Speaker 6: this film.

607
00:27:55,856 --> 00:27:57,055
Speaker 5: I love you click.

608
00:27:58,616 --> 00:27:59,256
Speaker 3: That's awesome.

609
00:27:59,656 --> 00:28:02,216
Speaker 1: When you were in high school, did you play tackle

610
00:28:02,616 --> 00:28:05,296
Speaker 1: or did you play all over offense and defense?

611
00:28:05,896 --> 00:28:06,455
Speaker 5: You know, I.

612
00:28:07,975 --> 00:28:10,896
Speaker 6: Was always I was always a bigger kid, right Like

613
00:28:11,176 --> 00:28:12,735
Speaker 6: I had to go to the high school to get.

614
00:28:12,616 --> 00:28:13,495
Speaker 5: My helmet, you know.

615
00:28:13,536 --> 00:28:16,616
Speaker 6: When I was in like pee wee football, I was

616
00:28:16,656 --> 00:28:19,936
Speaker 6: always on the line. But I think I think for me,

617
00:28:20,336 --> 00:28:22,176
Speaker 6: I mean, we didn't win many games in high school.

618
00:28:22,176 --> 00:28:23,975
Speaker 6: I came from a very small school and.

619
00:28:24,416 --> 00:28:25,296
Speaker 5: We weren't that great.

620
00:28:25,416 --> 00:28:28,975
Speaker 6: But I was always like an outside linebacker, and I

621
00:28:29,056 --> 00:28:31,295
Speaker 6: guess I was more recognized on the defensive side of

622
00:28:31,336 --> 00:28:33,296
Speaker 6: the ball than the offensive side.

623
00:28:33,096 --> 00:28:33,336
Speaker 5: Of the ball.

624
00:28:33,376 --> 00:28:35,616
Speaker 6: But I was always on the line, and for whatever reason,

625
00:28:35,696 --> 00:28:37,255
Speaker 6: Perdue drafted or drafted me.

626
00:28:37,256 --> 00:28:38,575
Speaker 5: They Perdue brought me in.

627
00:28:38,576 --> 00:28:40,696
Speaker 6: They wanted me to play tight end until they figured

628
00:28:40,696 --> 00:28:43,816
Speaker 6: out that I'm not a great athlete, so they they

629
00:28:43,896 --> 00:28:46,416
Speaker 6: moved me to the UH to left tackle.

630
00:28:47,736 --> 00:28:50,896
Speaker 3: Matt, you had some great battles with people over the years.

631
00:28:51,016 --> 00:28:53,696
Speaker 3: Who's some of the guys that you went up against?

632
00:28:53,776 --> 00:28:56,896
Speaker 3: Because when you play left tackle, you always saw the best.

633
00:28:57,136 --> 00:28:59,656
Speaker 3: Who were I know that there are stories out there,

634
00:28:59,656 --> 00:29:01,936
Speaker 3: and you've expressed this to me that you used to

635
00:29:01,936 --> 00:29:05,096
Speaker 3: have nightmares against certain people. But who's the guy that

636
00:29:05,096 --> 00:29:07,376
Speaker 3: you across and go, I better bring my a game

637
00:29:07,496 --> 00:29:09,056
Speaker 3: or this is not going to go well.

638
00:29:09,096 --> 00:29:13,056
Speaker 6: You know, I think, I mean, ultimately, and I don't know,

639
00:29:13,096 --> 00:29:15,136
Speaker 6: I think this guy should pay me at some point

640
00:29:15,176 --> 00:29:17,776
Speaker 6: for saying all these nice things, because I.

641
00:29:17,656 --> 00:29:18,136
Speaker 5: Feel like.

642
00:29:19,576 --> 00:29:24,456
Speaker 6: I feel like I I could probably describe him as

643
00:29:24,496 --> 00:29:27,256
Speaker 6: a player as good as anyone, given the number of

644
00:29:27,296 --> 00:29:29,496
Speaker 6: times that I had to face him and the number

645
00:29:29,496 --> 00:29:31,336
Speaker 6: of times that I had to sit there in the

646
00:29:31,416 --> 00:29:35,216
Speaker 6: week leading up to that matchup and tell myself, like,

647
00:29:35,376 --> 00:29:37,696
Speaker 6: just survive one more, Just survive one more.

648
00:29:37,776 --> 00:29:39,136
Speaker 5: This guy is so freaking good.

649
00:29:39,176 --> 00:29:43,336
Speaker 6: But you know, Dwight Freeney and what he was able

650
00:29:43,376 --> 00:29:46,536
Speaker 6: to do in Indianapolis for a very long time, and

651
00:29:46,576 --> 00:29:49,576
Speaker 6: he had a good counterpart in mathis you know, those

652
00:29:49,616 --> 00:29:51,536
Speaker 6: two were a heck of a one to two combination

653
00:29:52,296 --> 00:29:56,176
Speaker 6: coming off the edge. But Dwight Freeny, I think played

654
00:29:56,176 --> 00:29:59,296
Speaker 6: the game at such a unique level, and I would

655
00:29:59,296 --> 00:30:01,776
Speaker 6: I would go as far as to say this, if

656
00:30:01,816 --> 00:30:04,896
Speaker 6: you're a defensive end in the National Football League and

657
00:30:04,976 --> 00:30:09,856
Speaker 6: if you have one move that you can consistently win with,

658
00:30:10,336 --> 00:30:14,256
Speaker 6: and consistently is a relative term, right. It doesn't mean like,

659
00:30:14,656 --> 00:30:17,376
Speaker 6: you know, two out of every five you beat the guy,

660
00:30:17,456 --> 00:30:20,096
Speaker 6: But I mean like when you watch film and you

661
00:30:20,176 --> 00:30:24,896
Speaker 6: see him pull that move and he wins a time

662
00:30:25,016 --> 00:30:28,056
Speaker 6: or two with it, that's consistently winning, right, Because if

663
00:30:28,056 --> 00:30:31,336
Speaker 6: they're gonna set you up for it, and good defensive ends,

664
00:30:31,536 --> 00:30:34,576
Speaker 6: it's a chess match, right, I mean, because they're both

665
00:30:34,576 --> 00:30:37,296
Speaker 6: getting paid, both guys, the left tackle and the defensive end.

666
00:30:37,336 --> 00:30:40,176
Speaker 6: And so when you look at Dwight Freeney and you

667
00:30:40,216 --> 00:30:42,416
Speaker 6: go with that mindset and you say, Okay, look at

668
00:30:42,416 --> 00:30:45,136
Speaker 6: the perennial Pro Bowlers, look at the Hall of Fame

669
00:30:45,296 --> 00:30:48,136
Speaker 6: defensive ends or edge rushers, and what do they have

670
00:30:48,256 --> 00:30:51,496
Speaker 6: in common? Well, they have one move that they consistently

671
00:30:51,536 --> 00:30:53,736
Speaker 6: win with and that can get you into the Hall

672
00:30:53,776 --> 00:30:56,896
Speaker 6: of Fame. What I would say about Dwight Freenye is

673
00:30:56,896 --> 00:31:00,855
Speaker 6: is he had three of those moves, and that's really unique.

674
00:31:00,936 --> 00:31:04,056
Speaker 6: He had a spin move that was second to none.

675
00:31:04,336 --> 00:31:06,656
Speaker 6: He had a dip in and he could skin the

676
00:31:06,776 --> 00:31:08,976
Speaker 6: edge as good as it gets right. And a speed

677
00:31:09,016 --> 00:31:11,776
Speaker 6: the power sorry, so speed the power, dip and rip

678
00:31:11,896 --> 00:31:16,136
Speaker 6: and his spin move. Any one of those could make

679
00:31:16,176 --> 00:31:19,496
Speaker 6: you look really bad at any given moment. But I

680
00:31:19,496 --> 00:31:21,776
Speaker 6: would also say this, you know, especially early in my

681
00:31:21,856 --> 00:31:25,136
Speaker 6: career in the AFC East, I had Aaron shobl twice

682
00:31:25,176 --> 00:31:28,576
Speaker 6: a year. There's a perennial pro bowler, you know. For Buffalo,

683
00:31:28,976 --> 00:31:32,056
Speaker 6: I had John Abraham with the Jets, you know, who

684
00:31:32,096 --> 00:31:34,575
Speaker 6: was a phenomenal player. You know, had a little bit

685
00:31:34,616 --> 00:31:36,736
Speaker 6: of a finesse game to him, but you know, could

686
00:31:36,736 --> 00:31:38,976
Speaker 6: bring it when he wanted to. And then of course

687
00:31:39,656 --> 00:31:43,656
Speaker 6: Jason Taylor, who was an absolute terror down in Miami

688
00:31:43,816 --> 00:31:48,056
Speaker 6: for many many years. So you know, I got I

689
00:31:48,096 --> 00:31:50,056
Speaker 6: got an education every time I went up.

690
00:31:50,016 --> 00:31:50,976
Speaker 5: Against those guys.

691
00:31:51,296 --> 00:31:53,776
Speaker 1: If someone did get by you, was there something you

692
00:31:53,896 --> 00:31:57,056
Speaker 1: yelled watch out? Yeah, like what do you yell whenever

693
00:31:57,096 --> 00:31:57,696
Speaker 1: it's like, uh.

694
00:31:57,616 --> 00:32:00,576
Speaker 6: Oh, Bobby, you don't I don't have to yell anything.

695
00:32:00,656 --> 00:32:05,336
Speaker 6: But I promise you Tommy was yelling something, either audibly

696
00:32:06,176 --> 00:32:09,936
Speaker 6: or in his mind at some point. Because as we

697
00:32:10,016 --> 00:32:13,136
Speaker 6: all know, or maybe the world doesn't, I mean, Tommy's

698
00:32:13,136 --> 00:32:14,656
Speaker 6: not going to run out of site in a week.

699
00:32:14,736 --> 00:32:16,856
Speaker 6: I mean he's not the most fleet of foot. You know,

700
00:32:16,896 --> 00:32:20,856
Speaker 6: we're not talking about Tommy Vick. We're talking about Tom Brady.

701
00:32:21,616 --> 00:32:25,176
Speaker 6: And even saying that, right, the guy made us look

702
00:32:25,456 --> 00:32:27,256
Speaker 6: really good. I don't know how he did it. I

703
00:32:27,296 --> 00:32:29,416
Speaker 6: don't know how he knew the pressure was coming. He

704
00:32:29,456 --> 00:32:31,096
Speaker 6: had eyes in the back of his head, as my

705
00:32:31,136 --> 00:32:34,776
Speaker 6: offensive line coach said, But yeah, I mean when you

706
00:32:34,816 --> 00:32:38,776
Speaker 6: make a mistake at any of those positions up front,

707
00:32:38,856 --> 00:32:41,536
Speaker 6: I mean, your quarterback's gonna let you know about it

708
00:32:41,576 --> 00:32:42,376
Speaker 6: at some point.

709
00:32:42,656 --> 00:32:45,336
Speaker 1: But do you yell if he doesn't see and he

710
00:32:45,376 --> 00:32:47,256
Speaker 1: did slip by you? Is do you is there any

711
00:32:47,336 --> 00:32:49,776
Speaker 1: like incoming? There was nothing right, it was just it

712
00:32:49,816 --> 00:32:50,936
Speaker 1: was so quick it wouldn't matter.

713
00:32:51,256 --> 00:32:53,616
Speaker 6: No listen, I mean when I'm running around, it's like

714
00:32:53,656 --> 00:32:57,016
Speaker 6: a flabblanche. Right, I'm having a hard time just breathing. Okay,

715
00:32:57,096 --> 00:32:59,696
Speaker 6: So like, I'm not yelling anything. That's why I didn't

716
00:32:59,736 --> 00:33:01,696
Speaker 6: talk trash. I would have liked to have talked a

717
00:33:01,696 --> 00:33:04,616
Speaker 6: little trash, but I was breathing to I was sucking wind.

718
00:33:04,456 --> 00:33:05,296
Speaker 5: Though entire day.

719
00:33:05,456 --> 00:33:23,335
Speaker 3: That's fair, that's fair. Now, you played for one of

720
00:33:23,376 --> 00:33:27,096
Speaker 3: the best offensive line coaches, Dante scarnek In. But he

721
00:33:27,376 --> 00:33:30,815
Speaker 3: was a badass. I remember him getting after you in

722
00:33:30,856 --> 00:33:34,016
Speaker 3: the entire unit. Like, what was that relationship like? And

723
00:33:34,456 --> 00:33:36,456
Speaker 3: was he always like that in your meeting rooms too?

724
00:33:37,016 --> 00:33:41,736
Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, I mean I don't know that. I don't

725
00:33:41,776 --> 00:33:43,016
Speaker 5: know how many times.

726
00:33:42,696 --> 00:33:46,296
Speaker 6: There have been stories where you go too deep into

727
00:33:46,696 --> 00:33:49,056
Speaker 6: the assistant coaches and what that world's like.

728
00:33:49,176 --> 00:33:49,336
Speaker 5: Right.

729
00:33:49,656 --> 00:33:52,296
Speaker 6: We talk a lot about head coaches, we talk about

730
00:33:52,376 --> 00:33:57,056
Speaker 6: player personnel people, but you know, there's such a unique

731
00:33:57,096 --> 00:34:02,576
Speaker 6: mixture of humans who occupied the entire staff and their

732
00:34:02,616 --> 00:34:05,656
Speaker 6: personalities and what they bring to the table and really

733
00:34:05,696 --> 00:34:07,696
Speaker 6: how they coach, how they lead. Right, you think about

734
00:34:07,736 --> 00:34:11,216
Speaker 6: the people who have impacted your life and how they

735
00:34:11,256 --> 00:34:13,216
Speaker 6: did it and how they were able to motivate you.

736
00:34:13,296 --> 00:34:17,536
Speaker 6: And here's Dante Scarnekia. He's like five foot four, you know,

737
00:34:17,736 --> 00:34:21,616
Speaker 6: he weighs I don't know, one hundred pounds, soaking wet.

738
00:34:21,656 --> 00:34:23,896
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, he was always working out. He'd

739
00:34:23,896 --> 00:34:26,016
Speaker 6: be in a swim ax. He had more fur on

740
00:34:26,096 --> 00:34:28,936
Speaker 6: his body. You know, that probably weighed him down than

741
00:34:29,016 --> 00:34:34,336
Speaker 6: anything else. Harry Harry Man. But you know what he

742
00:34:34,416 --> 00:34:38,176
Speaker 6: did was he demanded that every single time that you

743
00:34:38,256 --> 00:34:40,576
Speaker 6: stepped in the meeting room, every single time that you

744
00:34:40,656 --> 00:34:43,296
Speaker 6: went out in the field, that you gave it everything

745
00:34:43,336 --> 00:34:45,576
Speaker 6: that you had. I mean, he demanded that out of you.

746
00:34:45,976 --> 00:34:49,696
Speaker 6: And what I really appreciated is that no one, no

747
00:34:49,776 --> 00:34:51,856
Speaker 6: one got to pass. It didn't matter if you were

748
00:34:52,136 --> 00:34:55,136
Speaker 6: the first round draft pick or the guy they brought

749
00:34:55,176 --> 00:34:58,096
Speaker 6: in off the street. He's gonna coach you up hard

750
00:34:58,216 --> 00:35:01,336
Speaker 6: from start to finish. And because of that, we were

751
00:35:01,376 --> 00:35:04,416
Speaker 6: a tight unit. But I'm gonna tell you it wasn't easy.

752
00:35:04,736 --> 00:35:06,776
Speaker 6: I mean, he would dog custs you, I remember. I

753
00:35:06,816 --> 00:35:09,336
Speaker 6: mean I made up an entire booklet of his sayings

754
00:35:09,376 --> 00:35:10,256
Speaker 6: like ass eyes.

755
00:35:10,336 --> 00:35:12,456
Speaker 5: I don't even know what that means. I've heard I've

756
00:35:12,456 --> 00:35:14,216
Speaker 5: heard people called that many times.

757
00:35:14,416 --> 00:35:17,936
Speaker 6: You're not worth hammrhage, you know, like he had some

758
00:35:18,016 --> 00:35:21,296
Speaker 6: of the greatest danteisms. A matter of fact, I made

759
00:35:21,336 --> 00:35:26,496
Speaker 6: up the Dante Scarnekia mother efin instructional video and we

760
00:35:26,656 --> 00:35:30,056
Speaker 6: played it during training camp as a like one of

761
00:35:30,096 --> 00:35:33,256
Speaker 6: those infomercials where you could learn how to you know,

762
00:35:33,816 --> 00:35:36,896
Speaker 6: dog cuss anyone you know to the best of your abilities.

763
00:35:37,496 --> 00:35:41,335
Speaker 1: A lot's being made now about arm length. You're seeing

764
00:35:41,376 --> 00:35:43,856
Speaker 1: it now with the draft. Uh do you know your

765
00:35:44,056 --> 00:35:47,536
Speaker 1: arm length? And was that a factor or did they

766
00:35:47,536 --> 00:35:49,776
Speaker 1: even measure you when you were going into the draft?

767
00:35:49,896 --> 00:35:53,096
Speaker 6: I remember this, This was the measurement like from your

768
00:35:53,176 --> 00:35:56,896
Speaker 6: your thumb to your your pinky, and for whatever reason,

769
00:35:57,096 --> 00:35:59,736
Speaker 6: back then that was a big deal. And now we've

770
00:36:00,216 --> 00:36:03,416
Speaker 6: we've we've elevated it to how long your arms are, right,

771
00:36:03,576 --> 00:36:07,096
Speaker 6: And I don't know, I find it. I find it interesting.

772
00:36:07,936 --> 00:36:10,296
Speaker 6: It's I guess maybe it's kind of like moneyball or

773
00:36:10,776 --> 00:36:12,856
Speaker 6: you know, all these different metrics and how they're trying

774
00:36:12,896 --> 00:36:16,056
Speaker 6: to evaluate people and come up with some other way

775
00:36:16,176 --> 00:36:17,536
Speaker 6: to sound fancy.

776
00:36:17,976 --> 00:36:19,496
Speaker 5: At the end of the day, I'd.

777
00:36:19,376 --> 00:36:22,616
Speaker 6: Rather know how you use your arms versus how long

778
00:36:22,696 --> 00:36:26,576
Speaker 6: they are, right. I think I think it'll probably die

779
00:36:26,616 --> 00:36:30,616
Speaker 6: out within this this calendar year and we won't hear

780
00:36:30,696 --> 00:36:32,776
Speaker 6: much about it anymore. But I think we should keep

781
00:36:32,776 --> 00:36:36,096
Speaker 6: an eye on the guys that have the longest arms.

782
00:36:36,136 --> 00:36:37,296
Speaker 5: And see how well they.

783
00:36:37,176 --> 00:36:38,536
Speaker 1: Do in the NFL.

784
00:36:39,136 --> 00:36:41,656
Speaker 3: That's exactly right, all right. What's the vibe like back

785
00:36:41,736 --> 00:36:44,096
Speaker 3: there in New England? I know you're there in New England.

786
00:36:44,896 --> 00:36:47,616
Speaker 3: You got a new sheriff in town, our old teammate,

787
00:36:47,696 --> 00:36:51,216
Speaker 3: Pop of Rabes. Have you had any interaction with him

788
00:36:51,256 --> 00:36:53,216
Speaker 3: since he's been there? And what what's the vibe like?

789
00:36:53,536 --> 00:36:53,696
Speaker 5: Man?

790
00:36:53,776 --> 00:36:55,936
Speaker 6: I can tell you that it's I think everybody's on

791
00:36:56,016 --> 00:36:56,976
Speaker 6: pins and needles, right.

792
00:36:57,056 --> 00:36:59,696
Speaker 5: I mean, we come off of what's what?

793
00:36:59,856 --> 00:37:02,136
Speaker 6: What was a crazy season, you know there for a

794
00:37:02,136 --> 00:37:05,016
Speaker 6: lot of reasons, and and now we have a guy

795
00:37:05,096 --> 00:37:07,896
Speaker 6: that people they know who he is as a player,

796
00:37:08,256 --> 00:37:11,256
Speaker 6: They they understand that, you know, you know he did

797
00:37:11,376 --> 00:37:15,096
Speaker 6: he did some amazing things down to Tennessee and there.

798
00:37:15,456 --> 00:37:19,496
Speaker 6: I think everybody's really optimistic about the impact that he's

799
00:37:19,536 --> 00:37:20,936
Speaker 6: going to have on this organization.

800
00:37:21,456 --> 00:37:22,976
Speaker 5: And I have I've been able to go back and

801
00:37:23,056 --> 00:37:27,416
Speaker 5: forth with Mike a bit man. What a job he

802
00:37:27,496 --> 00:37:28,496
Speaker 5: has ahead of him.

803
00:37:28,936 --> 00:37:32,016
Speaker 6: And you know, I think if there's anyone, if if

804
00:37:32,136 --> 00:37:35,176
Speaker 6: if somebody were to say to me, you know, right

805
00:37:35,456 --> 00:37:37,736
Speaker 6: right when the last season ended, who's the one person

806
00:37:37,776 --> 00:37:39,776
Speaker 6: you would bring in here? I would have said, Mike

807
00:37:39,816 --> 00:37:45,456
Speaker 6: Brabel and the reason, as you know Matt, he's uniquely

808
00:37:45,576 --> 00:37:50,696
Speaker 6: qualified to deal with pressure. And I've said this about

809
00:37:50,776 --> 00:37:54,776
Speaker 6: Mike forever. I said, Mike Grabel is the last person

810
00:37:54,816 --> 00:37:56,856
Speaker 6: in the world that you would ever want to get

811
00:37:56,896 --> 00:38:00,096
Speaker 6: into a war of words with because he'll eat you alive.

812
00:38:00,576 --> 00:38:03,896
Speaker 6: Like there's that he lives for the moment to prove

813
00:38:03,976 --> 00:38:05,976
Speaker 6: you wrong. I mean, think about what that guy did

814
00:38:06,016 --> 00:38:09,256
Speaker 6: as a player, right, goes to Pittsburgh, gets sat on

815
00:38:09,296 --> 00:38:13,296
Speaker 6: a bench they're not utilizing him, works his tail off,

816
00:38:13,736 --> 00:38:17,376
Speaker 6: you know, does everything he can do. Belichick brings him

817
00:38:17,416 --> 00:38:21,616
Speaker 6: in and he becomes an instant, you know, just leader

818
00:38:21,616 --> 00:38:24,896
Speaker 6: in the locker room, a voice of reason, you know,

819
00:38:25,936 --> 00:38:28,616
Speaker 6: a guy that we all leaned on and had this

820
00:38:28,736 --> 00:38:29,696
Speaker 6: amazing career.

821
00:38:29,736 --> 00:38:31,896
Speaker 5: So he's fought his way everywhere he's been.

822
00:38:32,536 --> 00:38:34,696
Speaker 6: And I mean I played against him at Ohio State

823
00:38:35,136 --> 00:38:37,896
Speaker 6: in college, right, and I didn't like playing against him then,

824
00:38:37,936 --> 00:38:40,256
Speaker 6: and I wouldn't want to coach against him now. And

825
00:38:40,536 --> 00:38:43,456
Speaker 6: I say this, I'll leave you with on this Rabel topic.

826
00:38:43,936 --> 00:38:47,136
Speaker 6: One of my favorite Mike Brabel moments. We're doing a

827
00:38:47,176 --> 00:38:51,296
Speaker 6: fundraiser for my foundation in my hometown in about two

828
00:38:51,336 --> 00:38:55,096
Speaker 6: thousand and four, Mike Rabel comes and it's a stag night.

829
00:38:55,176 --> 00:38:57,056
Speaker 6: It's a whole bunch of guys. We're getting together, we're

830
00:38:57,096 --> 00:39:00,536
Speaker 6: having a good time raising money for the foundation. The

831
00:39:00,576 --> 00:39:03,616
Speaker 6: mayor of my hometown gets up to read a proclamation,

832
00:39:04,376 --> 00:39:05,936
Speaker 6: and if I would have known him going to do this,

833
00:39:06,016 --> 00:39:07,736
Speaker 6: I would have said, no way, you can't do this.

834
00:39:08,376 --> 00:39:11,976
Speaker 6: And so he gets up and he's reading, basically saying,

835
00:39:12,016 --> 00:39:15,536
Speaker 6: we're going to declare such and such day matt Light Day, right,

836
00:39:15,656 --> 00:39:19,136
Speaker 6: and he gets to the word matriculate and he stumbles

837
00:39:19,176 --> 00:39:23,536
Speaker 6: over it horribly and obviously he didn't write this proclamation.

838
00:39:24,336 --> 00:39:26,496
Speaker 6: Fast forward an hour and a half later, we're trying

839
00:39:26,496 --> 00:39:29,336
Speaker 6: to raise money through an auction and it's kind of

840
00:39:29,456 --> 00:39:32,856
Speaker 6: stalling on one of our big items. Rabes grabs the

841
00:39:32,976 --> 00:39:36,336
Speaker 6: mic and he goes, hey, listen, we're here to raise money.

842
00:39:36,336 --> 00:39:38,815
Speaker 6: He goes, I'll give anybody one thousand dollars right now.

843
00:39:38,936 --> 00:39:41,656
Speaker 6: They can get the mayor of Greenville to spell matriculate.

844
00:39:44,696 --> 00:39:47,616
Speaker 6: It was unbelievable. That's Mike Brabel.

845
00:39:49,256 --> 00:39:52,856
Speaker 3: He is unique in that sense that he's an intimidating figure.

846
00:39:52,896 --> 00:39:55,216
Speaker 3: But like you said, if you get into war words

847
00:39:55,216 --> 00:39:57,256
Speaker 3: with him, he's going to go right for your jugular

848
00:39:57,576 --> 00:40:00,656
Speaker 3: and make you uncomfortable and hurt your feelings. That's just

849
00:40:00,816 --> 00:40:03,296
Speaker 3: who he is, so he'll handle the pressure of New

850
00:40:03,296 --> 00:40:04,296
Speaker 3: England without a doubt.

851
00:40:04,736 --> 00:40:06,656
Speaker 1: Two final questions for you, Matt, and I want you

852
00:40:06,696 --> 00:40:08,456
Speaker 1: about the light Foundation in just a second, because that's

853
00:40:08,496 --> 00:40:10,496
Speaker 1: what Castle was talking about when he was talking about shooting.

854
00:40:10,536 --> 00:40:12,456
Speaker 1: He really was talking about like the good that you do.

855
00:40:13,016 --> 00:40:15,456
Speaker 1: But before I get to that, how did you know

856
00:40:15,456 --> 00:40:16,496
Speaker 1: when it was time to hang it up?

857
00:40:16,896 --> 00:40:17,136
Speaker 5: Man?

858
00:40:18,696 --> 00:40:22,096
Speaker 6: It's interesting. I think I think we all come about it,

859
00:40:22,136 --> 00:40:23,936
Speaker 6: you know, former players. I've talked to some of these

860
00:40:23,936 --> 00:40:26,416
Speaker 6: guys that I played with and guys that I've met

861
00:40:26,896 --> 00:40:30,256
Speaker 6: in retirement and we've kind of mulled this over, and

862
00:40:31,256 --> 00:40:31,896
Speaker 6: it's interesting.

863
00:40:31,896 --> 00:40:35,296
Speaker 5: I mean, there's guys that are lifers right that it's.

864
00:40:35,136 --> 00:40:38,216
Speaker 6: Really difficult to step away from the game, and it

865
00:40:38,216 --> 00:40:41,336
Speaker 6: doesn't matter if they're injured or they're feeling great, they

866
00:40:41,376 --> 00:40:44,056
Speaker 6: just they always want to play the game. And then

867
00:40:44,096 --> 00:40:46,856
Speaker 6: there's guys like myself. You know, I had a lot

868
00:40:46,896 --> 00:40:49,335
Speaker 6: of interest outside of it. I think again a part

869
00:40:49,336 --> 00:40:51,176
Speaker 6: of it was the way I grew up and just

870
00:40:52,456 --> 00:40:56,816
Speaker 6: being naive I guess to what the world, the NFL

871
00:40:56,896 --> 00:41:00,536
Speaker 6: world was really like. And so I can tell you

872
00:41:00,576 --> 00:41:04,696
Speaker 6: that after my tenth season, I said, Okay, I'm going

873
00:41:04,776 --> 00:41:06,856
Speaker 6: to do one more and.

874
00:41:08,776 --> 00:41:10,336
Speaker 5: I'm going to have as much fun.

875
00:41:10,136 --> 00:41:14,296
Speaker 6: As I can possibly have from start to finish.

876
00:41:13,536 --> 00:41:17,296
Speaker 5: And I did, and we went to the Super Bowl.

877
00:41:17,296 --> 00:41:18,296
Speaker 5: We didn't win it.

878
00:41:18,296 --> 00:41:21,736
Speaker 6: It was the fifth trip there in eleven years, and

879
00:41:22,296 --> 00:41:25,496
Speaker 6: I just remember feeling, I mean, like, how blessed am I?

880
00:41:25,576 --> 00:41:28,336
Speaker 6: How grateful you know, should I be for all the

881
00:41:28,376 --> 00:41:30,696
Speaker 6: people that you know work their butt off to put

882
00:41:30,736 --> 00:41:33,136
Speaker 6: me in a position to do the things that I've

883
00:41:33,136 --> 00:41:34,936
Speaker 6: been able to do, and how great? And I was

884
00:41:34,976 --> 00:41:38,136
Speaker 6: honestly the healthiest season I had in my entire career

885
00:41:38,176 --> 00:41:41,936
Speaker 6: I had. You know, I had thirteen major surgeries throughout

886
00:41:41,976 --> 00:41:46,696
Speaker 6: my playing career, and you know, that was the healthiest

887
00:41:46,696 --> 00:41:48,576
Speaker 6: I was. I was able to walk away from the game.

888
00:41:48,936 --> 00:41:51,656
Speaker 6: And for me, it really came down to, man, I

889
00:41:51,696 --> 00:41:53,616
Speaker 6: got kids that are closer to being out of my

890
00:41:53,656 --> 00:41:56,256
Speaker 6: home than in my home, and that was kind of

891
00:41:56,256 --> 00:41:58,856
Speaker 6: the final thing that made it easy for me to say, Okay,

892
00:41:59,096 --> 00:42:02,576
Speaker 6: last season, let's have some fun and go out on top.

893
00:42:02,656 --> 00:42:05,816
Speaker 1: I guess the Light Foundation talk about that, because I

894
00:42:05,856 --> 00:42:08,696
Speaker 1: know that's something that you've made a priority on something

895
00:42:08,736 --> 00:42:11,256
Speaker 1: even Castle's bragged about. But tell me why you started

896
00:42:11,296 --> 00:42:13,256
Speaker 1: it and what exactly you guys are doing.

897
00:42:13,616 --> 00:42:16,896
Speaker 6: Yeah, so we officially formed the Life Foundation of two

898
00:42:16,936 --> 00:42:19,656
Speaker 6: thousand and two. Two thousand and one was my rookie season,

899
00:42:20,936 --> 00:42:23,616
Speaker 6: as Dante Scarnekia and my line coach would say, light,

900
00:42:24,216 --> 00:42:26,576
Speaker 6: you don't know if the ball's pumped or stuffed, and

901
00:42:26,616 --> 00:42:28,816
Speaker 6: I didn't, and then we go on to.

902
00:42:28,776 --> 00:42:29,576
Speaker 5: Win a Super Bowl.

903
00:42:29,656 --> 00:42:34,016
Speaker 6: And my grandmother was someone who you know, when everybody

904
00:42:34,016 --> 00:42:35,736
Speaker 6: else kind of wanted to get rid of me and

905
00:42:35,856 --> 00:42:37,936
Speaker 6: my family, she was like, I may be the only

906
00:42:37,976 --> 00:42:40,016
Speaker 6: one loves you, but I love you. And you know,

907
00:42:40,256 --> 00:42:42,816
Speaker 6: remember to who much is given, much is required. And

908
00:42:44,096 --> 00:42:46,616
Speaker 6: those words were ringing in my head, and I just

909
00:42:46,616 --> 00:42:49,176
Speaker 6: said to my family, I said, hey, look and I

910
00:42:49,176 --> 00:42:51,456
Speaker 6: come from a family of educators. My mom taught music

911
00:42:51,496 --> 00:42:55,176
Speaker 6: in a local school system for thirty five years. My

912
00:42:55,296 --> 00:42:59,336
Speaker 6: dad is just an amazing human and can teach anything

913
00:42:59,416 --> 00:43:00,096
Speaker 6: and everything.

914
00:43:00,176 --> 00:43:03,136
Speaker 5: And I said, if you guys will join alongside of me,

915
00:43:03,496 --> 00:43:03,896
Speaker 5: I want to.

916
00:43:03,936 --> 00:43:06,136
Speaker 6: I want to create a nonprofit we can work with

917
00:43:06,256 --> 00:43:10,296
Speaker 6: kids and teach them and the things that made me

918
00:43:10,376 --> 00:43:13,056
Speaker 6: a better person, even though I tried screwing that up

919
00:43:13,096 --> 00:43:15,776
Speaker 6: as much as possible and introduced them to the people

920
00:43:16,256 --> 00:43:18,976
Speaker 6: who just blew my mind growing up and inspired me.

921
00:43:19,096 --> 00:43:21,976
Speaker 6: And so we started that journey in two thousand and two,

922
00:43:22,856 --> 00:43:26,456
Speaker 6: and we do it all through the Light Foundations Leadership Academy,

923
00:43:26,816 --> 00:43:29,456
Speaker 6: where we host, you know, kids from all over the country.

924
00:43:29,776 --> 00:43:32,936
Speaker 6: We serve about seventy five hundred kids annually. It's outdoor

925
00:43:32,976 --> 00:43:35,576
Speaker 6: based programming, but it all falls under the idea that

926
00:43:35,936 --> 00:43:39,976
Speaker 6: we need strong leaders and strong people that can make

927
00:43:40,016 --> 00:43:43,616
Speaker 6: great decisions and inspire the people around them. And we've

928
00:43:43,616 --> 00:43:45,456
Speaker 6: been doing that for a long time, Bobby, And I'll

929
00:43:45,456 --> 00:43:47,616
Speaker 6: tell you, man, the people I've met through that world,

930
00:43:48,096 --> 00:43:50,576
Speaker 6: you know, and the people we continue to meet, and

931
00:43:50,616 --> 00:43:53,496
Speaker 6: the relationships that we form, whether it's a timber framing

932
00:43:53,536 --> 00:43:58,416
Speaker 6: camp for kids, or a football camp or a leadership camp. Man,

933
00:43:58,456 --> 00:43:59,736
Speaker 6: it's the best memories I've got.

934
00:44:00,056 --> 00:44:02,176
Speaker 1: Matt Light seventy two dot com will also put it

935
00:44:02,176 --> 00:44:04,216
Speaker 1: in the notes here for the Light Foundation if you

936
00:44:04,256 --> 00:44:05,176
Speaker 1: guys want more information.

937
00:44:05,536 --> 00:44:08,056
Speaker 3: Yeah, Mattie, you're the best man, and you're not only

938
00:44:08,496 --> 00:44:10,696
Speaker 3: best teammate I've ever been around, but the impact that

939
00:44:10,696 --> 00:44:13,976
Speaker 3: you're making outside is probably more rewarding than anything else.

940
00:44:14,256 --> 00:44:17,496
Speaker 6: Hey, brother, I love you and what you're doing, and

941
00:44:18,056 --> 00:44:22,176
Speaker 6: obviously we had some of the best memories. I think

942
00:44:22,216 --> 00:44:24,896
Speaker 6: I think it was an era in the NFL that

943
00:44:25,856 --> 00:44:27,576
Speaker 6: I'm not sure we'll ever get back to. Right with

944
00:44:27,696 --> 00:44:30,176
Speaker 6: social media and everybody want to do their own thing.

945
00:44:30,976 --> 00:44:33,256
Speaker 6: I would just encourage people to remember this. If you're

946
00:44:33,296 --> 00:44:37,376
Speaker 6: a football player, remember to take the time to do

947
00:44:37,456 --> 00:44:39,696
Speaker 6: things with the people to the right and the left

948
00:44:39,696 --> 00:44:42,016
Speaker 6: of you. When you're sitting in that locker room, you know,

949
00:44:42,456 --> 00:44:45,456
Speaker 6: put the cell phone down and make memories. But those

950
00:44:45,456 --> 00:44:48,056
Speaker 6: guys off the field the same way you do on

951
00:44:48,136 --> 00:44:51,296
Speaker 6: the field, and man, you'll never regret it because, as

952
00:44:51,336 --> 00:44:54,136
Speaker 6: you know, man, we experienced a lot of those moments

953
00:44:54,136 --> 00:44:56,496
Speaker 6: and they were special, no doubt about it.

954
00:44:56,576 --> 00:44:58,815
Speaker 1: Matt. We appreciate you, buddy. Thank you for your time.

955
00:44:59,136 --> 00:45:00,136
Speaker 3: Matt. Thank you brother.

956
00:45:00,536 --> 00:45:02,296
Speaker 5: Yeah, buddy, love you you.

957
00:45:17,776 --> 00:45:19,136
Speaker 1: All right. Kevin's got our game this week.

958
00:45:19,176 --> 00:45:20,856
Speaker 4: Kevin, what do you have going back to the two

959
00:45:20,856 --> 00:45:23,296
Speaker 4: thousand and five draft? Here, I want you to name

960
00:45:23,376 --> 00:45:26,016
Speaker 4: where this player, notable player went to college.

961
00:45:26,416 --> 00:45:29,936
Speaker 1: Boom, I'm not good at these. Okay, so notable players

962
00:45:30,256 --> 00:45:31,376
Speaker 1: go Castle first.

963
00:45:31,776 --> 00:45:34,376
Speaker 4: Okay, Matt, are you ready? We're gonna do five again

964
00:45:34,376 --> 00:45:35,096
Speaker 4: like we did last week.

965
00:45:35,136 --> 00:45:36,016
Speaker 3: Okay, let's rock and roll.

966
00:45:36,056 --> 00:45:37,736
Speaker 4: Okay, so we'll go through all five with Matt first.

967
00:45:37,776 --> 00:45:41,056
Speaker 4: Here running back Frank Gore.

968
00:45:42,256 --> 00:45:44,256
Speaker 3: Oh, Frank Gore? Where did Frank Gore go?

969
00:45:44,616 --> 00:45:45,336
Speaker 1: Can we steal?

970
00:45:45,376 --> 00:45:45,456
Speaker 4: Like?

971
00:45:45,496 --> 00:45:46,736
Speaker 1: If I don't know it and he knows it, can

972
00:45:46,736 --> 00:45:47,376
Speaker 1: he steal my point?

973
00:45:47,656 --> 00:45:48,736
Speaker 3: Miami? Oh?

974
00:45:48,816 --> 00:45:51,576
Speaker 4: We got it all right for one there, Matt.

975
00:45:51,936 --> 00:45:52,776
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm an idiot.

976
00:45:54,096 --> 00:45:54,576
Speaker 3: Can I steal?

977
00:45:54,616 --> 00:45:54,855
Speaker 1: Please?

978
00:45:54,856 --> 00:45:55,936
Speaker 5: Please? Okay?

979
00:45:56,896 --> 00:45:58,456
Speaker 4: Linebacker the Marcus?

980
00:45:58,496 --> 00:46:04,936
Speaker 3: Where the Marcus? Where he wasn't? I kind of want

981
00:46:04,936 --> 00:46:06,096
Speaker 3: to say cam State, but.

982
00:46:06,256 --> 00:46:08,536
Speaker 1: I hope you say Kansas State. I think I'm completely

983
00:46:08,536 --> 00:46:09,976
Speaker 1: I'm begging you to say Kansas State.

984
00:46:10,776 --> 00:46:13,136
Speaker 3: I think that you're thinking these Arkansas because you get

985
00:46:13,136 --> 00:46:13,936
Speaker 3: a glow to you.

986
00:46:13,936 --> 00:46:15,456
Speaker 1: No, I don't have a glow to me. I just

987
00:46:15,496 --> 00:46:16,416
Speaker 1: know it because I know him.

988
00:46:16,536 --> 00:46:17,976
Speaker 3: Okay, you can steal this one. Then?

989
00:46:18,096 --> 00:46:20,056
Speaker 1: I know him because we did Dancing with the Stars together,

990
00:46:20,136 --> 00:46:22,256
Speaker 1: and my final dance he left me above his head

991
00:46:22,296 --> 00:46:24,056
Speaker 1: like I was sack of potatoes. And he went to

992
00:46:24,136 --> 00:46:27,416
Speaker 1: Troy and he grew like six inches while in college

993
00:46:27,616 --> 00:46:29,496
Speaker 1: ding ding ding, No crazy story.

994
00:46:30,296 --> 00:46:33,096
Speaker 3: Six inches. Yeah, he was a monster.

995
00:46:32,856 --> 00:46:34,536
Speaker 1: But it was like Scotty Pippen at U C a

996
00:46:34,896 --> 00:46:36,536
Speaker 1: when he before he went to the bowls, Scottie Pippen

997
00:46:36,576 --> 00:46:40,376
Speaker 1: grew an ignordinate amount like six seven inches in college. Yeah,

998
00:46:40,416 --> 00:46:43,976
Speaker 1: I didn't, but anyway, that's a big grocer.

999
00:46:44,456 --> 00:46:46,416
Speaker 4: All right, Matt, here we go, number three, tight end

1000
00:46:46,456 --> 00:46:47,696
Speaker 4: Heath Miller.

1001
00:46:49,376 --> 00:46:53,056
Speaker 3: A s U here's no state final answer?

1002
00:46:55,216 --> 00:46:58,536
Speaker 1: Yes, wrong, Arizona Virginia. I don't know. I didn't know

1003
00:46:58,576 --> 00:46:59,936
Speaker 1: who it was. I was just going that you barely

1004
00:46:59,936 --> 00:47:01,016
Speaker 1: missed it, but you way missed it.

1005
00:47:01,136 --> 00:47:01,976
Speaker 3: Like way missed.

1006
00:47:02,256 --> 00:47:02,576
Speaker 1: Let me know.

1007
00:47:02,736 --> 00:47:05,296
Speaker 3: I'm on the side that was a little.

1008
00:47:05,136 --> 00:47:07,336
Speaker 4: Tough one, tougher one. All right, Here we go linebacker

1009
00:47:07,376 --> 00:47:12,536
Speaker 4: Sean Merriman, twelfth over all of the Chargers.

1010
00:47:12,656 --> 00:47:15,216
Speaker 3: I know who he is, football player. I mean, I

1011
00:47:15,256 --> 00:47:19,976
Speaker 3: don't know where he went to college. I mean, my gosh,

1012
00:47:20,056 --> 00:47:22,176
Speaker 3: can I get a conference? Phoning in front? Can I

1013
00:47:22,176 --> 00:47:22,776
Speaker 3: get a conference?

1014
00:47:22,896 --> 00:47:26,176
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's on a it's on it's on a coast

1015
00:47:26,336 --> 00:47:30,856
Speaker 4: or a CC, I should say, I think, now, actually realignment?

1016
00:47:30,896 --> 00:47:40,576
Speaker 1: Yeah a CC, lorda Atlantic, Uh, Stanford, no, Maryland. All

1017
00:47:40,656 --> 00:47:42,456
Speaker 1: you said, now, I was thinking it was gonna be

1018
00:47:42,456 --> 00:47:43,416
Speaker 1: one of the big shifters.

1019
00:47:43,696 --> 00:47:45,616
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I should probably should have said that, because

1020
00:47:45,736 --> 00:47:46,136
Speaker 4: I got.

1021
00:47:46,096 --> 00:47:47,776
Speaker 1: I didn't know the answer man.

1022
00:47:48,216 --> 00:47:49,896
Speaker 3: This game's kicking me too.

1023
00:47:49,896 --> 00:47:51,136
Speaker 1: I second, give me, give it.

1024
00:47:52,216 --> 00:47:55,096
Speaker 4: I think you'll get this one. Matt quarterback Jason Campbell.

1025
00:47:55,656 --> 00:47:58,056
Speaker 3: Oh he went to Auburn. There you go. I actually

1026
00:47:58,096 --> 00:48:01,176
Speaker 3: played him. We played him in college. So yeah, that's cool.

1027
00:48:01,256 --> 00:48:01,856
Speaker 3: So I knew that.

1028
00:48:01,936 --> 00:48:03,056
Speaker 1: All right, what's score now?

1029
00:48:03,296 --> 00:48:05,656
Speaker 4: Okay, he's got to You got one, Bobby, Okay, ready

1030
00:48:05,656 --> 00:48:10,696
Speaker 4: to hit me? Okay, first one up? Running back Ronnie Brown, Uh, same,

1031
00:48:11,696 --> 00:48:12,616
Speaker 4: which is Auburn?

1032
00:48:12,816 --> 00:48:16,856
Speaker 3: Yeah that was I knew that one too. Okay.

1033
00:48:17,016 --> 00:48:23,176
Speaker 4: What about cornerback Adam Pacman Jones Cincinnati. No, it's not

1034
00:48:23,296 --> 00:48:24,176
Speaker 4: a West Virginia.

1035
00:48:24,496 --> 00:48:25,576
Speaker 3: Oh West Virginia.

1036
00:48:25,656 --> 00:48:26,776
Speaker 1: Yeah, you didn't let him steal?

1037
00:48:27,216 --> 00:48:30,336
Speaker 3: Oh no, it's okay. I wouldn't have got that anyway.

1038
00:48:30,696 --> 00:48:31,496
Speaker 1: Sound very confident.

1039
00:48:31,696 --> 00:48:32,856
Speaker 3: I didn't sound very confident.

1040
00:48:33,216 --> 00:48:36,736
Speaker 4: Let me steal met West Virginia.

1041
00:48:37,616 --> 00:48:38,296
Speaker 5: Okay, all right.

1042
00:48:38,376 --> 00:48:40,856
Speaker 4: Wide receiver Brayln Edwards.

1043
00:48:43,736 --> 00:48:48,176
Speaker 1: My only recollection of Brelan Edwards is with the Browns steal.

1044
00:48:48,576 --> 00:48:51,136
Speaker 1: Well not well, that's not my pick for college. I'm

1045
00:48:51,496 --> 00:48:54,936
Speaker 1: gonna throw something out there, Braylan Edwards. I'm just gonna

1046
00:48:54,976 --> 00:48:56,776
Speaker 1: go to one of the factories. If I don't know

1047
00:48:57,416 --> 00:49:00,216
Speaker 1: Florida wrong Michigan.

1048
00:49:00,616 --> 00:49:02,136
Speaker 3: Yes, sir, yes, sir.

1049
00:49:02,296 --> 00:49:05,936
Speaker 4: No clue, good job, all right, Matt with three, Bobby

1050
00:49:05,936 --> 00:49:09,656
Speaker 4: with two, two more players to go here. Linebacker Thomas

1051
00:49:09,856 --> 00:49:10,816
Speaker 4: Davis Junior.

1052
00:49:14,496 --> 00:49:16,696
Speaker 1: I have no idea, Thomas Davis Junior.

1053
00:49:18,056 --> 00:49:23,176
Speaker 3: I'm not confident on this one either. Florida, No, Matt,

1054
00:49:24,016 --> 00:49:25,016
Speaker 3: don't even have a pick for you.

1055
00:49:25,416 --> 00:49:28,816
Speaker 4: Georgia, George. That tough one, but I figured as sec maybe.

1056
00:49:29,336 --> 00:49:31,816
Speaker 1: Okay, I gotta hit this to tie go ahead.

1057
00:49:32,016 --> 00:49:37,216
Speaker 4: Running back Darren Sprolls Kansas ate boom, I got some

1058
00:49:37,256 --> 00:49:41,216
Speaker 4: bonus tie break break well, buzz in with our name, okay,

1059
00:49:41,256 --> 00:49:46,216
Speaker 4: first one to get a point, okay, number one safety

1060
00:49:46,776 --> 00:49:47,976
Speaker 4: and Trell roll.

1061
00:49:52,176 --> 00:49:56,696
Speaker 1: Bobby go Ohio State. Wrong, I'm just picking factories when

1062
00:49:56,696 --> 00:49:57,056
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1063
00:49:57,936 --> 00:50:01,816
Speaker 3: I don't know, no idea.

1064
00:50:02,776 --> 00:50:06,976
Speaker 4: Miami the heyday of their two thousand, all right, d

1065
00:50:07,136 --> 00:50:08,136
Speaker 4: end Justin Tuck.

1066
00:50:13,376 --> 00:50:15,616
Speaker 1: Matt's got his hand like an he just buzzed on

1067
00:50:15,656 --> 00:50:16,056
Speaker 1: a seat.

1068
00:50:16,616 --> 00:50:18,336
Speaker 3: Yes, I got it, buzz.

1069
00:50:20,216 --> 00:50:22,496
Speaker 1: Boom, he got it. Yeah, you have to say your

1070
00:50:22,576 --> 00:50:23,456
Speaker 1: name like Castle.

1071
00:50:23,656 --> 00:50:24,056
Speaker 3: Castle.

1072
00:50:24,696 --> 00:50:26,416
Speaker 1: He's sitting the buzzer.

1073
00:50:27,176 --> 00:50:30,856
Speaker 3: But I'm like, not confident enough. Wait, I'm just gonna

1074
00:50:30,896 --> 00:50:33,376
Speaker 3: keep tapping it.

1075
00:50:34,736 --> 00:50:37,376
Speaker 1: You deserve that before we go. I do want to

1076
00:50:37,416 --> 00:50:39,936
Speaker 1: hit you with my new list this week. My boy

1077
00:50:39,936 --> 00:50:42,256
Speaker 1: band list will such a hit you crushed? Thank you.

1078
00:50:42,336 --> 00:50:42,576
Speaker 3: Yes.

1079
00:50:42,896 --> 00:50:45,256
Speaker 1: My my new list this week is I've made a

1080
00:50:45,296 --> 00:50:47,496
Speaker 1: list of seven NFL players if they were fast food

1081
00:50:47,536 --> 00:50:48,336
Speaker 1: menu items.

1082
00:50:48,976 --> 00:50:51,336
Speaker 3: Fast food menu items. I like this and.

1083
00:50:51,416 --> 00:50:53,776
Speaker 1: Number seven Derrick Henry. He is the double quarter pounder

1084
00:50:53,776 --> 00:50:56,656
Speaker 1: with extra everything, no frills, just meet strength and violence.

1085
00:50:58,096 --> 00:50:59,536
Speaker 3: Well said yes.

1086
00:50:59,856 --> 00:51:04,256
Speaker 1: And number six Tyreek Hill hot wings from Popeyes fast, dangerous.

1087
00:51:04,496 --> 00:51:06,496
Speaker 1: One wrong move and you're sweating from all the holes.

1088
00:51:09,656 --> 00:51:10,536
Speaker 3: That works for me.

1089
00:51:11,056 --> 00:51:14,016
Speaker 1: Number five brock Purty, he is the Wendy's one dollar

1090
00:51:14,096 --> 00:51:17,456
Speaker 1: chicken sandwich. Now you didn't expect much, but holy crap,

1091
00:51:17,616 --> 00:51:20,616
Speaker 1: did it meet all your expectations. In more, Oh, look

1092
00:51:20,656 --> 00:51:23,696
Speaker 1: at that playing to expectations and cheap is one dollar cheap?

1093
00:51:23,856 --> 00:51:26,216
Speaker 3: One dollar? It's not gonna be cheap soon, that's correct.

1094
00:51:26,336 --> 00:51:27,696
Speaker 3: That's going off the one dollar menu.

1095
00:51:28,256 --> 00:51:33,976
Speaker 1: Next up, Josh Allen, the five Guys Bacon cheeseburger, Big aggressive,

1096
00:51:34,416 --> 00:51:37,056
Speaker 1: probably gonna leave a mess everywhere, but still worth.

1097
00:51:36,896 --> 00:51:38,976
Speaker 3: It, solid solid. I would eat that.

1098
00:51:39,536 --> 00:51:41,936
Speaker 1: At number three Aaron Rodgers the in and out secret

1099
00:51:41,936 --> 00:51:44,496
Speaker 1: menu item. They need to ask the guy behind the counter.

1100
00:51:45,096 --> 00:51:47,056
Speaker 1: You like whisper, I need a chant something, maybe burn

1101
00:51:47,136 --> 00:51:49,536
Speaker 1: some sage to get it. But it's either amazing or

1102
00:51:49,576 --> 00:51:51,336
Speaker 1: it gives you food poisoning and you die. It's one

1103
00:51:51,336 --> 00:51:52,656
Speaker 1: of the two options animal style.

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00:51:52,776 --> 00:51:53,496
Speaker 3: Yes. Yes.

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00:51:53,896 --> 00:51:59,976
Speaker 1: Number two Kirk Cousins. Kirk is the Plaine McDonald's cheeseburger, safe, familiar.

1106
00:52:00,096 --> 00:52:01,816
Speaker 1: You know it's not gonna win any awards, but somehow

1107
00:52:01,816 --> 00:52:03,136
Speaker 1: it's on the menu every.

1108
00:52:02,976 --> 00:52:05,496
Speaker 3: Year, every year, and they're just gonna keep coming back

1109
00:52:05,536 --> 00:52:06,056
Speaker 3: for it more.

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00:52:06,256 --> 00:52:09,816
Speaker 1: And Number one Patrick mahomes He is the Chick fil

1111
00:52:09,856 --> 00:52:14,936
Speaker 1: A Spicy Deluxe with waffle fries, Flashy, elite, consistent. You

1112
00:52:14,976 --> 00:52:16,696
Speaker 1: don't even need to look at the menu. You just

1113
00:52:16,736 --> 00:52:22,216
Speaker 1: already know what the best thing is on there. Thank you,

1114
00:52:22,816 --> 00:52:24,416
Speaker 1: well done, Thank you very much.

1115
00:52:24,496 --> 00:52:27,816
Speaker 3: Yes, fast food menu items for the NFL players had

1116
00:52:27,856 --> 00:52:30,296
Speaker 3: some really bad ones video Yeah I got when I do?

1117
00:52:30,296 --> 00:52:32,136
Speaker 1: Those have like nine that are terrible and one that

1118
00:52:32,176 --> 00:52:33,096
Speaker 1: I just hope HiT's.

1119
00:52:32,936 --> 00:52:34,456
Speaker 3: No Taco Bell on that menu.

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00:52:34,816 --> 00:52:36,616
Speaker 1: No, what would Who would be a player that make

1121
00:52:36,616 --> 00:52:37,096
Speaker 1: you take it down?

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00:52:37,936 --> 00:52:38,496
Speaker 3: I won't say that.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's it, Thank you, guys. Thanks to Matt

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00:52:40,936 --> 00:52:42,416
Speaker 1: Life for coming on you guys. Check them out. Light

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Speaker 1: Foundation on Instagram and Twitter. Thanks to Matt Castle. Thanks

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00:52:45,856 --> 00:52:47,976
Speaker 1: to read who's got this episode on? One more left?

1127
00:52:48,056 --> 00:52:48,616
Speaker 1: Is that it read?

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00:52:49,936 --> 00:52:50,496
Speaker 3: I think it is?

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00:52:50,536 --> 00:52:52,656
Speaker 1: Yeah, then you're out of here. Off to Saint Louis.

1130
00:52:52,736 --> 00:52:54,576
Speaker 1: Off to Saint Louis. Man with the wife who's going

1131
00:52:54,616 --> 00:52:55,176
Speaker 1: to be a doctor.

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00:52:55,336 --> 00:52:57,856
Speaker 3: That's right, we're going to miss you. I'm gonna miss you, guys.

1133
00:52:57,896 --> 00:52:58,456
Speaker 3: I'll be back.

1134
00:52:59,256 --> 00:52:59,976
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll miss you.

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00:53:00,056 --> 00:53:00,416
Speaker 3: Ray.

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00:53:01,176 --> 00:53:04,536
Speaker 1: We forget his name. We're already yeah, yeah, yeah, missy

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00:53:05,456 --> 00:53:08,216
Speaker 1: Off Kevin, nice job, and thank you everybody for listening.

1138
00:53:08,296 --> 00:53:10,696
Speaker 1: And if you're watching this on YouTube on on the

1139
00:53:10,776 --> 00:53:13,216
Speaker 1: NFL feeds, the Bobby Bonanchow feed, if you don't mind,

1140
00:53:13,256 --> 00:53:15,296
Speaker 1: please go subscribe to lots to say. We'll see you

1141
00:53:15,296 --> 00:53:15,616
Speaker 1: next week.

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00:53:15,616 --> 00:53:15,976
Speaker 3: Everybody.

1143
00:53:15,976 --> 00:53:16,736
Speaker 1: We've had lots to say.

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00:53:16,776 --> 00:53:17,456
Speaker 5: Bye, guys.

1145
00:53:21,656 --> 00:53:23,576
Speaker 1: Why don't we do a top ten mock draft?

1146
00:53:23,656 --> 00:53:25,416
Speaker 3: Oh gosh, and.

1147
00:53:26,896 --> 00:53:29,096
Speaker 1: We're just going to draft spots.

1148
00:53:29,136 --> 00:53:29,256
Speaker 3: Now.

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00:53:29,256 --> 00:53:31,096
Speaker 1: You can put the team beside him, but we'll see

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00:53:31,096 --> 00:53:33,096
Speaker 1: who does best and we'll check you back in next week.

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00:53:33,496 --> 00:53:37,616
Speaker 1: So let's say you draft Sugar. I'll just say three. Yeah,

1152
00:53:37,656 --> 00:53:39,496
Speaker 1: And let's say Shuldar is not drafted by the Giants

1153
00:53:39,536 --> 00:53:41,376
Speaker 1: at three, but he is taking it three by somebody

1154
00:53:41,416 --> 00:53:43,176
Speaker 1: that trades up. You still get the point because you

1155
00:53:43,216 --> 00:53:45,576
Speaker 1: put him at three. Fair Okay, so you want to

1156
00:53:45,616 --> 00:53:46,016
Speaker 1: go first.

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00:53:47,376 --> 00:53:49,336
Speaker 3: I think it's the easiest one in the Tennessee Titans.

1158
00:53:49,696 --> 00:53:52,216
Speaker 1: You can do your whole top ten and I'll have

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00:53:52,336 --> 00:53:53,336
Speaker 1: to number one.

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00:53:53,576 --> 00:53:56,576
Speaker 3: Number one for the Tennessee Titans, I've got cam Ward.

1161
00:53:57,176 --> 00:53:59,896
Speaker 3: I believe that they're committed to this kid, and that's

1162
00:53:59,936 --> 00:54:04,136
Speaker 3: going to happen Cleveland. I believe Cleveland goes with Travis Hunter.

1163
00:54:04,696 --> 00:54:07,216
Speaker 3: They brought in care Any Pickett, Joe Flacco. They don't

1164
00:54:07,216 --> 00:54:09,416
Speaker 3: know what's going on with Watson. But at the same time,

1165
00:54:09,696 --> 00:54:13,016
Speaker 3: I think this guy is a special talent and he'll

1166
00:54:13,056 --> 00:54:15,336
Speaker 3: add a lot of value to that wide receiver room.

1167
00:54:15,456 --> 00:54:17,256
Speaker 3: Even though I do believe that he might be a

1168
00:54:17,256 --> 00:54:20,896
Speaker 3: better corner. I think he's gonna come in Giants. I

1169
00:54:20,896 --> 00:54:23,856
Speaker 3: think the Giants are going with Abdull Carter. I don't

1170
00:54:23,856 --> 00:54:25,776
Speaker 3: know how you pass up on him, because they brought

1171
00:54:25,816 --> 00:54:28,936
Speaker 3: in Russell Wilson Jamis Winston. They have two veteran quarterbacks.

1172
00:54:29,336 --> 00:54:33,416
Speaker 3: Do they view Shador Sanders' skill set so much better

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00:54:33,576 --> 00:54:34,376
Speaker 3: than those two guys.

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00:54:34,496 --> 00:54:39,256
Speaker 1: I don't know, But Abdall Carter maybe you know, broken foot, low, undersized.

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00:54:39,776 --> 00:54:42,096
Speaker 3: Still good, dude, I'm still good. Don't try to talk

1176
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Speaker 3: me out of that.

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00:54:42,856 --> 00:54:44,096
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to talk about ams asking.

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00:54:44,176 --> 00:54:47,176
Speaker 3: I mean, I think I watched that kid play last year.

1179
00:54:47,456 --> 00:54:50,816
Speaker 3: He is special and he's also so versatile. Where he

1180
00:54:50,896 --> 00:54:52,976
Speaker 3: started out at linebacker at Penn State, he didn't move

1181
00:54:53,016 --> 00:54:55,856
Speaker 3: into the defensive end position till this year. That just

1182
00:54:55,936 --> 00:54:58,856
Speaker 3: shows what type of special talent he is. Do you

1183
00:54:58,896 --> 00:54:59,656
Speaker 3: remember in the bowl game?

1184
00:54:59,736 --> 00:55:02,336
Speaker 1: Yeah, I played with the with one one arm completely yeah.

1185
00:55:02,776 --> 00:55:05,976
Speaker 3: Right, yes, is unbelievable. New England Patriot. I'm going with

1186
00:55:06,016 --> 00:55:09,896
Speaker 3: Will Campbell, even with his short arms. I like this kid.

1187
00:55:09,976 --> 00:55:12,176
Speaker 3: He's a five year star, four year starter at LSU

1188
00:55:12,496 --> 00:55:14,776
Speaker 3: since the day he stepped on campus. He is a

1189
00:55:14,816 --> 00:55:18,056
Speaker 3: really solid left tackle and they need help at the

1190
00:55:18,136 --> 00:55:21,496
Speaker 3: left tackle. Jacksonville. Jacksonville is a tricky one for me,

1191
00:55:21,696 --> 00:55:23,656
Speaker 3: but I'm gonna go with Mason Graham. I saw him

1192
00:55:23,656 --> 00:55:26,816
Speaker 3: play for Michigan last year. This guy is a beast

1193
00:55:26,856 --> 00:55:29,496
Speaker 3: in the interior part of the defense and he'll add

1194
00:55:29,496 --> 00:55:34,136
Speaker 3: a lot of depth there. Raiders, I'm gonna go. I'm

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00:55:34,136 --> 00:55:36,376
Speaker 3: gonna take a running back first one off the board.

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00:55:36,456 --> 00:55:40,776
Speaker 3: Ashton Genty I think that that with Gino Smith already there,

1197
00:55:40,816 --> 00:55:43,416
Speaker 3: they've got some pieces, but they need a running running game.

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Speaker 3: And you know Pete Carroll and what he likes to

1199
00:55:47,336 --> 00:55:50,376
Speaker 3: do is he likes the control, the time of possession

1200
00:55:50,416 --> 00:55:55,016
Speaker 3: with the run game. Mary that New York Jets. I'm

1201
00:55:55,016 --> 00:55:59,056
Speaker 3: gonna go with is it Membo? Yeah, he's a stud.

1202
00:55:59,456 --> 00:56:01,176
Speaker 3: I think that they need some help there for the

1203
00:56:01,216 --> 00:56:03,656
Speaker 3: New York Jets. Their right tackle left I think this

1204
00:56:04,136 --> 00:56:06,376
Speaker 3: last offseason got picked up by New England, so they're

1205
00:56:06,416 --> 00:56:09,656
Speaker 3: gonna want to fill that spot. Carolina Panthers. I'm going

1206
00:56:09,776 --> 00:56:15,976
Speaker 3: with Jalen Walker from Georgia Edge and then New Orleans.

1207
00:56:16,376 --> 00:56:18,496
Speaker 3: M this is where I go, like, do do they

1208
00:56:18,576 --> 00:56:21,776
Speaker 3: take Shador? I'm gonna go to Shad Door Sanders to

1209
00:56:21,856 --> 00:56:25,056
Speaker 3: New Orleans at ten? How about that New Orleans?

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00:56:25,176 --> 00:56:26,416
Speaker 1: Wait at nine? You're at nine?

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00:56:26,536 --> 00:56:29,056
Speaker 3: Am? I at nine? Yeah? Yeahs?

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00:56:29,496 --> 00:56:30,216
Speaker 1: Who do you have a ten?

1213
00:56:30,776 --> 00:56:35,096
Speaker 3: Ten? I got Chicago? Yeah, and that will be is it?

1214
00:56:35,256 --> 00:56:37,936
Speaker 3: Michael Williams's it's up to Georgia.

1215
00:56:38,016 --> 00:56:41,296
Speaker 1: Okay, uh huh, we only have We're only one off

1216
00:56:41,456 --> 00:56:44,736
Speaker 1: of each other, the whole, the whole. Yeah, yes, it's

1217
00:56:45,056 --> 00:56:46,576
Speaker 1: we're like we don't know where they're going to go,

1218
00:56:46,576 --> 00:56:48,256
Speaker 1: and we were pretty much right on. I have cam

1219
00:56:48,256 --> 00:56:50,616
Speaker 1: Moore at Tennessee. I can't see unless somebody offers a

1220
00:56:50,656 --> 00:56:54,176
Speaker 1: ton of everything to Tennessee. I can't see them trading

1221
00:56:54,176 --> 00:56:57,176
Speaker 1: out of cam Ward Travis Hunter at two with the Browns.

1222
00:56:57,216 --> 00:56:59,296
Speaker 1: I'd be curious to know if the Browns are going

1223
00:56:59,336 --> 00:57:04,136
Speaker 1: to end up grabbing a Kirk Cousins type player or

1224
00:57:04,136 --> 00:57:06,216
Speaker 1: if they're gonna let pick it run it to kind

1225
00:57:06,216 --> 00:57:10,496
Speaker 1: of tank, because if pick at your quarterback, you're kind

1226
00:57:10,496 --> 00:57:11,336
Speaker 1: of tanking the season.

1227
00:57:11,816 --> 00:57:14,136
Speaker 3: And this guy was a first round pick.

1228
00:57:14,456 --> 00:57:16,056
Speaker 1: Just can't pick it. Yeah, for Pittsburgh, I.

1229
00:57:18,536 --> 00:57:21,816
Speaker 3: Surely worked his way out of that role, started some games,

1230
00:57:21,816 --> 00:57:22,616
Speaker 3: got hurt.

1231
00:57:22,896 --> 00:57:25,696
Speaker 1: And Mason Randolphin of coming in starting that back part

1232
00:57:25,736 --> 00:57:27,976
Speaker 1: of that year. Uh So, I do have Travis Hunter

1233
00:57:27,976 --> 00:57:29,296
Speaker 1: going to the Browns, but I'm wondering what they're gonna

1234
00:57:29,296 --> 00:57:31,256
Speaker 1: do a quarterback because if they do nothing else other

1235
00:57:31,736 --> 00:57:37,256
Speaker 1: than pick it and Flacco, they're purposefully losing, yes, because

1236
00:57:37,296 --> 00:57:39,736
Speaker 1: they can't get a free agent quarterback, and Deshaun Watson

1237
00:57:39,776 --> 00:57:41,616
Speaker 1: will never play again. He'll never play again.

1238
00:57:41,576 --> 00:57:43,256
Speaker 3: Not after a second Achilles and.

1239
00:57:43,296 --> 00:57:45,336
Speaker 1: The and with that, what the owner saying, we messed

1240
00:57:45,376 --> 00:57:49,136
Speaker 1: up by by that contract, I would say, so you

1241
00:57:49,176 --> 00:57:50,856
Speaker 1: can't really let him play again. And once you had

1242
00:57:52,256 --> 00:57:54,976
Speaker 1: Abdul Carter, Sam Giants, he's awesome. I have Will Campbell.

1243
00:57:54,976 --> 00:57:56,416
Speaker 1: But here's the thing about Will Campbell going to the

1244
00:57:56,416 --> 00:57:58,776
Speaker 1: Patriots at four and I think Kevin probably likes that

1245
00:57:58,816 --> 00:58:01,216
Speaker 1: Will Campbell goes to the Patriots. I think you definitely

1246
00:58:01,296 --> 00:58:04,496
Speaker 1: need some protection for your quarterback. But at his pro day,

1247
00:58:04,536 --> 00:58:08,816
Speaker 1: as arms measured longer, Yeah, I don't care, I'm stretching out.

1248
00:58:09,136 --> 00:58:09,856
Speaker 3: Oh yeah.

1249
00:58:09,896 --> 00:58:12,096
Speaker 4: And then the combine you're saying, I'm not looking in

1250
00:58:12,176 --> 00:58:14,176
Speaker 4: the arms as much. I'm all about the film, watch film,

1251
00:58:14,176 --> 00:58:15,256
Speaker 4: watching game's lsu.

1252
00:58:15,416 --> 00:58:15,976
Speaker 3: He's a stud.

1253
00:58:16,296 --> 00:58:18,736
Speaker 1: He was a stud. But the narrative has been little

1254
00:58:18,816 --> 00:58:21,376
Speaker 1: arms Trannosaurus Rex. But I would just like to say,

1255
00:58:21,496 --> 00:58:23,816
Speaker 1: as much as I have also participated in that narrative,

1256
00:58:24,176 --> 00:58:26,376
Speaker 1: that I did see that at his pro day they

1257
00:58:26,416 --> 00:58:29,416
Speaker 1: remeasured him and his arms were a low longer.

1258
00:58:29,576 --> 00:58:31,296
Speaker 4: Sounds like a little home field advantage.

1259
00:58:31,336 --> 00:58:34,256
Speaker 3: Probably, yes, Probably, So that's why you go to your

1260
00:58:34,296 --> 00:58:34,696
Speaker 3: pro day.

1261
00:58:35,256 --> 00:58:37,336
Speaker 1: Mason Graham was on it was the most dominant defensive

1262
00:58:37,336 --> 00:58:40,296
Speaker 1: tackle I saw anywhere last year. Jacksonville Worth saying there

1263
00:58:40,616 --> 00:58:43,016
Speaker 1: Gentu the Raiders, and I have Gentu the Raiders as

1264
00:58:43,016 --> 00:58:46,296
Speaker 1: well running back the only change. And I'm not picking

1265
00:58:46,296 --> 00:58:49,816
Speaker 1: anybody about Genty, but I could see them drafting Shador

1266
00:58:49,896 --> 00:58:53,816
Speaker 1: as their pick. If one, let's say, if the Pats

1267
00:58:53,896 --> 00:58:58,096
Speaker 1: end up taking Genty, I could see them jumping to Shadoor.

1268
00:58:58,136 --> 00:58:59,696
Speaker 1: But I could also see if that happens New Orleans

1269
00:58:59,736 --> 00:59:02,136
Speaker 1: trading up because they're both It's a race to Shador

1270
00:59:03,336 --> 00:59:05,976
Speaker 1: once Genty goes, It's a race to Shador for sure.

1271
00:59:06,736 --> 00:59:08,936
Speaker 3: That's where the magic might happen right there, with the

1272
00:59:09,056 --> 00:59:11,896
Speaker 3: trade outs, you know, draft capital, this, that and the other.

1273
00:59:11,976 --> 00:59:13,256
Speaker 3: Who's going to come up to get your door?

1274
00:59:13,456 --> 00:59:16,456
Speaker 1: Membo's awesome. I watched him play Yes. When we talked

1275
00:59:16,536 --> 00:59:21,056
Speaker 1: to Missouri's head coach, Coach Drink, he was just raving

1276
00:59:21,096 --> 00:59:23,176
Speaker 1: about Membo and that also is going to be a

1277
00:59:23,176 --> 00:59:26,176
Speaker 1: real program leader for them. For him to get drafted

1278
00:59:26,216 --> 00:59:30,296
Speaker 1: so high Carolina, anybody from Georgia is just awesome. They

1279
00:59:30,696 --> 00:59:33,376
Speaker 1: translate big time to the pros because they're basically basically

1280
00:59:33,376 --> 00:59:33,976
Speaker 1: playing the pros.

1281
00:59:34,016 --> 00:59:34,456
Speaker 3: Already.

1282
00:59:35,056 --> 00:59:37,536
Speaker 1: Shit her at nine, and then I have Tyler Warren

1283
00:59:37,536 --> 00:59:39,736
Speaker 1: for the Bears at ten. Tyler Warren I like that

1284
00:59:39,776 --> 00:59:41,776
Speaker 1: because Tyler Warren did everything in high school. First of all,

1285
00:59:41,816 --> 00:59:44,096
Speaker 1: he was a quarterback. Once he went to college with

1286
00:59:44,176 --> 00:59:46,576
Speaker 1: Penn State, he was a tight end. They built offense

1287
00:59:46,656 --> 00:59:49,216
Speaker 1: full offensive packages around him. But he also played a

1288
00:59:49,216 --> 00:59:51,256
Speaker 1: little quarterback. Tyler Warren can do it all.

1289
00:59:51,296 --> 00:59:51,896
Speaker 3: But he can do it.

1290
00:59:51,936 --> 00:59:53,736
Speaker 1: He can run the ball, he can catch the ball,

1291
00:59:53,736 --> 00:59:55,256
Speaker 1: he can he can split out wide. He can also

1292
00:59:55,296 --> 00:59:56,656
Speaker 1: play tight in a block. So I have him going

1293
00:59:56,656 --> 00:59:57,336
Speaker 1: ten to the Bears.

1294
00:59:57,496 --> 00:59:57,856
Speaker 3: Love that.

1295
00:59:57,936 --> 00:59:59,976
Speaker 1: So we're the same except for number ten. And we

1296
01:00:00,016 --> 01:00:02,056
Speaker 1: bet ten thousand dollars on this. Yeah, so I'm feeling

1297
01:00:02,096 --> 01:00:03,336
Speaker 1: pretty good about it. Thatsh money.

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01:00:03,416 --> 01:00:05,136
Speaker 3: Yes, sir gets your bag.

1299
01:00:05,456 --> 01:00:12,496
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got lots to save, lots to say with

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Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.