1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty, arm. 3 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 2: Strong and Getty and he Armstrong and Yetty. 4 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 3: The departments do not have any clue where the dollars 5 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,639 Speaker 3: are going. How many audits has the Pentagon failed? 6 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 2: Who has any idea? 7 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 3: How much waste and abuse there is in the trillions 8 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 3: of dollars spent by the federal government. This government is 9 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 3: not watching how your dollars are being spent. And President 10 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 3: Trump has commissioned Elon and vi Veik and many others 11 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 3: across the government to get to the bottom of this, 12 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 3: so the money that you earn as an American citizen 13 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 3: will be jealously treasured and guarded and not wasted any longer. 14 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 4: That's Stephen Miller, who is going to be the Deputy 15 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 4: something or other. What did he get named to. 16 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: The other day, I can't remember. He's one of the 17 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: chief advisors certainly. 18 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, in the Trump administration talking about DOJE the Department 19 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 4: of Government Excess or expenditures or waste or whatever efficiency 20 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 4: efficiency there you go. 21 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's funny. 22 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: There's a couple of things he said there that if 23 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: you stop and think about it. And one of my 24 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: themes lately has been number one, cut the crap, which 25 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: is closely related to my other theme, remember your first principles. 26 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: What are we doing here? Let's start at the beginning. 27 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: And if you get down the road two, three, four 28 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 1: priorities and those priorities start to interfere with and damage 29 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: your first principle what you are here to do, you 30 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: need to take serious look at whether you've you've been 31 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: led as strike anyway, Having said that, Miller pointing out 32 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: that this enormous, incredibly expensive enterprise that is the federal 33 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: government is practically never subjected to. 34 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 2: Any sort of analysis. 35 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: Assessing efficiency and waste and effectiveness and the idea that 36 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: something this incredibly expensive would exist without like serious safeguards 37 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: and rein ends and fail safes. 38 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 39 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: Every American citizen should be familiar with the yearly audit 40 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: that's done on the federal government and like weight with 41 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: baited breath to see what it would yield. 42 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 2: But no, it's the opposite. 43 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 4: Nobody even asks the question, right, which is crazy and 44 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:41,239 Speaker 4: oh yeah. 45 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: And and incredibly expensive, Thank you very much. As text, 46 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: you know, the deadlines approach. 47 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was disappointed. 48 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 4: I was listening to one of my favorite podcasts the 49 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 4: other day and they are really yucking it up about 50 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 4: how unlikely it is that Elon and Vivek can make 51 00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 4: any real difference on this, since the big drive of 52 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 4: our financial problems are the big entitlements and nobody's going 53 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 4: to touch those. They can save maybe two hundred and 54 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 4: fifty billion dollars a year out of this. After that, 55 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 4: it's gonna be hard, Like, that's nothing like. That's the 56 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 4: fact that every cent I ever pay in tax, my 57 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 4: whole life gets wasted, and you could stop that from happening. 58 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 2: Is not worth doing? Is I find offensive? Yeah? It is. 59 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,239 Speaker 1: And even more than that, because you're one hundred percent 60 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: right Elon once again, is his idea, his philosophy of 61 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 1: fail fast and learn faster. 62 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 2: If this, excuse me, if this. 63 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: Effort the Doge thing, if indeed it yields some decent 64 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: results in the discretionary part of the budget, which is, 65 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: you know, I can't remember a third of it or 66 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: something like that, and that, and then people talk about 67 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: and it becomes household knowledge that well, they can only 68 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: do so much because most of our government is actually 69 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: all these programs. 70 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 2: You've heard about that would be enormous. It's important, sure 71 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 2: and educational. 72 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: Ninety percent of Americans could not tell you that, or 73 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: or seventy five percent something like that. So anyway, I 74 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: just I like the effort to please do it, even 75 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: if you fail completely, at least YOUT tried. Anyway, A 76 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 1: couple of interesting things about the size of the federal 77 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: workforce and the sprawling federal government. I found this interesting. 78 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk tweeted this the other day. Did you know 79 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 1: that eighty five percent of the federal workforce works from 80 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: home and only have to come in one day a 81 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: month on any given day, Only seventeen percent of the 82 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 1: federal workforces in a federal office building. Blah blah blah. 83 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: And I read that and I thought, wait a minute, 84 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: is that right. No, it's not right, it's not right. 85 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: According to the OMB, and they're fairly accurate, about half 86 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 1: of federal workers are eligible for telework, and of those 87 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: about sixty percent of the work is actually performed at 88 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: a job site. So if you can do basic methods, 89 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: probably around twenty percent of the federal government that is 90 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 1: working remotely with god knows what level of efficiency or accountability. 91 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 2: But but again, you don't need to go with. 92 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: The wild, extraordinary and inaccurate number to say, okay, maybe 93 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 1: we start there. And I brought that up not to 94 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: undermine my own point, but just to point out, and 95 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 1: we struggle with this every day. There's so much out 96 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 1: there that is untrue, but it's so good you want 97 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 1: to believe it. So you just have to beware of 98 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 1: that sort of thing in today's information environment. But this 99 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 1: from Wall Street Journal two point three million jobs the 100 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: federal workforce in charts, and they go through the various hirings, 101 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:42,239 Speaker 1: growth and reduction in federal workforce the last four presidential administrations. 102 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 1: And it's interesting the Democrats definitely grew it way more 103 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: than the Republicans. 104 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 2: Year over year, but the. 105 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: Republicans grew at times too, depending on their needs Worth 106 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: mentioning seventy percent of civilian workers are in military related agencies. 107 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: Seventy percent. I did not know that, wow, And are 108 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: they needed. 109 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 2: Right? Right? 110 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: And it's difficult to get out get through this topic 111 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 1: without you know, throwing in a million talent tangents. But 112 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: as I've said for a long time, we need to 113 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: have respect for our military, particularly our fighting. 114 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 2: Men and women. 115 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 4: We do not need worship of our military, because if 116 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 4: you're worshiping the military and worshiping the Pentagon, you're not 117 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 4: constantly calling to calling for them to account for every 118 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 4: dollar they spend. 119 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 2: And it's an enormous budget we need to. 120 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, you can get a lot closer to worship for 121 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 4: our people in uniform, but no, well, I guess they 122 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 4: all wear uniforms, are fighting people. But no need to 123 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 4: for the bureocracy at all. It's no different than any 124 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 4: other bureaucracy. 125 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 1: Right, yeah, yeah, and it's subject to the iron law 126 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 1: of bureaucracy. But the Journal points out that two point 127 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 1: three million Americans who worked directly for the federal government, 128 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: less than two percent of the total US workforce. And 129 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: you think, well, that's not that significant. It's every dollar 130 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: of your federal taxes except the ones that go to entitlements. 131 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: So yeah, as long as the money's coming out of 132 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: my paycheck, I care. They work as everything from nurses 133 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: and FA hospitals and park rangers and Yellowstone to guards 134 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: and federal prisons, and the nineteen employees of the Nuclear 135 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: Waste Technical Review Board about eighty percent of them actually 136 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: work outside of Washington, d C. I thought that was interesting. 137 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 4: It is amazing that we don't value our tax money more, 138 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 4: as you already said. But so you go to work 139 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 4: every single day and you make a living and the 140 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 4: government takes a big chunk of it, and you don't 141 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 4: pay attention. 142 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 2: To how they spend it. They just waste it. They 143 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 2: waste a lot of it. We should be outraged at that. 144 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 4: Don't take my money if you're not going to spend 145 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 4: it on something that I want or care about. 146 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so much being. 147 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,239 Speaker 1: Our brilliant plan we came up with a few years ago. 148 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: And this could be assigned at random because it doesn't matter, 149 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,679 Speaker 1: and that would be an accurate way to do it. Anyway, 150 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: you get a notice with your federal taxes at the 151 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: end of every year on your final W two you 152 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: paid what ten thousand dollars one hundred thousand dollars eight 153 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars in federal income taxes, and it would 154 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: say you built one one hundredth of this bridge, or 155 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: you every single dollar you paid went to the Department 156 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: of wasting your money on education or something like that, 157 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: and everybody and that way, everybody would think wow, wow, 158 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: that or you know, a bridge is practically universally understood 159 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 1: and accepted. But wait a second, this went to the 160 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: Department of the whatever the hell the Department of the 161 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: Interior all of my tax money for their programs supporting 162 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 1: indigenous art programs. 163 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 4: Right, Oh okay, what is that program? How does it work? 164 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 4: I wonder what their budget is? Is that money wasted? 165 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 4: Is it just given out to cronies? 166 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: And everybody would have a personal stake, But anyway, I 167 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: don't want to get hung up on that as much 168 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: as I enjoy the discussion. Roughly seventy percent of civilian 169 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: roles or military or security related agencies VA. The VA 170 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: has the most civilian workers because it operates hundreds of 171 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: hospitals and clinics. Homeland Security is now the third largest. 172 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: Education department is the smallest, has forty four hundred and 173 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: twenty five workers, easily shut down it should not exist, 174 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: which we'll talk about later on. Let's see, Yeah, that's 175 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: kind of interesting. You got any other justice apartment has 176 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: one hundred and seventeen thousand employees civilian employees? 177 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 2: Anyway we could get deep. 178 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 4: Could they operates just fine? With ten percent fewer than that? 179 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:54,199 Speaker 4: I would guess that they could. 180 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: Uh, yeah, probably so I thought this was great Breitbart 181 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 1: reporting the Knagon failed at seventh audit in a row, 182 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,079 Speaker 1: failing to account for it's more than eight hundred and 183 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 1: twenty four billion dollar budget in twenty twenty four. 184 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 4: Do you remember that there's a famous John Stewart clip 185 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 4: about that several years back where he grilled somebody on 186 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 4: a stage from the Pentagon about the Pentagon failing their 187 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 4: audit and where did those money go in? And the 188 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 4: person that ran it didn't have any idea. They don't 189 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 4: care because there's no public there's no political pressure on 190 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 4: them to pay attention to where the money goes. 191 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 2: Zero. 192 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 1: So the DoD's Office of Inspector General, the DODIG yeah yeaoh, 193 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: said auditors quote could not obtain sufficient appropriate audit evidence 194 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: to support an opinion. The audit, performed by an independent 195 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,839 Speaker 1: public accounting firm, looked at twenty seven different DoD components, 196 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: and in a statement, the Inspector General, Robert Storch, said, 197 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 1: there's been little progress since two thousand and five, almost 198 00:10:57,600 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 1: twenty years ago. 199 00:10:59,520 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 2: Quote. 200 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: Although the DoD made some progress in improving financial management 201 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: during the fiscal year of financial audit statements blah, many 202 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: of it's identified weaknesses have not improved since two thousand 203 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: and five. 204 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess you just accept that we do get 205 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 4: the government we deserve and people don't care. 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Trump 243 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 4: is embracing, of course, the only successful really electric car 244 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 4: company in history. Boy, politics makes for strange bedfellows all 245 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:15,319 Speaker 4: the way around. We got a lot more on the 246 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:21,559 Speaker 4: way to stay here. Biden said yes to the rockets 247 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 4: and today has said yes to landmines, two things that 248 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 4: had been no goes in Ukraine up until this week. 249 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 2: More on that later. 250 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 1: And the first sexually confused oddball has been elected to 251 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: Congress some transgender person, So now there'll be Willie's in 252 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: the women's bathroom and folks are not happy, but it 253 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:42,559 Speaker 1: we'll discuss that as well. 254 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 2: With us love. 255 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: Andy Kessler columnist, He wrote, what the Doge people should 256 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: look at first, We're talking about these sprawling, obscene federal 257 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: budget and all of our tax dollars, and like the 258 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: California homeless programs, nobody even asks the question if if 259 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: any of this stuff is working. 260 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 2: Not only can they not answer. 261 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 4: The question, nobody asks the question. So we need to 262 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 4: hone in on efficiency and not squandering people's damn money. 263 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: And it's amazing that more people aren't fired up about this. 264 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: I just I think they're defeated. Anyway, Andy says, here's 265 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: a handy cheat sheet on how mister Musk can toss 266 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: shrinker squeeze departments, commissions and agencies, the FTC, the Federal 267 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: Trade Commission, toss it the current FTC under Lena Khan 268 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: is a worse record than the Chicago White Sox. The 269 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: FTC already splits anti trust cases with the Justice Department, 270 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: so move a few pro consumer competition lawyers there and 271 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: then shudder it. The FCC. 272 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 2: Toss it. 273 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: The FCC caused the dot com boom and bust. Net 274 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: neutrality killed the broadband in Europe. It was still reinstated 275 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: here under the Biden administration. Three economists in a back 276 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: room can create and maintain a set of rules to 277 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: keep access competitive. 278 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 2: Toss it. So don't need the FCC at all. 279 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 4: No, no, Well, we're in the business regulated by it, 280 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 4: and I have seen no use for it. 281 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 2: Security is and Exchange Commission. Toss it. The SEC missed the. 282 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 1: Bernie Madoff Ponzi scheme, allowed crypto and spack, pump and dumps, 283 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: missed the FTX fiasco. Free trading requires setting and enforcing 284 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: simple rules. Could be not my area of expertise. US 285 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: Department of Agriculture toss it. This will end finally, end 286 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: corn subsidies for Iowa. We can move food stamp administrators 287 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: in funding to the States. The Department of Agriculture is 288 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: a gigantic bureaucracy and quite socialist right exactly, all those 289 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: free meals for everybody all the time. Now that's the 290 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: Department of Agriculture who voted on this. You're no longer 291 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: in charge of feeding your children. The government will do 292 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: you for do it for you. That won't cause massive 293 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: societal sociological change. Interesting Federal Reserve shrinket. The Central Bank 294 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: missed Biden inflation. Dart throwers could do better than its 295 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: four hundred PhDs cut its funding dart throwers. I love 296 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: that the Defense Department squeeze it reallocate spending the drones, ships, 297 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: and defense systems such as Patriot missiles. Anti missile defenses 298 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: can be a giant export business as well. US Postal 299 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: Service toss it and its monopoly on first and third 300 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: class mail go private. Amazon trucks already come to most 301 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: neighborhoods every day. My neighborhood. Between Amazon and UPS and 302 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: FedEx and a couple of other lesser players, they're omnipresent. 303 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, to come to the drivers. 304 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: Hey Joe, hey Jim, Yeah, others to toss. Fracking happened 305 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: despite the Energy Department, do we need it? Trump tariffs 306 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: will curtail imports so we can shrink the Import Export 307 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:51,479 Speaker 1: Bank by at least half, close the Small Business Administration, 308 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: and what does the Commerce. 309 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 2: Department even do? Even more? 310 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: To toss the Labor Department union puppets, that is abs, 311 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: It's a lutely true. 312 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 2: Shrink it by eighty percent. I know they have important work. 313 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 2: Shrink it. 314 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 4: I know I'd be accused of being an ignoramis by 315 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 4: people who know more about this, But got I feel 316 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 4: like you could get rid of so much of the 317 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 4: government and everything would just be fine. 318 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:19,640 Speaker 1: A few more, even more to toss Labor Department, union puppets, 319 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: Transportation Department, it's mileage and electric vehicle mandates killed Detroit, 320 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 1: although Miss d Musk may want to run the department himself. 321 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: The EPA reduce its carbon footprint housing in urban developments, 322 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: not the seventies anymore, get rid of it. Interior outsource 323 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,360 Speaker 1: the parks to Disney. No, they're too much into grooming 324 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 1: right now. Veterans affairs, can't they use the same hospitals 325 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 1: as the rest of us, no matter who pays. 326 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 2: That's an interesting question. 327 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: I would not be too smug about that, since our 328 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: veterans deserve the care they are promised. But the idea 329 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: that you get a voucher and can use it anywhere 330 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: you want, as opposed to waiting fifteen months for appointment 331 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: at a VA hospital. I'm fully in favor of that. 332 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 1: More competition, more. 333 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 4: Uh yeah, we're gonna have our first trans congress person. 334 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 2: How they're going to handle the bathrooms, among other things. 335 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 5: And restaurant chain I Hop announced this week that it 336 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 5: is the official breakfast partner of Xbox, while waffle House 337 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 5: remains the official breakfast partner of meth. 338 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 2: I used to throw my headphones on. Was it funny? 339 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 4: I just go to waffle House a lot, and I 340 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 4: was not on meth. I was just drunk, like a 341 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 4: lot of the other people. Just good old fashioned drunk. 342 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 4: Criticizing my hobbies is good old fashioned, run of the 343 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 4: mill drunk. It doesn't have to be meth. Yes, Katie, good. 344 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 6: Time killer waffle House fights on YouTube? 345 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 2: Oh really? Oh yeah? 346 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 4: Sh everywhere, way way more entertaining than Tyson Jake paul I. 347 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 4: Honest to god, I have seen a half dozen at 348 00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 4: least really good waffle House fights. 349 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 2: With my own eyes. So back in the day, that's 350 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 2: your new thing. 351 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 1: You become like the Joe Rogan of wildlhouse fights like 352 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: the Well, he's the MMA announcer and you know, kind 353 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 1: of an impresario and all. I don't know exactly how 354 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: you turn that into an online empire, but it's doable. 355 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 4: Have you seen the trailer for the new Martin Scorsese project, Uh, 356 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 4: what is it again? 357 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 2: The Saints? 358 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: Oh? 359 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah I have. 360 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 4: It's a series or several episodes, four different religious saints, 361 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 4: Joan of Arc, John the Baptist, and then two others 362 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 4: that I didn't quite know as well. But anyway, it 363 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 4: looks like, well, it's Martin Scorsese level depiction of what 364 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,239 Speaker 4: it was like for Joan of Arc to uh, you know, 365 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 4: be what she was and lead crusaders against what she 366 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 4: thought were evil doers and be he caught and tortured 367 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 4: and burn at the steak. 368 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 2: Hey, in all your Scorsese glory, it looks pretty dramatic. Yeah. 369 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: The John the Baptist one is super intriguing. Yeah, yeah, 370 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: no kidding, but they all look interesting. 371 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 2: I'll check that out. Yeah why not? Why not? 372 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 4: Uh? 373 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 2: What was I going to say? 374 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: I had something I wanted to bring up real quickly, 375 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 1: and it flitted out of my mind because I'm old 376 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: and easily distracted. 377 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,239 Speaker 4: Happy birthday to Joe Biden. I just saw up on 378 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:29,439 Speaker 4: some news thing where it said Joe Biden is the 379 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 4: oldest president to ever be in office. Exclamation point. That's 380 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 4: kind of a weird thing to have an exclamation point about, 381 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 4: given the fact that he's quitting because he's so old. 382 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 4: I mean, right, you just emphasized the thing that drove 383 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 4: him out of office with an exclamation point, like yay. 384 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 2: I thought that was what had driven out of office. 385 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: And he was so delusional he tried to run for 386 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: president again in his own party. 387 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 2: After he got a. 388 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: Certain amount down the road, said Joe, you can't do this. 389 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: You're too senile. So yeah, it's a little uncomfortable. 390 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 4: At the G twenty after some big gathering they had today, 391 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 4: he took no questions and all the other leaders did, 392 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 4: and was pointed out yesterday he has not taken a 393 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 4: question or said anything since the election. Oh wow at all. 394 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 4: I wonder if he's going to write it clear to 395 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 4: January twenty of like that. 396 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 2: Well, and do we have to clip We had it 397 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 2: the other day. 398 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: We didn't use it where they were trying to take 399 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: some sort of group picture, but he'd wandered off behind 400 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: a palm tree and they couldn't find him or something. 401 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 2: It happens. Yeah, well, yeah he's old. 402 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 1: He's very very old in senile but just great for 403 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 1: another term. As recently as four or five months ago, anyway, 404 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 1: AW came across piece speaking of Joe Rogan about the left. 405 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 1: Keeps saying this is kind of a hot topic in 406 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: you know, online lefty circles. We need our own Joe 407 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: Rogan that would win the next election, and why there's 408 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: never going to be one. 409 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 2: But I thought this was this was overly interesting. 410 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 4: A very popular podcaster, from what I understand, does he 411 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 4: need at an explanation at this point? 412 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 2: I don't know either. I'm not equivaling with you. I 413 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 2: just I wonder. 414 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, anyway, yeah, super super popular podcaster, has these like 415 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: three hour long conversations with interesting thinkers. 416 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 2: Many of them are very very out of the box. 417 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 2: But more on that to come. 418 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 4: You know, Joe Rogan almost certainly doesn't need any sort 419 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 4: of introduction, since any grown up who takes in spoken 420 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 4: word has at least heard of him. And when I 421 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 4: did career day at my son's high school the other day, 422 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 4: that was one of the few people I could mention 423 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 4: that the fourteen to seventeen year olds had heard of 424 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 4: and they all recognized the name Joe Rogan as children. 425 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 2: And that's something. Now. 426 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly and seriously, you need to recalibrate now and again. 427 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 1: ABC News, ABC Nightly News needs more of an explanation 428 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 1: for a lot of humanity. 429 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 2: Absolutely, the Big Podcast. 430 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: Absolutely, So before we get to the Joe Rogan thing, 431 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: which I think you'll find interesting, I was reading a 432 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: great piece that I mentioned about how the University of 433 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: North Carolina has started a new college within the university, 434 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 1: which is kind of a big tent that has colleges 435 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 1: underneath it, quote unquote, but it's all about free exchange 436 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 1: of ideas and balanced faculty and no censoring of controversial opinions. 437 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: It's a return to academic freedom and it's wonderful. But 438 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 1: the guy who wrote the article and I could talk 439 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: all day about the main point of the article, but 440 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:31,679 Speaker 1: this was kind. 441 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 2: Of just thrown in in the middle. 442 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: He mentions that a friend, a professor of literature at 443 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 1: an elite university, recently observed something he's noticed about his 444 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 1: students over a couple of decades. They seem to think 445 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: of social and political problems as simply matters of good 446 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: and evil. Good people take the right view, people take 447 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 1: the wrong view. Does that remind you of how you 448 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 1: were treated when your brother in law found out you 449 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: voted for Trump? I mean, for instance, anyway, he says, 450 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 1: he writes, I like it to Menisianism, the third century 451 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: philosophy holding that the world consists of spirit good and 452 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: matter evil. But anyway, this this guy they're quoting, he mentions, 453 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 1: uh Plato and he bray Hebraic law, it's all about 454 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: there's good and evil. But that dualism, it's a constant 455 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: temptation in human affairs, but it has been heightened in 456 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: recent decades. Social media is a great ratchet. There's a 457 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:35,919 Speaker 1: like button and a dislike button. No, maybe button, But 458 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: he says, the youngsters have now increasingly seen the world in. 459 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 2: That dualistic way. 460 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: Not, oh interesting, you see the world differently than I do? 461 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 1: Or gosh, I wonder if my idea and your idea 462 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,919 Speaker 1: overlap in a way we can talk about which is 463 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 1: the way mankind moves forward? No, it's all good and evil. 464 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 4: Or even that I'm sixty four, you're seventy thirty. On 465 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 4: this topic, right, that's just not allowed. 466 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 1: And who it was, said James Lindsey, who pointed out 467 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: first of all that no, it wasn't. 468 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 2: It was. 469 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: But Jonathan Hyde, who talked about how the most savage attacks. 470 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:21,360 Speaker 2: Are within your bubble. 471 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 1: If you're in a college student liberal bubble and you 472 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 1: say you know that conservative speaker, you know whoever it 473 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 1: might be who came to campus, I don't think it 474 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 1: would do any harm to hear him out. You will 475 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: be savagely attacked within your circle. 476 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:40,880 Speaker 2: And that's the worst censorship. 477 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 4: Sure, plus with the fact that you care what those 478 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 4: people think. You don't care if you're being attacked by 479 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 4: the other side, but if you're attacked by your own 480 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 4: friends or bosses or teachers, you know that's uncomfortable. 481 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, you'll quickly be kicked into submission. 482 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 1: So Rich Lowry, who's a terrific writer, wrote a piece 483 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: for The New York Post there's a reason progressives don't 484 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: have their own Joe Rogan, because that's been kind of 485 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: a big conversation lately in circle. 486 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 4: It's hilarious the idea that came out of the election 487 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 4: that the left doesn't have enough of the media. 488 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 1: What are you talking about you're right, you really ought 489 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 1: to take a moment to smell the roses of the hilarity. 490 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 2: Of that notion. 491 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: We need, we need liberal media to fight back. What Yeah, 492 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: it's hilarious. And what a Lowry's questions is, could the 493 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: left really tolerate its own Joe Rogan or is that anyway? 494 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: Let me skip ahead to the Okay. 495 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 2: So. 496 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: Early missed all Ellie Mistall of the left wing nation 497 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 1: declared liberals need to build their own Joe Rogan. I 498 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: remember Air America, that great experiment in liberal talk radio 499 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 1: that we saw and some of our sister stations took 500 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 1: part in, and the company invested in a place came 501 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: and it went. But Lowry rights progressives are correct about 502 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,919 Speaker 1: the power of you know, podcasters, the bro podcasters, the 503 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,159 Speaker 1: new media, the intellectual dark web, whatever you want to 504 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: call it. But they don't understand how thoroughly anathema of 505 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: their ideology and cultural sensibility are to this kind of programming. 506 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 1: This is the point they could, like the Hairs campaign, 507 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: have a billion dollars to spend and still not be 508 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: able to create one semi popular bro podcaster. How is 509 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,239 Speaker 1: the Party of Policing what people say, to ensure that 510 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,719 Speaker 1: the discussion always stays within a narrow set of guardrails, 511 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 1: going to create or even tolerate the free wheelingly heterodox 512 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: media voices if they did, If the left did manage 513 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: to create a progressive Joe broken in a lab, as 514 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: soon as he said something controversial out in the wild, 515 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 1: he'd be anesthetized and subject to cancellation or anathematized, which 516 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,719 Speaker 1: is word I don't often see. That's exactly what happened 517 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 1: to well Joe Rogan. Before he was a Trump bro, 518 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: he was a Bernie bro. He's socially liberal, he's mocked 519 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 1: religion and is in no way a traditional Republican. But 520 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 1: the left turned on him with a vengeance because he 521 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: expressed controversial views on COVID and had a rogue rolist 522 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: virologist on the show. 523 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 2: As we did too. That's good. They don't get it 524 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 2: over here. 525 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: We disagree with each other all the time, and it's okay, 526 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: and it's interesting and it's fun and we learn and 527 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: we grow big. 528 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 2: Popular talk shows. 529 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: Even though you know, as we've joked for the longest time, 530 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: we get done with a segment and get a dozen 531 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 1: emails saying you suck. I'll never listen to you again. 532 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 1: You're too pro Trump and you suck. I'll never listen 533 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: to you again. You're too anti Trump based on the 534 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 1: same you know, screed. But that's fine. That's how you 535 00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: get what we do, so good luck. Grow it in 536 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: a lab ye far lefties. 537 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 4: Speaking of the COVID views some people had, I came 538 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 4: across this tweet yesterday, a bit of a throwback. Just 539 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 4: remember the government did more to stop the distribution of 540 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 4: ivermectin and hydrochloro queen than it did to stop the 541 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 4: distribution of fentanyl. 542 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 2: It does feel that way, doesn't it That. 543 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 4: There was more of an uprise of making sure nobody 544 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 4: took ivervectin or that hydro chloro queen stuff that Trump 545 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 4: talked about van fentanyl. 546 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: If you want to talk about marshaling up public opinion 547 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: to resist something. 548 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 2: And they creating fear around it. 549 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if it's literally true with the 550 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 1: DEA and the border patrol and stuff like that, but 551 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: now I see the point absolutely. 552 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 4: Another tweet I came across that I liked prank idea 553 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 4: give every person access to all the information in the world, 554 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 4: but don't teach them how to discern what's true. 555 00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 2: Ooh, I get it, I get it. Ooh oh. 556 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: So coming up, there's a poor, confused individual calls themselves 557 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: transgender elected to Congress, and a number of the ladies 558 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: in Congress are saying, don't want no wangs in our 559 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: locker rooms, et cetera. Are audio sheets here that have 560 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: all the clips that we might play. 561 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 2: During the show today. 562 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: That section cleverly labeled by Mike Hanson has no trans 563 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 1: in the cane, new transgender congress person. That controversy coming 564 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: up a little later on. 565 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, the rubber is going to meet the road on 566 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 4: the whole bathroom thing. They're gonna have to figure something out. 567 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 4: It might end up being the national policy. 568 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 2: Yep. That on the way Congress. 569 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 5: I'man Nancy Mace, a Republican from South Carolina, defending legislation 570 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 5: she introduced to try to change House rules to prohibit 571 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 5: transgender women and girls from using women's bathrooms and. 572 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 2: Facility on Capitol Hill. This is less than two. 573 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 5: Months before Congresswoman elects Sarah McBride, the first openly transgender 574 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 5: person ever elected to Congress, is scheduled to be sworn 575 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 5: into office. 576 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 7: It is you know, it's just disgusting. I don't understand 577 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 7: why Republicans are so obsessed with people's private parts. She's 578 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 7: going to do these exams herself. I mean, it is absurd. 579 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 7: We have real work to do here in the United 580 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 7: States Congress. 581 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 2: I think it's a very bigoted approach to the issue. 582 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 2: For a newbody in this. 583 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 1: Place is threatened by whatever bathroom an margin member from 584 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 1: Delaware chooses. 585 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 2: To walk into. 586 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 1: All right, So it's Republicans that are obsessed with people's genitals, 587 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 1: and that's a bigoted approach, says a man. No one 588 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: is threatened by a sponse in the girls room. Thank 589 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: you for pronouncing that and lecturing those stupid women to 590 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: keep their mouths shut. That's Representative Adam Smith of Washington. What. 591 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 4: First of all, I can't believe there'd be a very 592 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 4: large percentage of women nationwide who are okay with you know, 593 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 4: call yourself what you want, but if you have a 594 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,479 Speaker 4: penis being in the women's restroom, I gotta believe that 595 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 4: polls pretty overwhelmingly one direction, so to speak. 596 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 2: What I tried so hard? Wow? Really did wow? Katie? 597 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 2: Feel free to weigh in if you want. 598 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 4: I mean, you're a woman always does it bother you 599 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 4: to be in a women's room to know there's a 600 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 4: guy next door. 601 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 6: One hundred and fifty percent without a doubt, because you 602 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 6: don't know if that is a person who is actually 603 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 6: mentally ill dealing with this whole trans thing, or if 604 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 6: it's a predator in the women's restroom where guys usually 605 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 6: do not belong. As far as I know. 606 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 4: I suppose the I'm trying to steal man the other side, 607 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 4: I suppose the arment would be, well, you do know 608 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 4: who this person is. It's a not just anybody can 609 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 4: go into the congressional bathrooms and there's just one person, 610 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 4: you know, the an elected congress person. 611 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 2: They're not some. 612 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 4: You know, nobody predator that you have to wonder about, right, 613 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 4: I was speaking just in general. 614 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, but. 615 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, but again, I tell you what, Let's let this 616 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 1: dude in because he's wearing a dress and says he's 617 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: a girl. Now, so hey, come on, girls, just shut 618 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 1: up and take it. You don't want to be a bigot. 619 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 2: Do you know? I'm with JK. Rowling and other people. 620 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: No women's spaces are for women, period end of sentence. 621 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: And the Wall Street Journal, of all places, the journalists 622 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 1: uh Kathy Stetchferic and Xavier Xavier Martinez falling into the 623 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 1: trap that so many people do using the terminology of 624 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 1: radical gender theory in this article, you know, it would 625 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 1: prevent people whose birth sex was designated as male. 626 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 2: No, it wasn't designated, it was observed if. 627 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: You produce sperm your male, If you produce ov eggs, 628 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 1: you're a female period. And again, you want to present 629 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: any way you want, that's fine, but don't fall into 630 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 1: the trap of using the radical lefts terminology. 631 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 4: What bathroom do you want this person to use? 632 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 1: Well, that's where you get into if you're going to 633 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: go down the road as far as okay, transgender is 634 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 1: a thing as opposed to for you know a lot 635 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: of human history that was an issue to be worked out. 636 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: You got to go with likex one little unisex restroom 637 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 1: like you see in all the airports. 638 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, well that's what's going to happen. I was 639 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 4: going to say, I know how this is going to 640 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 4: be solved. All the bathrooms are going to be you know, 641 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 4: one whole bathrooms. 642 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 2: That's that's what sucks. 643 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 4: So instead of having a bathroom where you can have 644 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,399 Speaker 4: eight guys going there at once and speed things up. 645 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 4: You have to have everything be unit sex and one 646 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 4: person at a time. And that's why it is that 647 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 4: your Starbucks, er McDonald's, or your library are wherever you go. 648 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,720 Speaker 2: That's how they get around this problem and don't get sued. 649 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 1: So Nancy Mace of South Carolina proposed a resolution to 650 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,439 Speaker 1: prohibit House lawmakers and employees quote from using single sex 651 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 1: facilities other than those corresponding to their biological sex quote. 652 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 1: Biological men do not belong in private women's faces, period. 653 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 2: Period. I'm such a zealot on this topic. 654 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 1: I don't even use the term biological men because that 655 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,280 Speaker 1: employer implies that there are other. 656 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:26,400 Speaker 2: Sorts of men. There aren't. 657 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,839 Speaker 1: It's there are men and there are women. Of course, 658 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 1: it's defined by biology. There's no need to say that. 659 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 4: Well, they're going to solve this by going gender neutral bathrooms, 660 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,479 Speaker 4: So you can use whatever bathroom you want. And then girls, good, good, 661 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 4: get you get to enjoy the filthy filthy. 662 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:40,359 Speaker 6: Uh. 663 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,359 Speaker 4: Male, Now you're used to clean bathrooms because you girls 664 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 4: are cleaner. Now you get to enjoy dirty bathrooms because 665 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 4: there's gonna be guys going in your bathroom. 666 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 2: Uh sweet. 667 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 1: Marjorie MTG is down with Nancy May saying women in 668 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 1: women's bathrooms period. I'm glad this discussion is going to 669 00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:57,839 Speaker 1: be had. 670 00:35:58,360 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 2: I'll just say that. Yeah. 671 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 4: Like I said, I think I think I know how 672 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 4: they're gonna solve it. It's gonna be the way they solved 673 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,280 Speaker 4: it a most of the places I go, and it 674 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 4: sucks because it's just harder to get into the bathroom now. 675 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 4: They won't eliminate bathrooms like they've done a lot of 676 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,280 Speaker 4: places I go where they just plane eliminate the bathroom 677 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 4: to stay away from the from room. Armstrong and Getty