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Speaker 1: Minus T minus. I should say two weeks before training camp.

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Speaker 1: for all of your training camp details. Welcome back in

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Speaker 1: the studio. This is the official Cults podcast, brought to

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Speaker 1: you by When Bad. What's up, everybody? I'm Matt Taylor,

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Speaker 1: go to be back. Lara Obergen is here, Casey Valie

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Speaker 1: is here. JJ Stegovitz normally with us. He's on vacation

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Speaker 1: again this week. Guys. What's going on? Casey? I was

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Speaker 1: your fourth of July. Oh it was great.

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Speaker 3: You know it's one of those things where the fourth

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Speaker 3: right around the corner, so that that was right. I

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Speaker 3: showed you guys some pictures of my four activity, so.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, it was. I mean, I don't want you

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Speaker 1: can what I can remember. It was a good time,

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Speaker 1: you know. No, let's let's just say I was at

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Speaker 3: There were a handful of alcohol beverages that I were

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Speaker 3: down on it so hard, right, Yes, I mean it

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Speaker 1: But you know, like really like really.

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Speaker 3: no pizza. I'm still a little bitter about it. Larry,

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Speaker 3: You're right, but you know, it makes for a good story,

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Speaker 2: And to your point, just when we were listening to

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Speaker 2: a I N D Y like countdown is on to

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Speaker 2: It used to be Cincinnati exactly, and now Buffalo has

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Speaker 1: Buffalo in the summer. It's it's majestic. Yeah, I'm serious.

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Speaker 3: I mean there's nothing like sitting at four o'clock and

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Speaker 1: For sure. So nobody had anything on Shaq Leonard there.

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Speaker 1: Is Blank able to bounce back from last season? Shaq Leonard?

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Speaker 2: Your hypothesis, Shaquille Leonard? Is he able to bounce back?

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Speaker 2: And that's not really just from last season, that's the

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Speaker 1: Jim Mersey had this to say on Shaq Leonard yesterday

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Speaker 1: with Patt. He said, you know, I think, Shaq Leonard,

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Speaker 1: he's working hard. We'll see he's got a chance. He's

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Speaker 1: working really hard. He's getting a little bit better every day.

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Speaker 1: So I mean that right there. I mean, I know

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Speaker 2: I think that's a chance for everything. I think that's

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Speaker 2: a chance to you know, play during training camp. I

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Speaker 2: to be, especially when to your point from our first statement,

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Speaker 2: zone like these are huge opportunities and factors in which

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Speaker 2: He has not been able to be that contributor that

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Speaker 2: I mean, through no fault of his this is just

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Speaker 2: We have people within that linebacker room, Zaire Franklin. In

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Speaker 2: You've gotten more production on your defensive line. So there

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Speaker 2: are a lot of areas in which Shaq Leonard should

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Speaker 3: That's one of the things I think we all talked

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Speaker 3: So I do think that once Shack can get on

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Speaker 3: I think having the other weapons around him is really

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Speaker 3: That's just what he does well is take the ball away.

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Speaker 3: And I think having that, you know, not being asked

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Speaker 2: From it, and it's going to be interesting to see

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Speaker 1: Right, But from a mindset standpoint though, I mean going

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Speaker 1: You feel really good about the athleticism and the versatility

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Speaker 2: obviously you know, a different trajectory that they have each had,

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Speaker 1: Sure, and certainly what makes Leonard elite is that ability

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Speaker 1: to just get the football the football and football is everything.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah again, I know, I'm going how many captain obvious

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Speaker 1: Also this thing called the lineup scrimmage and the offense

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Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is from a mindset standpoint, casey,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Bobby Ocaarakay no longer here, It's EJ. Speed,

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Speaker 3: I think that's the way you kind of have to be,

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Speaker 1: All right, she had Shaq Leonard filling in the blank.

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Speaker 1: There do you go differently? I do. Mine's pretty obvious.

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Speaker 2: And a defense has to account for two runners exactly.

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Speaker 1: That's the biggest thing.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I'm not trying to we talk

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Speaker 1: All right, is Blank able to bounce back from last season?

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Speaker 1: despite what happened last season, all those pressures, the sixty

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Speaker 2: more with a lot less new voice in New York

436
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Speaker 2: than what he has inherited here in Indianapolis. There is

437
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Speaker 2: a ton of capital and a ton of investment in

438
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Speaker 2: that offensive line, much greater so than what he was

439
00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,800
Speaker 2: working with in New York, and you saw the incredible

440
00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:57,240
Speaker 2: season that they had last year with their offensive line,

441
00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:00,640
Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley, Daniel Jones, everyone that they had that offensive

442
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Speaker 2: contingent there.

443
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then the new guys, I mean Bernard Rayman,

444
00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,240
Speaker 1: Larry you talked to him in the offseason, you did

445
00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:07,880
Speaker 1: as well in case. I mean, he looks the part,

446
00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:09,919
Speaker 1: yes he does. He put on weight in all the

447
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:13,960
Speaker 1: right areas, the footwork, the conditioning. He looks the part.

448
00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,679
Speaker 1: And he's certainly looking to capitalize off the really strong

449
00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,760
Speaker 1: ending of his rookie season last year. It was last

450
00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,240
Speaker 1: nine games for him, those were strong. He didn't miss

451
00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,679
Speaker 1: any snaps down the stretch of last season, so I

452
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,560
Speaker 1: think he was able to kind of build up a

453
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Speaker 1: foundation gain some confidence there. So I'm just optimistic that

454
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Speaker 1: that offensive line group can rebound, take some pride in

455
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Speaker 1: what they're doing. Not that they certainly didn't before, but

456
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:39,479
Speaker 1: they just got a lot of pride and I think

457
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,160
Speaker 1: a little bit of a chip on their shoulder based

458
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Speaker 1: on what happened to him last year. You know, all

459
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Speaker 1: the negative connotation that was surrounding the Colts offensive line

460
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Speaker 1: and the media and certainly within the fan base towards

461
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 1: the end of last year. But you're right, Lair. I

462
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,880
Speaker 1: mean Tony Sperano junior new voice, you know, young guy,

463
00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,080
Speaker 1: high energy, can relate to these guys. He simplified some

464
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:03,720
Speaker 1: things with in the playbook, within the philosophies, their core principles.

465
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,600
Speaker 1: But I just think Anthony Richardson and Jonathan Taylor that

466
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Speaker 1: that's going to be the offensive line's best friends. Right.

467
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Speaker 1: But I will say that group needs to say stay healthy.

468
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,240
Speaker 1: That group needs to stay healthy because I mean, we'll see,

469
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,600
Speaker 1: but you do, you do have some unproven depth behind it.

470
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Speaker 1: I mean, now, I know you've got Blake Friedland, highly

471
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 1: touted draft pick, but at the end of the day,

472
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Speaker 1: still a rookie has never played an NFL game. We'll see,

473
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 1: He's inevitably going to be counted on to play somewhere

474
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,719
Speaker 1: either right tackle, left tackle, who knows, you know what

475
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:35,840
Speaker 1: happens knock on Wood with his team as far as

476
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Speaker 1: injuries are concerned. But the rest of that Colt's depth

477
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Speaker 1: along the offensive line, Casey, they have accounted for just

478
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:46,720
Speaker 1: eight career starts. Seven of those have come from Danny PAINTERNT. Yeah,

479
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 1: so we'll see what happens. There. All right, let's skip

480
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Speaker 1: down to number four we had. We had four, but

481
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Speaker 1: let's skip over number three because we kind of already

482
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Speaker 1: answered those a little bit just for context. I'll give

483
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Speaker 1: it to you, Casey. You answered it pretty well. I

484
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,639
Speaker 1: think with the cornerback it was is blank excuse me?

485
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 1: Will the Colts find an answer? At you said cornerback

486
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,359
Speaker 1: and quarterback? That's I think where we were all going

487
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,439
Speaker 1: to go there, Layra. Number four. The one thing people

488
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 1: shouldn't overlook with this Colts team I have too.

489
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Speaker 2: I kind of couldn't decide, and they've really been things

490
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 2: we've already touched on over the course of our conversation

491
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Speaker 2: to this point. I said people should overlook is the

492
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,919
Speaker 2: Colts defense. That was my first and you addressed that

493
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,640
Speaker 2: very well when we started this conversation, Met. And then

494
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 2: the other thing people should overlook is the run game,

495
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,199
Speaker 2: and that's what Casey touched on already. Those are my

496
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 2: kind of two headed monsters, so to speak, not to

497
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,679
Speaker 2: cop out and not be decisive, but I think we

498
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:45,239
Speaker 2: really well addressed already. These are all, you know, very

499
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Speaker 2: complimentary conversations. I think that we've had in.

500
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Speaker 3: Mine is actually the what you just talked about don't

501
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 3: overlook the offensive line, because, as you talked about, we're

502
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 3: just a handful of years removed from this team being

503
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Speaker 3: the best offensive line, arguably the best offensive line of football.

504
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Speaker 1: I'm starting to send some yeah, I think so, kind

505
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 1: of filling the blank on filling the blank, just kind

506
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 1: of rotatum mixing the match him. I'm with you. For me,

507
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit off the beaten path here. The

508
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 1: one thing that people shouldn't overlook with this Colts team

509
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 1: is for me, it's the wide receivers. I think once

510
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,360
Speaker 1: Josh Downs is healthy, he gives you something the Colts

511
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,639
Speaker 1: just really haven't had in their offense and quite some time.

512
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 1: Is that smaller, shifty, speedier possession type wide receiver right,

513
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 1: a lot of quickness in the slots and playmaking ability.

514
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 1: Isaiah Mackenzie can do that as well. Those two might

515
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Speaker 1: be splitting some time. We'll see where Downs is health

516
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 1: wise going into camp. He missed a lot of time

517
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,159
Speaker 1: during the offse He's a workout program. But the reason

518
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,440
Speaker 1: why I say Downs is that Mackenzie he's never really

519
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 1: been a mainstay in an offense during his six years

520
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 1: in the NFL. In fact, he's played more than just

521
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,199
Speaker 1: fifty percent of a team's offensive snaps just once and

522
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 1: that was last year. Okay, so we'll see where that is.

523
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 1: But obviously you really like Michael Pittman Junior. He's gonna

524
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Speaker 1: get a thousand yards next season, all right. If if

525
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 1: the Colts have anything close to quarterback consistency and availability

526
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 1: with the same guy, which again, knock on wood, hopefully

527
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 1: that happens, he's gonna get a thousand yards. The breakout

528
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 1: player is gonna be Alec Pierce. Alec Pierce because of

529
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Speaker 1: what Anthony Richardson can do in the passing game. Because

530
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Speaker 1: of what Alec Pierce can do going after contested catches,

531
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Speaker 1: stretching the field, test defenses vertically with his height and

532
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 1: his speed, He's going to be able to high point

533
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 1: some big plays in the passing game for the Colts.

534
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 1: Then you've got Ashton Dolan. He's back, he's healthy, he

535
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,360
Speaker 1: can play on special teams. Obviously the Colts prioritized him

536
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 1: in free agency. But I just think the wide receivers

537
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,719
Speaker 1: have nowhere to go but up, and I think quarterback

538
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 1: instability around them has contributed heavily to the wide receiver

539
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 1: numbers being less than ideal the last couple of.

540
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Speaker 3: Years, I think also, and this is just just seeing

541
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Speaker 3: athletes perform at the highest level.

542
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Speaker 1: These guys are so prideful.

543
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 3: Like you talked to Michael Pittman, and I don't think

544
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,959
Speaker 3: he once talked about the reasons he didn't reach his

545
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,640
Speaker 3: goals personally last year had nothing to do with the quarterbacks.

546
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Speaker 1: It was on him, you know.

547
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Speaker 3: He talked about I didn't get a hundred yard, I

548
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 3: didn't get a hundred s options, and it was because

549
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,439
Speaker 3: I dropped this, this, this, or I didn't get to this.

550
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,360
Speaker 3: So I think one of the things is they look

551
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,479
Speaker 3: at what they did last year and they all say, Okay,

552
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 3: you can go ahead and laugh at what we did

553
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:26,640
Speaker 3: last year, because we're gonna come out. We're gonna show

554
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,880
Speaker 3: you that we can take it to that next level.

555
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 3: So I agree with you, Matt. I. I have been

556
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Speaker 3: a little bullish on this, on this wide receiver group

557
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 3: because I think there are some kind of hidden gems

558
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 3: within this group that you put it all together and

559
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 3: it's gonna be a pretty good core.

560
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Speaker 1: Yeah, But it all starts with quarterback though, and that's

561
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Speaker 1: when we have to switch to the elephant in the room. Okay,

562
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 1: we try not to be two quarterbacks centric here, Leara,

563
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 1: but we gotta do what we gotta do.

564
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Speaker 2: Noteworthy though, before we get into our conversation about Anthony Richardson,

565
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Speaker 2: did you guys see the post from yesterday? This came

566
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Speaker 2: from This came from Reddit.

567
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 1: I have it.

568
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 2: I have it on my laptop. I'm flipping it around

569
00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 2: right now to be sure that you guys don't see it.

570
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 2: I don't know if the camera can pick it up.

571
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 2: But there is a post on Reddit, and I will

572
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 2: read this very quickly. This is from its Doctor Manhattan

573
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 2: and the title of the post is just met Ar.

574
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,919
Speaker 2: Sorry if this doesn't warrant a whole post lol, but

575
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 2: I'm so psyched and don't really have people to geek

576
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 2: out to. Just left forty five degrees, which is a

577
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 2: spot down on massf Is.

578
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 1: This a fan? I'm sorry? This is yes, this is

579
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 1: a guy?

580
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 2: Yes?

581
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 1: Yes?

582
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 2: Oh so do you not see the photo? So go

583
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 2: to your Twitter and.

584
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 1: Pull it up.

585
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 2: Okay, saw Ar scootering with his boys around the garage

586
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,919
Speaker 2: bottleworks area. It was so sick me. My girl and

587
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,479
Speaker 2: my newborn were out taking a stroll. She sees him

588
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 2: and points him out I'm like, holy crap. He circles

589
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,199
Speaker 2: back around and I figure I gotta say something, so

590
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 2: I talked to him. He stops. We chat real quick. No, bs,

591
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 2: I was literally wearing his jersey yesterday, and I mentioned

592
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 2: that as well as how I have faith in that

593
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,199
Speaker 2: ar Pittman JT connection. He was so into our convo,

594
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 2: despite the fact he probably hears similar things every day.

595
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 2: Eventually I ask for a pick and my girl asks

596
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,719
Speaker 2: him to hold our baby. He doesn't even hesitate. We

597
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 2: post for a pick and I just thank him, fully, starstruck.

598
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 2: This all happened like thirty minutes ago. He lived downtown.

599
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 2: He was just in awe. But this photo of.

600
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:20,679
Speaker 1: He doesn't look all that comfortable. It's adorable, but he's like,

601
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,120
Speaker 1: don't drop, don't drop, don't drop it taking a picture

602
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 1: of three to one. Hurry hurry hert God bless you, sir.

603
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 2: So it's just so great.

604
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 1: So although in fairness, when I was what twenty, I

605
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 1: wasn't holding the baby either. Oh no, right, well, I

606
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:35,640
Speaker 1: didn't know how to hold a baby.

607
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 3: I didn't hold a baby until I held mine, Is

608
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 3: that right? I was like, I don't want to be

609
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 3: if I dropped somebody.

610
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: Else's support the head. I mean, those are things you

611
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: don't know, right, yeah, I did, you don't know.

612
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 3: I was truly terrified, ever, because I was like, if

613
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 3: I dropped somebody else's baby, I were just holding the

614
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 3: baby and him to answer to like if I drop

615
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 3: my own baby, Like that's awful, But at least.

616
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Speaker 2: I just can't. I just can't wait till camp though,

617
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 2: when everyone's thrusting their babies.

618
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 1: Oh right, old baby. I love it.

619
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 2: So anyway, just a cool story that was just Monday

620
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 2: that that was posted. That was right downtown Indiana.

621
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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm reading right now, so yeah.

622
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,479
Speaker 2: So it was very fun little post. It's on all

623
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 2: of our Colts platforms.

624
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: I also saw he was hooping and Duncan at the

625
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 1: ymc A last night and I'm assuming that's where it was.

626
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: James Boyd does a great job covering the Colts for

627
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 1: the Athletic. Great guy. He had a post. I think

628
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: it was last night or maybe it was over the weekend.

629
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Speaker 1: He said he was playing some pickup basketball at the

630
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Speaker 1: yamc A. I'm not sure which YMCA, but uh, he

631
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 1: showed up on the court and Anthony Richardson was on

632
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: the other team that James Boyd was on.

633
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 2: Do you just wave the white flag?

634
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 1: But James's posting videos of Anthony Richardson like taking off

635
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: from like the foul line and just to hand slamming

636
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 1: it with authority, I do.

637
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 2: I pulled up. My gosh, there's.

638
00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 1: A future Colts cornerback just going around his back and

639
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 1: leaving you in the dust and dunking on your head

640
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: there posterizing James Boyd. I love James, but you got

641
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 1: no get off the tracks of the trains coming through James.

642
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: I mean, here's what's happening right now.

643
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 2: Do you okay? Is there any better way to endear

644
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 2: yourself to Indiana than just playing pickup basket show? Yeah?

645
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 2: Play pick up basketball and the.

646
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 1: Basketball guys you want to play? Yeah?

647
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 2: Okay. So, now, how many people between now and July

648
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,479
Speaker 2: twenty fifth are just gonna hang out at the YMCA.

649
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 1: With their baby, with their babies?

650
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 2: It's gonna say, hope Anthony walks in. So they're the

651
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 2: opportunity to you know, much like you ali to me earlier,

652
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 2: Matt Taylor.

653
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 1: It's what we do baby at the YMCA. Man, there's

654
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 1: some good stuff that happen. Always is good stuff always

655
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 1: absolutely all right. So we know Anthony Richardson, he's going

656
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: to be the main attraction at Colts Camp and uh, fans,

657
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 1: you were Matt and well maybe maybe he's one A.

658
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: Let's just let's just put it real, just like drug ego,

659
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 1: he's gonna be one A. Okay, who's gonna sign more

660
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 1: autographs at camp? It's it's closed, it's neck and neck

661
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 1: finished there. Uh but no, I mean it's gonna be

662
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 1: the first chance for fans to see him. Obviously reporters,

663
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: but you know that we're gonna get into the reporters

664
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: tracking not only every accuracy, but you know, playing time

665
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 1: split reps with Gardner Minshew, you know the percentages and

666
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 1: all that. So just get ready for that's what the

667
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: next you know, four or five weeks are going to

668
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: be about. Here. But what I want to do going

669
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: into camp with Richardson not to get new to nitpicky,

670
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: but this is kind of where we are in the

671
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: off season here, a couple of weeks before camp, Let's

672
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: let's talk about the areas of improvement for Richardson going

673
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 1: into camp based on what you saw in the spring.

674
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: So I got a couple of areas here here if

675
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 1: you will. So the first is footwork really in no

676
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 1: particular order, so footwork, decision making from the quarterbacks position,

677
00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: pocket awareness, and scheme masteries. So again footwork, decision making,

678
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: pocket awareness, scheme mastery. How would you rate those in order? Casey,

679
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: based on what you saw in camp and what needs

680
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: to be kind of fine tuned going into training camp,

681
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: I should say so.

682
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 3: I kind of took this as for us to kind

683
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 3: of watch him be ready to go for Sundays. I

684
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 3: went one decision making. I think that's going to be

685
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 3: the most important thing to work on. You got to

686
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 3: always make sure you're you're finding the right reads, reading

687
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 3: everything correctly.

688
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: I think that's the first step.

689
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,719
Speaker 3: And then I was back and forth between footwork and

690
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 3: pocket awareness. I went pocket awareness to footwork. Three those

691
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 3: are kind of interchangeable in my eyes. But I think

692
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 3: the scheme mastery I put that last. The only reason

693
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 3: why is I think as you continue to evolve, that

694
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 3: will just come in time in a way. So I

695
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 3: don't think right now we have to see him have

696
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 3: the scheme down entirely where he's like, you know, throwing

697
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 3: like Patrick Mahomes, where he's looking one way to do it.

698
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: I don't.

699
00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 3: We don't need to see that right now. I think

700
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 3: that is going to come in time. So I think

701
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 3: showing that you can process and make the decisions correctly,

702
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 3: you're aware of where you are within the pocket, your footwork,

703
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 3: and then the scheme. That's kind of the way that

704
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 3: I rate it. If if I was going on through four.

705
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: All right, Lara, any variance there just a.

706
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 2: Little bit, I had a similar debate, So I went

707
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 2: scheme mastery one. Actually, I understand your point on you know, reps,

708
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 2: and I'm all right, I did scheme mastery number one

709
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 2: because to me, that's one of the things you can

710
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 2: spend the most time in the off season is studying greed,

711
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 2: being in the playbook, you know, immersing yourself in learning

712
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 2: that scheme. You know that takes no work with teammates,

713
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 2: it doesn't, you know, it's all of those things where

714
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 2: the limitations that you have in the off season, it

715
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 2: affords you immense time to purely just spend in the

716
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 2: playbook and learning the scheme that you have. Also, of course,

717
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 2: he's spending time with Gardner Minshew their training in the

718
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 2: same facility or have been at certain points this offseason,

719
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 2: so that was to me number one, because if he

720
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 2: walks in and can exemplify knowledge of the playbook, I

721
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 2: think that is going to give him immense confidence in

722
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,879
Speaker 2: all those other areas. So to me, decision making number two,

723
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 2: pocket awareness number three. I put footwork number four because

724
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 2: to me, I think we saw some really strong aspects

725
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 2: of footwork and the number of drills and different things

726
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 2: that they went through so far through the mini camp

727
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 2: period and the OTAs. So that was kind of how

728
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 2: I ranked it all.

729
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: It's funny. It's there's three different people talking about the

730
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,479
Speaker 1: same thing or the same individual, and we all see

731
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 1: things differently. Because I don't think you're wrong. I don't

732
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 1: think you're wrong. I don't think I'm wrong either, based

733
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: on what I saw in the spring. So if I'm

734
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: rating them, I'm going footwork number one. Okay, footwork number one,

735
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 1: decision making, and then I'm going to amend it a

736
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: little bit because it's my list. I can do what

737
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: I want. Okay, get out of here. Shocker, that's tick

738
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: going rogue. But I would say decision making in parentheses

739
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: in the red zone for Anthony Rich then I would

740
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: put scheme mastery, and then I would put pocket awareness

741
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,879
Speaker 1: and footwork number one, because I mean the first thing

742
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 1: we heard from Shane Steichen after rookie Mini caamp was

743
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 1: that Richardson's footwork needs altering, not true improvement, but it

744
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 1: needs altering because he didn't do a whole lot of

745
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: five step drops in college, right, It was a lot

746
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: of three step It was a lot of you know,

747
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,280
Speaker 1: just that that typical pros or excuse me, that college

748
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,800
Speaker 1: style Saturday offense where you're getting rid of the football quickly.

749
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 1: So he needed to alter his ability and his rhythm

750
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 1: in the five step drop game here at the professional level.

751
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: So that continues to you know, not again, I hate

752
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 1: to say the word improvement, but it just needs to

753
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 1: be more refined and worked on. And the more experience

754
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: you get, the better you're going.

755
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 2: To be at during its pretty dang good there at

756
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:50,280
Speaker 2: the Erse City Way YMC.

757
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 1: He was jumping off both those puppies right five slam

758
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: of jama But then the decision making was good in

759
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,720
Speaker 1: the mini camp. But again in the red zone that's

760
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: where again Shane Stikeen at the end of the Veteran

761
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: Mini camp said, it's the red zone that's the next

762
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,879
Speaker 1: area of growth and improvement for Anthony Richardson, and that

763
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,720
Speaker 1: is when the game is even faster, the windows shrink,

764
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: the field shrinks, teams are hitting you, are heating you up.

765
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 2: On that and that's when you need Michael Pittman Jr.

766
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:21,839
Speaker 2: That's where you need Alec Pierce. That's when you need

767
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 2: those big playmakers. That is where those guys eat is

768
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 2: in the red zone, and you didn't have those. So

769
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 2: I just it's almost like a little astisk.

770
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,760
Speaker 1: So you did you know? Yeah you did see, of course,

771
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: no doubt. And I do think all of that led

772
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: to some unevenness out of Richardson in those simulated two

773
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: minute you know, those red zone drills in OTA's in

774
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: the mini camp. And the last for me, I mean,

775
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 1: scheme mastery. That's gonna come with just more time on

776
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 1: task and experience. But the last thing for me, which

777
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 1: I think he's pretty good at, is pocket awareness. Yeah.

778
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,280
Speaker 1: I would rate that last. I mean if you watched

779
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: his games in Florida, which I didn't do live, but

780
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 1: going back during the draft process, you go back and

781
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 1: watch the highlights and you watch tape. He does have

782
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: a good feel for the pocket. He doesn't even though

783
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,879
Speaker 1: he is an athletic freak. We all know that he

784
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: doesn't rely on that in the pocket. He will sit

785
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 1: in there and make good decisions in the pocket and

786
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,879
Speaker 1: hang in there and deliver a throw when he needs

787
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: to and take a hit. But he does have a

788
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,399
Speaker 1: good feel in a presence. I think Casey of being

789
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: able to understand when it's necessary to leave the pocket

790
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 1: and then just go be Anthony Richardson, which is just

791
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 1: a freak athlete baller.

792
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 3: I think that's one of the things that you talk

793
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 3: about the draft process, and that's all of these I

794
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 3: kind of go back to that whole draft process and

795
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 3: it was footwork and all of this stuff. But one

796
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 3: of the things that it continued to be harped about

797
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 3: is how calm he was inside the poet. It just

798
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 3: felt it's like almost his comfort zone was kind of

799
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 3: staying in the pocket, being.

800
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: Able when the Colts did a really good job of that.

801
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: They've been highlighting that this entire time. Yet, you know,

802
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: with the dummies like they had personnel during practice, even

803
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: during seven on seven Lera, you had the practice dummies

804
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: in his face simulating, you know, hands up by defensive

805
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 1: linemen just knowing when to break the pocket. When to

806
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 1: or how to alter the arm angles. You know how

807
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,760
Speaker 1: to deliver the ball over the middle to these guys,

808
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: you know in all drills, in every phase of practice there.

809
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: But it's not going to be perfect with Anthony Richardson,

810
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 1: far from amy. Everybody knows that, including Colts owner Jim

811
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: Mersay again joining the Pat McAfee show earlier this week.

812
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: This was his quote on Anthony Richardson from Jim Mersay says,

813
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: for Anthony, it's going to be tough, we know that,

814
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 1: but he has to play to get better. There's no

815
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: question about that. Gardner Minshew could come out and obviously

816
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: play better early on just being a veteran, but we

817
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: have to get Anthony on the field. That Shane Steichen's

818
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,439
Speaker 1: call when he decides to do that. So I don't

819
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: think that's a guarantee from the Colts owner that richards

820
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 1: is going to play in Week one and be the

821
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,240
Speaker 1: starter all season no matter what, just because we drafted

822
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: him fourth overall. But I think Casey, again, we've been

823
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,320
Speaker 1: talking about this for the last four months since April.

824
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: Everyone agrees that the more he plays and the more

825
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: experience he gets right, the earlier he gets on his path.

826
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: To reaching his full potential in his full ceiling with

827
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 1: the Colts.

828
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 3: I go back to what you mentioned when he was drafted,

829
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 3: he had such little sample size and you had said,

830
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 3: just imagine what he would have done if he went

831
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 3: back to college.

832
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean just by playing, just.

833
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 3: By playing does no matter what, just by playing, how

834
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 3: much better? And that is that evaluation would have been.

835
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:25,959
Speaker 3: So that's that's the key we've I mean, as you mentioned,

836
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 3: we've been talking about that at nauseum for months, that

837
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 3: the only way he's going to get better is to

838
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 3: get out there, time on task, as you always mentioned.

839
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 3: So that is one of the things that I know

840
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 3: Jim Mersey, he remembers what happened when you had eighteen

841
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 3: and he went out there and threw, you know, led

842
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 3: the league, led the most interceptions by a rookie ever.

843
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 3: And I mean this guy's arguably the goat. So you

844
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 3: he's seen it how you have to let these guys develop.

845
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 3: So I think it was smart what he said. He

846
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 3: never he didn't go ahead and say, yeah, week one,

847
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 3: it's gonna be Anthony Richardson, but he gave you that

848
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 3: illusion that, you know what, we're all aware that the

849
00:39:58,440 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 3: only way this guy is gonna get better.

850
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 1: Is out there in place, no doubt about it. Casey

851
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 1: Value right there, Lara Overton. All right, it's a staple

852
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: here on the podcast. As we close out last day

853
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 1: random thought, oh week, and.

854
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 2: Why is the carpet old wet Todd?

855
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,399
Speaker 1: I don't know, Marco. You guys going out of town.

856
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 2: Do you know if it's cold there for these vans? Get

857
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 2: good gas Milin, shut up.

858
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: Shut up, shut up, shot shut up. All right, So

859
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,839
Speaker 1: Larra Overton decides to go on vacation and then just

860
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 1: randomly sign up. Perfect segue here in the random I'm

861
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 1: gonna randomly sign up for a five k go out there.

862
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 1: I'm sure you got like three hours of sleep the

863
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 1: night before you go out there. Lara at ten in

864
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 1: the morning running a five k, who finishes first? Lara?

865
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 1: Lara Overton had some no name town in Wisconsin. Lara

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Speaker 1: Overton is now. She now has her picture up in

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Speaker 1: the local dairy queen. Well done. She's in the newspaper. Congratulations,

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00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 1: here's a deli bar.

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Speaker 2: You know it's Wisconsin, so it's like, congratulations on her victory.

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Speaker 2: Here's some.

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Speaker 1: There's a gift cardsive that was fantastic, So congratulations on

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Speaker 1: your day, you guys.

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Speaker 2: It was really fine.

874
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Speaker 1: It was this you had another trophy, Monocual Winter.

875
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Speaker 2: Park, so where it's where they ski and snowshoe. So

876
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 2: the terrain was a bit more rugged and it's much

877
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 2: deeper incline than I was anticipating. So I had to

878
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Speaker 2: dig deep going back to like my you know, cross

879
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 2: country days to find the fortitude to endure the three

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Speaker 2: point one.

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Speaker 1: We know you have the fortitude.

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00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 2: So I can run.

883
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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna make is this my random gonna make myself.

884
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna make myself feel really bad about myself, Lara,

885
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,720
Speaker 1: My my mile is like nine and a half minutes.

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Speaker 2: That's not bad. You can run a mile though. That's

887
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Speaker 2: the thing is like.

888
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: Where you at time wise?

889
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,760
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't really do feel.

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00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 1: That's what I mean.

891
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 2: I don't do a lot of actually like ten minutes,

892
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 2: are you talking like one all out mile? Are you

893
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 2: talking like just I'm going out for three to four

894
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 2: mile run?

895
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 1: And what was the pace at the five k?

896
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Speaker 2: Well, it was hard because it's a lot of uphill

897
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 2: and it's it's trails and all of that. So I

898
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Speaker 2: don't even know what like the pace was because it's

899
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Speaker 2: you're raising for place, not pace. You know, if I

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Speaker 2: go out for a run now, my average mile is

901
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Speaker 2: probably about seven fifteen.

902
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: Cleving me in the dust. Yeah, at two minutes. Doesn't

903
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Speaker 1: sound like a lot, but it is.

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Speaker 3: Man, Man, I was like strong when I was in

905
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:35,359
Speaker 3: high school. Like the peak, my peak athletic itself, which

906
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 3: was never very peak. I mean I was booking it

907
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Speaker 3: to get a seven fifteen.

908
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 2: Now I'll go get on the treadmill. If I go one,

909
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 2: I mean I can be somewhere in a five thirty to.

910
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 1: Five five five minutes mile.

911
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 2: Well, that's a big drop off my peak.

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Speaker 1: I understand. What was your peak was? Oh my four minutes.

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Speaker 1: I can't even this is I can't even heat a

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Speaker 1: in four minutes. Wow, Larah, that's unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: Wow, not four minutes. That's for forty So like.

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Speaker 1: As a fornt, mine's like seven eight. That was when

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Speaker 1: I was big. Mine's like twelve.

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Speaker 2: Well done, who thank you, mabell, appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Let's get random. What do you got?

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00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 2: So I had this thought today? So they were our

921
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,800
Speaker 2: garbage goes out on Tuesdays and Wednesday.

922
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: All right, So I'm on the Tuesday.

923
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 2: I slept in I'm still getting on my vacation plan.

924
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 2: So I was, I was still in bed. I was

925
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 2: kind of awake when when the garbage truck came by.

926
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Speaker 2: So heard the garbage come by. I have and this consistent, irrational,

927
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Speaker 2: recurring fear that I have always thrown something of value

928
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 2: away in the garbage when the garbage truck comes. Okay, Like,

929
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Speaker 2: so I always immediately hear the garbage truck and I

930
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Speaker 2: start like, okay, where's my wedding ring?

931
00:43:59,320 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 2: This in that case just like inventory, like I'm you know,

933
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Speaker 2: So I go downstairs this morning and I can't find

934
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Speaker 2: my wallet, and my immediate thought is my wallet's in

935
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Speaker 2: the garbage because republic service waste management, you know, because

936
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Speaker 2: and my I had that fear because I went to

937
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Speaker 2: the grocery store and just took my wallet in, and

938
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Speaker 2: I always dropped my wallet in my grocery bag. And

939
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Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, what if the wallet went

940
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 2: in the grocery bag and went That's where my mind goes,

941
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Speaker 2: rather than just checking my purse where I put it away.

942
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Speaker 1: So you're halfway down the street, right, do you all.

943
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 2: Have any sort of rickcurring, irrational fear that strikes you

944
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,240
Speaker 2: that way. I mean mine is weakly like the trash

945
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Speaker 2: comes and I am immediately like inventorying like everything, Like

946
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 2: do you have something like that that happens, like some

947
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 2: sort of of fear in you for no good reason,

948
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 2: but just something that pops up, you know, like a

949
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 2: fear of like over sleeping, you're missing a fly like

950
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:02,879
Speaker 2: anything like those things.

951
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: I'm always fearful that I'm gonna lose my wedding ring.

952
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 1: And I mean I've had this thing for what ten

953
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:11,959
Speaker 1: years now? And how I've never lost this thing because

954
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,839
Speaker 1: I take it off when I sleep, I take it off,

955
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 1: when I do yard work, I take it off like

956
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,879
Speaker 1: when I go swimming. And how I've never lost this

957
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,760
Speaker 1: thing or misplaced it is it is a minor miracle, wow,

958
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 1: because I am a very forgetful person like I I

959
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: don't lose things often. I just forget where they are

960
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:31,720
Speaker 1: and I have to go search.

961
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 2: I forget, but I forget things like I'm a little

962
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 2: scattered brain. You know you've traveled. You've traveled with me,

963
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 2: you know this, Like I always am like like like

964
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 2: I will do the oh, where's my cell phone? And

965
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 2: it's like in my hand or something. You know, I

966
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 2: have that happen a lot.

967
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 1: Also, not to gross you out, but on the whole

968
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 1: trash thing, like throwing things away, I don't know if

969
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: I should tell the story or not, but I guess

970
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: I guess I'm in too deep. You've opened the can

971
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 1: of worms now. But as a kid, I had terrible teeth.

972
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 2: Oh, you threw your retainer away.

973
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: Oh I threw my retainer away in grade school, probably

974
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 1: twelve times. And you I had to go rummage through

975
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,919
Speaker 1: trash like I got Taylor was not paid.

976
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 2: I got one of those things.

977
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: He's and milk and carrots man and the square pizza

978
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 1: all over this thing and I'm just rinsing it out,

979
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 1: just incessantly, like it's just oh yeah, it's covered in

980
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: pineapple juice. Yeah, disgusting. I don't know if I should

981
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 1: have told that story or not. But I had braces

982
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 1: from second grade to freshman year in high school. Did

983
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: you really? Yeah? I was.

984
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 2: You're orthodontist has a vacation house.

985
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:37,959
Speaker 1: Yea, yeah, he hears you on the radio. Was like somewhere. Yeah,

986
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: I paid for something pretty elaborate. I do know that,

987
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 1: but yeah, sorry, I didn't mean to gross you out.

988
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 2: Oh that's fine, tast Do you have any recurring irrational fears?

989
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 1: So?

990
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 3: So mine is it's bills, if that makes sense, Like

991
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 3: ge didn't pay a bill? Yes, So I have auto

992
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 3: pay set up for almost all of my bills because

993
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 3: in my mind, and I'll check my bank account like

994
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 3: six times during the day. I've got this weird habit,

995
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 3: like it's a bad obsession, like constantly on the stick around.

996
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait a minute, did you go to this?

997
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 3: It's bad, but I do that, especially with my mortgage,

998
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 3: Like I know it comes out on the tenth of

999
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,439
Speaker 3: every month, so like the ninth and the tenth, I'm like, oh, man,

1000
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 3: did I did I set up auto PAYM Like yeah,

1001
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 3: I did five months ago, or like you know, we've

1002
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 3: only been at this house for a year. I'm like,

1003
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 3: a year ago, I set this up. In every month,

1004
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 3: I'm like, it came out, so I set it up.

1005
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 3: I don't know why that is the one that every month.

1006
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 1: I look, well, listen, man, you got the digital hacking aige.

1007
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 2: Anybody like kind of have a thing. Maybe I'm just

1008
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 2: a paranoid person, but sometimes like I'll go through TSA

1009
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:41,879
Speaker 2: or something and I'm like worried that, like they're gonna

1010
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 2: pull me aside and be like, man, I'm you're a

1011
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 2: fire risk, Like I like, for some reason, I would just.

1012
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 1: Because your flight takes off in twelve minutes. When you're

1013
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 1: going through security, you are a later.

1014
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 3: Wait, let's be honest, like, do you ever get that feeling?

1015
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 3: Like I had this feeling last night? We had there

1016
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:58,799
Speaker 3: was a police officer that I don't know. I don't

1017
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 3: know if he was just neighborhood walk. They circled our

1018
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 3: street four times and I was with a group of

1019
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 3: people and I looked over at one of the guys

1020
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 3: said did you do something this week? Because I'm reach,

1021
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 3: I'm thinking back to everything I had my fourth of

1022
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 3: July incident, so I'm like, did I do anything?

1023
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: I'm like freaking out because this cop is carried circling

1024
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 1: three hour window when things were blurry case, I'm like, man,

1025
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 1: did you guys do anything that's questionable? Because I don't know.

1026
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 2: It's like, dude, where's my co Exactly.

1027
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 3: Every time I see a cop circling, I'm like, okay,

1028
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:32,760
Speaker 3: let's retrail.

1029
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 1: Let's retra. Look back at everything I did. Okay, I

1030
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 1: stayed within the line right good love it, good random

1031
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 1: thought right there, Larah. We all have our things, right,

1032
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 1: we all have our things. Speaking of things, check out

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Speaker 1: the person behind the Pads that is the podcast and

1034
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Speaker 1: off the field personal conversation with the Colts players and

1035
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 1: head coaches. So lately we had interviews with Jonathan Taylor,

1036
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,879
Speaker 1: Julian Blackman, getting to know them, what makes them tick,

1037
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 1: off the field, getting to know their personalities, and also

1038
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: head coach Shane stike and so check all of that

1039
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: out now on the Colts Audio networking.

1040
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 2: Shane Stikeen has a great one about being fifteen years

1041
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 2: old and forced to drive a car.

1042
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 1: Yes he does. We don't want to ruin that story,

1043
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,359
Speaker 1: but that is in there. That is that is.

1044
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,280
Speaker 2: An ugly available, a young underage.

1045
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 1: Doing things you shouldn't be doing. He just that's when

1046
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: you look at your buddies and say I got pedals,

1047
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 1: I got pedals. I'll take the pedals, you take the wheel.

1048
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 1: We'll make this work. Right, We've all been there too. Also,

1049
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,839
Speaker 1: the Colts Reunion podcasts are out uh this week. Our

1050
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 1: guest is former Colts running back and Hall of Famer

1051
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 1: Edgerrin James. So he's going to discuss growing up in

1052
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 1: South Florida, why he went to Miami, why he was

1053
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 1: the perfect fit in Indianapolis, paying playing with Peyton Manning

1054
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 1: and Marv and reg and what it meant to finally

1055
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 1: go into the Pro Football Hall of Fame and Canton

1056
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:54,800
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty. We also have had conversations with Dallas Clark,

1057
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 1: Adavinitary Anthony Gastanzo in week's past, So check all of

1058
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 1: that out again on the Colts Audio Network this week.

1059
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:03,359
Speaker 1: The last word is back myself and the Gore Man.

1060
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 1: We're taking a look at the secondary, going back to

1061
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,760
Speaker 1: what you talked about earlier, Casey, where do the Colts

1062
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:13,399
Speaker 1: find stability and playmaking ability at corner going into training camp?

1063
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:17,280
Speaker 1: So we'll talk about that. That's it. That's it, guys.

1064
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 1: Anything else? What does the rest of your summer here

1065
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 1: look like? You got two weeks Casey before training camp

1066
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: is on you and then life is over. At least

1067
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 1: for the most part, life is over. Your weekends have evaporated. Yea,

1068
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 1: So what are you doing? How are you going out

1069
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 1: with a bang here?

1070
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 3: You know, we've already kind of done all the stuff

1071
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 3: we had planned. It's now just enjoying the time with

1072
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 3: the kiddos.

1073
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Speaker 4: It's it.

1074
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Speaker 1: I mean, I knock on wood.

1075
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Speaker 3: It seems like every day I go home and it's

1076
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Speaker 3: nice and we can play outside and it stays light

1077
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Speaker 3: until like nine thirty, So bedtimes have been out the window.

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Speaker 3: Like they start school in early August, so I'm like,

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Speaker 3: you know what they've got, They've got a month to

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Speaker 3: kind of get back into a routine. Like, you know,

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Speaker 3: it's nine thirty, who cares play for another forty five minutes.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be nice out.

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Speaker 3: So that's kind of what my plans are is just

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Speaker 3: enjoying the time with the fams.

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Speaker 2: In second, one more little trip, we're gonna go up

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Speaker 2: to Toronto to celebrate my husband's birthday and have a

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Speaker 2: couple of days up there. Yeah, so we'll do that.

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Speaker 1: God God bless you. Safe travels right there, all right.

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Speaker 1: For Larra Overton, Casey Valier, I'm Matt Taylor. Thanks again

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Speaker 1: as always for listening to the Official Colts Podcast, brought

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Speaker 1: a great rest of your week and we'll talk to

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Speaker 1: you again next Tuesday. Here are the Colts Audio Network.

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Speaker 1: So long, everybody,