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<v Speaker 1>Will Lucas here, Black Tech, Green Money. I'm super excited

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<v Speaker 1>to be back with you guys. I want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about a couple of things today started the first start

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<v Speaker 1>off talking about afro Tech, getting to some news and

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<v Speaker 1>then the conversation. But afro Tech twenty twenty three back

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<v Speaker 1>in Austin just a couple of weeks. We are less

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<v Speaker 1>maybe three weeks away. Two weeks away from afro Tech

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty three in Austin, Texas. I am excited because

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<v Speaker 1>the schedule just dropped and it includes, you know, performances

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<v Speaker 1>by Jadakiss, Rick Ross. I am personally the music I

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<v Speaker 1>listen to mostly like if it's hip hop, if it's

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<v Speaker 1>rap music, I am listening to hustling music. So I

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<v Speaker 1>care about rap music that makes me feel like I

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<v Speaker 1>want to go get a bag and like, So that's

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<v Speaker 1>like Nipsey Hustle, that's jay Z. Obviously it's Rick Ross

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<v Speaker 1>and Rick Ross. I am already brushing up on my

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<v Speaker 1>Rick Ross lyrics so that I am to turn it

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<v Speaker 1>out at afro Tech this year. And so I'm hopeful

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<v Speaker 1>that you guys will join me in having the time

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<v Speaker 1>of my life, having the time of your lives, having

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<v Speaker 1>the time of our lives at afro Tech. This year

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be big. And every year I leave

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<v Speaker 1>afro Tech wondering how we could ever top the year

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<v Speaker 1>before the time we just had, How can we top it?

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<v Speaker 1>And I am super excited for the work that the

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<v Speaker 1>team has done because this stage is set to be incredible,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I hope to see you there. We've got

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<v Speaker 1>talks like, if you're raising money, you should be there

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<v Speaker 1>because there's a conversation happening around VC trends for twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four proactive strategies for fundraising. My guy Marlon Nichols

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be on that panel. He's co founder

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<v Speaker 1>and managing partner at mac Venture Capital. Henri Jacques, Henri

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<v Speaker 1>Pierre Jacques, who's co founder and managing partner of Harlem Capital.

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<v Speaker 1>He will be there speaking on this subject in this

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<v Speaker 1>conversations moderated by Aaron Samuels, who's one of the co

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<v Speaker 1>founders of Blavity, which founded afro Tech, and he's also

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<v Speaker 1>a founder and managing partner at Collide Capital. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you are raising money or you will be, it's important

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<v Speaker 1>to know how VC's a thinking and which verticals they're

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<v Speaker 1>paying attention to and so you need to be in

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<v Speaker 1>that conversation. Also, Robert Smith will be there, billionaire, black billionaire.

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<v Speaker 1>He's talking about creating a shared digital future, powering forward.

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<v Speaker 1>So he is chairman and chief executive officer of Visa

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<v Speaker 1>Equity Partners. He's the guy a couple of years ago

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<v Speaker 1>paid off all the college debt for the guys at

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<v Speaker 1>Morehouse and so he's going to be at AFRO Tech

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<v Speaker 1>this year talking about what he sees opportunities for black

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<v Speaker 1>innovators and how you can scare your ideas. One of

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<v Speaker 1>the things that I love about here and Robert talk

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<v Speaker 1>is how he's always pushing a to think bigger. And

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes we don't even realize we're not thinking big enough

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<v Speaker 1>about the opportunities in front of us. But he issues

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<v Speaker 1>that challenge and he starts to prode you on how

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<v Speaker 1>you can think about your thing a hundred times bigger

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<v Speaker 1>than you may be thinking about it today. So what

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<v Speaker 1>if your journey is an entrepreneurial one and it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's based on you. Whether it's a lifestyle brand

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<v Speaker 1>and so sometimes we think lifestyle brands can't be big businesses.

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<v Speaker 1>We think lifestyle brands are just ones that we work

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<v Speaker 1>personally day in and day out, and it might do

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<v Speaker 1>six figures, it might do seven figures. But lifestyle brands

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<v Speaker 1>can actually be pretty big. So we're gonna be talking

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<v Speaker 1>about that. If you're going to be an afrotech and

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<v Speaker 1>you're an entrepreneur, and maybe you're not trying to build

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<v Speaker 1>the next Facebook, but maybe your brand is built around

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<v Speaker 1>you as an individual. So there's talks about that. Whether

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<v Speaker 1>you're trying to get a board seat, there's conversations about

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<v Speaker 1>that about people who sit on boards and who put

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<v Speaker 1>people on boards. They will be on the stage at

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<v Speaker 1>afro Tech. If you're managing remote teams, their talks there

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<v Speaker 1>for you at afro Tech this year, and the big

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<v Speaker 1>conversation of the day is AI. I'm sure in almost

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<v Speaker 1>every conversation that we have at Afrotech this year, AI

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<v Speaker 1>will come up because it's that disruptive to our norm.

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<v Speaker 1>So I guarantee there's something there for you. And one

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<v Speaker 1>of the things I try to stress when I'm talking

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<v Speaker 1>to anybody about afro Tech is sometimes people think because

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<v Speaker 1>they're not directly working in a technology related role. If

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<v Speaker 1>you are using technology to perform your duties at work,

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<v Speaker 1>you should be at afro Tech because whether you're working

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<v Speaker 1>in healthcare, whether you're working in law, whether you are

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<v Speaker 1>working in sports entertainment, you are utilizing technology to power

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<v Speaker 1>your work, and so it's important that you're in the

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<v Speaker 1>room where the conversations are being had that can in

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<v Speaker 1>many ways dictate the future of your role. So highly

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<v Speaker 1>encourage you to be at afro Tech this year getting

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<v Speaker 1>some new It is notoriously hard to get a true

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<v Speaker 1>Kangnac and it has he made in a certain region

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<v Speaker 1>in France, the Cognac region. So shout out to Faughn Weaver,

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<v Speaker 1>founder of Uncle Nearest. So look, Hennessy is by far

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest distiller of cognac and they account for like

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<v Speaker 1>almost half of all cognac production. I think it's like

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<v Speaker 1>forty six percent. Then there's like Martel, there's Remy Martin

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<v Speaker 1>and Covasier, which like are started in like eighteen o nine,

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<v Speaker 1>so they've been around for two hundred plus years. Uncle

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<v Speaker 1>Nears is now the young gun and according to a

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<v Speaker 1>press release they sent to afro Tech Fawn Weaver, they

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<v Speaker 1>just acquired domain Saint Martin in the state, which encompasses

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<v Speaker 1>over one hundred acres with Charente River frontage and a

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<v Speaker 1>unique island. Furthermore, it's fifty acres are dedicated to Grant

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<v Speaker 1>Shan Paying Vineyards make it Kanyacs Citi's crown jewels. So

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<v Speaker 1>Kanyac City is a place in France where kannac is made.

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<v Speaker 1>They're made Kanyak is made from a much more delicate,

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<v Speaker 1>like seasonal raw material grapes, so and that distillation period

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<v Speaker 1>is like super duper short, so like they got five

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<v Speaker 1>months every year to make kanyac. It's hard to make

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<v Speaker 1>and therefore it's like expensive, and so it is a

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<v Speaker 1>status symbol, you know, because it's priced in the way

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<v Speaker 1>that it's you know, ability to be made dictates. It's

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<v Speaker 1>really hard to do and kanyak makes up like less

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<v Speaker 1>than one percent of the world's spirits by volume. And

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<v Speaker 1>so the fact that there's now a black owned kanyak

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<v Speaker 1>coming to market is very, very exciting. So shout out

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<v Speaker 1>to farn Weaver and the work her and her team

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<v Speaker 1>at Uncle Near's are doing. Sony Group wants to put

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<v Speaker 1>money into African entertainment startups. A lot of people who

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<v Speaker 1>listen to this podcast are on the content, so shout

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<v Speaker 1>out to you, especially if you are building something in

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<v Speaker 1>the gaming, music, film content distribution space, Sony Innovation Fund

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<v Speaker 1>wants to fund you, and they're putting ten million dollars

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<v Speaker 1>of capital in that fund to deploy two startups, particularly

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<v Speaker 1>ones in South Africa, Kenya, Nigeria, and Ghana. Last year,

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<v Speaker 1>according to Partech Africa, the venture capital that was spent

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<v Speaker 1>or deployed into African entertainment startups equaled about zero point

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<v Speaker 1>nine percent of the continent's total venture capital investments. And

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<v Speaker 1>Jen Toshikawa, who's CEO of Sony Ventures, believes that there

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<v Speaker 1>is an untapped potential for African creators, entrepreneurs and teams

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<v Speaker 1>and that there's a growing adoption of technology that is

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<v Speaker 1>developed on the content. So if you are in that space,

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<v Speaker 1>or or if you have an idea to get into

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<v Speaker 1>that space, now is a good time to get your

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<v Speaker 1>wheels going because the set date for distribution of that

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<v Speaker 1>ten million dollars into African entertainment startups is pending. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if you stay ready, you ain't got to

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<v Speaker 1>get ready. This conversation about Africa and so many African

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<v Speaker 1>companies and things from the African culture, whether that be

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<v Speaker 1>afrobeats or otherwise, they are now starting to come to

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<v Speaker 1>mainstream here domestically in the United States. And it's so

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<v Speaker 1>interesting to me because what that says to me about

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<v Speaker 1>what's happening back on the continent is that there's more

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity for people to be able to do things that

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<v Speaker 1>can be exported to the world then historically. And what

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<v Speaker 1>that causes is more people, younger people particularly to find

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<v Speaker 1>more career opportunities that are available to them now than

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<v Speaker 1>historically might have been available to them. And so when

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<v Speaker 1>I think about that in my experience, and so I

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<v Speaker 1>have a couple of companies in one particular that makes

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<v Speaker 1>sense to talk about in this scenario, it's Creatio. So

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<v Speaker 1>Creatio we are a full service video production, website development, communication, strategy, design,

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<v Speaker 1>and more. And we focus on companies that want to

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<v Speaker 1>reach and engage multicultural and diverse audiences. And so what's

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<v Speaker 1>been important to me is, you know, when I started

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<v Speaker 1>this business, I was doing all of the work. I

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<v Speaker 1>was teaching myself how to develop websites because I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have the capital to pay somebody else to build a

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<v Speaker 1>website or to even the website for Creatio, our own

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<v Speaker 1>individual website. I didn't have the money to ship that

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<v Speaker 1>out to somebody else to build a website for Creatio,

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<v Speaker 1>or whether I was installing a system at one of

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<v Speaker 1>our client locations. I had to learn how to install

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<v Speaker 1>those systems at a client location. And we started venturing

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<v Speaker 1>into other offerings service wise, whether that be in video

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<v Speaker 1>production or photography, I had to learn how to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>And so what's been important to me about our entire

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<v Speaker 1>arc of you know, so far in our art I

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<v Speaker 1>should say, is you know, having this scrappy mentality of

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<v Speaker 1>a desire personally to be really good at the things

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<v Speaker 1>that we are going to be providing to our clients.

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<v Speaker 1>And so this does not necessarily mean that whatever you're doing,

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<v Speaker 1>you should be spending the time to learn, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if especially if you're gonna, you know, do something that

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<v Speaker 1>scales really really fast. This company wasn't designed to scale

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<v Speaker 1>really really fast. When I started the company, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>really understand, you know, about scale. And so it is

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<v Speaker 1>a lifestyle company. It's a successful one, but it is

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<v Speaker 1>a lifestyle company. We have employees and et cetera. But

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<v Speaker 1>it was not designed to take off like a unicorn.

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<v Speaker 1>And so this particular conversation I want to have is

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<v Speaker 1>for people who you know are building lifestyle companies, and

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<v Speaker 1>it is about the idea of how do you grow

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<v Speaker 1>talent and should you grow talent. Often in particularly black

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<v Speaker 1>owned businesses, lifestyle businesses that are not funded by outside parties,

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<v Speaker 1>you do not have outside investors. You are at a

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<v Speaker 1>disadvantage when you're trying to attract high caliber talent because

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<v Speaker 1>you may not have the resources to pay high caliber

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<v Speaker 1>talent what they can get in the marketplace. And so

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<v Speaker 1>what do you do. You could, you know, throw your

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<v Speaker 1>hands up and say, you know what, I can't afford

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<v Speaker 1>the people that it's going to take for me to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to run this business successfully. And you give up.

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<v Speaker 1>You've given up even before you started, right, And so

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<v Speaker 1>that is not a mentality that was going to work

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<v Speaker 1>for me. And so I was like, look, I'm first

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<v Speaker 1>of all going to become the high caliber talent that

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<v Speaker 1>I wish I could hire, and then I am going

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<v Speaker 1>to replace myself in each of those particular roles. So

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<v Speaker 1>one of the first things, fortunately I got an opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to stop doing which I actually do enjoy it personally,

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<v Speaker 1>but I stopped doing video production and photography. While I

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<v Speaker 1>did enjoy doing it, it's time consuming, and what I

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<v Speaker 1>could not afford to do was keep doing it just

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<v Speaker 1>because I enjoy doing it. If I am in in

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<v Speaker 1>front of a computer editing video and I'm out at shoots,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, taking pictures, who is out building the business

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<v Speaker 1>for everybody else to continue to have other projects to

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<v Speaker 1>work on. Because producing video, taking pictures, that is two

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<v Speaker 1>jobs right there. It could be three even because some

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<v Speaker 1>people can just be videographers, some people can be editors,

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<v Speaker 1>some people could just be photographers. That could be two

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<v Speaker 1>to three jobs right there. So if I'm doing two

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<v Speaker 1>to three jobs just based on the capturing of content,

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<v Speaker 1>who is out finding you know, business for the next

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<v Speaker 1>round after this particular project is done. Now, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>different thing. If we're talking about you know, being there

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<v Speaker 1>because the client wants to see you and you're their

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<v Speaker 1>representative and et cetera, and you're making making sure everything

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<v Speaker 1>is going well, that's a different conversation. But the conversation

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<v Speaker 1>I'm having is about, you know, if I am actively

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<v Speaker 1>doing the work, if the product, the asset doesn't get created,

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<v Speaker 1>if I don't create it myself with my hands, with

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<v Speaker 1>my eye, with my skill and my ability to perform

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<v Speaker 1>the work, then we can only grow so far. So

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<v Speaker 1>I also don't have the capital to go higher. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>a photographer or a videographer at the beginning of this

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<v Speaker 1>business at the rate that they can afford to get

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<v Speaker 1>either freelance or with an agency that's more established. So

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<v Speaker 1>what do you do? You have this business, you want

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<v Speaker 1>to get off the ground in your early stages, whether

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<v Speaker 1>that be a couple of months old or you're a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of years old. In so many cases, because you

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<v Speaker 1>can still be in the early days. If you haven't

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<v Speaker 1>caught traction yet, you're in the early days. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily have the capital to go hire people who are

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<v Speaker 1>very well versed in that work, in producing that work,

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<v Speaker 1>because they can get more money from a freelance perspective

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<v Speaker 1>or with an agency firm company that is more established,

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<v Speaker 1>has deeper pockets than you. What do you do? What

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<v Speaker 1>I did was I started knocking on the door of

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<v Speaker 1>my local university. What I did was I started to

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<v Speaker 1>hire people who were earlier in their career and just

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<v Speaker 1>wanted a shot. Maybe they were learning videography or maybe

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<v Speaker 1>they were learning photography, but they may not necessarily have

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<v Speaker 1>the skills to go be successful from a freelance perspective,

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<v Speaker 1>which means they can't go sell themselves. And so I was,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in many ways, their representative. I could have

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<v Speaker 1>been their manager, except they were coming into the fold

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<v Speaker 1>of my enterprise. That's how I built this company. I

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<v Speaker 1>built this company by leveraging ambition, by leveraging initiative of

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<v Speaker 1>other people who otherwise wouldn't have been given a shot

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<v Speaker 1>at a company or a firm that's more established. But

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to give them a shot because they were

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<v Speaker 1>taking a shot on me. I could sell. I also

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<v Speaker 1>knew how to do the work, so I was able

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to vet people who were while they

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<v Speaker 1>were early in their journey. I could see that they

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<v Speaker 1>had something, and so my ability to both sell and

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<v Speaker 1>to bring the best out of somebody even though they're newer,

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<v Speaker 1>was where I found success. Now, if you're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>go and encourage somebody who's early in their career to

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<v Speaker 1>come alongside you and you can't bring the best out

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<v Speaker 1>of them, they will not stay with you long. These

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<v Speaker 1>are ambitious people, and ambitious people want to be challenged,

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<v Speaker 1>and so your ability to both a sell so that

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<v Speaker 1>you can pay them and be coach them bring the

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<v Speaker 1>best out of them, create an environment that they that

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<v Speaker 1>they enjoy working in. That's your job, and so we

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<v Speaker 1>were able to find success in that way. Some of

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<v Speaker 1>the first people who ever worked for Creatio I got

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<v Speaker 1>directly out of college or before they graduated, and they

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<v Speaker 1>were producing work under the umbrella of Creatio that put

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<v Speaker 1>us on the map. But it wasn't just about the

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<v Speaker 1>money for them. They enjoyed the money, but they also

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyed working on something that meant something. They got a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to build something alongside somebody who took a shot

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<v Speaker 1>on them, because they recognized that they were early, and

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<v Speaker 1>they also recognized that they weren't going to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to go and demand a lot from an agency that's

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<v Speaker 1>been around for a long period of time and had

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<v Speaker 1>very senior people there. They knew that probably in that

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<v Speaker 1>firm they were going to be bringing somebody's coffee, and

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<v Speaker 1>so here in this newly formed company, they were going

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<v Speaker 1>to get an opportunity to be a part of building

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<v Speaker 1>something and creating a culture that valued ambition and ambition

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<v Speaker 1>and people trying to figure it out together. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>special place to be in So I've always valued people

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<v Speaker 1>who want to take a shot on themselves because I

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<v Speaker 1>took shots on myself, and so we're taking shots on

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<v Speaker 1>ourselves together. We abandoned brothers and sistors, and so alongside that,

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<v Speaker 1>it's important also to think about why do the norms

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<v Speaker 1>that exist in traditional enterprises, traditional companies? Why do they

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<v Speaker 1>have to why do they have to exist here? So

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<v Speaker 1>my team knows I only care about I care about

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<v Speaker 1>three things. Some companies you go to have a long

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<v Speaker 1>list of things that they care about. I care about

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<v Speaker 1>three things. That the work is done on time, that

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<v Speaker 1>is fire, and that you guys work well together. You

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<v Speaker 1>figure out a way to work well together. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>I care about. And so there is no list of Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, office hours are from eight to five when

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<v Speaker 1>we expect you to be here, and there's two weeks

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<v Speaker 1>off a year, and you know those sorts of things.

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<v Speaker 1>It didn't work for us. I didn't even try to

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<v Speaker 1>make it work for us because I didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>work in a place that operated that way. So why

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<v Speaker 1>would I institute some policies and ways of doing things

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<v Speaker 1>that I didn't appreciate Being both a creative and a businessman,

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<v Speaker 1>so I got to design the company I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>work for. And so many of you listening to this

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<v Speaker 1>are in a position to design the kind of company

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<v Speaker 1>that you would want to work for, if you just

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<v Speaker 1>recognize that you have that opportunity to do that. Why

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<v Speaker 1>am I telling and demanding a creative somebody who's editing video, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to be here at nine am? Why what

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<v Speaker 1>if they work best at noon. I used to have

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<v Speaker 1>a guy who shout out to nick. I used to

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<v Speaker 1>have a guy he's in La now doing movies, and

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<v Speaker 1>he used to come into the office at eleven pm

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<v Speaker 1>and he would be there till three in the morning. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously when we got a shoot, he would show up

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<v Speaker 1>for the shoot and on time and be professional, etc.

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<v Speaker 1>But when there's a deadline for computer work, when there's

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<v Speaker 1>like things that he needed to do at his desk

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<v Speaker 1>that didn't require interfacing with a client, why do I

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<v Speaker 1>care if he's there at you know, nine am, eight am?

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<v Speaker 1>For what reason? And so the important thing for me

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<v Speaker 1>to do and every again, it's another thing that everybody

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<v Speaker 1>on my teams knows. My job today is not to

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<v Speaker 1>produce videos. My job is to make sure you have

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<v Speaker 1>what you need to produce videos. So if you come

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<v Speaker 1>to me and you say, hey, will you know my

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<v Speaker 1>my you know, my iMac is a little slow. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>My job is to figure out why is it slow?

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<v Speaker 1>Is the memory running low? Is it old and you

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<v Speaker 1>need a new computer, you know? Or is it you

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<v Speaker 1>need is you need to clear some hard dry space

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<v Speaker 1>off so you can, you know, more freely move around.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my job, and my job is to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>you have what you need. So if you need to

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<v Speaker 1>work in order for you to work best, if you

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<v Speaker 1>need flexibility in your schedule, as long as that is

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<v Speaker 1>not disrupting to the business. Why do I care? Why

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<v Speaker 1>do I care if your hair is a natural color.

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<v Speaker 1>He came in that same guy, he came in with

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<v Speaker 1>yellow hair one day. What impact did that have on

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<v Speaker 1>his work? Zero? And So these things that some of us,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, think matter because those are the way we

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<v Speaker 1>were raised in business, and there were these rules and

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<v Speaker 1>guardrails that restricted creativity and self expression. Those don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to exist anymore, and so sometimes we just need somebody

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<v Speaker 1>to free us, you know, to the possibility that working

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<v Speaker 1>can be fun and you can build again the type

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<v Speaker 1>of company you would want to work for. You can

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<v Speaker 1>build a culture, you know, and an environment that is actually

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<v Speaker 1>a good place to be, a fun place to be,

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<v Speaker 1>where I want to come to work to, where I

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<v Speaker 1>know I've got projects on my plate. Hey man, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't wait to get to the office tomorrow because you

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<v Speaker 1>notice nobody looking over your shoulder. Now, it comes with

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of trust, and that trust is earned. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody knows there's the three things I care about. I

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<v Speaker 1>only care about those three things, and if I'm consistent

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<v Speaker 1>on those three things, they will trust me also, and

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<v Speaker 1>so we won't let each other down. So going to

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<v Speaker 1>my local university was very helpful to me. There was

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<v Speaker 1>a website it's called Handshake that many universities across the

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<v Speaker 1>country use. I know my local ones use it. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's a website where you can go and you can

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<v Speaker 1>post opportunities, jobs and internships, co ops and etc. For students,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like a big student job board for colleges

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<v Speaker 1>and universities. They use it. So if you post a

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<v Speaker 1>job to a place like Handshake, you get to say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know here the particular universities that i'd like this

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<v Speaker 1>job to be promoted to. And then those universities on

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<v Speaker 1>the back end, you know, will vet the role and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, either accept or deny your job posting and

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<v Speaker 1>so again you can do internships on there. You can

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<v Speaker 1>do co op opportunities on their actual job opportunities on there.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what I did. I posted the positions I

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<v Speaker 1>had to handshake, and I even reached out to a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of professors directly on a lot of websites. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you can find you know, the email addresses of the professors.

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<v Speaker 1>And this might not be something or a tactic that

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people employed, because, at least in my experience,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, professors seem to be very willing to make

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<v Speaker 1>introductions or to show you, you know, the proper steps

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<v Speaker 1>to getting in touch with their students. I got a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of response, more than you might imagine, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when you send code emails, you know, I guess, depending

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<v Speaker 1>on who you're emailing, you really don't expect the response

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<v Speaker 1>rate to be super high. But the response rate in

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<v Speaker 1>my experience to this was very high. The professors were

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<v Speaker 1>in many ways, you know, excited to give their students

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<v Speaker 1>the opportunities to work on real things. A lot of

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<v Speaker 1>colleges and universities, particularly in creative works, have their students

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<v Speaker 1>work on make believe projects, like projects that are not

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<v Speaker 1>going to be used in the wild, and so to

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<v Speaker 1>have them work on things that might actually be seen

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<v Speaker 1>in the world. You know, for many that's encouraging to them.

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<v Speaker 1>It's inspiring for them to introduce their students to those opportunities.

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<v Speaker 1>And you got to be smart when you do this,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you're probably not going to go to the largest

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<v Speaker 1>college or university in the state. You know, many times

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<v Speaker 1>the technical institutions, the technical colleges is you know those

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<v Speaker 1>ones that are more community colleges that have programs where

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<v Speaker 1>you know, technical skills can be learned, creative skills can

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<v Speaker 1>be learned, you know, whether that be photography, videography, coding.

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<v Speaker 1>In many ways, a lot of those professors are very reachable.

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<v Speaker 1>They're very reachable, and they have students that are excited

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<v Speaker 1>about doing things. So it's been you know, kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a method of operation that has worked for me. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I highly encourage you when you're trying to build

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<v Speaker 1>a company and you're in your early stages and the

0:25:36.680 --> 0:25:39.040
<v Speaker 1>work that you're providing the world is like a technical

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<v Speaker 1>service or offering grow your talent. You're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>have the capital in many instances to go hire the

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<v Speaker 1>best people, but you know, what you want to put

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<v Speaker 1>into the world. You know the level of care that

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<v Speaker 1>you would take. And so if you can sell somebody

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<v Speaker 1>to coming alongside the journey with you, that says a

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<v Speaker 1>lot about your ability to have success at all. These

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<v Speaker 1>are people who are ambitious. You know, they're taking it

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<v Speaker 1>on themselves to learn these skills. They may not just

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<v Speaker 1>have the ability to go and sell it so that

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<v Speaker 1>they can make an income and make a living on it.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you have that ability, go to the people.

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<v Speaker 1>Find ambitious people, often young sometimes you know, maybe they

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<v Speaker 1>are adults who are re educating themselves. But if they're

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<v Speaker 1>willing to come alongside somebody who and they get to

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<v Speaker 1>build something with you, that could be really interesting to

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of them. Imagine the people out there who

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<v Speaker 1>are actually paying to go to technical classes and pay

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<v Speaker 1>to get certificateds to learn these skills. And you're offering

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<v Speaker 1>people who are ambitious the opportunity to be paid to learn,

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<v Speaker 1>to be paid to actually exercise something that they may

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<v Speaker 1>not be an expert at, but they're pretty good. You

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<v Speaker 1>can build a really successful lifestyle company with pretty good talent.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't need the best talent, the expensive talent. You

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<v Speaker 1>can build it with pretty good talent that you are

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<v Speaker 1>willing to invest in from a professional development perspective, and

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<v Speaker 1>put them in an environment that leans into the way

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<v Speaker 1>that they work. They're gonna want to know that they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to get constructive feedback that helps them continue to

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<v Speaker 1>get better and at the same time doesn't put unnecessary

0:27:48.440 --> 0:27:54.359
<v Speaker 1>arbitrary guardrails and rules around them. So not having the

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<v Speaker 1>talent to grow your company. To grow your business is

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<v Speaker 1>not an excuse. There are creative ways to find people

0:28:03.200 --> 0:28:06.159
<v Speaker 1>who know how to do the thing, and the enemy

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<v Speaker 1>of finding success in this way is wishing you had

0:28:09.320 --> 0:28:13.000
<v Speaker 1>and waiting for the day where you can hire experts.

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<v Speaker 1>What you want is hungry, scrappy, ambitious people who know

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<v Speaker 1>how to do it and they're pretty good, and grow

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<v Speaker 1>them into experts, demand the best out of them by

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<v Speaker 1>inspiring them to be the best and to bring their

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