WEBVTT - Ben Weingarten Defends The Freedom Hut 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:03.880 This is the Buck Sexton Show, where the mission or 0:00:03.960 --> 0:00:08.120 mission is to decode what really matters with actionable intelligence. 0:00:10.280 --> 0:00:14.280 Magnorma stake America, You're a great American. Again, the buck 0:00:14.320 --> 0:00:22.239 Sexton Show begins. Analyst, remember the d This is the 0:00:22.280 --> 0:00:25.360 Buck Sexton Show, and this is Ben Weinegarden in four 0:00:25.600 --> 0:00:30.800 Buck Sexton here on a snowy night in Manhattan. A 0:00:30.920 --> 0:00:33.279 four four nine zero zero Buck. That's eight four nine 0:00:33.400 --> 0:00:37.160 zero zero two eight two five. Again, this is Ben Weinegarden, 0:00:37.479 --> 0:00:40.440 pinch hitting for Buck. And even though it is spring training, 0:00:40.800 --> 0:00:42.920 I have to admit that that analogy sort of pains 0:00:42.960 --> 0:00:45.600 me as a Mets fan after what occurred yesterday, which 0:00:46.000 --> 0:00:48.000 we want to talk about a thirteen year, three hundred 0:00:48.000 --> 0:00:51.960 and thirty million dollar deal in our division. Well, Ben, 0:00:52.000 --> 0:00:53.960 you do know that I'm a huge Phillies fan. Well, yeah, 0:00:54.000 --> 0:00:56.480 I didn't want to get into it before this, and 0:00:56.600 --> 0:00:58.680 now I expect the show to be sabotage. So this 0:00:58.720 --> 0:01:03.280 should be an interesting few hours here live from New York. 0:01:04.000 --> 0:01:06.280 As I mentioned, this is Ben Winegarden. If you haven't 0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:09.360 heard me before, I'm a senior contributor at The Federalist, 0:01:09.600 --> 0:01:12.639 a senior fellow at the London Center for Policy Research, 0:01:12.680 --> 0:01:15.880 and you can follow me on Twitter at bh wine Garden, 0:01:15.920 --> 0:01:18.319 where I do talk about baseball at night. During the 0:01:18.360 --> 0:01:21.800 day it's all business. Most of the baseball tweets have 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:26.800 been as neurotic and upset as you might expect as 0:01:26.800 --> 0:01:30.479 a New York Mets fan blowing our window, blowing our window. 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:32.280 All right, if you're not a baseball fan, I will 0:01:32.280 --> 0:01:35.920 spare you with my sorrow here as the guys behind 0:01:35.920 --> 0:01:40.720 the glass laugh at my dismay. I want to open 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:45.280 tonight first by thanking Buck because he does a vital 0:01:45.360 --> 0:01:48.280 job here, and that is to articulate the values and 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:51.640 principles that we all share and then are not well represented. 0:01:52.480 --> 0:01:55.600 And you know they're not well represented when you see 0:01:55.640 --> 0:02:00.360 what the loyal adversary, the Democratic Party does on a 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:03.000 daily basis. And we're going to start tonight by talking 0:02:03.040 --> 0:02:06.680 about Democrats, and we're gonna close by talking about Republicans 0:02:06.680 --> 0:02:10.560 and conservatism and what the future holds. So this week, 0:02:10.600 --> 0:02:15.680 of course, the big story was Cohen Kabuki theater. Michael Cohen, 0:02:16.000 --> 0:02:19.320 the least credible person, a person who perjured himself in 0:02:19.320 --> 0:02:22.760 front of Congress. Now the red carpet is rolled out 0:02:22.840 --> 0:02:26.120 for him in Congress, of course, you know, just happening 0:02:26.160 --> 0:02:30.640 to coincide with the highest level nuclear negotiations with the 0:02:30.680 --> 0:02:33.760 North Koreans that you could possibly have. By the way, 0:02:33.760 --> 0:02:37.520 there were some other big stories as well. Robert Whiteheiser 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:41.400 was on Capitol Hill and he dropped some important information 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:44.400 about the Chinese trade deal that there would actually be 0:02:44.440 --> 0:02:47.120 an enforcement mechanism, and there was news but the fact 0:02:47.160 --> 0:02:50.600 that incremental tariffs would not be levied on the Chinese 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:53.600 as part of ongoing negotiations. We have the collapse of 0:02:53.600 --> 0:02:56.840 a socialist regime happening in our own hemisphere. We have 0:02:57.120 --> 0:03:02.480 India Pakistan squabbles which are highly dangerous and potentially threatened 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:05.639 many US national interests in that part of the world. 0:03:06.080 --> 0:03:09.680 But the media focus was on the least credible person 0:03:10.000 --> 0:03:16.040 you could possibly have. That was the media's focus. Oh 0:03:16.080 --> 0:03:17.880 and by the way, he was coached, it seems or 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:25.399 at least had communications with dubious representative Adam Schiff. Oh yeah, 0:03:25.400 --> 0:03:26.920 and speaking of Russia, by the way, this week it 0:03:26.960 --> 0:03:29.959 was revealed the Trump administration engaged in a cyber attack 0:03:30.160 --> 0:03:32.840 to completely take offline a Russian troll farm that was 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:36.360 attempting another shoddy effort to post some garbage and influenced 0:03:36.400 --> 0:03:40.040 quote unquote the twenty eighteen midterm election worst collusion ever, 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:46.040 worst collusion ever, folks. Where Michael Cohen is important is 0:03:46.040 --> 0:03:48.280 not because of anything Michael Cohen said, although what he 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:51.000 did show is that there is no collusion, once again 0:03:51.080 --> 0:03:53.360 for the million of time, after two committees showed it, 0:03:53.480 --> 0:03:55.800 after all the weeks from the Muller Special Council showed it. 0:03:56.040 --> 0:03:58.480 Not that Cohen has any credibility, but at this point 0:03:58.520 --> 0:04:00.600 he has nothing to lose. He's going to jail. Essentially, 0:04:02.160 --> 0:04:04.760 no collusion, not one iota. This person who is so 0:04:04.840 --> 0:04:07.720 close to the president, this person who could read his 0:04:07.760 --> 0:04:12.800 mind based upon his testimony, Cohen isn't what's important. What 0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:15.480 Cohen represents is important, and that is that he is 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:17.960 a precursor to what's coming for the next two years 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:22.040 of every of endless coverage of every last iota of 0:04:22.080 --> 0:04:28.240 Donald Trump's life being investigated by his worst enemies. So 0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:30.880 Axios's lead article this morning, which is sort of a 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:34.480 good proxy for where the left establishment sees the world going, 0:04:35.160 --> 0:04:37.039 they write, whether or not Mueller is sitting on a 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:39.560 grand finale, Democrats are picking up the Baton with a 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:42.600 vast probe that already involves a half dozen committees. That's 0:04:42.640 --> 0:04:45.320 great use of taxpayered dollars and will include public hearings 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:49.240 starring reluctant witnesses. So who are these witnesses they want? 0:04:49.240 --> 0:04:52.000 The Democrats want to call Trump family members with subpoenas 0:04:52.000 --> 0:04:56.800 if necessary. The investigation will touch Trump's businesses, his foundation, 0:04:56.839 --> 0:04:59.480 because after all, his businesses and his foundation are so 0:04:59.600 --> 0:05:02.760 relevant into his presidency right now, and then they want 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:05.240 to talk about his presidency. Oh and it could extend 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:10.040 to twenty twenty. Top Democrats tell axios by coincidence. Besides Russia, 0:05:10.120 --> 0:05:13.240 topics include conflicts of interest, money laundering, and Jared Kushner's 0:05:13.240 --> 0:05:17.760 security clearance and other White House clearances. Rep. Jamie Raskin, 0:05:17.800 --> 0:05:20.240 a Democrat from Maryland who's on the House Oversight Committee, 0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:23.360 says that the committee is zeroing in on the Moscow project. Yes, 0:05:23.400 --> 0:05:26.720 the famous Moscow building project which never got off the ground, 0:05:26.720 --> 0:05:29.320 where there were never any high level conversations which had 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:33.400 no impact whatsoever on anything relating to this presidency, the 0:05:33.440 --> 0:05:36.000 Russia connection and the influence of oh other foreign actors 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:37.960 like Saudi Arabia. They've teased that for a while that 0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:40.839 they're going to look at basically every foreign connection because 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:43.240 after all, we found so much collusion already, Am I 0:05:43.240 --> 0:05:49.800 wrong again? So many of these actions actually occurred before 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:54.000 the presidency, so they're really irrelevant in context of anything 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:56.520 resembling impeachment, which is what they ultimately want to get to. 0:06:00.720 --> 0:06:03.840 So and let's continue a little bit down that road. 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:07.680 I'll quote here from a Wall Street Journal article titled 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:11.520 House Committee's planned to interview Trump organizations, CFO and others. 0:06:12.080 --> 0:06:15.320 Congressional investigators don't want to cross wires with mister Muller's 0:06:15.320 --> 0:06:18.240 probe into Russian interference in the twenty sixteen presidential election, 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:20.920 which is expected to end soon, among other matters. Mister 0:06:20.960 --> 0:06:24.039 Muller's investigative, mister Trump, are members of the campaign concluded 0:06:24.080 --> 0:06:26.280 with the Russians? And if the President has obstructed the 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:28.760 progress of the inquiry by firing a subordinate By the way, 0:06:28.760 --> 0:06:30.679 they didn't put that in the article, but that's the reality. 0:06:30.800 --> 0:06:36.000 Firing a subordinate somehow, obstruction potentially declassifying documents somehow an 0:06:36.040 --> 0:06:40.039 impeachable offense. The article continues, mister Trump has repeatedly denied 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:42.960 wrongdoing and call the investigation of which hunt. Some Democrats 0:06:43.000 --> 0:06:44.880 are concerned that not all of the findings from those 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:48.279 investigations will become public. By the way, if there is 0:06:48.360 --> 0:06:51.320 no indictment, then it should not become public. You're supposed 0:06:51.360 --> 0:06:55.320 to protect the innocent. Justice Department policy prevents the indictment 0:06:55.320 --> 0:06:58.160 of a sitting president, most legal experts say, and Democrats 0:06:58.320 --> 0:07:01.040 fear that evidence against that it may not be released 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:03.520 if it isn't in an indictment. I thought this was 0:07:03.520 --> 0:07:05.800 supposed to be the party of criminal justice, but apparently 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:11.080 not so. Then there's a quote from Representative Raja Krishna Morti, 0:07:11.320 --> 0:07:13.440 from a Democrat from Illinois and a member of the 0:07:13.440 --> 0:07:16.720 House Oversight and House Intelligence Committee quote, we should just 0:07:16.760 --> 0:07:18.800 assume the worst and that we're never going to find 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:21.120 out what any of these investigations reveal if they don't 0:07:21.160 --> 0:07:23.840 lead to an indictment. That's the worst. We're talking about 0:07:23.880 --> 0:07:25.520 a member of the House of Representative, someone who is 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:28.840 supposed to at least feign interest in justice. And what 0:07:29.000 --> 0:07:32.520 is he saying. He's saying we have to assume the worst. Ie, 0:07:32.520 --> 0:07:34.760 We're not going to get information that we can use 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:37.160 to attack a president if it isn't used to indict someone. 0:07:38.240 --> 0:07:44.280 That's the worst, you know, if they want everything that 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:50.000 Mueller did exposed. Congressman noonez today during SEPAK said something interesting. 0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:51.920 He said, and I agree with him. If this is 0:07:51.920 --> 0:07:53.440 going to happen, if we're really going to go down 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:56.640 this road, Let's see every communication of the Mueller Special Council. 0:07:56.800 --> 0:08:00.960 Let's see every last shred of evidence. Let's see it all. 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:03.720 Let's see all the personnel. Let's see the background checks 0:08:03.720 --> 0:08:06.320 that were done into the personnel who comprised the special counsel. 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:08.920 Let's have it all hashed out, and then let's declassify 0:08:09.000 --> 0:08:12.600 every last document associated with any investigation or President Trump. 0:08:12.800 --> 0:08:15.080 I don't think the investigators want us to look at 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:20.600 the information that they use for their investigations. I want 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:22.840 to go back and take a trip down memory land 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:25.160 with a quip here. And I'm not going to tell 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:29.160 you when this clip occurred or who said it, but 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:32.880 let's roll clip one. The effective impeachment is to overturn 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:35.880 the popular will of the voters. We must not overturn 0:08:35.920 --> 0:08:39.000 an election and remove a president from office except to 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:42.760 defend our system of government or our constitutional liberties against 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:45.440 the dire threat. And we must not do so without 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:49.160 an overwhelming consensus of the American people. There must never 0:08:49.280 --> 0:08:53.200 be a narrowly voted impeachment, or an impeachment supported by 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:56.160 one of our major political parties and opposed by the other. 0:08:56.760 --> 0:09:00.320 Such an impeachment will produce the divisiveness and bitterness in 0:09:00.400 --> 0:09:03.079 our politics for years to come, and we'll call into 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:07.120 question the very legitimacy of our political institutions. You may 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:10.199 have the votes, you may have the muscle, but you 0:09:10.280 --> 0:09:13.600 do not have the legitimacy of a national consensus or 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:18.080 of a constitutional imperative. This partisan coupe data will go 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:22.480 down in infamy in the history of this nation. I'll 0:09:22.520 --> 0:09:24.280 give you a second to write down on a piece 0:09:24.320 --> 0:09:28.440 of paper who you think it was that made those 0:09:28.480 --> 0:09:31.880 comments and when those comments were made. All right, are 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:36.360 you listening? That was Gerald Nadwer in nineteen ninety eight. 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:39.640 You might remember Gerald Nadwer, Democrat from New York. He's 0:09:39.679 --> 0:09:43.600 still in the House today. Back then and today he 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:45.880 would be the person, as the chair of the House 0:09:45.960 --> 0:09:50.720 Judiciary Committee who would oversee impeachment proceedings. Back then, he 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:55.240 was defending Bill Quinton against impeachment. Isn't it amazing how 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:58.160 that exact argument could be applied today, but you will 0:09:58.240 --> 0:10:01.560 never see the left apply because it doesn't suit them, 0:10:01.679 --> 0:10:05.280 it doesn't support their political interests, because they aren't actually principled. 0:10:07.679 --> 0:10:11.040 But you know what impeachment itself is actually besides the point. Yes, 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:13.839 Democrats would love to impeach and remove if they could, 0:10:14.000 --> 0:10:15.760 they're not going to be able to get to the removal. 0:10:15.880 --> 0:10:18.240 And frankly, they recognize some of them, at least the 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:20.880 more sober ones, the old guard, if you will, and 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:22.720 we'll talk about the old Guard versus the Young Turks 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:26.120 a bit later. The old Guard recognizes that impeachment is 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:28.959 a weapon that can lead to self destruction. They saw 0:10:29.000 --> 0:10:31.880 the Republicans do it, and with some of the folks, 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:34.680 the more progressive folks in the Democratic House right now, 0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:36.720 they could be in big trouble if they actually go 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:41.120 down that path. But impeachment, again is besides the point. 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:45.880 It's not about that act. The goal of these investigations 0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:50.600 is to continue to create the appearance of smoke, but 0:10:50.679 --> 0:10:54.520 there's never any fire. There has never been a smoking gun. 0:10:54.760 --> 0:10:58.600 There is no fire. You've had people who loathe the 0:10:58.640 --> 0:11:02.600 president take unpressed in an action to look into communications 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:07.920 private documents, take away boxes and boxes full of the 0:11:07.960 --> 0:11:12.000 most private communicators with lawyers of the president and others. 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:16.640 There's no there there, But the momentum is such that 0:11:16.679 --> 0:11:19.920 they can't stop. They have to feed their base, and 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:23.840 they are wedded to this narrative. And so again, it's 0:11:23.840 --> 0:11:26.760 about creating the appearance of smoke for as long as possible, 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:28.960 and that's going to mean into twenty twenty and through 0:11:29.000 --> 0:11:32.240 the election. Clearly. Now the question is does that actually 0:11:32.280 --> 0:11:34.520 move the needle with you, the American people, And I 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:37.920 would suggest that it won't. Those who believe this is 0:11:38.040 --> 0:11:41.240 essentially a hoax, we're gonna believe it's a hoax. Those 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:43.240 who are on the other side and believe it's a 0:11:43.280 --> 0:11:47.280 Russian spy, they're gonna believe what they're gonna believe. The 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:52.079 people in the middle, those old Reagan Democrats turned Trump Republicans, 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:55.880 I don't think that this is gonna play well with them. 0:11:56.320 --> 0:11:59.880 I really don't. But that said, you can bet the 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:03.240 House committees are going to leave no stone unturned because 0:12:03.320 --> 0:12:06.880 they need to create a constant hysteria. This isn't about oversight. 0:12:07.320 --> 0:12:10.280 This is a political conviction in search of the appearance 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:13.240 at least of crimes. It's an investigation in search of 0:12:13.280 --> 0:12:16.360 a crime, and in a worst case scenario for the investigators, 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:20.959 the process itself is the punishment. The process is the punishment. 0:12:21.360 --> 0:12:24.760 The whole purpose of this, this whole effort that started 0:12:24.960 --> 0:12:28.040 well before Donald Trump was elected president and we're talking 0:12:28.240 --> 0:12:30.880 June and maybe even earlier in twenty sixteen, the whole 0:12:30.880 --> 0:12:34.760 purpose was to sabotage and paralyze a presidency. And that's 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:40.640 why we have four years of quote unquote investigation. This 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:43.200 is Ben Winegarden in four buck Sexton. Lines are open. 0:12:43.280 --> 0:12:45.600 Eight four four nine zero zero buck. That's eight four 0:12:45.640 --> 0:12:50.560 four two eight two five. Will be right back. Welcome 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:53.240 back to the buck Sexton Show. This is Ben Weinarten 0:12:53.240 --> 0:12:56.439 in four buck Sexton. Thanks for joining us on this 0:12:56.679 --> 0:12:59.360 Friday night. Eight four four nine zero zero buck. That's 0:12:59.400 --> 0:13:02.000 eight four four nine zero zero two eight two five. 0:13:02.760 --> 0:13:06.720 Before the break, I was talking about process as punishment 0:13:07.120 --> 0:13:10.960 when it comes to all of the investigations, first in 0:13:11.040 --> 0:13:15.080 both the Senate and House Intelligence committees, the Molar Special 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:18.200 Council investigations that preceded them. I want to kind of 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:21.600 summarize what has transpired because I continue to believe that 0:13:21.679 --> 0:13:24.760 this is probably the biggest scandal in American history, and 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:27.679 only a small fraction of so called journalists are the 0:13:27.679 --> 0:13:32.720 ones covering this. And that's a travesty. It's a travesty 0:13:32.800 --> 0:13:35.960 not because we care about media, but because we care 0:13:36.080 --> 0:13:40.599 about truth. And thank god we have the Internet. We 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:43.320 would not have an informed citizenry without the ability of 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:47.920 anyone potentially to be a journalist. So the intent, first 0:13:47.960 --> 0:13:52.080 of all, when it comes to every step back, when 0:13:52.360 --> 0:13:55.080 you know, when the President talks about while Jim Comey 0:13:55.120 --> 0:13:58.120 assured him he's not a target, the president was always 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:01.960 the target from probably even before or investigations or dossiers 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:05.000 or anything else started. We're talking in earlier in twenty sixteen, 0:14:05.200 --> 0:14:07.600 when he was popular and it actually looked like, wow, 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:10.120 this guy is going to be competitive. So the first 0:14:10.240 --> 0:14:12.880 attempt was, let's destroy him during the press in the 0:14:12.960 --> 0:14:15.680 run up to in the elections in the primary season 0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:20.520 even but then as it advanced, let's start investigations as 0:14:20.600 --> 0:14:23.880 an insurance policy, you know, just in case the point 0:14:23.960 --> 0:14:26.640 zero zero one percent chance this guy actually triumphs over 0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:31.720 Hillary Clinton, then what's spy on his associates? And let's 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:34.440 use informants to try and entrap them in Russian collusion 0:14:34.520 --> 0:14:37.880 premised on a selacious and unverified dossier paid for by 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:40.920 Hillary in the DNC and collected from shady Russian sources. 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:44.400 That's an interesting way to try to and affect frame 0:14:44.520 --> 0:14:49.000 someone that's very It doesn't get any more Clintonian, really, 0:14:49.000 --> 0:14:52.760 it really doesn't get any more Quintonian than that. So 0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:57.120 he gets elected before he's even elected. There are approaches, 0:14:57.200 --> 0:15:01.520 there's recordings of conversations, and does the intent of this 0:15:02.480 --> 0:15:05.000 to take out two people who were vital to the president? 0:15:05.080 --> 0:15:07.880 Number one, the Attorney General Jeff Sessions has to recuse 0:15:07.960 --> 0:15:10.400 himself because of Russia from the very start. So, in 0:15:10.400 --> 0:15:13.760 other words, the law enforcement bodies, FBI, Department of Justice, 0:15:14.360 --> 0:15:16.560 the person at the top who might be able to 0:15:16.600 --> 0:15:20.400 control them, taken off the board. The national security advisor, 0:15:20.400 --> 0:15:24.160 who actually agrees with overturning what the foreign policy and 0:15:24.280 --> 0:15:28.040 national security establishment have done for decades, taken off the board. 0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:31.960 So two vital cogs pulled out immediately, taken off the 0:15:31.960 --> 0:15:37.120 playing field. Later on, as they're continuing these investigations, they 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:39.800 use a firing letter that's drafted by one of their own, 0:15:40.520 --> 0:15:46.840 dag Rosenstein, to try to create a case of obstruction. 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:50.040 See Rosenstein wrote the letter on behalf of the President. 0:15:50.080 --> 0:15:53.360 The President fires Jim Comey. But isn't that interesting? It 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:55.640 was sort of a trap in some way. It's kind 0:15:55.640 --> 0:15:58.640 of it'd be interesting to actually it will. Of course, 0:15:58.680 --> 0:16:01.320 Congress can interview Rosens because he's running out the clock. 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:05.120 He's talking to favorable media offline, getting them to write 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:07.840 favorable things about him in a war that he is 0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:12.440 having with McCabe. But Congress doesn't get to have any 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:18.840 oversight over something that really matters Dad Rosenstein. All of 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:21.520 this is happening while Congress is throwing the president's agenda, 0:16:21.560 --> 0:16:24.160 and that's on a bipartisan basis. Courts are holding up 0:16:24.160 --> 0:16:27.760 policies under assinine universal injunctions. And then you have a 0:16:27.800 --> 0:16:32.000 molar Special Council which is not only squeezing anyone close 0:16:32.080 --> 0:16:34.960 to Trump but toxifying anyone around him, trying to get 0:16:34.960 --> 0:16:40.720 them to cough up something anything that will stick. So 0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:42.480 that's part of it. But then the other purposes to 0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:45.520 cover up the needed investigation of the investigators. How do 0:16:45.560 --> 0:16:48.840 you have a team and not just their political inclinations 0:16:48.840 --> 0:16:50.280 of the fact that they were all pretty much pro 0:16:50.360 --> 0:16:52.840 Hillary people, but how do you have people who are 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:55.400 the establishment of the establishment as the ones who are 0:16:55.440 --> 0:16:58.240 supposed to be independent. If you are a part of 0:16:58.280 --> 0:17:00.640 the deep state, quote unquote, you can't be dependent. If 0:17:00.680 --> 0:17:03.720 your career was made, if you spent decades in these bureaucracies, 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:07.639 in these institutions, your independent special counsel in name only. 0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:11.240 Many of the folks involved with wrongdoing which was never 0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:16.720 investigated the investigators probably very closely. No Robert Mueller. They 0:17:16.840 --> 0:17:19.240 might have gotten promotions from him at certain points during 0:17:19.280 --> 0:17:22.119 their career. He was the FBI director. How can it 0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:27.560 possibly be independent? Oh yeah. And then in the middle 0:17:27.560 --> 0:17:31.200 of all this we find out about you know, perspective 0:17:31.280 --> 0:17:35.919 Kuda taz twenty fifth Amendment, literally deposing a president that 0:17:36.119 --> 0:17:40.399 is the stuff of police states. So who are the 0:17:40.400 --> 0:17:44.119 ones destroying the institutions? Who were the ones acting in 0:17:44.200 --> 0:17:48.720 true Russian if not Soviet fashion. You know, Vladimir Putin 0:17:48.840 --> 0:17:51.720 is probably smirking about this whole thing. I have to say, 0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:54.720 And what is going on in Congress right now is 0:17:54.760 --> 0:17:57.919 merely the extension of one big, never ending effort to 0:17:57.920 --> 0:18:00.920 create the appearance of illegitimacy of crime. Tis said, even 0:18:00.960 --> 0:18:06.160 if President Trump isn't taken out by Congress, the voters 0:18:06.160 --> 0:18:08.480 will do their bidding, or very worst, he'll be a 0:18:08.560 --> 0:18:10.840 president not even able to stand on one leg, but 0:18:10.880 --> 0:18:14.680 maybe standing on a pinky toe. 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That's 0:19:51.960 --> 0:19:54.760 eight four four nine zero zero to eight two five, 0:19:54.920 --> 0:19:57.000 and let's go to the phones, and let's go to 0:19:57.160 --> 0:20:00.840 first to Charlie in Maryland earlier on the Box Sex 0:20:00.920 --> 0:20:05.760 and Show. This is Ben Weingarten. Hey, thanks for thaying McCall. Ben. 0:20:06.200 --> 0:20:09.440 I've been following this Mueller thing for some time now, 0:20:10.040 --> 0:20:15.200 and I am mad at the politicians for only one reason. 0:20:16.080 --> 0:20:19.719 They don't run this country. The bureaucrats run it, and 0:20:19.760 --> 0:20:25.400 they are openly about it. They are committing treason against 0:20:25.480 --> 0:20:30.640 this president and nobody is really saying much. I just 0:20:30.680 --> 0:20:37.840 find it absolutely amazing that we let just go. Charlie, 0:20:37.840 --> 0:20:39.439 thank you so much for the call and you know, 0:20:39.600 --> 0:20:45.679 I agree with you. This really comes down to the 0:20:45.720 --> 0:20:49.160 administrative state. At the end of the day, regimes change, 0:20:49.160 --> 0:20:53.080 our administrations change, control of the House, control of the 0:20:53.119 --> 0:20:58.720 Senate fluctuates, but the bureaucrats are forever. They are always there, 0:20:58.760 --> 0:21:01.360 and many of them are almost possible to fire. In fact, 0:21:01.400 --> 0:21:05.119 if you actually look at the government's internal ratings of 0:21:05.200 --> 0:21:09.120 government employees, everyone gets like an A plus plus. It's 0:21:09.119 --> 0:21:12.840 almost impossible to get downgraded. Probably the more corrupt or 0:21:12.880 --> 0:21:15.720 political acts that you make, you probably rank higher sad 0:21:15.760 --> 0:21:20.000 way in many agencies. And this has been reported and documented, 0:21:20.440 --> 0:21:24.440 though obviously not bandied about frequently by the political class. 0:21:25.320 --> 0:21:26.960 Not to say, of course that there aren't rank and 0:21:27.000 --> 0:21:29.480 file folks who do a great job. But if you're 0:21:29.560 --> 0:21:32.560 in a political bureaucracy and you are not political, it's 0:21:32.680 --> 0:21:35.119 very tough to rise in advance. That's why someone like 0:21:35.160 --> 0:21:38.320 a Mike Flint, incidentally, was so amazing that he rose 0:21:38.359 --> 0:21:41.080 to the position as the head of the DA under 0:21:41.400 --> 0:21:43.920 President Obama. Amazing that he ended up at that point, 0:21:43.920 --> 0:21:48.080 given how impolitic he was. But it really does come 0:21:48.080 --> 0:21:53.080 down to the bureaucracy, the administrative state, and incidentally, Congress, 0:21:54.400 --> 0:21:58.440 Congress has seeded power to these agencies. These agencies technically 0:21:58.520 --> 0:22:00.879 fall under the executive branch, but it's clear they are 0:22:00.880 --> 0:22:04.040 a fourth branch of government. I wrote a lengthy piece 0:22:04.040 --> 0:22:06.720 about this actually, and I just tweeted it out where 0:22:06.720 --> 0:22:10.000 I talk about the fact that we have created a 0:22:10.040 --> 0:22:14.679 fourth branch of government that is unelected, unaccountable, and it 0:22:14.840 --> 0:22:18.960 molds the powers of all three branches. So actually, if 0:22:18.960 --> 0:22:24.200 you look at how a federal agency works, literally, federal 0:22:24.280 --> 0:22:29.919 agencies play judge, jury, prosecutor executioner. So if you are 0:22:30.000 --> 0:22:32.320 involved in some sort of legal action when it comes 0:22:32.320 --> 0:22:35.399 to an agency, you have a business, Your business is 0:22:35.440 --> 0:22:39.080 regulated by an agency. You flatter regulation. You want to 0:22:39.119 --> 0:22:42.200 litigate against that agency, you have to go in front 0:22:42.200 --> 0:22:44.840 of an administrative judge. So it's a government judge. You 0:22:44.880 --> 0:22:47.440 couldn't have a more rigged playing field. There's a great quote. 0:22:47.440 --> 0:22:49.840 I urge you to look it up. Look up Gary Lawson. 0:22:49.920 --> 0:22:53.320 He's a law professor who's written about the administrative state 0:22:53.840 --> 0:22:57.000 and shows you that the administrative state is tyranny. If 0:22:57.000 --> 0:22:59.920 you have all three branches of government in one subset 0:23:00.000 --> 0:23:03.160 action of the executive branch, that's tyranny. The whole purpose 0:23:03.200 --> 0:23:06.800 of separation of powers was that you didn't have executive, legislative, 0:23:06.840 --> 0:23:13.760 and judicial functions all under one roof. That's why this 0:23:15.640 --> 0:23:18.800 is much bigger than any one particular president. It's much 0:23:18.840 --> 0:23:21.840 bigger than these last two years and maybe the six 0:23:21.920 --> 0:23:27.120 years succumb It's fundamentally about who rules. We the people rule, 0:23:27.240 --> 0:23:32.760 or de bureaucrats rule. Congress has ceded its power to 0:23:32.800 --> 0:23:36.200 these agencies. They've delegated their own powers away. Sham on 0:23:36.280 --> 0:23:38.919 Congress for doing it. And it also allows Congress to 0:23:39.000 --> 0:23:41.920