1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: I don't even know how people start these things. But okay, uh, 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: you guys. 3 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 2: Rolling because this is this is literally an emergency noday. 4 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 2: This is like an emergency meeting. 5 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 6 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 3: Okay, So you guys, if you're listening to this, I 7 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 3: want you to know that we recorded this on April 8 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 3: Fool's Day, April first, twenty twenty six. 9 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: But this is not a damn joke. Okay. 10 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 3: I think my life has been forever changed by the 11 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 3: events that have gone on recently. I'm so unwell that 12 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:32,279 Speaker 3: I had to bring Celia in to discuss this with 13 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 3: me because I just can't. 14 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that my life is completely altered by 15 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 2: the unfolding of events that have happened and finding out 16 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 2: what's transpired and however long. We don't even know, Like 17 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 2: we don't know the timeline. We need timeline, receipts, proof everything. 18 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 3: Okay, So, like she said, we don't know anything, but 19 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 3: let's give a rundown of what we do know. Rachel 20 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 3: is here, and Rachel has no clue what's going on. 21 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 3: So she's our tester, right only for her reaction raw 22 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 3: reaka to contribute anything that you don't want to. But 23 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 3: I need your face facing a camera. Okay, Rachel, Okay, great. 24 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 3: So what we do know right now on April one, 25 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 3: twenty twenty six, at eleven AM is that Amanda Batula 26 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 3: is the worst friend known to man and Wes Wilson 27 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 3: is a greasy, sweat bag of a rat human. 28 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely so. 29 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 3: What we know at this point is that Amanda Batula, 30 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 3: who is married to Kyle Cook, is now in a 31 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 3: connection or relationship something strong enough for them to release 32 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 3: a joint statement with Wes Wilson. West is the ex 33 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 3: boyfriend X situationship of her best friend Sierra Miller. It 34 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 3: is disgusting to think of all of the things that 35 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 3: Sierra has helped Amanda get through within the past year alone, 36 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 3: for her to start messing around to even be able 37 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 3: to find that connection or explore it is disgusting to 38 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 3: me as well, because I think friends boyfriend's situationships are 39 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 3: off limits. But the fact that you felt so strongly 40 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:22,839 Speaker 3: and so confident in this connection not a relationship. 41 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 2: By the way, whoever allowed that statement to be published 42 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 2: genuinely needs to be fired. That was the worst Yeah, 43 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 2: read it for Celia. Read it from Amanda and West's story. 44 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 2: They are the exact same. We've seen the growing online speculation, 45 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 2: so while this is still very new, we wanted to 46 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 2: provide some clarity. It was never our intention to purposely 47 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 2: hide anything. Given the complicated relationship dynamics involved and the 48 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 2: scrutiny that comes with being on a reality show, we 49 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 2: needed a little space to process things privately before speaking 50 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 2: on it. We've shown up for each other as friends 51 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 2: over the years, through all the highs and lows, and 52 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,239 Speaker 2: what's developed recently was the last thing either. 53 00:02:59,040 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: Of us expected. 54 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 2: Our connection grew out of a genuine, long standing friendship, 55 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 2: which made it especially important for us to approach us 56 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 2: with care. As our feelings evolved, We wanted to take 57 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 2: time to understand exactly what we were feeling. We also 58 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 2: recognize that this hasn't had an impact beyond just us, 59 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 2: and never wanted our actions to cause any hurt or 60 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 2: be perceived as careless. We truly appreciate the understanding and 61 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 2: respect as we navigate this. 62 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 3: You get no respecting, you get no understanding. I think 63 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,959 Speaker 3: that it's disgusting. Sierra has not publicly said anything yet, 64 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:32,959 Speaker 3: but there are photos of Sierra outside on the street 65 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 3: in the meatpacking district yesterday around the same time that 66 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 3: this statement was released. She's on the ground outside, crouched 67 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 3: and someone is like consoling her. It seems as if 68 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 3: she's crying. It sucks as someone who's been teams Sierra 69 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 3: since day one, because these guys keep doing her dirty, 70 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 3: and it's so disgusting that someone could be like she's 71 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 3: been so vulnerable about feeling objectified by. 72 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: These men, specifically these white men. But let's get into 73 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: the West of it all, because this situation is specific. 74 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 3: Westin Sierra dated or formed a connection in twenty twenty three. 75 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 3: By the time the reunion aired in twenty twenty four, 76 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 3: they were broken up. We use the term broken up 77 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 3: loosely because of the simple fact that everybody online. 78 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: Has this uproar about were they together? Were they not? 79 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 3: I think that they were together, and that's it. He 80 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 3: took her home to me his parents, which he made 81 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 3: seem as if it wasn't a big deal to Montana. 82 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 3: Who the fuck wants to go hang out with horses Missouri? 83 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 3: But whatever him. Then he took her to his brother's wedding. 84 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,559 Speaker 3: That's a big deal, and made it seem like after 85 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 3: the fact it wasn't a big deal. Oh, these things 86 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 3: aren't big deals to me. They're big deals to women. 87 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 3: You know what I mean, you don't do shit like that. Well, 88 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 3: he played himself with that. Then the summer of twenty 89 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 3: twenty twenty. 90 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 2: You're missing the fact that then he went to the press. 91 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 2: He went to the press and acted like I did 92 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 2: nothing wrong, like woe is me? You know, I just 93 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 2: didn't feel the connection and blah blah blah blah. What 94 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 2: it really was was that he started getting attention from 95 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 2: women fans and he didn't know how to balance that 96 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 2: with having an exclusive relationship discuss. 97 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 1: Which is just gross. 98 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 3: So then Summer twenty twenty four which airs It aired 99 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty five, which is why there's always some 100 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 3: type of like confusion about when these things happened. But 101 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 3: summer of twenty twenty four, Sierra pays him fucking dust. 102 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: The entire summer. 103 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 3: She literally talked to him. He tried to like, hey, 104 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 3: how are you put his arm around her? She's like, 105 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 3: don't touch me. She uses very little words with his 106 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 3: short ass, okay, for a good reason. 107 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 1: She treated him like the scum on the bottom. 108 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 2: Of her shoe, which she should have, and then she 109 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 2: confronted him out a dinner too, and she was like, 110 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 2: you're in the press talking shit about me, and like 111 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 2: that's not the way to handle the situation. Like I've 112 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 2: been in situations like this before and I didn't do that. 113 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 2: Like you just don't know how to handle the fame 114 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 2: and that's not my problem, but you made it my problem. 115 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 2: And he just like is silent. He doesn't speak silent, 116 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:24,119 Speaker 2: he's no backbone. He just has nothing, Like no words 117 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 2: would come out of his mouth. At the reunion, then 118 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 2: the entire season, it was like he couldn't get words out. 119 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:32,359 Speaker 2: So of course people start feeling bad for him. I 120 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:33,239 Speaker 2: was one of those people. 121 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 3: I'm like, some people just don't know how to communicate 122 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 3: their feelings whatever. Celia practically became the president of his 123 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 3: fan club. 124 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 1: I was down bad for him. She loved him, I 125 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 1: like a lot of us did. Yeah, he was. 126 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 2: He's hard. He's kind of hard to not like. Like 127 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 2: he just it's funny and kind of like a teddy bear, 128 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 2: and like was really caring for the girls in the house, 129 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 2: which is like a green flag. But like even after 130 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 2: he did Sierra Dirty the first time, I was like, nah, 131 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 2: fun Like how could you fumble this gorgeous being, but 132 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 2: also I still had like a saft spot because I 133 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 2: thought he was so attractive too. 134 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 3: I think we all did. There's something about him. But 135 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 3: then we come back. They come back this next season, 136 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 3: which is airing now. 137 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: The trailer for this season drops. 138 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 3: And we are made to believe that Sierra and West 139 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 3: have rekindled their connection. People were upset about it. I 140 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 3: think I was one of the people who was like, 141 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 3: fuck no. At the beginning, Yeah, you see it. You 142 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 3: see that they have an emotional conversation, and you're like, 143 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 3: oh God, for me at least, I'm like, oh God, Sierra, please. 144 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 2: And he was like touching her and like they were 145 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 2: like kissing her head right. 146 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 3: But then when the season actually starts and you see 147 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 3: the things that he's saying in professional yes, it makes 148 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 3: you feel like, oh wow, no, he self sabotaged this 149 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 3: whole situation. You start feeling bad for him, like maybe 150 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 3: they just need to have a conversation. The whole we 151 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 3: ship them things starts trending online again. 152 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: People are obsessed. 153 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 3: There are pictures that come out of them at the 154 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 3: Super Bowl together in February, so people are excited, like 155 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 3: we've had a lot of conversations about like are they. 156 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: Is this gonna be a thing? 157 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 2: We fully thought that, sorry to interrupt, we fully thought 158 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 2: that by the end, it's like the reunion would happen 159 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 2: and they would be like announced that they were dating. 160 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, like again and launched. We were expecting that. 161 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, until a few weeks ago, a rumor starts about 162 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 3: the fact that West and Amanda are getting close, and 163 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 3: so I know, I was like, get the fuck out 164 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 3: of here. 165 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 2: She would never do that. We both didn't believe it. 166 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 2: We DMed each other and we were like, this is 167 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 2: like so stupid. 168 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: Like who would make that up? So you like, you're like, 169 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: and then let's rewind. 170 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 3: As the season is going on, Wes is defending Amanda 171 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 3: to Kyle, her husband, and telling him that the way 172 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:57,319 Speaker 3: that he's treating her. 173 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 1: Is disrespectful, disgusting, whatever. So we're all championing for West. 174 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 2: And I mean, he wasn't wrong either. 175 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: You know, this seems like like a savior complex. Yeah, 176 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: that's what I think it is. 177 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 2: And he also wasn't wrong, Like he did do the 178 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 2: right thing by doing that, because Kyle told Amanda, fuck 179 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 2: you and you're a stupid ass, fucking bitch. 180 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:18,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, So like unwarranted. Actually, yeah, it was very unprovoked. 181 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 2: So Kyle was complaining saying that Amanda hung out with 182 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,719 Speaker 2: west More in the last six months, six months than 183 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 2: Amanda hung. 184 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: Out with Kyle. Definitely saw something. Yeah, we weren't seen. 185 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that unfortunately he's vindicated right now. 186 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 3: But anyway, about a week or two ago, the rumor 187 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 3: starts to grow. 188 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 1: It's like a snowball. It's just like getting. 189 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 3: Bigger and bigger. And I know I for the past 190 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 3: few weeks have been like, Okay, well, when are they 191 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 3: gonna like say something, say that this isn't true, Like 192 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 3: what's happening? And why are they letting it continue like this? 193 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 3: It didn't make any sense. Right last Thursday, I think 194 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 3: it was Sierra and Amanda were supposed to do an 195 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 3: Amazon live together and it gets canceled, but not like, 196 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 3: oh this is canceled. They just separated them and they 197 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 3: still done. Yeah, they both did lives, their own individual 198 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 3: lives basically. So people start talking about that and they're like, 199 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 3: what's going on here? People start looking at the likes 200 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 3: and like and realizing that Sierra hadn't liked any of 201 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 3: Amanda's things in a few weeks and so like people 202 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 3: are like, Okay, well there may be some legs to 203 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 3: this what's happening. 204 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 2: Amanda also has a swimsuit line that Sierra really helped 205 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 2: her convince her, like that she has talent and like 206 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 2: creative direction, like she should really do something with it, 207 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 2: that she's bigger than just love her boy, because she 208 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 2: was the creative director for that but got like. 209 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: No royalties for it. 210 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 2: So Siera like would cry for her and was like, 211 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 2: you were so much better than this, and like she's 212 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 2: been so vulnerable and such a great friend to Amanda. Anyways, 213 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 2: Amanda launched the swim line last year and Sierra un 214 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,959 Speaker 2: followed it the same day that the Amazon Live got 215 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 2: like split up, So that was for me, that was 216 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 2: also a really big telltale. I was like, oh shit, 217 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 2: something's like really going down. 218 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 3: This rumor was one of those rumors that no one 219 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 3: gave a fuck about life, Like people were talking about it, 220 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 3: but it was like this would never be true. 221 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: It was so farfetting, like, yeah, nobody believed it. I 222 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: really don't think. I don't know anyone who did. 223 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,319 Speaker 2: And I like all of my friends watch the show 224 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 2: and like aren't very invested and I don't know anyone 225 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 2: who believed it at the first. 226 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 3: Glance, But then it continues to grow to the point 227 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 3: where Sunday going into Monday, this is all that any 228 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 3: of my group chats anything online. 229 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: This is my whole timeline, and everyone is saying the 230 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 1: same thing. 231 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,719 Speaker 3: It goes from this cold would never be true to well, 232 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 3: if it is, this would be fucked up. It turns 233 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 3: into I don't know the fact that no one is 234 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 3: saying anything and that there are little things going on. 235 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 3: People from the show started dropping like means of themselves 236 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 3: making like different faces. But also Dumoin came out with 237 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:09,199 Speaker 3: that for back to Dumant because I'm because I disappointed 238 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 3: in that. That was first, and then the cast started posting 239 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 3: the reaction is so so and this is another thing, 240 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 3: right because dumin is known for just throwing shit out 241 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 3: there and whatever stick sticks. We never know officially what 242 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 3: this blog, what's true from this blog, and what's not 243 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 3: because this always is based off of anonymous tips submissions. Yeah, 244 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 3: so tell everyone what the post said. 245 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 2: It suggested that there was proof of Amanda and West 246 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 2: being together and that's why the Amazon Live was canceled. 247 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 3: And that was what made everyone start saying this, this, 248 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 3: this could be true. This is where you know, like, 249 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 3: what the fuck is going on? So that's when the 250 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 3: people start posting. But there are reports that Bravo has 251 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,559 Speaker 3: told the cast not to say anything because they're filming 252 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 3: the reunion in two weeks, so. 253 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: They tell everybody to be quiet. 254 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 3: The way around being quiet is I guess the cast 255 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 3: posting pictures of them being shocked and shit like you 256 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 3: know whatever, feed in the little roaches that we are basically, 257 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 3: and then yesterday at around one pm, we get the 258 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 3: shock of our lives with that damn joint statement, which 259 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:18,079 Speaker 3: is disgusting, and we've all had to pretend to go 260 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 3: along with our lives since then. I know people who 261 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 3: I mean. I was driving and I just stopped my car. 262 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 3: I could not drive. 263 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 2: How did you find out? Was it from I? I 264 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 2: txted you the screenshot. 265 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 3: Yes, and you and my family group chat went off 266 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 3: around the same time. So I'm getting text and I'm like, 267 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 3: what the hell is going on? I open it and 268 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 3: I see this and I'm like. 269 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:42,559 Speaker 2: Holy fucking shit, yeah kind of shit is going on 270 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 2: the earth shattered. When Amanda Press post like the Earth shattered, 271 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 2: I saw her Instagram story one minute after it was 272 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 2: one minute like the screenshowt that I sent you one minute? 273 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 2: I started tearing up for Sierra immediately. Yeah, that's my 274 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 2: close personal friend, Siarah Miller. Like I love her so 275 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 2: much that I was tearing up. I felt sick, I 276 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 2: was shaking. And then to see that all he did 277 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 2: was just reposted. 278 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:14,439 Speaker 1: This same fucking thing, the same fucking thing. What's wrong 279 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: with you? I know people who walked out of meetings. 280 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 2: Oh oh my godness of this, like this is this? 281 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 2: People couldn't continue their work day. 282 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: I went to the gym. 283 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 3: I ended up going to the gym, and more shit 284 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 3: was coming out as I was in the gym, and 285 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 3: I remember I told my trainer. I was like, I 286 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 3: can't focus. Please let me go to the treadmill and 287 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 3: walk for the rest of the time that I'm here. 288 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 3: I cannot do this. My as you said, close personal friend, 289 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 3: Sierra Miller struggling. It's going through a hard time and 290 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 3: I need. 291 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: To be there for her. 292 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, this woman doesn't even know why I exist, but 293 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 3: she's on my heart. I could not I couldn't sleep 294 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 3: last night, and I woke up this morning and it 295 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 3: was the first thing I thought about you too. And 296 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 3: then there's the racial aspect to this that I'm happy 297 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 3: that some people are talking about. For those who don't watch, 298 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 3: there was an episode that aired a few weeks ago 299 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 3: where Sierra talked about the first time that she and 300 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 3: west dated and when they broke up and everybody found 301 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 3: out about you know, what was going on, the racial 302 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 3: element to that, and how hard it was for her 303 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 3: because she had people. I have to be honest, I 304 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 3: am one of those people who was like, you let 305 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 3: this fucking white man play you on national fucking TV. 306 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 3: Stand the fuck up and stop crying. I can't. 307 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Okay, I believe. 308 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 3: I believe in reparations, and this is not it. This 309 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 3: is the complete and total opposite of it. Okay, you 310 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 3: Westling have fucked me up. This is generational deep it 311 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 3: is I can't, like. 312 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: I can't. So she sat down at this. 313 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 3: Table and talked so vulnerably and just like to me, 314 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 3: it like stripped her of all her armor to have 315 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 3: this conversation, knowing that these cameras were up in that 316 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 3: this would be air nationally. Right, She's talking about the 317 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 3: fact that like people don't think about the things that 318 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 3: she has to deal with racially. 319 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: It was heartbreaking to watch. 320 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 3: I was even one of those people who felt like 321 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 3: this happened years ago, you should be over this by now. 322 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 3: So this was an eye opener because it made me 323 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 3: look inward, like you're even being insensitive as a black woman. 324 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 3: You're not even thinking about the fact that you're one 325 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 3: of the people who did this to her, telling her that, 326 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 3: you know, get over it and don't let this white 327 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 3: man play you. But it's true, but it's still it 328 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 3: doesn't make it any easier for somebody to deal with. 329 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 2: YEA. 330 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: So we have that deep conversation. 331 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 3: She talks about the fact that these men look at 332 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 3: her as like something to conquer, and then you perpetuate 333 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 3: the narrative or confirm it honestly by being so willing 334 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 3: to walk through this fire or darkness, whatever it is 335 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 3: with this woman, even though you never wanted a relationship 336 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 3: with me, Like you didn't even want a peaceful relationship 337 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 3: with me. 338 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 1: Do you know what that does to somebody like that 339 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 1: is it's it's it's so heartbreaking. I feel so bad 340 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 1: for me. 341 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:26,199 Speaker 2: I feel sick for her, and also like she is 342 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 2: literally like the hottest woman to walk this earth. Both 343 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 2: inside and out. She's so smart, so funny, so nice, 344 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 2: so beautiful. She has every quality that a man would 345 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 2: want or anyone would want. And I just hope that 346 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 2: she knows that I have faith that she's going to 347 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:50,360 Speaker 2: find a great man who will like appreciate her inside 348 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 2: and out and will be there for her and won't 349 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 2: screw her over like this. 350 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 3: She just deserves so much better, and I'm sending her 351 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 3: so much. 352 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 2: She's going to step the fuck up, and I'm so 353 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 2: excited for her because I think this is going to open. 354 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 2: As bad as it is, it's going to open so 355 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 2: many doors for her. Like Amanda's campaign with Edie Parker, 356 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 2: I don't know if I say that, but got wiped 357 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 2: within an hour, which. 358 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:18,439 Speaker 1: Okay, so let's talk about that. 359 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 3: Celia mentioned earlier that Amanda ended up losing a brand 360 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 3: deal because of all of this. The announcement had just dropped, 361 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 3: and remember this was the only thing that we'd heard 362 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 3: from Amanda while all of these rumors were swirling. 363 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: So anyway, it. 364 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 3: Dropped at like ten am I don't know, and it 365 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 3: was wiped off the internet by one thirty. 366 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 2: I don't know who allowed again that statement to be 367 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 2: released this same day that your brand deal is coming out. 368 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 3: But you know what, there may have been a lot 369 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 3: of comments under the post on that page. 370 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:51,239 Speaker 1: I don't know. 371 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 3: So the brand drops her and dumint and Amanda hersh 372 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 3: not skinny but not fast. Yeah, I'm very disappointed in 373 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 3: the both of them because they posted that they were 374 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 3: disappointed in the brand for dropping her. For you all 375 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 3: to now be defending this white woman after the race 376 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 3: conversation has already been put out there, it's funny to me, 377 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 3: and I'm not laughing, you know. It's one of those 378 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 3: things that's like, uh huh. And so when people bring 379 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 3: up the fact that race is involved in a lot 380 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 3: of things, I don't ever want people to say that 381 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 3: it's not ever again. Yeah, because when this happened to Ariana, 382 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 3: it was a different story. Scandaval was not the same story. Agree, 383 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 3: But when Scandval happened, the world stopped it. When this 384 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 3: white woman was hurt, the world stopped And there were 385 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 3: nuances and layers to that situation as well. So I'm 386 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 3: not gonna take that away from the Scandval situation. However, 387 00:19:54,400 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 3: you bullied Raquel into an impatient facility. So for you guys, 388 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 3: because these are the same blogs that we're posting shit 389 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 3: and saying things for you to sit here and talk 390 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 3: about a fucking stupid ass brand deal that somebody lost 391 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 3: because their integrity is being questioned. 392 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 2: Fuck you, also, like, there's what there's consequences to your actions, 393 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 2: and that is the result of that. She absolutely deserved 394 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 2: to lose that brand. 395 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 3: And also wait until it's a fucking moral to say 396 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 3: why you don't believe that she should have lost a 397 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 3: fucking brandle. This girl is on the street fucking crying 398 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 3: being held by somebody, you know what I mean, And 399 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 3: we're talking about Amanda. So yeah, moral of the story is, 400 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 3: we've gone way over time with this. 401 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 1: We've stretched it as far as we could go. 402 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 3: I mean, there are so many other layers that we 403 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 3: could dig into, but I'm just thankful that you guys 404 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 3: have listened this far. We're probably gonna do more of these, 405 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 3: so stay tuned and let me know what reality shows 406 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 3: you want us to talk about. And let this specific 407 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,199 Speaker 3: case be a lesson that you need to treat your 408 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 3: friends better. And when you don't treat your friends well 409 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 3: and you don't do right by people who have done 410 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 3: right by you, your karma is instant. I hope Amanda 411 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 3: as well. She has been vocal about her mental health issues, 412 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 3: so I hope that she's okay. At the same time, 413 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 3: I hope that the people around her are holding her 414 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 3: accountable for her actions because this is deplorable justice for 415 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 3: Kyle and love her boy, but we're always gonna ride 416 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 3: for Team Sierra.