1 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: Welcome on it into the Command Center podcast. I'm Logan Paulson 2 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: here with the very patriotic Fred Smoot and Santana Moss guys, 3 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: and he plans for the fourth of July. 4 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 2: Well, let me tell you a story. I almost went 5 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 2: to the military. 6 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: I did not know that. Fred, You're like the most 7 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: interesting man in the world. I feel like you have 8 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: a And this is the thing about Fred. Listen, listeners, 9 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: just dial this in. Fred knows a lot about everything, 10 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: just to be just enough to be dangerous. And you 11 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 1: gotta fact check everything, fat Fred says, because he's got 12 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: enough file on stuff that you're like that could be true. 13 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if it is true. 14 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 3: I just say to doing his things in time, I 15 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 3: want some Clint said, yeah, I want to. 16 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: I okay, it's true though. So you were in the military. No, 17 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: I wanted to be Okay, you wanted to be in 18 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: the military. I think you've actually told me. 19 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 4: Before football would have failed. I was headed to be 20 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 4: a marine. 21 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: Really, it'll strike me as a marine though, Why not? 22 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 1: Because I don't know if you've got that grint to you. Brother, 23 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: I never met I never I've never met a marine 24 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 1: that talks as much as y'all tell you that, I forget. 25 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 4: What that would have made me private. I would have 26 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 4: been a different private than they ever had. But if 27 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 4: you're gonna go do something, why not do it at 28 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 4: the top. And I got a chance to go to 29 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 4: Quantico like two weeks ago. A week ago, I thought 30 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 4: Cortico was one building. 31 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 2: It's an entire town. 32 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: It's a military base. 33 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 2: It's beyond a base, but a military city. 34 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 1: But that's what that's what basis are. 35 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 2: No. 36 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 4: I have been to some of these bases around here, 37 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 4: and they are they are relatively small. 38 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 3: Europe bases are much different. I want to Germany and 39 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 3: those basis was like. 40 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 2: A time and that's what Cornico was. It was like Ashburn. 41 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 4: So I think I was just always meant to be 42 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 4: a part of a team dynamic like I was like. 43 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 4: And I think that's why I chased the military. But 44 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 4: what I really want to bring up am I the 45 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 4: only person that cherished When I go to a good 46 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 4: grill session, I want a hot dog, a hot dog. 47 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 4: But now my kids shame me for eating hot dogs. 48 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 4: They call them glizzies. 49 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is a weird. That is a thing. Eat 50 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:14,839 Speaker 1: your hot talks, friend. 51 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 3: They got a sand they got a saying, I'm pretty 52 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 3: sure it's gonna get bleep. 53 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 2: Kids. 54 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 3: You can sit there and tell me what you want 55 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 3: to tell me. But I'm gonna eat that hot dog. 56 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 3: I'm gonna put my ketchup and mouth on it and 57 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 3: my relish and I'm enjoy it. A crossing my las 58 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 3: at the same time while I'm doing my kids walk 59 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 3: past me. 60 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 2: My kids me laughing. Daddy got a glitzy in it. 61 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 4: And it took me a long time to figure out 62 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 4: what I had to call my other old friends keep 63 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 4: talking about glizzes over that, like yeah, I. 64 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 2: Like, do you know what that is? I'm like, no, 65 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 2: do you know what it is? 66 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: It doesn't sound good. Let me just say that, and 67 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: is it podcast? Before you say it is a podcast friendly? 68 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 2: It's nothing friendly? 69 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: Okay, So I'm saying this, So let's just say you 70 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: can look this up on your own, yes, and we'll 71 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: figure it out. 72 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,959 Speaker 4: And if your kids talk about glizzes around you while 73 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 4: you eating a hot dog, you out of one on front. 74 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: Right, Yep, yep, that's exactly right. So so we talked 75 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: about hot dogs. Do you actually have plans for Fourth 76 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: of July? That was my initial question, and we learned 77 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: all about your history with the military and hot dogs. 78 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 4: The history I didn't help with the Yeah, yeah, I'm 79 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 4: going to Esst Festival. That's where I go every year, 80 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 4: me and my friend. This is our guys trip. We've 81 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 4: been doing it since college. The Essay Festival is where 82 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 4: they go in New Orleans. They have all these concerts 83 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 4: beyond say everybody all day long. It's the party, but 84 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 4: it's really a drinker's fast. It's really three days. 85 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 2: Listen. 86 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 4: I bring an extra kitteny with me. All I'm telling 87 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 4: you it's none stopping. The one thing I love about 88 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 4: New Orleans. 89 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 2: To New Orleans, the food is unbelievable. All the drinks 90 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 2: are three for one. Like listen, I ain't been so 91 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 2: being New Orleans since. 92 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 4: I was born. All I'm saying is this the fourth 93 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 4: of July. I bring it in only like America should 94 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 4: in New Order. 95 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: So it sounds like we need to put a tracking 96 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: device on to make sure it. 97 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 5: Might be and he might be. 98 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 1: Wake up on the grounds, out of country, missing a 99 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: kidney and a place somewhere. 100 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 2: I woke up in places you don't know, you don't 101 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 2: want to know. 102 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: I can imagine. 103 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 3: How about you, uh, well, you know one of the things, Well, 104 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 3: my tradition mostly has always been like a pool party 105 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 3: on the July. Growing up, my aunt, her daughter was 106 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 3: born on the fifth of July, so she always had 107 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 3: a birthday on the fourth, and to. 108 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 2: Be a big pool party. 109 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 5: After the pool party is five ors, we like to 110 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 5: like to block up. 111 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 2: So I kind of took that on. 112 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 3: When I got me some money and I'm made into 113 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 3: the league, I wanted to be the guy the whole 114 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 3: show and host those uh, those those outings or whatever. 115 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 3: And but lately I just been I've been feeling old. 116 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 2: Man. 117 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 3: I've been feeling like you didn't get to the point 118 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 3: where you get tired doing all that hosting. 119 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 5: And I'm actually tea them now, like, man, you know what, 120 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 5: if you got a party. 121 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 2: Invite me to it. I don't want to be the 122 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 2: ones something next. It's different. Look, I remember that. 123 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 3: I remember the days when we was playing and I 124 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 3: wur host these these forty July shen Dicks and I 125 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 3: remember having like my little cousins sweep up the street 126 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 3: and it's I'm talking about. 127 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 5: Tons of stuff I'm talking about I used to buy. 128 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 3: I just spent over five thousand dollars worth of you 129 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 3: know five, you know, I buy that stuff that they 130 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 3: say do not. 131 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 5: I'm not ashamed to say I was one of those guys. 132 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 2: I was, you know, but the sweep up is crazy. 133 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 3: I remember paying my little cousins man one hundred dollars apiece, 134 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 3: and they used that used to be the highlight of 135 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 3: their year. Like, man, I'm going to that party because 136 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 3: I'm gonna get me a hundred from tene. 137 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 5: But nowadays, man, look here, I like to keep it 138 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 5: a little laid back. 139 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 2: Probably swept up a couple of Jason's Pierre Finger. My god, 140 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 2: we was. We was careful. We were very careful. Man. 141 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 3: We look you you would see one dude liking and 142 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 3: everybody us standing back. So we always had that you 143 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 3: know that part on lock. But nowadays, man, like my son, 144 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 3: my youngest boy, he mentioned it one for the July 145 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 3: I ain't have no fireworks, and I just happened to 146 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 3: be down there because normally I'm up here, I might 147 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 3: be going to what that called Middletown when we go 148 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 3: do the Yeah, I do the parades, you know what 149 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm Marshall or something like that. For their parade, 150 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 3: my son I come home one year and the first 151 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 3: thing he said to me was like, this is a 152 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 3: born for the July. And I'm like, he's like, man, 153 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 3: we used to have fire and I felt that I hurt. 154 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 3: I'm talking about as a dad, you always want to 155 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 3: make your kids happy. 156 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 2: And I felt so bad that last. 157 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 3: Year was the most recent for the July. I made 158 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 3: sure I spent by. I ain't spend five, I spun 159 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 3: two thousand. I got me some fireworks, and as we 160 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 3: sitting there part with them, I didn't want to do it. 161 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 3: And I'm sitting there like, yeah, I'm old, I'm getting 162 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 3: I'm getting to that point the where, yeah, my son 163 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 3: wanted this, but this might be the. 164 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 2: Last time I do it, you know what I mean. 165 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 3: But honestly, man, I think it's just all about making 166 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 3: those kids happy. So I would probably still see myself 167 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,679 Speaker 3: having some kind of gun and whether it's we're gonna 168 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 3: do a bunch of them, we have some for them 169 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 3: just to have some fun. You know. 170 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 5: So what do you do? 171 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 2: Cheat? 172 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: Man? 173 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 2: Well? 174 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: I do cheat. Man. I'm probably just hang out my 175 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: family barbecue, you know, and we're gonna go up to 176 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: Cape Cod. 177 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 2: Give me on the boat, give me the menu. It 178 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 2: a Logan pousings By. 179 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: It's like it's normal barbecue Stoll who. 180 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 2: Makes the potato sad. It doesn't have raised and. 181 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: We're not having potato salad. You're talking about this empty 182 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: carbs there, my guy, we're not doing that. 183 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 2: People are getting. 184 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: Fred Man. I always count carbs Thanksgiving, counting carbs, the 185 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: whole thing. Man, you don't look this average not counting carbs. 186 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: I just tell you that right now. 187 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 4: Your kid gotta be like daddy could be the board 188 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 4: and his dad about he took us out of America. 189 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: I did take my kids to Disneyland, and they love 190 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: it America, I know, but it's like a big thing. 191 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: That's like our big trip. You know what I'm saying. 192 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 4: We say they rapped the rise when you go, yeah, no, 193 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 4: I can't do that no more. I took my kids 194 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 4: to Keen to mean they had a new ride. They 195 00:07:59,040 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 4: just opened up. 196 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 2: There was a year. Yes, I literally I got beyond sick. 197 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 2: I was on the ride. 198 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 4: I told my kids this is the last time ever. Yeah, 199 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 4: Fred Smooth gets on the ride. I got nothing I got. 200 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: I don't do the big rides. My kids are my kids. 201 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: My son's nine, My daughter's six. So they're like, you know, 202 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: they're like the gold Rush Ride, the Swash Mountain, that 203 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: type of stuff. I'm not doing the like the vocal 204 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: raptor of the Universal. 205 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 4: I've lost that three ye, Like, I don't have that 206 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 4: adventure seeking anymore. 207 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 3: Hey, I'm gonna tell a quick stird. When we was 208 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 3: at the Busch Garden event for the team just recently. 209 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 2: I said, you know what, I'm here. Let me get 210 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 2: on a couple of year roller coasters. Just I got 211 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 2: I'm old. I lost my stomach. My stomach ain't the same. 212 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 5: I used to get on the ride and throw my 213 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 5: hands up in there. 214 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 4: Man. 215 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 2: I was on that thing, grabbing everything I could grab. 216 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 2: My stomach was up in my mouth somewhere. 217 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, this is not for me anymore. 218 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm one of those guys too. Man, I'm 219 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 2: to the wanting to right now. 220 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 5: I just want to enjoy. 221 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 2: Life is over. I don't have so much fun. It's 222 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 2: fun to me is just being alive years old. He's 223 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 2: not lying, man, Look I'm happy. I'm done. 224 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 4: Knew I wasn't supposed to do. I said, I'm gonna 225 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 4: sky die. Last year we got up there in the plane. 226 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 4: I'm tied to the dude. I'm like, nah, you said no, 227 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 4: the plane go down, drop me off. They were like, well, 228 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 4: we already charge you for it, so be it. I am. 229 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 2: Listen. 230 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 4: When I got up there and looked down, then I 231 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 4: was already worried because this dude is scrapped. 232 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 2: I'm like, nah, this ain't gonna work. No. 233 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 4: They were like all right, and they took me right 234 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 4: back down, And that's when I knew you Brench moved 235 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 4: the three year seeker. 236 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 2: He's done. 237 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: Let's kind of let's kind of get this back, you know, 238 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: like those are good football or or fourth of the 239 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 1: life stories. Let's get this back to some football stuff, 240 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: right right, So like, let's imagine, you know, paint this picture. 241 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: They got the hamburgers on the grill, the hot dogs 242 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,599 Speaker 1: are getting ready, potato salads gotten raisins in it. 243 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:06,959 Speaker 2: Whatever we got we don't do raisins. 244 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: We got fireworks getting ready. Kids are going nuts in 245 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: the background. Let's talk some football man. Maybe maybe we're 246 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 1: on the cornhole table. Whatever we got, you know what 247 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So let's just let me ask you this. 248 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:17,839 Speaker 1: Let's see if you can say the power of it 249 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: are we too hyped about Sam Howe. 250 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 2: No, no, because we need to be hyping if we 251 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 2: don't believe in them who that's our quarterback. 252 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:27,599 Speaker 3: We have to be hyped by the guys that you 253 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,199 Speaker 3: have that's coming into this season that's going to leave 254 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 3: your team, regardless who they are. 255 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I get that, But I'm saying, like everyone 256 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,359 Speaker 1: right now, are fans too hyped about him? Like our 257 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: expectations realist? 258 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,079 Speaker 4: He lived for tasting our mouth the last game he 259 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 4: left for tasting our mouth, and we want more. 260 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:45,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, you know what when you go to Costco, 261 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 2: which I'm sure your wife do not. You go to Costco, 262 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 2: you know how they give you them they live food. Yeah, 263 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 2: how many times have you ate this saus like you 264 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 2: know for that went back? 265 00:10:56,440 --> 00:11:00,719 Speaker 4: Give me another, give me another list that taste in 266 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,319 Speaker 4: our mouth? They Costco taste and we want more. And 267 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 4: let's just be honest. It can't get no worse than 268 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:06,959 Speaker 4: what we had. 269 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, they can't get no worse. I love so be 270 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 2: can't get any where. We can only go forward. 271 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 1: That's my that's my favorite argument you made so far 272 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: is that it can't get much worse than it was 273 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 1: last year. I think he's more talented than Heinike. Obviously 274 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: he likes the experience, but the release the ball, velos, 275 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: see the movement skills right, it's there for him. It's 276 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: just but I think a lot of people I don't 277 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: know what I talked. 278 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 3: I think we get his league too much credit for 279 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 3: for kind of like killing quarterbacks. 280 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: What do you mean? 281 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 3: And when I want to because it's a lot of 282 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:41,839 Speaker 3: quarterbacks come through these doors from the collegiate stage and 283 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 3: perform well in the college get to the NFL. 284 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 2: They're not prototypical, no more. They not. 285 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 3: They can't they can't read or can't do this. They 286 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 3: can't read a defense, they can't be a pocket passer. 287 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 2: It has changed. 288 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 3: The offenses these days have changed and more college like that, 289 00:11:58,160 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 3: more cottage like. 290 00:11:59,040 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 2: They're more with the spread. 291 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 5: Now you see four or five receivers starting. 292 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 3: I never saw Monday night game where I'm seeing five 293 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 3: receivers saying they're starting or wide receiver receive five wide. 294 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 2: Receivers that's on the Monday night. You know, you know, 295 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 2: start lineup. 296 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:16,559 Speaker 3: So the offense are now more open up to these 297 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 3: guys that played well in the cottage level. They they've 298 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 3: created their environment for the quarterbacks to come in and 299 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 3: feel that they're not having to be different from what 300 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 3: they was when they played in the collegiate level. 301 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 2: So I think a lot of folks that still stuck. 302 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 3: On the Peyton Manny, the Drew Breeses, the Tom Brady's, 303 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:38,839 Speaker 3: they stuck in that era that this is who the 304 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 3: quarterback is supposed to look like, where they don't look like. 305 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 3: Sam Hoow is not none of those guys. But I 306 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 3: can tell you it's a lot of guys in the 307 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 3: league right. 308 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 2: Now he looks like. 309 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: And have an example, who does he look like right now? 310 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 3: Well, I just spoken one to me if we had 311 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 3: the bank on anything. And I'm not talking about Tony 312 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 3: romocause he's not the only game in the league. If 313 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,080 Speaker 3: I had to pick one guy in the league. 314 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 5: That he shows me the same caliber of style of play. 315 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 3: And this is not a guy that I'm saying that 316 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 3: out there and play phenomenal, but he beats us every time. 317 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:10,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, Daniel Jones, I love that compact because I look 318 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 5: at it like, I'm like. 319 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 2: When things break down, what can we count on Sam 320 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 2: to do? And he does well? 321 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, be elusive and can you maximize that rushing ability. 322 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: I think that's one of the things. Like look at 323 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts two years ago, right, like he elevated that 324 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:27,559 Speaker 1: offense through a designed quarterback running seam. Now, I'm not 325 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 1: saying Jalen Hurts or Sam Hollis, Jalen Hurts is a runner. 326 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: But like with Daniel Jones, for example, they run two 327 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:37,599 Speaker 1: quarterback draws a game, they run one quarterback counter and 328 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:39,319 Speaker 1: then they run a lot of keepers and stuff to 329 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: get him on the perimeter and he can get and 330 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:45,959 Speaker 1: they steal first down. And Daniel Jones does not have 331 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: to be perfect. And that's the thing that's that's awesome 332 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: is can you find a wrinkle as a coordinator to 333 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: put your quarterback in that stock. 334 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 3: It's the threat of being to now have to say, 335 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 3: now only can this guy pass the ball on us 336 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 3: when he needs to, but he can run having that 337 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 3: threat that see Barkley like. 338 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 2: Hold on, y'all tried me. 339 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 3: I don't want this little easily this ten million dollars 340 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 3: because I feel like I made Daniel Jones better. Yes, 341 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 3: so just put now Sam Howard in that situation. The 342 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 3: threat of having those two backs that we have and 343 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,959 Speaker 3: him that can run on you. Yeah, if it's gotta be, 344 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 3: they gotta. 345 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 2: Play so sound. 346 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 3: They can't sit there and turn their backs at no 347 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 3: time when he drops back and show that past, they 348 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 3: can't turn their backs because guess what if he sees 349 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 3: no one open, I'm getting four or five. 350 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 2: Yards on it every time. 351 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 3: That's why, that's why everybody should feel the way Fred 352 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 3: is feeling about Sam Howard, because I feel I have 353 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 3: that same optimism that. 354 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 5: He can be deadly in a new scheme offense that 355 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 5: no one has seen us run. 356 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,479 Speaker 2: They go to dead with so many different. 357 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: Weapons that but I think that's I'm glad you've made 358 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: that comp to Daniel Jones. He's Daniel Jones is a 359 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: what is he like? A top sixteen quarterback in the NFL, 360 00:14:58,120 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: and I think he's going to get better. Yeah, But 361 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: I I think that's gotta be what fans and what 362 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: people are thinking about. It's not it's not a top 363 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: five quarterback, not a top ten quarterback. Probably a top 364 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: twenty quarterback can win your game. That can win your games. 365 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: That's exactly if you can. 366 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 2: Win the super Bowl with that. 367 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 4: Think about this, If you're a top thirty two quarterback, 368 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 4: you're a starring quarterback. 369 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 2: Eight billion people on this planet. We ain't found you 370 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 2: love this one? 371 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: You love you love this one? 372 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 2: Man, SyRI that oh it is to play quarter. 373 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: That's true. 374 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 4: So when you got one that just okay, you better 375 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 4: put him on the pede. Like so at the end 376 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 4: of the day, to have a guy in the top twenty, 377 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 4: you win it. 378 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: You're feeling good, right, you're feeling good, especially with this 379 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: defense playing well. But he's not. I guess what I 380 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: want want to just make clear. He's not gonna lead 381 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: the ship. He's gonna be elevated by We don't know 382 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: that but Fred and we're just playing percentages. Man. And 383 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: I know you like craps and blackjack and all that stuff, 384 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: and you like to put it like the lottery. And 385 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: I'm saying, if you're, if you're, if you're gonna bet 386 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: your house on him leading the team. 387 00:15:56,280 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 4: Right now, Manti, it is Sam high with hell four 388 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 4: thousand yards, thirty touchdowns. 389 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: How many interceptions? 390 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 2: Ten? 391 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: Whoa my guy? 392 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 4: That's damn four thousand yards just for thirty touchdowns. 393 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: Just just for some context, Shalon Hurts had thirty seven 394 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: hundred yards last year. 395 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 2: Got nothing to do me. 396 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: I'm just saying that that is a big number. 397 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 4: Four thousand yards, thirty touchdowns brow Yeah, how many did 398 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 4: we had last year? 399 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 2: They can't wins? 400 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: We got Jason our research expert on it. 401 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 4: So what I'm saying is, if you look at YEA, 402 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 4: what you're saying, he played in North Carolina, you put 403 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 4: E B with it. 404 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: But North Carolina? Which which year in North Carolina? That's 405 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: the question everybody. 406 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 2: Left from his senior. He was by saying why he 407 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 2: risks now? But yeah, So I'm just. 408 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 3: Saying his senior shows you what you really can get 409 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 3: from a guy that. I mean, his junior was phenomenon. 410 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 3: Dammy Brown played like a first round wires you know, 411 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 3: and that's why you kind of like you think about it. 412 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 5: We got weapons in front of Diami Brown like. 413 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 2: He can't get on the field once played with this dude. 414 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:09,199 Speaker 3: So just the thing if you had to look at 415 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:13,719 Speaker 3: this as a six man basketball team, Jommy Brown being 416 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 3: the six man, yeah, and a lot you get him 417 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 3: coming in the game with Sam and Sam knows this guy, Well, yeah. 418 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 5: We poping man we have. That's why. 419 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 3: I'm hanging my hat on this offensive line being the 420 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 3: officer line that we expect him to be much improved 421 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 3: officer line man. 422 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 2: We should be daily offensively man, all right. 423 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: So we just got this in Jason. Great job. Twenty 424 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: three touchdowns last year for quarterbacks combined. 425 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 2: I think Sam is gonna play a lot freer. 426 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 4: I know for a fact he got a better office 427 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 4: coordinator y and I just think he had better pass 428 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,640 Speaker 4: than both of them. So at the end of the day, 429 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 4: I'm giving him thirty touchdowns four thousand yards. 430 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:55,719 Speaker 1: You're worried about him being like a rookie at all, 431 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 1: like like kind of his first time seeing NFL, Like 432 00:17:58,240 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: NFL defenses. 433 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 2: Not look too big to him. 434 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 4: I just watching them player against Michael Parsons and Teyvon Diggs, 435 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 4: Like I watched him player against the top ten defense already. 436 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 4: It didn't look like it was too big for me. 437 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 2: And that's all I want to see. 438 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 3: And one of the and I ain't mean to cut 439 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 3: off one of the things that I'm always you know, 440 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 3: hold my hat on. It's just like I said, it's 441 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 3: not all on him defensively too. If you watch that 442 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 3: game when they played against the Cowboys, our defense put 443 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,360 Speaker 3: him in situations where he couldn't do nothing. 444 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 1: But I was about to say, you know, you know, 445 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: punch it in. 446 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 3: So when you look at what we're doing defensively and 447 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 3: then collectively as a team, that's what makes these quarterbacks. 448 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 5: A lot of these quarterbacks have went the championships. 449 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 3: We watched a quarterback when I was coming out of 450 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 3: the college in two thousand, the Baltimore Ravens went went 451 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 3: to the championship. Different with Trent Death. What was the 452 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 3: what was the key component to them going to the 453 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 3: Super Bowl that year? 454 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,360 Speaker 2: Running defense? 455 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 1: And he rushed for two thousand yards. 456 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, Lewis, But if you just take the two thousand 457 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 3: yards out of it, the defense alone. When I watched 458 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 3: those guys played the Super Bowl, the defense won the 459 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 3: game alone. 460 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 2: It was a punk return for a touchdown and. 461 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 5: All, and the defense still showed these guys just what 462 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 5: got us here? 463 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 3: So, and I'm not saying that we the Baltimore Ravens 464 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 3: defense from two thousand, but if you have a defense 465 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 3: that can get after the quarterback, that can cause confusion, 466 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 3: that can play the way we trying to play in 467 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 3: the secondary. 468 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 5: Sure, Samuel hasn't He doesn't have to be great. 469 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 2: It's be good, just be good. 470 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: You had a talent around you know, That's why I 471 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: think the Daniel Jones compa is excellent. The other one 472 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 1: that came to me while we were talking was Jake 473 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: Clumber from Uh Yeah, The Snake Man. 474 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 2: Jake Snake was very elusive. 475 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 4: He used to do a lot of bootlegs with the snake, 476 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 4: and the snake had a cannon for the really pushed 477 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 4: the ball down field of Rod Smith and Ed McCaffery. 478 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 2: I wouldn't say, listen, I just don't. 479 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 4: I think everybody sleeps on how great of an athlete 480 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 4: Tony Romo was, Like I think. 481 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 2: People forget how elusive After the back surgery, of course, 482 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 2: he wasn't elusive no more. Before then, Tony was man. 483 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 4: I had to match my receiver all the time with 484 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 4: him because he would get out of the pocket and 485 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 4: make things happen. 486 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 2: So I just I see a lot of in him. 487 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 2: He was quiet with it, man, Like he didn't really 488 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 2: you didn't. 489 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 3: You didn't come in the game saying like how we 490 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 3: do with Daniel Jones, Like, man, this guy is gonna 491 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 3: break one on us on third down, so watch him. 492 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:25,479 Speaker 2: He just did it. Bro. 493 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 3: He was just so smart and educated on what was 494 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 3: going on. Like he didn't make a he did not 495 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 3: allow us to have them. You know, uh in a 496 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 3: situation where it was a bad play when we locked 497 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 3: there because you know there's white and I give that 498 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 3: with this white one of the win. He was a 499 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 3: great receiver, but he didn't separate a lot from games. 500 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 3: I mean, my bad de Brian, my bad. Yeah, not 501 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 3: that white. Dez Bryan's white played the Chicago he was. 502 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 3: But Daz Bryan is one of those receivers where he 503 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 3: was dominant at just catching. He had, he had hands 504 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 3: that he caught everything that was in his the point 505 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 3: of attack. But Tony Romo made a lot of that possible. 506 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 3: And when he wasn't open to Romo ran right behind 507 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 3: y'all as you as Davis Bryan running up the Fiell 508 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 3: on a go route and he's blanketing to Romo behind 509 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 3: your running and you look back like that. 510 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 4: This man took twenty And don't forget about Jason Witton 511 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 4: wasn't getting no separation. He put he just putting the 512 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 4: balls where it needs to be in Sam hasht But 513 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 4: Nakolo when it comes to where am I throwing the 514 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 4: ball to? 515 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 3: Sam showed me a lot in college, you know, and 516 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 3: I and I say this a lot I also know 517 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 3: the universe of Miami teams that he was playing against 518 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 3: was not the universe of Miami of old. But when 519 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 3: I watched him play, I'm like, what the hell is 520 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 3: this quarterback from North Carolina dominating like this? And he 521 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 3: did some of the same things I saw him doing 522 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 3: the preseason, and in that last game when things wasn't there, 523 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 3: he took off. And so you know, when I'm watching 524 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 3: him last year in the preseason, like, if you had 525 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 3: to ask me, who was the better quarterback in. 526 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 5: The preseason before the season started, was Sam House? 527 00:21:59,240 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 2: Sam House? 528 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 3: He came in that last game when we expected our 529 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,120 Speaker 3: offense to be clicking a little bit. That third game, 530 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 3: we didn't see nothing to Sam Howe got in the game, 531 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So to see this guy 532 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 3: sit out the entire season and just get better being 533 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 3: a scout team one defense, yeah it wasn't a surprise, 534 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 3: But it was that he played the way he played 535 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 3: that last game of the season because he finally got 536 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 3: his chance to say, Hey, this is what I want 537 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 3: to leave them, This is a taste I want to 538 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:26,360 Speaker 3: leave him out. 539 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 5: Going to the offseason knowing that I'm ready to play. 540 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 2: I watch everybody else do it. I'm ready to go. 541 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 2: Does it bother you that he don't he read me? 542 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: I don't care about his kiddy throw a football when 543 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: he does that pretty good, So I'm that is a 544 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 1: little weird. 545 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:40,439 Speaker 2: We need him to grow up. 546 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, grow up a little bit, get married, go to 547 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: nice steakhouse and put some ketchup on it. You said 548 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: something earlier, and I want to get your thoughts on 549 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: this because we've had this conversation off there a couple 550 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: of times, and I've never seen you get so heated 551 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: about anything in my wholeuse already know. So you were 552 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 1: talking about punt returns in the super Bowl with the 553 00:22:56,280 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens. Who is going to return punts for this team? 554 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 2: Here? 555 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 3: We need a game change and not even a game chair. 556 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 3: We need a guy that's gonna move the change. Like 557 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 3: one of the things that I was I learned as 558 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,360 Speaker 3: a pump returning. I wasn't a pump returner all my life. 559 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 3: Like I didn't play pump returning. I didn't try to 560 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 3: be a pump returned until I got into college. 561 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 1: Well, you also like a freak, though, bro, and and 562 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: I can't. 563 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 3: Say that I almost athletically gifted because it was nothing 564 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 3: that I couldn't do. 565 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 2: I tell folks to this day. You know, my daughters 566 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 2: called it. They call it. 567 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 3: I forgot what they call it nowadays when you do 568 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 3: a no handcott will and you know, they all in 569 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 3: ballet and they do these things and they're like, daddy, 570 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 3: you can do that. 571 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, I was doing that outside. 572 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 3: I go to the circus every year with my brother 573 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 3: on his birthday and the first thing they say, don't 574 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 3: try this at home, and Santana's on. 575 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 2: The roof trying it. That's why I broke my mom. 576 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 1: Get out of here. 577 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. I tried everything. I was that guy in my head. 578 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 2: It was nothing I could do. 579 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 3: So getting back to the question, as a pump returner, 580 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 3: you need a guy that's gonna give us the first down. 581 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:51,919 Speaker 1: You need to. 582 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 2: Explaining that is at least ten yards. 583 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 3: Our special team coach Mike Westoff used to tell me, 584 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 3: and I could go farst back and in college, don 585 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 3: Solomon just just say I need you. 586 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:04,640 Speaker 2: He was a running back coach. 587 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 5: He taught Clint Porters, Edwin James, all those guys. 588 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,880 Speaker 2: He was. He should be a Hall of Fame high 589 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 2: school football coach. 590 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 3: He taught Troy Davis and Darren Davis at South Ridge 591 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 3: one on national championships and state championships. Don Salom just say, 592 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 3: I need you to get the offense there first, first down, 593 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 3: and what he's to tell me is that I need 594 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 3: you to get ten yards, and if you don't get 595 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 3: ten yards, I need you to make the first man 596 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 3: miss because normally, if you make that first man missed, 597 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 3: everybody else not in line to get you, you're gonna 598 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 3: You're gonna sneaky. 599 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 5: You're gonna sneak out and get about eight to ten yards. 600 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 3: Like I say, if something special has to come out 601 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 3: of what you do, you have to be the elite 602 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 3: of guys back there. 603 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 5: And the guy that fits that mold to us is 604 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:47,199 Speaker 5: Curtis Sammy. 605 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 3: I've been begging and him and I'm taking this from 606 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 3: I'm taking this from Smooth because he was right last 607 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 3: year when I watched Curtis say, I'm like, this guy's 608 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 3: a he can get missing in the phone book. Why 609 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 3: are we not trying him at punt return? Like ca 610 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 3: to this league and say this is what the guy 611 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 3: can do and cannot do. No, just like what was 612 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 3: done to the college but Butch Davis told me, Hey, Ten, 613 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 3: I need to go out there and catch punts. 614 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 2: I said, Noah, coach, I'm straight. 615 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 3: And then the second time he asked me, say Ten, 616 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 3: I needed to go out there and catch punts, he said, 617 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 3: I'm not accident. So that told me a lot, like 618 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 3: the whole team needs you to do what I thought 619 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 3: about while I was back there catching it. 620 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 5: This is a chance for me to do something more. 621 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 5: This is a chance to give me on the field more, 622 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. 623 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 3: So when you have a guy like Curtis Salmon and 624 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 3: I'm not sure if he ever caught him, if you 625 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 3: can catch the caiss, you can catch him. 626 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,880 Speaker 1: Apparently apparently he's only caught nine in his whole career. 627 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 2: We're gonna practice this thing and the off season and 628 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 2: get you ready. 629 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 3: I truly believe that Curtis Samuel is the missing gym 630 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 3: that we have on this team that we're not even 631 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 3: trying to put out there to be the dynamic player 632 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 3: that he can be. 633 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 2: If you're not give him the ball. 634 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 1: I need you to do that. But you've you've played 635 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: with guys who are crazy athletic, they just can't. 636 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 2: It's a different case. Not saying we're going to force 637 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 2: him to do something he can't do. 638 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 3: We gonna seem saying we got to put him back 639 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 3: there enough free season so we could be comfortable with 640 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 3: him doing it now. Also, it was it was moments 641 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 3: when we put two punt returners back there. You put 642 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 3: one back that that can catch it, one that can 643 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 3: run with the boa you can catch it, catch. 644 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 2: It, and we gonna run. We're gonna do something. I'm 645 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,439 Speaker 2: being real though, man like, like what. 646 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 1: You're saying, though, I think that's a really healthy, healthy perspective. Right, 647 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 1: It's like the standard Danny Smith, every special teams coach 648 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: I ever played for him, it was like, we, as 649 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: the part return team, need to get you ten yards. 650 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: That's the goal, right, So it's making good decisions is 651 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: number one. That's the number one thing. And Dax does that. 652 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: We all agree he makes good decisions. It's just can 653 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: you get that ten yards? So of the of the 654 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 1: other guys, you know, Curtis Samuel was the guy that 655 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 1: I think is very popular. Yeah, Kashmir Al, I just 656 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: about to ask you about that, right he did? So, 657 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 1: he didn't really, that's the thing. He didn't return punts 658 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 1: in college. But he's gonna have to do that here. 659 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 3: I want to know this will I will also even 660 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 3: put my man Ag back there. Think he Jesus phenomenal talent. 661 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 2: Man like the dude. 662 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 3: Now you talking about my up of the cability. I 663 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 3: haven't seen nothing that Ag couldn't do. He returned, and 664 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:09,879 Speaker 3: if they gonna be short, I mean, we don't know 665 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 3: this offense and how they're gonna use him. But last 666 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 3: year we were talking about this. I'm like, man, I 667 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 3: would pay Ag back there because if he's gonna be 668 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 3: pissed off about not getting carries, they carried. 669 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: But don't you find that running backs have a hard 670 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: time catching punch running. 671 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,679 Speaker 3: He's an ex Robb Receix quarterback, quarterback punts back if 672 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 3: you could play quarterback, not even being a starter. 673 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 2: He ran three punts for touchdown back. 674 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 5: You can catch the ball, and he showed that he 675 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 5: can do that in college already. 676 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be interesting to get him back there. I 677 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 1: didn't know he caught punchs before. He would be to 678 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: get down so hard, so hard, because he's a big man, 679 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 1: he's fast. Yeah, I didn't know he caught punch because 680 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 1: he usually running back kickoffs. 681 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 2: No, he ran kickoffs back and he ran them for 682 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,120 Speaker 2: touchdown and he ran punchs back. 683 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 4: Don't forgetting games. Will from Philadelphia was in his back Yeah. Uh, 684 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 4: Pollard from the Cowboys with in his backfield, so he 685 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 4: had to find other ways to get the ball while 686 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 4: receiver plunt return kickoff return is how he did. 687 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 1: The other guy that's interesting to bring up is Tinsley, 688 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,160 Speaker 1: the kid from Penn State who's also kind of showing 689 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 1: that polish as a receiver, but maybe he sneaks in 690 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 1: as your. 691 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure it's gonna be a guy too that 692 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 3: we're not even talking about right now that's going to probably, 693 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 3: you know, be in the runnings for that position come 694 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 3: some preseason plump returnament. 695 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 5: It's just something about pump returners. 696 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 2: You have to be special. You have to be special, bro. 697 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: Like. 698 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 5: It's not saying that you have to run back punts. 699 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 3: No, when I say special, you have to be able 700 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 3: to see that ball, Go locate it, go run it down, 701 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 3: go catch it and then get back up, peel and 702 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 3: make something happen. 703 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 4: And James Rash was not the fastest dude, but thres 704 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:39,719 Speaker 4: gonna get your team now. 705 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 2: James Draft was fast. If you go back to James 706 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 2: Dras in the league. But I'm saying he was a 707 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 2: guy on the track. James Draft was pretty fast and 708 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 2: he gonna get up the field. 709 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 3: What I'm trying to the port I'm trying to make 710 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 3: is there's guys that play the position and they're not 711 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 3: the twisted up the speedster, the sixty meter champ, hundred 712 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 3: meters champ, but they know how to be a dynamic 713 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 3: pump returner because one of the things I learned about 714 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 3: the position. And it's crazy because I look at things 715 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:11,479 Speaker 3: like this to this day, like I have them. They 716 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 3: in my wheelhouse. You're coming down out of control. 717 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 2: Being blocked. 718 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 3: I can set you up and make you go somewhere 719 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 3: and you call and you can't stop on the down 720 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 3: like me. Now, that's one of the same things I use, 721 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 3: the same tactics I use as a receiver. Like I 722 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 3: could get the top gear faster than you going backwards. 723 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 3: Now you have to turn your hips and run at 724 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 3: my top. Now I can stop faster than you when 725 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 3: you're just starting to get to your top gear, so 726 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 3: I can play with you because you're in my wheelhouse. 727 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 3: That's the same thing as most dynamic great pump returners. 728 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 3: Do they know that I can set you if I 729 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 3: can put you in the spot, think I'm going somewhere 730 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 3: and then I get a block of the blocker you 731 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 3: or get to shield you. Now I could put one 732 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 3: foot in the ground and get up fiel. 733 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I love that. And I could talk returners 734 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: with you all day. But there's one more question I 735 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: wanted to ask. Are we good at linebacker for the Commanders? 736 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 2: I think so. I think so. 737 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: I just I think so. 738 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 4: Everybody don't got a dab in white. Everybody don't have 739 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 4: certain guys. But I think the linebacker position because of 740 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 4: the receivers. 741 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 2: Receivers, the receivers. 742 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 4: Again the linebackers off the field, and we're bringing in safeties. 743 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 2: Now we're gonna get this hybrid. 744 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 4: So I think the secondary is leaned on more than 745 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 4: the linebackers. Are we not a three four defense? Yeah, 746 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 4: so we're not a defense that's predicated on our linebackers. 747 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 4: We're predicated on our front linebackers. 748 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 5: Is starting to look like fullbacks these days in the league. 749 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very rare. 750 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 3: That line's more second. Like he's talking about safeties and 751 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 3: nickel guys, big safeties. 752 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, that's what you know. We did that like 753 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: breakdown of Cam Curl and one of the things that 754 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 1: stuck out to me is like they are using safeties 755 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:49,719 Speaker 1: forrest Cam as linebackers essentially based on defensive structure. Obviously 756 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: they're not linebackers. But how you would target those runs, 757 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: how you would target those protections, you gotta count from 758 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: that way. 759 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 5: I want to stay championship in high school when and 760 00:30:58,600 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 5: this is crazy, how. 761 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 2: How advanced my coach was. 762 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 3: We had this big linebacker, Bradley Jennings. He went to 763 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 3: Florida State in the forty four. He came out with us. 764 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 5: He got shot leading up to our draft, so he 765 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 5: ended up being drafted. But he was our middle linebacker. 766 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 2: He was a force, but our will and Sam. 767 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 3: We didn't really have a willing Sam. We had two 768 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 3: dynamic d ns, but we didn't have a willing Sam. 769 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 3: You know, when our coach didn't play nickel, we brought 770 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 3: in two corners that lost their position at corner. My 771 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 3: homeboy Bowl came in late, played corner and took somebody position. 772 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 3: He was the starting corner and the other corner could 773 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 3: have easy played on the other side. But Boosey Samuews, 774 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 3: who played at Florida State. Also, he was so dynamic 775 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 3: as a young guy. We left him at one side 776 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 3: and he was like a sophomore. We put in two 777 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 3: corners at Sam and Nickel, and we were so fast 778 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 3: that linebacker. So we had as that one middle guy. 779 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 3: That guy was gonna clog up everything, gonna run you down. 780 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 3: But our guys on the SAM when they was in coverage, 781 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 3: they was corners and they sticking your tight ends, your 782 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 3: you know, your fullbacks, your running bus at the backfield. 783 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 3: And as a young guy back then, I didn't see 784 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 3: what we was doing until now look and see the defenses, 785 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 3: especially our defense. 786 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 2: Were playing those positions, were playing that. 787 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 3: Now we have guys that can run with people, because 788 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 3: I feel like that's where our offense is going. Now. 789 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 4: There's less fieldicality in the run game right now. Well, 790 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 4: they spread you out to pass and they spread you 791 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 4: out to run. 792 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's not even like there's less physicality. I 793 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: think you're just playing odds right, Like, like sixty percent 794 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: of the time teams run through out receiver sets spread 795 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: Last year this team only ran the ball thirty seven 796 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 1: percent of the time. Right Like, defenses are adjusting to that. 797 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: You need to find ways to get better coverage players 798 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: on the field, because as much as you know, having 799 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 1: a two hundred and forty pound middle linebackers the thing 800 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 1: that helps you in the run game, that guy's a 801 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 1: liability in the past game. You need guys that have 802 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: a better feel for space, better feel for zones. The 803 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 1: other thing I want to ask you about is with 804 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 1: that linebacker group, I think one thing that could really 805 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 1: tip the scales is Jami and Davis continuing to develop. 806 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 4: Ye after our I thought he took it. I thought 807 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 4: he really bowled out last year. Maybe I was looking 808 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 4: at the film wrong. I thought he played fast last year. 809 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 4: I thought he showed that he was comfortable, and I 810 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 4: can only expect that he gonna get even better, especially 811 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 4: with Chase Young coming back in and having a D 812 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,239 Speaker 4: line in front of him to keep the blockers off 813 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 4: of him. I think Jamie, I think the best of 814 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 4: Jamie Davis we have yet to see. 815 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean too. I'm really excited. And you know, 816 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: PFF said that he's like one of the breakout players 817 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 1: for this year, and you can see why. He was 818 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: playing better as year went on, really good against the run, 819 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: and you see his athleticism in coverage against receivers. You 820 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 1: see it, it's there. 821 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 2: It's just year. 822 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 1: It's like, can his instincts start matching that? So I 823 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 1: think that group's good. And obviously Cody Barton coming in 824 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: converted safety kind of that tweeter Cleek Hutson again the 825 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 1: guy that kind of is that converted stafty linebacker. So 826 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 1: I do think that they are kind of maybe a 827 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 1: more modern understanding of the NFL in terms of what's 828 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 1: required of the position. I think we're going to be okay. 829 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: So I think that's going to do it for our 830 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: Fourth of July show. 831 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 2: Friend. 832 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 4: Hey, hey, heaping forth with July to everybody out there, 833 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 4: may your beer be cold and maybe barbecue me barbecue 834 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 4: by me? 835 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 1: All right, So thanks, make sure to liken subscribe wherever 836 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 1: you get your podcasts, and check out command Center every 837 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 1: Wednesday on the Commander's YouTube page. You guys are lucky, man. 838 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:21,320 Speaker 1: We got Commander's content every single day. Mondays, we have 839 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 1: one on one interviews this this tub of year. We 840 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: got rookies. We getting to get to know those guys 841 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 1: a little bit better. Right, that's exactly right. Tuesday we 842 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 1: have this podcast which if you're not listening. I know 843 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,319 Speaker 1: what's wrong with you man. It's funny. I learned something 844 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 1: new every time we do this. 845 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 2: A great podcast, great pot we don't want you. 846 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,839 Speaker 1: On Wednesday we got our flagship show, the Command Center. 847 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,919 Speaker 1: Make sure you turn into that. Thursday we got Tanna's takes. Tana, 848 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:40,399 Speaker 1: what you got. 849 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 2: I'm talking some superlative. There we go, Maammy heat louse. 850 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:49,359 Speaker 2: All right. 851 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,959 Speaker 1: Fridays we got Logan lives in the comments. It says Logan, 852 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 1: but it's really Fred and Tana also living in the comments, 853 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 1: answering your questions, So make sure you leave comments on that. 854 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,320 Speaker 1: We love getting those questions. We've got some for you 855 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: each and every day day of the week. 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