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Speaker 1: the show. My name is Matt, my name is Meet.
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Speaker 1: Paul Decans as always, but most importantly, you are you,
Speaker 1: and that makes this stuff they don't want you to know.
Speaker 1: The U. S. Military has cooked up some pretty bizarre
Speaker 1: ideas over the past few decades, and longtime listeners you
Speaker 1: know that, Matt Nolan I have covered some of the
Speaker 1: more nefarious ones in past episodes. Yeah, when you're on
Speaker 1: the edge and you're the leader of all the military technology,
Speaker 1: you really just got to test it all, man. You
Speaker 1: just throwst up at the wall and see if it
Speaker 1: blows it up. Literally, like the jet copter, Yes, the
Speaker 1: jet copter where someone finally came together with their friends
Speaker 1: and said, what if we had a jet that wait
Speaker 1: for it, guys, has three wings. Wait for it, guys,
Speaker 1: and each of those wings has a jet engine, and
Speaker 1: wait for it, and we spin it really really fast
Speaker 1: and make it go somewhere to what end? Is this
Speaker 1: is a vehicle or just an agent of chaos? It's
Speaker 1: both meant to be a vehicle didn't work out though.
Speaker 1: There's also the idea of a blinding phaser. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: went Star Trek with that one. It looks really cool. Actually,
Speaker 1: it looks like one of those heavy duty Star Trek
Speaker 1: phasers that they only use when they're facing a serious
Speaker 1: threat like the Borg. Yeah, set your phasers to blind
Speaker 1: cass you, bog. I wonder how that would affect, you know,
Speaker 1: because they've got the one human eye usually and then
Speaker 1: the other eye. Well, they adapt the hive mind on
Speaker 1: the land of the Borg. The one eyed man is
Speaker 1: a Borg assimilated, right. They're also they also tried, of course,
Speaker 1: the one of the more infamous ones was they worked
Speaker 1: on a plan for a bomb that would turn people
Speaker 1: into homosexuals. Is that the one that Alex Jones is
Speaker 1: always talking about turns to all the frogs gay as
Speaker 1: He's also he's thinking about environmental contaminant too, I think right. Uh,
Speaker 1: hands down my favorite one was a pigeon guided missile.
Speaker 1: This one just really quick to get into it. I
Speaker 1: don't think we've ever talked about it before in the show. Maybe, Okay, No,
Speaker 1: So this guy b F. Skinner during around the World
Speaker 1: War two times, I was trying to figure out a
Speaker 1: way to basically have a missile hone in on somebody,
Speaker 1: and he thought, oh, you know what I've got honing
Speaker 1: pigeons honing missile. Let's put these two together. And he
Speaker 1: literally made a warhead that was three pigeons sitting inside
Speaker 1: of warhead, live pigeons that had these rudimentary screens of
Speaker 1: and it would show what the ground looked like as
Speaker 1: this missile is flying through the air, and the pigeons,
Speaker 1: if they see the target that they've been trained to attack,
Speaker 1: they would all, in theory, pick at the screen, and
Speaker 1: if all three packed at the screen, then detonation would occur.
Speaker 1: Of course, this makes quite a few assumptions. The idea
Speaker 1: that the pigeons would behave normally when they're strapped into
Speaker 1: this contraction, right, uh, the idea that that redundancy would work.
Speaker 1: Members of the National Research Defense Committee did give him
Speaker 1: twenty five grand to do this again. Throw it at
Speaker 1: the wall, see if it blows up. There were also
Speaker 1: bat bombs, seeking to utilize the echolocative abilities of bats.
Speaker 1: There's actually a really great episode of the lovely podcast
Speaker 1: of the Memory Palace called Itty Bitty Bombs that talks
Speaker 1: about that very thing, and check it out if you
Speaker 1: get a chance, of course, this isn't gonna be an
Speaker 1: episode where we just heap ridicule on Uncle Sam, because
Speaker 1: Uncle Sam is not the only government thinking outside of
Speaker 1: the box when it comes to military hardware and techniques.
Speaker 1: In the cryptocurrency series that we earlier recorded, we spoke
Speaker 1: with our old friend Jonathan Strickland about a larger trend
Speaker 1: toward what's called asymmetrical warfare. And that's the idea that
Speaker 1: if you and like, if the three of us are
Speaker 1: the top military minds of China or Russia or something,
Speaker 1: we know that we cannot compete one on one in
Speaker 1: a conventional battle with the United States. But maybe it
Speaker 1: turns out that Noel has a great lead on information warfare.
Speaker 1: Maybe it turns out that Matt is super good at
Speaker 1: delivering poison and unexpected ways. It's all about innovation, and
Speaker 1: you're right, unexpectedness, right, the element of surprise, And this
Speaker 1: is where we see things like Soviet attack dolphins, or
Speaker 1: like the United Kingdom's ill fated attempt to build an
Speaker 1: aircraft carrier that was also an iceberg because no one
Speaker 1: would ever see it coming because it moves so slowly
Speaker 1: it's almost imperceptible that it's coming at you. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: sure it's that I could be doing much damage around
Speaker 1: the equator, but man, but they wanted to try it.
Speaker 1: And there are there numerous other silly examples. We've looked
Speaker 1: at the assassination attempts for Fidel Castro in a different show,
Speaker 1: Noel and I looked at uh an attempt to kill
Speaker 1: Winston Churchill via an evil chocolate bars bloating chocolate where
Speaker 1: and when you broke that delightful little line of demarcation
Speaker 1: to get that perfect chocolate square, it would blow your
Speaker 1: fingers and face off. Jeez. And there was also a
Speaker 1: halitosis bomb, which is super interesting because halitosis was primarily
Speaker 1: condition made up by advertisers. So it's a bad breath bomb, right,
Speaker 1: and halitosis as a condition is not real. That sounds
Speaker 1: like more of a prank. Yeah, I think you just
Speaker 1: get that by eating regular cho clip and then not
Speaker 1: brushing your teeth because you Americans full ruining. How a
Speaker 1: great evil limbio without terrible breath so minty freshness aside,
Speaker 1: a lot of these techniques and these weapons and this
Speaker 1: hardware the various governments dream up never make it past
Speaker 1: the brainstorming. Wouldn't it be cool if phase or the
Speaker 1: research and development phase. Somebody somewhere along the line thankfully says, guys,
Speaker 1: I think jet copter is kind of a dumb idea,
Speaker 1: or someone says, would ever say that it sounds amazing,
Speaker 1: sounds of aazing I guess depends on what you wanted
Speaker 1: for as an agent of chaos, it would be one
Speaker 1: of the coolest fireworks ever. That's true. But the problem
Speaker 1: is this, it can be very difficult for us, the
Speaker 1: general public, even members of other militaries, even in the
Speaker 1: top levels of intelligence, it can be very difficult to
Speaker 1: tell what has actually been deployed, what was kicked around
Speaker 1: and then scrapped, what's active working is under wraps, or
Speaker 1: as we saw offt in the Cold War, what's been
Speaker 1: just sort of marketed as something to be scared of,
Speaker 1: as an attempt to drain the other side's resources. Right,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of propaganda around, you know, a lot
Speaker 1: of these things do come into the public eye, but
Speaker 1: only after something goes really, really wrong, as we saw
Speaker 1: in the case with that stealth helicopter. Yeah, in the
Speaker 1: US raid on the bin laden compound in Islamabad, most
Speaker 1: of the taxpayer public learned that stealth helicopters were a
Speaker 1: thing when one of them crashed, and you guys remember that, right, Well,
Speaker 1: you would hope that you wouldn't know about a stealth
Speaker 1: helicopter unless it's stealth abilities failed drastically, yeah, or or
Speaker 1: you wouldn't know about it until you heard the sound
Speaker 1: of whatever you know, weaponry it's got on it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So this is interesting because ethically, there's a little bit
Speaker 1: of a pickle. You know, most people pay taxes on
Speaker 1: some level, right, whether it's sales or property or income
Speaker 1: or just something. Most people pay taxes and often don't
Speaker 1: know where that money is going. So these weapons, this
Speaker 1: suppressed technology, of this classified technology definitely does exist. It's
Speaker 1: not a conspiracy theory to say that, it's conspiracy realism.
Speaker 1: And there are a number of compelling arguments for why
Speaker 1: that should be kept secret, why we should be paying
Speaker 1: for things that we don't know about, and even when
Speaker 1: they might adversely affect US national security. And let's move
Speaker 1: on the Great Boogeyman, right, And now we're at a
Speaker 1: point where it turns out that just last year we
Speaker 1: may have learned of another type of weapons something we
Speaker 1: knew could exist in theory, but hadn't seen an action
Speaker 1: this way. Here's where it gets crazy already already. Yeah, So,
Speaker 1: over the course of two years, two thousands sixteen and
Speaker 1: two thousands seventeen, there were some weird stuff going on
Speaker 1: in Cuba. Specifically, there were U. S. Citizens who were
Speaker 1: serving at the embassy there. They were complaining of these
Speaker 1: various strange ailments. A lot of it had to do
Speaker 1: with things affecting their ears and their ability to hear,
Speaker 1: like they were they were experiencing hearing loss, they were
Speaker 1: experiencing vertigo, feeling like they were going to fall or
Speaker 1: were falling, they were having headaches. They were even complaining
Speaker 1: about cognitive cognitive deficiencies like having problems remembering something. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, more than just when you walk through a
Speaker 1: door and you forget something, which is something we all experienced.
Speaker 1: They were talking about much more severe versions of this
Speaker 1: um and just just so everybody knows, severe hearing loss
Speaker 1: was the most common complaint, like I cannot hear right
Speaker 1: now and I've never had a problem with this before
Speaker 1: in my life. And the injuries were thankfully not found
Speaker 1: to be life threatening, but all of the victims had
Speaker 1: a primary complaint that preceded their experience of this vertigo,
Speaker 1: this hearing loss, this difficulty with recollection, and it's this
Speaker 1: They heard a distinct, loud, pitched, incredibly annoying and painful
Speaker 1: sound and unusual places, including their homes. Shall we punish
Speaker 1: our listeners with the clip, yes, and ourselves. So the
Speaker 1: caveat that there are a few limiting factors here. Um,
Speaker 1: this is multiple frequencies stacked together, but they're not just
Speaker 1: the ones that the human ear can perceive or that
Speaker 1: can be recreated with phones or speakers or any other
Speaker 1: method of reproducing sound. That's a really good point exactly
Speaker 1: that that sound comes from the Associated Press. They actually
Speaker 1: went in they got this sound while they were in Cuba,
Speaker 1: and they were just mentioning that there's a lot of
Speaker 1: lower much lower frequency and much higher frequency stuff going on. Sure. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And eventually the State Department did go public with this.
Speaker 1: Keep in mind first reports or from sien soeen. The
Speaker 1: State Department goes public, they pull all the non essential
Speaker 1: staff from the embassy there in Havana and the capital
Speaker 1: of Cuba, and they allow others to return to the
Speaker 1: US for treatment. On May twenty three, the State Department
Speaker 1: also began expelling Cuban diplomats. They started with two. Eventually
Speaker 1: they would expel fifteen in total from the United States.
Speaker 1: And it should be noted here that the Cuban the
Speaker 1: Cuban government vehemently denies than anything is going on here
Speaker 1: like there they had any involvement in these health incidents.
Speaker 1: H And there's a quote right here. Cuba has never
Speaker 1: nor would it ever allow that the Cuban territory be
Speaker 1: used for any action against accredited diplomatic agents or their
Speaker 1: families without exception, full stop, pretty categorical there, you know.
Speaker 1: And although the US officially states they're still investigating the
Speaker 1: cause of these conditions, government officials from the U S side,
Speaker 1: from Uncle Sam, speaking on the condition of anonymity, have
Speaker 1: said that they believe someone in Cuba was operating a
Speaker 1: quote sonic weapon. So what could the sonic weapon be,
Speaker 1: We'll tell you after a word from our sponsors. So
Speaker 1: sonic weapons. You might also hear these called ultrasonic weapons
Speaker 1: or us WUS do what it says on the tin,
Speaker 1: they use sound to incapacitate, injure or potentially in theory
Speaker 1: kill they're victims, believe it or not, through the use
Speaker 1: of sound alone and perhaps you've heard of these web
Speaker 1: and being deployed by police and for the purposes of
Speaker 1: crowd disposal or crawlling. One of the most well known
Speaker 1: examples of this, at least in the world of policing,
Speaker 1: is something called the long range Acoustic device or l RAD. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this thing produces noises fifty times above the human threshold
Speaker 1: for pain, So that moment when you're listening to music
Speaker 1: at a concert and you start to go, oh wait,
Speaker 1: this actually hurts a little bit. It's it's fifty times
Speaker 1: above that. It's about around one and twenty to one
Speaker 1: and forty decibels at high power. This sort of stuff
Speaker 1: can cause nausea, vomiting, and so on. However, it is
Speaker 1: considered a non lethal weapon. It's literally just so loud
Speaker 1: that it hurts to be there. So crowds that, you know,
Speaker 1: Occupy Wall Street or um the ferguson Um protests, sure, yeah,
Speaker 1: for any protests or something. The idea is that they go, ah,
Speaker 1: my ears, I'm leaving. I'm more of a fan of
Speaker 1: non lethal weapon two, which one is that the one
Speaker 1: with jo I wonder why they never did a non
Speaker 1: lethal weapon. That's actually a good idea, And I think
Speaker 1: I think it'd be kind of dull, right, nothing would happen.
Speaker 1: What was the what was the parody of the lethal
Speaker 1: weapon series was naked gun, Naked Gun, Well Weapon, police
Speaker 1: squad Leslie Nielsen. Wasn't there one called legal weapon or
Speaker 1: something like that. It doesn't matter. It doesn't think one
Speaker 1: of those Hollywood knockoffs. So we'll get back to that.
Speaker 1: We've got top men on the research here. In the meantime,
Speaker 1: you'll hear a lot of variations on this basic idea
Speaker 1: of sound as a weapon, loaded weapon, loaded weapon there,
Speaker 1: and it was called loaded weapon one, and there wasn't
Speaker 1: a sequel that. It's important that we have that solved.
Speaker 1: So the variations you'll hear, much like the variations of
Speaker 1: lethal versus loaded weapon, we're all gonna be new takes
Speaker 1: on the same concept. You'll hear about grenade, something you
Speaker 1: could throw that emits a powerful, dangerous sound, sonic cannons,
Speaker 1: sonic guns, and so on, and this hardware can produce
Speaker 1: different effects. The majority that we know about right now
Speaker 1: are designed to be non lethal, painful, slap on the wrist,
Speaker 1: don't do it. We're not minimizing the effects of these
Speaker 1: because non lethal weapons that terms sometimes gets a better
Speaker 1: rep than it deserves. Technically, people who shoot rock salt
Speaker 1: at you out of a shotgun are exercising a non
Speaker 1: lethal weapon. But I can tell you that is a
Speaker 1: very painful experience. And I mean it could you know,
Speaker 1: injure you such that you could die from your wound
Speaker 1: if there'sn't get an infection or something like that. Totally
Speaker 1: you would bleed from getting shot with rock salid I
Speaker 1: think right, yes, depend on distance, yeah, well, and things
Speaker 1: like tasers too that are considered less than lethal do
Speaker 1: have You can be killed by that because you're dealing
Speaker 1: with your heart, and everybody has a different leaf functioning
Speaker 1: heart and circulatory system and everything, so much in the
Speaker 1: same way you can imagine, there are there are dangers, yeah,
Speaker 1: especially you might have a pre existing heart condition or something,
Speaker 1: and then it's boom, game over. So some are designed.
Speaker 1: Some of these weapons are designed to shoot what's called
Speaker 1: a focus point or focused area of sound, like a
Speaker 1: bullet from a gun or maybe a laser is a
Speaker 1: better a better description, while others create a sustained field
Speaker 1: of effect. Despite their names, not all these weapons are gigantic,
Speaker 1: big booming, oversized nighties, golden era of hip hop boom boxes.
Speaker 1: They're operating, some of them are operating outside of the
Speaker 1: range of human hearing, like Nolan, Matt we're talking about
Speaker 1: with the clip that they played and what what's happening there.
Speaker 1: It's similar to that so called brown note. Do you
Speaker 1: guys remember the story of the brown note? I think
Speaker 1: South part made it famous. Yeah, yeah, it's the one
Speaker 1: you can't hear but makes you poop, which we we've
Speaker 1: examined in the past. At this point, there is no
Speaker 1: universally accepted proof of the brown note, And who knows.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's because it's not real. Maybe it's because everybody
Speaker 1: who proved it was too embarrassed, you know, nobody wanted
Speaker 1: to soil themselves for the sake of scientific research. But
Speaker 1: we're pretty sure it's at this point, Yeah, there's no
Speaker 1: there's no real solid proof. So what this means if
Speaker 1: something is outside the range of conscious human hearing, is
Speaker 1: that victims can feel the effects of one of these
Speaker 1: pieces of technology without necessarily associating those effects with an
Speaker 1: actual sound. And through part of this, I have to
Speaker 1: defer to my colleagues Matt and Null here because you
Speaker 1: all are audio experts and you have. I think you
Speaker 1: can give a good explanation at times with what sound is,
Speaker 1: how it works, how the perception of sound works, what
Speaker 1: we mean when we say a frequency, and all that.
Speaker 1: So I just want to set that up that I
Speaker 1: may ask some questions that relatively elementary to you. All, Okay,
Speaker 1: no problem, and I will probably defer to Noel. So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna set him up with a question right now,
Speaker 1: and I will defer and turn back to Matt, and
Speaker 1: then I will then defer to Paul, and and then
Speaker 1: he will defer to you, ben Um, and then we'll
Speaker 1: defer to you specifically, you listener. So here we go.
Speaker 1: Here's the round robin. So when you're dealing with sounds,
Speaker 1: you're talking about waves. You're talking about energy being moved
Speaker 1: through the air with these waves, So you've got amplitudes,
Speaker 1: you've got frequencies, so like how close together, uh, the
Speaker 1: sound wave is happening, how large that wave actually is,
Speaker 1: which translates to volume. So there are all kinds of
Speaker 1: things that we're gonna be discussing as we get into this,
Speaker 1: and we're talking about hurts, killer hurts and mega hurts.
Speaker 1: Do you want to walk us through any of that?
Speaker 1: I mean only that it's a spectrum in the same
Speaker 1: way that color is a spectrum. And you know, sound
Speaker 1: is measured from the lowest uh to the highest in
Speaker 1: terms of and then you know as something goes from
Speaker 1: low frequency to high frequency, they get closer together, so
Speaker 1: you can see it like on a wave form, a
Speaker 1: lower sound is going to be is going to have
Speaker 1: more space in between them than the higher sound is
Speaker 1: going to have less space in between. And just to
Speaker 1: jump in, when I say low, I mean low and
Speaker 1: pitch and high end pitch when I'm talking about volumes.
Speaker 1: So a lower sound could have a wavelength up to
Speaker 1: seventeen meters, which would be twenty hurts, and then a
Speaker 1: high frequency could have something that you would measure in centimeters,
Speaker 1: which would be twenty thousand hurts. Wow. And it's also
Speaker 1: important to remember that when you're hearing sounds, it's not
Speaker 1: just your ears. Your entire body is being embarded by
Speaker 1: these waves that are coming from a source. So you know,
Speaker 1: when you imagine as a weapon, it's it's not like
Speaker 1: they're attacking your ears, They're attacking your entire corporeal form.
Speaker 1: And in the case of the brown note, your bowels.
Speaker 1: That would be a very low sound that would move
Speaker 1: you and your bowels and make you And that's that's
Speaker 1: an incredibly important point. You know, the brown note may
Speaker 1: sound humorous, but Matt, you're absolutely correct in that this does.
Speaker 1: It's a body wide affect. Your drums and the auditory
Speaker 1: system are going to be the most sensitive and the
Speaker 1: thing we notice the most, but that doesn't mean the
Speaker 1: rest of the body is immune to it. And if
Speaker 1: you hear a low sound, like a real bassi sound
Speaker 1: at a concert, you can feel it in your guts
Speaker 1: and your sternum and stuff, you know, And that's what
Speaker 1: sound is, right, vibration. So this idea of taking taking
Speaker 1: a phenomenon is responsible for some of the most beautiful
Speaker 1: moments of human existence. Listening to music, communicating, saying I
Speaker 1: love you to a relative or you know, someone you're
Speaker 1: hitting on a romantic partner, hearing your son's voice for
Speaker 1: the first time. There we go, There we go. The
Speaker 1: idea of turning that into a weapon sounds like some
Speaker 1: old school sci fi comic book stuff from the Golden
Speaker 1: age of comics, But the truth is this technology is
Speaker 1: not theoretical. It's already being deployed in the field on
Speaker 1: an experimental marginal basis, and research on it continues. And
Speaker 1: this is not just a thing that is the domain
Speaker 1: of DARPA. Multiple government agencies across the world have conducted
Speaker 1: research with this, along with quite a few private entities.
Speaker 1: And they're doing that because science backs up the claim
Speaker 1: that sound can be used as a weapon. Earlier, we
Speaker 1: had explored the use of sound as a psychological or
Speaker 1: even a supernatural weapon shout out to us, See you
Speaker 1: next time, But the weapons were exploring now are meant
Speaker 1: to physically injure people. We know that high powered sound
Speaker 1: way waves can easily disrupt or even destroy ear drums,
Speaker 1: and this creates intense disorientation because our inner ear is
Speaker 1: a primary method of determining balance for an individual body.
Speaker 1: It's making me think back to those side effects he
Speaker 1: talked about at the top of the show, that it
Speaker 1: could cause you to get a little caddy wamp us
Speaker 1: and start to kind of get that vertigo makes me
Speaker 1: think of the character on Arrested Development played by Liza Manelli,
Speaker 1: who's always got that she's got a case of the disease,
Speaker 1: and she'll be walking around normal and then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden kind of like well, stubble and then kind
Speaker 1: of have to pick herself back up. You know, it's
Speaker 1: a it's a legitimate thing that people suffer from, just
Speaker 1: you know, without being afflicted by weird secret government sound cannons. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: and high intensity ultrasound of frequencies from seven kill it
Speaker 1: hurts to three point six mega hurts can cause lung
Speaker 1: and intestinal damage in mice. So it's beyond the year.
Speaker 1: We luckily don't have hard data about that in the
Speaker 1: realm of human experimentation, at least not that is publicly available. Right,
Speaker 1: heart rate patterns following vibroacoustic simulation can create serious negative consequences, uh,
Speaker 1: such as Brady cardia atrial flutter. Sonic weapons are used
Speaker 1: in non military applications too. Yes, there is a ship
Speaker 1: called the s Born Spirit that at one point used
Speaker 1: a long range acoustic device and l RAD to deter
Speaker 1: some pirates that were attempting to board the ship and
Speaker 1: and take things from it and perhaps even take the ship.
Speaker 1: And they successfully used it, Yeah, they did. There's there's
Speaker 1: another example that I find pretty funny, and I hope
Speaker 1: that no one was seriously injured with this. But in
Speaker 1: the United Kingdom, some stores began using sonic devices to
Speaker 1: prevent teenagers from loitering. Because as as you age, as
Speaker 1: the human body ages, you're hearing aggains to decay, and
Speaker 1: there are certain sounds that you will not be able
Speaker 1: to hear later in life. It's generally the higher frequencies
Speaker 1: right right spot on. And so these store owners were
Speaker 1: taking mobile devices and setting them up to admit a
Speaker 1: sound at a pitch only younger ears were capable of hearing.
Speaker 1: It's like only teenagers could hear this kind of thing.
Speaker 1: It's like the millennial yelp, yeah, I think so in
Speaker 1: every song and every song it's that like I think
Speaker 1: it's well, yeah, only millennials can hear that. Oh man,
Speaker 1: it does remind me of the sonic anti pest devices
Speaker 1: that exists. You can find them in any hardware store
Speaker 1: for you know, rodents and insects that admit a high
Speaker 1: pitch sound. But if you turn those things on, I
Speaker 1: swear to you you can. You can. You can hear it,
Speaker 1: there's air moving and you can tell. Do you think
Speaker 1: those actually work? Have you seen evidence that they that
Speaker 1: they work? I've not. I've never wanted to have one
Speaker 1: in my home. Wait, but you can actually real clean home. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you can actually hear them, you said, so maybe
Speaker 1: they work on you. Not, it's not so much hearing
Speaker 1: as sensing there's a disturbance. Does that compute at all? Yeah, totally,
Speaker 1: and there's probably an obvious one. But like things like sonar,
Speaker 1: where you know, you use sonic waves to detect objects
Speaker 1: and map distances underwater, but it can really mess with
Speaker 1: underwater creatures who encounter it. It can jack with their equilibrium,
Speaker 1: like things we're talking about whales exactly. Yeah, whales will
Speaker 1: have migration roots disrupted, and there's a dearth of very
Speaker 1: significant or substantial research on that because I'm gonna argue,
Speaker 1: maybe this is this a topic for a different show,
Speaker 1: but because various governments operating submarines don't want to admit
Speaker 1: that they're destroying this wildlife. And of course I'm sure
Speaker 1: there are a lot of people who say, oh, you're
Speaker 1: gonna put the price of wales life over national security.
Speaker 1: Yeah you're jerk, to which I say, oh, national security.
Speaker 1: But overall, this is fascinating but pretty spooky stuff, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: actual humans being affected somehow by some sound. So what
Speaker 1: happened next? Well, we'll tell you after a quick word
Speaker 1: from our sponsor. As the US Cuba joint investigation into
Speaker 1: this incident continued, with the U S staff leaving or
Speaker 1: leaving specifically for treatment, and Cuban staff being expelled from
Speaker 1: the US and so on, more theories cropped up. For example,
Speaker 1: what if this was a weapon operating in the infrasound ranges.
Speaker 1: Anyone who's stuck with us for a while will pyric
Speaker 1: their ears when they hear infrasound. It's because we've covered
Speaker 1: this before. We we talked about it. With regards to
Speaker 1: Vic Tandy. It's the man that thought he'd encountered some
Speaker 1: kind of actual ghost, like for real, before discovering that
Speaker 1: there was a fan, literally a fan, an oscillating fan
Speaker 1: nearby that was emitting a sound below the range that
Speaker 1: he could hear, and it was triggering all kinds of
Speaker 1: things in his body, hallucinations, headaches, just weird feelings. And
Speaker 1: eventually what Vic Tandy learned was that there actually was
Speaker 1: something like a ghost. It was this frequency. So the
Speaker 1: effects he was encountering were not just his mind playing
Speaker 1: tricks on him. They where his body responding to an
Speaker 1: external stimulus. And what's fascinating about this, at least to
Speaker 1: me is that if it's true, if somebody weaponized this
Speaker 1: infrasound idea, then and if it works the way that
Speaker 1: this worked in vict Handy's experience, then someone literally invented
Speaker 1: a ghost gun. Yeah. And can you imagine if you
Speaker 1: had a large enough whatever you would need set of speakers.
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly how large you would have to
Speaker 1: be to omit that kind of low frequency sound that
Speaker 1: far or that loud, but what you could do to
Speaker 1: a population in a building or in maybe an entire city.
Speaker 1: I'm just picturing like a giant, massive subwaffer, just a
Speaker 1: single one. You carry it around like on a ham truck. No, no,
Speaker 1: you'd you would put it on a jet copter. You
Speaker 1: just go around the city. So you're always thinking one
Speaker 1: step ahead. However, there are some issues with the idea
Speaker 1: of infrasound. If infrasound is the culprit here or the
Speaker 1: means of transmission, then why did Handy not experienced severe
Speaker 1: hearing loss? Is that is that you know two mats
Speaker 1: point is that because the source of Tandy's experience was
Speaker 1: just not as large or perhaps not as optimized for damage,
Speaker 1: and maybe the frequencies were a little different, or maybe
Speaker 1: we're what we're dealing with in the in the Cuban
Speaker 1: embassy case, Is this in infrasound mixed with the high
Speaker 1: pitched shone we heard? Oh yeah, that's right. Because multiple frequencies,
Speaker 1: we have an audio potpourri. That's a very important point. Additionally,
Speaker 1: according to New York Times, are reported by the National
Speaker 1: Institute of Environmental Health Sciences that came out in two
Speaker 1: thousand two noted that the U. S Military tried to
Speaker 1: weaponize in for sound, but had not succeeded because it
Speaker 1: was so hard to focus the wavelengths. The primary effective
Speaker 1: infrasound they found appears to be annoyance. That's a quote
Speaker 1: that just it's just like silly. It goes through what
Speaker 1: Noel was saying about pranks. You know, is this just
Speaker 1: a is is this just equivalent of incessantly Facebook poking people?
Speaker 1: You know, you use it on the enemy and it
Speaker 1: keeps them from getting any work done. See. I but
Speaker 1: I gotta say, I don't know if I really believe this.
Speaker 1: I mean, I hate to say I don't believe a
Speaker 1: report by the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences, but
Speaker 1: I think it's fine. Well, you it feels like you
Speaker 1: could definitely weaponize this thing. I can understand the biggest
Speaker 1: problem being not being able to focus the wavelengths because
Speaker 1: maybe you're affecting the people who are also supposed to
Speaker 1: be operating whatever you're deploying, something like like those giant
Speaker 1: guns like the Babylon gun and rockets where they had
Speaker 1: to the where the gun was so large that the
Speaker 1: operators had to go three hundred yards away, cover their eyes, nose, ears,
Speaker 1: and I think basically all their other orifices with cotton,
Speaker 1: and then would still be bleeding when they launched it.
Speaker 1: She So maybe it's maybe it's a situation where they
Speaker 1: said they couldn't effectively weaponize it because they couldn't weaponize
Speaker 1: it in a way they conformed to the operational constraints
Speaker 1: like if it needs to affect somebody with an x
Speaker 1: amount of yards and making everyone's anus bleed without making
Speaker 1: everyone's anus bleed, and and if you know, like those
Speaker 1: are considerations, and right now we don't know what those
Speaker 1: exact constraints would be. But this leads us to another
Speaker 1: possible culprit. So if infrasound, if we are taking the
Speaker 1: word of the National Institute of environmental health sciences and
Speaker 1: their second hand report when it is second hands that
Speaker 1: primary source. If we're taking their word for an infrasound
Speaker 1: for some reason doesn't work out, then what about ultrasound? Okay,
Speaker 1: So with infrasound, we're talking about the lowest end of
Speaker 1: the spectrum as far as wavelengths go. What about that
Speaker 1: high end stuff? So at those really high frequencies they
Speaker 1: were talking about, with the really small wavelengths that are
Speaker 1: measured in centimeters rather than meters um higher than twenty
Speaker 1: thou hurts, which is beyond the range of human hearing,
Speaker 1: ultrasound can totally do serious tissue damage if produced with
Speaker 1: enough juice. That's key, right, that's why. Okay, So for
Speaker 1: anybody in the audience who had kidney stones or knows
Speaker 1: somebody in your family who had kidney stones, that's why
Speaker 1: one of the treatments that doctors use for kidney stones
Speaker 1: is ultrasound. They'll use focus blast of this very high
Speaker 1: frequency sound to break kidney stones apart and do small
Speaker 1: enough pieces that they can pass through your body. But
Speaker 1: luckily it does not affect your boys. You're right, yeah, luckily, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're sure about that, because I still haven't had one. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know, that's my question. I mean it. I
Speaker 1: guess it's the focused nature of it. Like if they
Speaker 1: shot you directly in the testes with that, maybe it
Speaker 1: could have impact. I imagine, Well, yeah, that's that's good.
Speaker 1: It just turns it from kidney stones into kidney shards.
Speaker 1: Balls aren't built for ultrasound. But yeah, without without being
Speaker 1: frightening about it or alarmist, it is, it is absolutely
Speaker 1: true that this stuff can do physical damage in this
Speaker 1: focus form of damaging kidney stones is only one application.
Speaker 1: You know, you also hear about lower versions of this
Speaker 1: when someone has an ultrasound during your pregnancy. Right, So,
Speaker 1: why again can't they focus it more and and and
Speaker 1: raise the power If we're talking about doing you know,
Speaker 1: tissue damage, if it's produced with enough energy, why can't
Speaker 1: they just use a really really by day, I mean,
Speaker 1: the the ultimate evil that's out to destroy us all,
Speaker 1: whoever that may be. Why can't they just use a
Speaker 1: giant power source and do the same technology and have
Speaker 1: it be focused enough to shoot over long distances and
Speaker 1: you know, use it to like assassinate somebody for example,
Speaker 1: and it would be undetectable, like like like aut invisible bullet.
Speaker 1: This you know, this reminds me of Illumination Global Unlimited
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Speaker 1: the Shadowy Cabal NOL just mentioned it is. It is
Speaker 1: a question though, it's a great question. Why can't we
Speaker 1: Why can't they use it as a bullet and their
Speaker 1: advantages to this invisible bullet. First off, there wouldn't be
Speaker 1: a physical artifact in the dead body of the victim, right,
Speaker 1: it would look as though their body were shattered. But
Speaker 1: the issue is even though they found researchers found that
Speaker 1: they could create beams that were powerful enough in a
Speaker 1: laboratory so maybe not mobile to kill a mouse at
Speaker 1: close range a fatal sonic weapon. But despite the fact
Speaker 1: that you could take the same technology that's used in
Speaker 1: medical scans and so on and up up its power
Speaker 1: level to the point of causing death, the problem is
Speaker 1: that it's almost like DC power. So direct current power
Speaker 1: had one primary one big disadvantage was that it dissipated
Speaker 1: quickly over distances. So in Edison's original plan for an
Speaker 1: energy infrastructure, there would have to be these stations and
Speaker 1: a relatively small distance apart from one another repeater pretty much. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: And what's happening with this idea with ultrasound is that
Speaker 1: it's also losing power pretty quickly over long distances. And
Speaker 1: you know, the reality is that if you have a
Speaker 1: gun that you could go and you know, point at someone,
Speaker 1: say Paul finally gets tired of us and decides to
Speaker 1: kill us with a sonic weapon, because it's like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, you got time on your hands or something,
Speaker 1: and window right, then, how close do you have to be?
Speaker 1: The other problem with it, specifically in the case of
Speaker 1: Havana is that humidity really really messes with the effect.
Speaker 1: Well that's a dampener no pun intended, but I mean
Speaker 1: it is. It's like another material that it has to
Speaker 1: pass through that dissipates the sound in the same way
Speaker 1: we have crap up on the walls here in this
Speaker 1: here room that soaks up sound waves and and keeps
Speaker 1: the room from sounding echo e. That's because it's dissipating
Speaker 1: those sound waves in a way. And you could use
Speaker 1: the same stuff to break up a sound wave or
Speaker 1: damping it like and keep it from transmitting from one
Speaker 1: room to another, because it's literally stopping it, or at
Speaker 1: least slowing it down or breaking it up to the
Speaker 1: point where it's not going to be as powerful. So
Speaker 1: for a second, let's imagine that something like this weapon
Speaker 1: exists out there and it's in the hands of somebody
Speaker 1: in Cuba and it was being deployed in Who would
Speaker 1: be doing it the Cuban government. That's a really interesting
Speaker 1: question because naturally the Cuban government is going to deny
Speaker 1: this stuff, but some people from the U. S side
Speaker 1: would be tempted to agree with them. Former officials from
Speaker 1: the Obama administration believe that if there were a weapon
Speaker 1: in play, Cuba would definitely not be the person or
Speaker 1: the organization pulling the trigger. Really, yeah, you're setting me up,
Speaker 1: and I appreciate it. Well, well, no, I'm I'm. I
Speaker 1: think it's just because it's the US embassy inside Cuba.
Speaker 1: There have been tensions there for a long time between
Speaker 1: the United States and Cuba, and it seems like if
Speaker 1: you're attacking them, as if that's your target, then it
Speaker 1: would be motivated for some reason because of those tensions.
Speaker 1: At least that's me coming from a complete Novice of
Speaker 1: International Affairs side. You know, I think that's completely reasonable too.
Speaker 1: That doesn't seem a far leap to make. According to
Speaker 1: a foreign policy advisor for the Obama administration, a guy
Speaker 1: named Ben Rhodes, go Ben's this is it's sort of
Speaker 1: counterintuitive to blame Cuba for this. Rhodes says, I don't
Speaker 1: think the Cuban government is behind it. He was also
Speaker 1: involved in negotiating the opening or the approachment between Havana
Speaker 1: and d C. Well, that is true. In around this time,
Speaker 1: we're like human the United States are going through kind
Speaker 1: of a reconnecting, right, Yeah, huh first, says Rhodes. These
Speaker 1: things apparently started in December. At the same time attacks
Speaker 1: were starting, the Cuban government was frantically concluding agreements with US,
Speaker 1: US being the Obama administration signing business deals, in other words,
Speaker 1: trying to preserve the relationships. So the notion that at
Speaker 1: the same time as doing that, they would initiate something
Speaker 1: that's so obviously designed to blow up the relationship doesn't
Speaker 1: make sense. But you know it does make sense. What's
Speaker 1: that a splinter group within the government or within the
Speaker 1: some intelligence agency that's functioning in the Cuban government or
Speaker 1: the United States government or yeah, an agent of chaos
Speaker 1: who doesn't want the relationship to go a jet copter
Speaker 1: of sorts. I could totally see that happening somebody, even
Speaker 1: from the U S side. This is complete speculation. UM,
Speaker 1: someone from the U S side that didn't want the relationship,
Speaker 1: relationship to be rekindled, and so they do an attack
Speaker 1: on the U. S. Embassy to make it look as
Speaker 1: though relations are souring. So this takes us to another
Speaker 1: question then, which would be um, Who then would be
Speaker 1: the hand that moves the sonic weapon. It could be,
Speaker 1: as you've proposed, Matt, a splinter group on the U
Speaker 1: S side or on the Cuban side who doesn't want
Speaker 1: to see the relationship open or wants to at least
Speaker 1: maintain his status quo of isolation on Cuba's end. Other
Speaker 1: people will point the finger at some of the US
Speaker 1: is long time recurring boogeman. A similar case was reported
Speaker 1: in Uzbekistan. A U S. A I D officer and
Speaker 1: his wife had symptoms that closely matched what was happening
Speaker 1: what the what the employees in Cuba said was happening
Speaker 1: to them, and this led some media sources to blame
Speaker 1: Russia and say that Russia was deploying this. They did
Speaker 1: it in Uzbekistan, they're doing it in Cuba. Interesting because
Speaker 1: they're bad. It's like, that's like the assumption. Well yeah,
Speaker 1: but there is another angle though, I guess because q
Speaker 1: and Russia again have a longstanding relationship, and I wonder
Speaker 1: if there was anything there. Oh man, I love I
Speaker 1: love pondering these things without knowing all the information because
Speaker 1: it leaves so many different avenues open to think about.
Speaker 1: So the other twist there is Cuba went a step further.
Speaker 1: They said there's absolutely no proof that any weapon exists
Speaker 1: or was deployed, not just by them, but by anyone.
Speaker 1: They're saying, look at what happens, look at what people
Speaker 1: are reporting. There's no gun. Yeah, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: at least no large gun. Right into Knowl's earlier point,
Speaker 1: how large would have to be. Now we have to
Speaker 1: ask ourselves, what if there's no weapon, What if there's
Speaker 1: no spoon to quote the matrix? What if what if
Speaker 1: no actual weapon exists? What does that even mean? I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, skeptics will say that allegations of this kind
Speaker 1: of sonic weaponry just don't add up and kind of
Speaker 1: defy the laws of nature of science. Yeah, right, like
Speaker 1: just the everything we know about how sound works, how
Speaker 1: it travels, like the points you brought up earlier in
Speaker 1: a like humidity, which I now feel like a fool.
Speaker 1: We were well, well, I don't know about the long
Speaker 1: distance about don't think that. Why can't we have a
Speaker 1: sonic sniper gun that just uses the technology they used
Speaker 1: to break up your kidney stones to assassinate someone from far,
Speaker 1: far away? And um, I realized now that that is
Speaker 1: a pipe dream. Maybe not. It just really were arguing
Speaker 1: the size of the gun. I guess it's true. And
Speaker 1: like you know, and when I say a long distance,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying miles. I just mean far enough away
Speaker 1: that it could be focused and used unseen. But maybe
Speaker 1: there is a way. I don't know. Yeah, I keep backpedaling.
Speaker 1: Uh you know, I'm going out there on the limb.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, it's it's possible. Well, so far we've
Speaker 1: kind of been imagining that it's one large weapon that
Speaker 1: a military someone would deploy. What if we're talking more
Speaker 1: about very tiny maybe not maybe not so tiny, but
Speaker 1: small versions that are maybe littered throughout an embassy where
Speaker 1: they're able to produce that kind of sound and have
Speaker 1: that frequency response. But they're just in the walls somewhere,
Speaker 1: or in the ducting system or somewhere where they can
Speaker 1: where it's audible, and you can still get hit with
Speaker 1: the sound waves, but you wouldn't see it. Similar preps
Speaker 1: to the way that the hotel room would be bugged
Speaker 1: with many cameras, or to get really dark and disturbing
Speaker 1: about it, the way in that show ODZ. A lot
Speaker 1: of times folks were killed by slowly being fed ground
Speaker 1: up glass and their food. Right, So if you have
Speaker 1: these sonic devices that are in your office and you
Speaker 1: go in there every day and you're constantly getting doses
Speaker 1: of this stuff, maybe it wouldn't hit you all at once,
Speaker 1: but it would slowly weaken you over time. Maybe there's
Speaker 1: an aggregate effect, especially in your sleep. M Yeah, but
Speaker 1: if the noise was audible to them, how could they sleep?
Speaker 1: You know what? There are questions they wouldn't it not
Speaker 1: be audible though, because I mean, surely when you get
Speaker 1: that treatment done, you know, for kidney stones, you're not
Speaker 1: hearing a horrible, shrill, high pitched sound. That's true. You're
Speaker 1: not but in this case, we have an example of
Speaker 1: what it did sound like that, and they were they
Speaker 1: did report an audible shrill sounds, so oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know, but that's what they heard. Also, so they
Speaker 1: may have had other times where they only you know,
Speaker 1: maybe an iceberg of sorts like the audible stuff is
Speaker 1: what they can see. That's the iceberg above the water.
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Speaker 1: just like maybe no sonic weapons exist in this situation.
Speaker 1: In fact, some neurologists have argued that the real source
Speaker 1: of the problem is not a weapon and not a
Speaker 1: sound at all. Instead, they think it's a sort of
Speaker 1: mass hysteria. Yeah, this is according to Mark Hollett, the
Speaker 1: head of a human motor control section of the u
Speaker 1: S National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke. Would you
Speaker 1: love to see that in your email? Every time you
Speaker 1: have to send something out the head of human motor control.
Speaker 1: That's very That's yeah, that's important. It does. And he says,
Speaker 1: from an objective point of view, it's more like mass
Speaker 1: hysteria than anything else. Mass hysteria is something we've mentioned before,
Speaker 1: what maybe when we talk about Salem which trials, which
Speaker 1: was the source of my ou By the way, I'm
Speaker 1: not dismissing mass hysteria, and of course can absolutely be
Speaker 1: a thing. I was just trying to play the game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I think it works. So we know massysteria is real.
Speaker 1: We know it's dangerous. It's resulted in deaths throughout history, right,
Speaker 1: oftentimes the deaths of completely innocent people. It describes an
Speaker 1: outbreak among groups of people that are partially or holy
Speaker 1: psycho somatic. And the that means without deriving these victims
Speaker 1: or placing any blame upon them, that means that their
Speaker 1: perceptions or their beliefs of what are happening, their internal
Speaker 1: narratives are determining these symptoms that they are encountering, and
Speaker 1: they're attributing that to an external source. Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: wonder throughout the investigation that's being conducted, if they're focusing
Speaker 1: on everything like the water supply for that building, because
Speaker 1: you're talking about a lot of people who are drinking
Speaker 1: the same water, who are using the same facilities, who
Speaker 1: are breathing the same air. You know, that's all in
Speaker 1: a closed system. So I wonder if you know there
Speaker 1: are other extenuating circumstances there. That's a good that's a
Speaker 1: good question. We don't know how far the investigation has
Speaker 1: gone because they're not completely public about much else other
Speaker 1: than the investigation is ongoing, phrase we hear often. Well.
Speaker 1: Alett says this is more commonly a thing that affects
Speaker 1: smaller groups of people, often in families, but he does
Speaker 1: say it's feasible for a larger group to be affected
Speaker 1: if they're working together closely, especially in in tents and
Speaker 1: hostile environment. There you go, and it's probably true they
Speaker 1: are seeing the same people every day. They're probably living
Speaker 1: in somewhat of a bubble. So that's that's a neurologist
Speaker 1: take on it, and it leads us to some conclusions
Speaker 1: where we at now. Well. The Cuban Ministry of Foreign
Speaker 1: Affairs claimed that it learned of these health issues on
Speaker 1: February seventeenth, and opened a quote comprehensive priority and urgent
Speaker 1: investigation and quote, and they formed a committee to carry
Speaker 1: out set investigation. And so that's uh February seventeen, seventeen,
Speaker 1: and we know what's been happening since before that. In
Speaker 1: sen that's just when they heard about it. And they
Speaker 1: also said the ministry had increased security around the American
Speaker 1: embassy and all of the diplomatic residences where people working
Speaker 1: at the embassy reside. And they additionally said, as as
Speaker 1: we have mentioned earlier, there's not a weapon. If there was,
Speaker 1: Cuba had nothing to do with it. Why on earth
Speaker 1: will we do that? Stop accusings of stuff? And according
Speaker 1: to a spokesman for the State Department's Bureau of Western
Speaker 1: Hemisphere Affairs, since September, the Department of State has been
Speaker 1: contacted by nineteen US citizens who are reported experiencing symptoms
Speaker 1: similar to those listed in the travel warning after visiting Cuba.
Speaker 1: So these are extra other people right who are reporting
Speaker 1: these symptoms. At this point, we do not have a
Speaker 1: conclusive cause. It's up in the air as to whether
Speaker 1: we will ever find a conclusive cause. Two of the
Speaker 1: big front runners for this event are going to be
Speaker 1: mass hysteria. If you listen to some neurologists sonic weapon,
Speaker 1: if you listen to some again enough aonymous government officials.
Speaker 1: You have to wonder about the timing of this, as
Speaker 1: Matt said, you have to wonder about the specifics and
Speaker 1: how much happened behind the curtain. But as we know now,
Speaker 1: something happened, something happened. Is there is there a cover up?
Speaker 1: Is it just a case of people being misinformed? Do
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Speaker 1: there is there's a declassified department of the Army. I
Speaker 1: guess it's just a report or part of a report
Speaker 1: that you can read search bio effects of selected non
Speaker 1: lethal weapons, and you should find a pdf. There's one
Speaker 1: on Wired I know that you can get. It's just
Speaker 1: going through a lot of the stuff with microwaves and
Speaker 1: radio frequencies and everything that they've tested over the years
Speaker 1: to see like what negative effects on the humans and
Speaker 1: other animals can occur. It's a huge read. You probably
Speaker 1: won't get through all of it, but there is some
Speaker 1: meaty stuff in there, just about the possibilities and all
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