WEBVTT - Unsolved: Is someone using sonic weapons in Cuba? 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:02.880 Before we begin today show, we have a very special announcement. 0:00:02.960 --> 0:00:04.640 Who is that guy? Get him out of here, baby, 0:00:04.760 --> 0:00:07.240 baby byep Oh, he's a very important person and you 0:00:07.280 --> 0:00:08.960 should listen to what he's gonna say. I guess if 0:00:09.000 --> 0:00:10.680 no one else is gonna be serious here, um, I 0:00:10.760 --> 0:00:14.600 might as well make the announcement myself. What's the alps surprise? Wait, 0:00:14.680 --> 0:00:16.840 not yet, but coming soon. Stuff they don't want you 0:00:16.880 --> 0:00:20.000 to know. Not only have we not gotten canceled, We're 0:00:20.000 --> 0:00:21.919 gonna up the Annie and get at two a week. 0:00:22.440 --> 0:00:25.240 That is correct. Next week you're gonna get two episodes 0:00:25.280 --> 0:00:27.240 in your feed. 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My name is Matt, my name is Meet. 0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:17.760 They called me Ben. We're joined with our super producer 0:01:17.880 --> 0:01:20.720 Paul Decans as always, but most importantly, you are you, 0:01:20.920 --> 0:01:24.800 and that makes this stuff they don't want you to know. 0:01:26.080 --> 0:01:29.800 The U. S. Military has cooked up some pretty bizarre 0:01:30.040 --> 0:01:34.200 ideas over the past few decades, and longtime listeners you 0:01:34.280 --> 0:01:37.360 know that, Matt Nolan I have covered some of the 0:01:37.440 --> 0:01:41.160 more nefarious ones in past episodes. Yeah, when you're on 0:01:41.280 --> 0:01:44.440 the edge and you're the leader of all the military technology, 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:46.880 you really just got to test it all, man. You 0:01:47.000 --> 0:01:48.600 just throwst up at the wall and see if it 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:52.760 blows it up. Literally, like the jet copter, Yes, the 0:01:52.880 --> 0:01:57.520 jet copter where someone finally came together with their friends 0:01:57.600 --> 0:02:01.040 and said, what if we had a jet that wait 0:02:01.120 --> 0:02:04.640 for it, guys, has three wings. Wait for it, guys, 0:02:04.720 --> 0:02:06.640 and each of those wings has a jet engine, and 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:10.440 wait for it, and we spin it really really fast 0:02:10.600 --> 0:02:13.440 and make it go somewhere to what end? Is this 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:16.519 is a vehicle or just an agent of chaos? It's 0:02:16.600 --> 0:02:19.720 both meant to be a vehicle didn't work out though. 0:02:19.919 --> 0:02:23.600 There's also the idea of a blinding phaser. Yeah, they 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:26.800 went Star Trek with that one. It looks really cool. Actually, 0:02:26.960 --> 0:02:29.200 it looks like one of those heavy duty Star Trek 0:02:29.639 --> 0:02:32.160 phasers that they only use when they're facing a serious 0:02:32.240 --> 0:02:35.760 threat like the Borg. Yeah, set your phasers to blind 0:02:36.720 --> 0:02:40.079 cass you, bog. I wonder how that would affect, you know, 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:42.520 because they've got the one human eye usually and then 0:02:42.760 --> 0:02:45.880 the other eye. Well, they adapt the hive mind on 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:48.919 the land of the Borg. The one eyed man is 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:55.640 a Borg assimilated, right. They're also they also tried, of course, 0:02:55.800 --> 0:03:00.280 the one of the more infamous ones was they worked 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:03.680 on a plan for a bomb that would turn people 0:03:03.800 --> 0:03:07.120 into homosexuals. Is that the one that Alex Jones is 0:03:07.160 --> 0:03:11.000 always talking about turns to all the frogs gay as 0:03:11.120 --> 0:03:17.400 He's also he's thinking about environmental contaminant too, I think right. Uh, 0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:22.160 hands down my favorite one was a pigeon guided missile. 0:03:23.080 --> 0:03:25.040 This one just really quick to get into it. I 0:03:25.120 --> 0:03:28.760 don't think we've ever talked about it before in the show. Maybe, Okay, No, 0:03:29.280 --> 0:03:32.000 So this guy b F. Skinner during around the World 0:03:32.040 --> 0:03:34.480 War two times, I was trying to figure out a 0:03:34.600 --> 0:03:37.920 way to basically have a missile hone in on somebody, 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:40.400 and he thought, oh, you know what I've got honing 0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:44.480 pigeons honing missile. Let's put these two together. And he 0:03:44.680 --> 0:03:50.400 literally made a warhead that was three pigeons sitting inside 0:03:50.520 --> 0:03:56.080 of warhead, live pigeons that had these rudimentary screens of 0:03:56.360 --> 0:03:58.600 and it would show what the ground looked like as 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:01.160 this missile is flying through the air, and the pigeons, 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:04.080 if they see the target that they've been trained to attack, 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:07.800 they would all, in theory, pick at the screen, and 0:04:07.880 --> 0:04:11.520 if all three packed at the screen, then detonation would occur. 0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:15.400 Of course, this makes quite a few assumptions. The idea 0:04:15.480 --> 0:04:18.200 that the pigeons would behave normally when they're strapped into 0:04:18.240 --> 0:04:22.360 this contraction, right, uh, the idea that that redundancy would work. 0:04:23.440 --> 0:04:27.880 Members of the National Research Defense Committee did give him 0:04:27.920 --> 0:04:31.240 twenty five grand to do this again. Throw it at 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:33.760 the wall, see if it blows up. There were also 0:04:33.960 --> 0:04:39.600 bat bombs, seeking to utilize the echolocative abilities of bats. 0:04:40.360 --> 0:04:42.840 There's actually a really great episode of the lovely podcast 0:04:42.880 --> 0:04:46.200 of the Memory Palace called Itty Bitty Bombs that talks 0:04:46.240 --> 0:04:49.480 about that very thing, and check it out if you 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:52.400 get a chance, of course, this isn't gonna be an 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:57.320 episode where we just heap ridicule on Uncle Sam, because 0:04:57.440 --> 0:05:00.480 Uncle Sam is not the only government thinking outside of 0:05:00.520 --> 0:05:03.159 the box when it comes to military hardware and techniques. 0:05:03.560 --> 0:05:07.599 In the cryptocurrency series that we earlier recorded, we spoke 0:05:07.720 --> 0:05:11.760 with our old friend Jonathan Strickland about a larger trend 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:15.880 toward what's called asymmetrical warfare. And that's the idea that 0:05:16.040 --> 0:05:19.240 if you and like, if the three of us are 0:05:19.400 --> 0:05:23.839 the top military minds of China or Russia or something, 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:27.680 we know that we cannot compete one on one in 0:05:27.800 --> 0:05:31.880 a conventional battle with the United States. But maybe it 0:05:32.000 --> 0:05:37.720 turns out that Noel has a great lead on information warfare. 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:40.800 Maybe it turns out that Matt is super good at 0:05:40.880 --> 0:05:44.880 delivering poison and unexpected ways. It's all about innovation, and 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:48.520 you're right, unexpectedness, right, the element of surprise, And this 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:52.200 is where we see things like Soviet attack dolphins, or 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:55.880 like the United Kingdom's ill fated attempt to build an 0:05:55.920 --> 0:05:59.599 aircraft carrier that was also an iceberg because no one 0:05:59.600 --> 0:06:02.200 would ever see it coming because it moves so slowly 0:06:02.520 --> 0:06:06.640 it's almost imperceptible that it's coming at you. Yeah, and 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:10.120 sure it's that I could be doing much damage around 0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:13.800 the equator, but man, but they wanted to try it. 0:06:13.920 --> 0:06:18.080 And there are there numerous other silly examples. We've looked 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:23.120 at the assassination attempts for Fidel Castro in a different show, 0:06:23.400 --> 0:06:26.120 Noel and I looked at uh an attempt to kill 0:06:26.200 --> 0:06:30.320 Winston Churchill via an evil chocolate bars bloating chocolate where 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:33.800 and when you broke that delightful little line of demarcation 0:06:34.200 --> 0:06:37.560 to get that perfect chocolate square, it would blow your 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:40.560 fingers and face off. Jeez. And there was also a 0:06:40.720 --> 0:06:46.240 halitosis bomb, which is super interesting because halitosis was primarily 0:06:46.360 --> 0:06:51.680 condition made up by advertisers. So it's a bad breath bomb, right, 0:06:52.360 --> 0:06:55.520 and halitosis as a condition is not real. That sounds 0:06:55.560 --> 0:06:58.240 like more of a prank. Yeah, I think you just 0:06:58.320 --> 0:07:00.800 get that by eating regular cho clip and then not 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:04.640 brushing your teeth because you Americans full ruining. How a 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:10.680 great evil limbio without terrible breath so minty freshness aside, 0:07:10.800 --> 0:07:13.520 a lot of these techniques and these weapons and this 0:07:13.680 --> 0:07:17.920 hardware the various governments dream up never make it past 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:21.640 the brainstorming. Wouldn't it be cool if phase or the 0:07:21.720 --> 0:07:26.640 research and development phase. Somebody somewhere along the line thankfully says, guys, 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:28.800 I think jet copter is kind of a dumb idea, 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:33.200 or someone says, would ever say that it sounds amazing, 0:07:34.720 --> 0:07:36.720 sounds of aazing I guess depends on what you wanted 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:39.120 for as an agent of chaos, it would be one 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:43.560 of the coolest fireworks ever. That's true. But the problem 0:07:43.800 --> 0:07:47.360 is this, it can be very difficult for us, the 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:51.960 general public, even members of other militaries, even in the 0:07:52.040 --> 0:07:54.640 top levels of intelligence, it can be very difficult to 0:07:54.720 --> 0:07:58.040 tell what has actually been deployed, what was kicked around 0:07:58.080 --> 0:08:01.560 and then scrapped, what's active working is under wraps, or 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:04.120 as we saw offt in the Cold War, what's been 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:07.040 just sort of marketed as something to be scared of, 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:10.960 as an attempt to drain the other side's resources. Right, 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:14.360 there's a lot of propaganda around, you know, a lot 0:08:14.440 --> 0:08:16.720 of these things do come into the public eye, but 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:20.800 only after something goes really, really wrong, as we saw 0:08:20.840 --> 0:08:24.160 in the case with that stealth helicopter. Yeah, in the 0:08:25.000 --> 0:08:30.240 US raid on the bin laden compound in Islamabad, most 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:35.199 of the taxpayer public learned that stealth helicopters were a 0:08:35.280 --> 0:08:39.280 thing when one of them crashed, and you guys remember that, right, Well, 0:08:39.320 --> 0:08:41.160 you would hope that you wouldn't know about a stealth 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:47.439 helicopter unless it's stealth abilities failed drastically, yeah, or or 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:49.520 you wouldn't know about it until you heard the sound 0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:53.840 of whatever you know, weaponry it's got on it. Yeah. 0:08:54.000 --> 0:08:59.040 So this is interesting because ethically, there's a little bit 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:03.800 of a pickle. You know, most people pay taxes on 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:07.280 some level, right, whether it's sales or property or income 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:10.840 or just something. Most people pay taxes and often don't 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:16.079 know where that money is going. So these weapons, this 0:09:16.360 --> 0:09:20.320 suppressed technology, of this classified technology definitely does exist. It's 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:23.800 not a conspiracy theory to say that, it's conspiracy realism. 0:09:24.320 --> 0:09:27.559 And there are a number of compelling arguments for why 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:31.400 that should be kept secret, why we should be paying 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:34.320 for things that we don't know about, and even when 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:38.800 they might adversely affect US national security. And let's move 0:09:38.840 --> 0:09:43.920 on the Great Boogeyman, right, And now we're at a 0:09:43.960 --> 0:09:46.599 point where it turns out that just last year we 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:49.480 may have learned of another type of weapons something we 0:09:49.559 --> 0:09:52.920 knew could exist in theory, but hadn't seen an action 0:09:53.679 --> 0:10:00.280 this way. Here's where it gets crazy already already. Yeah, So, 0:10:00.440 --> 0:10:03.439 over the course of two years, two thousands sixteen and 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:07.360 two thousands seventeen, there were some weird stuff going on 0:10:07.640 --> 0:10:10.480 in Cuba. Specifically, there were U. S. Citizens who were 0:10:10.559 --> 0:10:13.720 serving at the embassy there. They were complaining of these 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:17.360 various strange ailments. A lot of it had to do 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:20.560 with things affecting their ears and their ability to hear, 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:23.320 like they were they were experiencing hearing loss, they were 0:10:23.360 --> 0:10:26.360 experiencing vertigo, feeling like they were going to fall or 0:10:26.400 --> 0:10:30.600 were falling, they were having headaches. They were even complaining 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:36.120 about cognitive cognitive deficiencies like having problems remembering something. Uh, 0:10:36.559 --> 0:10:38.079 you know, more than just when you walk through a 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:40.440 door and you forget something, which is something we all experienced. 0:10:40.600 --> 0:10:43.439 They were talking about much more severe versions of this 0:10:44.160 --> 0:10:47.680 um and just just so everybody knows, severe hearing loss 0:10:47.800 --> 0:10:51.440 was the most common complaint, like I cannot hear right 0:10:51.520 --> 0:10:53.760 now and I've never had a problem with this before 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:57.120 in my life. And the injuries were thankfully not found 0:10:57.200 --> 0:11:01.960 to be life threatening, but all of the victims had 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:08.520 a primary complaint that preceded their experience of this vertigo, 0:11:08.720 --> 0:11:13.800 this hearing loss, this difficulty with recollection, and it's this 0:11:14.840 --> 0:11:20.680 They heard a distinct, loud, pitched, incredibly annoying and painful 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:24.960 sound and unusual places, including their homes. Shall we punish 0:11:25.320 --> 0:11:36.240 our listeners with the clip, yes, and ourselves. So the 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:39.440 caveat that there are a few limiting factors here. Um, 0:11:39.640 --> 0:11:44.760 this is multiple frequencies stacked together, but they're not just 0:11:44.920 --> 0:11:47.719 the ones that the human ear can perceive or that 0:11:47.840 --> 0:11:51.679 can be recreated with phones or speakers or any other 0:11:51.920 --> 0:11:54.840 method of reproducing sound. That's a really good point exactly 0:11:54.960 --> 0:11:57.640 that that sound comes from the Associated Press. They actually 0:11:57.679 --> 0:12:01.600 went in they got this sound while they were in Cuba, 0:12:01.720 --> 0:12:05.240 and they were just mentioning that there's a lot of 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:09.560 lower much lower frequency and much higher frequency stuff going on. Sure. Yeah, 0:12:09.720 --> 0:12:13.160 And eventually the State Department did go public with this. 0:12:13.480 --> 0:12:17.839 Keep in mind first reports or from sien soeen. The 0:12:17.920 --> 0:12:21.840 State Department goes public, they pull all the non essential 0:12:22.000 --> 0:12:24.800 staff from the embassy there in Havana and the capital 0:12:24.840 --> 0:12:28.360 of Cuba, and they allow others to return to the 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:32.440 US for treatment. On May twenty three, the State Department 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:38.199 also began expelling Cuban diplomats. They started with two. Eventually 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:41.600 they would expel fifteen in total from the United States. 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:44.800 And it should be noted here that the Cuban the 0:12:44.880 --> 0:12:49.000 Cuban government vehemently denies than anything is going on here 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:52.240 like there they had any involvement in these health incidents. 0:12:52.720 --> 0:12:55.440 H And there's a quote right here. Cuba has never 0:12:55.720 --> 0:12:59.439 nor would it ever allow that the Cuban territory be 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:02.800 used for any action against accredited diplomatic agents or their 0:13:02.840 --> 0:13:07.679 families without exception, full stop, pretty categorical there, you know. 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:12.880 And although the US officially states they're still investigating the 0:13:13.040 --> 0:13:17.520 cause of these conditions, government officials from the U S side, 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:20.599 from Uncle Sam, speaking on the condition of anonymity, have 0:13:20.760 --> 0:13:24.880 said that they believe someone in Cuba was operating a 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:29.839 quote sonic weapon. So what could the sonic weapon be, 0:13:30.720 --> 0:13:39.199 We'll tell you after a word from our sponsors. So 0:13:39.600 --> 0:13:43.199 sonic weapons. You might also hear these called ultrasonic weapons 0:13:43.280 --> 0:13:46.760 or us WUS do what it says on the tin, 0:13:47.000 --> 0:13:52.040 they use sound to incapacitate, injure or potentially in theory 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:55.800 kill they're victims, believe it or not, through the use 0:13:55.960 --> 0:13:59.880 of sound alone and perhaps you've heard of these web 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:04.280 and being deployed by police and for the purposes of 0:14:04.480 --> 0:14:07.800 crowd disposal or crawlling. One of the most well known 0:14:07.880 --> 0:14:10.840 examples of this, at least in the world of policing, 0:14:11.280 --> 0:14:15.520 is something called the long range Acoustic device or l RAD. Yeah, 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:19.840 this thing produces noises fifty times above the human threshold 0:14:19.880 --> 0:14:22.720 for pain, So that moment when you're listening to music 0:14:22.800 --> 0:14:24.680 at a concert and you start to go, oh wait, 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:27.640 this actually hurts a little bit. It's it's fifty times 0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:31.600 above that. It's about around one and twenty to one 0:14:32.080 --> 0:14:36.200 and forty decibels at high power. This sort of stuff 0:14:36.240 --> 0:14:39.640 can cause nausea, vomiting, and so on. However, it is 0:14:39.760 --> 0:14:44.440 considered a non lethal weapon. It's literally just so loud 0:14:44.560 --> 0:14:47.800 that it hurts to be there. So crowds that, you know, 0:14:48.280 --> 0:14:54.160 Occupy Wall Street or um the ferguson Um protests, sure, yeah, 0:14:54.720 --> 0:14:57.720 for any protests or something. The idea is that they go, ah, 0:14:57.840 --> 0:15:00.920 my ears, I'm leaving. I'm more of a fan of 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:04.680 non lethal weapon two, which one is that the one 0:15:04.720 --> 0:15:09.720 with jo I wonder why they never did a non 0:15:09.840 --> 0:15:12.040 lethal weapon. That's actually a good idea, And I think 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:14.360 I think it'd be kind of dull, right, nothing would happen. 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:18.640 What was the what was the parody of the lethal 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:25.800 weapon series was naked gun, Naked Gun, Well Weapon, police 0:15:25.800 --> 0:15:29.520 squad Leslie Nielsen. Wasn't there one called legal weapon or 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:32.680 something like that. It doesn't matter. It doesn't think one 0:15:32.720 --> 0:15:35.040 of those Hollywood knockoffs. So we'll get back to that. 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:38.000 We've got top men on the research here. In the meantime, 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:40.600 you'll hear a lot of variations on this basic idea 0:15:40.600 --> 0:15:43.720 of sound as a weapon, loaded weapon, loaded weapon there, 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:46.480 and it was called loaded weapon one, and there wasn't 0:15:46.520 --> 0:15:50.200 a sequel that. It's important that we have that solved. 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:53.920 So the variations you'll hear, much like the variations of 0:15:54.040 --> 0:15:57.440 lethal versus loaded weapon, we're all gonna be new takes 0:15:57.520 --> 0:16:01.200 on the same concept. You'll hear about grenade, something you 0:16:01.280 --> 0:16:05.160 could throw that emits a powerful, dangerous sound, sonic cannons, 0:16:05.480 --> 0:16:09.400 sonic guns, and so on, and this hardware can produce 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:13.080 different effects. The majority that we know about right now 0:16:13.240 --> 0:16:17.320 are designed to be non lethal, painful, slap on the wrist, 0:16:17.360 --> 0:16:20.360 don't do it. We're not minimizing the effects of these 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:25.880 because non lethal weapons that terms sometimes gets a better 0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:31.280 rep than it deserves. Technically, people who shoot rock salt 0:16:31.440 --> 0:16:35.360 at you out of a shotgun are exercising a non 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:37.400 lethal weapon. But I can tell you that is a 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:40.000 very painful experience. And I mean it could you know, 0:16:40.240 --> 0:16:44.040 injure you such that you could die from your wound 0:16:44.520 --> 0:16:46.600 if there'sn't get an infection or something like that. Totally 0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:48.880 you would bleed from getting shot with rock salid I 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:52.240 think right, yes, depend on distance, yeah, well, and things 0:16:52.280 --> 0:16:55.400 like tasers too that are considered less than lethal do 0:16:55.720 --> 0:16:58.520 have You can be killed by that because you're dealing 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:02.000 with your heart, and everybody has a different leaf functioning 0:17:02.080 --> 0:17:05.280 heart and circulatory system and everything, so much in the 0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:08.800 same way you can imagine, there are there are dangers, yeah, 0:17:09.000 --> 0:17:11.879 especially you might have a pre existing heart condition or something, 0:17:11.960 --> 0:17:16.720 and then it's boom, game over. So some are designed. 0:17:16.800 --> 0:17:19.480 Some of these weapons are designed to shoot what's called 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:22.440 a focus point or focused area of sound, like a 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:25.000 bullet from a gun or maybe a laser is a 0:17:25.080 --> 0:17:29.960 better a better description, while others create a sustained field 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:34.639 of effect. Despite their names, not all these weapons are gigantic, 0:17:35.000 --> 0:17:39.960 big booming, oversized nighties, golden era of hip hop boom boxes. 0:17:41.200 --> 0:17:43.960 They're operating, some of them are operating outside of the 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:47.800 range of human hearing, like Nolan, Matt we're talking about 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:53.120 with the clip that they played and what what's happening there. 0:17:53.520 --> 0:17:56.680 It's similar to that so called brown note. Do you 0:17:56.720 --> 0:17:59.480 guys remember the story of the brown note? I think 0:17:59.560 --> 0:18:02.959 South part made it famous. Yeah, yeah, it's the one 0:18:03.040 --> 0:18:09.600 you can't hear but makes you poop, which we we've 0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:12.440 examined in the past. At this point, there is no 0:18:12.600 --> 0:18:15.800 universally accepted proof of the brown note, And who knows. 0:18:16.400 --> 0:18:19.200 Maybe it's because it's not real. Maybe it's because everybody 0:18:19.200 --> 0:18:22.440 who proved it was too embarrassed, you know, nobody wanted 0:18:22.520 --> 0:18:26.879 to soil themselves for the sake of scientific research. But 0:18:27.000 --> 0:18:30.280 we're pretty sure it's at this point, Yeah, there's no 0:18:30.600 --> 0:18:34.239 there's no real solid proof. So what this means if 0:18:34.320 --> 0:18:38.159 something is outside the range of conscious human hearing, is 0:18:38.240 --> 0:18:41.200 that victims can feel the effects of one of these 0:18:41.720 --> 0:18:46.199 pieces of technology without necessarily associating those effects with an 0:18:46.240 --> 0:18:50.600 actual sound. And through part of this, I have to 0:18:50.960 --> 0:18:55.800 defer to my colleagues Matt and Null here because you 0:18:55.960 --> 0:19:00.840 all are audio experts and you have. I think you 0:19:00.960 --> 0:19:06.760 can give a good explanation at times with what sound is, 0:19:07.000 --> 0:19:09.639 how it works, how the perception of sound works, what 0:19:09.800 --> 0:19:11.440 we mean when we say a frequency, and all that. 0:19:12.000 --> 0:19:13.840 So I just want to set that up that I 0:19:13.920 --> 0:19:17.119 may ask some questions that relatively elementary to you. All, Okay, 0:19:17.760 --> 0:19:20.359 no problem, and I will probably defer to Noel. So 0:19:20.440 --> 0:19:22.080 I'm gonna set him up with a question right now, 0:19:22.160 --> 0:19:24.200 and I will defer and turn back to Matt, and 0:19:24.280 --> 0:19:27.320 then I will then defer to Paul, and and then 0:19:27.400 --> 0:19:30.240 he will defer to you, ben Um, and then we'll 0:19:30.280 --> 0:19:34.879 defer to you specifically, you listener. So here we go. 0:19:35.000 --> 0:19:38.040 Here's the round robin. So when you're dealing with sounds, 0:19:38.119 --> 0:19:41.200 you're talking about waves. You're talking about energy being moved 0:19:41.320 --> 0:19:44.560 through the air with these waves, So you've got amplitudes, 0:19:45.359 --> 0:19:50.040 you've got frequencies, so like how close together, uh, the 0:19:50.480 --> 0:19:54.800 sound wave is happening, how large that wave actually is, 0:19:54.920 --> 0:19:58.879 which translates to volume. So there are all kinds of 0:19:58.920 --> 0:20:00.840 things that we're gonna be discussing as we get into this, 0:20:00.920 --> 0:20:04.240 and we're talking about hurts, killer hurts and mega hurts. 0:20:04.400 --> 0:20:05.680 Do you want to walk us through any of that? 0:20:06.640 --> 0:20:09.920 I mean only that it's a spectrum in the same 0:20:09.920 --> 0:20:13.119 way that color is a spectrum. And you know, sound 0:20:13.560 --> 0:20:18.000 is measured from the lowest uh to the highest in 0:20:18.160 --> 0:20:20.600 terms of and then you know as something goes from 0:20:20.720 --> 0:20:24.600 low frequency to high frequency, they get closer together, so 0:20:24.720 --> 0:20:26.680 you can see it like on a wave form, a 0:20:26.800 --> 0:20:28.800 lower sound is going to be is going to have 0:20:29.160 --> 0:20:30.960 more space in between them than the higher sound is 0:20:30.960 --> 0:20:33.200 going to have less space in between. And just to 0:20:33.280 --> 0:20:35.280 jump in, when I say low, I mean low and 0:20:35.440 --> 0:20:38.040 pitch and high end pitch when I'm talking about volumes. 0:20:38.080 --> 0:20:40.879 So a lower sound could have a wavelength up to 0:20:41.440 --> 0:20:45.000 seventeen meters, which would be twenty hurts, and then a 0:20:45.119 --> 0:20:48.720 high frequency could have something that you would measure in centimeters, 0:20:48.920 --> 0:20:52.879 which would be twenty thousand hurts. Wow. And it's also 0:20:53.040 --> 0:20:57.080 important to remember that when you're hearing sounds, it's not 0:20:57.280 --> 0:21:00.600 just your ears. Your entire body is being embarded by 0:21:00.880 --> 0:21:04.080 these waves that are coming from a source. So you know, 0:21:04.119 --> 0:21:06.879 when you imagine as a weapon, it's it's not like 0:21:06.920 --> 0:21:10.720 they're attacking your ears, They're attacking your entire corporeal form. 0:21:11.080 --> 0:21:13.000 And in the case of the brown note, your bowels. 0:21:13.119 --> 0:21:15.240 That would be a very low sound that would move 0:21:15.800 --> 0:21:20.240 you and your bowels and make you And that's that's 0:21:20.240 --> 0:21:24.520 an incredibly important point. You know, the brown note may 0:21:24.640 --> 0:21:29.080 sound humorous, but Matt, you're absolutely correct in that this does. 0:21:29.680 --> 0:21:33.879 It's a body wide affect. Your drums and the auditory 0:21:33.920 --> 0:21:35.720 system are going to be the most sensitive and the 0:21:35.800 --> 0:21:37.920 thing we notice the most, but that doesn't mean the 0:21:37.960 --> 0:21:40.040 rest of the body is immune to it. And if 0:21:40.080 --> 0:21:41.840 you hear a low sound, like a real bassi sound 0:21:41.880 --> 0:21:43.720 at a concert, you can feel it in your guts 0:21:43.760 --> 0:21:47.080 and your sternum and stuff, you know, And that's what 0:21:47.240 --> 0:21:54.639 sound is, right, vibration. So this idea of taking taking 0:21:54.680 --> 0:21:58.040 a phenomenon is responsible for some of the most beautiful 0:21:58.160 --> 0:22:02.639 moments of human existence. Listening to music, communicating, saying I 0:22:02.800 --> 0:22:06.000 love you to a relative or you know, someone you're 0:22:06.080 --> 0:22:08.520 hitting on a romantic partner, hearing your son's voice for 0:22:08.560 --> 0:22:11.359 the first time. There we go, There we go. The 0:22:11.440 --> 0:22:14.879 idea of turning that into a weapon sounds like some 0:22:15.000 --> 0:22:18.040 old school sci fi comic book stuff from the Golden 0:22:18.119 --> 0:22:21.119 age of comics, But the truth is this technology is 0:22:21.200 --> 0:22:24.280 not theoretical. It's already being deployed in the field on 0:22:24.359 --> 0:22:28.800 an experimental marginal basis, and research on it continues. And 0:22:28.880 --> 0:22:31.520 this is not just a thing that is the domain 0:22:31.680 --> 0:22:36.200 of DARPA. Multiple government agencies across the world have conducted 0:22:36.280 --> 0:22:39.560 research with this, along with quite a few private entities. 0:22:39.600 --> 0:22:42.520 And they're doing that because science backs up the claim 0:22:42.600 --> 0:22:45.520 that sound can be used as a weapon. Earlier, we 0:22:45.640 --> 0:22:48.520 had explored the use of sound as a psychological or 0:22:48.840 --> 0:22:52.280 even a supernatural weapon shout out to us, See you 0:22:52.400 --> 0:22:55.520 next time, But the weapons were exploring now are meant 0:22:55.600 --> 0:22:59.760 to physically injure people. We know that high powered sound 0:22:59.800 --> 0:23:03.240 way waves can easily disrupt or even destroy ear drums, 0:23:03.600 --> 0:23:07.680 and this creates intense disorientation because our inner ear is 0:23:07.920 --> 0:23:12.000 a primary method of determining balance for an individual body. 0:23:13.000 --> 0:23:15.560 It's making me think back to those side effects he 0:23:15.600 --> 0:23:17.040 talked about at the top of the show, that it 0:23:17.119 --> 0:23:19.639 could cause you to get a little caddy wamp us 0:23:19.760 --> 0:23:23.000 and start to kind of get that vertigo makes me 0:23:23.080 --> 0:23:27.479 think of the character on Arrested Development played by Liza Manelli, 0:23:27.600 --> 0:23:30.520 who's always got that she's got a case of the disease, 0:23:30.840 --> 0:23:32.359 and she'll be walking around normal and then all of 0:23:32.359 --> 0:23:34.359 a sudden kind of like well, stubble and then kind 0:23:34.400 --> 0:23:35.879 of have to pick herself back up. You know, it's 0:23:35.880 --> 0:23:37.800 a it's a legitimate thing that people suffer from, just 0:23:38.119 --> 0:23:43.760 you know, without being afflicted by weird secret government sound cannons. Yes, yeah, 0:23:44.160 --> 0:23:48.520 and high intensity ultrasound of frequencies from seven kill it 0:23:48.640 --> 0:23:52.200 hurts to three point six mega hurts can cause lung 0:23:52.359 --> 0:23:55.600 and intestinal damage in mice. So it's beyond the year. 0:23:57.320 --> 0:24:01.359 We luckily don't have hard data about that in the 0:24:01.480 --> 0:24:05.920 realm of human experimentation, at least not that is publicly available. Right, 0:24:06.880 --> 0:24:14.199 heart rate patterns following vibroacoustic simulation can create serious negative consequences, uh, 0:24:14.280 --> 0:24:19.200 such as Brady cardia atrial flutter. Sonic weapons are used 0:24:19.280 --> 0:24:23.720 in non military applications too. Yes, there is a ship 0:24:23.880 --> 0:24:27.640 called the s Born Spirit that at one point used 0:24:27.680 --> 0:24:31.000 a long range acoustic device and l RAD to deter 0:24:31.320 --> 0:24:33.840 some pirates that were attempting to board the ship and 0:24:34.200 --> 0:24:37.080 and take things from it and perhaps even take the ship. 0:24:37.800 --> 0:24:41.040 And they successfully used it, Yeah, they did. There's there's 0:24:41.040 --> 0:24:46.200 another example that I find pretty funny, and I hope 0:24:46.240 --> 0:24:48.320 that no one was seriously injured with this. But in 0:24:48.400 --> 0:24:52.800