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Speaker 1: All right, as much as I hate it on that

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Speaker 2: You don't mind?

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Speaker 3: Wait, man, yeah, I know I have been.

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Speaker 4: I've been thinking about that recently because the Warriors are

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Speaker 4: so I for doing that, I had to get my

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Speaker 4: mind like, you know, you got to get ready for

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Speaker 4: something now, becuming me to cut you off. But I cried, well,

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Speaker 4: I don't know because and I had to tell it.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't gonna cry.

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Speaker 4: I had to tell my man, but truly no rights

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Speaker 4: was like, you excited. I'm like, Zaza, honestly, I don't

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Speaker 3: I ain't even had.

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Speaker 4: A chance to think about it. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: And you know how you and I are, how we are.

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Speaker 4: It's like, all right, what we're doing next, Let's get

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Speaker 3: Let's get to it.

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Speaker 4: So we don't even allow ourselves to reflect or even

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Speaker 4: enjoy our successes because we're like, man, all right, I

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Speaker 3: Let's let's let's go to the next thing.

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Speaker 4: And so I'm like, I've been so swamped trying to

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Speaker 4: I laugh about the Brons and d Wade and Bosh's interview.

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Speaker 3: You know, Bron's like not one, not two, not three.

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Speaker 4: But I go back to my press conference, which was

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Speaker 4: ain't gonna pick up no national news. You know, Dwight

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Speaker 4: I mentioned, like, yo, like I just played against this

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Speaker 3: Like I feel like I'm a piece.

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Speaker 4: I'm that piece that can be the one that kind

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Speaker 4: of gets us to the next round or having opportunity

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Speaker 4: to look at a championship. Now, I never won a championship.

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Speaker 4: know what it's like. So, you know, it's always cliche

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Speaker 4: to say you're gonna win a championship. Obviously the heat

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Speaker 4: y'all gonna compete for championship every single year. When Bron

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Speaker 4: it's just like, I don't know, I feel like it's

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Speaker 4: can compete with a championship until you get there the

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Speaker 4: first time. And so building that team, we were just

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Speaker 4: super tight knit. We were winning games. We know Steph

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Speaker 4: is Steph. Mark Jackson then told us Steph is Steph.

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Speaker 4: Y'all go see in the minute, he gonna be MVP.

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Speaker 4: Mark Jackson have been saying this for like two or

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Speaker 4: three years already before anybody was thinking about it, which

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Speaker 4: was a crazy thing. He was like, Steph's our guy.

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Speaker 4: Nobody on his team getting his way. Now, how many

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Speaker 4: times you didn't seen that where coach tell the whole team, hey, man, ain't.

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Speaker 3: Nobody gonna get his dues way?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I That's why I wanted to be

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Speaker 4: we ain't gonna have no hayting. We aint gonna have

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Speaker 4: we got we don't even know we got something special.

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Speaker 4: But everybody's approaching it the right way. And you know

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Speaker 4: how I can be in professional sports, like it takes

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Speaker 4: one guy to get mad at It takes one guy

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Speaker 5: because you went to Denver before you were there and

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Speaker 5: you just missed Mellow, but you did play for George

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Speaker 5: call How was that planning for George Callings? And I

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Speaker 5: don't understand it because I fuck with Mellow and and

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Speaker 3: Mellow ain't the only one.

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Speaker 4: If you go on Twitter, what is going on, Georgia,

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Speaker 4: George sent me a shot?

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Speaker 3: Oh he shot you with you too, every like twice

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Speaker 5: So? I got respect for him. I don't know him personally,

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Speaker 2: As the coach, I respect for him. But what what

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Speaker 4: So we're playing the Warriors in the in the playoff

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Speaker 3: In Denver, we.

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Speaker 4: Still got the team record for most wins in the

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Speaker 4: regular season, the team Denver team.

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Speaker 3: I was how that fifty seven?

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Speaker 4: It's the most wins in Denver Nuggets regular season history.

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Speaker 4: Gallo towards a c L like seven games to go,

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Speaker 4: He was my's Goy was better than people think too.

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Speaker 4: With us, it was before all that, and so that's

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Speaker 4: why I want MVP, because I had kept that kept

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Speaker 4: putting him on me. But we'll get to that disrespect right, right,

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Speaker 4: and Moscot can play and so those two go down.

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Speaker 4: and the strategy wasn't necessarily excess and those and so

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Speaker 3: So we just we just basically about to lose, you know.

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Speaker 4: We we know, we players, you know, we got a

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Speaker 4: Like, why y'all trying to do this to my guys?

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Speaker 4: Like what's like? Come on, dog like keep it keep

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Speaker 4: it a buck like what we doing? And I'm like, Mark,

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Speaker 4: I don't play like that, fam, I'm a real hooper.

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Speaker 4: I don't do that. That was the conversation. Throw the

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Speaker 4: hurt my guys and play dirty. That's how Mark interpreted, right,

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Speaker 3: That's not what you said, right.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, Mark, I don't. I don't move like that, fam,

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. And so we lose a

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Speaker 4: series because certain coach coaches, you know, they're known to

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Speaker 4: fall short when it gets real. Everybody got a sky report,

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Speaker 4: Yeah I got a I got weaknesses in my sky

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Speaker 4: coaches were off limits. Y'all gotta be held accountable too.

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Speaker 4: So certain coaches have the most regular season wins in

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Speaker 4: And then now the truth is coming to light, and

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Speaker 3: That's what happened.

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Speaker 4: So we got a mole on our team, is what

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Speaker 4: We got a guy on our team telling the other

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Speaker 4: first and foremost, that say't not this is not a game.

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Speaker 5: Plan, motherfucking Detroit Pistons against the Bulls.

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Speaker 4: But that they have they had actual game plan behind

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Speaker 4: the Jordan rules. If Jordan gets a certain point, you

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Speaker 4: a certain thing. Ours was like, I didn't brass knuckles, man, elbow, elbow,

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Speaker 3: And I'm just saying to.

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Speaker 3: So it's like I come up to you.

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Speaker 2: I'm coming up to you.

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Speaker 3: Hey, who the first person you're gonna hit tonight.

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Speaker 5: What you're gonna say, Look as you talk about I

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Speaker 3: Who you hit?

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Speaker 2: Like you mean because we ain't got no game.

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Speaker 4: No, no, we need to just we need just people

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Speaker 4: to feel our physicality.

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Speaker 3: Just hit somebody.

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Speaker 4: And I'm like, all right, cool, we're gonna play more physical,

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Speaker 4: but don't go ask my seven footer who the first

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna hit Steph. I'm like wrong answer, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: That's how Steph getting open. So it's like and this

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Speaker 4: All right, were gonna be physical, So who you're gonna

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Speaker 2: Like that's different.

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Speaker 5: And I've been about physicality and I've been about competition

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Speaker 5: my whole life, but I've never been set at the

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Speaker 5: meeting with coach like who you gonna hit to night?

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Speaker 2: I ain't never had that conversation.

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Speaker 3: And your big picks the smallest person. Yeah, I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: I'm just and so I'm looking. I'm like they asked,

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Speaker 4: like who you're gonna hit? All right, I'm gonna hit Bogit.

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I'm gonna hit Carl Andry. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like I'm hitting him. They

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Speaker 4: if I can.

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Speaker 5: If I can hit him, if I can show weakness

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Speaker 4: But it's just like I'm just like, I'm like, what

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Speaker 4: how to do it. Yeah, thing we're practicing it, were

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Speaker 4: what y'all doing out there? This ain't who And that's

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Speaker 4: why we losing. We down three one that we already

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Speaker 2: Don't even play yo.

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Speaker 5: I hate and and I understand there's adjustments, but I

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Speaker 3: The whole thing.

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Speaker 2: I hate when coaches.

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Speaker 5: Do That's to me, that's that's fucking over coaching. Like

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Speaker 5: that's like, you do what the fuck you do? You

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Speaker 4: Because one thing about Doc, Doc was really good at

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Speaker 4: And it's true to It's like, instead of me getting

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Speaker 5: I never played for Doc, Mike. Was Doc in Orlando?

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Speaker 5: Did you play for Doc in Orlando?

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Speaker 3: Mike?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I'll let you speak on Doc, but I will tell

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Speaker 5: we knew what Doc was gonna run, but they got

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we knew exactly what Doc was gonna run.

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Speaker 5: We knew if it was gonna be for Ray, we

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Speaker 5: But he would get a good shot every time out

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Speaker 5: of the time. Out That shit drove me crazy. Whether

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Speaker 3: Don't get in the same way.

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Speaker 4: I never played for Doc, but I'm seeing it like

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Speaker 4: he drew, he drew up a game winning played. I'm like,

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Speaker 4: we was all over here and the play was like,

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Speaker 4: oh that was incredible.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I talk about that, Mike, because you you've been

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Speaker 2: Bro he gets get hedraw up Doctor Lee the ship.

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Speaker 1: But Doc with Doc was let us town win right

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Speaker 1: Like I got in the way of that we talk

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Speaker 1: as players, and he allowed those guys inside of a system. Yes,

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Speaker 1: he dictated a system get those guys players shots. But

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Speaker 1: Doc simplifies stuff. He was, my players are better than

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Speaker 3: Were, true Hooper.

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Speaker 4: That's how Hoop is think and that's what I'm saying about.

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Speaker 4: And that's what I'm saying about this the guy, the

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Speaker 4: game's going. And so it's funny because you know that's

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Speaker 4: his excuse. You know, he got one other job after that,

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Speaker 4: George Cartid. He went to Sack and it was short

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Speaker 4: lived with DeMarcus and now him and DeMarcus at Us

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Speaker 4: and then he had that he wrote a book and

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Speaker 4: he spoke a certain way about Kenyam Martin and j R.

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Speaker 4: Smith talking about you know, NBA black players not having

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Speaker 3: Went off the deep bench, right.

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Speaker 4: So, and so every like once or twice a year

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Speaker 4: we got to go through this where he was like, oh,

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Speaker 4: here's the mode or he's like, this is their best

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Speaker 4: And so the funny thing about that was that was

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Speaker 4: my best statistical playoff series.

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Speaker 2: Of my career.

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Speaker 3: I was going crazy, but you was just hooping.

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Speaker 4: You wasn't on the bullshit, right, I'm about to get

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Speaker 4: to this, like I'm gonna put you all on my back.

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Speaker 4: Let's get to it now. We lost four too, whatever whatever,

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Speaker 4: Like I go home. But it's like, like you just

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Speaker 4: it keeps coming up, like the bitterness and it's like,

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Speaker 4: come on, man, you only got but so much time

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Speaker 4: left on earth, man, Like breathe some fresh air and

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Speaker 4: enjoy the rest of your life, like you sitting on

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Speaker 4: Twitter every day trying to get back at people, like,

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Speaker 4: and now understand the disconnect between or to disconnect with

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Speaker 4: him with Mellow because Mellow's at piece too, Like Mellow's

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Speaker 4: like all right, man, oh that my business dog?

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Speaker 3: Like what we doing?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it was some weird shit between the number fifteen

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Speaker 5: Mellow and a number or Joker win a number and

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 5: Two things can be true. Mellow could have been great

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Speaker 3: Now it was the first time.

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Speaker 4: It was the first time where basketball fans thought light

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Speaker 4: Miche mj and Jordan brand is leasing Jordan's shoes not

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Speaker 4: like let's let's let's not your better feelings because you

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Speaker 2: I mean, I was fucking with them boys. It was

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