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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's you are live on a football Friday

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Speaker 2: edition to Cleveland Browns Daily. I am merely Bo. He

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Speaker 2: is the great z.

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Speaker 3: How you living, buddy, I'm good, I'm good.

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Speaker 2: I'm good.

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Speaker 3: I think that this Brown seam is in a good spot.

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Speaker 3: I think that some positive news obviously with our quarterback

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Speaker 3: able to to after his biggest work you know on Thursday,

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Speaker 3: that come back today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, stack it. I thought he looked good today. So

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Speaker 2: you got a first hand viewing of I did of it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: tell the people I think I thought. I thought he

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Speaker 2: looked good. I thought he with ten to nineteen I

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Speaker 2: was the young throws of nineteen to twenty five to

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Speaker 2: thirty five. He was able to throw the footway. Where

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Speaker 2: did you see a throw over forty? I cann you

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Speaker 3: That, but I can tell you that I felt like

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Speaker 3: he made he made throws that were indicative of everything

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Speaker 3: he would need to do in a game. So I

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Speaker 3: think I thought it was I thought it looked good,

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Speaker 3: definitely a little more comfortable today, had a sleeve on

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Speaker 3: that right arm, but looking more comfortable letting it rip,

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Speaker 3: and I was very encouraged by it. I think that

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Speaker 3: as long as things continue to go in the direction

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Speaker 3: they are, I would expect that Sean Watson will be

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Speaker 3: able to play for the Browns. And I'm sure we'll

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Speaker 3: find out. That'll be a game time decision. But I

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Speaker 3: think as good as it could be today, and barring

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Speaker 3: a change from that, I think we're in a good spot.

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Speaker 2: So it feels like it's a ramp up. The thing

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Speaker 2: is what we're doing, so a little bit each day.

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Speaker 2: Didn't practice Wednesday, practice yesterday. Now more of a real

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Speaker 2: practice experience today, I would imagine, and again not a

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Speaker 2: doctor in order to have ever played one on television,

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Speaker 2: I would imagine that provided there isn't discomfort tonight coming

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Speaker 2: than you're green light, I mean, I would think that's where.

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Speaker 3: Tomorrow is just typically tomorrow's a mock game, so it's

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Speaker 3: just a walk through. Yet like not when actually.

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Speaker 2: Long in it, so no, there's no discomfort tonight. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you should be mild just as long as you know.

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Speaker 3: May there might be some soreness just because you're doing

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Speaker 3: something that your muscles have not done in a while.

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Speaker 3: But I thought very encouraging and I would expect I

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Speaker 3: would expect as of now. You know, Greg Newsom I

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Speaker 3: think is good to go. Harrison Brian thinks good to go.

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Speaker 3: Uh and Kareem Hunt will we'll see with him and

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Speaker 3: de Shaun Watson.

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Speaker 2: But I feel good about our spot right now.

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Speaker 3: I feel very good about the health of this football

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Speaker 3: team going into what's a very important game. I just

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Speaker 3: got a chance to talk with Wan Thornhill, and you know,

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Speaker 3: he's like, it's great that we won that one, but

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Speaker 3: I keep telling these guys like we have got you

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Speaker 3: can't take any team lightly.

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Speaker 2: We've got to go win.

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Speaker 3: When he was a member of the Chiefs last year,

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Speaker 3: they went into Indianapolis early in the season and lost

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Speaker 3: a game then, and he said, we were not we

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Speaker 3: didn't take them serious, weren't prepared, and so making sure

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Speaker 3: we do not make that mistake. And it's a quality

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Speaker 3: football team. We got to go out there and take

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Speaker 3: care of business against them.

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Speaker 2: So I like that.

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Speaker 3: I like what he's brought to this team. I think

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Speaker 3: we've got a lot of guys now who have been

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Speaker 3: on teams of consequence that are not going to take

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Speaker 3: you know, the fact that the Browns wrap is this win.

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Speaker 2: It lose it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's week one win, week two lost, week three win,

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Speaker 3: week four loss, by week six win. We've got to

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Speaker 3: break that cycle. You've got to break on through. And

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Speaker 3: as I we've talked about three and thirteen following win

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Speaker 3: great that it's looking like you're gonna have your your

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Speaker 2: Other than the season ending stuff that you know you're

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Speaker 3: Yes, we are in where it feels like that as well.

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Speaker 3: I mean it sounds like, you know, with Nocioni Taki

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Speaker 2: He's playing.

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Speaker 3: He had happened in practice because he wasn't report. He

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Speaker 3: Anthony Walker Junior is back, which is good news. So

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Speaker 3: you know, Tony Fields probably or Matthew Adams will get

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Speaker 3: when we go base against them. But my guess is

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Speaker 3: we're just going to continue to see you know, Rodney

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Speaker 2: Defense for the Colts. The fact that Brayden Smith is

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Speaker 2: out what Penn State jacket walking around the building.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think she.

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure she either went there or or worked

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Speaker 2: for them prior. Fine, I didn't expect that on a

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Speaker 4: Yeah, she she she went there. I don't know if

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Speaker 4: I'm assuming she worked.

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Speaker 2: There and she was something she's been in that prime.

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Speaker 4: That might also be taking one of our other friends,

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Speaker 4: big luminary assistant who's going to not root for the buck.

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Speaker 5: Eyes luminary assistant an assistant to the luminaries, An assistant

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Speaker 5: to the luminary that is not. That is like when

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Speaker 5: I said are you rooting? Like, how are you going

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Speaker 5: to do that? In that section? She goes, I'm not

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Speaker 5: from here. Okay, all right, I said, well I don't

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Speaker 5: think that's endearing. No, all right, Uh no, that's not

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Speaker 5: I said.

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Speaker 3: Work in that gum.

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Speaker 2: I love I like it. Hey, how was the Coaching

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Speaker 2: Show last night?

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Speaker 2: Can I tell you something that's going to make you joyous?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Let me write it down.

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Speaker 3: Do I need to write down? If you mind, you

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Speaker 3: don't have to. I think once you hear it, i'll

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Speaker 3: know it's important. Well, you're important.

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Speaker 2: First of all.

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Speaker 3: Coach is great, huge audience, terrific audience at Slim and Chubbies.

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Speaker 3: Elijah Moore was great. It's packed, you can feel the energy,

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Speaker 3: feel the love. It was awesome. Uh And then today

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Speaker 3: it turns out that that remote a Slim and Chubbies

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Speaker 3: is a gift that keeps on giving because we were

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Speaker 3: approached downstairs earlier today by r J from the Dog Team,

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Speaker 3: the referee whose referring practice came up to me and

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Speaker 3: was like, I saw you at Slim and Chubby's last

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Speaker 3: night and you didn't see me, but I know who

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Speaker 3: you did see, Gibbet.

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Speaker 2: By the way, we have Gibbe cam. Let's give me closer.

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Speaker 2: You guys on height, you're pretty, you're taller. But it's close,

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Speaker 2: are you? You're taller? Right I am, But it's but

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Speaker 2: when I say we have a very similar build, oh

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Speaker 2: that distance, it's it's very it's tough. Yeah, I told

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Speaker 2: him how to front. R J is a more upright. Yes,

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Speaker 2: sure he does posture. He does have a very give

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Speaker 2: me can we get you on the Gimby cam? What's

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Speaker 2: the deal? Where give yellow? Well done?

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Speaker 3: By the way, you know what else happened today? Since

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Speaker 3: Griff isn't working the cams like look a little look

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Speaker 2: Yes, there he is, Uh, he's ready to go.

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Speaker 3: Griff had his first clam of his life today from

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Speaker 3: the clam bake. Well agreed, and it's this review. They

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Speaker 3: didn't even give it to him in a broth.

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Speaker 2: What did they want him to do? They were in

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Speaker 3: So the best part was given where he is from

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Speaker 3: in the middle of the country. Una was like, of course,

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Speaker 3: you haven't had a clam. You're not near water And

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Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, you know, because there's a lot of

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Speaker 3: clams coming out.

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Speaker 2: Of Lake Erie discussion.

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Speaker 4: No, No, he was like, I know, but we're closer

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Speaker 4: a plane ride. You know what, he's never had a shrimp.

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Speaker 4: I mean, what were we talking about here?

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Speaker 2: Like, is it clam bake season?

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Speaker 4: There was Saturday, great fame of people.

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Speaker 2: We had a blast, great many people. I think it's

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Speaker 2: just an excuse to to congregate. Yeah, you know, like it,

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Speaker 2: you know we need Yeah, I like that October Fest.

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Speaker 2: You know. I think I think maybe what would make

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Speaker 2: But I don't think it's walleyre perch season. I think

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Speaker 2: it's always that season season. I know they do it

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Speaker 2: like the Walleye Fest and all that. Oh yeah, but uh,

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Speaker 2: Port Clinton, Port Clinton, that's it.

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Speaker 3: I couldn't.

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Speaker 6: I can't.

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Speaker 2: I remember that, Like it's very much a Northeastern thing,

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Speaker 2: that clam bank. I never even until I moved here

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Speaker 2: and it was like, oh, we got to go have

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Speaker 2: just a sack of shells, and I'm like, what do

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Speaker 2: I got to do with this clam bake work? You

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Speaker 2: got to make me do. I didn't want to do

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Speaker 2: the work, You do it. And then even then it's

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Speaker 2: not worth the work. It's not like crab or if

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Speaker 2: I do the work, the end result is pretty good.

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Speaker 3: The best thing that can happen to a clam is

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Speaker 3: as follows. Number one, it ends up in a delightful

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Speaker 3: and guinean with clam sauce. Actually the three best things.

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Speaker 3: Number two it's in a wonderful New England clam chowder.

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Speaker 3: Clam chowder was pretty good, and and and then number

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Speaker 3: three would be what I would consider to be one

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Speaker 3: of the finest seafood appetizers in the world, let alone

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Speaker 3: this great city at Aquadeluca, they have one that's called Mare,

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Speaker 3: which is the sea and it is I mean, it

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Speaker 3: is a tray yay big, and it's got a full lobster,

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Speaker 3: king crab, legs, scallops, giant scampies, shrimp, muscles, clams, and

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Speaker 3: then klamari just sprinkled out throughat and it's all sitting

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Speaker 3: in all and could pass in sitting in a girl alone.

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Speaker 3: It's sitting in like Alina, clam sauce. Sauce like that

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Speaker 3: feels like white wine. That sounds very good. It is

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Speaker 3: you like clam chowder. But I know that's my one thing.

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Speaker 2: It came.

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Speaker 3: This is cause the biggest fight in the history of

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Speaker 3: my relationship with miss k It's valid.

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Speaker 2: I think she's got deep. We went, we went, it's

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Speaker 2: very creamy.

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Speaker 3: And last week he gave up a sack and six

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Speaker 2: Brown be it would look very much. Is that would

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Speaker 3: There a little marketing, so.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you could do it a little bit. Say hey,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Gibbee, you're welcome, Gibbes. I think put that on

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Speaker 2: We sell this to people in this building for five years.

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Speaker 3: There would be an incredible win. I agree, Yeah, we

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Speaker 3: Oh for sure, for sure, mister winners, we could be

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Speaker 2: Let's go.

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Speaker 3: Maybe even a no problem after we get to try

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, we had a Thursday night footwater zips

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Speaker 2: lines in Indy. Two weeks. Well, it is too easy.

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Speaker 6: Two weeks.

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Speaker 2: It reminds me of it reminds me of Leonardo DiCaprio

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Speaker 2: is Jordan Balford. I asked you not to judge me

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Speaker 2: on my winners, but rather on my losers, because there

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Speaker 2: In fact, on Thursday night's only one, only one in

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Speaker 2: You had the Jaguars and the Saints in New Orleans.

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Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence had never won there. The only other two

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Speaker 2: was in very He didn't talked about this post game

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Speaker 2: He's sick of leaving New Orleans with a loss, so

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Speaker 2: he played. He got it out this game I thought

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Speaker 2: New Orleans it was like, come on, like they put

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Speaker 3: They turned it over like eight times in their own territory.

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Speaker 3: They did everything they could to lose. The game in

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Speaker 3: New Orleans is so bad. Derek Carr is awful.

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Speaker 2: What happened? I don't know. He looks terrible and I'm

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like what route was he supposed to go out

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Speaker 7: What are we doing?

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: He can't get the ball to a lava a lave.

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Speaker 3: You know him better than I. This was the first

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Speaker 3: real Saints game I've watched Noah. Yeah, and maybe he's

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Speaker 2: It feels to me like there's not I can't. I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's quick to throw. I mean Kamara had I

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Speaker 2: Can't what is that?

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Speaker 3: By the way, Enough from the Clown says a Wednesday

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Speaker 3: Night Tape T shirt would be a gold mine. Wouldn't

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Speaker 3: We've had some good tweeting my allergic to wins?

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Speaker 7: What does that even mean?

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Speaker 3: Wins for the show? If it was a bp A

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Speaker 2: The Ibbs Boys sold, they would have sold at least

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Speaker 3: Don't count what don't count either one of the Ibbs

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Speaker 3: Was you saying that? On Gibbe Cam? I think it

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Speaker 3: can we do that?

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Speaker 2: What not?

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of enthusiasm, not a lot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll just say mushroom, mushroom.

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Speaker 4: I don't blame Griff on that one. I don't like

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Speaker 3: If you like mushroom soup, you like mushrooms.

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Speaker 2: I don't like mushrooms. I don't like mushroom pizza, mushroom.

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Speaker 7: Stop it.

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Speaker 2: I don't like mushrooms on anything except the two things

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Speaker 6: I don't like.

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Speaker 4: I don't put mushrooms on a salad. I don't put

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Speaker 4: mushrooms on a pizza. I don't like mushrooms. I don't

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Speaker 4: Mushrooms are great on a pizza. No wrong, No, you're wrong.

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Speaker 4: Per some good sausage. I'm fine with everything.

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Speaker 2: That's fine.

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying, if you were to, if you go

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Speaker 3: Think it's part of understanding. He's trying to boil it

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Speaker 2: Forget it?

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Speaker 3: This isn't real?

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Speaker 2: Op it? Yeah, don't do that. I couldn't agree more.

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Speaker 2: We live in a society. I think Jacksonville's ceiling is

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Speaker 3: slept walk through this They slept, walked through this game.

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Speaker 2: Well, they got up walk they were up what twenty

442
00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:57,960
Speaker 2: was it twenty seven to six? Yes, twenty No, twenty

443
00:19:57,960 --> 00:19:59,840
Speaker 2: four to six. It's twenty four. They were up thirty

444
00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:01,000
Speaker 2: one the six last week on them.

445
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Speaker 7: Yeah.

446
00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they were up twenty four to six and

447
00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,840
Speaker 2: then and they just at that point then they just

448
00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,520
Speaker 2: kind of stopped. Yes, you know, they could have buried

449
00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,399
Speaker 2: and they they didn't, so you know that, I don't know,

450
00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,399
Speaker 2: maybe it was they felt comfortable with that and in

451
00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:15,439
Speaker 2: the way that they went comfortable.

452
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Speaker 3: How about the fact that Trevor Lawrence and his knee

453
00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,080
Speaker 3: were the leading rusher on the team fifty nine years

454
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Speaker 3: see uh yeah. Al lacomar a twelve catches for ninety

455
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Speaker 3: one yards. Alave fifteen targets, seven catches. He dropped like

456
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Speaker 3: three of them, did he?

457
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was kind of like a I think probably

458
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Speaker 2: he's kind of like a Tyler Lockett okay guy at

459
00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,760
Speaker 2: his best, like I never yeah, yeah, I think that's

460
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Speaker 2: like he's like a very good two. Oh so you

461
00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,359
Speaker 2: don't think he's a one. No, I didn't think he

462
00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,320
Speaker 2: was like Wilson coming out Well one Lockstock. Is he

463
00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,160
Speaker 2: as good as if you were going to rank rank

464
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Speaker 2: for me coming out of Ohio State.

465
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Marvin Harrison, Garrett Wilson, Jackson Smith and Jigba, Chris.

466
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Speaker 2: Alave, Harrison, Wilson, A lave and Jigba.

467
00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,280
Speaker 3: Tell you what I would have thought. You thought Jackson

468
00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:09,080
Speaker 3: Smith and Jiggle was a world beater.

469
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Speaker 2: No, I think he's a I think he's a very

470
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Speaker 2: good too. Got it is. I don't understand why it's

471
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:15,560
Speaker 2: been slow. I don't understand.

472
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Speaker 3: We'll see IFDK Metcalf doesn't play this week, maybe it's

473
00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:18,480
Speaker 3: an opportunity to maybe.

474
00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:20,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have not been able to get him going

475
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:22,920
Speaker 2: at all. I think he's just a tick below a

476
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Speaker 2: Lave and then but I mean they're all dudes. But

477
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Speaker 2: the first two are like dudes. Yeah, like Harrison is

478
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Speaker 2: a dude.

479
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Speaker 6: Dude.

480
00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:34,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, that that type of stuff. So yeah, there you go.

481
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Speaker 2: That's a al on the call with Kirk. Hate to

482
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Speaker 2: see it.

483
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Speaker 3: I gotta tell you something I think they needed. The

484
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,320
Speaker 3: experiment needs to end. It doesn't work, I do it does.

485
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Speaker 2: One of them. I don't think it works for I

486
00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:48,680
Speaker 2: don't think it works for Herbie and I don't think

487
00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:54,639
Speaker 2: it works for Al, and there's no joy. No, he's calling,

488
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,080
Speaker 2: he's calling the he took the money, but this game

489
00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,520
Speaker 2: right here, that got at the end. But he doesn't

490
00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,680
Speaker 2: know joy from that way. He've used it as I'm

491
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 2: used to calling the Cowboys and the Niners. I'm used

492
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,119
Speaker 2: to calling the Eagles and the Dolphins. And he's calling.

493
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:12,879
Speaker 2: He's in New Orleans on a Thursday, doing Jacksonville, New Orleans.

494
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 2: He's eighty Like the checks cash. I get it, it's

495
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,080
Speaker 2: the Draper line. That's what the money's for. But this

496
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,240
Speaker 2: is the human nature of it. You can't he can't

497
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:22,240
Speaker 2: get it. He can't get over it.

498
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Speaker 3: And and I think Herbie's maybe just spread tooth in

499
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Speaker 3: And I don't think it feels to me watching the

500
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Speaker 3: broadcast that Al does not respect Herbie's takes.

501
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, that I can't speak to that, but I do.

502
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,439
Speaker 2: I can't speak to being just pulled too thin. I mean,

503
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:41,920
Speaker 2: so he flies, did you see the little Yeah he

504
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:42,640
Speaker 2: does it every week.

505
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he put up the map he's in

506
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,479
Speaker 4: like he's in four different time zones.

507
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:49,720
Speaker 2: Well it's even worse last week because he went to

508
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,879
Speaker 2: all time zone cities last year Thursday last week Thursday

509
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,640
Speaker 2: football was Kansas City, Yep. Then he flew to Eugene

510
00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,639
Speaker 2: for college game Day and then he flew didn't he

511
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 2: fly back east?

512
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 6: Have?

513
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:08,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't remember what This week he flew to

514
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,400
Speaker 2: New Orleans. Then he gets to Columbus at four am

515
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 2: last night to prep for college game day, Ohio State

516
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,879
Speaker 2: and Penn State. Then he'll do college game Day. Then

517
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 2: after the game he flies to Tallahassee to do Florida

518
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 2: State duke, and then he flies back home. So that stretch,

519
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 2: there's no way you can properly prepare for all that stuff.

520
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 3: I mean, I just know how much time I prepare

521
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,439
Speaker 3: for every one of our games, and I know our

522
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,959
Speaker 3: team as well as anybody on the planet. So one

523
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 3: of the and that's true. Every week, I have one

524
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,359
Speaker 3: team in the game that I know as well as anybody. Correct,

525
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:38,920
Speaker 3: he has to learn two new teams.

526
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 2: And we're going to learn a new league every week,

527
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 2: like the rest of his life is college football. And

528
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 2: then he's in on a college football prep you got

529
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:50,120
Speaker 2: to know sixty kids that could play. Yeah, So like no,

530
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 2: it's there's just no way, no way. He's great and

531
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,399
Speaker 2: everything is great. There's just no way that you can

532
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,639
Speaker 2: properly do it, and it's it just feels like you

533
00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,119
Speaker 2: can feel it. And Al is just he's my guy.

534
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 2: I adore love Al, but it's it's it's it's enough.

535
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Speaker 3: You think about Herbie and he was always he's with Foul, right, Yeah,

536
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 3: well he used to be with Musburger with and.

537
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 2: Then now Fowler, Now Fowler.

538
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,639
Speaker 3: The chemistry that he has with both of those guys

539
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 3: is leaps and bounds beyond like they've developed.

540
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 2: It feels like no chemistry whatsoever. Well, And I also think,

541
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:27,119
Speaker 2: like in college football, as in the booth, in college football,

542
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 2: so much of it is emotional because college football is

543
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 2: a much more emotional sport, Like there are these huge

544
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:36,160
Speaker 2: swings that happen. There's the crowd pageantry like the NFL.

545
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 2: It doesn't have that week in and week out. Some

546
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 2: places do. We're lucky enough to have it here, yea.

547
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 2: Green Bay has it, Pittsburgh has it. There's some places

548
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 2: that have that pageantry in the magic, but there's a

549
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 2: lot of places that are. It's a pro football, it's

550
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,119
Speaker 2: a business, and so it's a totally different type of

551
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 2: analysis as well. I just think you're out, you're seventy

552
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,160
Speaker 2: eight you're bel Air Country Club. Like can you imagine

553
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 2: like going, oh yeah, honey, I'm flying to New Orleans

554
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 2: this week to do what you got all the money

555
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 2: in the world, like the Big Easy's a fine town.

556
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 2: I love New Orleans, you know, I know you the

557
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 2: New Orleans.

558
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 6: I love it.

559
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,159
Speaker 2: An example of like, why would I'm not seventy eight

560
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,639
Speaker 2: at bel Air Country Club living in Brentwood, you know

561
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,120
Speaker 2: what I mean? Like I had a pretty good life.

562
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,439
Speaker 2: Why is he? I know it's for the money, but

563
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 2: it's I think it sounds that way too. A little bit.

564
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 2: He's got he's had a lot of bet They've been

565
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 2: a lot of bad games. Yeah, and last sense wasn't

566
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:24,360
Speaker 2: and he missed the call at the end. He thought

567
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 2: he stepped out of bounds and he didn't on the

568
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 2: Christian Kirk touchdown. So yeah, it's so he's my guy.

569
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Speaker 7: He's my guy.

570
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Speaker 3: I know how much you love ball. How much fun

589
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Speaker 3: are you having with these guys.

590
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Speaker 7: It's good. We're focusing on plane as fast as we can,

591
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 7: one play at a time and seeing how fast we

592
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 7: can race to the football. And that's what we're putting

593
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 7: on display right now. And we got room to even

594
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 7: get better.

595
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 3: Nobody's embodying that more than Jeremiah Whusukormo eight tackles for

596
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 3: a loss already this season that leads our team, got

597
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 3: a sack last week. What have you seen from him

598
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 3: now in his third year that's really allowing him and

599
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 3: maybe it has to do a lot with the guys upfront,

600
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 3: but allowing him to be an elite playmaker.

601
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Speaker 7: Well, the biggest thing with Jeremiah is when he sees it,

602
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 7: he'll go get it. And he's very physical and very explosive,

603
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 7: and that's starting to show. What we've emphasized and what

604
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 7: he's continuing to do a better job of is staying

605
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,400
Speaker 7: in the moment and going one play at a time.

606
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 7: What I mean by that is his notes getting aligned correctly,

607
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 7: and when he's aligned correctly, he can see where to

608
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 7: go fast and he'll get there fast. And that's been

609
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 7: our emphasis. It hasn't been perfect, but it's improving every week.

610
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 7: We need him to stay in that mindset of my

611
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,919
Speaker 7: next play is my best play and keep doing this

612
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 7: because it's starting to look pretty good.

613
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 3: Starting to look very good. And it's also been very

614
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 3: good to see a couple familiar faces back Anthony Walker,

615
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 3: Junior Sioni Taki Taki. What has been getting those two

616
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,439
Speaker 3: guys back kind of meant to this room and to

617
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 3: the product we're seeing on the field.

618
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:57,919
Speaker 7: Well, when we talk about setting the tone and the

619
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 7: pace for the defense and being the nerves. Both of

620
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 7: those two take pride in their communication and getting calls

621
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 7: done quickly. And they've done a nice job of working

622
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,399
Speaker 7: together when they're in there together or apart and with

623
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 7: our dbs to get everything thing set and moved some

624
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 7: of the rules even that we used last week against

625
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 7: the forty nine ers. They're not that easy. And both

626
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 7: of those two performed at a high level. Specifically Sioni

627
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 7: took over in that second half. That was great to see.

628
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 7: But their work ethic and how they are can't be

629
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,719
Speaker 7: any greater. I mean, they're great humans, they're great people,

630
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 7: and they care about They care about the team in

631
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 7: most cases more than themselves. That's impressive.

632
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're hoping that a Walk will be able to

633
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 3: go in his return to Indianapolis against the Colts.

634
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 2: If not, it's the only Taki Taki.

635
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Speaker 3: The fact that he got a lot of work at

636
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 3: MIKE last year, how helpful is that for what he's

637
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 3: been able to do this year and in the event

638
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 3: that he needs to do that with a walkout.

639
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 7: Oh yeah. What's been great this year is all the

640
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 7: guys have taken when we put in this scheme, when

641
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 7: Coach Schwartz got here, is we talked about we're just linebackers.

642
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 7: Were all playing every position, and not everybody's there yet

643
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 7: to where they can make all the calls, but we're

644
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 7: all working at becoming that guy. So Anthony Cioni, Matt Adams,

645
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 7: Jordan ma Mood, all these guys have taken turns at

646
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 7: Mike throughout the preseason of the season, and they're continuing

647
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 7: to get turns and we're continuing to get better. We

648
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 7: want to be able to play the same style, the

649
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 7: same relentless attacking defense, regardless of who's on the field.

650
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 7: Both that's one of the things we want to do

651
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 7: in the linebacker room, but also as a defense.

652
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 3: Now you go back to BYU put on some of

653
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 3: Sioni's tape there he was around the line of scrimmage

654
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 3: with Blitz at times could get to the quarterback. He's

655
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 3: got two sacks already this season. That's a career high

656
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 3: for matching the totally had in four years combined. So

657
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 3: what is it about this defense that's kind of allowing

658
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 3: him to be in some of those blitz looks and

659
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 3: get to the quarterback.

660
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 7: Well, one thing is when we blitz, we want to

661
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 7: bring it, and that's from Schwartz. Coach Schwarts all down

662
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,479
Speaker 7: to us. And the more we bring it, the more

663
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 7: chances we're going to get. So everybody gets a turn

664
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 7: in this defense to blitz, and when it's our turn,

665
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 7: we need to go. And we're getting better at that.

666
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 7: Jeremiah had one last week. He needs to not jump,

667
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 7: but he's such a great athlete. He got the quarterback

668
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 7: on the ground case one when he rolled off against

669
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 7: the gay, rolled off right in the b gap, wrapped

670
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 7: up that quarterback really well. Rolled did the surfing celebration,

671
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 7: which made me happy, you know, being a surfer. They

672
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 7: were teasing him that's a tribute, but it's not. But

673
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 7: that was an awesome celebration. So the more turns, the

674
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 7: faster we go, the more coach Shorts are going to

675
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 7: call our number. And that's how we want to be.

676
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 3: So he only does a surfing celebration a tribute to you, beautiful.

677
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 7: It was cool.

678
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 3: It was cool. Let's say that's a smart thing to do. Hey,

679
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 3: you know I gave a little omas to the coach.

680
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 2: I like that.

681
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 7: Well, the guys will call that that being you know,

682
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 7: TP means teacher's pet. But they all want to be

683
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 7: a TP when it's all said and done, because if

684
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 7: you know, if you're repeating and saying the same things

685
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 7: as the coach, it usually means you're playing pretty good

686
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 7: and you're doing some good stuff. So we want to

687
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 7: be in that world of knowing everything together because we're only,

688
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 7: as you know, coaches. We want the players to know

689
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 7: what we know and to be able to execute it fast,

690
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 7: like it doesn't do us any good if we know

691
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 7: something they don't.

692
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 3: So you're exactly right about that you mentioned together though

693
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 3: you and a Walk three years, you and Si only

694
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 3: three years, Joka three years. The fact that you've had

695
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 3: these guys Jordan Kanasha going on his second season now

696
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 3: Tony Fields for three years, how helpful has that been

697
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 3: to the continuity and kind of seeing these guys now

698
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 3: getting the opportunity to really kind of thrive, knowing that

699
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 3: it's been a journey you've all been on together for

700
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 3: quite some time.

701
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 7: Oh, this is how things take off in the NFL.

702
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 7: Number One, you're fortunate to be able to work with

703
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 7: the same men year in and year out, and that's

704
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 7: how you grow your relationship but also your your defense.

705
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 7: There's always going to be changed in the NFL, but

706
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 7: when you can have common ground, I mean, we had

707
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 7: some change in scheme, but that doesn't change our relationship.

708
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 7: In all of those relationships, player to player, player to

709
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 7: coach in our linebacker room have gotten stronger and stronger.

710
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 7: And that's exciting because that gives you a chance to

711
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 7: not only have success, but to sustain it, which is

712
00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 7: what we want in this business. Going one and oh

713
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 7: every week and improving every week.

714
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 3: How does this team kind of go on the road

715
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 3: here and stack a win. That's something we've struggled with

716
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 3: a little bit, is putting a win right after a win.

717
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 3: How important is that to kind of get this momentum

718
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,959
Speaker 3: going and for this defense to keep doing what it's

719
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 3: been doing, which is historic through five games.

720
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 7: There's an old phrase in the NFL. There's certain things

721
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 7: that travel when you go on the road. Okay, one

722
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 7: of them is defense. Okay. Another thing can be special

723
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 7: teams and your ball security. You pack them in your bags. Okay.

724
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 7: A great old coach, George Stewart, you used to run

725
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 7: around the locker room on Fridays, say pack your bags,

726
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 7: pack your ball, security, pack your defense, run around the

727
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 7: locker room and roll it. We gotta take that mentality.

728
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 7: We got to pack what we do because we love

729
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 7: being at home right now and playing in front of

730
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 7: our crowd. But hopefully we get a lot of people

731
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 7: there this weekend. But we got to have that mindset

732
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 7: no matter what. We got to bring our own noise,

733
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,479
Speaker 7: like my Cadams does when he brings out his spoon box, okay,

734
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 7: to practice. We got to bring that with us wherever

735
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 7: we go. That travels, but we got to make that travel.

736
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 7: That's our challenge this week.

737
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 3: I like the where's the team? Let's give that speech

738
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 3: right to the guys right now. Maybe later on.

739
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 7: Part of that is being saved right before we back up.

740
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 7: So yeah, but that's coming.

741
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 2: I love that.

742
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 3: This defense, you know, I know you spent a lot

743
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 3: of time earlier in your career, certainly Bay Area San

744
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 3: Francisco with this defense, was able to do against a

745
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 3: very physical offense, one that has been incredibly successful.

746
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:27,479
Speaker 6: Last week.

747
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 3: To me, the stat that blows my mind is they

748
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,479
Speaker 3: had twelve offensive possessions. Five of those possessions netted one

749
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 3: yard or more, four of them were negative, three of

750
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 3: them were exactly zero. Seven of their twelve possessions did

751
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 3: not gain a yard against this defense. When you think

752
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 3: about kind of some of the things you've seen, how

753
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 3: impressive was that? And did you get any feedback after

754
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 3: the game from some of year old cohorts on the

755
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 3: San Francisco side saying goodness gracious.

756
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was exciting to see a lot of people,

757
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 7: you know, having spent thirteen years in that organization, I

758
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 7: love many people there there. It's great what they've been

759
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 7: able to do by establishing consistency and just like you

760
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 7: were talking about relationships and keeping it has made that

761
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 7: place really powerful and that's cool to see, especially because

762
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 7: they're in the NFC. But here's the take here's the takeaway.

763
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 7: The takeaway is this that counts as one and you

764
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,879
Speaker 7: really have to believe that now it's pretty powerful one.

765
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 7: Like you said, reading the stats off, I know it's

766
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 7: seventy three and outs. I didn't know all those numbers.

767
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 7: That's pretty good. But really, where we want to go,

768
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 7: it's got to travel. I just said it. It's got

769
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,320
Speaker 7: to travel. It's got to be every week We shouldn't

770
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,479
Speaker 7: need a pregame fight to get ourselves ready to play.

771
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 7: We shouldn't need anything like that. All we need is

772
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,280
Speaker 7: ourselves and our mindset. And so that's what those numbers

773
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,240
Speaker 7: tell me is, let's go get this one.

774
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:44,919
Speaker 3: Let's go get this one. This is a cult team

775
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 3: that can run the football's ACMs right now, second in

776
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 3: the league. And oh yeah, they also have Jonathan Taylor

777
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 3: who's been working his way back, who back in twenty

778
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 3: twenty one led the league in rushing over eighteen hundred yards,

779
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 3: was the first team All Pro. This is going to

780
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 3: be again another physical one in terms of because you've

781
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 3: got to stop the run and put the ball in

782
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 3: the hands their quarterback where we can unleash that pressure.

783
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 3: How important is the is that in this game? And

784
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 3: the linebackers of course doing that at the second level.

785
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that's the whole key to the game.

786
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,919
Speaker 7: If you look at last week, our biggest improvement area

787
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 7: is the first drive, and that team came out and

788
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 7: went run, run, run, run screen. Okay, so it may

789
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 7: be very similar with a big, physical line in two

790
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 7: backs that can all that can play so quick throws,

791
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 7: run screens. We got to run to the ball, and

792
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 7: we've got to tackle and we've got to get people

793
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 7: on the ground with as many of us as we

794
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 7: can get to the ball. And that's going to be

795
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 7: the start of the game. But that can't stop at

796
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 7: the start of the game. That's going to be all

797
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 7: the time to get this one. They're going to be

798
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,800
Speaker 7: smart with how they do that, you know, because they're

799
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 7: they're good at doing that anyway. So we've got to

800
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 7: have our mindset to that's how it could very well be.

801
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 7: Run run, screen, run, run. Well, you know what, let's go.

802
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 7: We got to run the ball. We gotta get that

803
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 7: ball on the ground, regardless who has it.

804
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 3: One of the things they talked about coming out of

805
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 3: that Niners game, right eighty seven man or something in

806
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,800
Speaker 3: the astronomical like that, and everybody focuses on the corners

807
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 3: and the safeties, and justifiably so, but the linebackers are

808
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 3: also in man and you had to deal with Christian

809
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 3: McCaffrey for the majority of that game. Kittle, first team

810
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 3: All Pro held the one catch for one yard. What

811
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 3: did you see from your guys in coverage, because we

812
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 3: know so far they've played the run very well. We've

813
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 3: seen them knife and in we're seeing them getting the quarterback.

814
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 3: But the coverage part of it's not talked about a lot,

815
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 3: and that's probably a good thing, right. It's kind of

816
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 3: like when an offensive lineman is not messing up, you

817
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 3: don't hear his name. If a linebacker's not getting talked

818
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 3: about in coverage, they're probably covering pretty darn well.

819
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 7: Well. I think some of our main improvement areas as

820
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 7: linebackers is, and it has happened through the first five games,

821
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,439
Speaker 7: is some of the critical situations being in coverage. There's

822
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 7: a couple of times where we didn't win, but what

823
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 7: was good is that we learned from that. So we

824
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 7: got to make sure because this team actually is one

825
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,959
Speaker 7: of the teams that really throws linebacker, especially on money

826
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 7: downs and third and fourth downs, really throws the running

827
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 7: backs and tight end. So we've got to make sure

828
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 7: we take them out and use our rules and cover people.

829
00:36:58,280 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 7: One of the things that win in that game, like

830
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 7: you said, it was unnoticed. There's the play where Jeremiah

831
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 7: caused the penalty caused intentional grounding. SIONI covered at number

832
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 7: eighty five and did it really well. So we all

833
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 7: had turns in that game Anthony Walker had a bunch

834
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 7: of coverages on both backs, and so as you go

835
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 7: back through that game, we knew that game was gonna be.

836
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 7: It didn't matter. We were just gonna have safeties and

837
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 7: linebackers matched up on all their skill guys, and it

838
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 7: didn't matter. And it all happened, and we all took

839
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 7: our turns. And what was cool is that's how Russian

840
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 7: coverage works together. Sometimes it might not have been perfect coverage,

841
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 7: but somebody hit the quarterback. Sometimes it was perfect coverage,

842
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 7: and it could by the d line time he hit

843
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 7: the quarterback. We got to keep that stuff up. That's

844
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 7: how defense works. It's not the quarterback picks who sacks him.

845
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,919
Speaker 7: Everybody writes want to write down sack numbers. Of course

846
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 7: Miles wins a lot, but the quarterback picks that because

847
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 7: he moves or he doesn't move or whatever. The quarterback

848
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 7: picks who sacks him. It's not the individual stat It

849
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,760
Speaker 7: is the entire defense causing havoc and making that happen.

850
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 7: And as long as we remember that as a defense

851
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 7: and continue to do that, continue to be unselfish, we

852
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 7: got a chance to do. We go what we want

853
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 7: to go, which is practicing on the road. Go want

854
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 7: to know, but we got to be like that. It's

855
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:09,720
Speaker 7: not about our numbers.

856
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 3: I know.

857
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 7: She and he's got too wonderful. I hope he gets twelve,

858
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,280
Speaker 7: all right, but it's not as long as the team

859
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 7: gets the offense off the field. For like you said,

860
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 7: seven out of twelve, zero yards, that's what matters.

861
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 3: No doubt, and that led to win. Coach, I'm fired up.

862
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,439
Speaker 3: You're fired up already, appreciate the time as always. Let's

863
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 3: pack it up, let's go to Indianapolis. Let's got a

864
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 3: big win.

865
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 7: Great talking to is always all right.

866
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 3: That's a great friend of the program. The one and

867
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 3: only coach Jason Tarbor, linebacker coach for Cleveland Browns.

868
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 2: Guy's the best. I love him, Love that guy. I

869
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 2: couldn't love him anymore. The best.

870
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 3: We did the whole interview standing up, He's like, let's

871
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 3: stand for this interview. Then he's given a pregame speech.

872
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 3: Basically in the middle of the interview. I was getting

873
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Speaker 3: fired up. I love that guy. Think it's awesome. He

874
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 3: loves football so much. He has coached these guys in

875
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 3: that linebacker room so well. He is so detailed in

876
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 3: his preparation. Emotionally, he gets behind him. He is. He's

877
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 3: an awesome, awesome guy. I am the real I love

878
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Speaker 3: that he's in an organization.

879
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Speaker 2: you boys, you did well for yourselves. Fellas four and

894
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Speaker 2: one straw four and one across the board. Uh gibb

895
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 2: is now thirteen and seven and you are.

896
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 4: Twelve and eight maintains this one point lea give me

897
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 4: did I get sex interceptions and fumbles.

898
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 2: With you, We're nailing it. Wow. Pedro for the record

899
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,839
Speaker 2: went three and two. Hate to see it.

900
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 3: I hate to see it.

901
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 2: Get to see it, all right, I.

902
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 3: Don't hate to see it.

903
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 2: We are going to work under the impression, DeShawn said

904
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson is point. Yeah, I like it over or under.

905
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,399
Speaker 2: Let's start with who went first last time?

906
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 3: Give it as you go first.

907
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 2: I think you went. I think you went first. Start

908
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 2: with Segura over under total yardage accounted for Deshaun Watson

909
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,800
Speaker 2: two sixty nine point five doct.

910
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: Z over under.

911
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,879
Speaker 3: Over never thrown for a fewer than three hundred yards.

912
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 3: Lucus Hoyles is the number twenty six defense in the

913
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 3: league that I got rookie corners absolutely over over Get it.

914
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 2: This is throwing in running, throwing in running. You're getting

915
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 2: both both categories. How many times has he gone over

916
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 2: that this year? He did it against Tennessee for sure.

917
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 3: Definte Tessie, maybe Pittsburgh as well.

918
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 4: I I'm gonna say, under right, give a gross I

919
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 4: have a little belief, would you. Well no, no, no, I

920
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 4: mean like we have other things. We have other toys. Yeah,

921
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:32,320
Speaker 4: and if it's A.

922
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 2: If it's a boat racing, then he might not need

923
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 2: to give me correct over under. We're looking for total

924
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 2: yardage accounted for, and this one's for you. Give Jerome Ford,

925
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 2: Kareem Hunt over or under along with Elijah Moore, Moss

926
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 2: and Taylor, So you're gonna get three for two. You

927
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 2: get more Hunt and Ford versus Taylor and Moss over

928
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 2: Runner given three for two.

929
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 3: Right now, they're at for three fifty three, so they're

930
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 3: averaging about one hundred and seventy five one hundred and

931
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,439
Speaker 3: seventy six point five the last two weeks. Those two come.

932
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 2: Those two cats. Yep, yep, you're getting three.

933
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 6: Yep.

934
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:25,959
Speaker 2: Cream.

935
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 3: Hunt is officially list as questionable. In the event that

936
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 3: he is unable.

937
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 2: To go and get the pre strong here strong, you

938
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 2: would get him instead.

939
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:33,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to go under.

940
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:34,800
Speaker 2: It's under.

941
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 6: Give it.

942
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 3: If Zach Lass and Taylor are combining for big yards now,

943
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,359
Speaker 3: especially if they're running, that would be problematic for us.

944
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 2: I'm going to go over. We have the number one

945
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:44,760
Speaker 2: total defense in the league.

946
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 7: A right, very good.

947
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 2: I think we could have a separation. We could have

948
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:52,479
Speaker 2: a separation week next over. He's wanting us to lose

949
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 2: is what it sounds like.

950
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,919
Speaker 4: Oh, I just don't I don't know if I see

951
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 4: this being a shootout here. If you're working your quarterback

952
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 4: back into game shape.

953
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 3: Amari Cooper, you get both of our running backs against

954
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 3: their running backs, give.

955
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 2: Up and you get Elijah and Elijah all right. Targets

956
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 2: total targets Amari Cooper zagura eight point five targets. Don't

957
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 2: you research? What would you look at your research targets?

958
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 2: Amari Cooper eight point five.

959
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 3: He's a just under that. He's just under. He's I

960
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 3: think he's a thirty seven targets for the thirty nine

961
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 3: thirty nine targets for the season, so he's just under eight.

962
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 3: So it's obviously it's a good number. He was right

963
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,760
Speaker 3: at eight last week, four catches eight yard, he said.

964
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 2: Two over eight, one at eight and two under. So

965
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 2: sixty percent of the time this would be under sixty

966
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 2: percent of the time. It works every time. Yeah, I'm

967
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 2: gonna go I'm gonna go under.

968
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be We're gonna spread the ball

969
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 3: around to a lot of people.

970
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,919
Speaker 2: Get up, Well, this is separation week. I'm going over.

971
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 3: Oh baby, Mari Cooper, it's more than eight targets any

972
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 3: the quarterbacks not throwing for two six come on, give me.

973
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 2: That over thunder Sachs, interceptions and fumbles. These guys are brutal.

974
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 2: At this min she's gonna throw you the ball. That's

975
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 2: a big number. The question is how big did your

976
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 2: uncle bo go? Oh? Rock Rock, the great rock.

977
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:21,439
Speaker 6: Great rock.

978
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 2: Don't see hers? You used to see her all the time.

979
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 3: Not as much.

980
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 2: She's we left for COVID and then that was it.

981
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 3: Well, she's moved up.

982
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 2: She's different, different roles. Four and a half. Give it over.

983
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 4: I'm not even guessing that this is feast Sunday for

984
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 4: an early Thanksgiving for this.

985
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 2: I just wanted you ask feast.

986
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,320
Speaker 3: But you're saying the ringbacks are gonna go bonkers, no

987
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 3: question his thinking over.

988
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,399
Speaker 2: I don't do any research. I just go with it.

989
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 2: So far it seems to be worth about research.

990
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 3: It's more just about like it's more about like complimentary storylines.

991
00:44:58,320 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 7: And yet the.

992
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,800
Speaker 2: Head he's never won, he's never won one. The season

993
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 2: the biggest what was it was it last year where

994
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:05,399
Speaker 2: you led the whole?

995
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 5: No?

996
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 2: No, no, it was two years ago. It was last year,

997
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 2: and I think you were it wasn't the whole way,

998
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 2: but he was way up for all.

999
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:12,879
Speaker 3: There was one where all he had to do two

1000
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 3: years ago I smoked him two years I was like

1001
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,839
Speaker 3: on a mile, I was like, yeah, five And there

1002
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 3: was one where all he had to do is basically

1003
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 3: just do the same as you and he would have won.

1004
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he could do it, and he couldn't do

1005
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,800
Speaker 2: it because no, I can't help myself. You can't help it.

1006
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 2: All right, ladies and gentlemen. Finally the fact, what did

1007
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 2: he did?

1008
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:29,879
Speaker 6: You go over?

1009
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 2: He went over?

1010
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 6: Yeah? Okay?

1011
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 2: Finally the actual forty and a half, forty and a

1012
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 2: half to doctor z over under all right, over and

1013
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 2: under on that one forty and a half means they're

1014
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:50,760
Speaker 2: gonna have to score a lot.

1015
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 3: They score twenty in every game.

1016
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, more than one defense we are. It's a big number.

1017
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 2: I'm surprised. I thought it would be more like thirty six.

1018
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 2: I feel like we can We're gonna they're a bad defense.

1019
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 2: So I feel like they are clearly thinking that that

1020
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 2: we're going to get to in the thirties. Twenty eight

1021
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 2: to fourteen, Yeah, that does it.

1022
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:08,359
Speaker 3: Or we could be thirty one.

1023
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean last we think thirty type of a

1024
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 2: situation tis fine.

1025
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 6: Thirty eight.

1026
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, last week was what thirty seven to twenty fifty

1027
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 3: seven points in there.

1028
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 2: It's weird they're three and three, right, Yeah, they've had

1029
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 2: a very odd start to the season.

1030
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 3: Yes, all right, there you go.

1031
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:29,000
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1036
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Speaker 2: ESPN NFL Nation Cults reporter Stephen Holder joining us on

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00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 2: the Twisted TA Hotline. Stephen, thank you so much for

1049
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,320
Speaker 2: taking the time. Before we get into the specifics of

1050
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 2: this game, I'm just curious, because Nathan and I have

1051
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 2: talked about this a lot on the show. From your

1052
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,720
Speaker 2: vantage point, what were the what were the Colts thinking

1053
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 2: with the Jonathan Taylor situation and the way that that

1054
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 2: all played out.

1055
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, that was a very interesting, like six years of

1056
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 8: my life to cover that. So I really think it

1057
00:47:56,320 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 8: was an interesting decision by the team to back in

1058
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 8: the spring when Jonvian Taylor came to them looking for

1059
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 8: an extension, they said that they had made a determination

1060
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 8: that now was not the time to do any extensions

1061
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 8: of current players because they were coming off a tough season.

1062
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 8: They kind of wanted to reset things. I understand that

1063
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 8: to some extent. I think where they maybe if there

1064
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 8: was a miscalculation, I think it was maybe in not

1065
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 8: saying well, let's talk about it, as opposed to saying

1066
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 8: no outright, and I think that is kind of what

1067
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 8: drew the ire of Jonathan Taylor who thought about it,

1068
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 8: like in terms of, well, I played hurt for a

1069
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 8: really bad team last year, you fired the coach midseason,

1070
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,879
Speaker 8: and so the you know, the thanks that I get

1071
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 8: is now you're saying you won't even entertain the contract extension.

1072
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 6: So I think it's a situation where no one was wrong,

1073
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 6: you know.

1074
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 8: I mean, he's not entitled to the contract extension, not necessarily,

1075
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 8: and at the same time, he's certainly not wrong for

1076
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:00,800
Speaker 8: asking for one a year after he leaves the NFL

1077
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:05,320
Speaker 8: and rushing. So you had this situation where both sides

1078
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 8: had a very reasonable position and neither was really wrong,

1079
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 8: and neither really relented.

1080
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 6: So I think it took.

1081
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 8: The Colts to kind of take a step back and say,

1082
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 8: all right, how do we fix this? And ultimately it

1083
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 8: needed to get fixed because at the time Anthony Richardson

1084
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 8: was still healthy, they got off to a good start.

1085
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 8: I mean, there's still three and three, So they looked

1086
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 8: at it like, well, we have an opportunity to maybe

1087
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 8: make an interesting season here, and Jonathan Taylor was going

1088
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 8: to be a part of that. So we'll see what

1089
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 8: happens down the road. But really it was just a

1090
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 8: matter of let's go out there and compete, and we

1091
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 8: need Jonathan Taylor to be a part of that. I

1092
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 8: think he just meant more to them than maybe other

1093
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 8: teams ultimately. And so maybe for some teams, and you

1094
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 8: guys have seen this with with Nick Chubb, maybe for

1095
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 8: some teams the big running back contract doesn't make a

1096
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 8: lot of sense. I think the Colts, their identity has

1097
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:00,959
Speaker 8: been one of a power running team, a run first

1098
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 8: team to some extent the last few years. For them,

1099
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 8: it did make sense, and I think that's the reason

1100
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:08,439
Speaker 8: you saw the outcome that you saw.

1101
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 3: Were you surprised at the fact that this contract came

1102
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 3: after Zach Moss? I thought provided them with plenty of

1103
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 3: ammunition to say and to have leverage in what the

1104
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 3: contract number would ultimately be. Gu I currently second in

1105
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 3: the league in rushing, and since Taylor's come back, you know,

1106
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 3: Moss tw hundred fifty four total yards and three touchdowns.

1107
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 3: Were you surprised that with Zach Moss playing so well,

1108
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 3: Taylor still was able to get fourteen million a year.

1109
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:40,760
Speaker 8: Well, I certainly didn't think that that Zach Moss's performance

1110
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 8: would help. Right's obvious, and I don't know that it

1111
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 8: helps things necessarily, but I do think ultimately Zach Moss,

1112
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:55,399
Speaker 8: although he has had some big plays, that's never really

1113
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 8: been his calling card and I really still don't think

1114
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:01,280
Speaker 8: it is. And I think for Athan Taylor, what sets

1115
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 8: him apart is he has explosiveness that I don't think

1116
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 8: very many, if any running backs have in the NFL.

1117
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 8: He's in terms of big plays since he entered the league,

1118
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 8: I believe only three guys have more big plays than

1119
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 8: Jonathan Taylor, Nick Chubb being one of those, and so

1120
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 8: he's in rare ear. You know, when it comes to

1121
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 8: the kinds of plays that can win you games. You know,

1122
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 8: we talk about wide receivers and the passing game being

1123
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 8: explosive and how that can win games in today's NFL,

1124
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 8: that is, of course very true. But you can also

1125
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 8: produce big plays in the running game. And there's a

1126
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 8: handful of guys who have the ability to do that

1127
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 8: pretty consistently, and Jonathan Taylor is one of them. So

1128
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:46,839
Speaker 8: I think that was a big part of it and

1129
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 8: what sets him apart. Even though Zach Moss has gotten

1130
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 8: off to a great start and has played the best

1131
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 8: football of his career.

1132
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 3: Is this the week that we see Jonathan Taylor be

1133
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 3: the bell cow again, or do you think that this

1134
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,919
Speaker 3: is a committee going going forward? How do you see

1135
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 3: this kind of all shaking out?

1136
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 8: Well, it's I think it's a committee until we see differently. However,

1137
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 8: from week one to two for Jonathan Taylor, the usage

1138
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 8: did go up pretty substantially, and and last week was

1139
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 8: really not the game to even measure it by, because

1140
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 8: they got down three scores in Jacksonville, and then you

1141
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,240
Speaker 8: know what kind of game it's going to be Gardner

1142
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 8: Minshew throwing I think fifty five times. That ain't the blueprint. Okay,

1143
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 8: so let me be clear. So that was not the

1144
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 8: game plan. It's not the game plan this week. I

1145
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 8: can pretty confidently say that. And so anyway, Zach Moss

1146
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 8: and Johnathan Taylor had the exact same number of touches

1147
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 8: last week, thirteen apiece that includes rushes and receptions. So

1148
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 8: I think them kind of moving and moving in that direction,

1149
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 8: where the previous week it was not very close, you know,

1150
00:52:55,760 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 8: Jonathan Taylor versus Zach Moss. Moss had a far had

1151
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 8: a much higher number of touches the previous week than Taylor.

1152
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 8: The second week had even.

1153
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 6: Out a lot more. It was exactly even so I.

1154
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 8: Think we're moving in that direction and as long as

1155
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 8: Taylor proves that he's worthy of it, and I think

1156
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 8: it'll continue to go that way. I'm curious to see

1157
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 8: if they get him or continue to get him involved

1158
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 8: in the passing game. His two biggest plays to date

1159
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 8: for Jonathan Taylor have been in the passing game so far.

1160
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 8: So that's an interesting little nugget.

1161
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 2: Stephen, before we get into the game this week. Curious

1162
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 2: the Anthony Richardson situation, how that played out. Kid who

1163
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 2: was obviously banged up a lot at Florida and in

1164
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 2: the way that the injuries happened in the decision to

1165
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 2: shut him down, What all went into that. Were there

1166
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 2: any other choices or is that just kind of where

1167
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 2: they were? And then obviously a huge bummer for Colts fans.

1168
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:50,800
Speaker 6: It is a bummer.

1169
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 8: You know, this team has been in a no man's

1170
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 8: land at quarterback for years and I've been here and

1171
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 8: documented all of it, and it's taken lives off It's

1172
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 8: taken years off people's lives. Okay, let me tell you.

1173
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 8: It's been a long time. So anyhow, I think what

1174
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 8: Anthony Richardson represented and still does represent is is released

1175
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:18,399
Speaker 8: and you know the end to that period of time.

1176
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 8: I mean Andrew luck walked out the door in August

1177
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 8: twenty nineteen, you know what I mean, Like, that's a

1178
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 8: long time ago in football terms, that's like a generation.

1179
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 8: So you know, this has been It's taken a toll

1180
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 8: on people, fans, the team, everyone, and so Anthony Richardson

1181
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 8: was finally the hope and the solution of that. They

1182
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 8: still think he is, and let me tell you, they

1183
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 8: are all in on Anthony Richardson. That has not changed

1184
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 8: one bit. But to have it postponed and to see

1185
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 8: the realization of that to come to fruition, have that

1186
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 8: postponed really has been hard on everybody involved, in particular

1187
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 8: Anthony Richardson, who has really taken this hard because he

1188
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 8: knows what he means to the franchise. So anyhow, I

1189
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 8: really think it was a situation where I don't think

1190
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 8: this was much of a choice per se. You know,

1191
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 8: if Anthony Richardson were not a quarterback, maybe there's a

1192
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 8: different decision here. Maybe, But ultimately this is what they

1193
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 8: had to do. The goal was very much about making

1194
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 8: this decision based on his future and the future of

1195
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 8: the franchise and not about making the decision based on

1196
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 8: any variables about twenty twenty three that would have been

1197
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 8: absolutely shortsighted. And to some extent, it's kind of what

1198
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 8: happened when Andrew Luck had his shoulder issues. You know,

1199
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:42,839
Speaker 8: beginning back in twenty fifteen, Andrew Luck wanted to get

1200
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 8: back on the field as soon as possible, partially tears

1201
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 8: of labram. Three weeks later, he's back on the field,

1202
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,800
Speaker 8: and I just wonder to this day was that the

1203
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 8: right decision and did that play into the future issues

1204
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 8: that he did have so anyhow, and he eventually had

1205
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 8: to have the surgery anyway, So that's that's not going

1206
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:03,360
Speaker 8: to happen here. They feel like they're going to be

1207
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 8: able to get this right from the jump.

1208
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 3: And that means that is Gardner Minshew's team. Minshew just

1209
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:11,800
Speaker 3: three and eleven in his last fourteen, coming off a

1210
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 3: career high three picks you mentioned fifty five attimpts. That's

1211
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 3: not the way they want to go. It feels like

1212
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 3: from watching him, he's trying to get the ball out quick.

1213
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 3: He's most comfortable kind of throwing those quick short sticks

1214
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:25,320
Speaker 3: in the middle of the field. And is that part

1215
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 3: because they got Blake Freeland starting and their tackles have

1216
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 3: been that's tough. And guess what the Browns and Miles

1217
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 3: Garrett's and Darius Smith and Obo Kuranquo coming to town.

1218
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 3: Do you expect to see more of that kind of

1219
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:37,840
Speaker 3: quick game from Minshew?

1220
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:43,320
Speaker 8: I sure hope so, because otherwise I'm afraid for Gardner

1221
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 8: Minshew because I just saw the clipp this morning of

1222
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 8: what Miles did to Trent Williams last week on that

1223
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 8: one particular play where he basically threw Trent Williams, which.

1224
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 6: They didn't know what's possible, and so yeah.

1225
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:00,399
Speaker 8: They got to do what they gotta do. But that's

1226
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:03,840
Speaker 8: steps Gardner Minshew's game anyway. You know, he is not

1227
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 8: a guy who you want, you know, sitting in the

1228
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:10,239
Speaker 8: pocket and patting the ball. You want him to read

1229
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 8: it and get it out. And and that has to

1230
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:14,720
Speaker 8: be what he does more than ever in this game.

1231
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 6: There's no doubt about it.

1232
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 8: And and really it's it's the only route to success

1233
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 8: for him, because that's what he is. Uh, if you

1234
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 8: if you ask him to seven step drop, now you're

1235
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 8: asking him to do something that's not within his wheelhouse.

1236
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 8: And you're also obviously putting your tackles in a in

1237
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 8: a bad spot. So I don't anticipate that they do

1238
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 8: anything beyond three step drop and get it out, you know,

1239
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 8: with some few exceptions obviously, when there are those times

1240
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 8: and you have to kind of put the ball in

1241
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 8: play and get it down the field. But generally, I

1242
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 8: think this is gonna be a quick game all day

1243
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 8: for the Colts, and and and also they're going to

1244
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 8: have to try to run it and establish something there

1245
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 8: so they at least can at least give the the

1246
00:57:57,640 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 8: or at least kick the defense honest, you know, so

1247
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 8: this is not a one sided situation. They got to

1248
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 8: do that too, So we'll see what happens. But but

1249
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 8: Gardner Minshew is a smart quarterback. Even if he is

1250
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 8: physically limited, he is smart and he does understand defenses,

1251
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 8: and that's what's kept them in the league. So he's

1252
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 8: gonna have to lean into what he does well in

1253
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 8: this game and hopefully that gives him some some opportunity

1254
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 8: to do something.

1255
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 2: The roadmap for Indy on Sunday will be what, in

1256
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 2: your estimation, both sides of the ball, what if it

1257
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 2: goes their way, if they're able to their slight dogs

1258
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 2: I think it's three something like that. If they're able

1259
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 2: to spring what would be a little bit of a

1260
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 2: Vegas upset out there. How do they do it?

1261
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, they've got to play. Obviously, their defense has to

1262
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 8: be key.

1263
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 6: They are very good against the run.

1264
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 8: And so they've got to get you in you know,

1265
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 8: long down and distance and then give their their secondary,

1266
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 8: which is a little bit you know, can be a

1267
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 8: little bit overmatched at times. At corner they're they're kind

1268
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 8: of young there.

1269
00:58:56,920 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 6: I like the safeties, but that corner they have some disadvantage.

1270
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 8: So what they've got to do is is getting them

1271
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 8: in long third downs and let those guys get off

1272
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 8: the field. And then on offense, you've got to play

1273
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 8: basically an ugly game and kind of play the game

1274
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 8: that they played in Week three in Baltimore, which was

1275
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 8: basically a field goal game and they wanted with five

1276
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 8: field goals and four of them over fifty yards. But

1277
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 8: Matt Gay can boot it, so they feel good as

1278
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 8: they play that kind of game, they can ugly it

1279
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 8: up and win it with a kicking contest. Basically, I

1280
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 8: that's the game plan here. Maybe not the plan, but

1281
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 8: I think that's how I see it playing out if

1282
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 8: the Colts come out with a victory.

1283
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 3: You mentioned that secondary. Can you kind of just walk

1284
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 3: us through how did we get to the point that

1285
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 3: they got two rookies starting and if they are still

1286
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 3: starting Juju Brents and Jalen Jones at corner.

1287
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 8: Yeah, so, first of all, you go back to the

1288
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 8: offseason trade Stefan Gilmore to Dallas, a veteran who you

1289
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 8: know wasn't really up for a rebuild and wanted out.

1290
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 8: So I get that. You also had a suspension Isaiah

1291
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 8: Rodgers got caught up in the gambling issues that have

1292
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:07,479
Speaker 8: been kind of going around in the league. He gets

1293
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 8: suspended for the year. He's at least a young veteran

1294
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 8: who had played some So anyway, that leads you in

1295
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:16,120
Speaker 8: a tough spot. I mean, there they're nickel corner. Kenny

1296
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 8: Moore is a really solid player, been to a Pro Bowl,

1297
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 8: but he's a very unique kind of player. He's not

1298
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 8: not generally an outside corner. And really injuries also contributed

1299
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:30,919
Speaker 8: Dallas Flowers at least with a guy they were high

1300
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 8: on a young veteran. They were high on an achilles

1301
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 8: tear a couple of weeks ago. So it has been

1302
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Speaker 8: just really a lot of attrition for different reasons, and

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Speaker 8: so that's where they are now now. Juju Brents, I

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01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 8: think has a ton of upside, but he's gonna win

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Speaker 8: some and lose them, and so it's been it's been

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Speaker 8: make a play, give up a play with Juju Brents

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Speaker 8: right now. But he definitely is a guy who's gonna

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Speaker 8: come up and tackle and and really hit the snot

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Speaker 8: out of a running back. He's not he's fair in

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Speaker 8: that regard, and he's definitely a guy who's aggressive on

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Speaker 8: the football. So he can make a play if you

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Speaker 8: give him the opportunity. But he also is a guy

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Speaker 8: who's going to get some plays.

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Speaker 6: Up right now.

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Speaker 8: So there, that just is what it is right now.

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Speaker 8: And I think the problem the Colts have is their

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01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 8: edge rush is I don't think nearly consistent enough right

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Speaker 8: now to really when you pair that with the young cornerbacks,

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01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 8: I think that's a tough combination right now for the Colts.

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Speaker 2: Steven, great stuff, man, Thank you so much for your time.

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Speaker 2: Greatly appreciate it.

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Speaker 6: Hey you got it any guy.

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Speaker 2: That's Stephen Holder on the Colts from ESPN's NFL Nation,

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Speaker 3: All Right, the Browns are the better football team. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's it's pretty clear to me when you go through this,

1338
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 3: they are the better team. They need to act accordingly.

1339
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 3: So when they have the football, what does that mean?

1340
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 3: First and foremost, take care of the ball. We haven't

1341
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Speaker 3: even tied. What time, we haven't even tied the turnover

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01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 3: battle yet? Just tie it then we can worry about

1343
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Speaker 3: winning it. If we tie the turnover battle, I think

1344
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 3: we win this football game. We win the turnover battle.

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Speaker 3: We win this game Browns when they don't turn it

1346
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 3: over under Stefanski thirteen and two. They're twenty three and

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01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:54,920
Speaker 3: six when they tie or win the turnover battle like

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01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:57,800
Speaker 3: this is. It's pretty simple here. That's what you need

1349
01:02:57,840 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 3: to do. You do want to get that ground game boom.

1350
01:02:59,880 --> 01:03:02,080
Speaker 3: But I think you got Deshaun Watson back playing in

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01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 3: a stadium in which he has been very, very comfortable

1352
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 3: throughout his career. Attacking rookie corners that we just heard

1353
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 3: from Stephen Holder are a problem. These are both big

1354
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:12,880
Speaker 3: corners six three six ' two, not the fastest because

1355
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:15,640
Speaker 3: they're playing Dan Quinn's Cover three or Gus Bradley. I'm sorry,

1356
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 3: he's Cover three defense. We know what they're gonna play.

1357
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 3: They're gonna be in zone more than anybody in the league.

1358
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:22,600
Speaker 3: They're gonna play Cover three more than anybody in the league.

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Speaker 3: You know what to expect. You have Cover three beaters,

1360
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 3: you know their rules. I think we need to be

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Speaker 3: able to exploit that. It's gonna be on our line

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Speaker 3: to give him time. But offensively, I think the key

1363
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:34,120
Speaker 3: has hit some explosives. Take care of the football first

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Speaker 3: and foremost, and I think we'll be just fine. I

1365
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 3: like this game. I think Amario could have a nice game.

1366
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 3: Think we get goodwin going in a dome. Elijah Moore,

1367
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 3: DPJ Chief. I really like our ability to throw the football,

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Speaker 3: especially if Deshaun starts a quarterback, and then when they've

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01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:48,920
Speaker 3: got the football, it's real simple. Stop the run on

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Speaker 3: early downs, don't give Minshew on early downs, any of

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Speaker 3: those five yard plays. Tackle when they throw screens, they're

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Speaker 3: gonna throw the ball behind the line of scrimmage a ton,

1373
01:03:57,280 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 3: and then pin your ears back and overwhelm this line.

1374
01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 3: This line is not good. Their left guard is great,

1375
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:07,920
Speaker 3: their center is great. Left tackle bad, right guard, terrible,

1376
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 3: right tackle, rookie bad. We should overwhelm them. Yeah, and

1377
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 3: if that happens, Gardner Minshew will give you the football,

1378
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:17,440
Speaker 3: you'll get to take it away, and then this has

1379
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 3: a chance to be a very good game.

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Speaker 2: But this is one of those ones.

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01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:24,480
Speaker 3: Tackle well, put them in obvious passing situations, and then

1382
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:26,800
Speaker 3: we should really have a field day. I think it's

1383
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:30,400
Speaker 3: just be who we are and defensively for sure, and

1384
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 3: then offensively we need to stop turning the football over.

1385
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:37,920
Speaker 2: Period. Just been maddening. The idea that yes, the idea

1386
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 2: that you're three and two, lose the turnover battle every week,

1387
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:45,000
Speaker 2: lose a franchise running back, lose this all pro right tackle,

1388
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:48,200
Speaker 2: have played three different quarterbacks. Like just let's just have

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Speaker 2: a three week set where things go well and we

1390
01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 2: don't turn the ball over and everybody who's healthy plays,

1391
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Speaker 2: Like say, if that happens, that's it. You're gonna be

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Speaker 2: you sitting here, it'll be six and two and be

1393
01:04:58,160 --> 01:04:59,600
Speaker 2: feeling very good about yourself.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what would we quite Just so we got

1395
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:03,880
Speaker 3: to win one. We got to stack it. And I

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01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 3: think it's I'm really curious see this team. I don't

1397
01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 3: want to see them come out flat. I don't want

1398
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 3: to see any kind of a letdown. I want to

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Speaker 3: see that same intensity that we brought for the forty

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Speaker 3: nine ers to be brought against this Colts team. And

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01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:16,920
Speaker 3: I know that wan Thornhill's going to make sure these

1402
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Speaker 3: guys know that that's exactly what they have to do

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01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:20,680
Speaker 3: because we have a chance to go on a little

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01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:22,440
Speaker 3: bit of a run here, and that's certainly what I

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01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 3: want to see.

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Speaker 2: There's a We've say it all the time. I use

1407
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:30,960
Speaker 2: it a lot of times in college football that act

1408
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:33,520
Speaker 2: accordingly business. And it's harder in the NFL because on

1409
01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 2: any given Sunday, right, sure, the margins aren't as big

1410
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 2: and the injury factor that happens on a weekend, week

1411
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:41,920
Speaker 2: out basis. But in an AFC that is pretty crowded

1412
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 2: at the top. Maybe not as crowd as we thought

1413
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 2: it would be at the start of the year, but

1414
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 2: still very very crowded. When you have opportunities like this

1415
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 2: and you are playing in climate controlled and everything that

1416
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:55,000
Speaker 2: you can control is going to be controlled, it is

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01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:56,920
Speaker 2: critical that you take care of your business. There's just

1418
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Speaker 2: no reason not to. This team you were going through,

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01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:01,920
Speaker 2: we had Steven on they are battered across the board.

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Speaker 6: Yep.

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Speaker 2: They really don't have any sort of weapon of note

1422
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:06,080
Speaker 2: down the field.

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Speaker 6: Nope.

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01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:07,919
Speaker 2: You should be able to lock all of that down

1425
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 2: and then, as luck would have it, the things that

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Speaker 2: they are bad at offensively, we are fantastic at defensively,

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01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 2: So you should be able to get home. And I

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01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:19,480
Speaker 2: would assume that our corners would be ultra aggressive in

1429
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:21,080
Speaker 2: this game. There's no reason for them not to be.

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Speaker 2: And Gardner Minchew will throw you the ball, especially if

1431
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:23,920
Speaker 2: you hit him.

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01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:25,920
Speaker 3: You make him bat the ball there and I think

1433
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 3: we should be able to do that, and so first

1434
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:29,920
Speaker 3: down defense is going to be very important getting them

1435
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:33,160
Speaker 3: into those obvious passing situations. But yes, we are the

1436
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:35,840
Speaker 3: better football team here. Their corners are in a bad,

1437
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 3: bad way. They do not have the pass rush that

1438
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 3: we have. The Browns should be able to overwhelm this team,

1439
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 3: but it's going to come from playing clean and being

1440
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:46,760
Speaker 3: able to do that. And if they can, I really

1441
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 3: do think this should be a fairly easy win. And

1442
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:52,000
Speaker 3: remember this is also a team that beat the Ravens, so.

1443
01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 2: I know, yeah, it's huge.

1444
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:56,160
Speaker 3: That's huge because you win this year four and two

1445
01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 3: same as the Ravens. You've beat their AFC opponent that

1446
01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:01,480
Speaker 3: beat them. And I think the Ravens, had that game

1447
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 3: been played in Indianapolis, won that game. They were just

1448
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:05,919
Speaker 3: they should have won that game. They kind of turned

1449
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 3: it over. The weather was kind of mucky. Yeah, they

1450
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 3: should have. They should not have lost that game. Uh,

1451
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:14,600
Speaker 3: and they did bad clock management. But that's good good

1452
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:16,640
Speaker 3: for the Browns because now you have an opportunity to

1453
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:19,000
Speaker 3: beat a team that beat them. Look at them, Look

1454
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:21,400
Speaker 3: at them, Look at the swacket. Look at that sacket,

1455
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 3: Look at the swacket. Oh god, the peak.

1456
01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:28,480
Speaker 2: That's a couple of the three layers on that it

1457
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:30,560
Speaker 2: looked like to me, and then a swacket over top

1458
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:34,440
Speaker 2: of the swacket. This is his peak conditions. Yeah, he

1459
01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 2: likes this because then he can layer it up.

1460
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, then he can look like he's here yellowstone doesn't matter,

1461
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:39,200
Speaker 3: doesn't matter.

1462
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:41,120
Speaker 2: He can run a business or he can go run

1463
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 2: a runner, doesn't matter. It can do both things, so

1464
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:46,240
Speaker 2: that the versatility is there. How is that place for

1465
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:51,240
Speaker 2: an NFL environment? So I like it. I remember being

1466
01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:52,200
Speaker 2: there a few years ago.

1467
01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:55,640
Speaker 3: Uh, it's a it's a I like domes obviously, sure,

1468
01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 3: especially being on the sidelines. I haven't been up in

1469
01:07:57,520 --> 01:07:58,960
Speaker 3: the booth yet to see kind of what it's like

1470
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:00,600
Speaker 3: from up there. I know that it is very high

1471
01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:04,280
Speaker 3: up above the field of play. Is it higher than Houston?

1472
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 2: I think it might be.

1473
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 4: What, well, if Houston, you're in another Houston, you're further back.

1474
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 4: India is like straight up.

1475
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:13,440
Speaker 2: So do you have on the radio booth? Are you

1476
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:15,160
Speaker 2: more middle of the field in the or because in

1477
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 2: the press buxure all the way, you're in the corner.

1478
01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're not in the corner. We're more toward the middle,

1479
01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:20,720
Speaker 4: more toward the middle, but all the way up. It

1480
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:22,439
Speaker 4: could be like thirty thirty five.

1481
01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:26,640
Speaker 2: Oh okay, still it's okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, what do

1482
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:27,120
Speaker 2: you make of it?

1483
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:27,360
Speaker 6: Given?

1484
01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:31,519
Speaker 4: I love that city. I love the way it set up.

1485
01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:33,479
Speaker 4: It's easy to get around. I got friends that are

1486
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 4: going to the game. They're like, so, like, where is

1487
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 4: our hotel room? I go, Everything's indoor, like I've told

1488
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:39,679
Speaker 4: them three times.

1489
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:39,840
Speaker 2: I go.

1490
01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:42,720
Speaker 4: Everything is indoors, Like you never even have to go

1491
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:44,160
Speaker 4: outside if you don't want to.

1492
01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:47,120
Speaker 2: It's probably that in Minneapolis are probably the best examples

1493
01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:49,719
Speaker 2: of what a northern city should be in their downtown. Yes,

1494
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 2: if you if you want a northern city to be

1495
01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:55,240
Speaker 2: have a livable downtown three sixty five, then you have

1496
01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:56,519
Speaker 2: to do what those two cities do.

1497
01:08:56,640 --> 01:09:00,720
Speaker 3: And they both crush, no doubt everything. Yeah, like, and

1498
01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:03,559
Speaker 3: it's great. The commute from the hotel the stadium is

1499
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:06,799
Speaker 3: a minute. The commute from the stadium to the airport

1500
01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:10,160
Speaker 3: is not long either. It is like the opposite of Houston.

1501
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very navigable, and in downtown is awesome. It's

1502
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:15,720
Speaker 2: so easy to walk.

1503
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:17,680
Speaker 4: Like, why can we be at Indie for Christmas? Why

1504
01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:19,320
Speaker 4: do we have to be in Houston. There's a great,

1505
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:20,679
Speaker 4: great food scene.

1506
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:21,400
Speaker 2: That's good.

1507
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:23,120
Speaker 3: Like he's going to an Italian place.

1508
01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:24,720
Speaker 2: I think Saturday night, you are.

1509
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:28,640
Speaker 4: Have you stopped they stopping to have a little appetizer

1510
01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:29,800
Speaker 4: shromp cocktail gets hurt.

1511
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:32,960
Speaker 2: Nobody gets hurt, No one, nobody. Well, actually you almost died.

1512
01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:36,479
Speaker 4: I did that was that was an aggressive Maybe that's

1513
01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:38,719
Speaker 4: a different Maybe someone does get.

1514
01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:40,840
Speaker 2: Hurt actually in that situation. I've only been there for

1515
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:44,040
Speaker 2: Big Ten championship games, and for that it's awesome. It's

1516
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:45,080
Speaker 2: it's perfect, you know.

1517
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 4: I mean, I think the last time we were there

1518
01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:51,000
Speaker 4: was the last time we were there pre season after

1519
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:52,840
Speaker 4: a joint practices with Frederico.

1520
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:56,439
Speaker 3: No, we were there, all three of us combine.

1521
01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 2: No, but he means like us as a team as

1522
01:09:58,360 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 2: a team, we were there.

1523
01:09:59,360 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 6: I think. Yeah.

1524
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,360
Speaker 3: And now we played We played a regular season game

1525
01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:06,240
Speaker 3: there back in two thousand and I want to say seventeen,

1526
01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:08,439
Speaker 3: and we lost to I believe Jacoby Brissett started for

1527
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:09,040
Speaker 3: them in that game.

1528
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:12,599
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, yeah, so I don't I don't remember what

1529
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:15,040
Speaker 4: the game day experience is like. I just know the

1530
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 4: stadium is easy to get around. Logistically, it's great. Inside

1531
01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:19,840
Speaker 4: outside lines or everything is great.

1532
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:23,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. The only thing I remember Manning lamenting the

1533
01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:25,519
Speaker 2: idea that they lost some of their noise when they

1534
01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:27,680
Speaker 2: went from the Hoosier Dome to this one, that this

1535
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:29,759
Speaker 2: one was better and more spacious, but that the Hoosier

1536
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:32,080
Speaker 2: Dome was louder. I guess it was RCA or whatever

1537
01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:35,720
Speaker 2: it was. But the one thing I remember from the

1538
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:38,200
Speaker 2: Manning era specifically was just it was like one of

1539
01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:41,799
Speaker 2: the first NFL stadiums I remember where everybody wore a jersey. Yeah,

1540
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:44,160
Speaker 2: because it has the northern you know, kind of the

1541
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:47,440
Speaker 2: northern culture of jersey wearing. But it was also indoors,

1542
01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:49,600
Speaker 2: so you could actually see the jerseys versus having to

1543
01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:51,599
Speaker 2: wear coats and slickers and all that type of stuff.

1544
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:54,280
Speaker 2: So that's that. That was something that jumped out to

1545
01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:57,000
Speaker 2: me because it felt like everybody in that stadium or jersey.

1546
01:10:57,360 --> 01:11:02,679
Speaker 4: I think that Cleveland South is going to be Indianapolis, Yeah,

1547
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:05,559
Speaker 4: I think. I think there are a lot of fans going.

1548
01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:06,439
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1549
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:08,800
Speaker 2: I mean, the only negative thing about there is it's

1550
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:11,160
Speaker 2: just brutal to get over there. If you could drive

1551
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:13,400
Speaker 2: a straw straight line from here to there and put

1552
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 2: a freeway there, it'd probably be a three hour drive.

1553
01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:18,160
Speaker 4: The problem is the Great State of Indianapolis. And I

1554
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:24,080
Speaker 4: say that sarcastically has two lane highways Indiana. Did I

1555
01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:26,040
Speaker 4: say indian Great State of Indianapolis?

1556
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:26,320
Speaker 3: You did.

1557
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:28,479
Speaker 2: There's just no easy way to get from here to there,

1558
01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:30,880
Speaker 2: like you have to go. You got to go through

1559
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:33,720
Speaker 2: Columbus is the fastest. But it's just a that's a

1560
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:36,680
Speaker 2: tough drive. I hate that drive. Yeah, it's brutal. Well,

1561
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:39,920
Speaker 2: and you might as well stay till Monday. Oh my god. Yeah,

1562
01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:43,160
Speaker 2: you're not getting out. No, you're not getting out. No,

1563
01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:45,439
Speaker 2: Great State of Indianapolis, good job.

1564
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:45,680
Speaker 6: Give it.

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Speaker 3: Last time we were in Indianapolis for a game regular

1570
01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:01,040
Speaker 3: season was two thousand and seven team we lost thirty

1571
01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:04,880
Speaker 3: one to twenty eight Di Jacobe percent.

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Speaker 4: So you know, UNO had the forecast is fifty nine

1573
01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:10,160
Speaker 4: and partly Sonny I said, that's great, weren't it Dome?

1574
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:13,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, but they're talking about having it. Oh, the top open, Well,

1575
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:16,519
Speaker 3: they can only do the end, the end, the one end. Yeah,

1576
01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:19,000
Speaker 3: it's not the top, it's just one.

1577
01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:21,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, which I think is fine to do that.

1578
01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:21,840
Speaker 6: It's great.

1579
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:23,840
Speaker 2: That's what you can do right into the city. Yeah,

1580
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:25,320
Speaker 2: if you were ever to do if we ever do

1581
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:27,559
Speaker 2: a dome here, God willing, if you could do something

1582
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:30,680
Speaker 2: where maybe the end's open so you get get the

1583
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:32,720
Speaker 2: cross to Minnesota. Yeah, that's it.

1584
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:33,600
Speaker 3: There's nothing wrong with it.

1585
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:36,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, you No one needs to feel the outside elements. No,

1586
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:39,000
Speaker 2: just be built for a reason. Yeah, just do it

1587
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:41,120
Speaker 2: that way to Minnesota. That's what you do it in Minnesota.

1588
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1591
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Speaker 2: All right, kids, it's time for a little segment we

1604
01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:40,040
Speaker 2: like to call you're welcome. We got to get that

1605
01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:43,200
Speaker 2: as a drop that the the DiCaprio line, that that

1606
01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:45,240
Speaker 2: really is what we ask you, that to judge us,

1607
01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:47,120
Speaker 2: not on our winners, but on our losers, because there

1608
01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:49,800
Speaker 2: are so few. That's the way. That's as great.

1609
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:53,400
Speaker 3: Great, Well, last week more winners than losers again, nine

1610
01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:58,800
Speaker 3: and five for both of us. Thirty games over five

1611
01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:03,640
Speaker 3: hundred is where we see both each which is remarkable.

1612
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:05,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we're tied. It like between the two of us,

1613
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:08,360
Speaker 2: we're both exactly thirty ozero. Yeah, and we both have

1614
01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:11,439
Speaker 2: had on different weeks of fourteen and two. Yeah, that's wild,

1615
01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:13,200
Speaker 2: that's right. Well, this week, none of that. They are

1616
01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:16,479
Speaker 2: only thirteen games possible. Yeah, light week, light week of

1617
01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:17,519
Speaker 2: a light week, and we're at one.

1618
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:18,920
Speaker 3: So we just need to go six and six to

1619
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:21,679
Speaker 3: keep the winning streak alive, which I think we'll.

1620
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:25,400
Speaker 2: Do pretty confident. Well it should be. I mean the

1621
01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:25,960
Speaker 2: track records.

1622
01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 4: I mean, I feel like in weeks where you really

1623
01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 4: knock it out of the park on the guests to

1624
01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:34,599
Speaker 4: spread that these these fall into place pretty good. It's yeah,

1625
01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:36,879
Speaker 4: but there are weeks there we got like the double digits.

1626
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:39,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. The thing that there's I'll tell you this before

1627
01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:42,919
Speaker 2: we get into this, there are a lot of variable

1628
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:46,559
Speaker 2: quarterback situations here that we're going through. Yes, that make

1629
01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:49,639
Speaker 2: this very tricky. I mean we're seeing we're gonna see

1630
01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:52,960
Speaker 2: arm wrestling kid dad play like. I don't know what that.

1631
01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:54,439
Speaker 2: I don't know what that even means. I don't know

1632
01:14:54,479 --> 01:14:56,800
Speaker 2: what Shepherd University is. I have no idea what that

1633
01:14:56,840 --> 01:15:00,559
Speaker 2: could look like. I mean, quarterbacking the Raiders, we don't know,

1634
01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:03,760
Speaker 2: no clue. Why haven't they said I have no idea?

1635
01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:07,160
Speaker 2: I have no idea? Is it Bailey Zappie in New England?

1636
01:15:07,479 --> 01:15:09,400
Speaker 2: Are they sticking with Mac Jones from the back?

1637
01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:10,320
Speaker 4: You know?

1638
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:13,800
Speaker 2: So that's just it's a brutal from that sense, it's

1639
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:15,280
Speaker 2: a brutal slate.

1640
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:19,559
Speaker 4: Is Dan Dimes play he is officially questionable but still

1641
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:22,640
Speaker 4: not cleared for contact. I don't know how that questionable,

1642
01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:24,880
Speaker 4: that's not, that's out, that's yeah. I think you're trending

1643
01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:25,639
Speaker 4: the other directions.

1644
01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:29,599
Speaker 2: This is quite honestly, it's a pretty bad week for football.

1645
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:33,639
Speaker 2: Now we've got the Sunday nighter. Yep, but you're watching

1646
01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:37,559
Speaker 2: our game early that four o'clocks are actually decent, and

1647
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:38,800
Speaker 2: then you got the Sunday nighter.

1648
01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:41,479
Speaker 4: I don't know why we just can't like get this

1649
01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:43,800
Speaker 4: right every week and just have consistently.

1650
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:46,479
Speaker 2: I don't think there is I don't think there are

1651
01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:48,120
Speaker 2: any good I don't think there are that many good teams.

1652
01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:51,360
Speaker 2: There's been so many injuries, so many quarterback injuries, that

1653
01:15:51,439 --> 01:15:53,400
Speaker 2: the teams that we thought would be further ahead than

1654
01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:56,760
Speaker 2: they are aren't. And we haven't had like you would

1655
01:15:56,760 --> 01:15:59,920
Speaker 2: have assumed at this point that like, for example, Justin

1656
01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:02,920
Speaker 2: Fields would have been elevating. Well, he's not even playing

1657
01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:06,040
Speaker 2: and they've been largely bad. So like the guys who

1658
01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:09,320
Speaker 2: you thought would take leaps haven't across the board. Kind

1659
01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:10,519
Speaker 2: of that's that would be the case.

1660
01:16:11,320 --> 01:16:13,360
Speaker 4: All right, let's get down to it, and we start

1661
01:16:13,439 --> 01:16:18,959
Speaker 4: in the NFC South Atlanta Are they going to be gutless?

1662
01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:22,000
Speaker 4: Are they not going to be gunless? Visiting Tampa Bay,

1663
01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:25,679
Speaker 4: both teams coming off losses three and two versus three

1664
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:29,960
Speaker 4: and three for bragging rights. Early on in the NFC South,

1665
01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:32,080
Speaker 4: Nate lead us off.

1666
01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:35,440
Speaker 7: Dude, creepsicles.

1667
01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:42,559
Speaker 2: Nate Pedro wore off on him, by the way, how'd

1668
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:45,280
Speaker 2: he do last week? Oh it's a good question, good question.

1669
01:16:45,360 --> 01:16:51,120
Speaker 2: Let me he had very specific.

1670
01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 3: Two and one, two and two, two and three, three

1671
01:16:58,400 --> 01:16:58,840
Speaker 3: and three.

1672
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:00,840
Speaker 2: Does it's sound like we're four and.

1673
01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:05,519
Speaker 3: Three, four and four, four and five, four and six,

1674
01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:13,160
Speaker 3: five and six, four, five and seven, five and eight,

1675
01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:15,840
Speaker 3: Oh jeez, five and eight.

1676
01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:19,599
Speaker 2: Five and eight out of eights. He just comes into this,

1677
01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:23,200
Speaker 2: into this radio booth and just gets battered, whether it's

1678
01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:26,240
Speaker 2: he does, whether it's the scores or the trial of Pedro,

1679
01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:29,599
Speaker 2: Like it's just just not a friendly it's not friendly fire.

1680
01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:31,720
Speaker 3: For it is friendly fire. He's gonna make the most

1681
01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:31,960
Speaker 3: of them.

1682
01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:33,760
Speaker 2: Yeah he's not. He'sive. No, all right.

1683
01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:36,280
Speaker 3: I don't believe in the Falcons at all. I think

1684
01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:39,000
Speaker 3: Tampa is good at taking down teams that aren't good.

1685
01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:43,120
Speaker 3: The Falcons have a great defense, but that's about it.

1686
01:17:43,360 --> 01:17:43,519
Speaker 6: Now.

1687
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:47,639
Speaker 3: They went out last week, and guess what they got

1688
01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:51,759
Speaker 3: to beat pretty good by the Commish. I'm not a believer.

1689
01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:55,160
Speaker 3: I'm just not in the Falcons ridder. I think it's known.

1690
01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:59,599
Speaker 2: Bucks three Falcons negative seven. Yeah. I think the only

1691
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:02,160
Speaker 2: thing that get me pause from picking the Bucks is

1692
01:18:02,439 --> 01:18:05,040
Speaker 2: it was I like had PTSD with that Baker press

1693
01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:07,360
Speaker 2: conference on Sunday. I didn't see it, so maybe it's

1694
01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:09,800
Speaker 2: keeping me mighty. It was we all got to get better,

1695
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:12,880
Speaker 2: and it starts with me, and I went, I've heard

1696
01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:16,040
Speaker 2: those How didn't look though, did it? It didn't shavee me?

1697
01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:20,599
Speaker 2: It wasn't San Marsh. Yeah, I'm with you. I got

1698
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:25,640
Speaker 2: I got Tampa Bay as well. Yeah, I'll give me

1699
01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:28,400
Speaker 2: the Bucks. I'll go seven to two, seven to two Bucks.

1700
01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:31,559
Speaker 4: Up next, the biggest number in the National Football League

1701
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:35,360
Speaker 4: for a week seven, it's the Buffalo Bills traveling to

1702
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:39,400
Speaker 4: New England to battle the Gutlass Patriots. Patriots one in

1703
01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:42,320
Speaker 4: five Buffalo four and two.

1704
01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:46,160
Speaker 2: Bishop. Yeah, I go. I don't feel like I can

1705
01:18:46,160 --> 01:18:47,599
Speaker 2: ever get the right read on Buffalo.

1706
01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:50,000
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter. You know the read on New England.

1707
01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:51,679
Speaker 2: No, I know I do, But I had the read

1708
01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 2: on the Giants too. With Tyrod Taylor and they handled

1709
01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:58,080
Speaker 2: their business. So last week I went with Buffalo to cover.

1710
01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:00,400
Speaker 2: It didn't work. This week, I'm going with Buffalo to cover,

1711
01:19:00,479 --> 01:19:03,400
Speaker 2: and it's going to work. Give me the Bills huge,

1712
01:19:03,439 --> 01:19:06,280
Speaker 2: seventy seven to two. I think the Patriots are broken.

1713
01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:08,720
Speaker 3: Same, same, same same. I had already written that one

1714
01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:10,559
Speaker 3: in for you. I knew that there was no there

1715
01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:11,320
Speaker 3: was no other way.

1716
01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:15,479
Speaker 4: To go next to our game on Sunday and the

1717
01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:17,960
Speaker 4: Sunday night or this one's worth paying attention to.

1718
01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:18,680
Speaker 2: That's a good one.

1719
01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:23,000
Speaker 4: Detroit five and one on the season on the road

1720
01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:26,519
Speaker 4: visiting the rat Birds. Four and two on the football season.

1721
01:19:27,400 --> 01:19:31,280
Speaker 4: Dan Campbell, Jamiir Gibb's gonna play. He's gonna play a lot.

1722
01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:31,840
Speaker 6: There you go.

1723
01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:33,719
Speaker 2: You know David Montgomery in this one.

1724
01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:36,000
Speaker 4: We're gonna need of me, He says, well, we'll see

1725
01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:39,400
Speaker 4: does he actually play? Nathaniel I like the Lion's team.

1726
01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:41,640
Speaker 4: Jared Goff is playing like a top five quarterback in

1727
01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:44,840
Speaker 4: the league. They're getting Jamison Williams back. I like them

1728
01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:46,639
Speaker 4: very very much. I like their defense. I think they're

1729
01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:49,639
Speaker 4: gonna be able to put pressure on Lamar Jackson. They're

1730
01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:51,880
Speaker 4: the number one run defense in the NFL. This is

1731
01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:54,040
Speaker 4: a good match up here. I'm a little I don't

1732
01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:55,559
Speaker 4: like the spread. I actually thought this should be a

1733
01:19:55,560 --> 01:20:00,040
Speaker 4: pick them. This was in my own world. So that

1734
01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:03,839
Speaker 4: being said, I still think the Leons go. They're darling.

1735
01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:04,920
Speaker 4: I think they're hot.

1736
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:06,599
Speaker 3: Even if the Ravens would have beat him twenty one

1737
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:08,800
Speaker 3: twenty doesn't matter for my purposes, but I don't think

1738
01:20:08,840 --> 01:20:14,200
Speaker 3: they do Lions twenty four Ravens seventeen questions emerging.

1739
01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:18,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, Baltimore, I'm saying with them, Samesey's with you on this.

1740
01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:20,800
Speaker 2: I think Detroit is legitimately good. I think if you

1741
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:23,000
Speaker 2: look at what Goff has been over the last seventeen games,

1742
01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:24,880
Speaker 2: it's as good as anybody in the league. And I

1743
01:20:24,920 --> 01:20:27,599
Speaker 2: think they unlocked Jamison william There's more where that came

1744
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:31,240
Speaker 2: from with him. Yeah, and they hit him on a

1745
01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:32,960
Speaker 2: big one. There was another one he was running open.

1746
01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:35,160
Speaker 2: They'll hit him on more of those. That's gonna open

1747
01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:37,240
Speaker 2: up everything. They're gonna get Montgomery back, They're gonna be

1748
01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:40,120
Speaker 2: even better. Plus, I mean, it's like a sister city Detroit.

1749
01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:42,320
Speaker 2: Take care of your business. Go do us a personal favor. Yeah,

1750
01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:44,960
Speaker 2: you get hurt, Thank you up next, it's the inmate

1751
01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:47,879
Speaker 2: game of the week. This is gross. The Vegas Raiders.

1752
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:48,880
Speaker 2: They're three and three.

1753
01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:51,599
Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't know how, but they're three

1754
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:56,040
Speaker 4: and three on the road Soldier Field, one in five

1755
01:20:56,240 --> 01:20:59,200
Speaker 4: the Bears. I feel like their coach probably the leader

1756
01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:01,080
Speaker 4: on the hot seat to not make it through the

1757
01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:08,200
Speaker 4: football season. Eber Fluse, Yeah again, No, Jimmy g No,

1758
01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:09,840
Speaker 4: justin Fields, no idea.

1759
01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:13,040
Speaker 6: He's playing quarterback for the Raiders. Bishop God Speak.

1760
01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:15,880
Speaker 2: Gross game. Yeah, this is awful. I know where you're

1761
01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:17,880
Speaker 2: going with this because of your affinity of the Father,

1762
01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:20,479
Speaker 2: and I don't blame you. The Father's great. I just

1763
01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:22,360
Speaker 2: think Chicago's going to be a mess. How can I

1764
01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:25,559
Speaker 2: pick a guy, a kid who played at Shepherd. I mean,

1765
01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:27,280
Speaker 2: I know who the dad is, I know the lineage,

1766
01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:28,760
Speaker 2: I know that he came from his loins, but it

1767
01:21:28,800 --> 01:21:32,280
Speaker 2: just seems impossible. I'll take the Raiders in a gross

1768
01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:33,160
Speaker 2: game nine to six.

1769
01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:38,439
Speaker 3: I mean, badg Bagent. His dad is a legend. He's

1770
01:21:38,439 --> 01:21:41,160
Speaker 3: a pure electricity. This kid's tatted up all over the place.

1771
01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:43,280
Speaker 3: I think he's a scrapper. I think he's a fighter.

1772
01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:47,320
Speaker 2: If he plays well. Do they even let Fields play again,

1773
01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:50,200
Speaker 2: just let this get live. Here's the truth.

1774
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:53,960
Speaker 3: This isn't a cage, this isn't an arm wrestling exhibition.

1775
01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:56,679
Speaker 3: This is the National Football League. And I don't care

1776
01:21:56,720 --> 01:21:59,439
Speaker 3: how talented he is coming from where he did that,

1777
01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:01,439
Speaker 3: he's going to just jump right in here a year

1778
01:22:01,520 --> 01:22:03,920
Speaker 3: later and take on an NFL team with the condor

1779
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:06,960
Speaker 3: Max Crosby coming after him. I don't see it happening either.

1780
01:22:07,360 --> 01:22:09,840
Speaker 3: I love it Beagent's dad alone is going to be

1781
01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:11,560
Speaker 3: worth three points.

1782
01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:18,920
Speaker 2: But that's it. That's it. Six point five to three. Okays,

1783
01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:22,680
Speaker 2: radus the same so far.

1784
01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:23,000
Speaker 6: That is.

1785
01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:24,280
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's good or scary.

1786
01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:27,599
Speaker 2: It's hard to say. To the NFC East, we go

1787
01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:28,439
Speaker 2: the g men.

1788
01:22:28,479 --> 01:22:33,160
Speaker 4: As I mentioned, Daniel Jones questionable, still not cleared for contact.

1789
01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:36,200
Speaker 4: Not sure how that goes. Sakuon Barkley, please don't trade

1790
01:22:36,200 --> 01:22:37,280
Speaker 4: me like that?

1791
01:22:37,479 --> 01:22:40,640
Speaker 2: Interesting from that, Yeah, that's weird. It feels like he

1792
01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:41,880
Speaker 2: would benefit from being traded.

1793
01:22:42,040 --> 01:22:42,280
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1794
01:22:42,520 --> 01:22:46,720
Speaker 4: Giants hosting the Commis. Giants won in five the Commis

1795
01:22:47,120 --> 01:22:50,320
Speaker 4: three and three on the football season. The Giants, by

1796
01:22:50,320 --> 01:22:55,400
Speaker 4: the way, I have lost four in a row. Let's see, Nathan.

1797
01:22:55,720 --> 01:22:57,120
Speaker 3: I don't know if I could continue I'm reading a

1798
01:22:57,120 --> 01:22:59,240
Speaker 3: tweet says more talk about the Browns, less fashion news.

1799
01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:00,559
Speaker 3: Why do I want to know what other people are

1800
01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:01,519
Speaker 3: wearing on a radio show.

1801
01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:03,559
Speaker 2: You don't get the show.

1802
01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:06,479
Speaker 3: Sorry, it's sad.

1803
01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:10,160
Speaker 2: Don't get it was a swacket, it was beautiful. We

1804
01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:12,800
Speaker 2: described it quilted gray. Don't get the show. We can't

1805
01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:14,439
Speaker 2: you can't can't do We can't worry about the people

1806
01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:17,320
Speaker 2: who don't. You can't do it, all right.

1807
01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:20,160
Speaker 3: I think the Commanders are one of those hot and

1808
01:23:20,240 --> 01:23:23,800
Speaker 3: cold teams. But the Giants are starting offensive linemen off

1809
01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:26,479
Speaker 3: the streets, and they do have a very good defensive front.

1810
01:23:26,479 --> 01:23:28,679
Speaker 3: So I think the Kamis are going to go into

1811
01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:30,880
Speaker 3: the meadowlands and they are going to get it done

1812
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:35,040
Speaker 3: by the beautiful score of twelve to zero.

1813
01:23:35,439 --> 01:23:38,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, same, This is gross. It's just gross. Eight to

1814
01:23:38,439 --> 01:23:42,439
Speaker 2: two Commies. A lot of baseball scores this weekend.

1815
01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:47,240
Speaker 4: That's fine, that's fine. We're in the baseball playoffs. Who cares?

1816
01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:52,799
Speaker 4: Not sure? Where is you know, by the way, stepped

1817
01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:54,479
Speaker 4: away for a little bit. Where is he coming back?

1818
01:23:55,400 --> 01:23:56,400
Speaker 6: I don't know the answer.

1819
01:23:56,479 --> 01:23:58,800
Speaker 3: You have some more fashion? Uno is wearing like a

1820
01:23:58,920 --> 01:24:00,240
Speaker 3: dress jort today?

1821
01:24:00,439 --> 01:24:01,000
Speaker 2: Is he really?

1822
01:24:01,320 --> 01:24:01,479
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1823
01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:05,880
Speaker 2: I gotta see this, yes, address Jeorde, good for him?

1824
01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:09,280
Speaker 2: Why not? Why not? Where's he stepped away to give

1825
01:24:10,920 --> 01:24:12,439
Speaker 2: meetings luminaries.

1826
01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:20,280
Speaker 4: To the NFC West? We go the Arizona Cardinals one

1827
01:24:20,320 --> 01:24:24,439
Speaker 4: in five. Kyler's working out the kinks. He's got like

1828
01:24:24,479 --> 01:24:26,960
Speaker 4: a twenty one day period to get ready. Buddha Baker,

1829
01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:31,679
Speaker 4: same thing. They won't have either one of those guys though,

1830
01:24:31,680 --> 01:24:34,160
Speaker 4: as they take on the three and two Seattle Seahawks

1831
01:24:34,360 --> 01:24:36,880
Speaker 4: in Seattle, Bishop.

1832
01:24:37,160 --> 01:24:39,040
Speaker 2: There was a time when Arizona was like a plucky

1833
01:24:39,080 --> 01:24:42,360
Speaker 2: fun team. Those are the times in our rearview mirror.

1834
01:24:42,439 --> 01:24:46,679
Speaker 2: Seattle gets right after playing pretty frustrating game again Cincinnati

1835
01:24:46,760 --> 01:24:51,240
Speaker 2: last week. I like the Seahawks big twenty eight to fourteen.

1836
01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:54,439
Speaker 3: This is the Jackson Smith and Jig but breakout game.

1837
01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:56,960
Speaker 3: The Hawks are gonna be rolling. My dad when we

1838
01:24:57,000 --> 01:24:59,160
Speaker 3: would play stratamatic, we used to be the Seahawks and

1839
01:24:59,200 --> 01:25:01,120
Speaker 3: he was seeking the that we had a little lp.

1840
01:25:01,800 --> 01:25:03,680
Speaker 3: The Seahawk wave is on a roll on it. The

1841
01:25:04,479 --> 01:25:08,960
Speaker 3: tide is coming in. The Hawks are gonna win. Seattle

1842
01:25:09,400 --> 01:25:15,320
Speaker 3: one thousand, seven hundred and ninety two. Oh God, Arizona

1843
01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:20,000
Speaker 3: one thousand, seven hundred and eighty nine.

1844
01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:25,360
Speaker 2: Oh baby, whoa, that's a game. They're still playing that

1845
01:25:25,439 --> 01:25:30,080
Speaker 2: on Tuesday. That's Madden baby, Wow Wow, I'm here for

1846
01:25:30,120 --> 01:25:30,559
Speaker 2: all of it.

1847
01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:35,240
Speaker 4: More fun On the West Coast, the Pukers back in

1848
01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:39,320
Speaker 4: action after their bye week, visiting the Los Angeles Rams.

1849
01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:43,800
Speaker 4: It's so fi no friar move Hammy looks like he

1850
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:46,599
Speaker 4: could be on the shelf for a few weeks now. TJ.

1851
01:25:46,720 --> 01:25:50,320
Speaker 2: Watt did not practice yesterday. Had a little heel. Things says.

1852
01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:51,920
Speaker 2: It's a minor injury, but it's a heel.

1853
01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:57,960
Speaker 4: You never know what's gonna happen there, Pukers, Rams, mister Zigura.

1854
01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:06,080
Speaker 3: In the words of the counselor or the teacher, I

1855
01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:13,120
Speaker 3: guess it was from South Park. Steelers are baden kay, Yes, right,

1856
01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:16,520
Speaker 3: Rams a billion Steelers zero.

1857
01:26:18,040 --> 01:26:22,000
Speaker 2: The same, Yeah, are a solid team. Well, and with

1858
01:26:22,160 --> 01:26:25,639
Speaker 2: Cup back, and they have Dakua and Cup, they've got weapons. Now,

1859
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:27,400
Speaker 2: it'll hurt him with Williams out because he'd been a

1860
01:26:27,400 --> 01:26:29,400
Speaker 2: stud and so good. So I'll have to go committee

1861
01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:31,480
Speaker 2: at running back. But I'm with you, Rammitt.

1862
01:26:32,760 --> 01:26:33,040
Speaker 6: Uh.

1863
01:26:33,080 --> 01:26:36,760
Speaker 4: Next up, this one's not much better than the the

1864
01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:41,000
Speaker 4: Bears and Raiders. H it is the Green Bay Packers

1865
01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:44,920
Speaker 4: at two and three on the season, visiting the one

1866
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:50,760
Speaker 4: in five Bronco Country. Let's ride Denver. Bronco is an

1867
01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:54,000
Speaker 4: awful game. Another awful game, Bishop, I.

1868
01:26:53,960 --> 01:27:00,599
Speaker 2: Know, Packers three Broncos two. No, Packers four Broncos two. Sorry,

1869
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:02,280
Speaker 2: Packers four Broncos two.

1870
01:27:02,680 --> 01:27:03,080
Speaker 6: Gross.

1871
01:27:03,320 --> 01:27:05,760
Speaker 2: I think this game is gross, grossball.

1872
01:27:06,040 --> 01:27:08,679
Speaker 3: You got the Packers coming off of bye, the Denver

1873
01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:12,120
Speaker 3: off Thursday night. They were terrible. I think they're an

1874
01:27:12,160 --> 01:27:15,080
Speaker 3: awful team. It's I think both of these teams are gross.

1875
01:27:15,560 --> 01:27:17,400
Speaker 3: Denver is gonna win at some point. Right to Sean

1876
01:27:17,439 --> 01:27:19,639
Speaker 3: Payton have anything less as Russ Wilson have anything left.

1877
01:27:19,720 --> 01:27:20,040
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1878
01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:23,599
Speaker 3: Maybe they don't, but maybe they do. Oh boy, Denver four,

1879
01:27:24,439 --> 01:27:25,240
Speaker 3: Green Bay three.

1880
01:27:27,240 --> 01:27:31,639
Speaker 2: Mm hm hmmm. All right, Pitchers duel uh.

1881
01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:38,000
Speaker 4: To Kansas City we go the debut slash reunion. Nicole

1882
01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:42,759
Speaker 4: Hardman back with the Kansas City Chiefs. Maybe that'll jump

1883
01:27:42,760 --> 01:27:46,160
Speaker 4: start this Chiefs offense. Even though Kansas City is five

1884
01:27:46,200 --> 01:27:51,200
Speaker 4: and one, they're hosting the two and three Los Angeles Chargers.

1885
01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:55,400
Speaker 4: Brandon Staley tick tick you both, tick tick tick. Chargers

1886
01:27:55,960 --> 01:27:59,760
Speaker 4: Chiefs Nathaniel the.

1887
01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:02,040
Speaker 3: Charge aren't gonna win because that's not what they do

1888
01:28:02,120 --> 01:28:03,719
Speaker 3: you and I see this exactly the same.

1889
01:28:04,280 --> 01:28:07,080
Speaker 2: But they are very good at losing close games. This

1890
01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:09,679
Speaker 2: feels like thirty four to thirty one. Boy, sure does.

1891
01:28:10,120 --> 01:28:12,360
Speaker 3: I don't even know that we're gonna necessarily need the

1892
01:28:12,360 --> 01:28:14,559
Speaker 3: back door part, but if we do, justin Herbert will

1893
01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:15,720
Speaker 3: be there'll be for you here.

1894
01:28:15,760 --> 01:28:16,880
Speaker 2: I am yeah, But I.

1895
01:28:16,880 --> 01:28:19,360
Speaker 3: Think it's more likely, in fact, that perhaps they're even

1896
01:28:19,400 --> 01:28:22,400
Speaker 3: ahead with about five minutes to go and figure out

1897
01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:25,000
Speaker 3: a way to lose and the Chiefs pull it out

1898
01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:26,240
Speaker 3: like thirty two to thirty.

1899
01:28:26,720 --> 01:28:27,000
Speaker 6: Same.

1900
01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:29,800
Speaker 2: It's just that it just screams that type of game,

1901
01:28:30,160 --> 01:28:32,000
Speaker 2: this field. This is the other thing to watch out

1902
01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:35,280
Speaker 2: for folks on Kansas City is they get they always

1903
01:28:35,280 --> 01:28:38,600
Speaker 2: get them a mahomes boost to the scores. Yeah, so

1904
01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:40,679
Speaker 2: boot they can always get a big boost. It's usually

1905
01:28:40,760 --> 01:28:42,640
Speaker 2: like two and a half or three they'll get like

1906
01:28:42,920 --> 01:28:45,240
Speaker 2: it's like too much. It happens almost every week, the

1907
01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:47,840
Speaker 2: Swift coming to this game. Do we know I'm not

1908
01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:50,679
Speaker 2: on the Swift train. I don't know. The movies launched,

1909
01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:54,760
Speaker 2: they've done set. Oh I know the movie has been Gangbusters.

1910
01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:57,160
Speaker 2: Yeah gang Buster yeah, yeah, yeah, crushing it.

1911
01:28:57,160 --> 01:28:59,719
Speaker 3: It's interesting though, I would saw something from a pundit.

1912
01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:05,200
Speaker 3: Her song choices certain material material certain material No, No.

1913
01:29:05,160 --> 01:29:07,680
Speaker 2: Not not as traditional as what you would think or

1914
01:29:07,760 --> 01:29:08,760
Speaker 2: maybe that some would want.

1915
01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:16,160
Speaker 4: We'll see Sunday night foosball. Arguably two of the three

1916
01:29:16,439 --> 01:29:19,120
Speaker 4: or four teams in the National Football Age. Can I

1917
01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:23,120
Speaker 4: interest you in the five and one Philadelphia Eagles playing

1918
01:29:23,120 --> 01:29:25,960
Speaker 4: host to the five and one Miami Dolphins get a

1919
01:29:26,040 --> 01:29:27,439
Speaker 4: nap after the one o'clock games?

1920
01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:31,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, take a yeah, and get ready.

1921
01:29:31,160 --> 01:29:32,519
Speaker 3: We got to get on an airplane. But I think

1922
01:29:32,520 --> 01:29:34,280
Speaker 3: we'll be because of the proximity. I feel like we

1923
01:29:34,280 --> 01:29:36,800
Speaker 3: should be home, yes, in a reasonable time.

1924
01:29:37,040 --> 01:29:40,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, for this game, don't jinxus, don't forget we got

1925
01:29:41,560 --> 01:29:42,000
Speaker 4: who's going?

1926
01:29:42,880 --> 01:29:43,519
Speaker 3: Like? Thanks you?

1927
01:29:43,680 --> 01:29:44,240
Speaker 6: Yeah? You?

1928
01:29:44,360 --> 01:29:50,760
Speaker 2: Okay? Philly coming off a loss at home. That defense,

1929
01:29:50,960 --> 01:29:52,800
Speaker 2: I think you're in for a classic game. I like

1930
01:29:52,840 --> 01:29:55,639
Speaker 2: Philly winning by a field goal in this one thirty

1931
01:29:55,640 --> 01:29:57,200
Speaker 2: four to thirty one. Give me Philly.

1932
01:29:57,280 --> 01:29:59,320
Speaker 3: I feel the same way, like, who's not taking the

1933
01:29:59,360 --> 01:30:03,720
Speaker 3: red hot Miami Dolphins secondary issue, I don't get it.

1934
01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:06,320
Speaker 3: Eagles in that Kelly Green by the way, Yeah, which

1935
01:30:06,360 --> 01:30:08,559
Speaker 3: is gonna be gorgeous. I'm with you, Eagles. So we

1936
01:30:08,600 --> 01:30:13,920
Speaker 3: really only have Arizona Seattle different and Denver Green Bay different,

1937
01:30:13,960 --> 01:30:15,120
Speaker 3: which we're.

1938
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Speaker 2: Not going to manufacture disagreement. I won't. I won't stand

1939
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Speaker 2: for it. Well, now there's integrity on this program. We'll

1940
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Speaker 2: pick our g integrity, great Intiger pick our game. Coming

1941
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Speaker 2: up next Cleveland to Dayly eight fifty ESPN.

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1943
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1944
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1945
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Speaker 2: Kennon Girard eleven AM Browns kickoff, Andy and Tyvas and

1946
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Speaker 2: then one o'clock kickoff from Lucas Oil Stadium. Andrew Ceciliano

1947
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Speaker 2: in for Jim Z and Girrod All on Yes Sunday.

1948
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Speaker 2: Across the Cleveland Browns Radio Network, Buckeyes and Nitney lyons

1949
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Speaker 2: noon tomorrow at the About that one, ah good. These

1950
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Speaker 2: two teams are kind of like a mirror. Franklin needs

1951
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Speaker 2: it far more than than day does State. Franklin has

1952
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Speaker 2: He's got to win one of these games. Pensan State

1953
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Speaker 2: hasn't won it Ohio Stadium since twenty eleven. Wow and so.

1954
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Speaker 2: But all of the games are competitive in this series.

1955
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Speaker 2: The last decade, Ohio State's only lost one, but they've

1956
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Speaker 2: been very, very competitive. I think Ohio State wins a

1957
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Speaker 2: close game twenty seven to twenty four, twenty four to

1958
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Speaker 2: twenty one, something like that. But there's a ton of

1959
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Speaker 2: NFL talent, six first round picks between the two teams,

1960
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Speaker 2: three on each side, and it is a likewise talent

1961
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Speaker 2: also a Pennsylvanian quarterbacking Ohio State and an Ohio and

1962
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Speaker 2: quarterbacking Penn State.

1963
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Speaker 4: Sure a big recruiting day, lots of recruits tomorrow.

1964
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Speaker 3: By the way, speaking of things that haven't happened a

1965
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Speaker 3: long time, Pedro texted me he must have hurt, his ears,

1966
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Speaker 3: must have been burning, and he said the last time

1967
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Speaker 3: that the Niners beat the Vikings in Minnesota, yep, the

1968
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Speaker 3: quarterback was Steve Young, which I find I believe.

1969
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Speaker 2: I mean, thank you, Pedro. Well, we'll pick that on Monday. Yeah,

1970
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Speaker 2: we sure will. Yeah, we're winning big.

1971
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Speaker 3: Come on, you handle your business four and two, come

1972
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Speaker 3: out and mechanically.

1973
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Speaker 2: Kids. Let's go go enjoy your football weekend. Everybody. The

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