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Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is a production of My Heart Radio. Hi Aron,

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Speaker 1: Oh hey, what's what are you doing here? Um? Just

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Speaker 1: here to ask you if you know what's ridiculous? Oh man,

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Speaker 1: I'm so glad you asked. I've been sitting here waiting

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Speaker 1: I think you may have a sense of this as well. Um, Elizabeth,

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Speaker 1: your boy Neil Young he was once in a Canadian

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Speaker 1: garage rock band with a fellow music legend, producer Dave.

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Speaker 1: Do you know anything about this? You ever heard about this? Oh? Um?

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Speaker 1: I saw that they lived together, just the two of them.

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Speaker 1: That helps. And it was another Canadian. This was another

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Speaker 1: This was like in the sixties, the Laurel Canyon Joint.

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Speaker 1: Neil Young was living in Toronto at the time. Um.

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Speaker 1: He was in a band called the Mina Birds. He was,

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Speaker 1: winds up the front man for the Mina Birds. And

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Speaker 1: that young man was Rick James. What In nineteen sixty

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Speaker 1: six in Toronto, Neil Young and Rick James were roommates

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Speaker 1: they had a dream. So I just think that it's

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Speaker 1: just amazing how two degrees away from separated from true.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly true. Someone once heard about this and they

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Speaker 1: asked Neil Young about this, and he had this choice

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Speaker 1: quote and I will just briefly quote, Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: very hazy. Now. I'm glad I made it through that stage.

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Speaker 1: It got a little dicey. There were some drugs going on.

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Speaker 1: Kidding you know. The example he gives about some drugs

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Speaker 1: going on, he says, I remember singing one song for

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Speaker 1: about a day and a half. So there you go.

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Speaker 1: That's ridiculous. Wow, that's awesome. That is ridiculous, And I

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Speaker 1: gonna add it to my repertoire. Fun facts. Yeah, good

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Speaker 1: for bars and family functions, or you know, you're on

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Speaker 1: hold and the like you're just talking to the music,

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Speaker 1: or then the caller comes back and you're like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: before we address my order number, let me tell you

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Speaker 1: something about Neilie. I need to finish the story. I

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Speaker 1: was just telling the whole whole music. Okay, So that's ridiculous. Hey,

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Speaker 1: do you want to know what else is ridiculous? Show dogs?

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Speaker 1: But you know it's more ridiculous than that, running a

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Speaker 1: con in order to fund your extravagant show dog lifestyle.

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Speaker 1: Now there, and let's hope this doesn't turn into a

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Speaker 1: shaggy dog story. I'm Elizabeth Dutton and he is Saron Burnett,

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Speaker 1: and this is Ridiculous Crime, a podcast about absurd and

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Speaker 1: outrageous capers, heists and cons. It's murder free and one ridiculous. Saron, Elizabeth,

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Speaker 1: you like dogs? Dogs? Do you mean DAGs? Yeah? I

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Speaker 1: like dogs. Have you ever had a pedigreed dog? I've

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Speaker 1: had a pedicure. Okay, I haven't even had a pedicure.

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Speaker 1: just really just a pedestrian. Pedigreed pure bred dogs kind

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Speaker 1: that's cool though, honestly the stupidest dog I've ever encountered

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Speaker 1: peeking open a little. You're at a lovely fifteen acre

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Speaker 1: Gray introduces you to her niece, Candy. And you've heard that, Bunny, Bunny, Candynny,

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Speaker 1: if she would have enrolled her. Yes, how did you know?

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Speaker 1: this is all part of the luxury that she's demanding

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Speaker 1: of which is a brand new pink Lincoln Capri and

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Speaker 1: it has air conditioning Zarin. Wait are you kidding me?

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Speaker 1: It conditions the air makes it cooler with a mercury Pontiac.

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Speaker 1: She calls me, Bunny, to come over with all my grands.

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Speaker 1: the cops and the police roll out to Happy Hollow Road,

419
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:42,640
Speaker 1: walk up the walkway. Front doors are wide open. They

420
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 1: walk inside. It's empty, no barking dogs. Mrs Gray's in

421
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 1: the wind like the end of the sting which is

422
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 1: like completely empty. So what had happened? Was you see

423
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,439
Speaker 1: why it happened? As soon as she gets off the

424
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 1: phone with the this, she hangs up the phone and

425
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 1: calls for three moving pans, two for the furniture from

426
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:13,479
Speaker 1: different companies. The checks about to for the furniture and

427
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 1: one for the dogs, just for the whole grip of dogs.

428
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 1: Throw them in a moving They have moving vans for dogs.

429
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 1: Any moving van is a moving van, so they load

430
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 1: up the vans like they get out there. They're just

431
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 1: emptying the place. Um. She goes out to the driveway

432
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 1: hops in that sweet pink fifty seven Lincoln Capri, cranks

433
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:38,439
Speaker 1: up that air conditioning air conditioning saren um and like

434
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 1: peels out candies right behind her in a Mercury station

435
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 1: wagon and then the vans follow the criminal caravans on

436
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:49,160
Speaker 1: its way. Yeah, by the time the cops got there

437
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:53,920
Speaker 1: again completely empty, almost empty. There was some stuff upstairs

438
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 1: and the freezer was full of really fancy dog food.

439
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 1: So they put hungry dogs into a moving van. Like

440
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 1: when they turn the corner to they all slide over

441
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:09,239
Speaker 1: to one side. There's just like drooel everywhere. It's just

442
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 1: a mess. Factor. Do they put pats in. I'm thinking

443
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: a lot of blankets and just kind of what the

444
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,199
Speaker 1: dogs do. Maybe they probably they probably had crates from

445
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 1: the kennel. I don't know. That may be more dangerous

446
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 1: than like than loose tumbling dogs. What if Like they

447
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 1: get the dogs and Mrs Gray picks out the largest

448
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 1: cocker Spaniel and it's like, Fritzie, I need you to

449
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 1: look me in the eyes. I need you to drive

450
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,199
Speaker 1: this van. Are you ready? Pretty full attention? I here?

451
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 1: So Fritzie's got at the wheel and then they like

452
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 1: pop some down to work the petals pekins down there.

453
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,439
Speaker 1: He gets like the toughest one who has to be

454
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,159
Speaker 1: like the boss in the back of the van. You

455
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 1: keep everyone in line. Listen to What's What's the what's

456
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:58,120
Speaker 1: the like onre One's name. Do you think Lancelot? Everybody

457
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: listen to Lancelot, Lancelots the US move move come on

458
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 1: and in in. Yeah, that's what's going on. So it's

459
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,640
Speaker 1: a truck driven by dogs. I like this dog truck,

460
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 1: dog truck, dog truck. So, um, when the cops get

461
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 1: there and it's empty. Who do you think that they called?

462
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: Aside from Ghostbusters? Um? I bet they should have called

463
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 1: Bunny Detective Bunney. She's going to be a may West

464
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: voice now. Um. So they called the FBI. Oh, so

465
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 1: they went to people who might actually solve They knew

466
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 1: it was something way bigger than just like an eccentric

467
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 1: older gal safe and enough bits of money. Interstate crime.

468
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,400
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, So the fees they get to the house

469
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: and they poke around, and it turns out she left

470
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 1: some of her clothes. She left more than fifty hats. Wow,

471
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 1: left more than and like some of them are like

472
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 1: most of them were worth like sixty bucks, but at

473
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 1: that time that's like six dollars today. So if you

474
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 1: just had like this crazy collection of hats, imagine like

475
00:27:55,000 --> 00:28:00,040
Speaker 1: if a shoe beast just yes, that's exactly and and

476
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: so fancy dresses and fors. Meanwhile, back at the office,

477
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,199
Speaker 1: federal forensic accountants are tracing all the money and tracking

478
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 1: all the payments in and out. They calculate all told,

479
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: it appears she has stolen at least one thousand dollars

480
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 1: in today's money. That's just over a million bucks nice

481
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 1: in two years. Apparently she's just straight up pocketing almost

482
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 1: all the cash payments that the patients made. And then

483
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,159
Speaker 1: when the Feds did the math and worked out the

484
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 1: true numbers, it also looked like for the entire year

485
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 1: of nineteen fifty six she deposited into the bank account,

486
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 1: the bank account only had sixty seven dollars. That is

487
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 1: bold surprised that the bank didn't like alert them like, hey,

488
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 1: what's going on your Your deposits have suddenly changed? I

489
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: mean like this is seven. Like money protocols, a lot

490
00:28:56,320 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 1: of fail safes fell failed along the way. Uh also

491
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: be like, imagine there was a small like not small towns,

492
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: but that the banking situation in Atlanta. They knew their banker,

493
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 1: the banker, they knew the doctors, and the most likely

494
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: they socialized. Does this could have kind of come up

495
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 1: with like, Hey, everything going all right with business, guys.

496
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just weird. We're just seeing some discrepancies

497
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 1: now apparently it's just freewheeland. So everyone's wondering who is

498
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 1: this Mrs Janet Gray. I'm I'm right there with the

499
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: top of the list. Who was splinters? Ain't her real name?

500
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: So definitely, Um, she's It turns out she's wanted all

501
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: over for her con woman ways. She prefers the word desired.

502
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: There's there's a burning desire for her to come to

503
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 1: justice when we come back from these delicious ads. Um,

504
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: I am going to tell you who she really was.

505
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: Hey's Aaron, Hey, I'm still here. What are you doing here?

506
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: I just came back in to finish my story. Okay, goodness,

507
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 1: I'm over here waiting on pins and some needles. So

508
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: were I was telling you all about Mrs Janet Gray?

509
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 1: And she fled. She took all her dogs and fled

510
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 1: after fleecing this doctor's clinic and Candy Lane. Yeah, and

511
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: Candy Lane. They're out of there, Hunter Gran they made

512
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 1: off with. So who is she? Her real name is

513
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 1: Margaret Lydia Burton. Margarette and Candy her actual government name

514
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 1: is Sheila Joy Burton, aged twenty. They were related. That's

515
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 1: her daughter, not her niece. Okay, I figured I was

516
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 1: wondering if they were like running a hustle together wherein

517
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 1: they had met and they Yeah, it's interesting. Is why

518
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 1: she's playing the niece instead of just being the daughter.

519
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: I don't know, just probably to throw people off more

520
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: exotic and also more exotic. You sounded richer, uh, And

521
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: I think thirdly, it's just like if you're gonna retell

522
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 1: the story, the gates gives you one step ahead of

523
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: the law. Yeah, exactly. So that's her daughter, Sheila and Margaret,

524
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: Margaret the mom, Sheila the daughter. The FBI starts piecing

525
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: together this history. So Margaret mom. She was born to

526
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: Britt's in China and she married a man named Jasper

527
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: Burton in the Canal Zone in britt Canadian, Australian English English.

528
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: So daughter of Britt in China, born to the end

529
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 1: of foreign service or whatever, right right. They then grows

530
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: up in China. Yeah, Mary is another brit who's also

531
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: an expat or I don't know if he was a

532
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: Brit but he's a man named Jasper Burton, and they

533
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 1: got married in the canal zone. In is that a thing?

534
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,239
Speaker 1: Getting married in the Panama Canal zone. That's where they well,

535
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: I mean I guess it. Mean it's tropical and maybe

536
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: it's ast know. I cann't find anything about it, but

537
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: it sounds fishy. Maybe he was into malaria. You don't know.

538
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: I don't shame malaria. He's like, I like bud bites.

539
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: Mosquito bites just make me feel like desirable. And she

540
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 1: was addicted to malaria, malaria and turned on by mosquito bites.

541
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: It sounds fishy. Maybe they got married into caw zone

542
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: typos and old papers that the little smudges. I'm sorry everyone.

543
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: They got married into cal zone knee deep and hot

544
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: cheese and salt in a in a room temperature Pepperoni

545
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 1: cal zone, the world's largest cal zone. I like that

546
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: way better, Thank you, Dave. That makes way more sense.

547
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 1: So this couple can married into cal zone um full

548
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: of mosquitoes, and she though like they get married. She

549
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 1: leaves Jasper three years later and makes her way to Honolulu, Hawaii.

550
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 1: Now she likes where it's warm. By that time, she

551
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: has her daughter, Fake Candy Land, and she started her

552
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: criminal career in ninety nine in Honolulu. So she embezzled

553
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: money from her employer, a Chinese rug merchant, and then

554
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: she just straight up skipped town. So that was the

555
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 1: beginning of it her origin story. So okay, So she

556
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: skips town, gets on a boat, makes it to the mainland,

557
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: and then just goes I can keep doing this. Yeah.

558
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: So Margaret and her daughter Sheila, they bounced around the U.

559
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,719
Speaker 1: S And Canada. They're running flim flams and the cons

560
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: and the whatnot. Say that will be homeschooling, you, darling.

561
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,479
Speaker 1: She's getting a different kind of education. They're staying one

562
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: step ahead of the law. They go to l A

563
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: and Margaret opens a knitting shop but also manages to

564
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 1: commit grand theft. Yeah. They go to Vancouver. She steals

565
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 1: five thousand dollars from someone there. They go to San Antonio.

566
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: The first step. That doesn't make sense at all that

567
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: she's hitting a lot of places at that time would

568
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 1: have had loose money tourist a transient population. San Antonio

569
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: seems like a miss that same like, she wanted to

570
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: see the Alamo. Well, you know, it's not much to see,

571
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: so short building made of bricks. So she goes there

572
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:10,399
Speaker 1: she goes to the Alamo and she gets she gets

573
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 1: into the whole prize cocker spaniel scene. There this hot

574
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: scene in San Antonio dog scene popping. The dogs are

575
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 1: like walking down the street, run the streets, run the streets. Um.

576
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 1: She did some work on TV there, which is weird.

577
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: The local San Antonio TV I guess, or maybe at

578
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: the time was San Antonio Hollywood East still hasn't been,

579
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:37,479
Speaker 1: never will be. I don't think so. Um. She also

580
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 1: wrote a ton of bad checks in San Antono. Yeah. Um.

581
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 1: From there, she goes to Norfolk, Virginia. Okay, so that's military.

582
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,800
Speaker 1: That's another good place to get lost to the transient population.

583
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 1: And she got her beak wet in the whole I'm

584
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 1: an accountant a doctor's clinic thing, and she stole two

585
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 1: thousand dollars there. So then she goes to Decatur, Georgia.

586
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 1: Where does she get the big score to be able

587
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,479
Speaker 1: to afford the house and the lifestyle that she's putting

588
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 1: on airs with don't know. This is all that they

589
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: had revealed in the press. So the FBI missed I

590
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 1: think at least one crime, or they didn't want to

591
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: disclose it because it was too embarrassing for them. J

592
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: and Cercover was involved. So she gets to Decatur and

593
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: she decides to like blend up all the stuff that

594
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: she's been into so far to one fabulous, decadent volcano.

595
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 1: Con just a froth of lies. This is just bubbling over.

596
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: She In all she had twenty two aliases and Little Sheila,

597
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 1: little Candyland she had nine. So they just were like

598
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:39,959
Speaker 1: constantly rotating through these everything's for sale. I got five

599
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: passports going to jail. So the fans, they get a

600
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: lead from the dog show community, you know dogs, dog people,

601
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: they'll step up. So word was that old Theodore Young,

602
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 1: remember him, came prancing through the room, of course, so

603
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 1: he the word got out that he had this large

604
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 1: number of Cocker spaniels with him up at his kennel

605
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: in Rocky Hill, Connecticut. Yeah, so the FBI moves in

606
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: and they discovered that all but three of the Cocker

607
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 1: spaniels are there at his place in a fancy kennel.

608
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 1: We found our inside man. He gets arrested for transporting

609
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: stolen goods across state lines. Now he claims he has

610
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,320
Speaker 1: no idea what they're talking about. Dogs. I don't know

611
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: where they came from. He's like, I am just actually

612
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: a giant Cocker spaniel myself. Um so, Mrs Gray, he says.

613
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 1: Mrs Gray called him and asked him to meet her

614
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 1: in Greensboro, North Carolina. She needed him to come pick

615
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 1: up a van of dog's. I got a hot van

616
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 1: of dogs. You gotta help me out here. Um. So

617
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: he meets her down there, gets the dogs and takes off.

618
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,919
Speaker 1: At no point is he like, I don't I don't

619
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: like the smell of this in many ways. No, he

620
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,919
Speaker 1: just takes him and off he goes. Um, now I'm

621
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: going to introduce you to another person in here, Myron Armistad.

622
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:11,280
Speaker 1: Myron Armistad. He was appointed as receiver for the creditors

623
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: who were lining up to get paid for goods and

624
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:17,720
Speaker 1: services that Margaret, Yeah, so he was going to auction

625
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 1: off the dogs. Response, what's the net value on the dogs?

626
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 1: How fast can we move these units? But a bunch

627
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 1: of other show dog owners across the country found out

628
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,399
Speaker 1: and when bananas over that, and they claimed the dogs

629
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: were actually there's like I am Sparta kissed. They had

630
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 1: a moment, how stood up those dogs? Those dogs are

631
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 1: mine either? They had like maybe Theodore was training them,

632
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: and then she kind of like she meaning Mrs Gray,

633
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: laid claim to them and said they were hers. And

634
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: I don't know or if I'm a if I'm a

635
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 1: dog owner and I'm not on the up and up,

636
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 1: and I see they're all these like criminally involved conman dogs.

637
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: Perhaps right for the picking. I come in and get

638
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: some pre show dogs. Yeah, I could just like, wait,

639
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:08,439
Speaker 1: those are Lancelot. Lancelot, come over, you whistle some dogs,

640
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 1: bacon in your pocket, but they love me. You think

641
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: this is my dog? You can get at least one

642
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,399
Speaker 1: to pretend to like you. Oh yeah, and you got bacon.

643
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: You got seven dollars, right, that's my prize show dog.

644
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: And then you run away. Um. So Teddy's lawyer, though,

645
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: is like, you know what, no dogs are going anywhere

646
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: until someone pays my client for the boarding costs. And

647
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 1: I'm gonna need ten percent of a dog for me.

648
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 1: She's running like basically like a wag hotel Connecticut, like

649
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: ambient music, nothing but vibes. It's nothing but vibes. But

650
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: it's a huge mess, which I love. I love so

651
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 1: Meyer and he puts together eight pages of asset inventory.

652
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 1: Old Gal left thirteen dresses at the house. Books, she

653
00:38:55,239 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: was a reader, creative mind, um an entire room of dogs, trophies.

654
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 1: She left her trophies. Yes, she's got the trophy makers.

655
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: He's got new trophies to win. She left the fifty hats.

656
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 1: There's no room in the van. She should have put

657
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: at least one hat on each dog, and then she

658
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: would have had thirty hats happy her collection. And all

659
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 1: there's like forty grand worth of stuff at the house,

660
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: but that still leaves sixty dollars unaccounted for, and that

661
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 1: didn't include the money she made on her salary. So

662
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: at the time too, she owes fourteen dollars on her house,

663
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: and she owes two thousand on that sweet pink Lincoln,

664
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 1: and then she owes store credit card purchases just like

665
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: a Mason's and gimbals. And she's nowhere to be found.

666
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 1: So I hope she's on Mrs Juanita head Work enters

667
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: the chat. Janita is the receptionist at a doctor's office

668
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Nita, she calls about a bunch of

669
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 1: hats he's heard about. Hard to have hats down there

670
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 1: for sale, so one need does at work one day

671
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 1: the doctor says, I've hired a woman to help me

672
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 1: do my books. And here this is this woman. I'd

673
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: like you to meet her. Her name is Madge Barton.

674
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: Now her aliases are like when I'm having trouble remembering

675
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:26,800
Speaker 1: the names of these people, Margaret Burton, Madge Barton, like

676
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:31,919
Speaker 1: close enough. And I had a film studies professor once

677
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: who told us about a movie starring Debbie Damore and

678
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: we're super confused until he said, you know the woman

679
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:43,800
Speaker 1: from a few good men, Demi Moore. He meant, it

680
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: happens is the best of us. Okay, So her aliases

681
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 1: are just like slightly off Madge Barton instead of Margaret Burton.

682
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 1: So this woman Madge Barton merged Martin. She seems nice enough,

683
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 1: she's stylish, pretty lady. Um, she took this, said she

684
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: took the jobs in hopes that she could like save

685
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 1: the doctor some money. Yeah, I bet it's also really

686
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 1: good at dogs. She Why isn't she working at a veto?

687
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 1: And I think they would be a little onder because

688
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: because there they would recognize her stuff, you know what

689
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: I mean, Like, I'm just guessing that's not the place

690
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 1: to try to. Doctors are so busy and there they

691
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: as long as things work, they don't really care, you know.

692
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: Like I used to date a girl whose father was

693
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 1: a doctor, and he gave her credit cards when we

694
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 1: were in college, and the credit cards went to her

695
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,320
Speaker 1: the secretary, and the secretary just paid the bill regardless

696
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 1: each month, no matter what she charged. The doctor dad

697
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: had no idea, And she'd be charging like ten thousand

698
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 1: dollars in a month and the and the secretary would

699
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: just sign it just month after a month like this,

700
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,320
Speaker 1: And I was like, how does he never? How does she's? Like?

701
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: She said basically, I would have to like scare the

702
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,479
Speaker 1: secretary and then right now her spending limit had always

703
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: been pretty much when it was secretary never let the dad.

704
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 1: She's just like set up for a life of irresponsibility.

705
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: Exactly what I'm saying is this burden woman's she figured

706
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 1: out the same thing that this girl that I needed

707
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: figured out, which is the doctors are busy and do

708
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: not care. Just but where do I sign? Please go away? Well?

709
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 1: And I would imagine too. I think vets make a

710
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: lot more money now than they did then, probably because

711
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 1: people are willing to shell out a lot more now.

712
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 1: So I mean let's be real. That's rough and usually

713
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: connected to some shady stuff on their own. Like, I'm

714
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 1: just saying like that if you you get shot, right

715
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 1: and you don't want to go to a hospital, you

716
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: go to a vet. Right. Everybody knows this, and everybody's

717
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: in the crime world knows that that's going to operate

718
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 1: in the crime community. I'm just saying, like, if you

719
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: know something, it's like, you know, you know somebody's a

720
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 1: pharmacist and you're a criminal, you keep that in your

721
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: back pocket. You know someone's a vet, you keep that

722
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: in your back pocket. It's a translation, right. I feel

723
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: like if you if I got shot and went to

724
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: my dog's vet, you don't go to your doctor someone

725
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 1: who knows you are and that's like all if your records.

726
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 1: They'd be like they're like, oh wow, look at your age.

727
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: Do you have seen your pet? And s like, no,

728
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: I'm believing that out here. Lady, She's like, okay, yeah,

729
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: was this the hunting wound? We're not taking walkins right now,

730
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 1: We're fair be busy. There's an emergency twenty four. I'll

731
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 1: just tell him I snorted up a foxtail and they

732
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: will get me right in there. Um so, where was I? Okay,

733
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 1: So she says she's going to save the doctor some money. Um.

734
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 1: She didn't have any work references, of course, but she

735
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 1: said her ex husband was a doctor, so she knew

736
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 1: a lot about running a practice from him. Sounds qualified.

737
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 1: And she kind of milks some sympathy out of Juanita

738
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 1: by adding in that they divorced when the husband took

739
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: off with another woman. Yeah. So the two of them

740
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,879
Speaker 1: were working together for like a week, and Juanita, it's

741
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 1: like lunchtime. She's reading the paper during her break and

742
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 1: she sees an article about none other than that Mrs

743
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 1: Janet Gray outside of Atlanta, and it's this. You know,

744
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 1: there's so many press articles, there's so many newspaper articles

745
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 1: at the time about this because it's just fascinating, you know,

746
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 1: extravagant case and a syndicated those stories, good column inches. Um.

747
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: So she reads the description of Mrs Gray and she

748
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 1: looks at the brainy photo and paper and then she

749
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: looks over to new coworking. Then she looks back at

750
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 1: the paper. Silver hair check, freckles check, No, it's not

751
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 1: her campy. She's like, hey, man, did you like dogs?

752
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 1: There's no away it's her. Uh you know, she's like,

753
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,240
Speaker 1: wanted to you're falling for one ear flights a fancy

754
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: again talking to herself. Uh So she goes back to

755
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 1: reading the article. When Marge Burton's daughter walks in Shendy Lane,

756
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:34,320
Speaker 1: she's lazy. She's calling herself Joy Barton. She changed the

757
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 1: last name a little bit. The paper described the daughter

758
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: is a buxom blonde and wanted to looks up and

759
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 1: sees Joy the bucksom blonde daughter of Marge. All right,

760
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 1: has to be her big boobs the doom of a

761
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 1: woman once more. So Unita excuses herself goes to see

762
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: her boss, the doctor. It's like, dude, you are never

763
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 1: going to guess who you hired. He's like, what dude,

764
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 1: It's like bro, listen, okay. The doctor looks at the

765
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: article and then piques out at Marge Barton and then

766
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 1: calls the cops. He's like, oh, yeah, we got a

767
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 1: live one. So the police haul around and she claims

768
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: she has no idea what they're talking about. As your

769
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: that's what everyone does right up until they started to fingerprinter.

770
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 1: And then she's like, all right, look, I'll just tell

771
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,399
Speaker 1: you my real name then. But I haven't done anything wrong.

772
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: I'm allergic to InCor. They arrest the daughter and Um.

773
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 1: She had enrolled in a local business college, so she

774
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: was at least getting age appropriate on it. But you

775
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,320
Speaker 1: gotta wonder what cons was she running at these schools.

776
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 1: I think a lot, a lot, a lot um and

777
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: the two are then charged and sent to Atlanta for trial.

778
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:49,280
Speaker 1: Now the cops, they go to the apartment in Tulsa

779
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: and they find the three missing Cocker spaniels. Piccolo Pete,

780
00:45:55,280 --> 00:46:02,320
Speaker 1: I am not making these Piccolo Pete Capital Gain, Capital Gains,

781
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:06,320
Speaker 1: like she's naming, and then none other than Best in

782
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 1: Show nineteen fifty four Rise and Shine, Rise and Shine,

783
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: also a winner in nine. Piccolo Pete is developed a

784
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: heroin Heavy. Now the gals, they're back in Atlanta. Now, okay,

785
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: so the Feds, though they see Piccolo Pete Capital Gain

786
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: and Rise and Shine, they go into federal custody witness protection.

787
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 1: The girls. Yes, Um. When she was busted in Tulsa,

788
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:40,280
Speaker 1: Margaret told the FBI that she had stolen fifty dollars

789
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 1: in Atlanta. But then she gets back to Atlanta and

790
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 1: she claims that her confession was coerced and that she

791
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:47,720
Speaker 1: only said that to get her daughter out of jail,

792
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 1: and then she said she wasn't given access to a lawyer.

793
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 1: All right, now, what do we think this is true?

794
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,919
Speaker 1: Probably not? Um, you know, she's established that we can't

795
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 1: trust anything she's that's my question. But yeah, so um,

796
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: she's on the stand and she says that, you know what,

797
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 1: I never stole anything, And what was really going on

798
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 1: is that the doctors were involved in some tax evasion

799
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:13,879
Speaker 1: and I'm just the fall guy. They're trying to pin

800
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: it on me. That's not a bad one. That's some

801
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 1: pretty good pivot. Let me. I would definitely throw that

802
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 1: one in their ninety whatever, like everyone's being sexist, just

803
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 1: going to cook up whatever, you can, throw it to

804
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: the wall, see if it sticks. Public is eating this up,

805
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 1: speaking a spatchelor um. So it's just like major trial. Right.

806
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 1: Media is breathlessly covering it. Her socialite friends providing amazing

807
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: color commentary during this. Oh yes, her hairdresser said, I

808
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 1: surely thought she would give them a more exciting chase.

809
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 1: And just what will the lady's in my salon have

810
00:47:55,400 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 1: to talk about now? He's worried about the content. Um

811
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 1: d s estes I don't know the if you know, Oh,

812
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 1: those are just initials. Dsy. That's an interesting named dum

813
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 1: Yes socialite and the dogs set, who had pushed for

814
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 1: Margaret's appointment as Southeastern representative for the American Spaniel Club

815
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: political aspiration. They said it was like picking up the

816
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: paper and reading that President Eisenhower was a spa for

817
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:39,359
Speaker 1: the Communists? What was it? That's a solid analog. Um.

818
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 1: One Sunday, a reverend at the local Methodist church gave

819
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: a sermon and he's just yucking it up. It's a

820
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: lighthearted congregation. He starts joking about the whole trial and

821
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 1: the whole process of it, and he says, instead of

822
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 1: Mrs Burton being on trial for taking money from our

823
00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 1: for physician employers, it appears that the physicians beyond trial

824
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 1: for making that much money. What what does this have

825
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 1: to do with? According to John, is this like the

826
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 1: eye of a needle like camel thing where it's like

827
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 1: we should just be focused on these rich doctors. What's

828
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 1: apparently good Luck's like they're being mean to the doctors

829
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,399
Speaker 1: in this because they're, you know, they're making money, which

830
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 1: means that God loves them more. Hello the Grandfather of

831
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: the prosperity Gospel. So here's the problem with that. Well,

832
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 1: there are a lot of problems, but let me tell

833
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,439
Speaker 1: you the big problem with what he was saying, shounaking notes.

834
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 1: You haven't been up here and up here, okay, because

835
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 1: I'm there's going to be a pop quiz later. Um. Oh,

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Speaker 1: it's not a pop quiz if I announce it. Drat that.

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Speaker 1: So there's a juror named William Pittman. He's out there

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Speaker 1: in the congregation. I wanted to say, audience, he's in

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Speaker 1: the congregation. Right, So jurors aren't supposed to be exposed

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Speaker 1: to the opinions of others during the trial. Yeah, technic. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And the defense finds out about this, and they spring

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Speaker 1: into action, and oh, I got was a member of

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Speaker 1: this whatever, you know. Come on now, don't blame that.

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Speaker 1: Everyone should be, you know, supporting these doctors. They should

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Speaker 1: be really roasting this lady. Um. And so the defense

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Speaker 1: moves for a mistrial because they said that this could

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Speaker 1: affect this presumption of innocence, and the judge agrees and

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Speaker 1: declares a mistrial. No I will not wow. Yeah. So um.

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Speaker 1: Margaret then gets retried in February of eight and on

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Speaker 1: February eighty eight, she was indicted on two counts of

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Speaker 1: larceny and she was sentenced to two to five years

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Speaker 1: in prison. Oh yeah, she did a little bit of

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Speaker 1: time there, don't forget though. She had pending charges in

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Speaker 1: three other states and Canada, so plus on top of that,

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Speaker 1: the government went through with deportation proceedings, sent her back

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Speaker 1: to China. Like China, but she would have English citizenship

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Speaker 1: her parents. So yeah, out of here. You're out of here, pal,

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Speaker 1: What happened to old Cindy Joy? Candy Lane? Let me

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Speaker 1: tell you. I found a PostScript to this whole story

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Speaker 1: in courtesy of the Dicab History Center. According to them,

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Speaker 1: Sheila Joy left Atlanta in September of ninety seven. According

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Speaker 1: to local newspapers quote, her departure ended a chapter in

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Speaker 1: her life that would rival the wildest television drama. She

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Speaker 1: would stay with her uncle on her mother's side, Ian McGlashan,

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Speaker 1: who was a movie producer. Charges against her as an

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Speaker 1: accessory to her mother's crimes were later dropped. Reportedly, she

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Speaker 1: attended college and got excellent grades. Well, she went to

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Speaker 1: prep school like twice um. When she was twenty two,

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Speaker 1: she got married, and it appears that after this period

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Speaker 1: of excitement she lived largely ordinary life when and had

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Speaker 1: one child. Oh, I thought, you're gonna tell me. And

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Speaker 1: that woman now became Mamie van Doren. For those who

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Speaker 1: don't know, she was the fifties starlet like Jane Mansfield

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Speaker 1: and Marlon Monroe. But but we're talking about it's I know, well,

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Speaker 1: it could have happened overnight. She read conn back into

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Speaker 1: maybe I'm not good with math or numbers or continuity

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Speaker 1: of timeline, and girl grew up to be Abraham Link.

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Speaker 1: I go okay with this. Kim Novak, she was the sixties,

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Speaker 1: early sixties better, she grew up to be Kim Kardashian timeless.

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Speaker 1: That's what I want to be when I grow up.

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Speaker 1: So then, also from the same historical history center, they

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Speaker 1: said quote. Mrs Burton was released after serving eighteen months,

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Speaker 1: despite her attempts to fight it. She later was consensually

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Speaker 1: extradited to California to face a charge of six counts

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Speaker 1: of grand larceny, grand theft. Excuse me. She was sentenced

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Speaker 1: in the California courtroom to two and forty days in jail,

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Speaker 1: and on May eighth, to nineteen sixty, she was deported

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Speaker 1: to England. There we go. She returned to California, where

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Speaker 1: she died on October two two in Los Angeles at

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Speaker 1: the age of eighty five. And they should go back

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Speaker 1: to be near her daughter. I guess yeah. That's the

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Speaker 1: story of Margaret Lydia Burton, the canine love and con woman. Dude,

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Speaker 1: respect did it for the dogs, he did. What's your

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00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:33,800
Speaker 1: ridiculous takeaway here, Hay, nothing wrong for doing it for

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Speaker 1: the dogs. In my book, that's what the ridiculous takeaway

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Speaker 1: is that I have a very low moral code. That's

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Speaker 1: what I just discovered. So there you go. I discovered

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Speaker 1: that I'm supposed to like scope out shady vets. Some

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Speaker 1: things go south. My ridiculous takeaway is that it's always

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Speaker 1: best to avoid office work whenever possible, bad paper cut.

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Speaker 1: If you want to pull off along con, you got

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Speaker 1: to do everything fabulous. It's way more fun that way.

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Speaker 1: There has to be a way to get to calm

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Speaker 1: people out of their money without going into an office.

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Speaker 1: That's the Kardashian family rule. How do we com people

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Speaker 1: without going into an office? And then look how well

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Speaker 1: it's worked for you. That's it for today. Um, You

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Speaker 1: can find us online at Ridiculous Crime on both Twitter

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Speaker 1: and Instagram. Got a tip for us about a ridiculous

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Speaker 1: confess to a ridiculous crime, email us a Ridiculous Crime

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