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Speaker 1: But you're a guest to my home. You gotta come

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Speaker 1: to me empty, And I said, no, guests, your own

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Speaker 1: presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff, So

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Speaker 2: To surbey me?

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Speaker 3: Welcome to, I said, no gifts. I'm Richard Wineker. We're

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Speaker 3: in the backyard. I believe the garbage trucks are done

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Speaker 3: for the day. It is garbage day. Believe they've passed

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Speaker 3: through the neighborhood, so you won't be getting a little

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Speaker 3: taste of that today. Unfortunately, I'm having an incredible morning,

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Speaker 3: incredible morning of emailing. What else have I done? I

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Speaker 3: put on some Christmas socks and thought I was gonna

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Speaker 3: realized I wasn't getting away with it. People could tell.

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Speaker 3: So I've switched and now I'm at total ease, total

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Speaker 3: complete ease, and I'm so excited about our guest. Let's

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Speaker 3: get into the podcast. It's Ashley Ray.

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Speaker 2: Hello, I'm so happy to be here.

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Speaker 3: I'm so happy to have you. Welcome to, I said,

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Speaker 3: no gift.

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Speaker 2: I am I mean, I just want to say I

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Speaker 2: am a fan. Oh, you're my favorite. I absolutely love

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Speaker 2: that you have any man doing her theme. Oh, I've

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Speaker 2: loved her since I was like a middle schooler, and

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Speaker 2: it's Lesbian Visibility Week. I feel like that is just

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Speaker 2: so tied to my identity.

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Speaker 3: So incredible, Yeah, I mean she is the Queen's Yeah,

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Speaker 3: the ultimate ultimate person.

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Speaker 2: I think, just such star amongst the Lilith Fair crowd.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, of course, of course. Yeah. I feel unbelievably lucky. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: But it's because she's incredible and the idea of like

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Speaker 3: I've probably said this on this podcast before she was

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Speaker 3: able to come up with the song and probably no

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Speaker 3: time at all. That would have taken me literally a lifetime,

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Speaker 3: yeah years, How do you write a song?

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Speaker 2: And she's just like, I'm ammy man, she's brilliant. Do

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Speaker 2: you play any instruments? I do. I play guitar actually

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Speaker 2: since I was twelve and I played in jazz band

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Speaker 2: in high school and then in college. I was like,

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Speaker 2: I'm not taking this seriously. I'm not trying to be

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Speaker 2: a musician, right, right, but you can fool around. Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 2: I can you know, read music, play some tab.

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Speaker 3: That's I mean more than a lot of professional musicians.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I could get by in a jam band. I

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Speaker 2: would say, like if someone was like, we need Like

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Speaker 2: if someone if I was sitting here, someone ran into

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Speaker 3: I feel like anyone can get away in a jam band.

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Speaker 2: I think. I mean no, I mean that is very true.

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Speaker 3: Actually I'm going to get the jam band audience after me,

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Speaker 3: and it's a passionate crew.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I look, I'm ignorant of jam bands. I'm just going

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Speaker 3: off the little I know. When I'm at a concert

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Speaker 3: and we're jamming, I'm I'm losing patience exactly.

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Speaker 2: I'm an impatient man. I'm a little like, Okay, you're

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Speaker 2: playing around. I get it, we get it. Let's wrap

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Speaker 2: it up. Let's get back to this song that I know.

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Speaker 2: But again, jam band fans, I love you, we support. Yes,

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Speaker 2: everyone has their thing, and you obviously have a they've

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Speaker 2: got bad fish, they're so patient. Yeah, they're nice people. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I've been to a jam bands. They're nice, lovely. It's

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Speaker 2: like a little community. It's glad for them. Have you

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Speaker 2: been to a fish concert? I have, Actually I have

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Speaker 3: That's not am I'm just shitting all over jam bands

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Speaker 3: and you've been to a total of a thousand hours.

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Speaker 2: I truly had a very like hippie phase. I feel

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Speaker 3: What how long is the typical fish concert?

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Speaker 2: Oh? I mean if you're getting there for the pregame,

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Speaker 2: So for this experience to me is and there's people

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Speaker 2: I have friends who would be like, oh, we're going

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Speaker 3: We want to be hot in a parking lot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we want to hear it kind of far away,

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Speaker 3: And so when the concert begins, the nature of and

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Speaker 3: I apologize to truly the planet right now. But I'm

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Speaker 2: Usually yes, yeah, like you know you they they have tracks.

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Speaker 3: They draw you in with something familiar.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're like, oh, yes, this is farmhouse. Here we

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Speaker 2: go I farmhouse I'm a fish, fantastic fish. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 2: that's one of their bigger and you're like, oh, here

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Speaker 2: we are my song, and then like two minutes in,

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Speaker 2: And then it turns into some kind of live jam

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Speaker 3: That's very interesting to me. I mean, maybe I need

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, I say everyone should give it

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I like something a little fresh. I think Beyonce

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Speaker 3: Like a musical, then that could be interesting musical theater.

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Speaker 2: You go and they're jamming, and they're just a little

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Speaker 3: The show is now seven hours long and totally incomprehensible.

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Speaker 2: I might be into that.

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Speaker 3: I know, maybe that maybe we found what'll sun an idea.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we just say Broadway.

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Speaker 3: They don't have to put a casino in anymore. No,

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Speaker 3: have you heard about the casino they may put in.

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Speaker 3: I've heard a little bit. I've heard angry rumblings people

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Speaker 2: The eminem Store, the like the Disney restaurant and hard

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Speaker 2: It's it's a part of New York that I think

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's like, I don't know, it'll be

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Speaker 3: Jam band version. That's important, that is very important to it,

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Speaker 2: People are in the way, people are in the way.

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Speaker 3: Couldn't be us, simply, I mean, what was the last

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Speaker 2: But I just I went to the bike path by

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I had to bring it up, and we should

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Speaker 3: just say to the listener, pause right now, yeah, and

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Speaker 3: Look to your left, to your right, to your back.

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Speaker 2: Are you in the way?

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Speaker 3: Get out of them? By the way, move Are you

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Speaker 3: standing in front of the soda fountain? Get out out

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Speaker 2: I went.

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Speaker 3: I was at home state the taco place recently they

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Speaker 2: Oh I hate this.

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Speaker 3: I'm just standing there whiting. He finally turns around and says, Oh,

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Speaker 3: I'm just really thirsty.

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Speaker 2: What do you think? What do you think the rest

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and a shot. You know, then you have to

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Speaker 2: drive around at that point, just keep it to you.

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Speaker 2: It's yours, it's your house, it's your house, it's yours.

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Speaker 2: It's fine. My insurance will take care of it. But

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Speaker 3: What's that you been your experience at car dealerships, because that,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, they were like, they were like, they

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Speaker 3: This person had no interest in going out for auditions

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Speaker 3: Do you know what I was going to ask, Well,

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Speaker 2: Right? Are we microchipping cars? And so? Shouldn't someone know

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Speaker 2: and if you're a good driver, we'll give you extra

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 2: I also didn't know that meant if my car got stolen,

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Speaker 2: they could do nothing to locate it. Wow.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the microchip, I guess would I be on board

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Where do we get personal micro.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to look into that. You know. I I'm adapting.

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Speaker 3: It's and you're in West Hollywood, so I'm in Silver Lake.

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Speaker 2: That's walkable. Yeah, like they're walkable. Silver Lake is okay.

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Speaker 3: You know I've heard about the little micro bus or whatever.

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Speaker 2: I just like when my car got stolen, a friend

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Speaker 2: was like, well the bus, and I was just like,

435
00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:59,240
Speaker 2: what are you saying to me? Not to I just

436
00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,400
Speaker 2: I've never ridden. I'm gonna be that person. I've never

437
00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:10,240
Speaker 2: written public transportation. And I did take the train one

438
00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:14,719
Speaker 2: time from like not far from Santa Monica to Santa Monica,

439
00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:16,520
Speaker 2: just because a friend was like, you know, you can

440
00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:19,560
Speaker 2: take the train, and I was like, oh, the train.

441
00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,280
Speaker 3: The Train's a different story. In La, it is a

442
00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:26,560
Speaker 3: little like it really does feel like you're underground in

443
00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,800
Speaker 3: a way that's not good. Like whereas like the New

444
00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,080
Speaker 3: York subway or whatever, it's like I can get out

445
00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,120
Speaker 3: of this situation. In La, it's like I'm in a dungeon.

446
00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,280
Speaker 2: I'm in a yeah and too deep and I know

447
00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,720
Speaker 2: this isn't this isn't safe.

448
00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,560
Speaker 3: Earth, right, and no one knows I'm here, Yeah.

449
00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:46,159
Speaker 2: And it's I don't like it, so I know, I

450
00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,920
Speaker 2: know that's bad. And I'm not a real Los Angelino

451
00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,359
Speaker 2: until I get on a bus, I know.

452
00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,240
Speaker 3: But get on the micro bus or whatever it's called

453
00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:55,360
Speaker 3: micro rides.

454
00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:57,320
Speaker 2: Had a car when I moved here. It just never

455
00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:58,560
Speaker 2: came up. But it just.

456
00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,880
Speaker 3: Well, a best of luck to you with this attitude.

457
00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:06,040
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm it's for seeing me to grow and

458
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:07,960
Speaker 2: change in new ways and I'm embracing it.

459
00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,800
Speaker 3: I'm happy for your journey and you need to thank

460
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:11,800
Speaker 3: that car thief.

461
00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:16,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. Ultimately, ultimately, I'm happy I'm becoming more in tune

462
00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,240
Speaker 2: with my neighborhood and my community.

463
00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:21,879
Speaker 3: Well, Ashley, I mean you already brought it up, so

464
00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,280
Speaker 3: we might as well get into it. Here. The podcast

465
00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,320
Speaker 3: is called I said no gifts. Yes I was, you know,

466
00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,520
Speaker 3: I started the podcast on a very high note. I

467
00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,480
Speaker 3: sent a bunch of emails this morning. I made the

468
00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,200
Speaker 3: decision to get out of a pair of socks that

469
00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:35,480
Speaker 3: I wasn't feeling great about.

470
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:37,480
Speaker 2: And ners socks now amazing. Thank you.

471
00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:41,400
Speaker 3: Oh yes, this is actually a decent sock. Thank you mom.

472
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:45,679
Speaker 3: I think she bought these marshals, so good for these socks.

473
00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:49,159
Speaker 3: But you know, I was feeling great, feeling incredible. The

474
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,359
Speaker 3: coffee was hitting in a nice way, and then.

475
00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,679
Speaker 2: You show up. I'm showing a gift, a gift.

476
00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's now in a like a blue, gorgeous blue bag.

477
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:00,760
Speaker 3: Yeahs where it came from?

478
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:02,960
Speaker 2: Which yeah? Yeah, I mean, I will say as I

479
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,680
Speaker 2: brought the bag that the cops returned to me, which

480
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:08,160
Speaker 2: is what I had it in. And you see, I

481
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,840
Speaker 2: my family, we don't do gifts. I've grown up in

482
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,400
Speaker 2: a culture of like gifts are for children, and once

483
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,720
Speaker 2: you hit eighteen, you don't get gifts. I can't remember

484
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,520
Speaker 2: the last time like I really received a gift.

485
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 3: From anyone or just family wise, like.

486
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,760
Speaker 2: Family and my friends because they know that, I think

487
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,359
Speaker 2: they'll they know that I'm more of like an experienced person.

488
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 2: They'll be like, oh, we took Ashley to dinner. We

489
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,880
Speaker 2: got her you know, we went on this trip, versus

490
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:38,159
Speaker 2: like we got her a gift. So I don't know,

491
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 2: and I truly try, but I do get a lot

492
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,719
Speaker 2: of like media gifts because I have like a podcast

493
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:49,160
Speaker 2: about TV's so all, you know, around Christmas, it'll be like, oh,

494
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,119
Speaker 2: TLC had me in their thoughts and they sent me

495
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 2: a robe and some notebooks, you know. But part of

496
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,359
Speaker 2: it was that my mom, like by the time I

497
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 2: hit nineteen, she was just like, I don't know, here's

498
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 2: socks in some sheets and it wasn't even wrapped. It

499
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 2: would just be like, oh, you know yeah, And so

500
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,119
Speaker 2: to me it was like the gift, it's all a

501
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 2: lot of pomp and circumstance, Like we know, this is

502
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 2: just a cultural agreement. You know, let's put away the charade.

503
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 2: Let's like lower the curtain. You want the thing, here's

504
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 2: the thing. I go to a housewarming, Am I gonna

505
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 2: wrap the bottle of wine? No? You know that I'm

506
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 2: bringing this because it's what we're supposed to do. So

507
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 2: I just threw it in a bag. Which is how

508
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 2: all my friends have ever gotten gifts for me? Is

509
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 2: they just like she throws it in a bag, and

510
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,160
Speaker 2: then she's gonna be like, give me the bag bag.

511
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 3: I think that's a healthy attitude.

512
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, So to me, it's I you know, it's what

513
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:45,160
Speaker 2: matters is how useful it is, right and the item,

514
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:49,120
Speaker 2: you know, the packaging that you know, that's.

515
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 3: The cover that look beyond that. So gifts are for children,

516
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 3: and they're all for show. They're useless, they're pointless. This

517
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 3: podcast is for children. It's useless.

518
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 2: It's pointless. You say, no gift. See See, it's like

519
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 2: you would like to just up like let's just be

520
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,159
Speaker 2: real about it. Let's be real, let's be real. But

521
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 2: it's I know what you're doing, but.

522
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 3: No one, no one's not gonna catch me.

523
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 2: See it's a test, it's a test of the social order.

524
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:20,400
Speaker 2: Will you still bring the gift? Even if it will ever? See?

525
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,880
Speaker 2: Should I open it here on the podcast? I think

526
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 2: you should. I think there are multiple items, there's multiple

527
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,199
Speaker 2: items I'm going to reach. Should they come out in

528
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 2: any specific world? No? No, Because I felt like I

529
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 2: as a as a TV person. You know, that's my

530
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 2: big passion. I wanted to gift you with an experience, wonderful, yes,

531
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,879
Speaker 2: of creative experience.

532
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm looking forward to this. I mean, the first

533
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 3: thing I can actually tell I can rarely tell. I'm

534
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 3: holding a baseball cap.

535
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, holding it out. I've got the bill in my hand. Yes.

536
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:11,959
Speaker 2: Oh what does this say?

537
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 3: It's a it's a khaki baseball cap that says, hey, baby,

538
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 3: what's your moon sign?

539
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,439
Speaker 2: What's your moon sign? What is happening with this hat?

540
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:23,919
Speaker 2: I believe that hat came from a TV show, a

541
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 2: reality show where they tried to match people based on

542
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 2: their zodiac. It lasted a beautiful one season, fourteen minutes,

543
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 2: a beautiful just fourteen minutes. But not before they could

544
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 2: send me this beautiful cap and immediate.

545
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 3: Kid, wow, this is I'm gonna just put it on now.

546
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

547
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 2: And I think it helps you feel that creativity, that flow.

548
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:45,920
Speaker 2: It helps to open up the mind. Yeah.

549
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 3: I ran on the back it says struck. Is that

550
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:48,400
Speaker 3: what it was called?

551
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 2: Maybe? Perhaps? And how much of the show did you see? Uh?

552
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:57,160
Speaker 2: You know they did they give me access to pilots? Yeah?

553
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:58,160
Speaker 2: Did I watch it?

554
00:25:58,400 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 3: It crossed your mind.

555
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,120
Speaker 2: It did. I've heard great things, which is a.

556
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 3: Lot more than other shows. I mean, some shows have

557
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 3: never even crossed my mind.

558
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 2: I don't even know they exist. They've never sent me

559
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 2: a hat.

560
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 3: And you can at least kind of explain the basic

561
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 3: premise of this show, yes, which is more than I

562
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 3: can do with shows.

563
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 2: I watched exactly something with zodiac and signs and dating.

564
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,919
Speaker 3: Are you a big zodiac person? Are you into the

565
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 3: I am.

566
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 2: I think that was one of the reasons they like

567
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 2: plugged me with the stunt so because they were like, oh,

568
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,399
Speaker 2: she talks about that on you know, her socials, So

569
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 2: I do know, like Mercury's in retrograde right now? I

570
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 2: know my natal chart. Yeah, I always have a general

571
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 2: sense of where the planets are. What's your son? You know,

572
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 2: I'm a Sagittarius, Scorpio, rising aries moon Libra here.

573
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 3: I can't tell you anything else. A friend gave me

574
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 3: as a gift at one point, a whole birth chart reading.

575
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 2: You know, Libra is all about the pomp and circumstances

576
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 2: are all about the outer beauty. Now I see, Now,

577
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,200
Speaker 2: I see. I should have wrapped the gifts if I

578
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 2: knew I was If I knew I was with a libra,

579
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 2: would have made it look pretty.

580
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,919
Speaker 3: See, wow, we need to start sending that that information

581
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 3: out on this that should be in the emails. First thing.

582
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 3: Bridger's a Libra.

583
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,679
Speaker 2: I mean then I would have made it gorgeous. Okay,

584
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,120
Speaker 2: that like okay.

585
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 3: Wow, okay, so you are into the whole thing. Do

586
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 3: you get tarot done?

587
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:24,479
Speaker 2: I do? Yeah. I can read cards, so usually like

588
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 2: I'll pull a daily card for myself, just something like

589
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 2: meditate on. But like like once every three months, I

590
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 2: go to a professional. There's a lovely girl on Melrose

591
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 2: that I go see. She has a wonderful little store,

592
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 2: and you know, she tells me what's going on. She

593
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:43,679
Speaker 2: helps me get refocused, realigned, tells me what candle I

594
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 2: should give her money for, and it's great.

595
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 3: I love the ASIMR experience of it. I do feel

596
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 3: very cradled when someone's doing my tarot.

597
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 2: It's never hurt me, so it's like, yeah, pay like

598
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,360
Speaker 2: you know, not yet, but I pay the eighty done.

599
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,639
Speaker 2: I'm just like I feel better like it's hurting you.

600
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 2: Every three months well, I mean she uses three different decks.

601
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 2: It's very like, you know, interesting, Yeah, okay, full experience.

602
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 2: Did you pull a card today? I did? I did.

603
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 2: What did it have to say? Today's card? It was

604
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,439
Speaker 2: the High Priestess? Okay, which I which is always means

605
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 2: a lot to because I actually have that one tattooed.

606
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 2: So anytime I get that card, I'm like, oh wow, goodness,

607
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 2: that's what's what's what's the world trying to tell me?

608
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:27,679
Speaker 2: You know? What does?

609
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 3: What is the value of the high priests?

610
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 2: High priestess usually means listen to your intuition, your inner self, like,

611
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 2: trust your gut, what is it telling you? And then

612
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 2: do that? And yeah, I mean I don't really know

613
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 2: how it applies today today, not yes, yes, but it

614
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 2: could come up. Something's gonna happen and I'm gonna go

615
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 2: what what should I do?

616
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, You're going to be like what should I eat

617
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 3: for dinner?

618
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 2: Oh?

619
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 3: I feel like that? Yeah, and then you'll go for that.

620
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 2: Follow the gut. It's just the in just knowing to.

621
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 3: You'll be able to make the decision.

622
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 2: Making the decision. Oh maybe I'll.

623
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 3: Try that today, try to make a decision without thinking

624
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 3: for three hours.

625
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. And a lot of that intuition is how I

626
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 2: put your gift together to.

627
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 3: Okay, well, following my cuts, I've got my cap on.

628
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 3: I'm gonna dip back into the bag.

629
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 2: Let's see here.

630
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 3: Okay, this was like, it's two no items.

631
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 2: These are these are two notebooks. As I said, I

632
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 2: wanted to inspire a creative journey. I know, as creatives

633
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 2: we need, you know, the the ability to express ourselves.

634
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 2: A notebook. It can be so good for that. So

635
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 2: I've given you a notebook from Made for Love, the

636
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,959
Speaker 2: HBO show kind of a dark comedy as far as

637
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 2: I it's a dark comedy that was canceled.

638
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 3: It's been canceled. Yeah, after two seasons. I remember they're

639
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 3: being too.

640
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 2: Good, wonderful on HBO Max and they they sent me

641
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 2: this beautiful media kit that had this notebook that just

642
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 2: makes you think and is open and just blank for

643
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 2: your design an expression.

644
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 3: This is confidential all over it just Made for Love.

645
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 3: I could write my love thoughts, your love thoughts, your

646
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 3: it's it's you know. And then the other notebook is

647
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 3: from the company Zell. And I received this at a

648
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 3: talk that Mindy Kaaling did for Zell.

649
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 2: Big Zell. She is she is, But I wanted to

650
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 2: give you that girl boss energy, so that you know,

651
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 2: when I have open mind, I'm ready to budget. And

652
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 2: so that's what I Yeah, you know.

653
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 3: I could use this for budgeting for budget, yes, yes,

654
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 3: do you know what? I've heard a few people recently

655
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,959
Speaker 3: refer to this company as zelly and I don't have

656
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 3: the heart.

657
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.

658
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 3: No, no company in twenty twenty three is calling it

659
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 3: is going to rhyme with jelly.

660
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 2: LLL. What do they call it? The magazine Ellie?

661
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 3: Like, oh, interesting, that should be my follow up question. Yeah,

662
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 3: do you read Ellie? Yes, that's but then that's how

663
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 3: you get called. What's the difference, Like, what are the

664
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 3: differences between zell and Venmo?

665
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 2: Are you bell? I mean Venmo I prefer Venmo to

666
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 2: me is like the Starbucks of the you know, Cayman

667
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 2: app world. If cash app is like the dollar tree

668
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 2: or dunkin Donuts, you know, like yeah, oh, cash app

669
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 2: is for the people who are like I don't have

670
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 2: a bank account, but I have.

671
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 3: A cash Interesting, Okay, that makes sense.

672
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 2: It's like very android userka Venmo.

673
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 3: The Android user. I'm I mean, I'm on your side.

674
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 3: I'm on the cash app user side.

675
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 2: I have ASP and I and I love it and

676
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 2: I use it. But let's be real, it's a run

677
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 2: to taco bell. Yeah, you know, but venmos flashy, it's classy.

678
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 2: It's in all the apps like already, like you can

679
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 2: pay with Venmo. It's right there. Everybody's got it. Everybody's

680
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,719
Speaker 2: got it, you know. But and when someone doesn't, you're

681
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 2: kind of like, what's that? What happened there? Why don't

682
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 2: you have it? What? Okay? And then Zell to me

683
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 2: feels very boring. She's very like parental. It's like connected

684
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 2: to your bank account. You get into your bank account

685
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 2: in order to sell people, and it requires like an

686
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 2: email or phone number, which isn't very fun, right, So

687
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 2: I only use it. I feel like it's the one

688
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 2: you use for like moms.

689
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 3: It's a very new construction condo. Yeah, it's for.

690
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 2: The people like the boomers who are like I want

691
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 2: to make sure that the money goes to my you

692
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 2: know address, and they want it linked to the bank

693
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 2: account instead of just like in the Venmo money.

694
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes sense. I feel like Venmo ultimately is

695
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 3: the most satisfying. Yeah, are you doing a And I

696
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 3: I hope that the answer to this is the one

697
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 3: I want to hear. Are you doing a public transaction

698
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 3: on Venmo? No, okay, that's what I wanted to hear.

699
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 3: Why does anyone in.

700
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 2: Anyone do that? Why have you not changed the setting?

701
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 2: Why do you not? I always make sure to check

702
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 2: any transaction is it private? Is it just? Why would

703
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 2: I need anyone to see anything I'm doing on Venmo?

704
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 2: I don't understand it, even paying my rent? I'm like,

705
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 2: that's disgusting. Why would I want people to see this.

706
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 3: I'm not doing like nefarious things that I hidden. I'm

707
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 3: just like, why does anyone need this information?

708
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 2: Ever? And it always surprises me with like people I

709
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 2: don't want to see, like whose numbers I forgot are

710
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 2: in my phone? And then I'm opening in it and

711
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, a man you dated for a month

712
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 2: three months ago, like you know, paid for comedy tickets

713
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 2: at the store tonight, And it's like, why do I

714
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 2: need to know that?

715
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 3: It's almost entirely people you never want to hear from

716
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 3: again never.

717
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's just like, oh, great, I'm glad that

718
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 2: he forced his friend to split the bill for popcorn

719
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 2: at a movie. He was always so cheap.

720
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 3: Like yes, yeah, I think I mean standing in people's

721
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 3: way and being out there on the public Venmo circuit.

722
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 3: Both of those things. People need to correct their behavior immediately, immediately,

723
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 3: get with that in any way. It's embarrassing.

724
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 2: It's embarrassing, it's it's gross.

725
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 3: Shouldn't be an option.

726
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 2: It shouldn't. I don't know why Venmo still thinks people

727
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 2: want this right. Let me ask you. Are you on Spotify?

728
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 2: I am?

729
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 3: Is your player public?

730
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 2: It is? But I did not realize it was until

731
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 2: actually somewhat recently. I don't know if you're familiar with

732
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 2: Daisy Jones in the sixth.

733
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 3: Oh frienda I mean, yeah, I'd like to hear a

734
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 3: friend had some interesting things to say about the show.

735
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:12,240
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean, it is absolutely just like wild fan fiction.

736
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,919
Speaker 2: It's like some adult was like, I want to write

737
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 2: a show about Fleetwood Mac, but that's illegal. I can't

738
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 2: get the rights to that, so I'll do something so close.

739
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 2: And then Amazon Prime was like, we love that idea.

740
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 2: Here's eighty million dollars. Go crazy, And I at first

741
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 2: was just like, this is silly. It's the slowest show.

742
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,240
Speaker 2: And by episode four I was like, this is amazing.

743
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 2: It's an everything I've ever wanted in television. I want

744
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 2: a million episodes My Life is Empty without Daisy Jones.

745
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 2: In the six I've been listening to It's about a

746
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 2: band that is based on Fleetwood Mac. And then in

747
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,800
Speaker 2: the real world they did release the album full album,

748
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 2: the full album Aurora that the band creates in the show.

749
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 2: It was released in the real world and I have

750
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 2: been listening to it non stop for date, like I

751
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 2: am obsessed with it.

752
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:04,399
Speaker 3: Is it like fleet Fleetwood Mac cosplays like basically like.

753
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 2: And critics were like, this just sounds like B side

754
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,760
Speaker 2: Fleetwood Mac songs and I was like, yeah, those are good,

755
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 2: like like Fleetwood Mac was a good band and they

756
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 2: were able to replicate a band.

757
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,399
Speaker 3: There's no good the level of quality is b side

758
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 3: Fleetwood Mac. It maybe Ai generated Fleetwood Mac.

759
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like, I know a few Daisy Jones

760
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 2: heads are listening because we roll deep and I'm just

761
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 2: gonna say that, like Aurora to like to like let

762
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,959
Speaker 2: Me Down Easy, the Beatles didn't even have a run

763
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 2: like that, Okay, I'm I straight up tell people they

764
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 2: were a real band now, because I'd rather I'd rather

765
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 2: gaslight the world than myself. Like I've been talking to

766
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 2: men and I'm just like Oh you said you were

767
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 2: into classic rock, but you don't know Daisy Jones in

768
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 2: the six they were huge. They released one mega album

769
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 2: in nineteen seventy nine and were never heard from again.

770
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 3: Wow, who was actually writing the music? I know they

771
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 3: did an it's like an answer.

772
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:09,760
Speaker 2: Yes, a songwriter named Blake Mills. But it's okay. Phoebe

773
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,879
Speaker 2: Bridgers actually did like write for like I guess helped

774
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 2: him write a couple of songs. But credit it's like

775
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 2: a weird war around it. But yeah, she's involved in someone.

776
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 2: She was involved and did some.

777
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 3: Stuffy the studio one day.

778
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, she and like I think a Mumford or son,

779
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 2: like a Mumford son I'm running. I mean, like they

780
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 2: just help to reach the Fleetwood Mac Viress is straight

781
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 2: up just like Fleetwood Mac, like AI mimicking it. Like

782
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 2: you listen to it and you're like, oh, this is

783
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 2: their version of the Chain, and it's just like fine,

784
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 2: this is great. I love it.

785
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 3: I mean, okay, I'm gonna give it a shot. But

786
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 3: then why am I not just listening to the chain.

787
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 2: So eventually you get to that point you listen to

788
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 2: the album so much that you're just like, you know,

789
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 2: what's good just listening to actual Fleetwood Mac Like, wow,

790
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 2: Aurora is so great, but you know what also if

791
00:36:58,120 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 2: I just listened to rumors.

792
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 3: Okay, so you've been listening to it a ton on

793
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 3: Spotify and friends reaching out and so yeah, that.

794
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 2: Is how friends were like, Ashley, do you know we

795
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 2: can see that you're listening to the album from Daisy

796
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 2: Jones in the six Like we thought it was a

797
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 2: bit because I kept talking about it, like on Twitter,

798
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 2: I like fully changed my name to like Ashley Ray Honeycomb,

799
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,760
Speaker 2: which is a little Daisy Jones reference. It got you, yeah,

800
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 2: and there's a little reference. And my friends like, we

801
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 2: thought you were just like joking, But we open Spotify

802
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 2: and it's like every three hour it's like Ashley Ray's

803
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 2: listening to Aurora. And I was just like I need

804
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 2: to change that. I need to turn this setting off

805
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 2: because I guess that's embarrassing because they're not a real

806
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 2: band and it's an album for children.

807
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 3: I mean, I can't I can't be the judge of

808
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 3: any of these things yet. I mean I tend to

809
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,280
Speaker 3: lean that way, but it shouldn't be embarrassing. You shouldn't

810
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 3: be embarrassed of what but I've I've hidden what I'm

811
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 3: listening to because I don't ever want to think about

812
00:37:58,920 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 3: what if somebody sees that.

813
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 2: And now I realize I should have hidden it. I mean,

814
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 2: I'm not ashamed. I'm a proud fan of Daisy Jones

815
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 2: in the six and that album, but it is embarrassing.

816
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 3: It's the musical where it's just like people could be

817
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 3: seeing at any time.

818
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 2: And I see like other people I can't see some

819
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 2: friends who still share their and they're all like listening

820
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 2: to like cool stuff I've never heard of before that

821
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 2: I'm like, wow, like that's Ice Spice. She's cool, she

822
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 2: is cool, she's very cool. But then I'm just like

823
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 2: what they're supposed to see me listening to like Stephen

824
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 2: Sondheim and Aurora.

825
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 3: Like, but they may that might all be calculated on

826
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 3: their part. They may be in their little prison where

827
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 3: they're like I've got to pick the best.

828
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 2: The best and like show people. I'm but I'm with it.

829
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 2: Their life is a living hell exactly, and I opt out.

830
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 3: And you're in there with Daisy Jones and the six

831
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 3: band name. I mean, that's not even close to Fleetwood

832
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 3: mac Well.

833
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 2: I mean, that is a whole part of that is

834
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 2: a whole part of the story is they have another name.

835
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 3: There's like, interesting, what's the other name.

836
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 2: It's like they're the guy's last name, kind of how

837
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 2: like Fleetwood comb their names or something or something. Yeah,

838
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 2: and so their original name is like the Something Brothers. Okay,

839
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 2: well but and then they're like, well, we should change

840
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 2: to the six even though there's only five of them.

841
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 2: It's interesting, I'm smelling the pilot now.

842
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

843
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, well see, you would think that's the pilot. But

844
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 2: the show moves so slowly that it's not until like

845
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 2: episode five that they're like, we should call ourselves the six.

846
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 2: And it's not until like episode eight that they're like,

847
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 2: and hey, guys, we want you to meet Daisy Jones.

848
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,760
Speaker 2: It is the slowest show in the world. Wow.

849
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 3: I hope they get a second season. Otherwise you are

850
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 3: going to be crushed.

851
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,240
Speaker 2: Oh I'm crushed already. It's like the when the finale aired,

852
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 2: I haven't been the same person.

853
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 3: But how do you sustain a show? I mean people

854
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,479
Speaker 3: are gonna expect a full other album. Yeah, with another

855
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 3: series please.

856
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 2: It is based on a book, so it is like, well,

857
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 2: we know what happens, but the book and the show are.

858
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 2: It's a fake documentary. And what people love about the

859
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 2: show is that it's set in like the seventies. You

860
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 2: see them talking about the seventies, but it's set in

861
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 2: like the nineties. Oh, in them in the future. But

862
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 2: they chose to do this thing where they don't age anyone.

863
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 2: Oh interesting, everyone just looks the same. But then they

864
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 2: kind of put some gray in their hair. Boy, and

865
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 2: it's like, was this a budget issue aging though? No?

866
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, otherwise they're in like grotesque grotesque, and.

867
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 2: So they just chose to be like, you know what,

868
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 2: let's just make some of their hair a little longer.

869
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 2: And you're looking at them in the past and it's

870
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 2: supposed to be like they're eighteen, but it's the same

871
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 2: actress playing like seventeen year old Daisy Jones and modern

872
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 2: day Daisy Jones. And it's amazing and it's beautiful and

873
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 2: I love it.

874
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 3: So it just completely disorienting. Yeah, oh wow, well, uh,

875
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 3: Daisy Jones in the sixth.

876
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 2: You know you could actually you should put that on

877
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 2: while you use these notebooks to just like write about

878
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 2: your day, just like put on some Aurora and just

879
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 2: is there a song I should start with Oh my gosh,

880
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 2: look at us now is probably my favorite. Look at

881
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 2: us now, Honeycomb Aurora. The you know, titular track is

882
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 2: also very good. Let me down easy, uh regret me?

883
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 2: That one? Is that?

884
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a cutting track.

885
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 2: Oh it is? It is? You know how there's a

886
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 2: story in Fleetwood Mac about how he like wrote these

887
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 2: songs that are basically like so they mimic that exactly

888
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 2: in the show because it is, like I said, just

889
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 2: Fleetwood macfan fiction int and the lead guy has her

890
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 2: saying this show that's like, oh, you only like kissing me,

891
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:36,919
Speaker 2: like it's better to miss me, and it's very like edgy.

892
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 3: Oh, I will see how I feel.

893
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 2: I think we know how I'm going to feel. Give

894
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,760
Speaker 2: it if you like Smash on NBC.

895
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 3: I never watched Smash.

896
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,240
Speaker 2: That's what other people didn't. Yeah, but that those two.

897
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:53,320
Speaker 3: Where people are like, it's extremely boring and expensive, but there's.

898
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 2: A lot of and for some reason I can't stop

899
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:55,439
Speaker 2: watching it.

900
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm grabbing into the bag again, seeing something here.

901
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 2: It's a leather so this is a laptop case. This

902
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 2: is interesting and it says email is hard.

903
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 3: I've been talking about emails already on the podcast.

904
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 2: And they're hard and they said, and so this is

905
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 2: a little this is nice, Yeah, girl boss, it is

906
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 2: from the wonderful show Hacks.

907
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 3: I mean this is HBO budget.

908
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 2: Then, yes, this is It's like a laptop container. Yeah,

909
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 2: like a laptop container traveling. It doesn't fit any laptop,

910
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 2: I owe, But like I said, it's it's inspiring of

911
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 2: this creative journey.

912
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 3: That I wanted to take you on laptop. We're going

913
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 3: to try.

914
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,240
Speaker 2: I think it's going to fit. Oh this is nice,

915
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 2: Oh my god, very nice. I know.

916
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 3: I'm not fully on board with saying I'm gonna have

917
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 3: to get Yeah, the scratch.

918
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 2: Thing where it's like I would have preferred maybe just

919
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 2: the hack slogo or something.

920
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 3: It's just like a kind of anodyne, innocuous, just we

921
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 3: don't need a.

922
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 2: We don't need to. It's very live left love for

923
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 2: a millennial. Yeah, it's very like millennial live left love.

924
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,879
Speaker 2: But you know, inspiring for the inner girl boss.

925
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 3: I'm always chasing my inner girl Boss. I'm going to

926
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:11,879
Speaker 3: catch up to her one day and then I'm going

927
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 3: to make it in business, makeing it.

928
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 2: And she's gonna turn and say emails aren't that hard

929
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 2: and she's gonna and then she's gonna type And that's

930
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 2: that's what I wanted to get do with. Did you

931
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,919
Speaker 2: watch the show girl Boss? I did? That?

932
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 3: Was that on Netflix?

933
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 2: I watched it binged it in like a day. If

934
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 2: you're not familiar, it is about the rise of the

935
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:37,839
Speaker 2: woman who started the company nasty Gal. Okay, right, yes,

936
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,439
Speaker 2: this is a which like a thousand years away. Yeah,

937
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 2: a thousand years away, And that's one point. Nasty Gal

938
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 2: was like the most exciting store you could buy clothes

939
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 2: from and now it's like owned by Walmart and no

940
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 2: one cares. But like, at a point, it was like

941
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 2: the it fashion thing. And it shows like her rise

942
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 2: to that, which was basically her going to thrift stores,

943
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 2: buying stuff and reselling it at a higher price. And

944
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 2: it is the thrilling story of her doing that. And

945
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 2: it's basically like halfway through you think it kind of

946
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:09,959
Speaker 2: feels like everyone just kind of looks at each other like, wait,

947
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 2: why is this a show?

948
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 3: And no, remind me was it was the title officially

949
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,839
Speaker 3: hashtag girl boss? Or am I imagined basically.

950
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 2: This hashtag girl But I do believe it was that

951
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 2: period of time when the hashtag was being used in

952
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 2: a title. It's hard to admit these days, we don't

953
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 2: like to tell people that, but there was a time

954
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 2: you would just a full network streaming platform, cable channel

955
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 2: would put a hashtag in front of a front of

956
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 2: a title.

957
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 3: Oh boy, I feel like I would actually have a

958
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,439
Speaker 3: great time watching that show now, because there's no way

959
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 3: that's an age twelve.

960
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 2: No, absolutely not. I mean I think at the time

961
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 2: I kind of remember being like, this is a bit

962
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 2: too pass because it's trying to capture that like indie

963
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 2: sleeze era. Oh right, and there hasn't been any media

964
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 2: that's done that well catching sleezes sleeezes.

965
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of in the air on the bathroom

966
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 3: floor and don't capture.

967
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 2: Still capture, And it was just a bit too clean cut.

968
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 2: It wasn't vice enough.

969
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes sense to me. It was a corporate

970
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 3: sleeve which doesn't work.

971
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 2: It doesn't work. It was just didn't get it. But

972
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 2: I do think it would probably make for a fun

973
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 2: drinking game.

974
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I said, maybe I'm going to dive into that's

975
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,919
Speaker 3: my new show. I'm going to be recommending the hashtag girls.

976
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 2: I feel like I wouldn't be shocked if that's one

977
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 2: of those shows. Netflix was like, we just took it off.

978
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 3: Yeah that makes sense. Well I like that. I actually

979
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:39,919
Speaker 3: this and once I get rid of the email is hard.

980
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 3: I'm on the go with this.

981
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:46,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the email that's you know the motivation, right? Yeah?

982
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:48,800
Speaker 3: Is your laptop screen filthy?

983
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 2: It is? Mine is? Why is it so disgusting? I

984
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 2: don't know what happens that so much gets on it.

985
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 2: I tried one of those like screen things that people

986
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 2: like put this on it, but that was just annoying

987
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 2: and it made it hard to see. So I whip.

988
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 3: I just took it off and now it's Yeah, and

989
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:09,320
Speaker 3: I've tried cleaning it, and I think it's made the problem. Yeah, exponentially, get.

990
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 2: Those wipes and you know, but maybe with this case.

991
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, the outside be kind of clean or something,

992
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 3: then I'll be able to crack it open and the

993
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 3: inside will be absolutely discussed.

994
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 2: It's in a very difficult email.

995
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 3: I've talked about this on this podcast before, but I

996
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,439
Speaker 3: think the new thing is using the chatbot to write

997
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 3: your emails for it.

998
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I actually recently had a writing gig where

999
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 2: they encouraged me to use chatpot. It was for this

1000
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 2: weed company and they hired me to write like weed

1001
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 2: shows for a weed streaming channel that I will not

1002
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 2: name because it's not out and who knows if it

1003
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 2: ever will be. It's very like Quibbi weed. It's like

1004
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 2: they wanted to be like the weed Quibbi and they

1005
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 2: hired me to like write shows and content and I

1006
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 2: would do that and then they would go, you know,

1007
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 2: we want to see what the robot would do, and

1008
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 2: they and I would just be like, okay, well then

1009
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 2: I don't know why you hired a person. And the

1010
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 2: guy who ran the company was truly just like inputting

1011
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 2: in the chat GPT like stone or recipe show that

1012
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 2: will attract like ages nineteen to twenty four. What was

1013
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 2: coming out of it? Oh, just the dumbest things you'd

1014
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 2: ever imagine. It would really just be like here's a

1015
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 2: perfect outline for a weed show that would like and

1016
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:26,439
Speaker 2: it would just be like, you should have a young

1017
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 2: woman host who's like attractive, You should have her like

1018
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 2: introduce like strain heavy and specific because you know young

1019
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 2: boys and weed like when it's like this is you know,

1020
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 2: percent baby like and just like absolute like nonsense and

1021
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 2: made up like facts in some of the stuff where

1022
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 2: they would just be like, and everybody knows Joe Rogan

1023
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 2: like loves to smoke this before he blah blah blah.

1024
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 2: And I was like, is that true? I just like,

1025
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 2: can we say that is that true? Do we know

1026
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 2: that Joe Rogan loves to like smoke on wedding cake

1027
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,839
Speaker 2: before he hits the UFC ring. I don't know if

1028
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 2: that's true.

1029
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 3: So what it was producing is the truly the goal

1030
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 3: to be like, now we're producing this thing.

1031
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they would they would like it just reached

1032
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 2: a point where they were like creating chat GPT scripts

1033
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 2: and having me edit them to make sense and like

1034
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 2: fact check it. And then I would come back and

1035
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 2: be like, here's me trying to make sense of this

1036
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 2: here stuff that is stolen from like magazine articles or

1037
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:28,359
Speaker 2: books that you probably can't use. And then they would

1038
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 2: just kind of be like, well, yeah, who's gonna search

1039
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 2: and see that we stole that line from something else?

1040
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 3: Attorneys, Yes, that's the.

1041
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 2: People who are paid to do that as a job.

1042
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 2: Maybe yeah, yeah, maybe Joe Rogan, if you keep slandering

1043
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 2: him with your jazz, that's true.

1044
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 3: Here comes Joey I found a weakness with the chatbot recently.

1045
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 3: I thought this would be a really easy thing for

1046
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 3: it to do. It's like it could help me like

1047
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 3: find fun new songs from different eras or whatever. It

1048
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 3: was like, yeah, tell me so like this sort of

1049
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 3: song from nineteen ninety eight. It would send me fifty songs.

1050
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 3: Four of them would be from nineteen ninety eight and

1051
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 3: then the rest are from truly any era.

1052
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not working. It's not working. Yeah. I would

1053
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 2: try to do useful things and just be like, oh,

1054
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 2: give me a bio of Like I did a piece

1055
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 2: on Monique and her new special and I was like,

1056
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 2: just give me like a quick bio of Monique.

1057
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 3: It's the same thing you got for Joe Broke.

1058
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. It truly was just like made up stuff. Didn't

1059
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:28,240
Speaker 2: have like where she was actually born. It was like, oh, actually,

1060
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 2: we only can tell you about her life up until

1061
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 2: like twenty nineteen. That's all our software, right, and then

1062
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 2: she just stops existing. Well they're not even using the

1063
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,359
Speaker 2: real facts, the real facts. It was just like and

1064
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,720
Speaker 2: her parents were teachers.

1065
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 3: Yeah that's it. She's a very public figure. Yeah, I

1066
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 3: should be able to find.

1067
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 2: It just should be easy for it to just be like,

1068
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 2: here's some stuff about Monique and her latest thing, and

1069
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 2: I was just like what I could just go read.

1070
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:53,879
Speaker 3: Wikipedia, fascinating, what a piece of garbage. Well that makes

1071
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:55,800
Speaker 3: me feel better about our futures for a minute.

1072
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 2: It's not taking our future. It's still about humans, us

1073
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 2: humans writing.

1074
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 3: Yes, the songs, Yes, the important things. Is there anything

1075
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 3: left in this bag?

1076
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 1: Or right?

1077
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 2: There are actually like three more things I got in here.

1078
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 3: There's another baseball carries another We're gonna switch caps mid yes,

1079
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,760
Speaker 3: mid stream here Now it's his documentary plus.

1080
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 2: Yes, this is a cap for the streaming platform documentary plus. Oh,

1081
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 2: I bet that's a good streaming platform. It is. They

1082
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 2: have free documentaries.

1083
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 3: Oh, free documentary documentary. So have you watched any documentaries

1084
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 3: on it?

1085
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 2: I have a few. They They had one that I

1086
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 2: did that was called Finders Keepers and it's about this

1087
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 2: man who had a drug problem. He overdosed and lost

1088
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 2: his foot. They had to amputate it. Uh yeah, Oh,

1089
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 2: and he mammifies his foot and like a barbecue tin,

1090
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,320
Speaker 2: he leaves it in a garage. It gets sold off

1091
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 2: and a guy buys his foot and basically is like

1092
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 2: I'm keeping it and the guy's like, we'll give it back,

1093
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 2: and he's like, no finder keepers.

1094
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 3: And what ends up happening? Who ends up getting Well,

1095
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 3: don't spoiler, I.

1096
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 2: Don't want to go watch. Yeah, and you can watch

1097
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 2: it for free on.

1098
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 3: Documentary Wow, this has really become paid content, you know.

1099
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 2: I mean, which just gifts from my house that means

1100
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 2: much so much to me, from the media companies that

1101
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 2: care about me. Uh and you know, send me gifts.

1102
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 3: We're marketing teams. Their plan has finally worked out. It's like, yeah,

1103
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 3: it was a long journey, a long journey. Some of

1104
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 3: our shows have been canceled, but they're now being talked about.

1105
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:28,839
Speaker 2: It would not actually tell you if this app still

1106
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 2: exists or has gone the way of Quiby a Boy,

1107
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:32,720
Speaker 2: But if it's still.

1108
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 3: Out there Documentary Plus, I'm going to check you out.

1109
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 2: But you know, to inspire you along this journey to

1110
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:40,959
Speaker 2: create Yeah, you know, to see more of the human

1111
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:42,760
Speaker 2: experience with documentary Plus.

1112
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 3: And this is this one to me feels a little

1113
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 3: bit easier to wear in public. Yeah, it's not like

1114
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 3: kind of picking up with the baby.

1115
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, that one's a little addressed.

1116
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 3: That's for a sexier outing for me. Yeah, this is

1117
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 3: when I'm at the live.

1118
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:58,359
Speaker 2: It's very cool. And I think at one point they

1119
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 2: posted a picture of Katie Perry it too, So that's.

1120
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 3: That's Katie watches document Yeah kat Watch is interesting, right? Okay,

1121
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 3: which do you think I look better?

1122
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 2: I like the documentary class that has like this nice

1123
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 2: little pop of pink that really goes Okay, I'm not

1124
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 2: seeing something else. And here's Made for this Isn't Made

1125
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 2: for Love candle? Oh do you know what it smells like? Oh,

1126
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 2: it's really nice. It's like a vanilla ish. Uh oh,

1127
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 2: that's a pleasant can, really nice candle. It's not a

1128
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 2: it's not overbearing right, nice clean sense. It's a nice, clean,

1129
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 2: pretty scent, you know. So you can light it, you

1130
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 2: can set a mood, you can write just see. Like

1131
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:39,800
Speaker 2: I said, there's a creative experience and journey this gifts.

1132
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:41,839
Speaker 3: So yeah, what was like? What was how does this

1133
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 3: tie into Made for Love? Isn't that show about?

1134
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 2: Actually?

1135
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 3: I have no idea.

1136
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 2: It's about like a fake Google company that like has

1137
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 2: ai that like takes over people's brains. Okay, so that

1138
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 2: like if someone loves you, they can be like I

1139
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 2: want to merge our brains in our every thought. And

1140
00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 2: this guy is like, that's a good idea for love.

1141
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 2: But then this other woman that everyone else is like, no,

1142
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 2: like because people should have privacy. And then but a candle,

1143
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 2: I don't know, actually.

1144
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 3: A clear tie in.

1145
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 2: It's a a clear, clear tie in. But for the

1146
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 2: you know, with the notebooks lighting the candle, maybe it

1147
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 2: makes the emails less hard. It's all an experience.

1148
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 3: I'm going to try to utilize every one of these

1149
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 3: objects at once. Oh please, I have a complete mental breakdown.

1150
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:28,839
Speaker 2: And and I mean the last one. I think there's

1151
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:29,359
Speaker 2: one more.

1152
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 3: Oh, it's kind of a little like jewelry boxy box. Yes, yes,

1153
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 3: this is where we begin to be engaged.

1154
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 2: Let's stay here.

1155
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 3: I'm opening oh.

1156
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 2: Gorgeous, gorgeous little diamond jewel necklace that came to me

1157
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 2: from a media kit for a CW show that I

1158
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 2: don't know, maybe was based on like Pretty Little Liars

1159
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 2: or something, I don't know, some TV show where like

1160
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,319
Speaker 2: there's a girl who has a necklace and she ends

1161
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,240
Speaker 2: up dead and this is a version of that necklace.

1162
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 3: Well, it's a gorgeous necklace. I would kill for this

1163
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:04,760
Speaker 3: thing exactly.

1164
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 2: I just had to host one hundred and fifty episodes

1165
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 2: of a podcast to get it exactly. I'm gonna and

1166
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 2: so it's based on this young girl and uh, it's

1167
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:15,799
Speaker 2: it's a replica. I don't know the name of the

1168
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 2: show on Atlas.

1169
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 3: We put this on me on Alys is gonna Yes, wow,

1170
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 3: I feel so.

1171
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 2: It's gorgeous. It's it's a little and it's very like

1172
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 2: because this is a show about teens, it's the CW.

1173
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 2: So it is very like a teen esque.

1174
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:29,760
Speaker 3: Yes, it looks like a Claire's product.

1175
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 2: Yes, it is very like a giant just butterflies.

1176
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:34,320
Speaker 3: Oh, it's a joker.

1177
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 2: Actually, I want to it's kill you.

1178
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna be able to. I don't know if.

1179
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 2: It's a joker, if it's meant for like a teenage girl.

1180
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 3: Teenage TV blugger or something. Yeah, it fits, but it

1181
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 3: is there is.

1182
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's definitely gonna be some like seventeen year old

1183
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 2: out there who's very very jealous that you have the

1184
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 2: necklace from like Ghost Spirits High or something. Wow, And

1185
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 2: what is this little thing? It's a it's like a butterfly,

1186
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:03,879
Speaker 2: butterfly little she's a little butterfly. It looks like.

1187
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 3: Wow, I feel so elegant, honestly look altogether but a

1188
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 3: unique look. No one will be able to get this

1189
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 3: exact look anywhere.

1190
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 2: No, no, unless they are very very close with the

1191
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 2: PR departments of c W, t LC and HBO Max.

1192
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 3: I need to get on these mailing lists for these

1193
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 3: shows garbage.

1194
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 2: There are the gifts that people give me and I

1195
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 2: and I love it as I don't get gifts in life,

1196
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,359
Speaker 2: but these you're getting all sorts of things, you know,

1197
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 2: are the gifts that what were the most valuable thing,

1198
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 2: like most useful thing you've actually gotten from this actually

1199
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 2: made for love that was a gigantic media case you retail.

1200
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 2: They sent me an or ring which is basically like

1201
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 2: a fitbit ring that like tracks your heartbeat and your

1202
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:51,439
Speaker 2: calories and everything. Yeah, they're very expensive, and they gave

1203
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 2: it to me in like a free year subscription. Uh.

1204
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 2: And they gave me this like one of those projector

1205
00:55:56,800 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 2: starlights for your room that like does the ASMRX experience.

1206
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 2: Those were like the.

1207
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:06,919
Speaker 3: Most that's fancy. They have the money budget, yeah, pour

1208
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 3: it into everything. The hacks budget was also very good.

1209
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 3: They gave me like shot glasses, a bottle of like whiskey.

1210
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:14,479
Speaker 2: Do they all say email it is hard, yes?

1211
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 3: Is that true?

1212
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 2: No? Some of them weren't even word There was like

1213
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:21,800
Speaker 2: a pillow that said, like, uh, scream.

1214
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 3: Here, and I was like, I can't imagine the people

1215
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 3: behind hacks are happy with with the There's no chance.

1216
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 2: It didn't line up with what I show, but it,

1217
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 2: you know, it was very girl boss energy.

1218
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 3: It's yeah, I mean beyond, but I'm I'm happy to

1219
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 3: own it. This is my new persona. I'm the girl

1220
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 3: Boss exactly. It's going to stand in my.

1221
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 2: Way at the end of the day. That is what

1222
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 2: I wanted this gift to represent, is that girl boss

1223
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 2: believe in your self energy. I have, yes, right, budget it,

1224
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 2: write it, and achieve it. The email is hard. Send

1225
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 2: it anyway?

1226
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 3: Oh millennial dialogue? Do you know what I think? I

1227
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 3: don't know if it's millennials or gen Z, but I

1228
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 3: think iconic is gen Z's.

1229
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 2: Literally yes, yeah, does that make sense? I think it

1230
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 2: feels like it lines up. Millennials did literally ruined literally,

1231
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 2: we ruined literally literally I literally you know, and they

1232
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 2: are just iconic. It's chic, She's iconic, and it's like, really.

1233
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, interesting way we just grind words into dust, like.

1234
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 2: I've gone out looking like shit, and I'm on some

1235
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 2: you know, comedy lineup with like a twenty three year

1236
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 2: old who's just like Carob, you like iconic, and I'm

1237
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 2: just like, I don't we don't need to patronizing me.

1238
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 2: What's going on?

1239
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, I have so many gifts for my future breakdown.

1240
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 3: I'll be wearing two hats, my choker, I'll have the candle,

1241
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 3: and I'll be writing in two different notebooks. I'll do

1242
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 3: my drafts of my emails in the note.

1243
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 2: In the notebooks. Transfer yes, chat GPT, have it chat,

1244
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 2: have it, do it, go through and that makes it

1245
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 2: a little easier. And then you have the energy of

1246
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 2: the ghosts. Girl Necklace and Daisy Jones had a deafening volume.

1247
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, you get Aurora playing and let me

1248
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 2: you get stuff done. It's such a good album, though

1249
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 2: I know that people keep saying it's fake and chill,

1250
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 2: but it's really good.

1251
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 3: I'm so curious now people.

1252
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 2: My friends, it's like kids Bob music. It's not. It

1253
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 2: is like adult music. It's just a fake band.

1254
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 3: I wonder how that would have reviewed had it been

1255
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 3: just released into the wild without the TV show.

1256
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 2: The TV show and I think it would have gotten

1257
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 2: like ten out of ten on Pitchfork, and I think

1258
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 2: it would have been like the biggest thing in the

1259
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 2: world and everyone would have been like, oh my god,

1260
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 2: we're shocked. But people want to hate just because it

1261
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 2: comes from a TV show.

1262
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 3: That was Amazon's big mistake. They should have released that

1263
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 3: before the show came out, exactly. Put the feathers out there. Yeah, okay,

1264
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 3: it's time to play a game. Yes, we're gonna play

1265
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 3: a game called Gift to a Curse. I need a

1266
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 3: number between one and ten from you.

1267
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 2: Eight.

1268
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 3: Okay, I have to do some light calculating right now.

1269
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 3: You can recommend, promote, do whatever you want with the microphone.

1270
00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:59,479
Speaker 2: Well, if you like all of this TV talk, feel

1271
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 2: free to listen to podcast TV I say with Ashley Ray,

1272
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 2: where I talk about most of the shows that send

1273
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 2: me media kids and shows that don't send me media

1274
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 2: kids even you know, if it's good enough, and I

1275
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 2: talk a lot about Daisy Jones and the Six, which

1276
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 2: again I just I'm glad you at least had heard

1277
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 2: of it. It's a really good album. I mean, if

1278
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 2: they're my friends, like, you're not even gonna listen to it?

1279
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 2: In a few months. Guess what, I'm still listening to it.

1280
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 2: I was listening to it on the drive here. It

1281
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 2: just it's it sounds like Fleetwood mac Blea sides. I

1282
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 2: don't know why we're mad about that. That's yeah. Wow,

1283
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 2: oh interesting.

1284
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 3: We did not expect the Uh, Daisy Jones, tous Daisy Jones,

1285
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 3: you owe both of us. Yeah, Daisy Jones herself should

1286
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 3: come on the podcast, honestly.

1287
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, amazing, amazing gifts.

1288
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:50,440
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, this is how we played the game.

1289
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:52,920
Speaker 3: I'm gonna name three things. You're gonna tell me if

1290
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 3: they're a gift or a person why, and then I'll

1291
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 3: tell you if they're correct, or if you're correct or

1292
00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 3: not right answer of course, yeah, okay. The The first

1293
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 3: thing is from somebody, a listener named Katie. She suggested

1294
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 3: gift to a curse when your therapist has a large TikTok, following,

1295
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 3: oh curse, why absolute curse. You can't take someone seriously

1296
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 3: who uses TikTok. You can't get advice in life from

1297
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 3: someone who uses TikTok. They've already made a mistake. They

1298
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 3: use TikTok.

1299
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 2: And not only that, not in like a way we

1300
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 2: all use it where we just have an account that

1301
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 2: we just kind of don't really use, or we just

1302
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 2: like promote stuff, but we're mostly like looking at people

1303
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:30,439
Speaker 2: create content. They have a following, so that means they're

1304
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 2: good at it, and that's not okay. If someone that's not.

1305
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 3: Okay, they're using part of their time too, yeah, to get.

1306
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:40,480
Speaker 2: Good at TikTok, and that doesn't sit well with me,

1307
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 2: And that means they're probably gonna use you for content

1308
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 2: at some point, Like they're definitely talking about you in

1309
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:48,479
Speaker 2: some kind of like like I don't know, group chat

1310
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:50,920
Speaker 2: TikTok of other therapists being like this person.

1311
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 3: Sucks, actually wrong. Every professional in your life should have

1312
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 3: a large TikTok following. It's the only way we can

1313
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 3: freely know they're good. Your doctor, your therapist, a nail girl,

1314
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 3: your nail girl, your dentist, your mechanic. If they don't

1315
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 3: have a large TikTok following, drop them, Drop them as

1316
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 3: soon as possible.

1317
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 2: You know what, You're right.

1318
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:16,920
Speaker 3: They should have the charisma to have a million followers

1319
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 3: on TikTok.

1320
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 2: And their advice should be so good that people want

1321
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 2: to follow them.

1322
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 3: Yes, I mean everything you see on TikTok. You should

1323
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 3: follow you should disgusting recipes, the you know, little dances.

1324
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 3: I see nothing wrong with this. It's a gift. It's

1325
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 3: absolutely a gift.

1326
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. Now that, now that I see it in perspective,

1327
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:40,440
Speaker 2: I change my mind and I see, I see.

1328
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 3: The gifts beautiful. I'm glad that you're being flexible and

1329
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 3: fluid here. That's a good quality. Okay, number two, so

1330
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 3: you've gotten one wrong. That's fine, It's okay, it's okay.

1331
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 2: Number two.

1332
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 3: This is from somebody named Kelsey. Gift or a curse

1333
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 3: leaving the foil lid on the cream cheese after it's

1334
01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 3: already been open.

1335
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 2: Oh oh, this one's a little difficult. I I'm going

1336
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 2: to go with curse because I feel like you can

1337
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 2: never You now know that people do that, They never

1338
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:14,640
Speaker 2: get all of the cream cheese off of the foil,

1339
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 2: so then it gets hard and crusty on that part,

1340
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 2: So then it's touching the like fresh cream cheese that

1341
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:23,720
Speaker 2: like has it's still in the bottom. So I feel

1342
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 2: like it's it seems like it's a carrying move, but

1343
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 2: it actually degrades the experience.

1344
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:32,920
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, And you're absolutely correct, Thank you. You've got

1345
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:34,480
Speaker 3: to get that out of there. You've got to get

1346
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:35,919
Speaker 3: that filthy little piece of metal.

1347
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 2: It's there. It's literally just there to be like, remove me, right.

1348
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:41,920
Speaker 3: It's getting touched by your fingers every time you go

1349
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 3: for the cream cheese. The bacteria, it's a playground for disease.

1350
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 2: It's disgusting.

1351
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 3: It's absolutely should not be anywhere near that dairy product

1352
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:50,800
Speaker 3: after it's been open.

1353
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like I say, it gets all crusty. It's crass.

1354
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 3: You're right, and I understand the it's kind of fun

1355
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 3: to leave it there, and it feels like you're protecting

1356
01:02:57,600 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 3: the cream chees.

1357
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:00,200
Speaker 2: It's nice to be able to pick a lot. What

1358
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 2: are you protecting it from? Yeah, you've got the plastic lid. Yeah,

1359
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 2: that's what the plastic is there for. Right, I mean,

1360
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 2: let's see.

1361
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess unless they're talking about they couldn't possibly

1362
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 3: be talking about the bars of cream cheese. Garbage trucks.

1363
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:15,280
Speaker 3: How many are we having through their neighborhood today. It's

1364
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:16,960
Speaker 3: a garbage celebration.

1365
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 2: I know, that would be that would be crazy, yeah,

1366
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 2: because those are like that has to be in the foil,

1367
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 2: there's no other Yeah.

1368
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we're talking about the round thing. Yeah,

1369
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 3: the little plastic container. It's a curse. Kelsey, You've got

1370
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 3: your answer, yea and excellently played. Okay, final question here,

1371
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 3: Cindy has suggested gift or a curse. Grandparents are taking

1372
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 3: on the rolls of flower girl and ring bearer at weddings.

1373
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:48,760
Speaker 2: Oh you know what, I'm trying to be a more

1374
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:53,600
Speaker 2: positive person, a more open and accepting person. So I'm

1375
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 2: gonna go gifts. Okay, why I'm gonna go gift? That

1376
01:03:57,240 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 2: could be sweets grandma and grandpa. It could be sweet

1377
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 2: and not patronizing and and fantilizing. It could that could

1378
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 2: be done in a cute way. Okay, I don't know.

1379
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 2: It feels like very I don't know, like an episode

1380
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 2: of the Office. Like it just it warms my way

1381
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 2: in a way. Where is it? It's like, is it twenty eleven?

1382
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 2: Like I you know, it feels very Obama era something

1383
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 2: about that. I like that.

1384
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, well you're wrong.

1385
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:29,960
Speaker 2: Oh they're taking jobs away from other people.

1386
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:33,400
Speaker 3: Grandparents have another thing to do a weddings. I assume

1387
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 3: I don't know what they're you know, they float around

1388
01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 3: and do their thing.

1389
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1390
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:42,960
Speaker 3: Also, it's maybe they don't want to be put to work. Maybe,

1391
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 3: you know, they can't say no.

1392
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:49,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, so the it's also not like it's a hard job.

1393
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 2: I would say maybe the two easiest jobs, which is

1394
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 2: why they're often given to children and babies and and dogs.

1395
01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:58,600
Speaker 3: Both they sound physically taxing to me.

1396
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean caring objects walking. I feel like I

1397
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 2: would give grandparents the same the way I give a child.

1398
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 2: You know, like when there's a little girl who just

1399
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:10,439
Speaker 2: dumps all the flowers at once and then just goes

1400
01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 2: and sits down. I would be fine with that.

1401
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:15,560
Speaker 3: Okay, that I mean that I could be on board

1402
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 3: with a yeah grandma just dumping things on the ground.

1403
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:21,040
Speaker 2: Dumping it and like I did it, you know, Or

1404
01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:22,800
Speaker 2: like when it's like the dog who has the ring

1405
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:24,440
Speaker 2: and it just like kind of walks up there but

1406
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 2: never really makes it all the way and finally the

1407
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 2: groom is just like it ah, yeah, and just like

1408
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:28,800
Speaker 2: gets the ring.

1409
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:32,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, Grandpa swallows the ring. Okay, but you're not convincing me.

1410
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:35,440
Speaker 3: You you got one out of three? Okay, did not

1411
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 3: fail the game? Well you did fail the game. Yeah,

1412
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 3: do not fail it completely, which feels amazing.

1413
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:42,280
Speaker 2: But yeah, that feels good. It still feels good. It

1414
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 2: still feels good.

1415
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 3: Your garbage day is not ruined, well decently played. Yeah,

1416
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:49,720
Speaker 3: we had a nice, level headed conversation. Neither of us

1417
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 3: got mad.

1418
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:52,480
Speaker 2: And I do see your point on those issues. I

1419
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:55,560
Speaker 2: en retro. Yeah, they're stealing jobs from children. Ye, and

1420
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:59,480
Speaker 2: as someone child labor exactly. Yeah.

1421
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 3: I feel like there's some state that's currently trying to

1422
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 3: get children working.

1423
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:04,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, like Tennessee. Probably.

1424
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:07,600
Speaker 3: I feel like you are Kansas Sciences, and I don't.

1425
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 3: I don't want to trow in Texas. It is one

1426
01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:12,280
Speaker 3: of those. It's a state that's making the wrong choice.

1427
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 3: That's ultimately the problem here. Okay, we're at the final

1428
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:18,919
Speaker 3: segment of the podcast. I said no emails. People write

1429
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 3: into I said no gifts at gmail dot com with

1430
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:25,440
Speaker 3: their questions. My listeners have questions. I'll leave it at that.

1431
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:28,680
Speaker 3: They've got questions, galore, Will you.

1432
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:30,480
Speaker 2: Help me answer something? Absolutely?

1433
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 3: Okay, let's see here. This says, dear Bridger and beloved guest.

1434
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 3: My mother loves and that's very nice. My mother loves

1435
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:40,920
Speaker 3: to buy me presents, which is very sweet. The problem

1436
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:42,960
Speaker 3: is that everything she buys for me is something I

1437
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 3: would have never picked out for myself. And more often

1438
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 3: than not, the gifts are just just lay around unused.

1439
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:50,919
Speaker 3: I don't have the heart to tell her I don't

1440
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:53,040
Speaker 3: like them, so I just say thank you and change

1441
01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 3: the subject. How do I get her to stop wasting

1442
01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:58,840
Speaker 3: money on things I'll never wear or use? Thanks in

1443
01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 3: advance for helping me out with my predicament. And that's

1444
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:07,640
Speaker 3: from Jess. She day, Jess, Jess is, I hate to

1445
01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:09,800
Speaker 3: say it a horrible child.

1446
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:12,840
Speaker 2: I mean that, that is what I wanted to say immediately.

1447
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:17,520
Speaker 2: To be thankful to your mother, your mommy, your mama,

1448
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:20,440
Speaker 2: I mean my mom. Like I said, stop giving me gifts.

1449
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 2: The moment I turned eighteen, she was just like, here

1450
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:25,959
Speaker 2: socks enjoy. So maybe you get to know your mom.

1451
01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 2: Let your mom know you so she can know what

1452
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 2: to get you.

1453
01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:32,240
Speaker 3: I think there's a great distance between Jess and mom

1454
01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:35,040
Speaker 3: and mom and Jess refuses to do the work to

1455
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:39,320
Speaker 3: bridge that ga gap. And this was like an opportunity

1456
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:42,320
Speaker 3: for both Jess and mom to maybe do some to

1457
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:43,280
Speaker 3: go out on some dates.

1458
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, go out together, go to the TJ Max together

1459
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:47,919
Speaker 2: and tell your mom, no, no, no, no, I don't

1460
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 2: want the pillow that says email is hard. You know

1461
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:52,200
Speaker 2: that's not my style.

1462
01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:55,160
Speaker 3: Mom, get in a fight with your mom at ross.

1463
01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:59,080
Speaker 2: For us, that's oh, that's where relationships are just strengthened

1464
01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 2: and built. That's you know, Yeah, you forge it in

1465
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:07,520
Speaker 2: the fire. Yeah, you're at Marshalls. You're screaming. You don't

1466
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 2: know anything about me, You don't know me. This is

1467
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:13,160
Speaker 2: my stay. That's where you really you know, yeah, fortune fire,

1468
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:15,560
Speaker 2: or if you want to be really passive aggressive, just

1469
01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:17,920
Speaker 2: start regifting the gifts she gives you back to your

1470
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:21,600
Speaker 2: mom and making it clear you never used it and

1471
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:22,680
Speaker 2: did not like it.

1472
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 3: Somehow find a way to make it look even newer

1473
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:25,800
Speaker 3: than when she gave it.

1474
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 2: To you, you know, like really wrap it up really nice,

1475
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:30,840
Speaker 2: like just even beyond what she did, and then just

1476
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:33,519
Speaker 2: give it back and just don't even act like you know,

1477
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:34,759
Speaker 2: you've ever seen it before.

1478
01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:36,760
Speaker 3: I mean, there is the chance that that means that

1479
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 3: Jess is just playing into Mom's game and Mom bought

1480
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:41,760
Speaker 3: this knowing full well that was coming back.

1481
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:44,000
Speaker 2: It was coming back, which could be the long con here.

1482
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:46,640
Speaker 3: But I'm on Mom's side anyway, I'm not I'm not

1483
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:51,840
Speaker 3: a fan of Jess. Yeah, she's a horrible child, you know.

1484
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:55,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit it's kind of like I get,

1485
01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:57,120
Speaker 2: but if your mom didn't want to spend the money,

1486
01:08:57,200 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 2: she wouldn't end. Yeah, you know, say thank you, Say.

1487
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:04,040
Speaker 3: Thank you, and maybe grow as a person. Use the

1488
01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:06,920
Speaker 3: things that you don't like, force yourself to use things

1489
01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:07,360
Speaker 3: you don't know.

1490
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:10,280
Speaker 2: There's a use for everything. My mom gets me an

1491
01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:14,160
Speaker 2: ugly shirt or something, or you know, media company sends

1492
01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:17,559
Speaker 2: me a hoodie for a show that got canceled three

1493
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:20,080
Speaker 2: years ago, and I go, well, this is what I'm

1494
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 2: gonna you know, clean my house in. This is a

1495
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:24,760
Speaker 2: perfect shirt for garden work.

1496
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 3: Also, a big T shirt like that can be used

1497
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:29,280
Speaker 3: to mop up dust.

1498
01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:35,120
Speaker 2: Yes, love that use. If you're mailing something, you can

1499
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:38,080
Speaker 2: use it to stuff a package. You can.

1500
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:41,960
Speaker 3: You can truly anything. I was gonna say to scare

1501
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:43,800
Speaker 3: away birds, and I don't know where we were going

1502
01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:46,280
Speaker 3: with that. I guess make a scarecrow does make a scarecrow.

1503
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:49,080
Speaker 2: So whip a cloth at someone at a bird.

1504
01:09:49,280 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 3: Yes, Jess, you have your answer. I hope that's what

1505
01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:53,800
Speaker 3: you were looking for.

1506
01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:54,600
Speaker 2: And I assume it was.

1507
01:09:54,840 --> 01:09:58,479
Speaker 3: I think that's exactly what Jess expect And so we

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01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:02,639
Speaker 3: did an excellent job. Ashley, what a wonderful time I've

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01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:03,160
Speaker 3: had with you.

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01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:05,160
Speaker 2: This was so fun. I've got two hats.

1511
01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 3: I've got my gorgeous jewelry, two note book handle, notebooks, leather,

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01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:13,200
Speaker 3: thing that could ruin my reputation if I go out

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01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:17,160
Speaker 3: with it. Saying email is hard. I'm ready to live

1514
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:17,639
Speaker 3: a new life.

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01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:20,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's like I said, A new creative journey,

1516
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:24,400
Speaker 2: a new process to open yourself centered around the girl

1517
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:25,360
Speaker 2: Boss experience.

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01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:30,920
Speaker 3: The girl Boss is my sun and moon exactly. Thank

1519
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 3: you for being here, Thank you for having me listener. Wow,

1520
01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:37,400
Speaker 3: the episode's over. We're screeching to a halt. You got

1521
01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:39,880
Speaker 3: to hear the garbage can that was more than you

1522
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:43,519
Speaker 3: bargained for and or not the garbage can the garbage truck.

1523
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:47,839
Speaker 3: See again, I'm losing losing my mind. I'm absolutely breaking

1524
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:51,120
Speaker 3: down in front of you. We've got to close down

1525
01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:59,559
Speaker 3: the podcast. Goodbye. I love you, I said. No Gifts

1526
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:02,599
Speaker 3: is an exis exactly write production. It's produced by our

1527
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:07,240
Speaker 3: dear friend Annalise Nelson and it's beautifully mixed by Leona Squilatchi.

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01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:11,040
Speaker 3: And we couldn't do it without our guest booker, Patrick Cottner.

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01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 3: The theme song, of course, could only come from Miracle

1530
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:19,160
Speaker 3: worker Amy Mann. You must follow the show on Instagram.

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01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:20,960
Speaker 3: At I said, no gifts. I don't want to hear

1532
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:23,400
Speaker 3: any excuses. That's where you get to see pictures of

1533
01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:25,680
Speaker 3: all these gorgeous gifts I'm getting. And don't you want

1534
01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:27,719
Speaker 3: to see pictures of the gifts?

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01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:29,759
Speaker 2: And I invit?

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01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:37,519
Speaker 1: Did you hear? Funa man myself perfectly clear. When you're

1537
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:43,600
Speaker 1: a guest to me, you gotta come to me empty.

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01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:50,240
Speaker 1: And I said, no guests, you're our presences presents enough

1539
01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:56,000
Speaker 1: and I'm already too much stuff, So how do you

1540
01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:58,280
Speaker 1: dare to surbey me?

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01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:03,719
Speaker 2: Became with ten