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Speaker 1: I'm Dale Alley here with Matt Williamson. Matt. Kind of

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Speaker 1: an eventful day yesterday, uh for the Steelers at practice.

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Speaker 1: Um hm, all three coordinators spoke very cool. Um And

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Speaker 1: for people who don't know who's the third cord third coordinator,

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Speaker 1: when did they get one of that? Danny Smith special

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Speaker 1: teams coordinator. Yes, that's why you see something, you know,

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Speaker 1: the the um you see some Sometimes a head coach

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Speaker 1: elevated from being a special teams coordinator like John Harbaugh

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Speaker 1: was was right right, it was his job before becoming

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Speaker 1: a head coach. Um, because they actually oversee. Yeah, they

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Speaker 1: coordinate the whole special basically, they coordinate the whole team

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Speaker 1: really other than like the starting quarterback and some guys

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Speaker 1: like that, everybody else is under them at some point,

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Speaker 1: Like Cam Hayward plays special teams right protection, So Danny

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Speaker 1: Smith really has what guys on his ever changing, and

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Speaker 1: for some reason, everyone just refers to them as a

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Speaker 1: special team's coach as opposed get that that distinction. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: the only difference this is the offensive coordinator, the defensive

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Speaker 1: coordinator overseas staff as well, right, like they're the concier

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Speaker 1: concier area. However, your clemenzo and yeah, they've got their

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Speaker 1: crew working under them, and then you get the big

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Speaker 1: head at the top. Exactly, That's exactly. And some special

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Speaker 1: teams coaches, a lot of them actually have an assistant

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Speaker 1: them coordinating whatever bodies they give them. But they still

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Speaker 1: have to communicate with the the head coach and the

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Speaker 1: position coaches like, Okay, who's gonna be Yeah, we need

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Speaker 1: special teams meeting? Who isn't Um, I'm gonna need this

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Speaker 1: guy for three of the you know three talk. Talked

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Speaker 1: to the defensive backs coach. I said, I know you

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Speaker 1: like this guy better as your fourth corner, but this

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Speaker 1: active on all the time, Yeah, active on game day

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Speaker 1: or making the final roster or yeah. They Then every

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Speaker 1: team handles that differently. I mean, how much how much

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's four five core guys on the team

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Speaker 1: he's very strong about it, and he'll be another guy

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Speaker 1: the Peter Kings of the world will be pushing for

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Speaker 1: the pecking the pecking order quarterback was Ben Roethlisberger, Mason Rudolph,

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Speaker 1: Dwayne Haskins, Josh Dobbs got no Snapchester practice fair enough? Um,

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Speaker 1: see at a Mason Rudolph. That book's written already, you know, right,

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Speaker 1: thirteen have been starts. Okay, that makes sense. I mean

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Speaker 1: he prepares all week accordingly. You know. That's that's the

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Speaker 1: But I think, well, it's just an inning, right, But

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Speaker 1: inflected wounds. As Canada said, I'm sure those drives will

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Speaker 1: Those are just the way we went. Both holding penalties

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Speaker 1: you know, but let's say you get a personal file.

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Speaker 1: It's but the holding penalty is first and twenty every time.

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Speaker 1: Him and Matt we were talking about the nickel cornerback position,

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Speaker 1: a corner right right, Whereas if it's if it's a guy,

422
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:06,200
Speaker 1: if it's Brooks, who's who's a safety by trade. He's

423
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 1: a bigger guy, more stout um, and so that makes

424
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 1: more sense that you probably lose some of the coverage ability, right,

425
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 1: you know, he was a four six guy coming out

426
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,879
Speaker 1: of college. But a couple of notes there and some

427
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:24,439
Speaker 1: questions for you. I their corner room, just every corner

428
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:28,000
Speaker 1: on the roster that's going to make the team. Speed

429
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:32,240
Speaker 1: isn't their thing. I mean, so that's my one worry

430
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,399
Speaker 1: about this position. Like I know, studt ensembled and it

431
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 1: was against Watkins, who's a Burner. But if they get

432
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 1: in a true one on one speed race, the Steeler

433
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,920
Speaker 1: corners are going to be at a disadvantage. Of course,

434
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:49,200
Speaker 1: Minka helps that. I well, make it covers a lot

435
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,440
Speaker 1: of and Edmonds are the two fastest guys in the

436
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,879
Speaker 1: deep room probably the whole defense. Right, Yeah, that makes sense.

437
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 1: They're both sub four or five guys, and they play

438
00:22:57,840 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 1: like it and make it plays especially that way because

439
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,040
Speaker 1: the angles and all those things, which is a it's

440
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 1: a weird dynamic. You don't usually see that not the issue.

441
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 1: It might be the only team in the league where

442
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,160
Speaker 1: the two fastest guys in their secondary are there. Here's

443
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 1: a huge other conversation. But because the Steelers never pick

444
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 1: in the top ten and get the six foot guy

445
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 1: that runs a four two. You know, even Hayden, who

446
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 1: was a top ten pick, speed wasn't a Speed wasn't

447
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 1: his thing. And he's up in the age, of course,

448
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,159
Speaker 1: and I mean, you can't have everything at every position.

449
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 1: So it's pretty clear to me that speed isn't their first,

450
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 1: you know, the thing that they're looking for when they're

451
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,159
Speaker 1: acquiring corners. But it is worrisome. It's one of the

452
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 1: slower corner rooms in the in the in the league

453
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:37,120
Speaker 1: in my opinion. Again, Manka's range behind that will help

454
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 1: that issue, and more than anything, an elite pass where

455
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 1: I certainly helps that issue. Two um, But I think

456
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,440
Speaker 1: it's just something of note, you know, whether it's Brooks

457
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 1: or Sutton or whomever. In fact, you could take that

458
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:49,440
Speaker 1: just just hit me here. You could take that one

459
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 1: step further and say, the three fastest guys in their

460
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 1: defense might be bushed up the middle of the field,

461
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 1: right you're inside of you're inside linebacker, and you're two safeties.

462
00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 1: Are your fastest guys in the field. Yeah, if bush

463
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 1: Ray is all the corners who comes in first, it

464
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 1: might be, but I think he probably is right. So,

465
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 1: I mean it's a trend though. I mean, like over

466
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 1: the years you've seen them in the Libo here they

467
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,640
Speaker 1: draft fourth round corners, develop them. They were always tall

468
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 1: and long and you know, some hits some you know,

469
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 1: like the Taylors of the world. But every team has molds.

470
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 1: But you know it's pure speed. Is not the top

471
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,639
Speaker 1: of their list, says something noteworthy. No matter who how

472
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 1: those shakes out, they're not gonna be fast there. Sutton

473
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 1: might be their fastest corner and as sad, I think

474
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 1: it's it's probably Sutton, Okay, the guys, the guys, yeah, yeah, yeah,

475
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 1: Um maybe Justin Lane's faster than him and bush Burner either. Um.

476
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 1: So I guess here's my next question. When you know,

477
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:50,880
Speaker 1: figuring out where everyone's gonna play, how married to or

478
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 1: how strongly do you think they feel about leaving Sutton

479
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,719
Speaker 1: on the outside. I think they feel pretty strongly about it.

480
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 1: I assume they had that conversa aation with them when

481
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:05,639
Speaker 1: they signed him, right, And I assume that's why Nelson

482
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 1: isn't here. You know, sure the versatility is wonderful, but

483
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 1: I think everyone's better off if he doesn't move. In fact,

484
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,160
Speaker 1: when I talked to Joe Hayden last week, he said,

485
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 1: you know, he thought, prior to them signing Nelson that

486
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 1: Sutton was going to be the outside corner opposite him.

487
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:25,439
Speaker 1: So that's been the intention probably for years. And you

488
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 1: hope you know that doesn't take another turn. You know,

489
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 1: it's wonderful cam that you can do a lot of things,

490
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,439
Speaker 1: but it would be a lot better if we just

491
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 1: let you excel on one right. So I do think

492
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 1: they believe that, and you have fewer moving parts on

493
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 1: your defense if you do that without question right, you know, bumping,

494
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 1: Because here's the thing, it's nice having the right left situation.

495
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 1: Film studies a big part of the game massive and

496
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 1: if Sutton has to all right, I'm gonna study this

497
00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 1: outside receiver one game week and find know I actually

498
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 1: multiple outside receivers for most teams move their guys a

499
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:08,120
Speaker 1: right right. I gotta study this, but then I'm gonna

500
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 1: spend of my time inside right. So I got a

501
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 1: sponsibility on the same play as different I cat also

502
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 1: then look at at these wide receivers and tight ends.

503
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 1: I mean he's gonna have to spend the entire week

504
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 1: just studying eight guys. You probably have to study the

505
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 1: run game better too, so you can't guard. You can't Yeah,

506
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,200
Speaker 1: you can't focus on focus on Green this week. Yeah,

507
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 1: you know those kind of things, right, And it works

508
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 1: both ways. I mean, if he's always the right corner,

509
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 1: offenses can scheme it up that they get their matchup

510
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 1: to their liking too. But there is some some or

511
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 1: some it does simplify things when they have a left

512
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,439
Speaker 1: corner in the right corner and the whole defense can

513
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 1: go off of that and need the ones alive and

514
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,880
Speaker 1: you're just bringing the nickel corner in right right right.

515
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 1: I think that's a you know communication, um, all the

516
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,160
Speaker 1: all the you know for Sutton, and I think that's

517
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 1: the ideal situation, which doesn't bode well for Pierre. Now,

518
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 1: people might say, but Matt and Dale, what about in

519
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 1: the dime? Because Sutton's gonna bump inside in a dime

520
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: no matter what what depends on the week. I mean,

521
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 1: if you if you go into a week saying, okay, hey, Cam,

522
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:21,640
Speaker 1: we're gonna play mostly okay this week, We're gonna play

523
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 1: mostly dimes, so you gotta prep to do this just

524
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 1: this week, Yeah, but for the next four, the next

525
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 1: four which we're gonna pay, we're gonna be a nickel mostly. Again,

526
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 1: that goes back to show Bert, right, you know, that

527
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 1: allows you to live in nickel a lot more except

528
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 1: for these instances, you know, as opposed to and even

529
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 1: like last year. Last year they played seventeen percent of

530
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 1: their snaps in dime. Okay, like that's doesn't sound like much,

531
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: but that's a high number. It's a high number for

532
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 1: most of it. But I think if they if they

533
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 1: do more nickel this year and again, that that a

534
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 1: lot of that was because I think the people looking

535
00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: at it didn't they didn't qualify Marcus Allen for what

536
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 1: he was. Yeah. The way I looked at that though,

537
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 1: is because they were real heavy and other which was

538
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 1: seven defensive backs. I think that's when they got screwed

539
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 1: up with Alan because there was plenty of But I

540
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,159
Speaker 1: think there were probably some dime dime snaps towards the

541
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 1: end of the year where the two inside backers on

542
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:21,679
Speaker 1: the field where Alan in splain, Yeah, that's probably somebody

543
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 1: looking at that goes all there and dime when actually

544
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: they were right, right, right right, No, that's probably I'm

545
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 1: sent true too. But they did have plenty of instances

546
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 1: with Hilton, Sutton, Nelson, Hayden on the field last year,

547
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,679
Speaker 1: true for four corner more so than a lot of defenses,

548
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: which is fine if that's your best, guys, but it

549
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: does make you light, It makes you light, you know.

550
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 1: That's that's where you miss a guy like Hilton though

551
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: extra run stopper out there he is, but he's still little.

552
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 1: He's still little. I mean like Brooks would probably be

553
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: better at it. Yeah, I mean, he'll hold up. If

554
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 1: you remember when Hilton got hurt last year. It was

555
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 1: trying to tackle Ream Hunt in the Cleveland game, and Hunt,

556
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: who's a big back, thirty pound running back, rand him

557
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 1: over and you know he ended up hurting his shoulder

558
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: on the plane. So I don't know. I mean, to

559
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 1: your point about Malette versus Brooks was where we're going Originally.

560
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: I feel like if the deep down they probably like

561
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,479
Speaker 1: Brooks better, but they can't just say Brooks is our

562
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 1: guy because he's missed. Yeah, I mean, it's the thoughts

563
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: in conversation. He hasn't earned anything. He hasn't earned anything

564
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 1: the late round pick in his second season, but he's

565
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: probably the better option. He just hasn't been out there

566
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 1: for a game day. And that's how I took it

567
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: with the Eagles game is if he's perfectly healthy, he

568
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: probably lines up with the ones, and we're not even

569
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: really having this conversation. We're probably having the conversation. Boy,

570
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 1: he's securing the job. Yeah, I mean, he's still listed

571
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: as the number one guy in the depth chart. Not

572
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: that the depth Chart Matters has still listed as one

573
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 1: of the depth chart there. Um, which leads me to

574
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 1: my next topic. Mike Tomlin was asked again my Mike

575
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 1: Mike pursuit. It was on fire yesterday. I just talked

576
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: him as I walked on the hall. He asked, Mike

577
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: Thomson on fire when I saw him. Now nobody's on fire.

578
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 1: Seven Um. We saw Kendrick Green go back into the

579
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 1: starting lineup when he returned yesterday. He had been out

580
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: of camp the last the previous two days. He comes back,

581
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: he immediately goes back into the starting lineup with the

582
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: other four presumed starters. And so Mike asked the same

583
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 1: question I had asked Tomlin the previous week, you got

584
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 1: to keep asking until he answers it. Yesterday he kind

585
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 1: of answered it. He said, is Kendrick Green? Can we

586
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 1: now presume that Kendrick Green is your starting center? And

587
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: Tomlin says, um, you can make that presumption, but I'm

588
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: not gonna make any pronouncement fair enough. Again, he hasn't

589
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: earned it, and nobody walks into it. They're not gonna,

590
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 1: you know, Trump and Green is the starter, but he's

591
00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: been the starter all along. You brought to us up

592
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: the second we start doing these morning shows. Is you've

593
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: been covering team a long time and how many times

594
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: have you kind of done your one hand? I think

595
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,959
Speaker 1: how many rookies you've seen inserted and given the Kendrick

596
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: Green treatment they wanted to training camp. Yeah, running with

597
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 1: the ones. Maybe he's not pronounced the starter, but it's

598
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: like pouncy nause. Not many others. Chase here was one, Okay, Yeah, yeah,

599
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 1: I mean they're rare spots. I mean I guess Bush

600
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: was probably one or close to it. I mean traded

601
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: up for the guy. Yeah, I maybe probably got this treatment.

602
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: Thinking back at it, you know that didn't pronounce him.

603
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: But he's running with the ones. Um Wolf and I

604
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: had a little conversation yesterday and we both kind of

605
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 1: came to the conclusion that we think Finney's a better

606
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: guard than center, that Hoss has probably done enough to

607
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: be the two center or in leave Finney guard unless

608
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: you have to do you agree with that? Yeah, it's good.

609
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: It's good to have three gets better. Yeah, if you

610
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 1: can work it that way. Ye. So um yeah, trade

611
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: turn over to get hurt, I think Finney goes in right,

612
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So I yeah, I think

613
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 1: that's the pecking order there with that. Um but if

614
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: Green were to get hurt in the first series of

615
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: the first game, yeah, that's what the conclusion we came

616
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 1: to too, um, which I think is better than where

617
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 1: they used to sit. Both of those guys are making

618
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: the roster. Then you know, Dann Moore's making your roster.

619
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 1: So now it comes down to essentially they're going to

620
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: keep more than eight offensive linemen. Oh. I wouldn't to

621
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 1: run another thing by you because I we had Jim

622
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: wetxelon yesterday and he mentioned Joe Haig that if Haig

623
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: gets cut. I hadn't heard this before, that probably gets

624
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: the Steelers a six round pick in compensatory. Do you

625
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: know anything about that, because I know something. It's kind

626
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: of like the l J fort getting cut. I think

627
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: there's some there's definitely some guests work. But I mean,

628
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: he didn't say it's a done deal. But the first

629
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: I heard that, and I thought that might be enough

630
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 1: that with Haig's contract and a little carrot at the

631
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: end of the stick, he might be in trouble. Yeah.

632
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 1: I think he's in trouble regardless because he hasn't played great.

633
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: He hasn't played great in the fact that the fact

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00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:10,959
Speaker 1: that they moved Damn More over to the right side

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00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 1: um tells you what they're leaning towards there that they

636
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: want more to you know, every I think we all

637
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: assumed that more was going to be on scholarship this

638
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: year is a fourth round. I did, and I think

639
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: he's been better than that, and he's better than Hage

640
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 1: already to the point where you're like, Okay, this guy

641
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: is promising enough that he can be the extra tackle. Now.

642
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: We have seen them use Hag at times a little

643
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: bit in training camp as that sixth offensive lineman, and

644
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 1: that's what he did at Tampa last year. A lot.

645
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: I assumed that would be, and he would be that

646
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: guy the day they signed him. Because he's actually run

647
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: a route here and there too, is the extra tight end,

648
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: actually dropped the ball in the Superman you know. So

649
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: he's done a lot of it. But I'd rather more

650
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: do it. You know, he's a future Hubbard or whoever.

651
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 1: You know. That's a great role to get on the

652
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: field on game day and play feet maps, get the

653
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: game and nature. And he's shown to be athletic. He's

654
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: more athletic than I thought he would be. Yes, I

655
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: think he's got a bright future. I mean he's brought

656
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: along properly, which I'm sure they will, you know, so

657
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,919
Speaker 1: he may be a starter next year. Yeah, so Green

658
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 1: is the starting center. Things are starting to take shape here. Yeah. Absolutely. Uh.

659
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 1: This game I think will solidify a lot, you know,

660
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 1: because I think you actually see Brooks with the starters,

661
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: Banner with the starters. You'd hope. Yeah, Banner has been

662
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: out there this week, so I would expect him to

663
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 1: play be a full go. I know this isn't the

664
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: case since you just said it, but if Banner weren't starting,

665
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: do you think More would be the right tackle? Then?

666
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 1: I think they I think they give it a good look. Yeah,

667
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,399
Speaker 1: I think they, you know, definitely would be strongly considered. Yeah,

668
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 1: because he played well and off on the left side

669
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 1: that you think, okay, he should be able to do

670
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 1: the right now. Maybe they wouldn't do it with Ben

671
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 1: and there because he's only gonna have had a week

672
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: to kind of get ready for that. You know you

673
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: don't want to, but with three more weeks before the

674
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: season starts, they have time to at him up to

675
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: speed on the right. I was talking about for Saturday,

676
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: like if Banner stubbs the toe and doesn't feel probably

677
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 1: be probably just more of a track record there. Yeah,

678
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 1: he does know what he is. Yeah, so Understandibale. We're

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00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 1: gonna take another break. We'll be back with more here

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Speaker 1: on Steelers Nation Radio right after this things the official

681
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Speaker 1: voice of Black and Gold Nation, Beloved Black and Gold

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Speaker 1: s n R. Welcome back. I'm Dale Lally here with

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00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: Matt Williamson. You're listening to the drive here on Steelers

684
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,800
Speaker 1: Nation Radio. And this kind of slid under the radar

685
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,479
Speaker 1: late yesterday, but the Jamal Adams signed a four year,

686
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: seventy million dollar deal to remain with the Seahawks. There

687
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: were some other stories out there circulating that. Well, if

688
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 1: they put the franchise tag on Jamal Adams, he was

689
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: going to fight that because he feels like he should

690
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:01,720
Speaker 1: get the franchise tag value for a linebacker. Yeah, which

691
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: is honestly what what he is. It's a pretty good argument.

692
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: It's a good that's how he's used. Let's put it

693
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:11,479
Speaker 1: down right, right. He's a really interesting player. First of all,

694
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: this was I remember Jimmy Graham petitioned the league six

695
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: seven years right last year when he was and the

696
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 1: players have a great case. I mean, but is not

697
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: a linebacker. He doesn't back the line. He's a pass rusher.

698
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: Jimmy Graham didn't block a soul in New Orleans, but

699
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 1: he walked into the tight end room every day, so

700
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: he's a tight end, you know. Like, and the money

701
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: difference is dramatics. That's that's where I'm not. I'm just

702
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 1: not a fan of the franchise tag. Yeah, it's there's

703
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 1: a couple of problems with its. Yeah, And the one

704
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 1: I always bring up is if you're the best player

705
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 1: in your position, if you're Aaron Donald, franchising him as

706
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 1: a steel franchising T J. Watt, for example, is it's

707
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 1: selling him short. Absolutely, Steelers would save money on that

708
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 1: that if you signed, if you but then you antagonize

709
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 1: the player, right, it's not you end up what he wants.

710
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: If people like there's there's been people out there who

711
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: are kind of banging the table for the Steelers, they

712
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: just don't even worry about these negotiations with the t J.

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00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: Franchise him this year, franchise or franchise him next year,

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00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: franchise in the year after that. Then he's thirty and

715
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: twenty nine whatever you've been sent him on his way.

716
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 1: Do they not remember the Levy on Bell situation? Right?

717
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 1: Players don't like it, even though it is guaranteed. I mean,

718
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: you get that, but it's one year. It's one year.

719
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: You don't get the big bonus, you don't get in

720
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 1: the bag. It all sounds well and good until Levy

721
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,879
Speaker 1: on Bell holds out, until somebody holds out, and you've

722
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: made plans for the season thing he's gonna be our

723
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: starting running back, and then he doesn't show up and

724
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 1: he's not there right right, and you have no provisions

725
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,479
Speaker 1: you're picking up Not everybody, yeah, not everybody is gonna

726
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 1: do that, but it only has to I mean, you know,

727
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: he happened one. Yeah, that's sort of unprecedented. Do you

728
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: want to punt on another season? Because but also doesn't

729
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 1: send a good message to the locker room. Players don't

730
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 1: want to hear that. And it may be on paper,

731
00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 1: you know, strict by the numbers, that would be the

732
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 1: best way to handle what maybe, but there's more to

733
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: building a team than that. And these are human beings

734
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 1: amongst other human beings. The other thing that screwed up

735
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 1: about the franchise tag is if you're any of these guys,

736
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 1: opening negotiations are, well, you're the next two years. Let's

737
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: start there with guaranteed money. That's the best jumping off

738
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: point for contract negotiations. Yeah, we shoul probably get back

739
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 1: to Adams. Yea, his his deal includes thirty eight million

740
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 1: dollars guaranteed. I think that was to hang up on

741
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: his contract, that, folks, is to hang up with the

742
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: t J wat deal. I'm sure it's always about the

743
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,839
Speaker 1: guaranteed money. I think both sides can always agree, Well,

744
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Speaker 1: t J, we're gonna be you want you want to

745
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,720
Speaker 1: be the you know, highest page five in your position

746
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: or whatever, number one or whatever. Ok, Yeah, we can

747
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: agree to that. Okay, how much are you gonna guarantee

748
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: of that? Well, that becomes a sticking point because football

749
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 1: contracts are not guaranteed. I could sign you. I could

750
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: come to Matt Williamson and say, Matt, I want to

751
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: sign you to a five year, one billion dollar contracts.

752
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a million dollars this year. This

753
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: I still say yes, yeah, yeah, you and I would.

754
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: And in year four you're gonna make nine million of

755
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: that billion if you're on the team. If you're on

756
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: the team, I guess you're not gonna be on the team.

757
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:20,439
Speaker 1: Exactly exactly, I mean so obviously that that's how contracts work.

758
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: I mean, all of us see X amount of years

759
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: for a bazilion, gazillion dollars in baseball, in hockey, in basketball,

760
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 1: the player is gonna get that money no matter what.

761
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 1: He gets cut tomorrow, he gets hurt, he gets hit

762
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 1: by a bus, hit by a bus, the family is

763
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: going to get them right now. In that case, there

764
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 1: would be an insurance policy that would be paying. But still,

765
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: but if he blows out his n he never plays again. Whatever,

766
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: as long as they don't retire or they get that money. Um,

767
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 1: but football is not like that, of course, so we

768
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 1: all overreact to the numbers and you know, the years,

769
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: and we divide it up and with oh, he's getting

770
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 1: ten million a year. We not necessarily um back to Adams,

771
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: though I have maxed feelings about the player. First of all,

772
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:03,479
Speaker 1: you such a bind if you trade for Khalil Mack

773
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: or Atoms and you give up two first round picks

774
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: to sign the guy, you have no choice but to

775
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:09,879
Speaker 1: sign the guy. You know you don't have the first

776
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: round picks to replace them. They're gone. You know you

777
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: you're pretty much married to the player. I wonder in

778
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,919
Speaker 1: how many instances, deep down is it the right move

779
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 1: to give up multiple firsts for Atoms or Mac or

780
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 1: two players at least two players and at who you

781
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 1: would have had control over for five years, right at

782
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: a cheap, cheap cost for four of those years. You know.

783
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,240
Speaker 1: It's a conversation, Yeah, there's there's there's a difference between

784
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: the make a deal well, and I bring that up

785
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 1: because of the man mankey trade trade. Because you had

786
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 1: four you had controllabok he was rookie deal. Early in

787
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 1: his rookie deal. Jamal Adams was late in his rookie deal.

788
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 1: And they traded for him. The Steelers didn't give up

789
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 1: multiple first round draft picks. They give up one, right,

790
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: and he was younger. But there's still the pressure there

791
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: to sign the player. Sure, here's they want to. I

792
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: saw a report um earlier this week, and I've been

793
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 1: saying this all along. I don't know why this was

794
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 1: somehow news, but one of the aggregator sites put out

795
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 1: the Ed Bouche of the of the Athletics says that

796
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: the Steelers aren't going to sign Manca fitz Patrick Patrick

797
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 1: this year, No kidding, why would He's got First of all,

798
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,800
Speaker 1: he's got They've got two years left to control over him.

799
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 1: He's making peanuts this year. It's not time. It's not

800
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 1: time's coming. But it's not time. And for Manca Fitzpatrick,

801
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: he's already pocketed that big signing bonus from the Dolphins.

802
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: If he were if he were still with the Dolphins

803
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: right now, would anybody be talking about they got to

804
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 1: the Dolphins have to resign Manka Fitzpatrick right now, right.

805
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: I mean, he's just like everyone else in his rookie

806
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 1: class with it are still with their original teams. You know,

807
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 1: it's not time yet. The only the only positions that

808
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 1: has changed that in recent years is a quarterback position.

809
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: You start seeing these quarterbacks getting new deals after year three,

810
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: which think is a good faith type of thing, you know,

811
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 1: but the you don't have to do it at the

812
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: other positions, you're not gonna You're not gonna do that,

813
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: like the way you paid the guy before you have

814
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 1: to Rams did it with Gurley and paid dearly for it.

815
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 1: Oh we love you so much, we'll sign you a

816
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 1: year earlier. Why right in a year later he's gone

817
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,959
Speaker 1: and he was a disaster after a year or two.

818
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 1: As for Adams, he really is more of a linebacker. Um,

819
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: he's speaking of guys who can't cover. He's not much

820
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 1: of a cover guy. He's not going to take the

821
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: ball away. He's very disruptive. I mean for them, he's

822
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 1: important in that scheme. He's their camp chance he's their

823
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 1: camp chancellor. You know, he is, you know, never going

824
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,720
Speaker 1: to leave the field. He's probably their best pass rusher,

825
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,280
Speaker 1: which is a little sad. He wouldn't be the Steeler's

826
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: best pass would but you'd love to have him. But

827
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: I don't know how paying him was difficult for me.

828
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I'd rather Manka's roles a little easier. They're

829
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: they're not similar players, so this will be the starting point. However,

830
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: Manka's agents first are here, assuming that like Justin Simmons

831
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 1: doesn't sign a new deal or some of these other

832
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 1: guys that are up to think who else would be.

833
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: But there's gonna be another safety or two making a

834
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: big box in the next couple of years. But four

835
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,800
Speaker 1: years seventy million dollars. So people looking at this and

836
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 1: Minka is gonna, you know, he's gonna want to break

837
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: the bank. How can they pay Minka and t J

838
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: four year, seventy million dollars? Um, you can structure that

839
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: in ways that the Caps going up like crazy, Yeah right,

840
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 1: I mean teams are signing the gambling deals already. Um,

841
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Speaker 1: that money is we have a pretty good idea with

842
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 1: the Caps will be next year. Year after that it

843
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: might go up, might be up to two fifty million,

844
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: right right. These might all be peanuts right uh and again,

845
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 1: and think his homes deal is going to be laughable

846
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 1: in two years. That's the best bargain in the world.

847
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: That ten years ago, four year, seventy million dollars was

848
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: quarterback money. It's not anymore. It's not any million dollars

849
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 1: a year. Is not quarterback Moneys Dalton money. Yeah, it

850
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 1: gets you in, get you, it gets you in the

851
00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 1: conversation to go acquire Andy Dalton. Bro Yeah, one of

852
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 1: those guys, right. I mean, if you think that's a

853
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 1: lot of money the Steeler fan, wait till if they

854
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:10,240
Speaker 1: do make a big move for established veteran and signed

855
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: them big, big term, you know, long term a quarterback whoever,

856
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: whoever the quarterback of the future happens to be. It's

857
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 1: gonna be expensive. At some point he's going to sign

858
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 1: a contract. It's probably north two million dollars even not

859
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 1: a year, but over the course of the contract, which

860
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 1: of course is the beauty of if by chance, one

861
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: of the guys on the roster now looks like he

862
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: could do it and still maybe use the first round pick.

863
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 1: You mean you have the cheapest quarterback room in the league.

864
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean you can beat my homes on game day, though, correct.

865
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,839
Speaker 1: Those guys are important. Yeah, it's kind of a big deal.

866
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: That's why they make all that money. That's not the

867
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,399
Speaker 1: position to play it cheap, if you know, all things

868
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: being equal, it's a great advantage of can so that that. Uh.

869
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 1: I think Steeler fans should be looking at that four year,

870
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: seventy million dollar deal and saying, okay, Mike, is that's

871
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 1: gonna be that range a little bit higher than that

872
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: because it's another year from now or maybe somewhere around

873
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 1: twenty million dollars a year average. Get you make of

874
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick back two years from now, which sounds rough, you know,

875
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: whenever you we looked at the salary cap, they's the

876
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 1: last year or two. But that's the going rate, and

877
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: he's worth. He's a star, and you want to keep

878
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: your st I don't I don't get the argument that, well,

879
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: it's football, No nobody, uh you know there there are

880
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 1: no stars that you know. You're not winning super Bowls

881
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: with these guys. They make it a lot easier to

882
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: win them if then not having them. Otherwise, why do

883
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 1: you want good players on your team? Right? I mean

884
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:36,879
Speaker 1: the Chiefs have been paying Tyron Matthew for the last

885
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: couple of years, I mean the top of the safeties

886
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,800
Speaker 1: pay grade, which is going to be drop of course,

887
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: but he's been instrumental to them going to championships. And

888
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 1: you look what Arizona pay Buddha Baker. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

889
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:50,879
Speaker 1: I mean I'd rather make it him. I mean, that's

890
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah. Oh, no, safeties are gonna start getting paid.

891
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 1: I stay with linebackers. You know, you hope Bush gets

892
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 1: to the Warner Leonard Leonard level. But those guys are

893
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 1: break in the back now too. Yeah, every down do

894
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 1: it all intermediate middle of the field defenders. It's you know,

895
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: Mike Thomas likes to talk about positionless football. We just

896
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 1: talked about in the previous segment. How the fastest, the

897
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: three fastest guys on the Steelers defense are the two

898
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,280
Speaker 1: safeties in the linebacker which isn't the way anyone draws

899
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: it up. But if if you want to be fast,

900
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: you want me fast in the middle of the field. Yeah, absolutely, Yeah.

901
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: I love the saying if you're if you have a

902
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 1: slow Mike, you have a slow defense. You know, I'm

903
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: a middle linebacker. And yeah, I think there's some truth

904
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 1: to that. Yeah. So, I I don't know, I just

905
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 1: think it's it's interesting that that deal got done. Um,

906
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 1: I guess the sticking point was that was the guaranteed money,

907
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: as it always is, as I mentioned, so and he

908
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: had been franchised already. Yeah, so people thinking that this

909
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: what deal? How? How why is this not done yet?

910
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: It's the guaranteed money, folks, it's always the guaranteed money.

911
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: Don't don't look too much. Don't guarantee they have a

912
00:46:55,640 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 1: good idea of what the parameters a contract look like it,

913
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 1: don't you agree? If the if the deadline to get

914
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 1: this done was Friday, it would be done. It would

915
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 1: definitely be done, right right. I think it gets done

916
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: here within the next week or two makes perfect sense,

917
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 1: you know, because they want him on the practice field, sure, sure,

918
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: And he's not gonna play one down a preseason football, right,

919
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 1: wasn't going to regardless. You know, you played very sparingly

920
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 1: in this in this upcoming game, is there do you

921
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 1: think Cam plays? Is there anyone that sits? Wouldn't surprise

922
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 1: me if Cam sat, so he might be. Yeah, he's

923
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 1: probably the only one. But he's starting to ramp things

924
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 1: up a little bit. Those guys aren't even if they play,

925
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 1: they're not gonna be out there long, no series or

926
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 1: kid or something like that. Yeah, the offense, you went

927
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,760
Speaker 1: out there because Ben's gonna be out there right, correct,

928
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 1: But we're gonna take a break. That's gonna do it

929
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Speaker 1: for hour one. We'll be back with our two right

930
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 1: after this. On the drive