1 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:14,239 Speaker 1: Don't google yourself. Me and Maw told me that years ago. 2 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: I'm telling you that now, don't google yourself. But if 3 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: you have a staff, it's okay to have him google 4 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 1: your name every now and then. Producer Jesse did he 5 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: found some things out on the internet about me. We're 6 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: going to talk about it tonight, but not before we 7 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: talk about like thirty seven other things because we're jampacked. 8 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: We're high on top. He congested downtown Nashville, Tennessee, for 9 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: it is Thursday night, July thirteenth, the year of World 10 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: R twenty twenty three. We could do a two and 11 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: a half hour show tonight of that, I have no doubt. 12 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 1: Bold predictions and what ifs, of course, you know they're 13 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: baked into the show. But we've got what I thought 14 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: was one of our own out here trying to gatekeep 15 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: and keep three quarters of us out of college football fandom. 16 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: Don't think that was gonna go below my radar. Brent 17 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: and Vennables. We got all sorts of opinions to talk 18 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: about with him. They had big twelve media days in 19 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: the past. Couple of days out in Dallas are LinkedIn 20 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: for those more familiar with the area. Several noteworthy items there. 21 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: I assume most of you didn't make it appointment viewing 22 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: to just tune in and catch every second. That's okay 23 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: because I made Bradley watch all of it, and he 24 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: had some odds and ends, and we've aggregated it all. 25 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:20,559 Speaker 1: Dave Randa, as he usually is, just brutally bluntly honest 26 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: about himself. He never talks about anyone else. He just 27 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: talks bad about himself. Georgia versus the AJAC has evolved, 28 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 1: hasn't it since the last time you and I spoke. Oh, 29 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 1: it's evolved. You know what. I'll say that some people 30 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: have accused me of being condescending lately, so I'm not 31 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 1: going to do that. I Am not going to stretch 32 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: this arm all the way across this shoulder and pat 33 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 1: myself on the back, because that would be condescending and 34 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: that's not the kind of show we do here. They're 35 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: watching us in Oglethorpe, Georgia. A lot of CSX activity 36 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: I hear in Oglethorpe. They're watching us in Phoenix, Arizona, 37 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: Delray Beach, Florida, Big Spring, Texas. Thank you, so so 38 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: so much. A lot of success on the show. I 39 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: tweeted out earlier today, and I will tell you again. 40 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: The Peyte State Store is going to open in August. 41 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: Some of you care about that, some of you don't. 42 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: But it's gonna look a lot different than it did 43 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: last year. That is one of the key reasons I 44 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: shut it down and we're relaunching it. And I'm just 45 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 1: saying there's some designs in there I love, and I 46 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: think you will too, mainly because you asked for them. 47 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: So I'm not delivering anything you haven't asked for. However, 48 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: seamless transition here. I've got too many papers in front 49 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: of me because, unfortunately, Colin, here's your endpoint three two one. 50 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: Very unfortunately, I have to paper pop something in front 51 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: of me that I never wanted to have to read. 52 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,399 Speaker 1: There are some folks out there who we love. There's 53 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: some folks out there that we don't love quite as much. 54 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: Hatred has no place on this show, of course, but 55 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 1: there are some folks that you think are sort of 56 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,839 Speaker 1: in it. They're in a fox hole with you when 57 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: it comes to college football fandom, when it comes to 58 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 1: the way we view this sport, right, you and I 59 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: to a ninety ninth percentile usually agree on the core things. 60 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: We may not agree on the playoff, we may not 61 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 1: agree on nil. But those are ornaments the tree. We 62 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: all have the same tree, or at least I thought 63 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 1: we did so I'm perusing Twitter the other day. Unfortunately, 64 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: I think it was like Monday or Tuesday, so we 65 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 1: didn't have another show live coming up for a couple 66 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 1: of days. But our buddy over there at barstool, not 67 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: Brandon Walker. Notice I said buddy, our buddy, Captain CON's 68 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: I've never I've never spoken ill of him. I have 69 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: never seen reason to take umbrage with him on this show, because, 70 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: I mean, nine times out of ten, the guy who's 71 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: pretty much singing from the same songbook that we do, 72 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: which makes it all the more disappointing that I hold 73 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: this piece of paper in my hand which features an 74 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: article written by him, And you want to know what 75 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: the genesis of this is. The genesis is he's talking 76 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: about the worst fans in college football. You know where 77 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: this is going, or at least I think you do. 78 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: You've heard what he said a million times, It's just 79 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: that you've normally heard it from casuals. I think it's 80 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: very important to hit the pause button here, and it's 81 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: very important to remember the words of me Mo. Smart 82 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:17,559 Speaker 1: people can say casual things. Casual people rarely say smart things. 83 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 1: And our buddy Captain Conn's a casual he is not, 84 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: but casuality absolutely came out of his mouth. Allow me 85 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: to start with this. The worst fan base is anyone 86 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: who roots hard for a college they have zero connection 87 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 1: to in any substantial way. This is that old. If 88 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: you didn't go there, you shouldn't be rooting quite as 89 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: hard as alumni did because they have a special connection 90 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: of that. I don't disagree. That's an obvious point. If 91 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 1: you went to the University of Tennessee and I grew 92 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: up over in East Memphis, and I've never even been 93 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: to Knoxville, but I just buy the T shirts at 94 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: my favorite apparel store, Yes, you've got a different connection 95 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: to the University of Tennessee than I do. However, he 96 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: couldn't stop there, could it? M hm, couldn't stop there. 97 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: He used words like illegitimate, look gross, Like how often 98 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 1: do we ever even say that word on this show, 99 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 1: much less when it's attributed to fans. So I was 100 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: just thinking to myself, let's you know what we need 101 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: to do. We probably need to call up our buddy 102 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: the alien. And our buddy the Alien comes down here 103 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: whenever we need him. He is usually an arbiter on 104 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:28,919 Speaker 1: situations like these. And he comes down and we say alien, 105 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 1: welcome back, and we say to him, buddy, we got 106 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: a problem. We have things called colleges institutions of higher learning, 107 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: and some of us go and some of us don't. 108 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,679 Speaker 1: And we got our buddy. Captain CON's over here saying 109 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: that college football team up there at Louisville. If you 110 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: didn't go to the University of you really aren't that 111 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: legitimate a Louisville fan. And the alien then turns on 112 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: a Louisville game. Or here's an even better one. If 113 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 1: we're going for pure spectacle, here, let's take our buddy 114 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 1: the alien and say flip it over to He flips 115 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 1: it over to CBS, and it's Death Valley, it's LSU, 116 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 1: it's Saturday night. And those eyes and I don't know 117 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: if you've ever seen an alien, but they're already pretty big. 118 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 1: Those eyes get even bigger, and it's one hundred and 119 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 1: one thousand, and it's a decibel level that you could 120 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: not imagine, frankly, unless you've witnessed it, and I've been 121 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: field level there multiple times, and it's aside from Mississippi State. 122 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: For different reasons, it's the closest I've ever come to 123 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: sort of looking around and asking anyone got earplugs? Oh, 124 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 1: it made me feel so soft, But I also wanted 125 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 1: to hear the next day. So our buddy the Alien, 126 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 1: he watches an LSU game Saturday night, Death Valley, and 127 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: he's amazed, and you're amazed, and I'm amazed, And if 128 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: he's honest with himself, the author of this piece is amazed. 129 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: It's not one hundred thousand and one business majors in there, man, 130 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: So you either admire the spectacle of the sport or 131 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 1: you don't. You either view that as legitimate or you don't. 132 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: They don't build those cathedrals merely for alumni. Now, those 133 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: alumni may have some special seating privileges that the rest 134 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: of us don't have. But you've got to forgive my 135 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: buddy Leroy and ur Kadie a perish down there. If 136 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: he didn't want to rack up sixty five k in 137 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: student loan debt and instead went into the family business, 138 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: and half the folks who graduated from there may call 139 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: him boss one day. His legitimacy is confirmed. As far 140 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: as I'm concerned, and as far as the powers that 141 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: be at LSU are concerned. He didn't stop there allow 142 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: me to continue. It kind of gets me more fired 143 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: up the more I talk about it. People with legit 144 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: rooting interests aren't the ones who get mad at me 145 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: for this. The ones chirping back at me are being 146 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: sensitive because they know their fandom is based on some 147 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: absurd reasoning. Well, here's all the reasoning you need to 148 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: root for peate state. This is America. I can do 149 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: whatever the blank I want to do. But if you 150 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: want to get a little deeper than that, if you 151 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: want to be a little more tactful about it, allow 152 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: me to ask what is legitimate rooting interests? Now? According 153 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: to the criteria not listed but suggested in this piece, 154 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: it is you either went to the school or you 155 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: got immediate family that went to the school, and that's 156 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: the long and short of it. Maybe you worked there. 157 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. Obviously I'm a little bit looser on 158 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: my criteria than he. But if if that's legitimate rooting interest, 159 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,679 Speaker 1: then I assume everything else is illegitimate rooting interest. See 160 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: previous statement for what I think about that. Here's my 161 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: take on this. I've heard this argument. It's as old 162 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: as time. I went to Harris County High School in 163 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 1: Harris County, Georgia. I did not go to the University 164 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: of Georgia, and I used to hear people all the 165 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 1: time who were a lot of them were trust fund kids. 166 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: Some of them were just geniuses, and they had already 167 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: been offered scholarships by their senior year at Harris County. 168 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: But some of them knew they were going to Georgia. 169 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: Some of them knew they weren't going to Georgia. And 170 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 1: the ones who knew they were going to Georgia or 171 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: had Georgia blood in their family, they would speak in 172 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: a condescending manner sometimes to the folks who were going 173 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: to go to Dalton State or even Georgia st Almney 174 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: State or Columbus State. And I remember, even back then, thinking, 175 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 1: is this kind of stupid because they weren't talking about 176 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: allegiance to the school. No one's going and hanging out 177 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: on the quad on Tuesday afternoons. Say look at me, man, 178 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: I'm Texas through and through. No one's hanging out in 179 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: the student rec Center at Kentucky, but they are going 180 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: to Kentucky's football stadium on Saturday. They are wearing the blue, 181 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: they are cheering for the Wildcats, and they do view 182 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: themselves the same way you view yourself in that particular moment. 183 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: The reason that that's legitimate, the reason they're legitimacy as 184 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: a fan checks out every bit as much as someone 185 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: who double majored in track. I don't even know about. 186 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:47,119 Speaker 1: Up there is unlike the university experience. Unlike the academic experience, 187 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: the college football team transcends just being an appendaged to 188 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 1: the university. The college football team is more an idea 189 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: than just a thing that exists there on campus. And 190 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: it's an idea that's reflective of a geographical culture, of 191 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 1: a region of people who may disagree on some things 192 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: here and there, but largely they share some commonality. And 193 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: if you're in the LA that stands for Louisiana, the 194 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: things you share may be starkly different than the LA 195 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,559 Speaker 1: out there in Los Angeles, California. But that's the beauty 196 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: of it. It's not a bunch of it's not a 197 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: country of three hundred and thirty some odd million robots, 198 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 1: they are different places, different cultures, and that football program 199 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: that exists in Baton Rouge or Tuscaloosa or Columbus or 200 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: an Arbor or Lincoln, it's kind of a representation of that, 201 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: and people gravitate towards it not because they went there, 202 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: because it represents something a whole lot more than just 203 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: a stadium that happens to be parked on campus there. 204 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: He continues, ps I, honestly, you want to hear condescending, 205 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,319 Speaker 1: Now listen to this. Ps I honestly don't care who 206 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,959 Speaker 1: you for, especially you Chief. Just know that folks look 207 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: at you a little sideways. Pps. People who defend themselves 208 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: as ardenal Lee, as Chief know full well how ridiculous 209 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: they sound, but they can't admit that out loud. Let 210 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: me just say this to all of you, all of 211 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: you who have been labeled illegitimate, all of you who 212 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: have been cast away, all of you who are shall 213 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: we say, academically downtrodden, Chief, pretty much anyone out there 214 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: that's been labeled by our buddy here, You're welcome into 215 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 1: our fold on this show. You're welcome at Pate State. 216 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: And I also want to say this, I will speak 217 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: for the fundraising branches of every major university in America. 218 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 1: They will take your dollars, they will take your season 219 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: ticket applications, they will take your merchandising purchases, every bit 220 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: as quick as they'll take someone who's kid and grandkid 221 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: and great grandkid is going to go to the University 222 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: of Minnesota. I don't even have to call them up 223 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: to make sure I can confirm that for them. So 224 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 1: I saw this the other day, and I knew it 225 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: had to be addressed again, to wrap it up in 226 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: classical fashion with the same quote I opened it with. 227 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 1: Smart people say casual things. Sometimes casual people rarely say 228 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: smart things. This is a smart person, good person. Probably 229 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 1: digitally shake his hand tomorrow morning and move on about 230 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: our business. But he deserves to be called out here 231 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:19,959 Speaker 1: because this is gross negligence. This is it reeks of management. 232 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: I'm I'm shocked that management did not pin something like that. 233 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 1: Maybe that's the angle. Maybe barstool management is the angle 234 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: over there, And if it is, he's well on his way. 235 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: It's not the worst strategy in the world. First thing 236 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 1: you want to do is look down your nose at 237 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: the common man. It's like a classic fast track sweater 238 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: vest path to upper management. It works. It works. Next 239 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: up we go from jovial to very serious. We're going 240 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 1: all over the place in the show tonight. The first 241 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: of I'll set the over under it four and a 242 00:12:55,120 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: half SIPs out of the challice. That reminds me. I 243 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 1: was reading the comments the other day. You know, when 244 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: we're doing bold predictions, when we're doing team previews, when 245 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: we're doing the what if segment, a lot of times 246 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: we talk about the teams over under. So if we're 247 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: talking about Boise State and they're over under win totals 248 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: eight and a half, I'll say they're over under win 249 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: totals eight and a half. Someone came at me the 250 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 1: other day I'm not joking about this and said, I'm 251 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: not watching the show anymore. I said, why not? Seems 252 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: kind of rash. Take a two week hiatus, don't just leave. 253 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: And they said, you keep on speaking nonsense. It's impossible 254 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: to win half a game. Just say eight or nine, 255 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: don't say eight and a half. Like, what do you 256 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: do if you're listening to podcast, I just threw my 257 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: hands up in the air. What do you do? At 258 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: that point? Can't please them all? So anyway, A couple 259 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: of weeks ago, the AJAC released a scathing investigative report 260 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: on the University of Georgia. It included the following headline, 261 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: Georgia program football program rallies when players are accused of 262 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:07,959 Speaker 1: abusing women. I took a strong stance on the show 263 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,959 Speaker 1: the following night. Some of you were taken aback because 264 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 1: you're used to this time of year just being a 265 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 1: little more easy going, a little looser in the format. 266 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: And it was not easygoing, nor was it a loose 267 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: format that night. I took great exception, as did a 268 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: lot of folks from Georgia, to the way that that 269 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: article was presented. I had some things thrown at me. 270 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: I'll address that later, but I want to get right 271 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: to the nuts and bolts of this. What happened was 272 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: exactly what I expected to happen. I knew Georgia wasn't 273 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: going to sit around and just take that. So Georgia, 274 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: in case you haven't been paying attention, and there is 275 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: a lot going on, Georgia issues a nine page demand 276 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: for a retraction. And I think some of you may 277 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: have read that. I read it for you. If you 278 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: didn't have time to read it, I'm not going to 279 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: summarize it. It is a lot of what you would expect. 280 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: It was Georgia essentially calling out the AJAC. Alan Judds, 281 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: the investment negative reporter over there. I don't know Alan, 282 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: I've never met Alan. I got nothing against Allan. I 283 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: just happened to believe. I happen to believe the standard 284 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: that that entity claims to hold itself to was not 285 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: met in that report. That's the long and short of it. 286 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: And so George obviously felt the same way. So they 287 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: issue a demand for a retraction. But that would have 288 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: taken one page. It was nine pages because Georgia essentially 289 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: did the investigation for the AJAC. Now you may listen 290 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: to that, and you may look at me very skeptically 291 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: and say, oh, what Georgia investigated themselves. No, that's not 292 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: what I'm telling you. What I'm telling you is there 293 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: were more details, or let me put it to you 294 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: like this, the Georgia retraction demand letter was more thoroughly 295 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: vetted and better presented in more detailed than the actual 296 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: investigative report was. That's what blew me away, because I 297 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: got to my phone like two hours after it had 298 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: been released. So a lot of people had already had 299 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: their takes on it. You know, a lot of people 300 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: had already spoken their mind on Twitter. Whatever. Well, I 301 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: decided to go read it for myself. Bold, I know, 302 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: but I decided to go read it for myself. And 303 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: like three or four pages in, I already realized, having 304 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: read the AJAC report and now having read what I 305 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: had in front of me, this right, here's what the 306 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: AJAC piece would have looked like, or should have looked like. 307 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: But here's the problem, if you want to call it one. 308 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: Had the AJC's initial investigative report included all the details 309 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: in the demand for retraction letter, there would have been 310 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: no investigative report because it wouldn't have had legs to 311 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: stand on. That was the entire premise. And you notice, 312 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: if you guys watched or listened to that show a 313 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, you'll remember I didn't go down 314 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: a laundry list. I chose one specific story that was 315 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: included in that report to hone in on because I think, 316 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: if you're presenting an overarching argument, and if you're saying 317 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: that there have been eleven players accused of this, eleven 318 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: players accused of that, well, if you only give me 319 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: specific details on two, and one of them's already off 320 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 1: the team. The other one's on the team. I zero 321 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: in on the one that's on the team because you 322 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: were claiming again that the football program quote rallies when 323 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: players are accused of abusing women. If that's serious, I 324 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: want to know about it. I'm not carrying water for anyone. 325 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: As some of you said in the comment section. I 326 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:20,719 Speaker 1: want to know about it because if that's true, that's 327 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 1: about to lead this show. I don't care who it is, 328 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 1: it's about to lead the show. So I dug into it. 329 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 1: I did my own calls, and I read the story, 330 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 1: so I tried to gather as much information as I could. 331 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 1: The problem was, it evaporated the more you dug into 332 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 1: it, it evaporated. So if you're a Florida fan, if you're 333 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: an FSU fan, if you're an Alabama fan, and you 334 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: looked at this and you enjoyed it from the standpoint 335 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: that George is being drug through the mud, the AJAC 336 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 1: is doing to Georgia of what we haven't been able 337 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: to do to them on the field, in other words, 338 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: the past couple of years. Just pretend this was your 339 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 1: university for a second. So remove the block G and 340 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 1: put that you from Miami there to South Carolina game 341 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: cut logo there, And I want you to imagine that 342 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: one of your recruits comes on your campus. He's sixteen, 343 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 1: He goes out and drinks, does some things he shouldn't, 344 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 1: but then again calibrating also some things that many many 345 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 1: many other kids do on many, many many other campuses 346 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 1: every single day, and that includes official recruiting visits. So 347 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: so far, there's nothing that would warrant an investigative piece 348 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 1: done on him. But then also imagine that you find 349 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 1: out that there was a sexual encounter that started as 350 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: consensual and then there are allegations that it became something 351 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: other than that. That is serious on the surface, that's serious, 352 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: But then imagine that the rest of the story suggests 353 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: that Georgia sent a guy who's a fixer over to 354 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: the police station, and the police essentially walk in in 355 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: red and black sunglasses, and they lean towards the side 356 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: of the accused or accused, yeah, and they sort of 357 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: work in his favor. And this is what you're led 358 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: to believe because you read the and then imagine that's 359 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: kind of where it's left. Okay, and the lasting impression 360 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: you're supposed to get is this dude was accused of 361 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 1: sexual assault and then Georgia sent some guy over there 362 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: who you've never heard of to fix it and clean 363 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: it up, and as a result, now he's on the team. Okay, 364 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 1: that was what the report said. I read it like 365 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:24,360 Speaker 1: everyone else did. Then imagine the full police report is released, 366 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: including text exchanges, including a mountain of counter evidence to 367 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: that initial allegation. That just makes the allegation itself go 368 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 1: up and smoke, And imagine how aggravated you'd be. That's 369 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 1: how I read it. When we got all the information, 370 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: that's how I read it. So anyway, here's what happened. 371 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: What happened was people looked at that and they said, 372 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 1: all right, well that's one. Okay, so maybe you disproved one. 373 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: Maybe it's not that big a deal. There's still ten more. 374 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: That's not the way this works. It's not the way 375 00:19:56,359 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 1: any of this works. If you're claiming that there are 376 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: eleven instances of football players on a team being accused 377 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: of sexual assault but still being on the team, and 378 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:07,919 Speaker 1: you're claiming the football team rallies around those at the 379 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,120 Speaker 1: expense of the accuser, but you only give me specifics 380 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: on two and what it has been kicked off the 381 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: team the moment that those allegations were levied against him 382 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 1: and is eventually going to go to court, And the 383 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: other one's over here, and that's the only other one 384 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: you've given me anything on, and I do cursory amounts 385 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: of digging, and your story falls apart. What am I 386 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: supposed to think about the rest? Because I'm certainly not 387 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 1: about to think, oh, I'll blindly trust this entity. On 388 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: the other ten they gave me no details on. So 389 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,120 Speaker 1: that was my take on it. And then, like I said, 390 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: some people came at me that were just clearly aggravated 391 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: that Georgia was not about to be drugg through the 392 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 1: mud nearly as much as it appeared. And they said, well, 393 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: you're just carrying water for Georgia. No. No, here's the 394 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 1: thing about it. Forget about the jersey for a second. 395 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 1: I want you to understand something. There's always this balance, 396 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 1: there's this fine line you have to walk where if 397 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 1: you've got really really serious allegations, you can't be flipping 398 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 1: about it. So sexual assault obviously fits that description. But 399 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: then when you find out that maybe the allegation is unsubstantiated. 400 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,719 Speaker 1: That's one thing. But then if you've got a major 401 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: media outlet, the biggest one in the state of Georgia, 402 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: trafficking in that, and it kind of seems more and 403 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: more like they weaponized what they knew your emotion would 404 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: be towards the headline to further some cause or some 405 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,199 Speaker 1: crusade they're on. I don't care which team it is, 406 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: could be Arizona State, could be the University of Montana. Uh. 407 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: That's something that I'm going to address on this show, 408 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: because here's what else I know. Whether it is Arizona 409 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 1: State or Montana or the University of Georgia, they can't 410 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 1: say everything they want to. That's why that extraordinary measure 411 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: Georgia went to is so eyebrow raising, because I want 412 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: you to think about also the fact that we've got 413 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: SEC Media Days literally next week downtown Nashville. That is 414 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: the least ideal timing imaginable to have something like this happened. 415 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:04,919 Speaker 1: So the folks at Georgia were so taken aback and 416 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 1: they were so against a wall, irate at how the 417 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: AJC presented them. They said, don't even care if Media 418 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 1: Days is next week, we're about to publicize this. We're 419 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 1: about to put nine pages in their face, call for 420 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 1: a retraction, and then we're going to take Kirby Smart 421 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 1: and we're going to take our legal representation here and 422 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: we're going to issue statements and he'll be asked about 423 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 1: it all day every room he goes into, including the 424 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 1: one with us next week. And they looked at all 425 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: that and said it's worth it. You honestly think that 426 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 1: would happen if they were, as the AJC says, rallying 427 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: around players accused of abusing women. Because here's the other thing. 428 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,120 Speaker 1: The other thing is they didn't run from the other 429 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 1: allegations because they're not allegations Like the street racing stuff 430 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:53,479 Speaker 1: over there is really serious, and Kirby Smart spoke about it. 431 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: They didn't run away from that. They didn't deny it 432 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: at all. In fact, they spoke about it. He spoke 433 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 1: as straightforward as he had about it, saying I'm doing 434 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: the best I can. We're doing the best we can. 435 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,679 Speaker 1: We don't know exactly what the answer is. It's not 436 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: for a lack of trying. I've talked to some folks 437 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: over there, and they bring every kind of speaker, every 438 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,919 Speaker 1: kind of insurance adjuster in there. Every kind of scare 439 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: you straight tactic, every kind of run someone till two 440 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:21,439 Speaker 1: inches from death tactic you can employ. They've done it. 441 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 1: It's just not a switch you flip. And you also 442 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: you also are outside and maybe have the benefit of saying, oh, 443 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 1: just kick everyone off the team. It's not that simple. 444 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: It's not that simple cause it's always case by case, 445 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: and it also lends me. It leads me back to 446 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 1: thinking about what I would do if I were a 447 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: head coach, Like, how many folks do you know that 448 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: get dismissed from a major college football program over speeding tickets? 449 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: Not the kind of stuff that happened in January. That's 450 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: not what I'm talking about. That's a different galaxy. But 451 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 1: I'm talking about the spotlight that's on that university now 452 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: because of what happened in January. And so, if I'm 453 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 1: a Georgia football player and I'm I'm clock doing eighty 454 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: four and a sixty five, I'm gonna get popped in 455 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: the state of george especially, I'm gonna get popped. That's 456 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: gonna be front page news. Is the answer really to 457 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: kick me off the team? Or is the answer to 458 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: try and employ other tactics as best I can if 459 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 1: I'm Kirby smart, and try to address the problem. The 460 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: point is they didn't run from any of that. There 461 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 1: is a big gulf between that stuff and what the 462 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 1: AJAC chose to accuse them of. And frankly, if you're 463 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 1: not guilty of it, come out swinging. That's exactly what 464 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 1: they did. So I don't think you've seen nearly the 465 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: end of that, and I think it'll be a central 466 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 1: focus as off the field matters usually are at media 467 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,919 Speaker 1: days next week, and so everyone else will talk about it, 468 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: so maybe we won't have to talk about it. I 469 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: got a special helmet for you, not the Lake kick helmet, 470 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: not the payte State helmet. And there's the fluid of 471 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 1: supremacy just for good measure. No, not those I got 472 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 1: to talk to you about something our buddies at a cat 473 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: Me emailed me about today. Now, if you're at a 474 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: football practice, you see Guardian caps all the time, but 475 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 1: if you're not, you may hear about this for the 476 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 1: first time. Right now, Guardian caps everyone practices in them. 477 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: Now half the teams out there play spring games in them, 478 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 1: and if you're watching on YouTube, right now you see 479 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 1: a picture of it. So those things are essentially something 480 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 1: you put around the shell of a helmet and it 481 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 1: greatly reduces impact. But it also it's lightweight, it's water resistant. 482 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: There is a fifteen to twenty degree reduction in static 483 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 1: heat build up, so it actually keeps you climate controlled 484 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 1: and it also reduces impact. And why I'm mentioning this 485 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,400 Speaker 1: is because they're only available at Academy for a limited time. 486 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 1: That's an exclusive at Academy Sports and Outdoors. Now, those things, 487 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 1: obviously because of what time of year it is, are 488 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 1: going to sell really fast. But don't worry. Academy dot 489 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 1: Com will have them stopped, and so you can get 490 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,360 Speaker 1: anything and everything under the sun at Academy Sports and Outdoors. 491 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: But I would encourage you guys. You know, some of 492 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,679 Speaker 1: you may be on the fence, so some of some 493 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: of the parents who watch or listen to the show, 494 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 1: you may be on the fence about whether you want 495 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: your kid enrolling in playing tackle football. And I think 496 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,199 Speaker 1: I don't think, frankly, I don't think football does a 497 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 1: great job of demonstrating how much safer they have made 498 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 1: the game. All you hear about are horror stories from 499 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: people who played a generation and go, well, a generation 500 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: to go, they weren't wearing Guardian hats in practice, a 501 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 1: generation to go, they didn't have mechanisms around the helmet 502 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: that could reduce twenty to twenty five percent of an impact. 503 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: And the point is, there's never any kind of tool 504 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: that can make football one hundred percent safe. But if 505 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: I'm on the fence and then all of a sudden 506 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: I see that, or if I'm a coach of a 507 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: football team and I see that at Academy Sports and Outdoors, 508 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 1: I probably should have already been an academy. But if 509 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 1: I wasn't already, I will be now. So if you 510 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 1: are not watching the YouTube channel right now and you 511 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 1: want to know what those look like, just google Guardian 512 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: caps and then, since you're already online, go to academy 513 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 1: dot com and buy a few next up second sip 514 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 1: from the chalice. We're getting ever closer to four and 515 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: a half. And yes, for those wondering, Cole Kublick has 516 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: already texted me in the show it's okay. Got a 517 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 1: little more blackmail on him today than I did twenty 518 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: four hours ago. And it is a video, and it 519 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 1: does involve a vibration plate. But that's all I'm gonna say. 520 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: My balls are in his court. Let's do some what 521 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: ifs I meant to say it that way? For those 522 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,400 Speaker 1: of you who are new out there, what if it's 523 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: one of the most fun segments that we've been doing 524 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 1: on the show lately. How about this one? What if 525 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 1: Alabama beat Georgia in the SEC title game. That's what 526 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 1: our buddy XANDERALI wanted me to lead off with tonight. 527 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 1: You know what this would do for the overall head 528 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: to head between Saban and Smart that would be one 529 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: and five. That's what Kirby Smart's record would be against 530 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,959 Speaker 1: Nick Saban if this were to happen. And what's interesting 531 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 1: is if this were to happen, out of those six games, 532 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 1: only one of them would have been scheduled, the twenty 533 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,919 Speaker 1: twenty matchup between those two teams. Since Kirby's been at 534 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 1: Georgia and Saban's been at Alabama, that's the only time 535 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: they've played where it was actually on the schedule. Every 536 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: other time it's been in postseason play. Here'd be my question, 537 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 1: if you want to know what if? So what if 538 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,919 Speaker 1: Bama beats Georgia in the SEC title game. Well, I 539 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: want to know are they going to play again, because 540 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,880 Speaker 1: I've seen that before. I've seen Bama take them down 541 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,679 Speaker 1: in Atlanta before, only to have the trick turned on 542 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: them a month later in Indianapolis. So that's the first 543 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: thing I would want to know. The second thing that 544 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: I would suggest is that's that's I think that's the 545 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 1: SEC's premier rivalry right now. I've said this before. Some 546 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: people like totally agree with it, some people hardcore disagree 547 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: with it, and the disagreeers would say that that's not 548 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: even a natural rivalry, like obviously the Iron bowls bigger 549 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: than that are or Georgia Florida is bigger than that historically. Yes, 550 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: But if I were to go to Saint Paul, Minnesota 551 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: and ask them which matchup they think about right now 552 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: in the SEC for control of the conference supremacy, or 553 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: which one has the most storylines baked into it, which 554 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: one's the most intense, which fan base is paying attention 555 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: to the other fan base most, and vice versa, it's 556 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: Georgia and Alabama. No, they're not natural rivals. They're hardly 557 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: ever scheduled to play, although that will soon change, and 558 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: they are scheduled to play next year in Tuscaloosa. Doesn't 559 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 1: matter that they are each other's recruiting equal on the field. 560 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: They are each other's rough equal every year, and so 561 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: that's what I would think. That's my answer to the 562 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: what if that happened? Next up? I hope this is true. Oh, 563 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: I hope this is true. Eric hit us up and said, 564 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: what if Virginia Tech makes a year two leap under 565 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 1: Brent Pry? Eric, I wish you would have defined what 566 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: leap means, but I'm going to define it for you. 567 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: So there were three and eight last year. Let's say 568 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: they're Bowl eligible. So let's say you're predicting them to 569 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: go six and six. Well, that would be the first 570 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: time in three seasons they've been above five hundred. Yeah, 571 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: they've had three losing seasons in a row up there. 572 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: It's tough. They were three and eight last year. Remember 573 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: they didn't play the Virginia game. They had the shooting 574 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: up there, so they didn't play the game. So that's 575 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: why the eleven totals there. Speaking of totals, five and 576 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 1: a half, that's the over underwin total. So I'm just 577 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: by half a game. I'm asking for the over to hit. 578 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 1: Here as schedules go, they've got a pretty workable one. 579 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: Now here's the problem. Them being on your schedule also 580 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: indicates it's workable for you because Virginia Tech's and the 581 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: bottom half of the conference. But if they're gonna be 582 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 1: above and beyond expectation level this year, they avoid Clemson, 583 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 1: that's a good thing. They avoid UNC, they avoid Miami 584 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 1: if they're winning a bunch of one possession games and 585 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 1: you know they have a little quantum leap of their 586 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 1: own in terms of quality of team. It helps to 587 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: play four of the bottom five teams in terms of 588 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 1: preseason odds. That helps, yes, but it's still going to 589 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 1: be still going to be quite an effort. Now they 590 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,959 Speaker 1: are recruiting inside the top forty. So there's that. Producer 591 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: Jesse tells me, they are recruiting inside the top forty. 592 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 1: What about another program that enjoyed wild success two years ago, 593 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 1: crippling disappointment last year, and no one knows what to 594 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: expect from them this year. That would be are Michigan State. 595 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: Spartans and Smith hit us up and said, what if 596 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: Michigan State has another losing season? Now this gets really dicey. 597 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: This is thin ice hot blades or is it so 598 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 1: naturally everyone looks at this and says, oh, well, if 599 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 1: they go sub five hundred, mel Tucker's out of there, 600 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: is he? Though? Is he really out of there? And 601 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 1: what I'm asking you is, are you really about to 602 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 1: pay that man seventy six million dollars not to coach football? 603 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: It's fully guaranteed if they fire him without calls and 604 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,959 Speaker 1: they can't say we have cause it is because he's losing. 605 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: That's not cause, it's not how that works. And so 606 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: if they fire him because he's five and seven this year, 607 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 1: they're paying him seventy six mil. Now I talk to 608 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 1: some administrative types about this sort of thing in the 609 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: past week. Two things that are going to be standing 610 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 1: in the way in the future that haven't stood in 611 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 1: the way in the past when it comes to paying 612 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: ridiculous buyouts. Buyouts are normally privately funded, or at least 613 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 1: the majority of them are, And that just means it's 614 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 1: not coming from the university's checkbook. That there are some 615 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 1: rich donors who don't like the coach enough to where 616 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 1: they're willing to come off their own hip pocket and 617 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 1: they'll pay the buyout and when that happens, don't it 618 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: doesn't fall on the taxpayer. And it's one of those 619 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 1: situations where you look at that person and say, hey, 620 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: that's how you want to spend your millions, go for it, 621 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 1: and you may even cheer it on. Well, that's happened 622 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 1: in the past. Here is the problem that money's not 623 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 1: going anywhere. So a lot of these universities still have 624 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 1: the same donor class. They still have the same pool 625 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 1: of resources that theoretically they could get their hands on 626 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 1: if they needed. Problem is those resources are being redirected, 627 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 1: and they're being redirected to nil. So if I am 628 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: running pat State and director Colin is a very philanthropic, 629 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 1: multi multi million Colin, you want to be a billionaire, Yeah, 630 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 1: Collin's billionaire, don't ask cow it so none of your business. 631 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 1: But he's a billionaire several several different businesses. And so 632 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 1: I can go to Colin and I need to buy 633 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: out a coach and he is my phil Knight, He'll 634 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 1: help me buy it out. Well, Colin, unbeknownst to me, 635 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 1: only earmarks a certain portion of his wealth towards Paate 636 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 1: State Athletics. Doesn't matter that he's worth more. He has decided, 637 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: being the wise money manager that he has been, he's 638 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 1: only going to spend this much and gear it towards 639 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 1: payt state athletics. Well, Colin has heard about this thing 640 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 1: called nil, and Colin has decided, I'm taking this money 641 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 1: and I want it to be put into acquiring athletes. 642 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 1: I'm tired of paying coaches not to coach. I want 643 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: to go get the proper athletes so they win so 644 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 1: we don't have to fire them. So I have that 645 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 1: in the back of my mind as an ad and 646 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 1: a university president, I can no longer go to Colin 647 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 1: if I want to fire Meltucker, and I got to 648 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: pay him seventy six mil. Colin's not just there for 649 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,359 Speaker 1: me to blindly write a check as he has been 650 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 1: in the past. And here is the other problem, and 651 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:25,359 Speaker 1: it's more perceptional in nature. There's this fight going on 652 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 1: behind the scenes in college athletics right now where a 653 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 1: lot of people do not want to grant employment status 654 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 1: to football players, and there are many reasons why they 655 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 1: don't want to do that. Here is the problem. A 656 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,399 Speaker 1: lot of that battle is going to end up being 657 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 1: fought in the court of public opinion. And I want 658 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 1: you to just picture with me for a second what 659 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 1: it does to public opinion when you tell football players 660 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:55,439 Speaker 1: we can't afford to pay you. We can't forget about 661 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: whether we want to, we can't afford to do that, 662 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 1: but we're gonna pay this guy seventy six million dollars 663 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 1: not to coach. You can have all sorts of rebuttals. 664 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 1: You can come back at him and say, yeah, but 665 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 1: that's private money. The money you would get paid would 666 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,359 Speaker 1: come from totally different places. They've already tuned you out. 667 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 1: It is not about facts. It's about screenshots, it's about headlines, 668 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 1: it's about snippets, and it's about perception. And the perception 669 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 1: would be absolutely not If you can afford to pay 670 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 1: astronomical buyouts, you can afford to pay us employment wise. 671 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 1: That's how that would go. I'm telling you that's how 672 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 1: that would go. And that's how a lot of the 673 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,319 Speaker 1: administrative types in college football know that would go. And 674 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 1: so for that reason, I don't think mel Tucker would 675 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 1: be fired if he went sub five hundred again. I 676 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 1: think they would have to bite the bullet and they 677 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: would probably they would probably demand staff changes again, they 678 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 1: just had some. They would probably demand a lot of 679 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,959 Speaker 1: reshuffling on the deck, but that ship's not going down, 680 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 1: at least not this year, I don't think. Lastly, this 681 00:35:55,680 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 1: one would be interesting too. We have a little situation 682 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 1: in college football right now where we may be contracting 683 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,880 Speaker 1: into sort of a power to model, but a lot 684 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 1: of us don't want to see that happen. So Grant asked, 685 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 1: what if the ACC and the Pac twelve get left 686 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 1: out of the college football playoff this year? Well, Grant, 687 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,319 Speaker 1: this would not be good for those of us who 688 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,959 Speaker 1: want to want to see the figurative wealth spread around 689 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:21,439 Speaker 1: the sport a little bit more. And that just means 690 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 1: success in more corners of the country, which brings bigger paydays, 691 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 1: which gets reinvested, which hopefully leads to you understand how 692 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 1: that works. This would not be good. This would be 693 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 1: the antithesis of that. If the ACC is out, that 694 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 1: would be the third straight miss for the conference. If 695 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: the Pac twelve is out, that would be the seventh 696 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,319 Speaker 1: straight miss for the conference. And forget about what that 697 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 1: does on the surface, and forget about how much that 698 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 1: potentially allows the SEC and the Big Ten to load 699 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 1: up multiple teams depending on what the Big twelve did, 700 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 1: and Notre Dame and the G five. Aside from all that, 701 00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:01,279 Speaker 1: what happened to Clemson in this scenario, what happened to 702 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 1: fsu usc, what happened the rest of the PAC twelve? 703 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 1: I just assume you cannibalize yourself. Is that what happened? 704 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,400 Speaker 1: And there's a lot of what here. I want to 705 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 1: know the why, like how did that happen? Wouldn't be 706 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 1: a good time for those of you who do not 707 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 1: like the consolidation of playoff spots for a few conferences. 708 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 1: It would not be a good late December and January 709 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 1: for you there. So if you love the sport, I 710 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 1: would root against that. Next up, so many different places 711 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 1: to go, and irresponsibly, I have sort of drugged my 712 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,319 Speaker 1: feet a little bit so far throughout the show. So 713 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna pick up tempo a 714 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 1: little bit here, third sit from the chalice notwithstanding, I'm 715 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:48,399 Speaker 1: gonna pick up tempo. And I'm not sure why, because 716 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:49,759 Speaker 1: we could stay here all night if we want to, 717 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,880 Speaker 1: but Jesse's got a bedtime, and even I respect that. 718 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:56,880 Speaker 1: The other night we did the whole sec balance of 719 00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 1: Power thing and it was a wild hit. Shockingly not 720 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,359 Speaker 1: everyone agreed, but it was a wild hit. So here's 721 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 1: what I want to talk to you about tonight, the 722 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 1: Big Ten balance of power. How does this shake out? 723 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 1: Unlike some divisions in the SEC, it's not so cut 724 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 1: and dry at the top. It used to be used 725 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 1: to be Ohio State. Then how far behind is everyone else? Well, 726 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,879 Speaker 1: that has changed, friends. I know we'll have a lot 727 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 1: of spirited debate about what I'm about to say in 728 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,479 Speaker 1: the comment section, but I have Michigan as the number 729 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 1: one program in the Big Ten right now. However, the 730 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 1: way I would classify it is basically a one A 731 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 1: and a one B. Now you know, we define program 732 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,760 Speaker 1: is like a rolling three year snapshot of multiple things. 733 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 1: But if when you play each other every year, yeah, 734 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 1: head to head matters a whole heck of a lot, 735 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,360 Speaker 1: especially when the margin has been double digits both times. 736 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 1: And we get to see it again this year, and 737 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 1: it'll be fun again this year. But in the meantime, 738 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:55,920 Speaker 1: what I want to tell you is, I'm not normally 739 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 1: a person who has knee jerk reactions to the outcomes 740 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 1: of one game, but the status of the program Michigan 741 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 1: and the program Ohio State in the Big ten right 742 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,920 Speaker 1: now is such that it's either or fifty two forty eight, 743 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,879 Speaker 1: fifty three forty seven. You could see wild fluctuation year 744 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:14,359 Speaker 1: to year. If they were to just go back and 745 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:18,240 Speaker 1: forth the next five years trading wins, I would probably 746 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 1: go back and forth, Who's one A, Who's one B, 747 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 1: because that's kind of how close I think there are 748 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 1: there are they are in terms of comparability of program 749 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,240 Speaker 1: right now? But what if I didn't show you recruiting 750 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 1: so right now? I think anyone who would argue Ohio State, 751 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 1: they would argue longevity. And it doesn't matter that I 752 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,280 Speaker 1: specified no, no, no, I'm zooming in last three years. 753 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 1: That's why I would say Michigan maybe a little bit 754 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,319 Speaker 1: ahead of you as a program. I don't care what 755 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,279 Speaker 1: you did the previous seventeen years, because I'm not talking 756 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 1: about your trophy case. I'm just talking about right here 757 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:50,360 Speaker 1: and now. That notwithstanding, if you still argue to Ohio State, 758 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 1: there's plenty of argument for it. I think a lot 759 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 1: of it would come down to talent acquisition, overall construction 760 00:39:56,120 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 1: of roster, and supremacy of overall talent on that roster. 761 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,279 Speaker 1: That means something. Ultimately, who has the bigger number on 762 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 1: the scoreboard. It's what matters. But if you're arguing health 763 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,760 Speaker 1: of program, I get where you're going with that. Here's 764 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,760 Speaker 1: what I would say about that. I would say, ignore 765 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,879 Speaker 1: recruiting for just a second for me, and just watch 766 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 1: the teams play the last two years, and then I 767 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:21,439 Speaker 1: want you to tell me what do you see from 768 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 1: each of them? And I'm talking about them playing each other, 769 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 1: what do you see from each of them? Because recruiting 770 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,799 Speaker 1: does matter, and I factor it in on this and 771 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 1: overall talent roster and our roster talent love, it does matter. 772 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:41,200 Speaker 1: All that matters to me. Process matters, development matters, mindset matters, 773 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,719 Speaker 1: identity matters. Michigan's just checking all those boxes right now. 774 00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,440 Speaker 1: Maybe it changes this year. If it does, I'll be 775 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:50,279 Speaker 1: happy to revisit this. But that's why I put in 776 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 1: Michigan one A, Ohio State one B fractions of a 777 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,560 Speaker 1: difference right now. That's why when they take the field 778 00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,360 Speaker 1: this fall, if they were to do it right now, 779 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:01,400 Speaker 1: they I guess has a number on that game and 780 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,440 Speaker 1: it's pretty much even maybe favored one way here or there, 781 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,960 Speaker 1: and that line will move throughout the season. The odds 782 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,240 Speaker 1: to win the Big Ten. It's basically just pick whoever 783 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,800 Speaker 1: wins the Ohio State Michigan game. And that's why it 784 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,080 Speaker 1: must be so fun down in Tier two, because there 785 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,239 Speaker 1: is no depth in Tier two of the Big Ten. 786 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,799 Speaker 1: It's just Penn State, that's it. And Penn State gets 787 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 1: to listen to things like what I just said come 788 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,720 Speaker 1: out of everyone's mouth. Big Ten Media Days. In two weeks, 789 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:28,920 Speaker 1: I'll be up there, a lot of us will be 790 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,320 Speaker 1: up there, and that's exactly what they'll talk about. And 791 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,880 Speaker 1: James Franklin and Penn Stated will roll in, they'll do 792 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 1: their thing, and they'll get out of there. Do you 793 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,640 Speaker 1: realize now that Pat Fitzgerald is out at Northwestern, James 794 00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,799 Speaker 1: Franklin is the second most tenured head coach in the 795 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:46,920 Speaker 1: Big Ten behind Kirk Ference. He's been there a while. 796 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:50,239 Speaker 1: He's not new anymore. He's been there a while. We 797 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,359 Speaker 1: did our show up there a couple of months ago 798 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:54,839 Speaker 1: and had fun up there. May go up there again 799 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:56,719 Speaker 1: this fall before the season kicks off. We'll see if 800 00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 1: schedules can work out. But I told you then and 801 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 1: I'll tell you now, there's no doubt the direction, There's 802 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,320 Speaker 1: no doubt the vision. There's no doubt about the intensity 803 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,680 Speaker 1: when you step on campus. A lot of programs are 804 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,600 Speaker 1: like that. I'm not saying Penn State has the market 805 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:14,200 Speaker 1: cornered on that. What I am saying is the attitude 806 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,560 Speaker 1: there is the exact attitude you would have if you 807 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:21,040 Speaker 1: weren't rebuilding. The attitude there is exactly what you would 808 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,239 Speaker 1: think you would have if you weren't miles away. The 809 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 1: attitude there is the kind of attitude you get when 810 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 1: you walk in a building and they know they're close, 811 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,759 Speaker 1: and they know they're just tweaks here, tweaks there, one 812 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,280 Speaker 1: addition here, you know, one coaching philosophy adjustment over there. 813 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,400 Speaker 1: That's the difference. And then of course it's all culminating 814 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,919 Speaker 1: and having Drew Aller start at quarterback for you this year. 815 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,600 Speaker 1: Tier two that's Penn State. Don't really need to say 816 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,799 Speaker 1: much more on that. But Tier three that's where the 817 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:48,719 Speaker 1: fun is in the big ten. Like, if you want 818 00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,560 Speaker 1: to get in debates, is Michigan State in Tier three 819 00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:55,239 Speaker 1: or are they in Tier four? Because I do a 820 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,279 Speaker 1: rolling three year snapshot, and baked into that three year 821 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,719 Speaker 1: snapshot is the best and worst of Michigan State. And 822 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:05,200 Speaker 1: I'm not so sure that averaging it out would give 823 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,839 Speaker 1: us the truest version of what that program is right now, 824 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:13,440 Speaker 1: even though logic would tell you to do it that way. 825 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,279 Speaker 1: I know I just paused there, and it sounds like 826 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:16,840 Speaker 1: I lost my train. I thought I didn't. I'm just 827 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:20,319 Speaker 1: looking at the screen and looking at eleven and two 828 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 1: to five and seven, and then there's a big question 829 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 1: mark this year because I hadn't played it yet. So 830 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,080 Speaker 1: Meltucker's eighteen and fourteen overall at Michigan State right now. 831 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,239 Speaker 1: Luke Fickle, he's at Wisconsin, but he just walked in 832 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,320 Speaker 1: the door. Wisconsin's been a fairly solid program. Luke Fickle 833 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,120 Speaker 1: just walked in the door. I could say to you, boy, 834 00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,360 Speaker 1: I think that injects a ton of life in that program. 835 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,640 Speaker 1: But if I'm sitting here telling you, I also value 836 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,319 Speaker 1: the rolling three year snapshot. I'm looking at four and three, 837 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:48,799 Speaker 1: nine and four, seven and six. Question mark Tier three? 838 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,320 Speaker 1: Is that Tier three worthy? I think it is. Iowa 839 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,839 Speaker 1: has got to be there. Iowa with any kind of 840 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:58,080 Speaker 1: offensive pulse would be in tier two their last three years, 841 00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 1: six and two in the COVID year four in twenty 842 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:04,760 Speaker 1: twenty one, eight and five, last year, and for the record. 843 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,399 Speaker 1: We go back to twenty fifteen. Here are their win 844 00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:12,680 Speaker 1: totals twelve eight, eight, nine, ten, six, ten eight and 845 00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,880 Speaker 1: the six was in a COVID year. It's really solid, 846 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,000 Speaker 1: which makes you wonder, man, if they could move the 847 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,759 Speaker 1: ball offensively at all. In fact, I think Iowa would 848 00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,880 Speaker 1: be at the very top of Tier three. Minnesota. I 849 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,000 Speaker 1: think they're the sneakiest team in the Big ten because 850 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,680 Speaker 1: eleven and two, three and four, nine and four, and 851 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,360 Speaker 1: nine and four those are their last four years. That 852 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,719 Speaker 1: three and fours the COVID year. PJ Flex's quietly done 853 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:40,839 Speaker 1: a really good job up there. Now. The argument, of course, 854 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,760 Speaker 1: could be, well, that's just a byproduct of the West 855 00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,000 Speaker 1: being really jumbled. What if Minnesota played in the East. 856 00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:50,680 Speaker 1: What if Minnesota played the Big Three every year? Point taking, 857 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,239 Speaker 1: I just think that Tier three is very interesting. Then 858 00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,000 Speaker 1: you get down to Tier four, Illinois and Perdue. New 859 00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,520 Speaker 1: staff at Perdue gonna be really fun to watch. Illinois 860 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:01,600 Speaker 1: and Brett Bea made a lot of noise last year. 861 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,160 Speaker 1: If we get that noise again this year, we're changing 862 00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,719 Speaker 1: their tier. Maryland Mike Loxley best team maybe he's had 863 00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,440 Speaker 1: there coming up this year. There is there is a team. 864 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:12,879 Speaker 1: They're in College Park, Maryland. They're gonna benefit a whole 865 00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,080 Speaker 1: heck of a lot when they do away with divisions 866 00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,560 Speaker 1: here because no one talks about Maryland because you know 867 00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:19,440 Speaker 1: who they have to play every year. And if I 868 00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,560 Speaker 1: parked Maryland in the West, they'd probably just be thrown 869 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,920 Speaker 1: in that drum with everyone else and everyone's got a 870 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:29,160 Speaker 1: shot because it's all a bunch of mediocrity. Indiana Northwestern 871 00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:34,480 Speaker 1: at Northwestern situation. I've been watching that elevating interim and 872 00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,400 Speaker 1: they went one and eleven last year? What are they 873 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,600 Speaker 1: going to be this year? And that's tough. Rutgers also 874 00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:41,239 Speaker 1: is in the Big ten. It's about as much as 875 00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:44,640 Speaker 1: I can say right now. We did a little opinion 876 00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,759 Speaker 1: gauging today. That's a change of segment, Colin, Sorry about that. 877 00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:53,440 Speaker 1: It was a little hasty fourth step. We did a 878 00:45:53,440 --> 00:46:00,440 Speaker 1: little opinion gauging today. I asked you, here's what I 879 00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:01,800 Speaker 1: would love to ask you. I would love to ask you. 880 00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:03,880 Speaker 1: Can you see how much this might keep shaking? Because 881 00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:07,279 Speaker 1: I really think the building shifted today because if I 882 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,000 Speaker 1: just let go of the table, you see me rolling backwards. 883 00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,600 Speaker 1: So I keep having to roll forwards and it shakes 884 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:16,439 Speaker 1: the mic looks like it looks like the Northridge quake 885 00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,120 Speaker 1: out here, as PAC twelve, paate, I'm familiar with my 886 00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:23,919 Speaker 1: West Coast California earthquake history, so don't be freaked out. 887 00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,520 Speaker 1: No seismic activity here today is just uneven flooring in 888 00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:31,320 Speaker 1: this place, I think. So. I asked you guys today, 889 00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:35,799 Speaker 1: what is your opinion of Brenton Venables, head coach at Oklahoma. 890 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,960 Speaker 1: We got more responses on this, I kid you not 891 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,960 Speaker 1: than any other head coach I've asked you about. And 892 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,160 Speaker 1: I was a little surprised. Maybe it's because they were 893 00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,440 Speaker 1: at Big twelve media days today. Maybe it's cause you 894 00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,160 Speaker 1: guys had a whole lot to say about Brenton Venables. 895 00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,279 Speaker 1: I think back to last year. I think back to 896 00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,920 Speaker 1: him taking that job, and it was the stunner of 897 00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:58,000 Speaker 1: all stunners that Lincoln Riley left there, so Brent Venables 898 00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:03,879 Speaker 1: comes in. I do not think the average person has 899 00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:08,719 Speaker 1: appreciation for what a new head coach faces today in 900 00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,480 Speaker 1: college football. It's always been hard to be a new 901 00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:15,799 Speaker 1: head coach. I think it's never been more difficult to 902 00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,560 Speaker 1: be a new head coach. You've always had to deal 903 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,120 Speaker 1: with learning how to manage people you've always had to 904 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:25,879 Speaker 1: deal with implementing not only your preferred schemes, but your philosophy. 905 00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:30,000 Speaker 1: You're taking your thumb and you're just pressing it against 906 00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:34,160 Speaker 1: an organization of hundreds of people, and hopefully when you 907 00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,799 Speaker 1: pull that thumb away, whichever print you just put on 908 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:42,960 Speaker 1: that program leads to success. That's nerve racking, especially if 909 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,799 Speaker 1: you've never led an organization before. You've always had that 910 00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:49,719 Speaker 1: stuff you've always had. Can you adjust personally? How does 911 00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,279 Speaker 1: your family deal with being in the spotlight? And I 912 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,120 Speaker 1: know some people dismiss that stuff. That's real, that's real stuff, 913 00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:59,600 Speaker 1: but everyone's always dealt with that. Imagine being a new 914 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:03,160 Speaker 1: head coach coach at a major program that's not used 915 00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,080 Speaker 1: to losing at all. There is no rebuild year at Oklahoma, 916 00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,200 Speaker 1: at least in most of our lifetimes there hasn't been. 917 00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:13,440 Speaker 1: And you're being thrown right into the middle of an 918 00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:17,880 Speaker 1: era where nil is now a thing, the transfer portal 919 00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:19,680 Speaker 1: is now a thing. Oh and by the way, you 920 00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:24,640 Speaker 1: had extremely unique roster circumstances with the way Riley left 921 00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:28,440 Speaker 1: in conjunction with those things being in place, and it 922 00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,240 Speaker 1: was like being dropped in the middle of a hurricane, 923 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:32,880 Speaker 1: and I don't think odds makers did him any favors 924 00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:36,319 Speaker 1: last year when Oklahoma, odds wise was right up there 925 00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,120 Speaker 1: near the top of the board. And as it turns out, 926 00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:41,360 Speaker 1: that was just it was always foolish. They whiffed on 927 00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,600 Speaker 1: that one. A lot of us did. I'm not blaming Vegas. 928 00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:45,320 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not like I picked Oklahoma to go 929 00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:49,200 Speaker 1: six and seven last year, but was last year really 930 00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,880 Speaker 1: as it appears, that's what a lot of you were asking. 931 00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:53,200 Speaker 1: That was a lot of the opinion that you were 932 00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,120 Speaker 1: giving me because a lot of you were talking about 933 00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,880 Speaker 1: how man I believed in him, but last year really 934 00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:02,800 Speaker 1: shook my confidence. Well, Brent Vennables was at Big twelve 935 00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:06,480 Speaker 1: media Days today and he was talking about how dire 936 00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,560 Speaker 1: the situation was from a roster standpoint last year, and 937 00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,040 Speaker 1: also a lot of us have talked about that. We've 938 00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,279 Speaker 1: looked at that on this show. I just don't think 939 00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,480 Speaker 1: it was appreciated at the time. But let's go down 940 00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:20,439 Speaker 1: that road a little bit. So in retrospect, you look 941 00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:23,279 Speaker 1: at it and he had to pretty much tear it 942 00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:25,279 Speaker 1: down to the studs and start to rebuild, which is 943 00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:29,240 Speaker 1: rare at a program like Oklahoma unless there are NCAA 944 00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:33,319 Speaker 1: sanctions involved, that's pretty rare. That's outside the norm. Is 945 00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:37,200 Speaker 1: that really what happened? If that's really what happened, theoretically 946 00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,880 Speaker 1: or figuratively, if they really did tear it down and 947 00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:42,879 Speaker 1: start from as close to scratch as you could start 948 00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:47,560 Speaker 1: at Oklahoma, everything else is explainable if if that's really 949 00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:51,160 Speaker 1: what they did, Because if that's what you did, there 950 00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,799 Speaker 1: is no there's no basement to how bad it can be. 951 00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:57,160 Speaker 1: Like some people watched Oklahoma last year and said, well, 952 00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,959 Speaker 1: you know, first year struggles one thing, but you can't 953 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,600 Speaker 1: can lose forty nine to nothing at Oklahoma. Yeah you can, 954 00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,440 Speaker 1: Well you can't go six and seven? Yeah you can. 955 00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,800 Speaker 1: Of course you can. Who said you couldn't just because 956 00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:10,879 Speaker 1: you haven't seen it in a long time happen there? 957 00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:14,760 Speaker 1: It's always been possible. That's why we have such immense 958 00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,520 Speaker 1: respect for the places where it doesn't happen. Because you 959 00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:19,600 Speaker 1: don't have to let your foot off the gas very 960 00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,959 Speaker 1: long in a NASCAR race before you're off the pace 961 00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:26,879 Speaker 1: totally and the entire pack has passed you by. It's 962 00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,880 Speaker 1: hard to keep winning. It's really hard to do it. 963 00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:34,000 Speaker 1: So if that's really what happened last year. Everything's explainable. 964 00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:37,360 Speaker 1: The horrific defensive numbers, if they really did tear it 965 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,640 Speaker 1: down and build it back from scratch, that's all explainable 966 00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,640 Speaker 1: as long as that's what's happened. And internally a lot 967 00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:45,640 Speaker 1: of that you can't know. You can know what you 968 00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,320 Speaker 1: watch on the field on Saturday, you can read practice reports, 969 00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:51,200 Speaker 1: but a lot of what's happening internally culture wise, if 970 00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,359 Speaker 1: they really are tearing it down to build it back up, 971 00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:56,439 Speaker 1: and that's a bitter pill to swallow in year one, 972 00:50:56,880 --> 00:51:00,920 Speaker 1: but it's explainable. I'm most fascinated with people who have 973 00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:03,400 Speaker 1: given up on him now. I always wish that I 974 00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,239 Speaker 1: could just get a focus group of one hundred of 975 00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:09,840 Speaker 1: you and myself included, and we could all wager really 976 00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:13,320 Speaker 1: substantial money, like money that we can't afford to lose 977 00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:17,880 Speaker 1: on our opinion of any given topic. So in this case, 978 00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:22,399 Speaker 1: if you're giving up on Brent Venables, you're saying he's 979 00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,319 Speaker 1: not gonna win at Oklahoma, you've seen everything you think 980 00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,719 Speaker 1: you need to see after one football season, and it 981 00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:29,200 Speaker 1: happens to be the guy's first year ever as a 982 00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:32,920 Speaker 1: head coach. That fascinates me. Maybe you end up being right. 983 00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:37,040 Speaker 1: That fascinates me. I would never tell you. I think 984 00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:41,000 Speaker 1: I've seen enough of that guy after year one. I'm 985 00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:44,840 Speaker 1: also not telling you slam dunk watch and see you'll 986 00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:48,319 Speaker 1: eat those words. He will take o you to the mountaintop. 987 00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:52,040 Speaker 1: I'm not talking like that. Very reserved about it, still 988 00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:55,360 Speaker 1: very much on the fence. I do notice two things. 989 00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,560 Speaker 1: The first thing I notice is they are having no 990 00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:03,200 Speaker 1: problem whatsoever acquire ring talent. You may say Oklahoma's always recruited, well, 991 00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:07,160 Speaker 1: not quite this well, not quite this, Well, they are 992 00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,840 Speaker 1: way up there. And in the portal they've been a 993 00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,000 Speaker 1: top ten portal team. They've been a top ten recruiting 994 00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:15,319 Speaker 1: team both cycles since he's been there. I know you 995 00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,600 Speaker 1: got to do stuff with it once it gets on campus, 996 00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,880 Speaker 1: but that's one great, big sigh of relief for me personally, 997 00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:23,680 Speaker 1: because I didn't know what kind of recruiter he was 998 00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:25,280 Speaker 1: going to be. I didn't know what kind of recruiter 999 00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,600 Speaker 1: that staff was going to be. So that's the first 1000 00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:29,960 Speaker 1: thing I've noticed. The second thing I've noticed is he 1001 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,799 Speaker 1: hadn't lost any of his own fan base. Well, it's 1002 00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:36,319 Speaker 1: normally the other way around, the folks closest to the 1003 00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:40,760 Speaker 1: situation normally sniff out a loser long before the general 1004 00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:45,640 Speaker 1: public does. At Oklahoma, the folks closest to the situation 1005 00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,640 Speaker 1: are fully bought in on Brenton Venables, and they make 1006 00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:50,800 Speaker 1: no bones about the fact that last year wasn't good enough. 1007 00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,799 Speaker 1: The difference is they've got a pretty good sense that 1008 00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,680 Speaker 1: in retrospect it was probably necessary to get where we 1009 00:52:56,719 --> 00:53:01,080 Speaker 1: think he's taking us, whereas people outside of that Crimson 1010 00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,160 Speaker 1: and Cream circle, they're looking at it and saying, never 1011 00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:07,480 Speaker 1: gonna happen. Dudes, a fraud, dudes a defensive coordinator at best. 1012 00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:12,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna lean towards Oklahoma folks. I'm a leaning towards 1013 00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:14,400 Speaker 1: them because I've watched fan base his punt after one 1014 00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,319 Speaker 1: year on a coach and after two years on a coach, 1015 00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,239 Speaker 1: and sometimes they're right and sometimes there wrong, but at 1016 00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:20,880 Speaker 1: least their opinions are a little more guided because they 1017 00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,240 Speaker 1: follow the program day to day. The folks who follow 1018 00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:26,440 Speaker 1: this program day to day just watched their coach lose 1019 00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:30,359 Speaker 1: in horrific fashion. In some cases they got shut out, 1020 00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:34,440 Speaker 1: like half one hundred to nothing against Texas, and oh 1021 00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,040 Speaker 1: you fans are still all in on that guy. I 1022 00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:39,879 Speaker 1: don't make nothing out of that. I make something out 1023 00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,239 Speaker 1: of that. And that's the general attitude I got. I 1024 00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,120 Speaker 1: would probably say if I were to take a straw 1025 00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,880 Speaker 1: poll of the thousands of comments we gone on this today, 1026 00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,880 Speaker 1: I would say more than fifty percent of you who 1027 00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:54,440 Speaker 1: were agnostic to the program don't believe in Brenton Venables. 1028 00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:57,040 Speaker 1: So there is a sizeable portion of what we call 1029 00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,480 Speaker 1: the college football public, the public that doesn't think he's 1030 00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:03,879 Speaker 1: gonna win. I am not down that road yet. I'm 1031 00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:06,280 Speaker 1: kind of standing at the intersection. I am Tom Hanks 1032 00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:10,279 Speaker 1: at the very end of Castaway. There's that intersection out 1033 00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:12,680 Speaker 1: in the middle of nowhere, and he just parks the jeep. 1034 00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,840 Speaker 1: He gets out, and he's got that big old plastic 1035 00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,680 Speaker 1: bottle of water, and he's just standing there. And that 1036 00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:21,719 Speaker 1: girl pulls up and says, you can go that way, Canada, 1037 00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:25,600 Speaker 1: that way, Mexico, California, Virginia. Which way do you want 1038 00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:27,200 Speaker 1: to go? I'm just gonna stand here for a second. 1039 00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,719 Speaker 1: So here I am at the intersection of Brenton Venables 1040 00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:33,520 Speaker 1: year one to year two. He could either be playing 1041 00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:36,480 Speaker 1: in the playoff in twenty twenty four, or they could 1042 00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:39,040 Speaker 1: be running a coaching search in twenty twenty. I don't know. 1043 00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:42,520 Speaker 1: I have no clue. He's a heck of a defensive coordinator, 1044 00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:47,719 Speaker 1: though heck of a defensive mind. Hopefully, hopefully that expertise 1045 00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:51,080 Speaker 1: is surrounded by the right people there. Hopefully he got 1046 00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:53,440 Speaker 1: the right people in there. They got Jackson Arnold, one 1047 00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,240 Speaker 1: of the best quarterbacks in the country. That is waiting 1048 00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,160 Speaker 1: in the wings, or who is waiting in the wings, 1049 00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:00,799 Speaker 1: and that's with Dylan Gabriel start and form this year. 1050 00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:04,239 Speaker 1: So I am not sold. I have not sold, and 1051 00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,480 Speaker 1: also am not sold. That is called riding the fence, 1052 00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:09,479 Speaker 1: and the key to that is to keep the post 1053 00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:12,960 Speaker 1: in your mouth. All right, Houston, Texas tuned in Jacksonville Beach, Florida, 1054 00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:17,680 Speaker 1: tuned in Olympia. Washington is tuned in Jesse. Probably thinks 1055 00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:21,839 Speaker 1: the capital is Seattle, but it's not. Let us move 1056 00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:26,800 Speaker 1: to bold predictions. Fifth a record, fifth sip from the chalice. 1057 00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:31,920 Speaker 1: It always occurs to me, and trust me, I'm going 1058 00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:35,080 Speaker 1: to address this. Actually the next segment, I'm going to 1059 00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:38,560 Speaker 1: address some of the criticisms towards this show. One of 1060 00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:42,160 Speaker 1: them is there's some inside jokes on this show that 1061 00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:46,680 Speaker 1: we don't explain, and you're right about that. Candidly, we 1062 00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:50,400 Speaker 1: probably need to do one of those inside nomenclature refreshers 1063 00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:52,600 Speaker 1: because it's been a while. Don't worry. That's coming up 1064 00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:55,920 Speaker 1: in like eight minutes. Bold Prediction time. What are you 1065 00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:58,239 Speaker 1: thinking about this year? What are you predicting this year? 1066 00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,879 Speaker 1: Do you guys actually believe some of this stuff? Because 1067 00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:04,279 Speaker 1: I'm telling you we've got our first ten on the 1068 00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:06,839 Speaker 1: Bold Prediction one to ten scale tonight, and I got 1069 00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:10,560 Speaker 1: two more of them rated nine or higher. I'm not 1070 00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:12,600 Speaker 1: calling you a liar, but I am at the very 1071 00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:15,320 Speaker 1: least questioning whether you guys believe this. Okay, first Bold 1072 00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:21,279 Speaker 1: Prediction Florida beats Utah again, this is acceptable, right, They 1073 00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:23,080 Speaker 1: were going to play in Salt Lake City. It is 1074 00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:27,160 Speaker 1: a Thursday night game in Week one. Florida is a 1075 00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:29,520 Speaker 1: nine and a half point underdog. Right now. Last year 1076 00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:31,959 Speaker 1: this was a classic down in Gainsville. Looked like Utah 1077 00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:34,200 Speaker 1: had it and then they didn't because that's how college 1078 00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:37,359 Speaker 1: football works. And Utah loses twenty nine to twenty six. 1079 00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:44,160 Speaker 1: Cam Rising, who on one hand produces this show, but 1080 00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:47,200 Speaker 1: in a much more real sense, is the starting quarterback 1081 00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,319 Speaker 1: for Utah. You guys want to know what producer Jesse 1082 00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:51,200 Speaker 1: looks like. You want to know if he's real or not. 1083 00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:54,040 Speaker 1: You don't need to have a picture of him. Just 1084 00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:59,920 Speaker 1: look at Cam Rising's picture, indistinguishable identical twins, Cam Rising 1085 00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:05,480 Speaker 1: and Producer Jesse. So Cam Rising health wise, is he 1086 00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:07,600 Speaker 1: gonna be good to go in week one? Because I 1087 00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:09,560 Speaker 1: don't go a long way in deciding this one. And 1088 00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:12,080 Speaker 1: then Graham Mertz, we don't think there's any injury concerned 1089 00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,120 Speaker 1: with him. I just have no clue what caliber quarterback 1090 00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:17,160 Speaker 1: he's gonna be. What should I expect? I expect Florida 1091 00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,200 Speaker 1: to have a really, really good ground game, and they 1092 00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:21,880 Speaker 1: need it because if they're going to duplicate last year's result, 1093 00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:24,200 Speaker 1: if they're pulling the upset here, it sure would help 1094 00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:25,800 Speaker 1: to have two hundred and eighty three on the ground. 1095 00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:28,800 Speaker 1: A lot of that was Anthony Richardson last year. You 1096 00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:30,920 Speaker 1: get me the yards, however, you get them, you're popping 1097 00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,080 Speaker 1: off about six or seven yards per carry against Utah 1098 00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:36,600 Speaker 1: on the road. You've quieted a crowd and you've given 1099 00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:38,800 Speaker 1: yourself a shot to win it in the fourth quarter. However, 1100 00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:41,360 Speaker 1: because of the nine and a half points spread, on 1101 00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:46,080 Speaker 1: this game. Florida beating Utah is an eight. Yeah, just 1102 00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:47,520 Speaker 1: an eight. I'm not gonna go eight in a quarter. 1103 00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:49,960 Speaker 1: It's an eight on the boldness scale. I don't think 1104 00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:51,440 Speaker 1: it's the craziest thing in the world. And one of 1105 00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:54,320 Speaker 1: our Florida viewers sent me a very long email the 1106 00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:57,880 Speaker 1: other day early julys why I Love you guys, where 1107 00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:00,640 Speaker 1: he spelled out all the reasons Lord is gonna win 1108 00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:04,480 Speaker 1: this game. And it was intriguing. It was intriguing. I 1109 00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:06,680 Speaker 1: would be lying if I said I didn't raise my 1110 00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:09,320 Speaker 1: eyebrow time or two. All right, next up, this is 1111 00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:12,840 Speaker 1: where we really get in the weeds. We why not? 1112 00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:18,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna payper pop for this one. Rob from Celebration 1113 00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:23,000 Speaker 1: Florida something they should probably need. I hope they can 1114 00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:24,640 Speaker 1: do more of that down there in Florida this year. 1115 00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:27,800 Speaker 1: But Rob from Celebration Florida says Notre Dame will make 1116 00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:33,000 Speaker 1: the playoff and win a semi final game. Okay, so 1117 00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:34,840 Speaker 1: they're going to the national title game. That's what he's 1118 00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:39,560 Speaker 1: telling me. Rob, this is a nine point five. That's harsh, right, Well, 1119 00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:43,160 Speaker 1: here's my take on this. The odds to make the 1120 00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:47,480 Speaker 1: college football playoff Notre Dame is fourteenth in those odds. 1121 00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:51,360 Speaker 1: Not astronomical over underwent total eight and a half, fourteenth 1122 00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:54,120 Speaker 1: best odds to make the playoffs. So you know plus 1123 00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,439 Speaker 1: seven fifty if you're interested in the money line, that's 1124 00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:58,000 Speaker 1: where we are. That's to win the title, not to 1125 00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:00,560 Speaker 1: make the playoff. So they're fourteenth in line to win 1126 00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:03,600 Speaker 1: the title. Okay, but we've seen teams come from deeper 1127 00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:05,600 Speaker 1: than that. I mean, TCU was nowhere on the radar 1128 00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:11,320 Speaker 1: last year. It's that time of year. I have started 1129 00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:13,960 Speaker 1: to be told that Notre Dame plays a week schedule. 1130 00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:17,760 Speaker 1: So producer Jesse got fed up today and he walks 1131 00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:21,720 Speaker 1: in and he says, hey, I said, excuse me. He said, sir, 1132 00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:25,320 Speaker 1: what if I told you that there is one team 1133 00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:28,560 Speaker 1: out there in all of FBS that plays at least 1134 00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:32,760 Speaker 1: three opponents with a preseason win total of ten or higher. 1135 00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:37,880 Speaker 1: I said, I would be intrigued. Boomst is it? He said, 1136 00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:42,000 Speaker 1: it's Notre Dame. They play seven teams with a win 1137 00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:44,040 Speaker 1: total of six and a half or higher. They play 1138 00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:46,280 Speaker 1: three with a win total of ten or higher. They 1139 00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:48,760 Speaker 1: go to NC State this year, they go to Louisville. 1140 00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:51,120 Speaker 1: They go to Duke, they go to Clemson, they got 1141 00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:54,360 Speaker 1: Ohio State and USC at home. It is not an 1142 00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:58,160 Speaker 1: easy schedule. It never is a soft schedule. Here's what 1143 00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:01,560 Speaker 1: you guys are looking for. What you're looking for is 1144 01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:04,960 Speaker 1: Notre Dame doesn't play the literal toughest schedule in the country. 1145 01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:10,040 Speaker 1: They play a pretty difficult to moderately difficult schedule. That 1146 01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:14,440 Speaker 1: would be fine. There's this one to ten knob and 1147 01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:17,120 Speaker 1: some of you need to learn to turn it to six. 1148 01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:20,760 Speaker 1: It doesn't always have to be zero or ten. Sometimes 1149 01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:25,000 Speaker 1: Notre Dame plays pretty tough schedule. Instead, if it's not 1150 01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:28,800 Speaker 1: the hardest one in the country, cream puffs, it be better. 1151 01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:31,320 Speaker 1: Let's just all be better. I'm gonna make this one 1152 01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:34,760 Speaker 1: a nine point five. Making it versus winning it two 1153 01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:37,000 Speaker 1: different things. Now. Rob just predicted they're gonna make the 1154 01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:39,680 Speaker 1: title game, but I still make that a nine point 1155 01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:42,760 Speaker 1: five Notre Dame in the National championship game. Say it 1156 01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:46,360 Speaker 1: out loud wherever you are, including Irish fans. How bold 1157 01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:47,800 Speaker 1: do you think that is? I think it's a nine 1158 01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:54,120 Speaker 1: point five. Next up, this one is from Andre in 1159 01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:57,520 Speaker 1: Grove City, Ohio. He said the Big twelve championship game 1160 01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:02,640 Speaker 1: will not be a rematch from the regular season. Well, 1161 01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:07,000 Speaker 1: that requires some pate state mathematics. So this used to 1162 01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:11,120 Speaker 1: be nearly impossible. They just expanded the conference like five 1163 01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:13,280 Speaker 1: minutes ago. So it used to be you played nine 1164 01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:18,400 Speaker 1: conference games in a league with ten or whatever it was, 1165 01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:21,000 Speaker 1: so you only missed one team every year. I think 1166 01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:23,120 Speaker 1: it was for a little while. Well now they play 1167 01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:27,680 Speaker 1: nine conference games and they've got fourteen teams out there, 1168 01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:29,720 Speaker 1: so they're thirteen of them you could possibly play, so 1169 01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:33,840 Speaker 1: you miss four of them every year. So we do 1170 01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:38,080 Speaker 1: have some windows here. Now, who's the most likely to 1171 01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:41,200 Speaker 1: make the conference championship game? We can only go off 1172 01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:45,600 Speaker 1: odds and Oklahoma it should be noted they don't play 1173 01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:48,240 Speaker 1: Kansas State in the regular season, so that's one oh 1174 01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:50,880 Speaker 1: U Kansas State would work here. They don't play Texas Tech, 1175 01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:57,320 Speaker 1: they don't play Baylor, Oklahoma State, they missed Texas Texas Tech, TCU, 1176 01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:00,960 Speaker 1: and Baylor and Texas Will Tech plays like all the 1177 01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:03,760 Speaker 1: top teams. So you're probably if you want this to happen, 1178 01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:06,200 Speaker 1: if you want for there to be a unique matchup 1179 01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:09,760 Speaker 1: that's not a rematch in the conference title game, chances 1180 01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:11,040 Speaker 1: are someone's going to have to come out of the 1181 01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:14,480 Speaker 1: state of Oklahoma. I am going to make this a 1182 01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:19,440 Speaker 1: nine on the boldness scale only because Oklahoma, Oklahoma, and 1183 01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:21,320 Speaker 1: Kansas State are number two and number three in the 1184 01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:24,720 Speaker 1: preseason nods. Oklahoma and Texas Tech are number two and 1185 01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:28,560 Speaker 1: number four in the preseason odds. Oklahoma and Baylor are 1186 01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:32,120 Speaker 1: two and six in the preseason ods. These are feasible. 1187 01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:34,840 Speaker 1: It's just really hard to pick a specific matchup. It's 1188 01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:36,720 Speaker 1: hard to nail that, especially when we have so many, 1189 01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:40,920 Speaker 1: so many potential rematches happening. Lastly, this is what we 1190 01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:43,720 Speaker 1: call a classic direct column. Producer Jesse special in the 1191 01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:48,680 Speaker 1: business Russell said, Tennessee versus Penn State for the National Championship. 1192 01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:54,720 Speaker 1: It's that time, friends. We have not had one all year, 1193 01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:58,360 Speaker 1: but Russell, you found a way. This is a ten 1194 01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:01,840 Speaker 1: on the boldness scale. Penn State versus Tennessee in the 1195 01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:05,680 Speaker 1: National Championship game is a ten on the boldness scale. 1196 01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:09,880 Speaker 1: Neither one of them have ever made the playoff, neither 1197 01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:12,080 Speaker 1: one of them are inside the top nine in the 1198 01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:15,080 Speaker 1: preseason odds, and so not only are we asking to 1199 01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:18,760 Speaker 1: overcome those hurdles, we're asking for things to shake out 1200 01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:21,240 Speaker 1: where they play each other for the title, so they 1201 01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:23,560 Speaker 1: don't face each other in the semi final. They've both 1202 01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:26,000 Speaker 1: got to make it, they've both got to win semi 1203 01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:28,160 Speaker 1: final games and a playoff. Neither has ever even been to. 1204 01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:33,480 Speaker 1: There is no skill in predicting this, obviously. Also, if 1205 01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:35,280 Speaker 1: you pick some of the big boys, If you pick 1206 01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:38,080 Speaker 1: Georgia versus Ohio State for the national title game, I'd 1207 01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:40,400 Speaker 1: still make it like a seven point seventy five on 1208 01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:44,480 Speaker 1: the boldness scale, just because it's that statistically unlikely you're 1209 01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:48,240 Speaker 1: gonna pick the exact matchup. But when it's Tennessee, all 1210 01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:51,640 Speaker 1: due respect versus Penn State, all due respect, Nah, that's 1211 01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:54,920 Speaker 1: a ten. That's our first ten. I don't know if 1212 01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:58,960 Speaker 1: congratulations are in order, but Russell, paper, Pop and everything 1213 01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:02,520 Speaker 1: in between. A ten. Now, that doesn't mean it's not 1214 01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:05,840 Speaker 1: gonna happen. It just means if it does, I probably 1215 01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:08,080 Speaker 1: send you a chaalice of supremacy or probably something in 1216 01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:10,800 Speaker 1: the peyt State store. Because if I say that your 1217 01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:14,280 Speaker 1: prediction is a ten and your prediction pans out, that 1218 01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:17,320 Speaker 1: makes me pretty much a liar, or as close to 1219 01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:19,240 Speaker 1: it as we'll ever get to accusing ourselves of being 1220 01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:22,240 Speaker 1: a liar on this show. Now, I would not accuse 1221 01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:25,120 Speaker 1: myself of that, but boy, some of you would do 1222 01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:28,760 Speaker 1: me a favor before I enter into a JP bashfest. 1223 01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:31,200 Speaker 1: Here for a couple of minutes. If you're watching live, 1224 01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:33,240 Speaker 1: we have four hundred and twenty likes on this thing, 1225 01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:35,919 Speaker 1: and we have like five times that many people watching live. 1226 01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:39,000 Speaker 1: Just click the thumbs up button. Producer Jesse tells me 1227 01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:41,800 Speaker 1: that's harder to do if you're watching on TV. Just 1228 01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:45,360 Speaker 1: find a way. Life finds a way. Why can't you 1229 01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:47,600 Speaker 1: find a way to like the video? It helps us, 1230 01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:55,600 Speaker 1: greatly helps us. So they say that you should never 1231 01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:59,360 Speaker 1: meet your heroes in person. They say that you should 1232 01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:02,960 Speaker 1: never wear why after Labor Day, certainly a rule that 1233 01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:05,640 Speaker 1: doesn't fly on this show. They also say you should 1234 01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:10,320 Speaker 1: never google your name, and that's usually for good reason. Well, 1235 01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:14,480 Speaker 1: here's the problem. Producer Jesse did it anyway, and producer 1236 01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:17,600 Speaker 1: Producer Jesse alerted me the other day to Colin, I 1237 01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:20,400 Speaker 1: actually don't like that at all. Here's your endpoint. Producer 1238 01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:22,760 Speaker 1: Jesse alerted me the other day that there was a 1239 01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:26,920 Speaker 1: very very lengthy thread over on the Reddit college football 1240 01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:31,240 Speaker 1: page where people were comparing us versus Joel Clap. I 1241 01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:34,280 Speaker 1: love Clatt show. So my recommendation to you if you're 1242 01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:37,360 Speaker 1: trying to choose either or is listen to both because 1243 01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:39,840 Speaker 1: it's an on demand world now and so you get 1244 01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:43,080 Speaker 1: to listen at your convenience. I really actually don't get 1245 01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:46,280 Speaker 1: that part of the debate. However, we went through this 1246 01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:49,320 Speaker 1: thing which I normally don't do, and I got some 1247 01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:51,560 Speaker 1: pretty good feedback from you guys. Now, some of you 1248 01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:54,880 Speaker 1: were mean, and some of you went to personal attacks, 1249 01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:58,000 Speaker 1: but that's okay. It is the internet, after all. However, 1250 01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:00,919 Speaker 1: some of you had some constructive feedback, and I wanted 1251 01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:02,960 Speaker 1: you to know I read it, and I wanted you 1252 01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:04,960 Speaker 1: to know. When you said things like you think the 1253 01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:08,800 Speaker 1: show's been too repetitive with specific themes over the past 1254 01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:12,880 Speaker 1: couple of months, I agree with you. Unbeknownst to you, 1255 01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:16,720 Speaker 1: that was already written in my own grades for myself 1256 01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:19,720 Speaker 1: and was something that we were already aiming to address, 1257 01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:22,520 Speaker 1: because when I go back and I look, yeah, we 1258 01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:26,439 Speaker 1: have been too repetitive on some things. Also, you guys said, 1259 01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:28,040 Speaker 1: some of you, not all of you. Some of you 1260 01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:30,880 Speaker 1: said too many teams are mentioned over and over and 1261 01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:33,000 Speaker 1: over again. Now, obviously there is a reason for that, 1262 01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:35,840 Speaker 1: somewhat if I talk about Ohio State, it does us 1263 01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:39,920 Speaker 1: a whole lot more favor than talking about filling the blank. 1264 01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:41,400 Speaker 1: I don't want to throw anyone under the bus. I 1265 01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:43,680 Speaker 1: used to use Akron all the time, but the people 1266 01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:46,000 Speaker 1: at Acron got mad because they said, why do you 1267 01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:48,400 Speaker 1: keep picking on us or like five hundred other programs 1268 01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:51,720 Speaker 1: out there. So I'm not going to do it, but yeah, 1269 01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:55,320 Speaker 1: business wise, it makes more sense. However, Look, if you're 1270 01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:58,680 Speaker 1: running a high level operation, which we fancy this show 1271 01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:00,959 Speaker 1: as being one, we should be able to talk about 1272 01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:03,760 Speaker 1: anything and keep someone's attention. And also I should be 1273 01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:06,240 Speaker 1: able to present Virginia football for a minute and a 1274 01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:08,400 Speaker 1: half to you in a way that doesn't make you 1275 01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:11,080 Speaker 1: go to sleep. It's tough, but it's a challenge I'm 1276 01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:13,520 Speaker 1: willing to take on. So those two bits of feedback 1277 01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:16,680 Speaker 1: two repetitive at times and talking about the same few 1278 01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:19,720 Speaker 1: teams over and over again. Although the second alley to 1279 01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:22,840 Speaker 1: get allegation is not entirely true, there is some truth 1280 01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:25,320 Speaker 1: to it. So I listened, and so we're going to 1281 01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:28,760 Speaker 1: address that. I did want to address some of the 1282 01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:31,680 Speaker 1: other allegations and some of the other complaints some of 1283 01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:33,880 Speaker 1: you said the show is not enough X's and O's. 1284 01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:36,440 Speaker 1: It never will be. That's not my forte. It's not 1285 01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:39,000 Speaker 1: my strong suit. If you want me to, I'll be 1286 01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:41,440 Speaker 1: happy to direct you to some folks who do that. 1287 01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:44,040 Speaker 1: I had Cublic on the other day. He texted me 1288 01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:48,200 Speaker 1: every show, and I talked to him frequently because candidly, 1289 01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:50,600 Speaker 1: I think he's one of the best out there at 1290 01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:53,080 Speaker 1: that he's got a mixture of personality and x as 1291 01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:55,160 Speaker 1: and O's knowledge Cube show. By the way, if you 1292 01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:57,800 Speaker 1: want to go check out the YouTube channel. In a 1293 01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:02,600 Speaker 1: perfect world, we have a group of pods or shows 1294 01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:07,240 Speaker 1: that you're probably watching, and ours is a lot more conversational. 1295 01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:09,600 Speaker 1: Ours is a lot more water cooler. Now, I'll dive 1296 01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:13,120 Speaker 1: deep occasionally on stuff will We're well sourced. We get 1297 01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:15,480 Speaker 1: a lot of really good intel and information on the show. 1298 01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:17,960 Speaker 1: But it's never gonna be Ex's nose. There's no grease 1299 01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:20,160 Speaker 1: born in here. I didn't play or coach the game 1300 01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:22,400 Speaker 1: at a high level. How stupid would I be to 1301 01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:25,040 Speaker 1: try and X's and Owes you to death? It would 1302 01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:26,920 Speaker 1: be the death of me if I've tried to do that. 1303 01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:28,720 Speaker 1: So no, that's not the kind of show that you're 1304 01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:32,680 Speaker 1: watching here. You said, some of you said a lot 1305 01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:34,960 Speaker 1: of opinion, but not a whole lot of analysis. Now 1306 01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:37,160 Speaker 1: I can tell that's just folks who haven't watched the 1307 01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:40,000 Speaker 1: show during the season. There's plenty of analysis during the season. 1308 01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:42,240 Speaker 1: There are no games happening right now. I'm not sure 1309 01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:44,280 Speaker 1: what you think is going to get analyzed in July. 1310 01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:48,760 Speaker 1: Paid is never negative. I can also tell that those 1311 01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:51,080 Speaker 1: are folks who haven't watched during the season. I do 1312 01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:53,240 Speaker 1: have a general philosophy. There is not a lot of 1313 01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:57,080 Speaker 1: negativity on the show, but especially in the spring and summer. 1314 01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:02,240 Speaker 1: Why would you be negative? And in summer nothing's happened, 1315 01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:05,800 Speaker 1: no games have happened, and so yeah, guilty is charged. 1316 01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:08,679 Speaker 1: I guess depending on the time of the year. Sec Homer, 1317 01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:12,240 Speaker 1: We've addressed this a million times. You would probably structure 1318 01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:15,000 Speaker 1: your show no different than I structure mine if you 1319 01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:18,000 Speaker 1: did a national show, once you got the data that 1320 01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:22,320 Speaker 1: we get. That's all I'll say on that I said 1321 01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:24,719 Speaker 1: the word earlier. I got an itch on my nose. 1322 01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:27,080 Speaker 1: Oh that that's not the word I said. I said 1323 01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:31,960 Speaker 1: this word earlier. Condescending. There were some accusations of being condescending, 1324 01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:37,040 Speaker 1: and I'll address those in a second. Someone did get 1325 01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:39,400 Speaker 1: a laugh out of this. Someone said, I choose peate 1326 01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:41,719 Speaker 1: and it's not close. And then one of our viewers 1327 01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:43,200 Speaker 1: came in in the comment section and said, you know, 1328 01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:46,840 Speaker 1: he doesn't like that, right, Beautiful laughed until I cried 1329 01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:49,800 Speaker 1: when I read that. Okay, So for the folks who 1330 01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:53,639 Speaker 1: use condescending or for those of you who just complained 1331 01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:57,960 Speaker 1: about some of the other ins and outs and inside 1332 01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:01,240 Speaker 1: nomenclature of the show, here's here's the balance I try 1333 01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:04,639 Speaker 1: and strike. So this show's blown up really really big. 1334 01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:09,360 Speaker 1: We got bonkers numbers, and there's a really really communal 1335 01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:11,960 Speaker 1: feel to it, and I know that we build it 1336 01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:14,000 Speaker 1: that way intentionally. As you start to build a product, 1337 01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:15,599 Speaker 1: as you start to build a show that's got a 1338 01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:18,439 Speaker 1: really really community based feel to it, the risk you 1339 01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:22,840 Speaker 1: run is the further you get into that and the 1340 01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:27,400 Speaker 1: bigger that the community becomes, you never take time to 1341 01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:31,000 Speaker 1: introduce new people to the community because it's so big 1342 01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:32,760 Speaker 1: at that point you don't have time to do that 1343 01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:36,720 Speaker 1: every show. And so the bigger the community gets, the 1344 01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:40,840 Speaker 1: more layered it becomes, and the more inside references there are, 1345 01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:44,280 Speaker 1: and the more unique layering there is, and the more 1346 01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:47,240 Speaker 1: unique culture there is even within that show, and it 1347 01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:50,880 Speaker 1: looks weird. It looks strange to an outsider because they 1348 01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:53,960 Speaker 1: haven't been baked into it yet. So I think this 1349 01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:55,800 Speaker 1: is a valid criticism too, that we'll try and do 1350 01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:59,280 Speaker 1: a better job of. I can't literally explain everything to 1351 01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:01,680 Speaker 1: you every show. I do think that there are some 1352 01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:04,040 Speaker 1: people who may be turned off by certain aspects of 1353 01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:06,479 Speaker 1: what we do or confused by certain aspects of what 1354 01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:09,519 Speaker 1: we do. If you watch one or two shows that 1355 01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:12,519 Speaker 1: would be hardcore into what we do. If you watched 1356 01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:15,240 Speaker 1: one or two dozen shows or listened to one or 1357 01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:18,320 Speaker 1: two dozen shows, I'll also say this, it's a way 1358 01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:20,040 Speaker 1: different show in the season than it is out of 1359 01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:23,680 Speaker 1: the season. And that's probably the case everywhere. But I 1360 01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:27,759 Speaker 1: read it. I read the reddit thread. I did not comment, 1361 01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:32,120 Speaker 1: not even with a burner yet that may change, but 1362 01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:36,720 Speaker 1: appreciate the feedback. It did help. I did take it 1363 01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:39,599 Speaker 1: under advisement, and I will continue to do so. Can 1364 01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:46,840 Speaker 1: you believe that Jesse condescending? Not I not I. It's 1365 01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:52,000 Speaker 1: just fun. It's just fun. It's a joke. That's what 1366 01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:54,240 Speaker 1: it is most of the time. So when I talked 1367 01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:57,479 Speaker 1: that way, if you've watched four hundred of our shows, 1368 01:11:57,560 --> 01:12:01,040 Speaker 1: you get it. If you've watched forty minutes of one show, 1369 01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:05,439 Speaker 1: maybe you don't get it. But I am very humbled 1370 01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:08,400 Speaker 1: and privileged to be able to do this. No one 1371 01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:11,160 Speaker 1: gets how big a privilege this is more than me. 1372 01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:14,160 Speaker 1: If you know my story, you know why I feel 1373 01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:16,680 Speaker 1: that way. The last thing that I'm about to do 1374 01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:20,360 Speaker 1: is be intentionally condescending. I may have a strong opinion 1375 01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:22,960 Speaker 1: every now and then, or if I seem like I 1376 01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:26,679 Speaker 1: actually am speaking with condescension dripping out of the mouth, 1377 01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:29,439 Speaker 1: it's cause I'm joking with you. That's what that is, 1378 01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:32,559 Speaker 1: one way or the other. Lastly, on the show tonight, 1379 01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:37,200 Speaker 1: Big Twelve Media Days wrapping up, and I was checking 1380 01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:39,800 Speaker 1: out some of the coverage and Uncle Dennis is out there, 1381 01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:42,559 Speaker 1: Dennis Dodd, who will also we will welcome him to 1382 01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:45,519 Speaker 1: Nashville next week for SEC Media Days. I think that 1383 01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:48,960 Speaker 1: right there, the Big Twelve may be the most fun 1384 01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:51,360 Speaker 1: group of coaches to cover out of any conference in 1385 01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:53,960 Speaker 1: America right now. I was thinking about this earlier. I 1386 01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:57,120 Speaker 1: bounced it off some people, so Venables is out there. 1387 01:12:57,160 --> 01:12:59,000 Speaker 1: We just talked about him a lot earlier in the show, 1388 01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:03,439 Speaker 1: and you got that whole orbit of conversation around Brenton Venables. 1389 01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:07,360 Speaker 1: Sark is out there and any head coach at Texas 1390 01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:10,040 Speaker 1: always generates a lot of conversation. But think about like 1391 01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:14,599 Speaker 1: Joey McGuire from Texas Tech. People find out he's already 1392 01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:17,559 Speaker 1: officiated two weddings, he's got a third coming up next spring. 1393 01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:22,280 Speaker 1: That dude is like a very very hyper high school 1394 01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:24,040 Speaker 1: football coach, cause that's what he was, and all of 1395 01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:26,400 Speaker 1: a sudden, he's running a major college football program but 1396 01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:29,680 Speaker 1: with that same high school kind of energy, and everyone 1397 01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:32,200 Speaker 1: loves him, and they're recruiting well out there, and they 1398 01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:33,800 Speaker 1: got a really good culture. They got the fourth best 1399 01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:36,599 Speaker 1: os and win the conference this year. Dave Randa, on 1400 01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:39,000 Speaker 1: the other side of the state, is as stoic as 1401 01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:43,240 Speaker 1: they come, as brutally honest as they come. Randa, let 1402 01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:45,960 Speaker 1: me tell you something. I'll talk about Randa right now. 1403 01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:48,200 Speaker 1: Dave Randa is one of my favorite coaches I've ever 1404 01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:50,840 Speaker 1: been around, and I've only been around him once, but 1405 01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:55,240 Speaker 1: that was an interaction that left a lasting impression on me. 1406 01:13:56,600 --> 01:14:01,400 Speaker 1: And Dave Randa he is very measured. He's the opposite 1407 01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:03,160 Speaker 1: of what I've been for the past thirty seconds. He 1408 01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:08,920 Speaker 1: talks very slow, he's very measured, but he is not 1409 01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:12,800 Speaker 1: scared to critique himself publicly. And he did it again 1410 01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:16,760 Speaker 1: at Big Twelve media days, and he said, there are 1411 01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:19,280 Speaker 1: three things that I really wish I could do different 1412 01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:22,519 Speaker 1: about last year. He said, I did not embrace the 1413 01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:24,920 Speaker 1: transfer portal, and I should have and now we got 1414 01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:27,439 Speaker 1: an uphill battle on our hands as a result of that. 1415 01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:31,720 Speaker 1: He said, I tried to save some people instead of 1416 01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:34,080 Speaker 1: having boundaries, and really that bled into the third thing 1417 01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:37,559 Speaker 1: he talked about, where it was I cared too much 1418 01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:41,400 Speaker 1: about saving maybe some individuals, and I didn't value what 1419 01:14:41,439 --> 01:14:44,360 Speaker 1: was best for the team. That's tough. It's one of 1420 01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:49,200 Speaker 1: a million different difficult things that are coming along with 1421 01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:53,160 Speaker 1: being a head coach or running an organization. Hey, pretty 1422 01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:55,840 Speaker 1: much every head coach deals with that. He'll talk about 1423 01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:58,519 Speaker 1: it publicly. I've always appreciated that about him. Now, as 1424 01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:02,759 Speaker 1: for Texas, Texas is favored to win the Big Twelve 1425 01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:04,880 Speaker 1: this year. For all I know, Texas is going to 1426 01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:06,559 Speaker 1: go to the playoff. But I'm telling you right now, 1427 01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:09,920 Speaker 1: when I heard Quinn Ewers say quote, we got kind 1428 01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:13,840 Speaker 1: of addicted to doing abs, hitting biceps and triceps, you know, 1429 01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:18,160 Speaker 1: all that stuff. It was just fun red flag, red 1430 01:15:18,160 --> 01:15:23,760 Speaker 1: flag popcorn muscle workouts, red flag. Now. Fortunately, I know 1431 01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:26,680 Speaker 1: the strength and conditioning set up out there at Texas, 1432 01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:28,880 Speaker 1: and so I know they're working more than buys and 1433 01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:32,479 Speaker 1: tries and abs. It is not a beach body workout 1434 01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:38,200 Speaker 1: in Austin, Texas. But it's a big one. Actually it's 1435 01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:40,200 Speaker 1: not because they're not working glutes. As it turns out, 1436 01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:46,120 Speaker 1: buys and tries and abs get you knocked off the ball. 1437 01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:48,599 Speaker 1: That's what happens. I know a lot of you out there, 1438 01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:50,479 Speaker 1: not at Texas. I know a lot of you out 1439 01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:53,320 Speaker 1: there playing high school football right now. And you got 1440 01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:57,240 Speaker 1: camp coming up, and you know what awaits you very 1441 01:15:57,360 --> 01:15:59,880 Speaker 1: very soon, and a lot of you are going to 1442 01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:02,200 Speaker 1: fall into the trap of thinking you need to look 1443 01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:05,080 Speaker 1: good when you go to camp. And so you go. 1444 01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:08,320 Speaker 1: You're hitting buys, you're hitting tries, and you're hitting abs, 1445 01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:11,519 Speaker 1: and all you're gonna hit is the dirt. That's what 1446 01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:15,479 Speaker 1: you're gonna hit. Because like Endomakan Sue, for example, is 1447 01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:17,800 Speaker 1: one of the most dominant football players I've ever seen. 1448 01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:23,080 Speaker 1: Could not count a single abdominal muscle on him. I 1449 01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:25,640 Speaker 1: don't know how much he could curl. I don't know 1450 01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:28,120 Speaker 1: how much he could try press. I just know that 1451 01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:32,479 Speaker 1: it was like an automobile wearing a Nebraska jersey lined 1452 01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:35,879 Speaker 1: up over a center or over an offensive guard. Pure violence. 1453 01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:39,719 Speaker 1: Not many popcorn muscle workouts for endomakan Soux. Now, granted, 1454 01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:42,160 Speaker 1: this is a quarterback room we're talking about, uh, but 1455 01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:46,120 Speaker 1: still no. Just say no to popcorn muscle workouts. Kids. Plus, 1456 01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:48,519 Speaker 1: if you're doing the other muscle groups the right way, 1457 01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:52,280 Speaker 1: your biceps get developed. Anyway, it's one of the big 1458 01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:56,720 Speaker 1: myths out there. You gotta constantly work biceps to develop biceps. No, no, no, 1459 01:16:57,280 --> 01:16:58,880 Speaker 1: that has nothing to do with the Big twelve, though. 1460 01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:02,840 Speaker 1: You know what does Brett? You or Mark conference commissioner. 1461 01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:07,920 Speaker 1: I don't want to mention any names, but sometimes I've 1462 01:17:07,960 --> 01:17:10,240 Speaker 1: been listening to some of these conference commissioners over the 1463 01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:12,200 Speaker 1: past few years, and it seems like they're a step 1464 01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:15,400 Speaker 1: behind Brett. Your Mark's different. Brett, Your Mark sounds like 1465 01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:18,680 Speaker 1: he's a step ahead of the game. Doesn't sound like 1466 01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:22,240 Speaker 1: very many things have taken him by surprise. Conversely, it 1467 01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:24,920 Speaker 1: does sound like some of his decisions have taken his 1468 01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:28,200 Speaker 1: peers and the general college football public by surprise lately. 1469 01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:30,960 Speaker 1: That's a good thing. That doesn't mean the Big twelve's 1470 01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:33,040 Speaker 1: about to pull alongside the SEC and the Big Ten 1471 01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:36,320 Speaker 1: at the next stoplight, but it does mean that at 1472 01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:38,960 Speaker 1: least they're in a position where they're not constantly on 1473 01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:41,800 Speaker 1: the defensive. No one's talking about people rating the Big 1474 01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:44,400 Speaker 1: twelve right now. No one's talking about the shaky Big 1475 01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:47,120 Speaker 1: twelve media rights deal because no one is rating them 1476 01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:50,200 Speaker 1: and they do have a secure media rights deal. You 1477 01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:52,439 Speaker 1: can't say the same for every other conference, can you. 1478 01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:54,800 Speaker 1: So at the very least you know Texas and know 1479 01:17:54,920 --> 01:17:57,080 Speaker 1: you were on their way out. No one out there 1480 01:17:57,080 --> 01:18:02,760 Speaker 1: seems to be particularly terrified at that perspective. And also, yes, 1481 01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:05,000 Speaker 1: pretty good coaches walking in the door too. I'm very 1482 01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:08,280 Speaker 1: excited to see what Gus Malson does in time or 1483 01:18:08,360 --> 01:18:11,960 Speaker 1: immediately whatever. Gus Maleson, man, that's its own story, that 1484 01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:14,639 Speaker 1: is its own thirty for thirty. I always tell the story. 1485 01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:16,160 Speaker 1: I guess I can wrap it up tonight with it 1486 01:18:17,240 --> 01:18:22,240 Speaker 1: one day down the road. If you are currently eighteen 1487 01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:26,280 Speaker 1: years old, let's just go to thirty six. So let's 1488 01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:29,479 Speaker 1: double your life spam. And by thirty six, let's say 1489 01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:32,120 Speaker 1: you're married, and you've got a couple of kids and 1490 01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:34,479 Speaker 1: a third on the way, and the oldest is a boy, 1491 01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:38,640 Speaker 1: and you're explaining to him about this guy gus Malson 1492 01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:42,040 Speaker 1: that maybe he's still there, maybe he's not, But this 1493 01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:45,519 Speaker 1: guy gus Malson is at Auburn, which at the time 1494 01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:48,519 Speaker 1: was the most pressure cooker job imaginable, and maybe it 1495 01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:53,000 Speaker 1: still is. And Malzon goes to LSU and they lose, 1496 01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:54,880 Speaker 1: and everyone's calling for his job. And then in the 1497 01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:58,280 Speaker 1: same year he goes and beats Georgia when they're number one. 1498 01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:01,040 Speaker 1: Then he beats Alabama when they're number one. Then his agent, 1499 01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:03,320 Speaker 1: his name was Jimmy Sexton. Pay attention. This is where 1500 01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:05,280 Speaker 1: it gets really good. They push Auburn up against a 1501 01:19:05,320 --> 01:19:07,599 Speaker 1: wall the week of the SEC Championship game, no less, 1502 01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:09,519 Speaker 1: and they say we want a new deal, and Auburn 1503 01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:12,120 Speaker 1: gives them a new deal, massive buyout. A couple of 1504 01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:17,960 Speaker 1: years later, same university fires him. Gus Malson both pockets full, 1505 01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:21,280 Speaker 1: decides he wants to get back into coaching, and he 1506 01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:24,880 Speaker 1: goes to UCF. So gus Malson is being paid tens 1507 01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:27,479 Speaker 1: of millions of dollars by Auburn not to coach. He 1508 01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:31,519 Speaker 1: moves to Florida, and about five minutes later, someone knocks 1509 01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:34,639 Speaker 1: on the door. Hey you having fun, Gus, Yeah, man, 1510 01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:36,400 Speaker 1: I love it down here. Palm trees all over the place. 1511 01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:39,040 Speaker 1: We didn't have those in Lee County, Alabama. What if 1512 01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:42,080 Speaker 1: I told you this program's going to the Power five 1513 01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:46,280 Speaker 1: a couple of years from now. Oh really, So let's rewind. 1514 01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:48,960 Speaker 1: He was the head coach at Auburn, then they paid 1515 01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:51,599 Speaker 1: him a ton of money not to be there. Then 1516 01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:55,120 Speaker 1: he went to a really good fit down in Central Florida. 1517 01:19:55,479 --> 01:19:58,479 Speaker 1: Then they rose in the ranks to Power five status, 1518 01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:03,280 Speaker 1: and Gus Mauson ended up being like Warren Buffett of 1519 01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:07,880 Speaker 1: college football coaches, and also got right back in the mix, 1520 01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:09,679 Speaker 1: cause he's going to be right back in the mix. 1521 01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:12,639 Speaker 1: I always wondered what Central Florida would do if put 1522 01:20:12,680 --> 01:20:15,120 Speaker 1: on the premiere stage, the Power five stage, whatever you 1523 01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:17,439 Speaker 1: want to call that, in the future. I wondered the 1524 01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:20,480 Speaker 1: same thing about Houston. Now, Houston won't do it immediately, 1525 01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:23,680 Speaker 1: but I'm talking about over the next ten years. Houston's 1526 01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:26,120 Speaker 1: been ready to do this. Central Florida has been ready, 1527 01:20:26,120 --> 01:20:29,880 Speaker 1: Cincinnati has been ready. They've been ready, and so now 1528 01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:31,880 Speaker 1: they're going to get to compete against the big boys. 1529 01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:35,520 Speaker 1: More specifically, they're going to get to play a schedule 1530 01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:38,400 Speaker 1: to where if they have one or zero losses, no 1531 01:20:38,439 --> 01:20:41,160 Speaker 1: one will be able to question their strength of schedule anymore. 1532 01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:44,240 Speaker 1: They'll be in that playoff picture. So I'm looking forward 1533 01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:46,360 Speaker 1: to it. We had a loaded show tonight. I appreciate 1534 01:20:46,360 --> 01:20:48,479 Speaker 1: you guys watching again. On your way out, make sure 1535 01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:50,439 Speaker 1: you click the thumb up button subscribe to the channel. 1536 01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:54,519 Speaker 1: We will be back here same time Sunday night, and 1537 01:20:54,600 --> 01:20:57,679 Speaker 1: then we got a full week three shows next week. 1538 01:20:57,720 --> 01:20:58,880 Speaker 1: By the way, I don't know if I told you 1539 01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:02,880 Speaker 1: that Sunday night night Thursday night because SEC Media Days 1540 01:21:02,920 --> 01:21:04,200 Speaker 1: is in town, so we got a lot to talk about. 1541 01:21:04,240 --> 01:21:06,600 Speaker 1: We'll have multiple coaches on the show. Should be a 1542 01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:09,800 Speaker 1: fun and unpredictable time for all, so producer Jesse for 1543 01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:12,479 Speaker 1: director Colin for Bradley the associate, I'm Josh Pate. Take care, 1544 01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:15,679 Speaker 1: have a great start to your weekend. Thank god, Bliss