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Speaker 1: back after a long Easter weekend. How was everybody's Easter weekend? Lara?

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Speaker 1: can work out where if you add someone at either

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00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,520
Speaker 1: of those positions, your offense is going to be okay.

423
00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:45,160
Speaker 1: And you know, you talk to all these different draft pundits,

424
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:49,240
Speaker 1: draft insiders, draft analysts. The tight end draft class is

425
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,400
Speaker 1: very deep, so the Colts can get some good value there. Heck,

426
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,120
Speaker 1: maybe on Day three, rounds five, six, or seven, take

427
00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,679
Speaker 1: a flyer on a guy when you're drafting based on

428
00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,920
Speaker 1: traits and upside and things like that. Action on that, Yep,

429
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,399
Speaker 1: I think you get an undrafted rookie tight end. I

430
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,520
Speaker 1: think you've signed someone as an undrafted rookie at that

431
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 1: position based on how it's shaking out. You do have

432
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 1: some investment there. Obviously, you've got a fourth round pick

433
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,639
Speaker 1: and grandson a third round pick in Jalani Woods, And

434
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 1: these are all guys that you're you're invested in, and uh,

435
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,399
Speaker 1: you know can take the next step if you will.

436
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:25,119
Speaker 1: But you know, I guess I agree with both of you. Guys. Mean,

437
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,200
Speaker 1: whether it's a tight end or a receiver, the Colts

438
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,480
Speaker 1: just need, I've been saying it all off season more

439
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,640
Speaker 1: top in talent in their passing game. The Colts only

440
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:37,399
Speaker 1: have five one hundred yard receiving games by a player

441
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,680
Speaker 1: on offense in the last two seasons, four by Pittman,

442
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,560
Speaker 1: one by Jonathan Taylor in twenty twenty one, and Colts

443
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:48,359
Speaker 1: receivers last season averaged only nine point seven yards per catch.

444
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 1: That was the lowest in club history. So need more

445
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,439
Speaker 1: explosiveness in the passing game, whether that comes from receiver

446
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 1: or a tight end. Devil's advocate is is that really

447
00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:02,359
Speaker 1: the receiver's fault. They bore some responsibility, but the entire

448
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 1: offense was broken. That was the scheme. Scheme should help

449
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 1: quarterbacks to help and then the offensive line rebounding obviously

450
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,160
Speaker 1: is going to play a role in that as well. Yeah,

451
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,399
Speaker 1: I think Shane Steikin's offense should fix a lot of that,

452
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:17,719
Speaker 1: and hope, hopefully the offensive line under Tony Sperrano Junior

453
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 1: takes the next step and is able to simplify some

454
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,679
Speaker 1: things and just cut down on the free blitzers and

455
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 1: do a better job of picking up stunts and games

456
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 1: and twists that the line of scrimmage with which they

457
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,439
Speaker 1: had so much trouble in really from the start of

458
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,359
Speaker 1: last season. That's a good segue. Let's talk about offensive line.

459
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 1: Where are you guys at room temperature wise or I

460
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 1: guess draft thermometer wise. On the offensive line, JJL start

461
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 1: with you on that one. I think I'm at room

462
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 1: temperature again, and I hate to keep doing room temper,

463
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 1: room temper, room temp. But I think, like you mentioned, Matey,

464
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 1: if you can just cut down on the protection issues,

465
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,880
Speaker 1: which is what the issue was the first eight nine

466
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,479
Speaker 1: weeks of last season, where like you mentioned, there are

467
00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,160
Speaker 1: guys coming free up the middle, it didn't matter where

468
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:01,879
Speaker 1: they're coming from. That you had so many free runners

469
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 1: who are unexpected free runners. You cut down on those

470
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:08,439
Speaker 1: with good coaching, and this offensive line can still block.

471
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 1: Braden Smith can still block, Quin Nelson, can still block.

472
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 1: Ryan Kelly can still block. I like Bernard Ryman. I

473
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 1: think he's I think he is upside to be a

474
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 1: solid NFL left tackle at worst, And you know, maybe

475
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,639
Speaker 1: you need to add some competition at right guard. You

476
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 1: know we have Will Fry's battle that out with someone.

477
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 1: But I'm not necessarily on a you need to draft

478
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 1: an offensive lineman on day two type of train. Again,

479
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,160
Speaker 1: if the right guy is there, go ahead and take him.

480
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,439
Speaker 1: But I don't think you need to reach to go

481
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,640
Speaker 1: get an offensive Lineman to fill a need on day two,

482
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 1: necessarily JJ's riot at like seventy degrees. Whether it's like

483
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 1: a warm sixty degree day outside, and JJ doesn't even

484
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 1: have his windows are open, windows are open and just lounging.

485
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 1: You don't have couch. It's great, nice little breeze going through.

486
00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 1: Nor the heat is on. It's just a beautiful day outside,

487
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,399
Speaker 1: all right, saving some money. Were you at, what's the

488
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 1: worst temperature to drink a beer matte? That would be

489
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 1: room temperture, stay warm, would be warm would be the worst.

490
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 1: That's where I am on this oil is a wild beef.

491
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 1: It's almost track season. That's exactly right. Room temperature. I

492
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 1: can have a beer room temperature, especially if you go

493
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,880
Speaker 1: to Europe there room temp over there, but a warm beer, no,

494
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,920
Speaker 1: that disqualification on that beverage. That is where I am

495
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 1: on this offensive line primarily because you just need depth.

496
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 1: You know, you look at your starters, and you look

497
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 1: at what Tony Sprauno can do with the group that

498
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 1: he is inheriting. I do still think you need to

499
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 1: reinforce that group because if you have injuries at any

500
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 1: of those starting positions, things are very thin. And I

501
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 1: do still look at guys like Will Fries and Bernard

502
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 1: Ryman have a lot to prove this season. You want

503
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 1: competition going into training camp. You want to give yourself options,

504
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 1: and you really want to reinforce and have some guys

505
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 1: that you can rotate through in various situations. If you

506
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 1: get into situations that we've seen the last few years

507
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 1: where this offensive line has played pretty banged up for

508
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 1: the majority of the last two years at minimum, So

509
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: you know, that's something that's it for me right there.

510
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 1: That's that's the point. That's a great point. That's that's

511
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 1: why I have this a little bit hotter. I've got

512
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 1: it at the sizzle level because as things currently stand

513
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 1: right now and now this is going to change because

514
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 1: it has to change. But as of right now, the

515
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 1: Colts six backups behind their projected starting five offensive linemen

516
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 1: right now have combined for sixty eight appearances and eight starts.

517
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 1: Danny Pinter has accounted for forty six of those games

518
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 1: and seven of the starts. So you look at Wesley French,

519
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 1: Jordan Murray, Carter, O'Donnell, those guys have yet to appear

520
00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 1: in a regular season game in the NFL. So line

521
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 1: depth to your point la is tested every year. I mean,

522
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 1: you go back to twenty nineteen, that was the anomaly

523
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 1: for the Colts. That year, the Colts had the same

524
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 1: five guys start every game. Since that season, the Colts

525
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 1: have used twenty three different starting combinations in fifty games

526
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 1: a bunch last season. So right now, you feel good

527
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 1: about where you're at with three guys in the starting

528
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 1: lineup with Kelly Nelson Braden Smith. Yes, they need to rebound.

529
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 1: They need to have better years than they did last year.

530
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 1: That's a given. But what are you gonna do with

531
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,959
Speaker 1: Bernard Ryman? Do you write him in at Penn at

532
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,880
Speaker 1: left tackle right now? I don't think right same thing

533
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 1: with Will Fries at right guard. So the Colts. To

534
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 1: my point that the Colts are going to add some

535
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 1: more depth along the offensive line, they have to, but

536
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,719
Speaker 1: it's just a question right now, JJF, where does it

537
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: come from? So to me that that's a big priority

538
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 1: is pushing some of these guys and solidifying some of

539
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: these holes you have position wise at left tackle and

540
00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: right guard going into training camp. Yeah, I would agree

541
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 1: with that, just because but I also think I don't

542
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 1: know if you address that in the draft necessarily the

543
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 1: veteran free agent market does kind of pick up a

544
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,439
Speaker 1: little bit after the draft. You know, we saw the

545
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 1: Cold signed Eric Fisher two years ago. After the draft,

546
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 1: you could still get a veteran reserve type of guy

547
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: who can maybe come in and compete with Bernard Rhyman

548
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 1: or compete with Will Fries that route. So I think

549
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: that's also why I'm a little bit lower. But I agree,

550
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 1: if you guys, depth on that line is a necessity,

551
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 1: and maybe bringing in, you know, competition for one or

552
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 1: two guys is important too. All right, we talked about

553
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 1: tight in Lara, start with you first on cornerback. Where

554
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: are you on the draft thermometer on corner in the secondary? Man, mate,

555
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 1: I'm kind of thinking back to my childhood and if

556
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: it was it was a big like Friday night, you know,

557
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: in the overtons are headed out. You know, we like

558
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 1: to go to a buffet from time to time. Yeah, good,

559
00:28:55,080 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 1: real good salad bar, the sizzler were you know they

560
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: can't jump reference. Nicely done, thank you, thank you. That

561
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: is where I am on cornerback because when you're looking

562
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 1: at the depth in that position again, looking at depth,

563
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: thinking about the loss of Stefan Gilmour and how significant

564
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 1: he was for you last season. Kenny Moore is an

565
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 1: approve it type of year. Going into twenty twenty three,

566
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: you have Isaiah Rodgers who was playing inconsistently, not because

567
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: his play was inconsistent, but in terms of when and

568
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 1: where he was starting and how much he was utilized.

569
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 1: It was kind of an up and down type of

570
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: situation with how much he was getting into games. Then

571
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 1: Dallas Flowers showed some bright spots, but you're still talking

572
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: about a guy who's coming off of a rookie year.

573
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: I think that that area for me might have more

574
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 1: questions than any other position group going into this offseason period.

575
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 1: So I think, to me, that's right up there. Wide

576
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: receiver and corner both sizzling situation right now, here's why

577
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: cornerback for me. Okay, I'm gonna do what Lara did.

578
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 1: So yesterday we're having a discussion. We had we had

579
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 1: a little podcast meeting, and before it we were chatting

580
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 1: and Bill Brooks was talking about what he made for

581
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 1: Easter dinner and he said he had lobster, and I

582
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 1: was talking about, oh, you know, one time my mother

583
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: in law bought some lobster at like fresh market and

584
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 1: it was on super sale and I grilled it and

585
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 1: I was like, that wasn't really the best way to

586
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 1: grill lobster. And Bill goes, no, there's one way to

587
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: make lobster. Bill's a you know, New England area native,

588
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 1: and he said, you gotta boiling. Drop him in. Here's

589
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 1: here's why cornerback is boiling. And this, by the way,

590
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: would be boiling even if Stefan Gilmour was still on

591
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 1: the roster. Oh okay, the Colts are going to have.

592
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,719
Speaker 1: The Colts have two impending free agents after this season

593
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 1: at cornerback, kennymore the second and Isaiah Rodgers Senior. That

594
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 1: will leave them and Stefan Gilmour would have been an

595
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: impending free agent also, and he's still been on the roster.

596
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: Right that's your starting lineup. That leaves your most experienced

597
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: cornerback on the roster right now in twenty twenty four

598
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 1: is Dallas Flowers. I think, yeah, if I'm correct, Yeah,

599
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: So you need to address cornerback in some way, shape

600
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 1: or form, hopefully in the NFL draft with young talent,

601
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: and ideally you would resign Isaiah Rodgers Senior and Kenny

602
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 1: Moore the second and keep them here long term if

603
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 1: they earn those contracts. But you have to you got

604
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: to have some young talent in the pipeline there. The

605
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: one thing I will say on this is you don't

606
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: need you can find functional cornerback talent across the NFL draft.

607
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,239
Speaker 1: You can really only find elite cornerback talent in like

608
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: the top ten. That's usually where you see. You know,

609
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: your sauce gardeners, your patricks or tans come from. Well,

610
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: you know, he hasn't worked out, that's right, that's where

611
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: he was drafted. Um. I think if you're the Colts,

612
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: adding a young cornerback or two at any point during

613
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: this NFL Draft is going to be very important because

614
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: you you're gonna need some guys in the pipeline for

615
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: next year in two thousand and twenty four. So when

616
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: you get to the two thousand and twenty four draft,

617
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: it is not a red line flashing need that you

618
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 1: might need to go reach to fill. That's that's why

619
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: I think you got to go get these guys, not

620
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: necessarily for two thousand and twenty three, but for two

621
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 1: thousand and twenty four and beyond. I like it. JJ

622
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: finally turned up the heat. Finally I stopped with my lukewarm.

623
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: Can I also throw out two sneaky needs? Sure? Because

624
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 1: as I was looking at this, I was like, Okay,

625
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 1: who are the Colts free agents going to be next year?

626
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: You have to you have to designate them with a

627
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: temper sure though. Okay, so temperature, all right, Yeah, that's good.

628
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put warm for defensive tackle. And you might

629
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: be saying, oh, wait, Buck and Grover here. Grover Stewart

630
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: is going to be a free agent after this year,

631
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,959
Speaker 1: and DeForest Buckner his contract is coming up at some

632
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: point here soon. The Colts ideally can keep both of

633
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: them and keep them here long term, but you need

634
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Speaker 1: rotational guys there, and they play a position where against

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Speaker 1: depth and and as as Buck and Grove, the wear

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Speaker 1: and tear, I mean, the work that Buck puts into

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Speaker 1: keep his body and peak physical performance is like unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: DeForest Buckner can play until forty as far as I'm concerned,

639
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Speaker 1: and probably play at a high level. Same goes for

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Speaker 1: Grover Stewart. But ultimately you don't want Buck playing seventy

641
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Speaker 1: eight to eighty percent of the snaps into his thirties.

642
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Speaker 1: You probably want to be a little more measured with that.

643
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: So getting a young defensive tackle in again, you don't

644
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Speaker 1: need to do it in the first, second, third round,

645
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Speaker 1: but maybe on Day three like the Colts did last

646
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Speaker 1: year with Deeric Johnson. Just bring guys into the pipeline

647
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: at that position and then run back. So Jonathan Taylor

648
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: and Zach Moss are set to be free agents after

649
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Speaker 1: this season. I think we all expect something to happen

650
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Speaker 1: with Jonathan Taylor and him to be here long term.

651
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: But Zach Moss, maybe he earns that contract. But all

652
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 1: of a sudden, if you look at it, you know

653
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Speaker 1: you would have Jonathan Taylor Dion Jackson on this team.

654
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 1: Potentially in twenty twenty four, you might need another guy

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Speaker 1: in there. Maybe you look for a pass catching back

656
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Speaker 1: to sort of replace Nahim Hines in that role. That

657
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,879
Speaker 1: wouldn't surprise me if the Colts looked at it again,

658
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 1: you're looking at it with who is going to be

659
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 1: a free agent after this year? Why may we not

660
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 1: be able to keep on this roster and say maybe

661
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,720
Speaker 1: we do need to go get a Day three running

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Speaker 1: back to kind of fill that role again thinking forward,

663
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Speaker 1: because I think a lot of mistakes teams make in

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Speaker 1: the draft are thinking that the only needs are your

665
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Speaker 1: needs right next season. Right, you can look at the

666
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Speaker 1: draft as your needs today are not going to be

667
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Speaker 1: your needs tomorrow, but we can also address our needs

668
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: tomorrow through the draft. Right, good stuff, good look at

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Speaker 1: the draft on some of the needs for the Colts

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Speaker 1: outside of the quarterback position. Speaking of the draft, the

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Speaker 1: Colts are hosting their official draft party. It's presented by

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Speaker 1: are free, They're open to fans of all ages. Activities

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Speaker 1: will include appearances by Colts legends Gary Brackett, Marlon Jackson,

676
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Speaker 1: Jack Doyle and others, and also Colts cheerleaders. You're gonna

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Speaker 1: have giveaways another fan friendly and family friendly opportunities. For

678
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Speaker 1: all the details on where those players are going to be,

679
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Speaker 1: head to Colts dot com slash draft. And the Wings

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Speaker 1: are always sizzling, and they are sizzling and they are

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Speaker 1: a sizzling need for some wings right now. Hi, I'm

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Speaker 1: with you. It's been a while since I've been to

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Wild Wings. That sounds good. On draft night, take

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Speaker 1: it in and hang out with Colts fans and see

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Speaker 1: what they do at number four. Then come back the

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Speaker 1: next night and see what they're doing. Rounds two, rounds three,

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Speaker 1: and they got what JJ three picks and rounds five? Yeah? Three,

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Speaker 1: round five picks. Yeah. I got one from Buffalo for

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00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: nineteen Hines, got another from Dallas to find Gilmour and

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Speaker 1: then the POD's native pick. There you go. All right,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna close out. Let's look ahead at some off

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Speaker 1: season projections for second year players. Lara, let's talk about

694
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Speaker 1: the sophomores, as Chuck Crab used to say down on

695
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Speaker 1: the PA Mike at Indiana University. So let's talk about

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Speaker 1: some sophomore seasons for the twenty twenty two rookie class.

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Speaker 1: We talked a little bit about Bernard Ryman, talked a

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Speaker 1: little bit about Alec Pierce in the wide receiver conversation.

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Speaker 1: But Lara, let's let's hone in on Pierce real quick.

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Speaker 1: Is he ready? The question I have for him? Is

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Speaker 1: he ready to now be the Colt's biggest threat downfield

702
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: in the vertical passing game? And how badly. Do the

703
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 1: Colts need someone, multiple people to emerge in the vertical

704
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: threat game in twenty twenty three under Shane Steken badly

705
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Speaker 1: need multiple factors in that vertical passing game in big

706
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Speaker 1: downfield type of threats. And I do think that you

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Speaker 1: look to Alec Piers to be the most immediate in

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Speaker 1: terms of utilization from that aspect, based on what he

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00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: gave you in situations last year. And I mean I

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00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: have seen Alec Pierce a whole lot this offseason. He's

711
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 1: put in a ton of work, been around, and you

712
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 1: have an opportunity now where he's getting the earliest work

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00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 1: with Gardner Minshew plus Sam Ellinger in the building. So

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Speaker 1: I think that in terms of you know, we always hear.

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Speaker 1: This is something I remember last year Reggie Wayne talked

716
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Speaker 1: so much about how difficult that rookie season is for

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Speaker 1: wide receivers. So for Alec to have had the degree

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Speaker 1: of impact that he had, especially through the first half

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Speaker 1: to three quarters of this season, I think it's really impressive.

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Speaker 1: So that's indicative that when he now has the entirety

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Speaker 1: of the offseason here and he's able to have some

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Speaker 1: continuity and just being able to build upon that. I

723
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: do think you're looking to him to be that primary

724
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Speaker 1: kind of you know, big play, chunk play type of guy.

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00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: I think he already is. You look at his numbers

726
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: last year, he caught seventeen. He caught seven of seventeen

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Speaker 1: go balls that were thrown his way for two hundred

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Speaker 1: and nine yards and two touchdowns. Twenty one percent of

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Speaker 1: his targets last year were goballs, so he was a

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Speaker 1: goball specialist. And that's something we knew he could do

731
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Speaker 1: at Cincinnati and it translated to the NFL. What I

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Speaker 1: want to see out of Alec is expanding his route

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Speaker 1: tree so he can catch more of those intermediate over

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Speaker 1: the middle, you know, inside the numbers routes, because that

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00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: then changes out teams will cover him, how corners can

736
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Speaker 1: cover him, and then that could hopefully lead to more

737
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Speaker 1: of those goalballs. But more than anything, having a passing

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Speaker 1: offense that just isn't broken will lead to Alec Pierce

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00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: getting more of those opportunities on goballs. Yeah, for Alec

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Speaker 1: to put up the numbers he did as a rookie

741
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Speaker 1: in that offense, the way that things are going last

742
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 1: year pretty impressive in my book. They need more of

743
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: that from Pierce. They just need more of that across

744
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,399
Speaker 1: the board because the Colts only had they only had

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Speaker 1: forty one catches last season that went over twenty and

746
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Speaker 1: they only had four that went over forty. And we

747
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 1: know the team I mean in the NFL, the team

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Speaker 1: that wins the turnover battle and has more chunk plays

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Speaker 1: is probably gonna be your likely winner in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: So I mean last season, Matt Ryan average six point

751
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: six yards per attempt nine point nine yards per completion,

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00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: the Colts ranked twenty seventh, and completions over twenty five

753
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Speaker 1: yards since the start of the twenty twenty one season

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Speaker 1: with only forty nine. So I think this kind of

755
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 1: goes back to what we were talking about earlier. I

756
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 1: think the scheme chain should give you more pop the

757
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 1: bounce back from the offensive line. Gardner Minshew is a

758
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 1: good deep ball thrower. You know, all all of the

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00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 1: rookie quarterbacks, potentially the Colts could draft Richardson, Stroud, Levis

760
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: and Young. These are all guys that can throw the

761
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 1: deep ball, that can make all the throws. So I

762
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Speaker 1: think Pierce is your biggest weapon in the deep a game,

763
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Speaker 1: but you just need more of him and everybody else

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Speaker 1: to come and join him in that regard. We talked

765
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 1: about Jelani Woods a little bit earlier his bounce back

766
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Speaker 1: in year number two. Let's go on defense to close

767
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Speaker 1: out JJ. What about Nick Cross? What is his role

768
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Speaker 1: for next season? I mean, should we be thinking about

769
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Speaker 1: him in the starting lineup given the fact that Rodney

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Speaker 1: McLeod is still a free agent and still unsigned by

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00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 1: the Colts in any other team for that matter. Right now?

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Speaker 1: I mean, where where is Nick Cross in his sophomore campaign?

773
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Speaker 1: This is a fascinating question, mate. I love it because

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Speaker 1: we I think right now you probably are penciling in

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Speaker 1: Nick Cross as you're starting strong safety in this defense

776
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: where above Rodney Thomas. No, I think I think you're

777
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,879
Speaker 1: right now. Rodney Thomas and Julian Blackman have been kind

778
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Speaker 1: of battling, and they were battling last season at that

779
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Speaker 1: free safety spot. The way that Gus plays the safeties

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Speaker 1: a lot. In the cover three, you have that one

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Speaker 1: kind of deep center fielder, which last year was Rodney

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Speaker 1: Thomas and Julian Blackman, and that the strong safety who

783
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Speaker 1: can play deep, who can also play close to the line.

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00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 1: That was always Rodney McLoud and Nick Cross was in

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00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: that role before they made the switch to Rodney McLeod

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Speaker 1: in Week two. I think you're you're hoping that Nick

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Speaker 1: Cross can take that role. And Rodney, like you said,

788
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Speaker 1: Ronnie McLoud still is a free agent, which means there

789
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Speaker 1: still is an opportunity if you decide after the draft day,

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00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: you know, maybe we want to bring him back. But

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00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 1: I think you ideally would have Nick Cross in there

792
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:32,720
Speaker 1: because you did trade what I believe is the sixty

793
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Speaker 1: seventh overall pick in this year's draft to go get

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Speaker 1: Nick Cross, which last year you didn't anticipate of being

795
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Speaker 1: that high of a pick, but you did give up

796
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 1: significant draft capital now to go get Nick Cross. And

797
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: the cults were so high in him, they thought he

798
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 1: had a second round grade. But in talking to some

799
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Speaker 1: people about Nick Cross, a lot of what I heard

800
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Speaker 1: was that it was more about Rodney McLeod just playing

801
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 1: at a really high level than it was about Nick

802
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: Cross being like a bust and they can trust him

803
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: with his experience, right, And that's that's it turned out.

804
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 1: That's what that defense needed, was that ten years of experience.

805
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 1: And then Ronnie McLeod turned in an awesome season. He

806
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: was great last year and you couldn't get him off

807
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 1: the field, so there wasn't really an opportunity for Nick

808
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: Cross to get back into the starting lineup. Um. Nick,

809
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,240
Speaker 1: he actually did make a pretty decent impact on special teams,

810
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: which I think shows you know, he's got some coachability

811
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 1: to him. He obviously his talent, and hopefully he can

812
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:31,399
Speaker 1: take take the lead on that strong safety role um

813
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 1: and then you know you can have Rodney Thomas and

814
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 1: Julian Blackman battling there. But Ronnie Thomas also probably could

815
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 1: drop down to that strong safety Nick Nick Cross, so

816
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: he's the perfect body for it. At six zero two twelve.

817
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: He can be that kind of thumper who also can play,

818
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,280
Speaker 1: you know, range on the back end. Rodney Thomas played

819
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 1: so many different positions in college that was that was yet, linebacker, corner, safety,

820
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,800
Speaker 1: he was everywhere. So I think that there are multiple

821
00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 1: ways that you can play him in this D defense

822
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: because of not only his skill set, but also just

823
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: his knowledge and the physicality. But I am incredibly intrigued

824
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 1: by Nick Cross and what he can do developing in

825
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 1: that Ron Miliss system, working with that group. It's it's

826
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Speaker 1: probably one of the biggest question marks that we that

827
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: we have right now is where does he fit and

828
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Speaker 1: can he in year two thrive and flourish into what

829
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: you anticipated he was capable of doing for you last

830
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 1: season and maybe now it's just you know, one year removed.

831
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Speaker 1: And by the way, this is a big year for

832
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Speaker 1: Julian Blackman. It's a contract year for him. His rookie

833
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: deal is up after this season, so you know, maybe

834
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: he comes in, you know, really motivated and takes command

835
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,399
Speaker 1: of that free safety role and then it's Rodney Thomas

836
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 1: versus Nick Cross. You know, there are a lot of

837
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: things that could still happen in the coming weeks and

838
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: months on that yep. And we're just getting started week

839
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,399
Speaker 1: one of the offseason workout program this week, first of

840
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 1: nine weeks, and we'll have the Key Mini Camp in

841
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: a few weeks. The Veteran Mini Camp in June, Ota

842
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 1: start in late May ten OTAs for the Colts, we'll

843
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 1: hear from Shane Stiking coming up tomorrow Wednesday. As we

844
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Speaker 1: put this out on Tuesday, we had the Draft Thermometer,

845
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 1: we talked about the offseason workout program, We shared some

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Speaker 1: stories on Shane Stiking, we talked about Lara's Jeopardy prominence

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Speaker 1: and how she would just dominate things and some sophomore

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Speaker 1: seasons as well. Closing out, JJ, you got a random

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Speaker 1: thought of the week as we end this podcast on

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Speaker 1: a Tuesday. So, Reggie Wayne tweeted out last night a

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Speaker 1: photo of the new wall in the wide receiver room,

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Speaker 1: and I want to give a shout out to our

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Speaker 1: colleague Chris Albright who mocked these up for the player

854
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Speaker 1: position meeting rooms and for just the meeting rooms around

855
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Speaker 1: the facility. They look awesome. Just go check out Reggie

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Speaker 1: Wayne's twitter. It's five wide receivers around the wall, kind

857
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Speaker 1: of showing everyone who's in that room the greatness that's

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Speaker 1: been at that position in Colt's history. So from left

859
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Speaker 1: to right, you got our friend Bill Brooks, Marvin Harrison,

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Speaker 1: t Y Hilton, Reggie Wayne, and Raymond Barry on the wall. So, matey,

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Speaker 1: if you're doing this for radio play by play voices

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Speaker 1: or just play by play voices in general, Lara, you're

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Speaker 1: doing this for uh, you know, TV reporters, on camera presenters,

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Speaker 1: sideline reporters, whatever you want. You have so many job titles.

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Speaker 1: Who's who's on your wall of like motivating you to

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Speaker 1: be I want to reach that level of greatness. Who's

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Speaker 1: on your wall that Chris Albright is now designing for

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Speaker 1: your office? By the way, God, I feel like this

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Speaker 1: needs way more time for me to contemplate. Like I'm

870
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Speaker 1: kind of thinking about write them down. I'm going on

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Speaker 1: like great story too. We might have to go back

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Speaker 1: and forth because I might list a few and then

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Speaker 1: you might have to jump in so I can get

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Speaker 1: a few more. I'm gonna go with like great sports

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Speaker 1: storytellers kind of is just what So I'm gonna that's

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Speaker 1: gonna be very broad and vague. I get Tom Rinaldi

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Speaker 1: is where I'm going to start, because that guy can

878
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Speaker 1: take a story that will bring you to tears and

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00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,760
Speaker 1: make you care about something that you had zero knowledge

880
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Speaker 1: of prior to when that story was aired on your

881
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Speaker 1: TV screen. He's phenomenal so sports storyteller, He's probably up

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Speaker 1: there pretty high. Let me start to think about some

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Speaker 1: others though. He's kind of like for me though he

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Speaker 1: just got a few names. You go really quickly play

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Speaker 1: by play guys that I really enjoy listening to, that

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Speaker 1: I actually take stuff from and have tried to emulate

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Speaker 1: and incorporate their style into mind, and kind of make

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00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: a melting pot of kind of who I am. First

889
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 1: one is Kevin Harland. I have taken so much of

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Speaker 1: his prep and his delivery and his use of description

891
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,439
Speaker 1: and adjectives. And then other guys that I just enjoy

892
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 1: listening to on television, Verne Lundquist over the years, Brad

893
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 1: Nessler who's now on SEC on CBS doing football and basketball,

894
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 1: Marty Brennaman from the Reds. Have really enjoyed his style,

895
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 1: pretty laid back and then also pretty brash and um,

896
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 1: just a lot of truth telling obviously with Marty which

897
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,720
Speaker 1: gets him into trouble or has gotten him in trouble

898
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 1: at times. Uh Don Fisher obviously. And then Kevin Coogler

899
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Speaker 1: does a really good job on both television and radio

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00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: on a national scene. So those are my guys that

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00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 1: those are my players or my guys that would be

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00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: on my wall. Um, I'm gonna jump in with Chris

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00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: Connolly formerly of ESPN, now on ABC. Jen Latta, who

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Speaker 1: I used to work She's great, who's just fantastic. Also,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw in there. I just recently write an article,

906
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 1: so he's top of mind because of the Masters. I

907
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:57,280
Speaker 1: also worked with him when I in turned to ESPN.

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00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put Scott Van Pelt up there. He's more

909
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,800
Speaker 1: of like an anchor host, but it just in terms

910
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 1: of connecting with an audience, he is phenomenal. And then

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Speaker 1: I got I got one more right here? How many

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Speaker 1: are we going? Five? Or you can go as many

913
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Speaker 1: as you want? God, I mean there, this is I

914
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: feel like I need like a week to compile like

915
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 1: a lot of these stuff. This is really really good stuff.

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Speaker 1: One I'm gonna throw the other person I'm gonna throw

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Speaker 1: into this. He's more of a writer, not so much

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Speaker 1: of an on air person. But Seth Wickersham. Yeah, So

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Speaker 1: Seth Wickersham was actually on my wall. Yeah, yeah, because

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Speaker 1: I'm looking, I'm thinking about the storytellers in a written

921
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: medium and Seth Wickersham's ability to take very challenging subjects

922
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 1: to write about and report on and write about them

923
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 1: and report it's it's incredible. So he'd be on my wall.

924
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:56,240
Speaker 1: Dan Pompeii, the Hall of Fame sports writer from Chicago

925
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 1: who was a beat writer on the Bears Beat Forever

926
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Speaker 1: and Out. The stories he writes in the in the

927
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 1: way he conducts interviews is just it's top of the

928
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 1: top of the line. It's something I always try to emulate.

929
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Speaker 1: I would put my friend but the late John Moon Mullen,

930
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,320
Speaker 1: who I worked with in Chicago on it, just for

931
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: the way that he treated people. It's always an inspiration

932
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 1: to me. And then a guy who we know who

933
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 1: we've had on this podcast, Tie Doun. The way that

934
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Speaker 1: he is able to connect with people that he talks

935
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Speaker 1: to and then the way that he writes about them

936
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Speaker 1: for his sche Golong TD, which I'm a very happy

937
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 1: subscriber to, is really really phenomenal, really excellent. It's something

938
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Speaker 1: you always try to you know, Like he wrote a

939
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 1: story recently on Zaire Franklin and I just remember I

940
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 1: was messaging with z about it and he was just like, yeah, like,

941
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 1: you know, I'm really glad ty got to tell that story.

942
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 1: And I was like, I am too, because the way

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Speaker 1: that the way that Tyler, you know, got Zaire to

944
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 1: open up and then told the story, Yeah, it's really

945
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 1: really impressive. So yeah, that's probably well. And then I

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Speaker 1: throw one one PA guy on there, since that is

947
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Speaker 1: part of my job now, Gene Honda, who has been

948
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Speaker 1: a PA announcer in Chicago for ever since I can remember,

949
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 1: for the White Sox and Blackhawks. But you hear him.

950
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Speaker 1: He does the Final Four every year, he does a

951
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 1: lot of other national events. He's great. I got to

952
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 1: shadow him in a Blackhawks game last month and it

953
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 1: was really really insightful and interesting experience for me. So

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Speaker 1: those are the guys on my wall. What does he

955
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 1: doing during a goal? After a goal? What's his go too?

956
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: So it's interesting. So well, when you score a goal

957
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 1: in hockey, the goal horn goes right, right, right, and

958
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 1: then you don't say anything until the goal is confirmed.

959
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:40,800
Speaker 1: So it's more of a cadence in the game. Yeah. Um.

960
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 1: And then baseball you don't really say anything when there's

961
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 1: a home run. It's just you know, fireworks go off.

962
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 1: Guy trots around the bases, everyone's happy. Um. Football is

963
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 1: interesting in that and that, you know, you still gotta

964
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: say something, gotta say. You say a lot in football, PA,

965
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 1: I've learned. But it's fun. I love doing it. And uh,

966
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 1: you know, getting to hear Gene on the the PA

967
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: called just picking up little things like it. How he

968
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: does it, it's great. All right. We got serious there

969
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 1: on JJ's random thought of the week, which is not

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00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 1: a bad thing. So closing out talking about some idols

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Speaker 1: and top storytellers to close out the show NFL Draft.

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Speaker 1: As we said two weeks from this upcoming Thursday, speaking

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Speaker 1: of stories, we'll have more stories and bios to cover

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Speaker 1: when the Colts make nine draft picks. As of right now,

975
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Speaker 1: they have nine draft picks. For the upcoming drafts, we'll

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Speaker 1: have more content for you all the way up leading

977
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Speaker 1: up to the first pick for the Colts and round

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Speaker 1: number one, fourth overall for Larah Overton. JJ stanghm. It's

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Speaker 1: I'm Matt Taylor. That's it for today. We'll do it

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Speaker 1: again next week. Thanks for listening to the Official Colts podcast.

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Speaker 1: Rock to You, buy win Bets. We'll talk to you

982
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Speaker 1: next week, ever closer to the twenty twenty three NFL

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Speaker 1: Draft