1 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:06,439 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Bryce Harper and welcome to the Billy Show. 2 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 2: Tomorrow. 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 3: Junior, Jim Salisbury, Todd z Olecki. 4 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 4: It's the Philly Show. It's July thirty, first, twenty twenty five. 5 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 4: But we are recording this on Wednesday night because the 6 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 4: Phillies made a trade and it's been a crazy day 7 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 4: and I'm flying back to Philly five am. 8 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 3: Flight guys back to Philly tomorrow. 9 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 2: It's been a long day. It's been a long day. 10 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 5: Your flight, you know you've missed your flight because of 11 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 5: the rain delay. 12 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 4: Yes, it was a rain three and a half hour 13 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 4: rain delay, so I was on an eight to forty 14 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,160 Speaker 4: five flight. I not have to bore everybody with the details, 15 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 4: but so I had to get get rid of that, 16 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 4: get on a new flight, find a hotel. There's no 17 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 4: hotels in town because it's Lolla plooza. There's a soccer game. 18 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 4: It's crazy. The Phillies were kind of scrambling too, because 19 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 4: if they had not been able to play on Wednesday, 20 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 4: and it's a big family trip, so they weren't even 21 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 4: sure where they'd be able to get, you know, rooms 22 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 4: and hotels and things like that. So but in all 23 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 4: of it, they made a big trade. They got Joan 24 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 4: Duran from the Minnesota Twins. I like it, big deal. 25 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 3: What do you like it? 26 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 2: What do you like? 27 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 4: You know what, Let's start like this. Let's do the 28 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 4: Parks First pitch. Park's first pitch is brought to us 29 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 4: by our friends at Parks Casino, Pennsylvania's number one casinos. So, Jim, 30 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 4: what do you like about Joan Duran? 31 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 5: Big power arm, get a little bit of postseasons experience 32 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 5: with the Twins, but dominant guy. He's had some good seasons. 33 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 5: This is not his best season, but he's still young. 34 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 5: I still think there's a lot there. Keeps the ball 35 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 5: on the ground, doesn't allow home run, get some strikeouts. 36 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 5: Just you know, they their big need was a back ender, 37 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 5: and they got one of the best guys that was available, 38 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 5: one of the best guys out there. Paid a steep 39 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 5: price and able and the catcher at Wardo TAYI but 40 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 5: I think you had to do it. You desperately needed 41 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,679 Speaker 5: to fill out that bullpen. So you know, now you 42 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 5: go Kirkering Robertson, You'll have Alvarado for a few weeks. Yeah, 43 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 5: you'll have Duran and you know Strom, I just think 44 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 5: one of the things I think gets overlooked is the 45 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 5: fact the last two Octobers we pointed a lot of 46 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 5: fingers at the offense. You know, they go cold in 47 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 5: Game six and seven against Arizona, and then they don't 48 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 5: really hit against the Mets. But in both of those series, 49 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 5: the bullpen was almost just as big of a problem, 50 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 5: if not just as big of a problem. You know, 51 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,519 Speaker 5: the Arizona game, the Arizona series, the New York series, 52 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 5: big problems with the bullpen helped, you know, lead to 53 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 5: early October exits. I just think they really strengthened their 54 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:16,239 Speaker 5: bullpen with this move. It's the move that everybody wanted Dave, 55 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,679 Speaker 5: the type of move everybody wanted Dave Dombroski to make, 56 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 5: a move designed to put your team in position to 57 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 5: win the World Series. That's why I like it. 58 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 2: I also like it. I love it in fact, they 59 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 2: went for it with this move. I mean, when you're moving. 60 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,839 Speaker 6: A guy like Abel and a kid like t Tay, 61 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 6: you're moving a lot of talent and Tay it's far away, 62 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 6: and you know, that's one of the reasons why you 63 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 6: can sort of move a guy like that. You just 64 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 6: don't know how you're going to progress. He may end 65 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 6: up becoming an All star catcher. Who knows Abe's going 66 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 6: to be an immediate help for the Minnesota Twins and 67 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 6: should be. But you got to give to get and 68 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 6: you got to give qual to get quality. 69 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 2: And this is one of the best. 70 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 6: You know, there's very very few lockdown closures and a 71 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 6: very few Mariano Rivera's out there, and this. 72 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 2: Is, uh, this is really as good as it gets. 73 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 2: I mean, you got anytime you get a guy with a. 74 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 6: Ninety eight mile an hour split and a guy who 75 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 6: puts the ball on the ground better than anybody, more than, 76 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 6: in fact, even more than I think our own Christopher Sanchez. 77 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 6: He gets the ball on the ground a lot and 78 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,919 Speaker 6: uh or close to it. And you know what was 79 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 6: interesting to look at his numbers. They do get some 80 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 6: hits against him. They do not hit the ball out 81 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 6: against him. You gave up what one home run the 82 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 6: entire season so far. But he he gets out and 83 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 6: that's what you need. And he's got an unbelievable power arm. 84 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 6: Anywhere from one hundred to one hundred and two mile 85 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 6: an hour fastball for seemer ninety eight miles split doesn't 86 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 6: look like he's got a ton of deception in his delivery, 87 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 6: but the deception comes in the power and uh, and 88 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 6: they got a great one. Think about how they line 89 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 6: up that bullpen now instead of Strom and Coirkering, think 90 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 6: about that Strama Cookering. We're like the two guys in 91 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 6: the back end. Now they got Robertson, Duran Kirkering and 92 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 6: Strom and Alvarado's coming back at least for a little while, 93 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 6: not during the playoffs. 94 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:30,239 Speaker 2: But it's a real different look out there right now. 95 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 6: Once Robertson's ready to go, and Durant's you know, in Philadelphia, 96 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 6: pitch him and. 97 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 5: You got him for you got him for three octobers. 98 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 5: And it's gonna be very nice to have that control 99 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 5: and not have to be out there looking for a closer. 100 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 5: The annual closer search will be paused, hopefully the next 101 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 5: it's a few autumn sort next. 102 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 6: First time Thompson has a closer, first time he has 103 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 6: a closer, he's gonna put it in the ninth inning. 104 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was, it was, you know, it was funny. 105 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 3: After the game. 106 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 4: We talked to Dave Dombrowski and Rob Thompson and both 107 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 4: of them like, get me, like and just I mean, 108 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 4: he is the he is the closer, like he is, 109 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 4: he's the clothes. They wanted they got that out there immediately, 110 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 4: like you know, they didn't want to be asked that question. 111 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 4: They were both like that, and even Bryce Harper said, 112 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 4: he's the close. I mean, I assume he's gonna be 113 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 4: the closer. And then there's a little pause. He's like 114 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 4: he should be, and we said no, they said he's 115 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 4: going to be the closer. He's like, yeah, he should be. 116 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 4: He's really really good and he's really dominant, and he 117 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 4: should be the closer. So it was just that was 118 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 4: kind of funny that everybody wanted to make it very cool. 119 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 4: He's not going to be say goodbye the. 120 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:37,919 Speaker 3: Closer by committee. I know that drives a lot of 121 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 3: people nuts. 122 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 4: It's going to be Duran in the ninth inning, no 123 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 4: matter what, if it's a safe situation, it's not going 124 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 4: to be well bringing in Strowm here, because this is 125 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 4: the pocket of the lineup. 126 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 3: It is going to be Duran. 127 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 7: Uh. 128 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 4: Dave Dombrowski also said that in all the conversations that 129 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 4: they were having with all all sorts of different teams 130 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 4: about a closer, a lot of teams said a lot 131 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 4: of a lot of those conversations apparently started with Andrew Painter. 132 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 4: We want Andrew Painter and he's and Dave said, you're 133 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 4: not getting Andrew Painter. And so I don't know if 134 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 4: the Twins asked for Andrew Painter at one point and 135 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 4: then moved. 136 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 2: Off of him. 137 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 4: But Dave said that they've been talking, obviously for several days. 138 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 4: It's not like they just picked up the phone today 139 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 4: and talked to them for the first time. 140 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 3: A couple of days ago. 141 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 4: He had really no, no real expectation that this deal 142 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 4: was going to happen, and we were talking about this. 143 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 4: I think, uh, maybe it's just yesterday ear earlier this 144 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 4: week on the show. 145 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 2: How it seems like those. 146 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 4: Three two or three days right before the trade deadline, 147 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 4: everybody's like, oh, the prices are too high, you know, 148 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 4: the buyers are being unrealistic, the sellers are being unrealistic. 149 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 4: And then when it gets closer, you find a meeting point. 150 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 4: And it seems obviously the Phillies and the Twins found 151 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 4: a common ground. The Twins love the fact that Abel's 152 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 4: going to be able to pitch in the big leagues 153 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 4: right away, and there's the price to pay to get 154 00:07:58,000 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 4: a couple. 155 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 3: You know, two to get durant. 156 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 5: But can we talk about how everybody slots down a 157 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 5: little bit? It also it takes pressure off a guy 158 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 5: like Orian Kirkering and Matt Strong and that could make 159 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 5: them better. 160 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt about it. 161 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, it puts in the sixth, seventh, and eighth. 162 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 5: Now, hey, that was first pitch presented exclusively by our 163 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 5: partners at Parks Casino, Pennsylvania's number one casino. Parkscasino dot 164 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 5: com is the website. You must be twenty one and 165 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 5: if you have a gambling problem called one eine hundred gambler. 166 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 4: Phillies Fans, whether you're sliding in a home or just 167 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 4: chasing your kids around the yard, staying mobile matters. 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You know who else was number 202 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 2: fifty nine? 203 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:36,439 Speaker 5: The manager, he'll give it up if you'll give that. 204 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,319 Speaker 6: I assure you that that the manager will be giving 205 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 6: up his number. 206 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 5: I remember when the Phillies got Andy Ashby, and I 207 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 5: mean this is going way back, and Galen Cisco was 208 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 5: the pitching coach Ruben remember that? Oh yeah, And Galen 209 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 5: wore number forty three and Andy ashpeople wore number forty three, 210 00:10:56,320 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 5: and he wanted forty three. So Galen gave up three. 211 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 5: And I remember, and they gave him some crappy number, 212 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 5: you know. I remember asking him about it. He goes, 213 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 5: I'd rather have a quality pitcher than a quality number. 214 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 2: Gail and Cisco what. 215 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 4: A beauty, Yeah, I think, yeah, I think Rob Thompson 216 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 4: will probably want to get off on the right foot 217 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 4: and make Duran film. 218 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:21,959 Speaker 5: You never know because he always wears a jacket or 219 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 5: a pullover, so you know, you never know what I mean, 220 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 5: who wore you? I guess we used to see Gabe 221 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 5: Kapler's uniform top quite a bit because he was in 222 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 5: good shape. Rhino often wore a it was in great 223 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,199 Speaker 5: shape off and wore a uniform top. But a lot 224 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 5: of these guys wear pullovers nowadays. 225 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 4: Right, Tito, Charlie would always wear a pullover. I never 226 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 4: saw Charlie really. I feel like, well, maybe he did 227 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 4: wear a pull uniform. Anyway, Well, that's when I thought 228 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 4: that was funny. I was thinking about that in the 229 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 4: clubhouse earlier. So Dave Debrowski a couple other thing, interesting 230 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 4: things that he said. I mentioned Andrew Painter, and he 231 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 4: kind of finally verbalized what everybody had been reporting and 232 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 4: been saying for weeks and months and months and months. 233 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 4: Andrew Painter will not be traded. He's not He's not available. 234 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 4: He is not available. So, you know, if anybody's wondering if. 235 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,079 Speaker 6: Now that definitely not now that Abel's been traded, because 236 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 6: now you're really cutting into your upper level starting pitching pieces, 237 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 6: and you know, Suarez is probably going to be gone. 238 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 6: They need upper level pitching pieces that painters gonna have 239 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 6: to be in that rotation next. 240 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 3: Year, right like you. 241 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 4: Right, So now they have they have still had four 242 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 4: of their original six top one hundred prospects, so they 243 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 4: do still do have some guys. We take Painter out 244 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 4: of They have three guys left, Miller, Crawford and run Escobar, 245 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 4: so they you know, that's the question now is Dave 246 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 4: Dombrowski said, we're not Yeah, we're not done. 247 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 2: We're not done. You know. 248 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 4: I think we all think they're going to go out 249 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 4: and try to get it right. We're not done, but 250 00:12:58,720 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 4: we're done in the bullpen. 251 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 2: He says. 252 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, if somebody comes that makes us a crazy offer 253 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 4: that we can't refuse, of course we'll jump on it, 254 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:06,719 Speaker 4: and we wouldn't. But he said, the focus is no 255 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 4: longer in the bullpen. We think that we're set there. 256 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 4: So all signs point to bat right handed bat. Now 257 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 4: that they've given up able and tayit is Uanno Suarez 258 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 4: out of the picture. Are you thinking more of a 259 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 4: outfield type. Yeah, I think Suarez is probably out now right. 260 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 2: I don't think they have enough, Yeah. 261 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,319 Speaker 5: I would think so. I don't know that you can 262 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 5: do two Marquis caliber moves all along. I thought it was, 263 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 5: you know, one Marquee move in a lesser move. So 264 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 5: it sounds like, you know, right handed outfield bat type. 265 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 5: You never know, but that's kind of the way I 266 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 5: would think they're going. I don't think they're done. We 267 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 5: have a full day left. It's an eternity. I think 268 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 5: they'll keep trying to inch it along and you know, 269 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 5: get that right handed batch just kind of augment the 270 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,839 Speaker 5: offense a little bit. I still think I actually, I 271 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 5: think there's enough here if these guys could somehow find 272 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 5: some consistency. But if you can get that right here 273 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 5: in boat to help out a little bit, that would 274 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 5: be great. 275 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 3: Who do you like, Jim? What do you think. 276 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 5: I like Loreano from Baltimore. You know that I've been 277 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 5: talking about when we hear that name. 278 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 6: I think that name is a very strong name, strong 279 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 6: to very strong flow to heavy flow, oh flow to 280 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 6: heavy flow on that name. 281 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 2: I actually do like that name too. 282 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 6: He brings a good energy, good outfielder, can it lefties, 283 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 6: a little bit of. 284 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 2: Protection from the right side. 285 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 6: He's not alhenni Os Suarez, but he can do some things. 286 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 5: But Lewis Roberts still out there. 287 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 2: Lewis Roberts still out there. 288 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 5: It's a Harrison Bader hits lefties. There's guys out there 289 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 5: that are kind of those marginal tweaks. Push it along. 290 00:14:55,680 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 5: You've gotten your big stud acquisition. You know, might be 291 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 5: the marginal incremental improvement that we talk about all the time, 292 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 5: that Pat Gillick talked about all the time. As you 293 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 5: pointed out Todd, sometimes you don't get CC Sabbathia, but 294 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 5: you get Joe Blanton and that pushes you along. So 295 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 5: I think they're at the tweak stage having filled their 296 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 5: biggest need. And I think the bullpen was the biggest 297 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 5: need ahead of offense, and they they got something done. 298 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 5: It really, you know, I think about I was thinking 299 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 5: about they lost Tayid and they really I mean, you 300 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 5: got an agent catcher who's a free agent. They don't 301 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 5: have a real catch. I know Martrons here, but they 302 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 5: don't have They're very thin on catching prospects now. But 303 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 5: we have heard some chatter about this guy Feribus in 304 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 5: clear Water, and I'm just wondering if they like what 305 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 5: they see in him. Not that tiny nay ball player 306 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 5: was going to hold up a deal for a difference 307 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 5: maker that could make a difference in winning and losing 308 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 5: in October. But I do think they like this kid Feribus. 309 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 5: He's opened some eyes a little bit. 310 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 2: And I gotta tell you, man, I don't sleep on Marshan. 311 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 2: If he can stay healthy, and that's a big if. 312 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 2: But if he can stay healthy. 313 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 6: Man, he is really good behind the plate. He can 314 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 6: really throw. He threw another great made a great throw 315 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 6: on Robert. He ended up getting called safe on a switchover. 316 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 6: And I just feel like this guy's a pretty damn 317 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 6: good catchers and they've got under him under control for 318 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 6: a long time. 319 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 2: They've got five years on this guy. 320 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 5: So in terms of let's get off to trades for 321 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 5: a minute, although that's the spicy stuff people want to 322 00:16:54,600 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 5: hear about. Yeah, internal move coming in other words, justin Crawford. 323 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,919 Speaker 6: I think trust and Crawford's coming on the first I 324 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 6: really do. 325 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 326 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,439 Speaker 4: Well, even if they go out and they get a 327 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 4: let's say, for argument, say a Loreano, a baiter, somebody 328 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 4: like that, you still think he's coming. It just just 329 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:20,479 Speaker 4: a total outfield shake up. 330 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 6: Well, if they do come up with an outfielder, then 331 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 6: you're talking about sending You're probably ending ending up having 332 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 6: to release the left fielder and Kepler, and then you're 333 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:43,719 Speaker 6: talking about also sending somebody down. So you're probably sending 334 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 6: down weston Wilson, right, because I don't think you're sending 335 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:53,919 Speaker 6: Rojas down, So West and Wilson becomes the guy the 336 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 6: you know, the guy out, and Marsh becomes sort of 337 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 6: the left fieldercause Loreano can. 338 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 2: Play center field. 339 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 6: M hmm. 340 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 3: I would like to see Crawford get a shot. 341 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 5: Could could Crawford go to left and you stick with 342 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 5: Marsh in center? I mean here, that's his best position. 343 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 2: I'd rather put. 344 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 6: I'd rather put see what Crawford can do in centerfield, 345 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 6: and then put marton left, and then in late in 346 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 6: the game, you could put Marsh and right. 347 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 3: You know, that's what they should do. Yeah, they should put. 348 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 6: They should put you know, if Crawford's there in center 349 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 6: and and uh or Loreano and and then Crawford and left, 350 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 6: whichever way. 351 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 2: I mean, you got to get a better. 352 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 6: Defense because as much as you want to talk about 353 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 6: Cassianos and being upset about getting taken out of games, 354 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 6: he can't move out there very well. And he can't throw. Yeah, 355 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 6: he's not a good thrower. I mean you're running on 356 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 6: him all the time. I don't know when the last 357 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 6: time he had a a an outfield assist. I don't 358 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 6: really remember one. But he's not a good thrower and 359 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 6: he's not a great defender. He just can't. 360 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 2: You don't have a foot speed. 361 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:26,239 Speaker 6: It's not about angles and catching the ball and all 362 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 6: that stuff. Will catch the ball when he gets there, 363 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 6: But I don't think he has enough foot speed right 364 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 6: now to be able to not defend for him, especially 365 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 6: when you're talking about winning a playoff game. 366 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree that. 367 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 4: That's why I was so surprising when Rob kind of 368 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 4: backed off that a couple of weeks ago, saying, you know, 369 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,880 Speaker 4: we're not gonna I'm not going to defense out. 370 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 3: For him late in the game. 371 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 4: It's not really sure why, because his jumps aren't great, 372 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 4: like you say, it's slow footed. 373 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 6: And I'm gonna be fascinating to see what happens, because 374 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 6: it's about winning game now, from now until the end 375 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 6: of the season, till the last pitch is made, whether 376 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 6: it's you know, whether it's the end of the season 377 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 6: or it's at the end of the World Series. 378 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 2: It's about w's baby, I don't care, and you're not. 379 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 6: It's about wins, and it's not about development, and it's 380 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 6: not about anything, and it's not about feelings. 381 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 2: It's not personal, it's professional. 382 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 5: It's about winning the World Series. That's why they made 383 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 5: this trade today. This is the type of trade that 384 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 5: you make when you think you can win the World Series. 385 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 5: And they need to start winning some ballgames with some consistency. 386 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 5: Since June one, they are twenty five and twenty five. 387 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 5: That is mediocre. That is mediocre, and it's almost like 388 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:55,199 Speaker 5: a carbon copy of last year when they were a 389 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 5: five hundred team. After June nine. 390 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 6: It's time for them to take off offensively. They got 391 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 6: to figure it out. 392 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 4: They gotta figure it out Phillies. 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You bet bet 422 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:34,120 Speaker 6: Parks and use that app. 423 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 4: It's fun, man, Okay, bet More's gonna ask you. 424 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 3: How about that pitching on Saturday. 425 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 2: Perk's School. You broke up. You broke up a little bit, 426 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 2: My brother. 427 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 3: Broke up a little bit Saturday. 428 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 4: You guys got me now? Saturday pitching matchup Zach Wheeler 429 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 4: versus Terrek School. That would be a good one. I 430 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 4: wanted to mention that real quick. But Jim, you were 431 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 4: talking the other day, and you talked about this last 432 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 4: week on our show, about how the players in that 433 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 4: clubhouse were kind of hoping for something big to happen, 434 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 4: and you know big, a big move to happen. They 435 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,719 Speaker 4: got it today and Bryce Harper talked about it, you know, 436 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 4: Kyle Schwarber talked about it. 437 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 3: Kyle Schwarber compared it to the move that the Cubs 438 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 3: made in twenty sixteen when they got a roll. 439 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 4: As Chapman, he said, He's like, oh, man, that brought 440 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 4: some energy into that clubhouse, that got us fired up, 441 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 4: That got us fired. 442 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 6: Did Dombrowski get the standing hone when he walked into 443 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 6: the club He did not. 444 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 4: You know, it's We've talked about this before and it 445 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 4: is still one of my favorite kind of like memories, 446 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 4: trade deadline memories. 447 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 3: And for those people that are that are new to 448 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:48,679 Speaker 3: this show, I will tell it. 449 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 4: Philly's trade deadline July twenty ninth, two thousand and nine. 450 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 3: They were going after Roy Halliday and they. 451 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 4: Going after Cliff Lee. They got Cliff Lee. It's before 452 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 4: the game and the deal's done. Everybody is super excited. 453 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 4: The Phillies get Cliff Lee and Ruben comes into the 454 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 4: clubhouse just struck this major deal and he gets a 455 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,959 Speaker 4: round of applause from the players in the clubhouse. They 456 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 4: were so excited about getting Cliff Lee. I remember specifically, 457 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 4: remember Shane Victorino standing and giving you a standing O. 458 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 4: Jim Jimmy, you were in there, right, I mean you 459 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 4: remember that. 460 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 5: I was not there. I Seattle chasing down Roy Halliday 461 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 5: making his last start for the Blue Jays, and you know, 462 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 5: they give Ruben a standing ovation in Arizona and up 463 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 5: in Seattle, Roy Halliday pitches his guts out and learns 464 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 5: that Cliff Lee is going to Philadelphia, the place that 465 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 5: he wanted to be. And Roy had this unforgettable look 466 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,439 Speaker 5: of disappointment on his face after that game. 467 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,679 Speaker 4: But yeah, that's right, that's right. You were up there 468 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 4: following them along because that was the thing that was 469 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 4: going to happen. And then Ruben nan to put a 470 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 4: little end around and got Cliff and said, Ruben, what 471 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:01,719 Speaker 4: do you remember about that? 472 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 3: I mean that moment that that what a cool What 473 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 3: a cool moment that was. 474 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,719 Speaker 6: I have to say that was one of my cooler 475 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 6: moments as a GM. When the players acknowledged some of 476 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 6: that stuff. That was really cool. You know. I I 477 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 6: felt like it was I was incumbent upon me as 478 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 6: an executive to do it, you know, what you possibly 479 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 6: can to try to make you know, your contending team 480 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 6: a real contender. And uh, it was a lot of 481 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 6: hard work from a lot of people. 482 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 2: It's not about It wasn't really about me. 483 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 6: It was about a lot of the scouts and the 484 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 6: people that worked really hard to watch. 485 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 2: I had people flying all over the fricking place. 486 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 6: Watching game after game after game of every single high 487 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 6: and starting picture that might be available. And I mean, 488 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 6: those guys just did a super job and they deserve 489 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 6: a lot of credit. Really, the pro scouts are the 490 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 6: ones that got it done. 491 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 2: And uh, just took a lot of phone calls, man, 492 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:02,719 Speaker 2: a lot of angst. 493 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 6: But there are a lot of people involved helping them 494 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 6: make that decision. But it was cool to be acknowledged 495 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 6: in that way by the players. That's I felt a 496 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:16,880 Speaker 6: little bit like a little bit like when I had 497 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 6: players come up to me after I did not make. 498 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,120 Speaker 2: The playoff roster in ninety three. 499 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 6: I had several players, one in particular Milk Thompson and 500 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 6: Lenny Dykster and some others who came to me and said, man, 501 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,199 Speaker 6: you should definitely be on this playoff roster, be on 502 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 6: his team. You got screwed and when you have that 503 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 6: kind of I don't know, when they add that kind 504 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 6: of acknowledgment from your peers and from the players, that's 505 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 6: that's pretty cool. 506 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 2: That's cool. 507 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 5: It was Harper's reaction to them. 508 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 4: I mean, Harper, you know, I see if I can 509 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 4: find the quote that I used in my story, and 510 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,679 Speaker 4: he basically said, it's it's huge. It shows that I 511 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 4: basically said, he has faith in our ability, he being 512 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 4: Dave Dombrowski in this team to win games. We've got 513 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 4: a really good chance to win a World Series this year. 514 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 4: And then Kyle Schwarber said, whenever you make a splash 515 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 4: for a high caliber player, that means something. And then 516 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:13,239 Speaker 4: he kind of talked about Eraldus Chapman. So you know, 517 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 4: Bryce was you know, Bryce was Bryce. He he wanted 518 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,640 Speaker 4: to see something big and he got something big. And 519 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 4: you know now, and he also is head of point. 520 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 4: He's like, and we're not done yet. We're not done yet. 521 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,360 Speaker 3: You know, we're still there's still more to do. There's 522 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:26,919 Speaker 3: still more to do. 523 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,439 Speaker 4: So I think he's also hoping that they can go 524 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 4: out and get a bat and make some other upgrades 525 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 4: of the roster because he wants to win the World series, 526 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 4: he sat on Monday, I'll move out the left field 527 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 4: if you can get the right piece. 528 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 3: I don't think that's going to happen now at this point, 529 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 3: you never know. 530 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 5: But they had not, you know, Dave had not made 531 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,719 Speaker 5: a move like this. This is by far his biggest 532 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 5: what's his fourth trade deadline, it's his biggest move at 533 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 5: a trade deadline since he has been here. 534 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 4: Right, yeah, so at fifth trade deadline, right twenty twenty 535 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 4: one he got like Kyle Gibson and Ian Kennedy, remember 536 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 4: that so far? 537 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that was that was twenty. 538 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 2: One, right, Yeah, was he here then? I think so? 539 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 6: Right, it was me. 540 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 2: I think you was. Maybe he was. I don't know, 541 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 2: now I'm not. 542 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,360 Speaker 4: I mean, now you have these second guess in Jim, 543 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,120 Speaker 4: but it's. 544 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:23,159 Speaker 5: It's it's quarter of eleven, a quarter of twelve, quarter. 545 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:24,919 Speaker 2: Of midnight in the east. 546 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 5: So but I mean, he had made a move of 547 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,679 Speaker 5: this significance, and you know, I was thinking about something today. 548 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 5: So when they signed Bryce Harper, Matt Clintac was the 549 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 5: GM and if you remember they they met with Harper 550 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 5: out Vegas. I guess it was and Harper basically interviewed 551 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 5: the Phillies front office, like Middleton and the interviewed clintact 552 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 5: about direction of the franchise, and you know, convinced me 553 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 5: this is the place I want to sign. And when 554 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 5: I was at NBC Sports and we did that. Remember 555 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 5: we did that documentary Todd signing Harper at least a show. 556 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 4: And all the rain delays, ever rain delays, you're signing Harper. 557 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 5: But at one point in that documentary, I was interviewing 558 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 5: John Middleton for the documentary and he made the comment 559 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 5: that it really jumped out at him or impressed him actually, 560 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 5: about Bryce and Bryce's commitment to winning that Bryce asked 561 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 5: Matt Clintech, you know, do you have the guts to 562 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 5: give up young prospects and young talent and make that 563 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 5: big move when we're this close to winning the World Series? 564 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 5: And that quote has been kind of resonating in my 565 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 5: mind recently. And you know what they did. They did. 566 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 5: They made That's the type of move that that you 567 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 5: have to make. They gave up two good prospects and 568 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 5: you know that a lot of people would like to 569 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 5: have and they got themselves. They filled a very big need. 570 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 5: A closure less team, a closer less team now has 571 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 5: one of the best closers in baseball. 572 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 2: For two plus years. Three octobers. 573 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 5: Three octobers. 574 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 3: Yep, big. 575 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 4: So we will see what the Phillies do on Thursday deadline, 576 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 4: six pm Eastern. 577 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 3: We'll be back either Thursday night Friday morning. We'll wrap 578 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 3: it all up. Guys, thanks for staying up with me, Tod. 579 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 2: You had had a long day. Man, you're a grinder, 580 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 2: You're a gamer. 581 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, gracious now, it was fun. 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