1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: Happy Sunday morning. I guess is what I could say. 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 2: Marlin's trade Hazus Lozardo to the Philadelphia Phillies in exchange 3 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 2: for two prospects. I believe it's Starling Caba and one 4 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 2: more person, Alex if you want to clarify that, I 5 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 2: haven't been able to really track. Okay, Yeah, Starling Caba 6 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 2: and Marian Boyd is a two for one package. Lozardo 7 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 2: going to the in division rival Philadelphia Phillies. I think 8 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 2: there's a different ways to look at this trade. Kaba 9 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 2: is a pretty good player for the most part. 10 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 1: I like Caba. 11 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 2: Actually, that's someone who we were looking at a decent 12 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 2: trunk during the trade deadline last year. 13 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 1: So that's that's a good acquisition for sure. 14 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 2: And then Boyd, I'm not too familiar on him, But 15 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 2: I think it's more the optics of trading in division, 16 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 2: especially with the Phillies, is what kind of sours this 17 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 2: trade a little bit. 18 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: Carver, But just want to get your thoughts real quick. 19 00:00:56,120 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're going in division to a team that is 20 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 3: already good and they just stockpile and they keep their 21 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 3: top guys. You know, when it first came out by 22 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 3: Robert that it was the Phillies. My mind immediately went 23 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 3: to Andrew Painter, Gabrian Kones, Guys like that that are 24 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 3: that are more established players, you know, especially for a 25 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 3: picture like Luzardo who yes has his issues, yes has 26 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 3: his health issues and and everything else that has been 27 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 3: up and down in his career, but is a lefty 28 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 3: that is highly sought after that. 29 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 4: There's ninety eight ninety nine. 30 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 3: Like you, you want to get more than this or 31 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 3: just wait till the deadline, But apparently the Marlins thought 32 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 3: that this was too good to pass up. 33 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:36,279 Speaker 4: Kaba. 34 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 3: He reminds me of de Gordon, with maybe a little 35 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 3: bit better defense, no power to contact. 36 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 4: Switch hitter. 37 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 3: Probably will stick at shortstop, but won't see him probably 38 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 3: till it's twenty twenty seven, twenty twenty six, still basically 39 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 3: his whole minor league career ahead of him. And then 40 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 3: the other guy, Boyd is speed and possibly has the 41 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 3: ability to stick in center field. That's where they wanted 42 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 3: him to be. I'm sure that's where the Marlins will 43 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 3: want him to be. Whose offense has a lot of 44 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 3: question marks around it, especially in the department of Power's 45 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 3: basically nothing. 46 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 4: So we'll see what happens with these guys. 47 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 3: I think he's probably a little bit further ahead and 48 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:13,239 Speaker 3: when he reaches the majors, maybe twenty twenty six. But man, 49 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 3: I think that this is a little bit underwhelming for 50 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,679 Speaker 3: the Marlins. I mean, you do get two guys who 51 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 3: could be decent bats, who don't strike out, who hit 52 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 3: for contact, they don't hit for power. 53 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 4: At least one of. 54 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 3: Them plays really good defense. The other one Jerry still 55 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 3: out on if he gets stick in center field. Speed 56 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 3: should allow him to. But I don't think it's enough 57 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 3: for Luzarto. I think they should have waited to the deadline, 58 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 3: and to go in division just makes it hurt a 59 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 3: little bit more. 60 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 4: So this is not good for me. 61 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 3: I would give this probably a C grade if at 62 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 3: best they could have done a lot better. 63 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: Isaac. I'll go to you your thoughts on. 64 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 5: The trade, hey, Kevin, I mean, without doubt they were 65 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 5: if they were going to trade Lozard to this offseason, 66 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 5: before he even reported a certain training, before the teams 67 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 5: could get any glimpse at him, they were going to 68 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 5: be selling low. Do you mentioned the season that he 69 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 5: had last year, Even the velocity wasn't exactly a ninety 70 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 5: nine ninety ye either he was really sitting ninety six 71 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 5: ninety seven, and I remember correctly he didn't pitch that often. 72 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 5: When he did, he just did not look like the 73 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 5: Luzzarno of twenty twenty three. He did not look like 74 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 5: the game one wildcard starter. So we knew that if 75 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 5: they were going to trade him now, which we talked 76 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 5: about in the chat, it wasn't to be selling low. 77 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 5: I think that with what they got here. I don't 78 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 5: know how the Phillies feel about Kaba. 79 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: I think it seems. 80 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 5: Pretty sorry, seems not great for Miami, but pretty darn 81 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:31,239 Speaker 5: fair considering what a small risk it is for Philadelphia 82 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 5: to acquire the starting pitch. You don't know what you're 83 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 5: gonna get for it, and it's just two more years 84 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 5: of club control and you're getting. Arguably probably does Caaba 85 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 5: range gets the number one prospect for Miami now, I 86 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 5: think so. An incredible defensive shortstop who, like Carver mentioned, 87 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 5: does not strike. 88 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 4: Out at all. 89 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 5: Was a number thirteenth ranked international free agent in twenty 90 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 5: twenty three, So I for three million dollars of the 91 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 5: Phillies obviously think of him pretty highly. It is hit 92 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 5: over power at the moment with a ton of pretty remaining, 93 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 5: he is gonna grow into grow into his body a 94 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 5: little bit more. I presume he is gonna be nineteen 95 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 5: for the entire twenty twenty five season. And yeah, he's 96 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 5: got the entire minor league, his entire minor league career 97 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 5: ahead of him. It's gonna be very exciting to follow 98 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 5: his development. And I guess yeah, when you think of 99 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 5: Lozard and you think of what he's done for this organization, 100 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 5: you think of what Miami gave up, which was an 101 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 5: excellent at the time. Marte, I guess I can see 102 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 5: why this would seem underwhelming. But to me personally, I 103 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 5: am I think I like this. Iflizara goes out and 104 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 5: shoves for the next two seasons, maybe you look at 105 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 5: this with a little regret. But we don't know how 106 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 5: Lozara is gonna look and you have a phenomenal defensive 107 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 5: shortstop who has great bats of ball skills. 108 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 1: Yes, it's always a risk as well, but. 109 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 5: I think Miami feels they did excellent. I think they 110 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 5: did okay, and we'll just see how it plays out. 111 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 5: But Miami did really get a special prospect in Kava. 112 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 3: I don't understand, like you said everything I said basically, Isaac, 113 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 3: I don't understand why they don't wait to the deadline, 114 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 3: like you could have at least gotten at the deadline. 115 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 3: You're not gonna get any left the deadline, right. 116 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 6: I want to step in on that because I spent 117 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 6: a lot of time thinking about that particular thing when 118 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 6: the Cubs rumors heated up. I was diving into what 119 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 6: is like the precedent for other pitchers in this position, 120 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 6: where you have a couple of years of control, you're 121 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 6: on a bad team. It's not a matter of when 122 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 6: you're gonna get traded. It's a matter of no, it's 123 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 6: not a matter of if. It's a matter of when 124 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 6: get traded. Right here, this is a guy that he 125 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 6: does have a history of elbow issues. Even though the 126 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 6: back injury is what ultimately did him in last year, 127 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 6: he also had another elbow issue again. He had a 128 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 6: minor four arm strain that caused him miss a few weeks. 129 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 6: He's had Tommy John in the past. You can just 130 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 6: look around the league. A few days ago, Patrick Sandoval 131 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 6: signs a free agency deal with the Red Sox. He's 132 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 6: a guy that, like at this time six months ago, 133 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 6: it was a very similar asset, you could say, as 134 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 6: Lizarda on the Angels, he blows out his elbow. It 135 00:05:58,160 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 6: turns out that because he's gonna miss most of the 136 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 6: next year, they ended up just cutting him instead of 137 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 6: paying him to rehab, and they get nothing in return 138 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 6: for him. Now, like going through the other like comparables, 139 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 6: there really weren't a ton that I felt were like 140 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 6: a great comparison to him in terms of all that 141 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 6: many cautionary tales of this at the same time, when 142 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 6: they're so dead set on the fact that they were 143 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 6: going to deal him. 144 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 7: It was such the worst kept secret possible. 145 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 6: In fact, I was surprised to see him like out 146 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 6: in the community a few days ago for holiday activities 147 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 6: because you felt like he could go at any minute 148 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 6: and didn't know how he's going to handle that. It 149 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 6: was just incredibly awkward because they went through the same 150 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 6: song and dance last off season, because. 151 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 7: Of how the conversations were going. 152 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 6: Even midway through last season when it was assumed that 153 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 6: he was going to be traded at the deadline, he 154 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 6: just wasn't healthy enough to get moved right then. So 155 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 6: it stinks because they considered this a year ago and 156 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 6: undoubtedly a year ago they would have gotten a lot 157 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 6: more in return because he had a full year of control, 158 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 6: extra he was coming off a better year, and they 159 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 6: did have those negotiations last year with several teams during 160 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 6: the off season. 161 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 7: So that's kind of. 162 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 6: What stings where and you'll look back on it, and 163 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 6: I think a lot of us were of the opinion 164 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 6: that it would have been really distasteful to move him 165 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 6: at this time a year ago, coming off a playoff 166 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 6: birth and all that he accomplished individually, So there was 167 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 6: just really no way of winning here unless there's that 168 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 6: little scenario that he pitches as well as ever the 169 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 6: first half of this upcoming season and he's fully healthy, 170 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 6: then he gets dealt, and I absolutely agree that they 171 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 6: would have gotten more in return of that. A lot 172 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 6: of this just comes down to the fact that pitchers 173 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 6: are handled a lot differently than position players. Their value 174 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 6: can fluctuate so rapidly that in a way that I 175 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 6: don't think we always really think about, but it does 176 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 6: like there is there was certain there certainly was significant 177 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 6: upside holding on to him, and certainly from a perception standpoint, 178 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 6: this is awful. This team going into next year It's 179 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 6: hard to think of another team in Marlin's history. Assuming 180 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 6: they don't make any significant additions, it goes into a 181 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 6: year with like so little chance of being good. But 182 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 6: I understand it from both sides. If they feel like 183 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 6: they have a couple guys that the gang in returne 184 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 6: at least one that they feel as a chance to 185 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 6: be an an everyday player and not too distant future. 186 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 3: You know, I was just gonna say, too, like what 187 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 3: I guess it doesn't matter and they don't care. 188 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 4: Obviously they don't care. 189 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: But who who is? 190 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 6: Now? 191 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 4: What does this rotation all look like? Without that was old? 192 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 3: I mean, man like, there isn't much as we know, 193 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 3: there isn't much major league ready, and not much at 194 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 3: all that they're going to rush at all to pitch 195 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 3: this year in the minors. 196 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 4: So I don't know, I think this looks pretty poorous. 197 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 3: I mean, I think this is definitely shapping up to 198 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 3: be one hundred lost team, maybe worse than. 199 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 4: Nineteen ninety eight. 200 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, as of now, I mean, you hope everything goes 201 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 5: smoothly with Sandy, which I believe it will from what 202 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 5: I've understood. You definitely have Ryan Weathers ready, you have 203 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 5: Edward Cabrera. Ready, I'm gonna mention Braxton Garrett yet, because, 204 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 5: like we've talked about before, I don't know what the 205 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 5: situation is in with him right now, but I hope 206 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 5: that he's in there as well. And then you're gonna 207 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 5: have to depend on Valencie Beozo's and I'm sure a 208 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 5: couple more minor league signings will be made. I did 209 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 5: make the prediction on our last unfiltered episode Adam Mazer 210 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 5: will break camp in the Marlins rotation. 211 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 4: That definitely looks a little bit better now. 212 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 5: Max Peter Bendix is very adamant about Max Meyer being 213 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 5: a starting pitcher. I think it's gonna be basically open 214 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 5: tryout the first half of the season. It's gonna be 215 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 5: all these guys, aside from Weathers and Sandy of course, 216 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 5: and the other veterans quote unquote veterans, But yeah, a 217 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 5: lot of young guys are gonna have their opportunity to 218 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 5: stick in this rotation to show what they got and 219 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 5: if they don't like it, they can either go to 220 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 5: the bullpen or Marlins. 221 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: Will move on. 222 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 5: But yeah, those are those are the guys right now. 223 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: So if they thought that they were gonna sign someone 224 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: to be to help with the innings. 225 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 5: I think they that's definitely true now because they cannot 226 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:00,319 Speaker 5: go into April, like I'll give them most of the 227 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 5: spring training to find someone. So I player that was 228 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 5: caught from a contender or whatever it maybe, but they 229 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 5: need to get some help with these innings because you 230 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 5: cannot count on whether it's to give you one sixty 231 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 5: one seven you can. 232 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 3: And what's going going off with Braxton is sandy all 233 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 3: the way back? What's going on with your like there's 234 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 3: so many question marks. And the thing is, like even 235 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 3: with the guys that you just mentioned, Isaak, the rotation 236 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 3: is in pitching, it's still lining up to be better 237 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 3: than the offense, even with the loss of Lozardo, Like 238 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 3: this lineup literally could it could be in triple A 239 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 3: almost every player, like it's this is gonna be a 240 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 3: I hope Marlin Sprands are ready for at least one 241 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 3: hundred losses And that's just being realistic, yes. 242 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 2: And I think another stressful part too is just the 243 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 2: type of player they traded for, you know, like we 244 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 2: saw them trade already for for like these three prospects, 245 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 2: all of them very similar. And I know Cabas I 246 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 2: think the little a little bit different in terms of 247 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 2: just this defense. But it is a little bit you know, 248 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 2: you're you're asking yourself. You have so much of the 249 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 2: same profile, Now what are you going to do? You know, 250 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 2: like sir, not a coast of Vargas Cabba And now 251 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 2: this the Marion Boyd guy who isn't very good no offense. 252 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 2: I mean, he has a lot of speed, but yeah, 253 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 2: I mean it's it's definitely a little stressful. I wish 254 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 2: it would go after a different kind of profile in 255 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 2: these trades kind of look what we would have seen 256 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 2: with like an Owen Casey for example, But it is 257 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 2: what it is. They traded Lozardo and I think it's 258 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 2: a fine return. I hate that he went to the Phillies. 259 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 2: I think trading a division. I get you play them less, 260 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,439 Speaker 2: but it is not good to say that that you're 261 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 2: going in division with us trade, especially with the Phillies 262 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 2: of all teams. 263 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 3: Right, And the thing is, Kevin like anything can happen 264 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 3: with these players. But in January, they're gonna bring in 265 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 3: several more players with that same kind of profile, right, 266 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think they're attacking. 267 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 5: I mean maybe there are, because they know that if 268 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 5: let's say they do become redundant, they can flip them 269 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 5: again if when. 270 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 1: They are competitive. But I also think they. 271 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,559 Speaker 5: Are going for best player available and they're not gonna 272 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 5: go for a different player. 273 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: That's the same as a draft strategy. 274 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 5: They're not gonna target specific need with these prospects. I 275 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 5: think they are just going for best player and available available. 276 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:08,719 Speaker 5: And I assume that you know Painter wasn't available to 277 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 5: the other Raconas wasn't available, Taba was the best player available, 278 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 5: and in that case, you don't pass on him just 279 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 5: because you have, you know, freaking a Coasta. So no, 280 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 5: I don't have that big of an issue. I do 281 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 5: have more of an issue in training within the division. 282 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: But I also find the. 283 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 5: Argument, no, why should you cut out someone else just 284 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 5: because they're there, That lowers shrinks the market a bit. 285 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: So I I just it's hard to see. 286 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 5: Him going to the Phillies because this is a team 287 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 5: that eliminated you in the postseason. 288 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: They lately, at least. 289 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 5: Like in twenty twenty twenty twenty one, the World's had 290 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 5: their number for a while. But that is not going 291 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 5: to be the case anytime soon. That it was not 292 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,959 Speaker 5: the case last year, and the Phillies hadn't really made 293 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 5: a big move quite yet. They made a few with 294 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 5: Romano and they had Kepler, but this is their big 295 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 5: move up for now. I think I still think they 296 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 5: have another one in the chambers. But yeah, it is 297 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 5: tough to significantly help your heated division rival so much 298 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 5: at the major league level when you don't even know 299 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 5: what you're gonna get for a very long time. And 300 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 5: that's what makes it a little bit of a tough 301 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 5: toil to swallow. But it's business. This happens every single 302 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 5: lost season, stuff like this. But we shall see. If 303 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 5: I remember, I think it was Kim that had a 304 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 5: big issue in trading within the division that she didn't 305 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 5: want to trade on him Duval. Yeah, so I'm glad. 306 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: It's just significant. 307 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 3: Of what I said earlier, like they don't care. Yes, 308 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 3: what you said and I said at the beginning, Isaac 309 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 3: is what we all would think is that you hate 310 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 3: to see your heated division rival get better, and you're 311 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 3: literally making them better. As long as Zaro is healthy, 312 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 3: he's gonna pitch well. Like as long as he's been 313 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 3: healthy since his days in the Upper Miners where he 314 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 3: was struggling about with control and command. Since he's figured 315 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 3: that out with mel like especially most of the way, 316 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 3: I guess I should say he has been damn good 317 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 3: and if he is healthy for the Phillies, he will 318 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 3: be good. Yea, even pitching in that. I think he's 319 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 3: going to be good if he's healthy. So that guy 320 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 3: makes your team better. And the Marlins made the Phillies 321 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 3: better today, right. 322 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 4: And that sucks. 323 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 3: But it's significant of the fact that they don't care. 324 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 3: They don't care about the next three to four, maybe 325 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 3: even five years. They don't care about competing at the 326 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 3: major league level. They're not going to very likely unless 327 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 3: a lot of these prospects to get here quickly, they're. 328 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 4: Not going to compete. 329 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 3: And this year is going to be significant of that 330 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 3: in a lot of them with different ways. 331 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 4: This kind of just puts the cherry on top of it. 332 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 4: This year. 333 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 3: Like I said, I don't want to keep harping on 334 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 3: it and hope, we hope for the best. 335 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 4: But this year we're going to see a lot of 336 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 4: young players. Let's just say that. We'll believe it at that. 337 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 5: No, I don't know if it's a lot that if 338 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 5: he's healthy, he pitches well, I know he has pitched 339 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 5: well the last not last year, but twenty twenty three, 340 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 5: twenty twenty two. But you remember how bad he was 341 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 5: when you first got here and he was healthy. 342 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: You look out how bad he wasn't. 343 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 5: Healthy last year where he was pretty bad on the 344 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 5: mound last year. And if this was just a question 345 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 5: of him being healthy, then Miami probably would have gone 346 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 5: a little bit more. But I think every one knows 347 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 5: that at this point. You know, has Miami squeezed out 348 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 5: the best of Lozardo? 349 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: I certainly hope not. 350 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 5: He's an excellent kid who is a great pitcher, but 351 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 5: is have we. 352 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: Seen the best of Buzard in his career? 353 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 5: He's very young still, but still he did not pitch 354 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 5: great and there was some there's some concern with the 355 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 5: way he threw last year, and it wasn't just injury based, 356 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 5: so I think it. 357 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 4: Was based on injury. 358 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 5: But we can agree to the store a lot of 359 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 5: it is sure, But like I said, if it was 360 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 5: only an injury injury issue, maybe Miami can get more. 361 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 8: But yeah, yeah, that's too far, that's too far. 362 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 6: No, that's a few to the success. 363 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: In Chile. Wow, people. 364 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 6: Know that we're big fans of p mac From the 365 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 6: very beginning of his pro career, things have tailed off 366 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:00,080 Speaker 6: quite a bit to this point where. 367 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 7: He's not it. 368 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 6: I would not say that he has considerable value in 369 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 6: this deal, but I'm good to see if this means 370 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 6: that he has a slightly higher likelihood of getting a 371 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 6: cup of coffee in the majors after being an undrafted 372 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 6: free agent. 373 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 7: That's also for him. 374 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:16,359 Speaker 1: That's ridiculous. 375 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 9: Wow, with the cherry on top, they weren't going to 376 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 9: do it all. Yeah, you don't Macintosh, I don't want Luzardo. Hey, 377 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 9: shout out to Landing Spo. 378 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: Hell. Yeah, shout out to Dave Dombroski. 379 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 4: He got a great one right there. 380 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: That's sane. 381 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 6: I do want to switch tones briefly, because we're not 382 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 6: that far moved from the Jake Berger trade, which was 383 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 6: very unpopular, even if it was on a smaller scale. 384 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 6: I have a friend that I've known for at least 385 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 6: ten years now and that it's been a big Marlins fan. 386 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 6: And after the Burger I mean he was he was 387 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 6: unhappy after the Rise trade in May, but again after 388 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 6: the Burger trade, gave me this like really long message. 389 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 6: And he's not the only one, I guess someone that 390 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 6: runs our site. You see a lot of these big 391 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 6: rants after these unpopular deals during the bendix about people 392 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 6: that have been lifetime Marvelins fans are hardcore fans, and 393 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 6: they say this is the final straw. I'm done after this, 394 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:11,719 Speaker 6: And in ninety nine percent of cases they don't mean it. 395 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 6: They mean they're just really really upset by something and 396 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 6: they want to vent about it. 397 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 7: And you under and I gotta understand it. 398 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 6: And so this one is just a couple of weeks 399 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 6: away from saying he's completely out on the Marlins. 400 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 7: He doesn't want to talk about them ever again. And 401 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 7: I know that in the back. 402 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 6: Of his minds they you look for any excuse if 403 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 6: you're a longtime fan, to get hooked again and take care, 404 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 6: some reason of care. And I get another message from him, 405 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 6: like three minutes ago that begins in all caps with 406 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 6: fuck this org and then it goes on for a 407 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 6: couple of different paragraphs about this Lizardo deal trading to 408 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 6: the Phillies. 409 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 7: So I gotta sympathize with that. We're gonna follow this 410 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 7: tea no matter what. 411 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 6: But I understand that there are fans out there that 412 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 6: have really had a rough year in trying to get 413 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 6: interested in this team because well, it's one unhopp their 414 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 6: move right after another. 415 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 7: They don't care about the value of the prospects because. 416 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 6: Brings them farther and farther and farther away from like 417 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 6: single scenario where it actually all comes together. So that's 418 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 6: this is one example. Shout out to Mario. I hope 419 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:16,719 Speaker 6: he's going to get through it, but yeah, this is 420 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 6: it's to go back to what Carvin mentioned, they really 421 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 6: don't care about the pr side. 422 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 7: Of this and the perception side of it. 423 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 6: If they feel that further down the road, it gives 424 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 6: them a better chance of actually connecting all the dots 425 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 6: and making this work right now and in the meantime 426 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 6: it is it's really painful. I do not know, I 427 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 6: do not know how this team is going to be 428 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:42,239 Speaker 6: like profitable locally in the meantime. It's just such an 429 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 6: unattractive product that even for us that have invested so 430 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 6: many years and even multiple generations into following this team, 431 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 6: they're just not giving you any reason to care at 432 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 6: this point. 433 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 3: Let me let me just call credence to one other 434 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 3: thing that kind of goes into what ELI was just 435 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 3: saying about the pr side. Never mind off the field 436 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 3: or on the field. Look at what Luzarda was off 437 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 3: the field. And this was one of the greatest guys 438 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 3: in the community that you could have ever gotten South 439 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 3: Florida kid. 440 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 4: Douglas High School. After Douglas, he was at. 441 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 3: Every single memorial, every single thing that they did after 442 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 3: that horrible event, he was there doing it with them. 443 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 3: I think the Marlins had like just got back like 444 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 3: it was like obviously they were just getting back into 445 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 3: camp when they were when it was happening, if foreveryear 446 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,360 Speaker 3: he was still there doing all of it like that guy. 447 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 4: And even since then, like. 448 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 3: Every one of these community events that the Marlins put on, 449 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 3: he's right there at it. Loves the community, loved South Florida. 450 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 3: I love South Florida is from here. You're gonna miss 451 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,439 Speaker 3: that too. You're not gonna see him around anymore at 452 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 3: these and that's that's gonna be tough for for people 453 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:47,199 Speaker 3: that are that are you know, dependent on on the Marlins, 454 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 3: the Marlins Foundation and everything that they do. You know 455 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 3: that that guy was a champion in the community, so they'll. 456 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 4: Miss that too. 457 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 3: I know that we that's probably something that fans all 458 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 3: there today, We're only gonna look at the the on 459 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 3: field stuff, which is understandable, but remember that as well, 460 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 3: this guy's a great dude off the field. 461 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, well and you and you. 462 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,360 Speaker 2: Talk to that and he was literally at the at 463 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 2: the Christmas Drive event this week at the stadium, so 464 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:12,360 Speaker 2: it shows you know how much he does for the community. 465 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, And like like Carver said, we we will go 466 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 5: more in depth on the baseball trade, but with these 467 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 5: last two significant trades with Berger and lozarda the Marlins 468 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 5: have traded easily their most marketable position player and pitcher 469 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 5: for all the reasons that Carver mentioned, And so, like 470 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 5: I said, we will dive deep into what this means 471 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 5: for the Marlins system and going forward. But really, like 472 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 5: I know, I'm just being in the busher, but look 473 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 5: at what the Marlins are going to have on the 474 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 5: field to who are they going to have at fan 475 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:45,479 Speaker 5: Fest as the like main players, because Lozardo was the 476 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 5: main guy in the rotation. I guess Sandy's coming back, 477 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 5: so that's good. Berger was definitely that guy on the 478 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 5: position player's side. And yeah, like ELI said, they really 479 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 5: they really don't care. 480 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: And I guess no, ownership group does care. 481 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 5: You're not supposed to care what the fans want or think, 482 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 5: because then you become. 483 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 1: One of them. 484 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 8: Cheez. 485 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 5: But yeah, it's it's it's I guess it's good to 486 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 5: see that they don't care. But at the same time, 487 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 5: I think it does it would benefit them to maybe 488 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:14,479 Speaker 5: keep someone so someone well so fans can attend the 489 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 5: first half of Major League hopes, right, Because. 490 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying, Like, who do you put on 491 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 4: a billboard? 492 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 7: Like? 493 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 4: Who do you put on a program at the stadium? 494 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 4: Like what do you do? Like? 495 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 3: How do you keep fans interested in this team? Yes, 496 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 3: rebuilds are hard. We've been to them before. We know 497 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 3: that rebuilds are very hard to go through. But this 498 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,679 Speaker 3: team has been rebuilding for so long that fans are 499 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 3: just like, Okay, this is just the Marlins again. It's 500 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 3: probably what the what the consensus opinion is, that's at 501 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 3: least them on casual fans. 502 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 4: How do you keep people interested? How do you stay aflow? 503 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 4: How do you continue to make money? 504 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 3: How does Bruce Sherman continue to make money until these 505 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 3: prospects that he hopes. 506 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 4: Get here get here? 507 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 3: It's going to be very difficult and the long term 508 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 3: future of the Marlans. I don't even know if they 509 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 3: if they can survive long enough from a logistical standpoint 510 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 3: to realize some of these prospects that are going to 511 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 3: be twenty seven to twenty eighty nine. 512 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 4: This is an interesting position. 513 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 3: Obviously, all rebuild their top, but this is gonna be 514 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 3: especially hard of the Marlins, I think. 515 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, So anything else from you guys before we. 516 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, I just want to add breaking confirmation from the 517 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 6: trade that this is going to happen. It's gonna be 518 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 6: made official today, Yes, and so Peter Bendix will speak 519 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 6: to us and the rest of the media later today, 520 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 6: so we'll have more from that. 521 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,360 Speaker 1: All right, that sounds good. Then I think we'll wrap 522 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: it up here. 523 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 2: I think just a quick reaction and obviously we'll do 524 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 2: Fish on First Live this week to talk about the trade. 525 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 2: I'm assuming, and uh, we'll have a new top thirty again, 526 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 2: so hopefully it's the last one for a while. 527 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: But yeah, we'll wrap it up here. Thank you guys 528 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:48,239 Speaker 1: for tuning in. 529 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 2: We'll we'll get more from Peter from obviously what we'll see, 530 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 2: you know, just everything unfold a little bit more, going 531 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 2: to a deeper dib. I'm sure Carver will have an 532 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 2: article talking about these two guys in the trade. 533 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: Yep. Thank you guys for for tuning in and as 534 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: always skill fish