WEBVTT - FL Execution: 50 Years on Death Row Ends Tomorrow

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<v Speaker 1>May of their folks. It is Wednesday, April twenty ninth,

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<v Speaker 1>and this week a man is scheduled to die by

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<v Speaker 1>lethal injection for a crime he committed in nineteen seventy six. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>this man has been on death row for fifty years,

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<v Speaker 1>and with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ.

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<v Speaker 1>We're used to hearing twenty even thirty years. Every once

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<v Speaker 1>in a while you throw in a forty here and there.

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<v Speaker 1>Fifty is mind boggling.

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<v Speaker 2>It is mind boggling when you think that James Ernest

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<v Speaker 2>Hitchcock was twenty years old when he committed the act,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was convicted a year later for raping and

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<v Speaker 2>murdering his thirteen year old step niece. This is a

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<v Speaker 2>horrific story. So yes, he is now seventy years old,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's pretty remarkable. Little Cynthia Driggers, she went by Cindy,

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<v Speaker 2>Cindy Drigger's mom. She's still alive, she's eighty one. Because

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<v Speaker 2>she was taken at such a young age, her mom

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<v Speaker 2>has lived to see the day that she actually can

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<v Speaker 2>find peace, and she wants this to happen.

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<v Speaker 3>She wants justice for her daughter, and.

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<v Speaker 1>This James Ernest Hitchcock execution is going to be taking

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<v Speaker 1>place in Florida, going to be taking place tomorrow, scheduled

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<v Speaker 1>for six o'clock Eastern time there in Florida, bi lethal

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<v Speaker 1>injection ropes. It's one of two that we'll have on

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<v Speaker 1>that night in the United States. The other in Texas.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get into that one in another episode, but we'll

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<v Speaker 1>stay focused on this one. En rolls a big part

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<v Speaker 1>of this. We'll get into the crime, but a big

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<v Speaker 1>part of this is why in God's name has a

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<v Speaker 1>family been waiting for fifty years for what the government

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<v Speaker 1>told them is the justice is deserved for their family member.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you believe it if I told you that James

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<v Speaker 2>Ernest Hitchcock has been sentenced to death four times day

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<v Speaker 2>penalty sentencing was overturned three times. So he was initially

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<v Speaker 2>sentenced in nineteen seventy seven, the majority of the jury

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<v Speaker 2>voted for death and I can go through But year

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<v Speaker 2>after year after year, there were different reasons that sentencing

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<v Speaker 2>would be overturned. They'd have to go through another hearing,

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<v Speaker 2>and then it would stick for a while, then there'd

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<v Speaker 2>be another appeal, they'd go through another hearing.

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<v Speaker 3>It was under this poor.

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<v Speaker 2>Family went through years and years, decades of court hearings

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<v Speaker 2>and wondering whether or not that whether or not they

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<v Speaker 2>were going to actually see the day where he went

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<v Speaker 2>to death row.

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<v Speaker 1>He is finally and how many years do you have

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<v Speaker 1>on this last one? When was the last time he

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<v Speaker 1>was re sentenced to death?

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<v Speaker 2>He was re sentenced to death for the final time

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen ninety six. They voted ten to to vote

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<v Speaker 2>for the death penalty. But this one really got me.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen to this one. He came close. He came in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighty three, a federal judge issue to stay on

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<v Speaker 2>the night before his execution. He was supposed to go

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<v Speaker 2>to the electric chair in nineteen eighty three, and the

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<v Speaker 2>day before a federal judge issue to stay. That's I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>he has been think about the I mean, obviously he's

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<v Speaker 2>had a yo yo back and forth.

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<v Speaker 3>Not knowing what was going to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>But that poor family just never knowing, and just when

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<v Speaker 2>they think it's about to end, boom.

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<v Speaker 3>Something else happened. For year was that you said it

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<v Speaker 3>was nineteen eighty three, So.

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<v Speaker 1>In eighty three this family came a night away from peace.

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<v Speaker 1>Correct in eighty three? Do that math for me forty

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<v Speaker 1>years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, forty three years ago, this.

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<v Speaker 1>Family came that close, and now they've they've been didding.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's even worse rope. So this back and forth

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<v Speaker 1>is back and forth. It has continued. Now is he

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<v Speaker 1>out of appeals? Now?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, he is out of appeals and last week the

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<v Speaker 2>Florida is Supreme Court denied, yes, that final appeal for him.

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<v Speaker 2>He was asking for a stay of execution. Once again

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<v Speaker 2>that was denied.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously we know DeSantis is not going to save him

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<v Speaker 1>down there, so this does look like this is it now?

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<v Speaker 1>Finally after fifty years for this family.

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<v Speaker 3>Correct DeSantis signed his death warrant.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe it was April second, so this month he

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<v Speaker 2>carefully reviewed the case and signed the execution. So he

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<v Speaker 2>is not going to be calling at the eleventh hour

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<v Speaker 2>to stop this execution from happening.

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<v Speaker 1>This puts Florida at what for the year six?

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<v Speaker 3>Is this their sixth This was the seventh warrant that

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<v Speaker 3>was signed.

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<v Speaker 2>But we know that the other execution, duck it Ja,

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<v Speaker 2>was staged, so that didn't go through. So I believe

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<v Speaker 2>he will be the sixth person executed. He was the

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<v Speaker 2>seventh death warrant that DeSantis signed of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, this is Florida alone. We're talking about Yes, good

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<v Speaker 1>night Florida. So they're on pace. So yes, when the

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<v Speaker 1>year started, they didn't have a lot of executions on

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<v Speaker 1>the schedule, and he signed these things as they put

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<v Speaker 1>him in front. There's no telling how many they get in.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, he's already signed more so yes, there's more coming,

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<v Speaker 2>but this one that is happening tomorrow. James Ernest Hitchcock,

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to go over the crime for you, because

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<v Speaker 2>this is pretty brutal. And he has, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>maintained his innocence from the beginning, so for the past

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<v Speaker 2>fifty years. He initially said he did it, but he

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<v Speaker 2>said he was covering for his brother. Pretty quickly changed

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<v Speaker 2>his story and has stayed with this story that he

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<v Speaker 2>claims it was his brother who murdered the thirteen year old,

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<v Speaker 2>not him.

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<v Speaker 3>But here, yes, go ahead, but.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, that initial confession was pretty horrific and specific.

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<v Speaker 3>Was it not correct? It was so he was.

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<v Speaker 2>This was in nineteen seventy six, when James Hitchcock actually

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<v Speaker 2>had just been released from an Arkansas prison at the

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<v Speaker 2>age of twenty. His brother let him move in with

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<v Speaker 2>him and his family.

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<v Speaker 3>Two weeks after moving.

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<v Speaker 2>In with his brother, after a night out of drinking

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<v Speaker 2>and smoking weed, around two thirty in the morning, he

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<v Speaker 2>says he came back and he crawled into the house

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<v Speaker 2>through the window of his thirteen year old step niece

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<v Speaker 2>and what he.

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<v Speaker 3>Was convicted of.

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<v Speaker 2>Cynthia began yelling and threatening he raped her, said she

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<v Speaker 2>was going to tell her mom and what he was

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<v Speaker 2>convicted of. The they said he took her outside, beat

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<v Speaker 2>and strangled her to death and then left her body

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<v Speaker 2>outside just in the bushes, went back inside, took a shower,

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<v Speaker 2>and then went to bed. The entire next day, the

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<v Speaker 2>whole family is looking for her. They cannot find little

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<v Speaker 2>thirteen year old Cindy Driggers, and then they find her

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<v Speaker 2>right outside the home in the bushes. And he was

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<v Speaker 2>arrested pretty shortly thereafter.

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<v Speaker 1>And he and then he confessed to a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>this and rope some of this was disturbing to hear.

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<v Speaker 1>How I mean, he goes through in robes and almost

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<v Speaker 1>describes dialogue in a back and forth of him almost

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<v Speaker 1>trying to convince her not to tell mom, and the

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<v Speaker 1>girl insisted that she was going to tell. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it sounded like he didn't want but didn't plan to

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<v Speaker 1>kill her initially, And this was his confession.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct, and he just said he couldn't have because he

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<v Speaker 2>didn't want to go back to prison. Oh, the irony,

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<v Speaker 2>because he obviously knew she was thirteen and he was twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>Now when he changed his story, he claimed that he'd yes,

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<v Speaker 2>did have sex with this thirteen year old, but that

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<v Speaker 2>it was consensual, not that it can be because she'd

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<v Speaker 2>have to be eighteen, but he said she was a

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<v Speaker 2>willing participant. And then right after they had sex, his brother,

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<v Speaker 2>he claims, walked in on them and was so angry

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<v Speaker 2>he took the thirteen year old outside, beat and strangled her.

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<v Speaker 2>And then, because he claims he felt so bad about

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<v Speaker 2>creating suchuation, he told his brother that he would take

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<v Speaker 2>the fall for him. That was his changed story, one

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<v Speaker 2>that a jury did not buy or believe, and one

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<v Speaker 2>that he's been telling now for fifty years. But there's

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<v Speaker 2>not really anyone who's buying what he's selling.

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<v Speaker 1>And no judge has, no appellate court has the Supreme

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<v Speaker 1>Court has not, the State Supreme Court has not. Jeff

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<v Speaker 1>Desantas has not, and Robes he's out of options there

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<v Speaker 1>is at this point, there is nothing. There is nothing

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<v Speaker 1>out there that can save him. So Robes is pretty remarkable.

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<v Speaker 1>This is and we were talking about this earlier. I asked,

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<v Speaker 1>first thing I asked, is he the guy? Is he

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<v Speaker 1>the longest on death row that we have in the country.

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<v Speaker 1>Not quite, But it's just it's remarkable, Robes that we

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<v Speaker 1>could keep somebody in prison for fifty years planning to

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<v Speaker 1>execute them.

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<v Speaker 2>He had a long runway more almost a dozen appeals

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<v Speaker 2>that went through that this family has lived through for

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<v Speaker 2>the past five fifty years.

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<v Speaker 1>Again, we don't want to obviously, we never want to

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<v Speaker 1>get it wrong. But I mean, what's the point of

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<v Speaker 1>having it. He's fifty fifty, he's seventy. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if you've seen a picture or one had no kind

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<v Speaker 1>of shape or health he's.

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<v Speaker 3>In that It doesn't look great. Doesn't look great.

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<v Speaker 1>Execute a seventy year old guy for something he did

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<v Speaker 1>fifty years ago. Lord knows, he's not the same person,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is the punishment he's supposed to have that

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<v Speaker 1>we've told for what he did. But man, those two

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<v Speaker 1>individuals are I would guess different people. We're about to

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<v Speaker 1>execute a seventy year old guy. I'm sorry, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>think to go with this. Well, I just think how separate,

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<v Speaker 1>how separated those two individuals are, that twenty year old

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<v Speaker 1>guy and that seventy year old guy we're about to

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<v Speaker 1>execute tomorrow night.

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<v Speaker 2>I know it doesn't make any sense if you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to have the death penalty. Yes, you obviously have to

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<v Speaker 2>have some appeals process, but what has happened and what

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<v Speaker 2>has been happening in this country is just unfair to

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<v Speaker 2>the family members who have an expectation that they'll finally

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<v Speaker 2>be able to have some peace and put this behind them,

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<v Speaker 2>not having to go to court trials and court hearings

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<v Speaker 2>and wonder what's going to happen for five decades.

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<v Speaker 3>So when we come back, we are going to tell you.

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<v Speaker 2>What Cindy's family is saying now to finally, finally reaching

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<v Speaker 2>execution day and the welcome back everyone to this episode of

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<v Speaker 2>Amy and TJ, where we are talking about the long

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<v Speaker 2>awaited execution of now seventy year old James Ernest Hitchcock.

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<v Speaker 2>He was twenty years old when he committed this horrific

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<v Speaker 2>act of raping and murdering his thirteen year old step niece,

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<v Speaker 2>Cynthia Cindy Driggers, and now it's pretty remarkable. After being

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<v Speaker 2>sentenced and re sentenced to death four separate times, nearly

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<v Speaker 2>a dozen appeals, and five decades later, he will finally

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<v Speaker 2>be executed tomorrow night by lethal ejection at six pm

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<v Speaker 2>Eastern time in Florida. And even despite the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>all those years have passed, more than a dozen of

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<v Speaker 2>Cindy's relatives say they plan to witness his execution.

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<v Speaker 1>Well because this has been their life. This is for

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<v Speaker 1>so many of them rooms they were kid and her

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<v Speaker 1>cousins we were talking about robes. This has been their

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<v Speaker 1>entire life. This trauma of losing this child in their family,

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<v Speaker 1>this has been with their whole life. They went, okay, trial,

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<v Speaker 1>death sentence, here's the first death sentence date. Okay, that

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<v Speaker 1>one didn't work out. It's been on and own. I

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<v Speaker 1>bet you and I sometimes with the business we work in,

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<v Speaker 1>we see our lives through contracts. Three years, two year deal,

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<v Speaker 1>four year deal. They can see their entire many of

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<v Speaker 1>them their adulthood by trial, first appeal, second sentence, like

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<v Speaker 1>it's set up for their life.

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<v Speaker 3>This is awful for them, it really is.

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<v Speaker 1>This is their entire life.

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<v Speaker 2>And she was the oldest of five kids, so she

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<v Speaker 2>has brothers and sisters who she never really got to

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<v Speaker 2>know or didn't have the opportunity to actually really grow

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<v Speaker 2>up with them. And so it makes sense that that

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<v Speaker 2>many family members are showing up to finally see this

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<v Speaker 2>day arrive. Her mom, Helen I mentioned she's eighty one

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<v Speaker 2>years old. Her quote, she was just interviewed by the

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<v Speaker 2>local press there and she said, I'm not joyful, but

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<v Speaker 2>I really really hope it does happen this time. But

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<v Speaker 2>we've been down this road before. I hope and pray

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<v Speaker 2>that now is the time. And then Cindy's cousin said this,

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<v Speaker 2>and this speaks to what our justice system has done

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<v Speaker 2>to these.

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<v Speaker 3>Families by waiting all of this time.

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<v Speaker 2>She said, my anger is about what this has done

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<v Speaker 2>to my family and what this has put them through.

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<v Speaker 2>When you go to the court time after time and

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<v Speaker 2>you see a public defender put her arm around him

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<v Speaker 2>in court, that will set your anger thermometer way up there.

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<v Speaker 2>Like all those little interactions, any sympathy this man might

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<v Speaker 2>have received by his attorneys, you don't even like. They're

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<v Speaker 2>watching and they're looking and they're seething, and they've had

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<v Speaker 2>to live through it over and over and over again.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it. I find that incredible that they're all going

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<v Speaker 1>to be there, that it's still important for them to

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<v Speaker 1>show up. They have shown up for this little girl

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<v Speaker 1>for fifty years and they keep showing up. That's that's incredible,

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<v Speaker 1>and that many of them were after fifty years, they

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<v Speaker 1>still it's important to do it. I applaud this family.

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<v Speaker 2>It is going to be quite the scene there in Florida,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was very clear that obviously his death doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>bring Cindy back, and it doesn't bring them any joy

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<v Speaker 2>as they expressed, but it does for this family and

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<v Speaker 2>it will bring them peace, and that is the very

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<v Speaker 2>least they deserve after everything have been through.

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<v Speaker 3>We will, of course keep.

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<v Speaker 2>Our eye on all that is going on in Florida

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<v Speaker 2>and in Texas because yes, there is another execution set

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<v Speaker 2>for April thirtieth in Texas, So keep checking out this

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<v Speaker 2>feed because there will be another episode about.

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<v Speaker 3>The second execution of the night.

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<v Speaker 2>This year's already getting off to a heck of a

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<v Speaker 2>start when it comes to execution, so we will stay

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<v Speaker 2>on top of it all. We always appreciate you listening

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<v Speaker 2>to us everyone. I'm Amy roboch alongside TJ.

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<v Speaker 3>Holmes. We will talk to you soon.