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Speaker 2: That's what the game's all about.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Action Network Podcast NBA Playoff Edition, Conference

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Speaker 1: Finals Edition. We have finally reached the conference finals. The

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Speaker 1: NBA Finals begin in two weeks and we'll be bringing

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Speaker 1: as Suns Clippers began yesterday and Sixers Hawks begins tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: the red Hot Brandon Anderson and I am just going

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Speaker 1: to open the floor and let Raheem Palmer do a

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Speaker 1: victory lap for his weekend because Raheem had himself a weekend.

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Speaker 1: I'm stupid, you're smart.

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Speaker 4: I was wrong.

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Speaker 1: You were write You're the best, I'm the worst. You're

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Speaker 1: very good looking.

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Speaker 5: I'm not attractive, all right, as long as you're willing

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Speaker 5: to admit that. So I had the Clippers on Friday.

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Speaker 5: I took the Clippers for big money on Friday, and

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Speaker 5: I woke up Saturday. I think we had spaces on

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Speaker 5: Friday night, I said, I'm gonna put on the profits

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Speaker 3: So I took the Bucks.

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Speaker 5: But you know, speaking of Brandon Anderson on on Saturday morning,

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Speaker 5: I'm like, I want to go to Game seven. So

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Speaker 5: I end up buying a court sized seat to Game

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Speaker 5: seven of Nets and Bucks. I'm sitting right behind Travis

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Speaker 5: Scott and Emmanuel Sanders, and I mean, it's one of

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Speaker 5: the greatest games I've ever been to. I had the

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Speaker 5: Bucks plus one ninety five to win the series. I

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Speaker 5: had a money live for big money. And then you know,

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Speaker 5: I drive back to Philly and I pass out, and

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Speaker 5: I wake up in the morning and I say, you

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Speaker 5: know what, I want to go to Game seven again.

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Speaker 5: So I went to Game seven, six Ers versus Hawks.

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Speaker 5: I wanted to see the Sixers get to win. Unfortunately

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Speaker 5: it didn't happen. And about at halftime I fired on

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Speaker 3: So I had a great weekend. I cannot complain.

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Speaker 1: Meanwhile, on the other side of the victory, Lap duckets

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Speaker 1: Brandon Anderson. I'm going over this from his tweet on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: He bet Clippers Bucks on a parlay at plus eleven

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Speaker 1: twenty four. He hit the Bucks ultimate line for Game

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Speaker 1: six and plus one eighty. He hit the Bucks series

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Speaker 1: of plus one eighty five. He bet the Clippers game

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Speaker 1: six live at plus three twelve. He hit Hawks in

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Speaker 1: Game seven at plus two point fifty. He still got

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Speaker 1: Clippers Bucks fine at plus four thousand, and he's got

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Speaker 1: been a week, not a bad one for Brandon either.

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Speaker 2: It's been fun. Guys. I didn't even fit in there.

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Speaker 2: I still got Suns plus five hundred to win the West,

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Speaker 2: and I've got Chris Paul at eleven hundred Finals MVP,

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Speaker 2: so we've got a lot of good options out there.

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Speaker 2: I think I've got a seven hundred on the Bucks

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Speaker 2: to win the championship too, So you know, you put

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the game. The same for me because my

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Speaker 1: June's second way, way way back on June second, a

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Speaker 1: whole nineteen days ago, I bet Bucks Sun's Finals. Mato.

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Speaker 2: I thought, you're gonna say, in June second, you bet

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Speaker 1: We'll get there, We'll get there, We'll get it there.

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Speaker 1: So I may have dabbled, just dabbled on Hawks. Wow,

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Speaker 1: Game seven of Clippers Hawks or Hawk Sixers. First, the

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Speaker 1: Game seven that was at everyone's killing Ben rightfully, so

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Speaker 5: I mean, did did Joel nbat ever like Vin Simmons, Like,

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Speaker 5: I mean, like I look at it like this, Jimmy

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you just can't do that. Like this thing

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Speaker 1: and like that's just not the moment to do that.

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Speaker 1: I will also note that Joel and Bi got stripped

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Speaker 1: So maybe Joel should handle his own shit in house

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Speaker 3: That's a that's a that's a very stupid question. That's

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Speaker 3: no issue. We good, We just damn wain.

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Speaker 2: So what do you guys think that they on the jump.

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Speaker 2: They like to do like divide up the blame pie.

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Speaker 2: So I was trying to think this through of Okay,

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Speaker 2: if you got one hundred percent of blame to spread

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Speaker 2: here's here's my pie. I'll give you my percentages and

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Speaker 2: you guys can push back. So I got forty percent

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Speaker 2: I got twenty percent just to health if Joel and

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Speaker 2: I think that they just win this pretty easily. And

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Speaker 2: then Doc ten percent and Joel five percent. I'm sort

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Speaker 2: of feeling like I went low on Joel. But what

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Speaker 2: do you guys think about those fifty percent?

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Speaker 3: Benjamin?

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Speaker 1: This is too much? What Okay, we're thinking about this wrong. Okay,

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Speaker 1: we're thinking about this whole thing wrong.

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Speaker 1: I wrote a big thing about what makes good playoff teams. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and the two things that were most important was you

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Speaker 1: gotta have guys that could make jump shots off the

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Speaker 1: versatile defense. The Sixers do not have a versatile defense,

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Speaker 1: which is why Trey Young in all these runs got

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Speaker 1: build around Joel and Beads. You had Seth Curry, who's

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Speaker 1: say this, if you could switch pick and roll these

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Speaker 1: and the numbers with Joel are great, But if you're

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Speaker 1: will say that, I think more I would put for Doc.

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Speaker 1: You've got like when Brandon I had I had missed

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Speaker 1: this one on Doc. When Brandon let me know last

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Speaker 1: That is damning.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like then, yeah, damning.

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Speaker 1: I mean, rehiem you like you've you've mentioned it, like

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Speaker 1: home teams win those games seven seventy percent of the time.

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Speaker 1: It's almost like since twenty ten, home teams win game

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Speaker 1: seven seventy percent of the time and the other thirty

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Speaker 1: I think Morey came in late to the process, right,

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Speaker 1: say this. There's a lot of ways in which I

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Speaker 1: think Ben Simmons, Like I, if Ben Simmons goes to Portland,

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Speaker 1: I'm probably picking them to win the division next year.

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Speaker 1: Like he's still a really good player. He had a

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Speaker 1: like this like nice kind of counterpoint of like MB

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Speaker 1: the this is Joel Embiid's team, and we're doing everything

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Speaker 1: the Eastern Conference. So you can't say it didn't work.

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Speaker 1: Lostevin at Hall to the Hawks.

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Speaker 2: So here's my question with Ben Simmons. If this is

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Speaker 2: who are the sort of players you want around that team.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying there isn't that just like, what are

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Speaker 1: Chris Middleton, Drew Holliday, Brook Lopez, PJ.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so just the honest plan. Yeah, clearly worse than

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Speaker 2: Yannis though by a lot. Okay, how talent okay, but

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Speaker 2: like what, you know what I disagree with that athleticism.

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Speaker 1: Athleticism You don't think Ben Simmons is that as athletics

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Speaker 2: I don't see him like taking one dribble from the

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Speaker 3: He doesn't have Gianis's wing span. He doesn't have gianics

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Speaker 1: Right, he's not as big. I'll admit that he's not

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Speaker 1: as big. He's not as big, but he's also more

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Speaker 2: He also like a pretty great shooter next to Ben.

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Speaker 5: I was I was watching Ben's Summer League performances last night,

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Speaker 3: No, I'm like, I'm dead serious.

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Speaker 5: Like I mean, he's literally out there taking mid range jumpers,

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Speaker 5: So I have a lot of questions.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Markel Folls looks broken, goes to Orlando, looks much better.

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Speaker 1: Ben Simmons looks broken. Is Joel Ebid the toxic? That's

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Speaker 1: my that's my hot tache? Is is Joelle and be toxic?

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Speaker 1: I don't think Joel and b is toxic? I think

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Speaker 1: that the Sixers organization. Let me ask you, terrible. Let

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Speaker 1: me ask you, though, who who loves playing with Joel?

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Speaker 1: Who has been? Who has been? Like? May I love

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Speaker 3: Jimmy Jimmy Butler?

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Speaker 1: Right is Jimmy Butler known to be the guy that like.

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Speaker 3: Is all like like?

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Speaker 2: I wasn't saying that to refute the point the squarely

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Speaker 1: No, but here's the I don't even think that.

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 1: Here's the Simmons has to go one in two ways.

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Speaker 1: He either has to be built around like Giannis and

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Speaker 1: after this these playoffs, that's never gonna happen, Like he's

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Speaker 1: it is Ben Simmons an NBA player And I'm like, guys,

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Speaker 1: don't I think that he's going to be a number

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Speaker 1: Robert Covington in pieces for Simmons and pick one of

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Speaker 1: MAXI r tyble Okay, Portland, if you give Dame Ben

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Speaker 1: Simmons to run pick and roll with. Before Simmons was drafted,

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Speaker 1: I wrote like a I wrote like a fifteen piece

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Speaker 1: Simmons should go number one because we're just watching what

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Speaker 1: Draymond Green can do. Imagine Ben Simmons is like a

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. I tried to come up with some trade ideas,

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Speaker 1: There's one floating right now that is like not floating

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's interesting. I don't know. I don't think Golden

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Speaker 2: just because of I don't know. I guess maybe maybe

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Speaker 2: I'm brand loyalty. They they they've just gone through so

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Speaker 1: To lose their owner.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, but you know what that I can see,

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Speaker 5: I can see, I can see don't running the gang

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Speaker 1: First, First, we can't get out of this. Let's give

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Speaker 1: to the motherfucking Hawks. Like, holy shit, Okay, so like

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Speaker 1: Tree Young burns MSG to the ground, goes to Philly

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Speaker 1: and runs them, gets them boot off their home court

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Speaker 1: after a game in which he didn't even play well,

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Speaker 1: Kevin a Herder annihilate Seth Curry in the last three games.

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Speaker 3: Again, that was that was brutal Nate.

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Speaker 1: McMillan, who honestly has not been a great playoffs coach.

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Speaker 1: Like there's just been a lot of series where you

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Speaker 1: He was awesome in the series, pushed all the right buttons,

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Speaker 1: made the adjustments. A lot of this really was the

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Speaker 1: Sixers melting down the twenty six point lead in Game

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Speaker 1: five the way that they just like fell apart in

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Speaker 1: Game seven. Again, Doc rivers, but the Hawks deserve a

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Speaker 1: ton of credit for just like keeping with it, staying

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Speaker 1: with it. Bogdanovich has a bad knee and they still

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Speaker 2: Yeah, trade shot like four for seven hundred and they

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Speaker 1: On this podcast, we said that the Hawks were live,

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Speaker 1: but none of us really believe they could win the series.

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Speaker 1: Like we all were like, yeah, then plus two and

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Speaker 5: They just try there that trade three with like two

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Speaker 5: Hold, Like it was so crazy because it felt like

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Speaker 5: Trey and it looked like they were supposed to switch,

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Speaker 5: Like I saw it happening, and I'm like, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: Just immense respect for the Hawks, who now at bet MGM,

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Speaker 1: obviously like the longest odds to win in the NBA,

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Speaker 1: like that they've got to be the biggest dogs remaining

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Speaker 1: just based off of like reasonable projections, but they are

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Speaker 1: We'll get to their serious price versus the Bucks in

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Speaker 1: a minute. So let's transition and the Milwaukee Bucks. Who

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Speaker 1: did it? They beat the Nets, They beat Kevin Durant.

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Speaker 1: My big takeaway is largely, look, the Nets didn't have

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Speaker 1: Harden was on one leg. There's a lot of ways

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Speaker 1: That to me is kind of like the lesson. And

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Speaker 1: And I'm really curious to see if the Hawks do this.

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Speaker 1: But the Nets don't have to feel bad about anything.

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Speaker 1: They'll just run it back. But the Bucks, I thought,

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Speaker 2: Brandon, Yeah, I agree, I don't. I don't think that

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Speaker 2: will always remember, I hope. But the Bucks did it.

434
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Speaker 2: And I think we talked a while back, like earlier

435
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Speaker 2: in the season, and did the Bucks have the the

436
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:05,440
Speaker 2: championship season like or did they have did they have

437
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 2: that extra gear? And I made the analogy that I

438
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,199
Speaker 2: thought that this team kind of reminded me of like

439
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:17,000
Speaker 2: a version of Pop Spurs where and and Bud to

440
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,479
Speaker 2: pop similarly. Obviously it's from the same coaching tree, like

441
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,440
Speaker 2: where there are there are some obvious shortcomings, but there's

442
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,960
Speaker 2: this very high floor, like that's what we've seen for

443
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,960
Speaker 2: three years now. There's a very high floor of what

444
00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 2: they have been from the regular season. We know all

445
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,040
Speaker 2: the things that like because they're a Bud team, they

446
00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,919
Speaker 2: don't follow, they don't turn the ball over. We know

447
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 2: that they play tough defense. We know they hit a

448
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 2: lot of shots. And like with the Spurs, like the

449
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 2: thing the thing with gambling us just want a lot

450
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 2: of chances. You know, we talked about that earlier of

451
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,600
Speaker 2: like you get a lot of shots and eventually you're

452
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,680
Speaker 2: gonna have a few winning tickets left at the end

453
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 2: and like with the Spurs, without taking anything away from them,

454
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 2: they just kept getting back. They kept getting to the

455
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,439
Speaker 2: final eight, the final four, year after year after year

456
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,680
Speaker 2: after year. And when you do that, eventually you're gonna

457
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,360
Speaker 2: catch the breaks. Eventually you're gonna play one of those

458
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 2: teams with their star is missing, or you're gonna see

459
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 2: the one seed upset in front of you instead of

460
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,199
Speaker 2: you being the upset one seed. Without anything away from

461
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 2: how great those Spurs were or or what the Bucks

462
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 2: just accomplished, it just sort of feels like that's kind

463
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 2: of what's happening, like things are breaking a little bit

464
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 2: their way. You know, they were down oh two without

465
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 2: one of those nets stars, like they were getting a

466
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,120
Speaker 2: run for the beginning of that series. I don't think

467
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 2: any of us really thought that that things were gonna

468
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 2: flip at that point. I don't know what the adjustment was.

469
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 2: The adjustment was. They grinded out an ugly, ugly game

470
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 2: three win and in an insult to rock fights, and

471
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 2: I remember Raheem and I talking then that like, you

472
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,439
Speaker 2: never know, it doesn't look good for them, but you

473
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 2: never know what one win might do just to keep

474
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 2: things alive. You never know what just staying alive can do.

475
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 2: And then the very next game, Kyrie gets hurt and

476
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 2: they want other game, and boy they needed it. They

477
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 2: needed all those breaks just to get there. Doesn't matter though,

478
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 2: if you get to the end, it doesn't matter that

479
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 2: you play the Hawks instead of the Sixers, doesn't matter

480
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 2: that you played Mike James instead of James Harden. It

481
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 2: doesn't matter. You get the banner, you had the banner.

482
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,639
Speaker 2: That's it. You're the champions. There's no asterisk, there's no

483
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,239
Speaker 2: anything else. You beat the teams that you played, and

484
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 2: the Bucks are in a great spot now to be

485
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 2: able to do that.

486
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, nobody takes away the Raptors championship because

487
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,679
Speaker 1: they face the Warriors without Katie and Clay right like

488
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:37,159
Speaker 1: you play who's in front of you? Rahim, Are you

489
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 1: more less same? Impressed with the Bucks after the series?

490
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 5: I'm impressed. I mean they pulled it out. I mean

491
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 5: it was just KD had an all time great series.

492
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 5: I just you know, there were various parts and also

493
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 5: here's the thing, they missed their freak those down a

494
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,920
Speaker 5: stretch and they probably should have won the game in regulation.

495
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 5: But to have the resolve to actually come back from

496
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,159
Speaker 5: that and then you know, there was a sequence in

497
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 5: overtime where the Nets got four offensive rebounds and they

498
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 5: didn't score on one of them.

499
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 3: And you know, brook Lopez was big.

500
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,160
Speaker 5: He had the clutch block on KD when KD could

501
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 5: have put it put the put the game up four,

502
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 5: and it just felt like if the Nets had scored

503
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 5: one other basket, you know, they're at four, there's no

504
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 5: way the Bucks are gonna catch it, you know. And

505
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 5: you know Giannis, he actually put his head down and

506
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,199
Speaker 5: he got that tough basket with one minute to go

507
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 5: on KD. You know, Chris Middleton hit tough shots. Drew

508
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 5: he played poorly for most of the game, but he

509
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 5: hit tough shots. So to me, I'm just you know,

510
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,639
Speaker 5: I talk a lot about the resiliency and the linear

511
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,919
Speaker 5: effect of going through so much pain. You see it

512
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 5: with the Bulls, You saw it with you know, the Warriors.

513
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 5: They lost a couple of series before they finally cut through.

514
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 5: And I feel like this is that this is the

515
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,919
Speaker 5: time for the Bucks where they finally cut through. And

516
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 5: I hate to, you know, bring up these narrative like

517
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 5: aspects of things, but I think that matters. And I

518
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 5: think the psychology of just going through pain like we've all.

519
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:07,120
Speaker 3: We've all.

520
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 5: I know, I've gone through pain in my life, like

521
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 5: I've spoken about it, you know on my timeline. I

522
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 5: used to been ten hours a game on basketball games.

523
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,239
Speaker 5: I struggled, I've gone broke. I've gone through all these

524
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,719
Speaker 5: different things and I finally have cut through. So when

525
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 5: I see teams do that, that's something I like to

526
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 5: bet one.

527
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 3: So I put a lot of stock in it to it.

528
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's real, Like you can make all the statistical

529
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 2: arguments you want against that, but we all have experienced

530
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 2: that feeling and what it feels like to get that

531
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 2: breakthrough and what it feels like. You know, they just

532
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 2: did this against the title favorite Nets and don't forget

533
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,640
Speaker 2: against the Heat, the team that knocked them out last year,

534
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 2: like the team that they were haunted by waiting for

535
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 2: all year. Like those two huge psychological blocks to get past.

536
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 2: I think, you know, it's it's ludicrous to think that

537
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,199
Speaker 2: as a player on the court, that that didn't mean

538
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 2: anything to you. We all have experienced that before.

539
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 1: Let's get into some actual betting here. Bucks take on Hawks.

540
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 1: Bucks are minus five one hundred, which is by far

541
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 1: the heaviest price that I've seen out there at bet MGM,

542
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 1: the officialized provider of the Action Network podcast, Hawks are

543
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:15,439
Speaker 1: plus three seventy five to win the series. The spread

544
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: on wins in this series, you've got Bucks minus two

545
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 1: and a half is plus one ten minus one and

546
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,880
Speaker 1: a half is plus two. Two is minus two twenty five.

547
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: Hawks plus two and a half is minus one thirty

548
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 1: and Hawks plus one and a half is plus one

549
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 1: eighty five. They're basically they they like Bucks and six

550
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 1: is what the numbers are are telling you. The exact

551
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 1: series results is you can get by the way, they

552
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 1: open up a new odd set at bet MGM on

553
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 1: these props, which is you can get two results. So

554
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 1: you can get Bucks four to oho or four to

555
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 1: one at plus one ten, Bucks four to two, or

556
00:27:55,320 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: four to three. Specifically, at plus one fifty, you've got Bucks.

557
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 1: Four to two is plus three point fifty. Bucks four

558
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: to one is plus two thirty Hawks, and seven is

559
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,679
Speaker 1: plus eleven hundred Hawks, and six is plus eleven hundred.

560
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 1: I don't want to overreact, and that's always tough, right.

561
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: I think this matchup's kind of interesting to me in

562
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: that the Hawks have all these shot makers, right. The

563
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 1: Bucks are gonna want to play Brook again. They've made

564
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 1: playing Brook Lopez work into their two playoff series. They

565
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: have not nobody has played Brooke off the floor. The

566
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 1: Hawks are gonna probably be able to get a lot

567
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 1: to that same love mechanism that they got versus the

568
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: Bucks or versus the Sixers, like they're gonna be able

569
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: to get to that again because they're still gonna have

570
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: to play drop. You have to step up a little bit,

571
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: and that leaves a week side open. The Bucks week

572
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 1: side protection is a little bit better defensively, I think

573
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: is kind of the concern. The Hawks can switch though,

574
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: like Capella, that's the whole thing with him in Houston

575
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 1: is that one of the reasons he was viable for

576
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,479
Speaker 1: them was because he could switch. So I wonder if

577
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: they're just gonna switch everything one five pick and roll.

578
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: The problem I think then is what they'll the Bucks

579
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,239
Speaker 1: will do is they'll just run different sets of pick

580
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 1: and roll, like they'll use Middleton as a screener or

581
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 1: use Middleton in the screen role with Giannis, and that's

582
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 1: going to create I think a lot of matchup problems.

583
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: Like it was one thing when you're trying to face

584
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: embiid when you know you can double and bring help

585
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,959
Speaker 1: because he's gonna telegraph it. The Bucks, it's all movement based.

586
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 1: It's all everything is like slicing to the to the

587
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 1: rim and actions and then kickouts. There's two ways as goes.

588
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 1: The Bucks think that they've won, they've gotten it, like

589
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: they were so happy to win that Net series, which

590
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 1: they should be, and they let their guard down, and

591
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: the Hawks sneak into this thing and do the same

592
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: thing to them versus the two teams that underestimated them before,

593
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: or the Bucks are in that other zone where they're

594
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: just like, nope, we beat the Heat and the and

595
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 1: the Nets. We are no one's no one's beating us. Now,

596
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: what are your initial thoughts in this series?

597
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 5: So when I look at this, when I saw the line,

598
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,959
Speaker 5: I thought that the line was a little too heavy.

599
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 5: I mean, my model personally makes this game five first,

600
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 5: like yes, like Bucks minus five four and a half

601
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 5: or something like that.

602
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 3: So I think seven is just really really high.

603
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 1: But I think I grabbed an eight. I'll say I

604
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: grabbed an eight last night.

605
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 5: I think the loss of DeAndre Hunter is really really

606
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 5: big for the series. I just don't know how they

607
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 5: guard Chris Middleton. I think Middleton can have a really

608
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 5: big series. I think he could have the series that

609
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 5: I thought Tobias Harris.

610
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 3: Would have and didn't have.

611
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 5: So, I mean, obviously the Bucks are favorite, but I

612
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 5: just I kind of don't know how to approach it

613
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 5: from a vetting standpoint as of right now. And then

614
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 5: I can't even really play my game seventh angle because

615
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 5: both of these two teams are coming off of a

616
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 5: Game seven, So that's a little frustrating for me.

617
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 1: That was my only concern was that the Bucks have

618
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: another extra day, right, and so the Hawks are on

619
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: short turn round coming off the Game seven. But when

620
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: I just it's just too much, man, Like, that is

621
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 1: just too much. This Hawks team has been like what

622
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 1: the line basically has told us book for the series

623
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: and for Game one is the books are basically like

624
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: this was more about Philly imploding than it was about

625
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 1: the Hawks, which makes sense because statistically the Sixers dominated

626
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: them like this. Again, the Sixers losing that series is

627
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: embarrassing because they were so dominant when they weren't imploding,

628
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: and that I think has caused it. Now it takes

629
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: two to tango, but that's definitely what the books are

630
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: saying is they're just like, look, we're still not convinced

631
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: by this Hawks team. Like they beat the Knicks, all right, fine,

632
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: the Sixers imploded, We do not We think that that

633
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: series was more about the Sixers than it was about

634
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: the Hawks.

635
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 2: Brandon and I have a hard time disputing that. But

636
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,479
Speaker 2: you'd think that the books should look at the Bucks

637
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 2: series and wonder if that series was more about the

638
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 2: than the Bucks in some ways. Also, you know, like

639
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 2: that the Nets, you know, lost their guys, and and

640
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 2: like why can't you make that same argument and then

641
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 2: being the Bucks a little bit? So it's interesting to me.

642
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 2: So I've I really have believed in the Hawks this far.

643
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 2: I picked the Hawks in six last series. I picked

644
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 2: the Hawks to win Game seven when we got there.

645
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 2: I don't like this for Atlanta. I think we all

646
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 2: need to really appreciate how awesome Atlanta has been, and

647
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 2: how much fun Trey Young has been, and and how

648
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 2: great all the players have been. We need to think

649
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 2: about that a lot for the next day or two,

650
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 2: because I think that this is not going to go

651
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 2: so well for them. Here are the problems that I'm seeing.

652
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 2: Who's guarding Chris Middleton, Who's guarding Giannis. I don't know,

653
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 2: like I don't know, I don't know the answer to it.

654
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 2: Second problem, Drew Holliday, I'm Tree Young. It's not gonna

655
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 2: be fun for him like Trey is. I think Drew

656
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 2: is a much better sort of defender, like Trey struggled

657
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 2: at times with Ben Simmons or with Matisse Tibo last round. Yeah,

658
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 2: I think because of the size, Drew's not the same size.

659
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 2: But I like Holiday, like his quickness and his ability

660
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 2: laterally and being able to stick with them at the

661
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 2: point of attack. Like we're worried about the Brook Lopez

662
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 2: drop issue. But if Holiday is better at keeping Tray

663
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 2: out of the paint and from attacking as much with it,

664
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 2: I think he's going to be like I think Trey Young.

665
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 2: You know we've seen, like look at just Game seven whatever,

666
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 2: Trey shot like four or five out of a million.

667
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 2: I think we're gonna get some of those games this series.

668
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 2: Like Tray can put up some real clunker lines when

669
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 2: the shots aren't falling, and I think Holiday is going

670
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 2: to force him into some of those games. Another thing

671
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 2: we know that Bud teams don't file. They never file,

672
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 2: they don't send opponents to the free throw line. The

673
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 2: Hawks rely really heavily on free throws, and the Sixers

674
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 2: followed them a lot. They got a lot of free

675
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 2: throws on a lot of easy points, and the Bucks

676
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 2: are not going to do that. The Hawks rely on

677
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 2: free throws, and they rely on a big offensive rebounding

678
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 2: advantage that that they even had against the Sixers at

679
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,959
Speaker 2: times like that. The Bucks aren't going to allow those advantages.

680
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 2: So I just I'm trying to figure out how do

681
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 2: the Bucks lose the series? And I think that the

682
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 2: best answer and come up with is that they they

683
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 2: just still can't get the offense going right. You know,

684
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 2: we just saw them stuck in mud whole series, even

685
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 2: against the Nets, who are supposed to be this awful defense.

686
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 2: And I don't think that the Hawks are a great

687
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 2: defense either, But but maybe the Bucks offense just as

688
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 2: broken still, Maybe Bud just doesn't have answers still, that

689
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 2: would be the way I think. But I think we're

690
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 2: going towards like like I'll be looking at that that

691
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 2: Bucks in four or five sort of bet like that's

692
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 2: I don't think this is a long series.

693
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 5: And it also we forget Bogdanovic is hurt, so that's

694
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:54,760
Speaker 5: that's a huge one.

695
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the bog Gun Bowl, by the way.

696
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 2: Remember remember way back at the start of the reagency

697
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 2: when the bogdan was supposed to be coming to Milwaukee. Yeah,

698
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 2: and like who could have ever imagined that when that

699
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 2: fell through that this is where we were heading to

700
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 2: the Eastern Conference finals. Like, if Bogdon doesn't play, they

701
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 2: should put him in a cage over top of the arena,

702
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 2: and it's like suspend him and whoever wins the series

703
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 2: gets bogged on, they get to keep him going forward.

704
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: I don't think we could do that, Brandon.

705
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,720
Speaker 3: I do not think that. That's probably be like, oh

706
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 3: my god.

707
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 1: But what I do think is I think Bogdanovic. You know,

708
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: there's a lot of there's a lot of rumors about

709
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,760
Speaker 1: how that went down in NBA's circles. Can you imagine

710
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: this Bucks team with Bogdanovich.

711
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 2: Oh man, he'd be so perfect for them.

712
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: Well, I'll say this too, it'd be perfect for Bogdanovic.

713
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 1: Like he's been awesome with the Hawks, right, Like this

714
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 1: run is great, He's been awesome. He's been he has

715
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 1: been a revelation to me, Like I knew he was good.

716
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 1: He was awesome in these playoffs. But if we look

717
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: at it, let's look at the I am kind of

718
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 1: coming around to this, so like I've waffled between the

719
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 1: Hawks are live and the Bucks are going to dominate,

720
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 1: and I think I'm turning the other way towards Bucks

721
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 1: are going to dominate, and there might be value on

722
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: Bucks minus two and a half in winspread at plus

723
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: one ten. So we've got the DeAndre Hunter injury. Bogdanovich

724
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 1: is in one hundred percent. The Bucks have the best

725
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 1: defense in the playoffs right now, averaging one oh two

726
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: point eight. Like they will grind these games down a

727
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: little bit, which is interesting because they're like the transition team.

728
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: But that's also the other thing. The Hawks have not

729
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: faced a team that can really challenge them and transition

730
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,479
Speaker 1: yet because the athleticism gap is pretty considerable. The Knicks

731
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: just couldn't do it, and the Sixers are not built

732
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,839
Speaker 1: that way. Like they're just not a good transition team.

733
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: That's been a complaint about this team all year is

734
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: that they are not a good transition team. Again, Ben

735
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 1: Simmons being deemphasized. So if the Bucks get out and

736
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: they get some easy buckets like that's going to help

737
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: out the offense and kind of boost it up a

738
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: little bit. You know, it'll be interesting to see what

739
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: the matchups are going to be. Let's take the starting lineups.

740
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 1: I would imagine they guard Giannis with Capella.

741
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so, yeah.

742
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 1: Right, and then you just put who's starting at four

743
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: for them, Collins. You put Collins on Tucker and have

744
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: him help off and then you put the questions where

745
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: you hide Tray, you hide Trey on Connaton. I guess early,

746
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,399
Speaker 1: but then the soll here's the problem with the starters though,

747
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: I'll say this, the Bucks as the series went on,

748
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 1: started going to Brook Lopez more and more inside, like

749
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 1: they got they got Brooke involved. He hit threes, but

750
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 1: he also hit some post up shots and like some

751
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: off screen layups. The problem is, if you put Capella

752
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: on Giannis, Collins has to guard Actually, he's got to

753
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: guard Brook and he can't do that. So Capella is

754
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,479
Speaker 1: gonna have to guard Brook, which means Collins is gonna

755
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 1: have to guard Giannis. And I really like Collins, but

756
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:50,399
Speaker 1: he's just overmatched there.

757
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, fo trouble now Danilo Gallinari coming in to

758
00:37:56,000 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 2: try to guard Giannis yeah, Like, and I still I'm

759
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 2: the other end too, Like I think the Sixers had

760
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,320
Speaker 2: no way to play Gallinari off the court. The Bucks

761
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 2: have ways to play Gallinari's defense off the court, like

762
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 2: with Drew and Chris or Jan like whoever's over there.

763
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 2: The Box have options to play those guys off the court.

764
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 5: And we still don't even addressed We didn't even address

765
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 5: where Trey is gonna play, ye, like who he's gonna guard?

766
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 3: Like, what do you put him on?

767
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:21,439
Speaker 5: PJ?

768
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:27,760
Speaker 1: Tucker? No, you hide him on if it's that starting lineup.

769
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, because you said Conaton and it's not gonna be starting.

770
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

771
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, Drew's gonna get whatever he wants in the series.

772
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 1: You gotta play him on.

773
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 3: You have to.

774
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: You just have to play him on Drew and then

775
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 1: and then switch everything like that's just what you get.

776
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: And the question there, So that's an interesting question though,

777
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 1: Well the Bucks actually match up Hunt, because that's been

778
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,879
Speaker 1: a frustrating thing about the Bucks is they don't match

779
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: up Hunt. So what they should do, right, what the

780
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: Bucks should do, what is blatantly obvious is if they

781
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: put Drew on Chris, Drew and Chris should just run

782
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: pick and roll and get Trey matched up on Chris

783
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 1: Middleton every single time, and if they blitz, you've got

784
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: if they try and blitz it, which you can't with Trey,

785
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: if you try and blitz it, you've then got four

786
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 1: on three with Drew Holliday, Jannis and the two Bigs.

787
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: I honestly, I will say this. I wonder if if

788
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: the Bucks actually go back and bring Tucker off the

789
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: bench in this series.

790
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 4: Yeah.

791
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 2: I wondered that as well, because I don't know that

792
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 2: his role is so important, Like you're playing PJ Tucker

793
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 2: for his defense, and who does PG Tucker need to

794
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 2: defend on this team? Like I could see the spot

795
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 2: where PG Tucker needs to play center so that you

796
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 2: can switch and defend the Trey pick and roll and

797
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 2: the like Brook Lopez isn't working out. We need to

798
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,919
Speaker 2: get Tucker out there. I can see that. But when

799
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 2: do I need Tucker and Giannis and Lopez all on

800
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 2: the floor together.

801
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 1: I think here's the question. Here's the question. Though, If

802
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 1: you do that, Trey can hide on Connaton. Yeah, that

803
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 1: to me is the problem. Now you can say like, well,

804
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 1: Tray can just hide on Tucker, but Tucker's going to

805
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 1: kill him offensive rebounds in Yeah.

806
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 2: Another thing that I like for Milwaukee this series is,

807
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 2: you know we've seen we saw against the Nets both

808
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 2: teams just stopped playing their bench, like what in Game seven,

809
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,479
Speaker 2: I think that the entire benches combined in overtime too,

810
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 2: combined for five field goal attempts. Five attempts from the

811
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 2: entire bench from both sides. And like we knew that

812
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 2: from the Nets, especially because their bench was starting by

813
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 2: the end of the series. But I think that Milwaukee's

814
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 2: gonna be able to go back to the bench a

815
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 2: little bit. I think Bobby Portis can play in the

816
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 2: series because I don't think that Atlanta has the bench

817
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 2: options to like play him off the court. Again, I

818
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 2: think Brent Forbes is going to get some open shots

819
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 2: and start knocking some of those down, and we saw

820
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 2: what that looked like against Miami, and so I think

821
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 2: I think Milwaukee's bench, I mean, we've seen all year

822
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 2: that that's been a bit of a weak spots. It's thin.

823
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 2: But I think like offense, only guys like Portis and

824
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 2: Forbes I think actually can play and that can really

825
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 2: help Milwaukee's offense get moving a little bit too. And

826
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 2: and by in so doing at the honest those extra

827
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 2: couple of minutes that you know, like we've seen now

828
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 2: what it looks like. We finally got all the Bucks

829
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 2: minutes that we wanted, and the pace slowed down a

830
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 2: lot and the offense slowed down a lot. Maybe this

831
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 2: whole limiting minutes thing actually had a purpose. And if

832
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 2: they get back to getting some of these bench guys

833
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 2: at least, you know, a couple of minutes here and there,

834
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 2: maybe they get the Bucks are able to run and

835
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 2: play some higher energy ball with their stars too.

836
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, like I like, I like Porters versus Gallo.

837
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, like that matchup.

838
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 1: You know, so Bucks four oh or four to one

839
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: is plus one ten, which is interesting because Bucks minus

840
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:45,879
Speaker 1: two and a half is Yeah, that's also plus one ten.

841
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,800
Speaker 1: So that's probably gonna be my play after that for

842
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: this pot. I think I think I'm sold on the Bucks.

843
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: Like the injuries in particular, I think are an issue here.

844
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: Between Hunter and Bogdanovic got the sixers, loss of the

845
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 1: Hawk without Doandrey Hunter ges that was.

846
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 3: Just and Tobia's hands was eight of twenty four. He

847
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 3: couldn't buy a basket.

848
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: Not well, not only that, but like Trey Young, like

849
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 1: you lost a game seven without the Andre Hunter where

850
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 1: Trey Young shot five of twenty three. Good god, sixers

851
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: have some respect?

852
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 3: All right?

853
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 2: Wait? Wait, we got to talk about So I think

854
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 2: that beyond Bucks series think I think we all agree

855
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 2: that the Bucks are winning the series. I don't think

856
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 2: that's really shocking news to anyone listening to us right now.

857
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 2: But so if that's the case, we got one more

858
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:39,320
Speaker 2: series after that. So are the Bucks are the title

859
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 2: favorites right now? How much favorites are they?

860
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 1: Like?

861
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 2: Do you take Bucks versus the field? Because that's basically

862
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 2: the odds that we're being asked to take right now.

863
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 2: Bucks win the title is plus one ten at bet

864
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 2: MGM right now. I've seen it basically even odds plus

865
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,720
Speaker 2: one hundred at other books, So it's them versus the field.

866
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 2: I will say this, My interest is looking at finals

867
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 2: MVP because if the Bucks win the finals, it certainly

868
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 2: looks like Giannis should be the finals MVP. That would

869
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 2: be the very obvious selection. Right now at bet MGM

870
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 2: he's plus one forty five. So, on the one hand,

871
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 2: is it crazy to take the title odds when you

872
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 2: can just take the Yannis odds and get an extra

873
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 2: thirty five cents on your bet there. On the other hand,

874
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 2: if you shop around a little bit, I can see

875
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 2: Chris Middleton at plus twenty seven hundred finals MVP Drew

876
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 2: Holliday I've seen at plus thirty eight hundred. Is there

877
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 2: a scenario where the Bucks win the title and Yannis

878
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 2: isn't the finals MVP because those are some juicy odds.

879
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,359
Speaker 1: Yes, there's a there is a there's a definite chance

880
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 1: where Middleton gets it.

881
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 2: There's agree chance he just starts hitting his shots and scoring.

882
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 5: And I mean, if it's a long series and the

883
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 5: game comes down to the end, Middleton might hit the

884
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 5: game winner, Like I mean, he literally hit the game

885
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 5: winner against the Nets.

886
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. So so don't you agree?

887
00:43:58,120 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 1: Then?

888
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,439
Speaker 2: By extension that twenties having a hundred at some books

889
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 2: where it's where Middleton is at, and when the Bucks

890
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 2: are even odds to win the title, that's pretty interesting

891
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 2: to me.

892
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 1: I will say, Brandon, the one thing I would tell

893
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 1: you is you're you're very big on these finals MVP.

894
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 1: That's here's my concern, man. I don't want to go

895
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 1: in on any players right now because of the injury stuff. Yeah, yeah,

896
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,879
Speaker 1: that's my thing is like, because this is why I'm

897
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 1: like gonna hedge on the Hawks a little bit in

898
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: the series because I gotta be like I can't. I

899
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 1: just can't trust anybody stay healthy, like and it'sought about

900
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 1: their fault. It's just like this season is every this

901
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,320
Speaker 1: really is a battle of attrition, Like that's all the series.

902
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 1: The season has been. Like the Suns are mostly healthy

903
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: and they're there. Yeah, like they're the one team that

904
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:53,280
Speaker 1: hasn't had a major rotation player go down, well.

905
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 2: Until Chris Paul gets out of protocols.

906
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, but Chris doesn't.

907
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 1: Chris doesn't hurt, right, I will say, let's go that

908
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 1: series now. Yeah, I'll follow on this point. After Game one,

909
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: Adrian Wosenroowski on ESPN, I was listening to post game

910
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: while I was doing some writing, and he said, like,

911
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,879
Speaker 1: they will get Chris Paul back in this series. Yeah,

912
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 1: Which that leads me to believe that more than likely

913
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 1: he is a symptomatic that he tested positive and either

914
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: his symptoms are very light or he's a symptomatic, which

915
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: probably which is great news by the way. And if

916
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 1: if wolzen Rowski is saying like he's gonna be back,

917
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 1: like I'm I bet the Suns in the series. I'm

918
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 1: gonna bet them more as much as I'm I'm leveraged

919
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 1: on Bucks Suns like I. Game one, by the way,

920
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: was fantastic. It was one of the best playoff games

921
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 1: I think I've ever seen. It was so much fun

922
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 1: the entire way. It was just a It was a

923
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: great chess match. It was like Paul George was great,

924
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: Booker was amazing, Like every everybody played well. It was

925
00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 1: an awesome, awesome game. My big takeaway from Game one

926
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: is the same thing I've been saying about the Clippers

927
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 1: over and over and over again, which is everybody focused

928
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,879
Speaker 1: on They focus on things like Reggie Jackson or Paul

929
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 1: George or Kawhi Leonard or Marcus Morris even and here like,

930
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: here's the problem. It's their big rotation, that's the problem. Yeah,

931
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 1: because the the first eight minutes of that game, the

932
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:25,879
Speaker 1: Suns could have attacked their switch with going small more

933
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 1: and they didn't. They took jump shots, and then in

934
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,399
Speaker 1: the starter second stint at the end of the second quarter,

935
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 1: they finally realized like Ayden is open, Aiden has a mismatch,

936
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 1: and Aiden started to eat, and that put more pressure

937
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: on him, and so this is the problem is if

938
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 1: you go small, Aiden's going to destroy you. If you

939
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: go big and it's zubotch. Booker got to that short

940
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 1: range Mini every single time, Yeah, and was able to

941
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: hit it like Zoo can't cover him in space. So

942
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 1: that's why they had to try Cousins. And I actually

943
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 1: really liked the Cousins adjustment. I like playing Cousins versus

944
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 1: their small ball minutes and versus Zoo like. I liked

945
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 1: that matchup a lot. But the big key with with

946
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: Boogie is he cannot play when Devin Booker's on the court.

947
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 1: Lou got too loose with it and left him in

948
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 1: when the Suns put Booker back in, and that's when

949
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: it fell apart. If it's a high, if it's Booker

950
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 1: or CP three Booker, Boogie can't be on the floor.

951
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 1: They'll target him as much so Brandon. I just I

952
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 1: think the bigs are too much of a problem in

953
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 1: this series for a Clippers team. And I don't know

954
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 1: how Kawhi Leonard even getting back, if he were to

955
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: get back, helps with that.

956
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know that he helps with the big problem.

957
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 2: I one way. Some you know, when we see a

958
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 2: favorite and see that we think that they should dominate,

959
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 2: then my inclination is okay, So what other what stories

960
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 2: can I come up with for how did the underdog

961
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 2: come through here? And one possible way is that Don Rayton,

962
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 2: who is huge, Like I remember, Don Rayton is just

963
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 2: a massive, massive man, and especially against these small Clippers lineups,

964
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 2: is just should be able to do anything that he wants.

965
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 2: The problem is that Don to Rayton still plays passive

966
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 2: sometimes and he can't do that in the series because

967
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 2: you know, like you said, he should be able to

968
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 2: just dominate in there and put up twenty points easily,

969
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 2: especially once Chris Paul gets back and then you've got

970
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,800
Speaker 2: CP and Booker both just dropping off to him in

971
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 2: the paint. He should put up huge lines. But there

972
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,280
Speaker 2: are still games as great as he's been these playoffs,

973
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 2: and he has been awesome, and he's been way better

974
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 2: than I have ever given him credit for. He can

975
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 2: still go passive a little bit, and he can still

976
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 2: kind of have like hands of stone sometimes and like

977
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 2: he'll be right under the basket and you're like, bro,

978
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 2: you can just like reach up and dunk the ball

979
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 2: and he'll like pump fake and try reverse layup or something.

980
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:07,800
Speaker 2: And I do think while Chris Paul is out, like

981
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 2: if Aydon goes a little passive, if Booker doesn't go

982
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 2: super nova like he did, I do think that there

983
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 2: is a scenario where the Suns could struggle to score

984
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 2: a little bit. I don't I'm not saying that they

985
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 2: will for sure, but I think that that would be

986
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 2: the way that the Clippers hang around in the series

987
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 2: a little better. We know the Clippers can hit shots.

988
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 1: We know that.

989
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:29,359
Speaker 2: We know they can just get hot and start hitting

990
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 2: their shots. That's the offense. There's not much analysis there,

991
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 2: but I think that without the switch, or with the switch,

992
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 2: without Chris Paul to be able to punish it, and

993
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 2: you know, Booker is not going to put up a

994
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 2: forty point triple double every game. The Suns don't get

995
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 2: to the line a lot, they don't get a ton

996
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 2: of re offensive rebounds a lot. They don't have a

997
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 2: lot of easy ways to score, and Chris Paul is

998
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 2: one of those ways. So while he's out, and if

999
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 2: Aidan's not getting some of those easy buckets, and if

1000
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 2: Booker is not doing what he's been doing, I can

1001
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 2: see a scenario where the offense drives up a little

1002
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 2: bit and where the Clippers have a chance. The Sons

1003
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,840
Speaker 2: are the favorites though, but that's the area where I

1004
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 2: could see, Okay, if we got to Game four and

1005
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 2: we're tied to to two, how did this happen? I

1006
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 2: think that's the easiest path I see to how the

1007
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:19,320
Speaker 2: Clippers are still in this.

1008
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 1: Like I don't want to bet. I don't want to

1009
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 1: I bet sends to win the series, but I don't

1010
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 1: want to bet, like I don't want to go like

1011
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 1: for to one. Yeah, yeah, because I think.

1012
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 5: The thing I'm struggling with right now is that Marcus

1013
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:33,399
Speaker 5: Morris really doesn't look good.

1014
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 3: He's having some problems with his knee. I think the

1015
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 3: Clippers really are struggling to defend this team.

1016
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 5: I mean, you guys have already mentioned the eighting thing,

1017
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 5: but I mean they're just letting Booker and even campaign

1018
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:47,879
Speaker 5: and they're just getting wherever they went.

1019
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 3: So it's just like if you have I mean, the

1020
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 3: strength of this Clippers team.

1021
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 5: Is their wings. You're already down Kawhi Leonard. So if

1022
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 5: you're down Marcus Morrison and he's not, you know what

1023
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:00,880
Speaker 5: he's capable of doing on offense?

1024
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 3: And defense. Then I think the Clippers are all but

1025
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:08,879
Speaker 3: drawing dead three bad on a man.

1026
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, so some problems for the Clippers defensively. In Game one,

1027
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 2: they gave up thirty one assists on Phoenix baskets. Thirty

1028
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 2: one is a lot of assists, and the Clipper is

1029
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:23,839
Speaker 2: allowed under twenty three a game, which was third best

1030
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 2: in the regular season, and thirty one not third best. Also,

1031
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 2: the Suns on two pointers in Game one shot thirty

1032
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 2: six out of fifty seven. That's sixty three percent on

1033
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 2: two pointers. And remember that's with a lot of Booker

1034
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 2: pull ups too, which are not exactly one hundred percent shots,

1035
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 2: but that's a lot of easy, good looks, and that

1036
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 2: is very replicable. Like, if the Clippers can't keep you

1037
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:48,760
Speaker 2: anywhere down below sixty percent on twos for the series,

1038
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 2: it's not gonna last very long.

1039
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 1: So this is this is again gets back to my

1040
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 1: men Bigs thing. If you play draw versus Booker, he's

1041
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 1: gonna be the series leading scorer and he's gonna go

1042
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 1: off like he will go off every single game. If

1043
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 1: you switch versus him, you have a chants, which is

1044
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 1: why I think one of the reasons they started small

1045
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 1: but if Morris is hurt, you can't do that. Yeah,

1046
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 1: they don't have a replacement option. Like this is where

1047
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: it's not just Morris, it's Serge of Baka. Like that

1048
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:15,919
Speaker 1: was my big takeaway is if they could have started

1049
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 1: Surge yesterday, they're in a much different spot and you

1050
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:22,320
Speaker 1: just switch everything you know, and you probably play Morris

1051
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 1: and Morris is battling Ayden and that's not great, but

1052
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 1: fine because a lot of it was Ayden wasn't getting

1053
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 1: post ups right. They're not giving eight in the ball

1054
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 1: and going and saying go to work, big man. They're

1055
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 1: just they're breaking down the defense and getting inside and

1056
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 1: then feeding Ayton in different matchups, are getting the lob

1057
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 1: doing in different actions because they can't contain Booker. Now,

1058
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 1: Booker was an inferno. Booker won't be that way every game.

1059
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 1: The question is just when CP three going to be back,

1060
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 1: because if Booker is just able to have another great performance,

1061
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,879
Speaker 1: if we assume that Chris misses game two and CP

1062
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 1: three's backing games three, now you're in trouble because even

1063
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,800
Speaker 1: if Booker has a good game, or Booker doesn't have

1064
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: a good game, then Chris Paul can do it. Yeah,

1065
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 1: and all will also feed eight and a lot more

1066
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: like Payne's more of a shooter. And Booker was a

1067
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 1: really great passer in that game, but there's so much

1068
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 1: attention being paid to him. Chris will just hits Zubatch.

1069
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 1: Chris is just gonna run, pick and roll, make Zubach

1070
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 1: get in the middle and then lobbed to Eton and

1071
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,760
Speaker 1: they'll it'll be there eight out of ten times.

1072
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 5: Also, how much realistically, how much better can the Clippers

1073
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 5: offense actually be? I mean, they hit twenty threes. They

1074
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 5: had twenty threes to the Sun's thirteen threes. You put up,

1075
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 5: you know, win twenty four per one person. So it's

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00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 5: just I mean, I just don't I don't know how

1077
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,760
Speaker 5: much better they could possibly be against His Sun's defense,

1078
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 5: and for them to hit twenty threes and then still

1079
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 5: like really not even be in it towards the end

1080
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 5: of the game.

1081
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 3: I know they had that little spurt, but this was

1082
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 3: a sad point game.

1083
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 2: So one of the things I think that we overlooked

1084
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:08,879
Speaker 2: a little bit on the Clippers upsetting the Jazz one

1085
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 2: of the real flaws to that Jazz team. Despite that,

1086
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 2: they're still got so many things, But even in their

1087
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 2: awesome regular season. They turned it over a lot. There

1088
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:23,359
Speaker 2: was always a higher turnover team, and the Clippers forced

1089
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 2: a lot of turnovers. And if you think back to

1090
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:27,959
Speaker 2: like when the Clippers went on some of those mega

1091
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 2: runs against the Jazz, they'd score in a hurry because

1092
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 2: there'd be a few Clippers turnovers, are a few Jazz turnovers,

1093
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 2: I mean, and the and the Clippers run out and

1094
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 2: I start getting some easy pockets. Like you don't put

1095
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:40,919
Speaker 2: up a one to eighty offensive rating and a half

1096
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 2: just on only hitting threes, it's because you're getting run

1097
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 2: out dunks and like putting up points in a hurry.

1098
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:49,399
Speaker 2: The Suns don't turn it over, and especially once Chris

1099
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,320
Speaker 2: Paul is back, the Suns don't turn it over. So

1100
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 2: that's another area where like that you just need some

1101
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 2: of those easy points sometimes, and when you're the underdog

1102
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 2: and when you're missing Kawhi Le, you need to come

1103
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 2: up with some easy points. And I don't think that

1104
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:05,919
Speaker 2: the Sons are gonna give a lot of those easy

1105
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 2: points away, like the Jazz dead.

1106
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:12,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know, Bucks Bucks, Sons is what we

1107
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 1: like have to think that this is like heading towards

1108
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 1: which is man if I told you back in April

1109
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 1: it's gonna be Bucks Suns. You would have you could

1110
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 1: not have believed me. And you can still get by

1111
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 1: the way Bucks Sons at the MGM at plus wins

1112
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 1: fifty five or Bucks. I'm sorry. Bucks to beat Sons

1113
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,399
Speaker 1: is plus one fifty five and Sons to beat Bucks

1114
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 1: is plus two twenty five.

1115
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 5: I like the I like the Sons in that mansion.

1116
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 5: I'll I'm all over I'm all over the Suns, all

1117
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 5: over the sun. Why just because the last I mean

1118
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:48,839
Speaker 5: I watched their last regro season game, and I think

1119
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:51,359
Speaker 5: I had the actually had the Bucks in that game,

1120
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 5: and the one thing that stood out to me was

1121
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 5: that in crunch time, the Bucks could not score and

1122
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 5: they could not stop Devin Booker and Chris Paul. I

1123
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 5: mean literally every single time down didn't pull enough for midrange,

1124
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 5: and they just, I mean it just was easy.

1125
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 3: And I just I don't I don't see how the

1126
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 3: Bucks have enough. I'm gonna be honest with you.

1127
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 1: Okay, Well we'll see when we get there. I like

1128
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: the matchup. I think quite a bit for the Bucks,

1129
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 1: just based off of what we've seen from them, they

1130
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:19,760
Speaker 1: can say they could stay big versus aden with Brook Lopez.

1131
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 1: You know, I think the biggest thing here, Honestly, A

1132
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 1: lot of this is the Suns have still not faced

1133
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 1: anybody that can really defend them effectively. And you could say, like,

1134
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:33,280
Speaker 1: why would the Bucks be able to do with Brook Lopez.

1135
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 1: A lot of it's like Drew Holliday, like they are

1136
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 1: so much better with the guard pressure coming off the screens,

1137
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:41,320
Speaker 1: Like they are just way better than I mean, Reggie

1138
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:44,919
Speaker 1: Jackson's been amazing, but asking Reggie Jackson and even Paul

1139
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 1: George and like these guys get over these screens that

1140
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 1: I just don't think that's I think that there's a

1141
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 1: big gap there, Like the Sons have not faced they

1142
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 1: really a great defensive team yet the Clippers. Honestly, the

1143
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 1: Clippers won that Utah series with offense. Yeah, without a doubt,

1144
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 1: they won their DETA series with offense. The Bucks defense

1145
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:04,800
Speaker 1: is really great. Now I only betg on on defense

1146
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 1: versus offense in the NBA of these days, maybe I

1147
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 1: could run to your side if that's the matchup.

1148
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:10,800
Speaker 5: But I think I think I'm gonna be honest with you,

1149
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 5: I think it's a really tough series. I think it's

1150
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:14,879
Speaker 5: a six to seven game series easy. I don't think it's.

1151
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 2: I mean, they played twice in the regular season and

1152
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 2: the Suns won both games by one point yep, so

1153
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:24,919
Speaker 2: it should be fun. And those were full strength games

1154
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 2: except I think Drew Halliday was missing for one, so.

1155
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 5: The Suns were like in a bad spot too in

1156
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 5: the second game too. I think they were in a

1157
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 5: back to back.

1158
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 1: But given how the playoffs have gone so far, I'm

1159
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 1: looking forward to putting him in my bet on the

1160
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 1: Hawks to be the Clippers at plus fifty thousands, so.

1161
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 2: Right, one other bet on this series that my favorite bet.

1162
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 2: Like we're looking for series bets, I don't think that

1163
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 2: we're seeing a lot of great series bets that we

1164
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 2: like on either of these teams, just because the favorites

1165
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 2: feel so likely and then the way is so high already.

1166
00:57:57,640 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 2: One bet that I'm looking at is you can bet

1167
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:01,919
Speaker 2: at bet MGM. You can bet on who's the leading

1168
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 2: scorer for the series. And Matt, I know you say

1169
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 2: you don't like betty on the players. There's the injuries,

1170
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 2: there's all those factors. So Devin Booker is the favorite

1171
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 2: to leave the series in scoring. He obviously scored forty

1172
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 2: in the opener makes a lot of sense, but Booker

1173
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 2: can still have those games where he just kind of

1174
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 2: isn't a big factor, in part because they don't need

1175
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 2: him to like it, in part because they you know,

1176
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 2: suddenly McHale put up like twenty two that night and

1177
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 2: Chris Paul was doing his thing and down rate and

1178
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 2: had twenty five and it was like, oh oh, Booker

1179
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 2: only scored fourteen to night, and like they won by ten. Anyways,

1180
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 2: it didn't really matter. The Clippers can't do that. Paul

1181
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 2: George has to score, especially with Kawhiat he has to score.

1182
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 2: And George has scored at least twenty every playoff game.

1183
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 2: He scored at least twenty seven in six straight games.

1184
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 2: Right now, and even in the opener, as good as

1185
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 2: Booker was, he's only down six right now. So PG

1186
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 2: is ivan odds plus one hundred. Booker is at minus

1187
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 2: one twenty. I think Paul George is a good bet

1188
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 2: to leave the series in scoring. What do you guys

1189
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 2: sing about that one?

1190
00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 1: Don't like it at all. Kawi can come back at

1191
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 1: any point. He's still rehab. That's entirely possible. The defense

1192
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 1: is only a key in more, and Paul George. He

1193
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 1: has to take tough shots. They do have good defenders

1194
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 1: to be able to put on him in Phoenix. I

1195
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 1: don't I think the Booker is still gonna be able

1196
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 1: to hit a lot of shots, especially when Chris Paul

1197
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 1: gets back. That takes more of the attention off of him.

1198
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 1: I'm not in. I'm not sold.

1199
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 2: All right. I gave it a shot.

1200
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 1: Well, you're gonna wind out, right, because every time I

1201
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 1: tell you, every time I try negative, it winds out cashing.

1202
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 1: So go ahead and get your money in on Paul

1203
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 1: George to lead the playoff of the series and scoring.

1204
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 1: All right, let's go wrap it up with the Action

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