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Speaker 1: At least he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

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Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to seven Home of the

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Speaker 1: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome to the Drive. I am Dale Lollie here

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Speaker 2: with the Matt Williamson. It is a eh, lusty, crappy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I expect to see piglet rolling by us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I was no place like home. There's no place like

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Speaker 3: home right to Kansas.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where we're at here. It is March in

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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh and well n C. A tournament kicked off today.

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Speaker 2: Lots of stuff happening.

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Speaker 3: He sneaks up on me. I always think I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: get a bracket in and I never do because oh

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Speaker 3: it's Thursday already and happens every year. You put one in.

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Speaker 2: I do one on ESPN every year.

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Speaker 3: Just yeah, I want to because just then I'll care

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Speaker 3: who wins. But I never lately, I always forget.

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Speaker 2: I used to do one at the office every year

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Speaker 2: in both times every time my wife had a child,

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Speaker 2: I would win the bracket.

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Speaker 3: That's three wins.

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Speaker 2: It's three wins. I didn't make me want to have

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Speaker 2: a fourth. But what's that didn't make me want to

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Speaker 2: have a fourth now say is that enough? No, it

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Speaker 2: is not, or these are only with you child, well,

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Speaker 2: the ones that you father.

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Speaker 3: I assume that you're aware that I'm aware.

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Speaker 2: It's not bad though. It's a pretty good stretch.

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Speaker 3: You know, when's a win. When's a win, I think

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Speaker 3: good mojo in the lollyhouse.

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Speaker 2: Maybe two of the times I picked ukon the windows

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Speaker 2: happened to be years at yukon one. Okay, so you

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Speaker 2: win these things. You don't pick the favorite. You go

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Speaker 2: with somebody who's oh okay. They weren't like a one team.

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Speaker 2: They were not anyway. But you'll watch, right, I always watched. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: got some breaking news on the Steelers front. They made

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Speaker 2: another signing today bringing back James Pierre and again one

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Speaker 2: year deal doesn't guarantee.

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Speaker 3: That, right, right, Yeah, nice insurance.

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Speaker 2: Insurance you're gonna have. As Bob Labriola said yesterday, you

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Speaker 2: take ninety guys to camp, and so why not take

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Speaker 2: that guy? You know what he is as a gunner.

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Speaker 3: That's key. Yeah, I mean, it seems like a lot

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Speaker 3: of these moves, either directly or indirectly, have major special

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Speaker 3: teams ramifications. You brought it up a couple days ago.

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Speaker 3: I mean there's a chance when we're at the owners meeting,

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Speaker 3: they changed the kickoff rule and that was their weakest

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Speaker 3: part of special teams. They found gunners. I mean I

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Speaker 3: vividly remember being in Latrobe going every day would be

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Speaker 3: like they don't have any gunners.

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Speaker 2: They didn't have Scronic on the roster.

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Speaker 3: At that point they had zero. They was total work

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Speaker 3: in progress. Now they got a couple three or four.

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Speaker 3: They're very highly capable, so that part's good. And I

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Speaker 3: like Scornic, Like if he's out there playing ten to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, So that is a seam that doesn't make

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Speaker 2: how this all breaks out once they get the training camp. Also,

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Speaker 2: thing with the media and everything, and of course was asked,

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Speaker 2: you know why the Jets, And whenever I hear something

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Speaker 3: In the press conference.

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Speaker 2: People always read too much into these opening press conferences.

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Speaker 3: That's interesting. I was thinking the exact I don't even

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Speaker 2: Know, as Crosby stills in Nash saying, if you can't

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Speaker 2: Of course, you're always going to say, oh, I love

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Speaker 3: There's always clips and I always get ones. You know, boy,

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I can't believe they traded me here, right right? Thanks?

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Speaker 2: I don't like this situation. So he uh, Justin Fields

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Speaker 3: But that's again you gotta look at that, two different

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Speaker 2: A long year in New York and they could take

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Speaker 2: and we're bring in competition for him, And I don't.

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Speaker 3: Know how you couldn't unless he was awesome, and if

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Speaker 3: I don't even care what they did at quarterback. If

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't guarantee anything. It's the same thing, you know,

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Speaker 2: that's the way it goes. Nor was Mitch Trubisky, as

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Speaker 3: They didn't. That term gets thrown around a little too much.

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Speaker 2: They signed him to be their bridge quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, the next contract could be your franchise if

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Speaker 3: he'd be awesome, just like Fields with New York. I mean,

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Speaker 3: he's an experiment.

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Speaker 2: Realistically, you know, they're like six franchise quarterbacks in the NFL,

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Speaker 3: And that doesn't mean they're terrible or they're.

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Speaker 2: They wouldn't be a franchise quarterback for everybody. Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, And you know, I just don't know that

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Speaker 2: talking about the defensive tackle class that signed. That's a

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Speaker 3: But I get it from the Jets perspective too. I

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Speaker 2: Now sitting there right with Tommy bag of donuts.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, is their entire Taylor can kind of be a

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Speaker 2: But people always want to read into it. It's the

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Speaker 2: your heros said that, well, you know the facilities here,

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Speaker 2: I would hope that the Chargers facility, which opened a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm sure it is, you know, but that's

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Speaker 2: Why you signed somewhere that you signed because opportunity and

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Speaker 2: I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here

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Speaker 3: At least.

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't love the receiver class, and I

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00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:07,960
Speaker 2: think there's some guys that I that I like, and

438
00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,720
Speaker 2: I like the middle round guys, you know, the Jalen

439
00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,760
Speaker 2: Noel's and the yeah yeah, the Utah State kid and

440
00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:19,040
Speaker 2: guys like that. But the running backs they seem pretty safe. Yeah, yeah,

441
00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,840
Speaker 2: they're good football player. The only thing else there aren't

442
00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:25,560
Speaker 2: many of these guys that I look at and say, yeah,

443
00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:29,520
Speaker 2: he's ready to step in and be productive as a

444
00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:30,240
Speaker 2: pass blocker.

445
00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:32,280
Speaker 3: Oh, it's a bad group of pass blockers.

446
00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, Trayvon Henderson is good, good, even though he's.

447
00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:38,280
Speaker 3: Smaller, smaller, it's even a gent problem, you know what

448
00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,200
Speaker 3: I mean. Yeah, part of it because when they're on

449
00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,600
Speaker 3: the throw, yeah, right, you get you get the ball.

450
00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:44,200
Speaker 3: I want him in a route or at least taking

451
00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,560
Speaker 3: a linebacker with them, or I'm gonna dump them the

452
00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,080
Speaker 3: ball or you know, that's the one time we can

453
00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:49,879
Speaker 3: save their bodies.

454
00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:53,120
Speaker 2: When did you ever get to see Caleb Johnson pass block, right?

455
00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:54,119
Speaker 2: They never throw the ball.

456
00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very true. But it's not a good group

457
00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,359
Speaker 3: of pass blocking backs across the board.

458
00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:02,760
Speaker 2: And that's not unusual. But it's actually what made Jalm

459
00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:06,399
Speaker 2: Warren so unusual his rookie year, Like he was wow.

460
00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean everyone raved about Zeke coming out at

461
00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,920
Speaker 3: this point, coming into Ohio State, and he was great

462
00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:14,640
Speaker 3: every step of the way and still is. And maybe

463
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,040
Speaker 3: that's still why he was in the league, you know,

464
00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:16,760
Speaker 3: because a good chance.

465
00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, he's a little runner any anymore, right,

466
00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:21,520
Speaker 2: but on third downs you can dump the ball to

467
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,959
Speaker 2: him and he is like having an extra offensive lineman.

468
00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:28,800
Speaker 3: It goes a long way. But that's again not uncommon. Whoever,

469
00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:30,560
Speaker 3: the Steelers end up drafting, and I know that they

470
00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:34,520
Speaker 3: will draft one. Yeah, probably a mini camp won't look good.

471
00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,480
Speaker 3: Backs on backers won't look good. Preseason will look a

472
00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,480
Speaker 3: little better, yeah, and by week one or two, you

473
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:41,560
Speaker 3: hope he's got it. You know.

474
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:47,560
Speaker 2: It makes me wonder about the style of back or

475
00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:49,639
Speaker 2: the backs that they take, because you have you have

476
00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:54,120
Speaker 2: you have Warren, and there's this this feeling out there

477
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 2: that Warren is a small running back. When he's not,

478
00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,200
Speaker 2: he's not right now, he's not as big as Nagie Harris.

479
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:01,640
Speaker 3: No, but now he's one of the bigger.

480
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:03,680
Speaker 2: He's one of the biggest backs in the League's tarning

481
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:04,480
Speaker 2: forty pounds for.

482
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:08,200
Speaker 3: God's sake, super long arms and the different body type, taller.

483
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 2: You know, right, Jalen Warren is two hundred and fifteen pounds.

484
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think anything over two ten I consider pretty

485
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:14,359
Speaker 3: much a bigger back.

486
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:19,440
Speaker 2: Twenty yeah, eighteen anymore, right, two fifteen is a good

487
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 2: size back. And I understand he's five nine, but he's

488
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 2: five nine two fifteen. Think about that.

489
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:28,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Now I think it's worth questioning what percentage

490
00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 3: of the touches can he handle or comfortable with. I mean,

491
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:35,280
Speaker 3: he's never been eighty percent type guy. And they're definitely

492
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,080
Speaker 3: going to draft another. But we've gone back and forth

493
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,119
Speaker 3: on this. I mean, we went six months or so

494
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,919
Speaker 3: thinking it's gonna be someone bigger than Warren, and then

495
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 3: they start bringing.

496
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,480
Speaker 2: In They bring in Kenneth Gamewell, and they bring Samson,

497
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,160
Speaker 2: Dylan Samson from Tennessee, and it's like, and.

498
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:54,080
Speaker 3: It starts to add up too. It's like well, if

499
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 3: I have these two downfield receivers and I can get

500
00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,320
Speaker 3: people out of the box, and I have one less tackler,

501
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 3: you know, Trayvon Henderson's going to take it twenty five

502
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 3: yards where nause you would take it to seven. You know,

503
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 3: I mean, like, where are we going to get our explosives? Well,

504
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 3: maybe on.

505
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,680
Speaker 2: The ground, Yeah, Dylan Samson.

506
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,679
Speaker 3: Probably not have a running quarterback at this point. I

507
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 3: mean maybe you know, fields would get provided more explosive runs. Well,

508
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 3: now I'm changing tune. But December never rules around and

509
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,879
Speaker 3: was sure nice having the bus, right, you know, with

510
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 3: a lead or in Cleveland or Baltimore or New England

511
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 3: or whatever, you know.

512
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 2: But even a guy like a Joe Mixon's like a

513
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 2: two hundred and twenty pound running.

514
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:37,680
Speaker 3: Back, he's kind of the best of both worlds.

515
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the like you get the speed and you

516
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,439
Speaker 2: get the you know, the size.

517
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:46,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's some of those in this yeah, Judkins, right, yeah, Yeah.

518
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,199
Speaker 2: So I mean I look at this and you know,

519
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,119
Speaker 2: I understand people say, well, you got to take the

520
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,239
Speaker 2: running back in the first round. That's the guaranteed thing.

521
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,639
Speaker 2: And I I am not of the crowd in the

522
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 2: crowd that says you never take a running back in

523
00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,360
Speaker 2: the first round. If he's a great talent, take him

524
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:01,680
Speaker 2: in the first round. If that's what you.

525
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 3: Need, Hampton I would consider. I'm assuming gent he's gone. Yeah, Hampton,

526
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,640
Speaker 3: I would consider. None of the other ones. I would

527
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,920
Speaker 3: And I like Henderson, I like Judkins, And I realized

528
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 3: that if you sit at twenty one and you sit

529
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,159
Speaker 3: at your third round pick, you're not going to not

530
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 3: going to get those guys, but they won't be in

531
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 3: my top twenty one. Yeah, but Hampton will. Yeah.

532
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,479
Speaker 2: And you know there's some other guys later in this

533
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 2: draft that you know may be available at eighty three

534
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 2: or you know in the one twenties that you look

535
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:33,400
Speaker 2: at and you know Damian Martinez from Miami as he's

536
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:34,159
Speaker 2: one of my faves.

537
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:39,680
Speaker 3: Yeah. Not much of a pass catcher. Some Jordan Howard compares.

538
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 2: Two pass catching backs.

539
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 3: You do, you do? And if you're going to go big,

540
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 3: he runs with a lot of attitude. He's really hard

541
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 3: to tackle. I think he's a better zone runner, which

542
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 3: is what they're probably looking for. I think he'd fit

543
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 3: in very well. And he's a fourth rounder.

544
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's also two hundred and thirty pounds and you know,

545
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 2: still that was the thing to me about the running

546
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 2: backs at the Combine. The forty times as they put

547
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 2: up were ridiculous.

548
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,640
Speaker 3: Best ever, like the average, the best ever, the best

549
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,400
Speaker 3: ever if you average it out, it was the best

550
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 3: ever in running back history.

551
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,120
Speaker 2: Now he ran a four to five to one, which

552
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,159
Speaker 2: is fine for him, it's great actually, And now he

553
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,400
Speaker 2: was trimmed down to two hundred and seventeen pounds.

554
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

555
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 2: I don't think he plays twenty five.

556
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't think he's running away from defenses.

557
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 2: But for four or five to one is moving.

558
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 3: Yeah for a big back like that.

559
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, for go some moves and can run people over.

560
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 2: Caleb Johnson ran a four to five seven, and people

561
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,439
Speaker 2: were looking at him this year in this draft like

562
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 2: he's the slow.

563
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 3: Guy, which he brought the average down.

564
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 2: It was like for the average runs. The average forty

565
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 2: speed for the backs at the Combine this year, if

566
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 2: memory serves, is four four eight.

567
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,919
Speaker 3: I think it's four four eight. Four eight is flying,

568
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 3: flying because they're not all little guys either, right, and

569
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 3: there's not many little guys and there's not many sprolls type.

570
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 3: You know, the one seventy one eighty receiver types. I don't.

571
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 3: I mean, I think a lot of these backs are

572
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 3: two hundred plus.

573
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 2: And you know, so you get into the even some

574
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 2: of the guys who were were later here, like like

575
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 2: the Brichard Smiths of the world, throw the blow the

576
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,880
Speaker 2: curve out, you know, they could run.

577
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, but there's those guys every year.

578
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know. But even guys like Devin Neil out

579
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 2: of Kansas is a real good player, is a really

580
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 2: good player. You know, he came in at two thirteen

581
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:40,399
Speaker 2: at the combine. He plays around two twenty four or

582
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 2: five eight for him, and it's like, oh he's slow. Yeah, yeah,

583
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 2: he's not slow, not at all. If that's five years ago,

584
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,360
Speaker 2: like that's a really good time. That's a good time

585
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 2: for it.

586
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,640
Speaker 3: He doesn't play like a slow guy either. No, No,

587
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 3: I mean there aren't many of these backs I dislike. No.

588
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:56,360
Speaker 2: I think they all have they they will all contribute

589
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,959
Speaker 2: in some way. And I think we've gotten caught up

590
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 2: in the you gotta have a bell cow kind of guy.

591
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 2: The Steelers haven't really in the in the truest sense

592
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 2: of the word, had a bell cow since Najee Harris's

593
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 2: rookie year.

594
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 3: I say, says live, but you're right, it's I mean,

595
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 3: it's really nause.

596
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 2: His rookie year. Yeah, he got three hundred and ninety

597
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 2: touches that season. But since then they've always split it up. Yeah,

598
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 2: when when Mike Tomlin has had a second back capable

599
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:31,479
Speaker 2: of contributing, they did so when he had Yeah, when

600
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 2: he has Bell. We've talked about this, you know at length, Well,

601
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:36,919
Speaker 2: lev was your best third down back, he was your

602
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 2: best short yardage back. He was your best you know,

603
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 2: pass protection back, first and ten third and one third

604
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 2: and sixteen.

605
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 3: That's the beauty that guy.

606
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, And you never wanted you never want to

607
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 2: take him off the field. And and people got into

608
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 2: this Iel Cower or Tomlin's just going to run the

609
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 2: wheels off of them. Yeah, yeah, No, if he has

610
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 2: a second back capable of of contributing, he's going to

611
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 2: put that guy. He's going to make use of that guy,

612
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,120
Speaker 2: which is what he's done the last couple of years

613
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 2: with Jayalen Moren.

614
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 3: I don't have my laptop with me, but are you

615
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 3: looking at a draft list of backs? Yeah, let's just

616
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,679
Speaker 3: go buzz through the names, just because I mean, I know,

617
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 3: some people in mock drafts, they come up, but we

618
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 3: don't always take them. There aren't many that I would

619
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 3: turn my nose up at, you know. I mean, obviously

620
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 3: Gent's number.

621
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 2: One, Gent Henderson, Dylan Samson, Amari and Hampton, Quinn, Shawn Jenkins, Beasehn, Touton,

622
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 2: bay Shall, Tuton.

623
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 3: I should say, I mean three or four of those

624
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:31,479
Speaker 3: guys you just mentioned, Towton, Henderson, Samson. These are highly

625
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 3: explosive take it to the house type too. Yeah, you know,

626
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 3: there's a lot of those in this draft.

627
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 2: Caleb Johnson, Damian Martinez, Cam Scatibo, Jordan James, Olie Gordon.

628
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 3: James didn't test well, but his tape's still pretty impressive.

629
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 3: You might get him a round cheaper than you.

630
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 2: Thought, you know, Trevor atn Woody Marks out of usc

631
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 2: Jark Oiz Hunter out of Auburn, Jayden Blue out of Texas.

632
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 2: Another fast explosive right, Devin Neil out of Kansas, Montreal

633
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 2: Johnson out of Florida, Raheem Sanders out of South Carolina,

634
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 2: Brichard Smith out of SMU.

635
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 3: I think all these guys are getting picked.

636
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 2: Cale mcgonough guy out of Rutgers, Kalel Mullins out of Michigan, RJ.

637
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 2: Harvey at a UCF, the Quinn Allen out of Syracuse,

638
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 2: DJ Giddens at a K State, TAJ Brooks out of Texas, tech.

639
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 3: YEA and some of those guys you mentioned recently aren't

640
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 3: bottom a list nobody throw away guys. Yeah, Gideon Giddons

641
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 3: and Harvey and Neil.

642
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 2: Last year, yeah, last year their third round picks or

643
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 2: maybe a second page, right, But this year is so

644
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 2: deep that I don't know how many teams.

645
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 3: Are in the market, but there's not that much of

646
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 3: a shortage, you know, I mean Dallas, I think the Bears,

647
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 3: the Broncos have it as a primary need. I don't

648
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 3: know how many teams would use an early round pick

649
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 3: on a back, but there's it is such a good

650
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 3: class that they're gonna be sitting up here on your

651
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 3: vertical board and your horizontal board going well. You know,

652
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 3: teams run the ball more.

653
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean put it this way one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen,

654
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty. Backs on Lance zero lines Listen NFL dot

655
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Speaker 2: Com have a six O grade or better, okay, which

656
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 2: means they're draftable. Draftable, Yeah, easily a starter or potential

657
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 2: starter down the road.

658
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Speaker 3: Probably active game one or day one, touching the ball

659
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Speaker 3: in Week one.

660
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Speaker 2: And that doesn't even include guys that I like, like

661
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Speaker 2: DJ Giddens.

662
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's not even in that talk.

663
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 2: He's not even that group. Bretage Brooks. These are good

664
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Speaker 2: football players.

665
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Speaker 3: And I could see, I know, he goes back and

666
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 3: read does things after the combine and tries to get

667
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 3: all the names in that are at the combine. I

668
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 3: could see Giddin's going the third round. Yeah, I mean big, strong, fast,

669
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 3: really explosive. You know, great highlight tape can catch football.

670
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 3: You know, it is a really good group, and it's

671
00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 3: almost a shame if you don't get one. Yeah, names

672
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 3: you even mentioned. I mean, we've talked about this before.

673
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 3: I might spend a couple extra bucks on an undrafted

674
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 3: free agent at this position. You know, how long is

675
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 3: Warren going to be around? Game Well's on a one

676
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 3: year deal, right, guy might not factor in this year,

677
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 3: but one of those names that doesn't play for you

678
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 3: much this season, you might be real happyes in camp

679
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 3: a year from now. Yeah, and give a ton of

680
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 3: preseason carries. You know, I'm not getting worn any preseason.

681
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 2: Care And that's the thing about the position. And I

682
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 2: understand when when people say, well, you can find running

683
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 2: backs anywhere, because every year in training camp or the preseason,

684
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 2: somebody's third or four string running back goes out and

685
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 2: looks good in the preseason because they're running against.

686
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they have a lot to prove and yeah, yeah,

687
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 3: it's a position that adapts pretty quickly. I was just

688
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,479
Speaker 3: sitting here thinking that, like, I don't want to use

689
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Speaker 3: a lot of Warren up in the preseason exactly. Yeah,

690
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 3: if you use a high pick on a Judkins, I

691
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 3: probably don't want him getting too beat up, but I

692
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 3: want him getting some touches. You probably know what Gainwell

693
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Speaker 3: was at this point. Whoever RB war is probably leads

694
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Speaker 3: the team in.

695
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 2: Preseason rushing now, just knowing how Mike Tomlin does it,

696
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 2: it probably would be the if they draft, it would

697
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 2: be the rookie, just to get him up to speed

698
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 2: and let him pass block in the game and stuff

699
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. But you know, it's a really

700
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Speaker 2: deep position, and I understand. You know, well, Genty and

701
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 2: Hampton are really good. Yeah, they are right, but there's

702
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 2: some other guys. It's the twenty seventeen drafting all over

703
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 2: again for me, and you.

704
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Speaker 3: Know, we'll look back on him probably be like six

705
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 3: of them went to a Pro Bowl at some point, right.

706
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Speaker 2: You know, if you look at the draft at draftistory

707
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Speaker 2: dot com, that twenty seventeen draft, I'm calling.

708
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,959
Speaker 3: It the Connor one, right, it's crazy.

709
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's in.

710
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 3: Some of those guys are still going strong Kamara.

711
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 2: And some of them are still getting Yeah. So you

712
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 2: had Leonard Fournette fourth overall, which looks bad, but he

713
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 2: was a pretty darn good player coming out LS. Yeah,

714
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 2: and he was a big reason why the Jaguars were

715
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Speaker 2: good that you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he just didn't last super long and was never

717
00:32:58,120 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 3: a great receiver.

718
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 2: Christian McCaw he went eighth, that's not bad. Dalvin Cook

719
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 2: went forty first.

720
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Speaker 3: He's going to be on Hall of Fame ballots. Yeah.

721
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 2: Joe Mixon went forty eighth and would have gone higher

722
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 2: if not for some all field stuff.

723
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Speaker 3: And boy, I thought he was shot when he went

724
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Speaker 3: to Houston, and I was wrong. He was good as

725
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 3: past years.

726
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 2: Alvin Kamara went sixty seven.

727
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Speaker 3: He probably is going to the Hall of Fame.

728
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 2: Kareem Hunt went eighty six.

729
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,959
Speaker 3: Had a good career, checkered off the field.

730
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 2: But right, Dante Foreman went eighty ninth, and that's not

731
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Speaker 2: even a bad still in the league, right, right, right,

732
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Speaker 2: it's not a bad pick. James Connor went one hundred

733
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Speaker 2: and fifth.

734
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Speaker 3: He's playing as well as ever, Sama seeing.

735
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Speaker 2: Samaj p Ryme went one fourteen.

736
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Speaker 3: He's a perfect guy. That Riel is a protection. You know,

737
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Speaker 3: those type of dudes.

738
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Speaker 2: Tarik Cohen went won nineteen.

739
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Speaker 3: I see even Cohen had a five year stint there

740
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 3: where he was a force.

741
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Speaker 2: He really didn't get a miss until the eleventh running

742
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Speaker 2: back taken Joe Williams to the forty nine ers out

743
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Speaker 2: of Utah.

744
00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 3: No, I remember that, Okay, they were like stood on

745
00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 3: the table, couldn't believe.

746
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Speaker 2: One twenty one. Yeah, then you had at one thirty

747
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 2: two the Eagles took Danel Pumphrey. That didn't work out.

748
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 2: Jamal Williams went at one thirty four.

749
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Speaker 3: Aaron Jones went after him.

750
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Speaker 2: Aaron Jones, that's why I haven't got him yet.

751
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:15,879
Speaker 3: Right, they doubled down.

752
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 2: Wayne Gollman went at one forty to the Giants. Marlon

753
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 2: Mack went to the Colts at one forty three.

754
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 3: It was pretty good for a while.

755
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 2: Brian Hill went to the Falcons at one fifty six,

756
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 2: Jeremy McNichols, who's still in the league at one sixty

757
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 2: two to the Buccaneers in the league. TJ Logan at

758
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 2: one seventy nine to the Cardinals. That's the eighteenth back taken. Wow.

759
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 2: Aaron Jones the nineteenth back taken at one eighty two.

760
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Speaker 3: What's he the third, fourth, fifth, best of the.

761
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 2: He's a late fifth round pick. Elijah McGuire at one

762
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 2: eighty eight to the Jets. Alex Armagh to the one

763
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 2: ninety two to the Panthers, D'Angelo Henderson to the Broncos

764
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Speaker 2: at two three, Sam Rodgers at two o six to

765
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Speaker 2: the Rams. The Bengals took Brandon Wilson seven, Devonte Mays

766
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 2: to the Packers. They took three running backs that he

767
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 2: was the third one, Mark Wes Williams, Kalani, Muhammad Califani, Muhammad,

768
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 2: Elijah Hood, Chris Carson, and Matthew Days had good career.

769
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Speaker 2: Thirty running backs taken in the draft, and probably about

770
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 2: twenty of them you would consider hits or more.

771
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 3: Four or five of them are gonna be in Hall

772
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 3: of Fame ballots. Yeah, one or two we're gonna get in.

773
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 3: This draft is compet three of them? Yeah, in my

774
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 3: eyes you could see. I don't know if you're going

775
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 3: to see one of them picked at for and one

776
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 3: of them at eight. No. No, Well, but it wouldn't

777
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 3: shock me. Yeah, what's the earliest. I mean, I've seen

778
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,280
Speaker 3: max where jent T goes, I don't Raiders.

779
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 2: Hampton might not get out of the top ten.

780
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 3: That's what I was thinking, is if gent goes to

781
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 3: the Raiders and Hampton sitting there for the Bears.

782
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 2: Maybe, But then the next running back after those two

783
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 2: first round picks was Dalvin Cook at forty one, who's

784
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 2: a star. Yeah, it was a complete hit. Joe Mixon

785
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,280
Speaker 2: at fourty eight, Kamara at sixty seven, Kareem Hunted eighty six.

786
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,399
Speaker 3: We talked about this months ago before the game, well,

787
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 3: signing before the Metcalf trade. Taking the Packers approach wouldn't

788
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 3: be bad.

789
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 2: That's the worst thing to do. I mean, like maybe

790
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 2: not three.

791
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 3: We three is crazy, but I mean I'm thinking two.

792
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 2: But if you had like nine picks, Okay, I get it.

793
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,479
Speaker 3: I was thinking the Browns have a ton of picks. Yeah,

794
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 3: and they don't really don't have a running back at

795
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 3: this point, and they have so many other needs. I

796
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 3: might be give me a fourth and a sixth rounder

797
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 3: and see where maybe the sixth rounder is better. And

798
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 3: as it was for the Packers. Yeah, and Williams wasn't bad.

799
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 2: No, I mean, so you know, it was a good

800
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 2: draft for running backs, and this year I think is

801
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 2: comparable to that.

802
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,919
Speaker 3: And I wonder, I mean, the running backs don't matter,

803
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,439
Speaker 3: don't draft a running back, blah blah blah. I don't

804
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 3: think man of those teams are unhappy about it, including

805
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 3: four Nette the first one overall. No, I mean he

806
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 3: was good for the jack, good running back.

807
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 2: He played a long you know, a good long time,

808
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 2: six seven years, eight years in the league. Quality years, yeah, yeah,

809
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 2: quality year. Let alone McCaffrey, right, the star, some of

810
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 2: those other guys. Yeah, that's it's it was a solid,

811
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 2: solid Dante Foreman at pick eighty nine was not a

812
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 2: bad pick. He's still in the.

813
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 3: League, blew out his area's achilles and came back and

814
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 3: it's still been a quality player.

815
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean that's just this draft is amazing. Those

816
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 2: guys have been the league eight nine years now already

817
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 2: running back. Yeah yeah, a lot of them. But they

818
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 2: don't last.

819
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 3: What's that?

820
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 2: Running backs don't last? They do if they're good, they're good,

821
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 2: right yeah? Yeah. Anyways, let's get through a break. He

822
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Speaker 2: is the Matt.

823
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Speaker 3: Williamson's I learned from that class.

824
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm Dale Lollie. You're listening to the Drive here

825
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Speaker 2: on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt and I will be

826
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Speaker 2: back with more right after this.

827
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Speaker 3: At least.

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829
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Speaker 2: Radio and welcome back. I'm Dale Lolly. He is the

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and Matt Mike band on NFL dot Com.

833
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Speaker 2: He's part of their next next Gen Stats research, research

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Speaker 2: and analytics.

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Speaker 3: Unfamiliar with mister band.

836
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so he takes a look here at the draft.

837
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Speaker 2: He put up a mock draft. I just wanted to

838
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Speaker 2: talk about this because we're not going to go through

839
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Speaker 2: the whole thing. But on each team's pick, he puts

840
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Speaker 2: the probability of the first position drafted for that team.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, that's just based on the next Gen stats. Yeah, yeah,

842
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 2: all that scene needs and where you pick and all

843
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. I'm sure you put apply math

844
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Speaker 2: to anything.

845
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

846
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 2: So for the Steelers, we can go through the division. Actually, yeah,

847
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 2: let's feel about the entire EFC North. So for the Browns,

848
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 2: it has to be growing at quarterback. The possibility of

849
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 2: the first position drafted. Quarterback is forty two percent, I

850
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 2: get it. Defensive line is thirty six percent, cornerback eighteen percent.

851
00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 3: Well, I guess Carter could be I'm gonna sitting here

852
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 3: think it's a defensive line.

853
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, what was the third one? I'm sorry, cornerback eighteen percent.

854
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 2: I mean it really comes down to three players. He

855
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 2: could also list as wide receiver. That is a three

856
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 2: horse racing thing for their pack. But he has them

857
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 2: taking Abdul Carter. Okay, so the lesser of the middle

858
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 2: part of that. Looking at the Bengals, who are down

859
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 2: at what seventeen, I.

860
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 3: Don't I don't know how it's not defensive end at

861
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 3: this point.

862
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 2: He has defensive line thirty nine percent for them, offensive

863
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 2: line twenty one percent.

864
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, nothing's going to be eighty percent. I'm

865
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 3: sure ninety percent. But man, the more their offseason shapes

866
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 3: up with or without hendrickson their edge. Guys are really

867
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 3: really thin.

868
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:47,800
Speaker 2: Cornerback is nineteen percent, safety is nine percent.

869
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 3: There's two really attractive safeties could be yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

870
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 3: he has him taking Will Johnson, the cornerback out of

871
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 3: Michigan in somewhere he falls to that for that point.

872
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, for the Steelers. He has offensive line at twenty

873
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 2: six percent.

874
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 3: No chance.

875
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 2: I think that's that's insane. I think that's I'm not

876
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 2: taking an offensive lineman in the first round.

877
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:11,760
Speaker 3: I think it could be under five percent.

878
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,359
Speaker 2: If I were making odds on that, I don't even

879
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 2: know that I would list it.

880
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 3: No, I wouldn't do one of the top one.

881
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 2: Yeah. Sure, again, he may be looking at that as

882
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 2: what's available. Sure, Connorley's there, or guys like R. Simmons

883
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 2: or someone like that.

884
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 3: I get it that if they would present value at

885
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 3: twenty one, but it would not be my pick he does.

886
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 3: I'll be shocked if it is.

887
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 2: Defensive line at twenty percent. I think it's higher, but

888
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 2: there's should be much higher. I would you agree there's

889
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 2: fewer options at twenty one than O line, but it's

890
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 2: still much more probable. Yeah, I guess you know.

891
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 3: Graham's gone, is Grant worth, it is Nolan worth it, it's

892
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 3: Harmon worth it right.

893
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 2: But he has quarterback at nineteen percent.

894
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 3: Pretty high. That's it's gonna be one of the highest

895
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 3: quarterback percentages of any team.

896
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then cornerback is fifteen percent, which I think is.

897
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 3: High, which I think is high after free agency. Yeah,

898
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 3: if you told me that going into free agency like

899
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 3: it might be a little low. Wide receivers an listed,

900
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 3: not at all. I can't imagine. Can't you know you

901
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 3: do your first two picks on wideouts, which is what

902
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 3: it was.

903
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 2: So he has them taking no running back, no running

904
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 2: back in your opinion, better chance it's a running back

905
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 2: or a quarterback running back me too, me too. Yeah,

906
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,280
Speaker 2: I mean to me, there's only one quarterback to consider

907
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 2: and start. And we've been through that a lot the

908
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,399
Speaker 2: last twenty four hours or so. I mean, I could,

909
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,720
Speaker 2: I understand it, and I see why it's gaining steam,

910
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 2: but it's.

911
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 3: Not for me.

912
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:48,399
Speaker 2: He has them taking Derek Carmon seen not more and more. Yeah,

913
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 2: it fit the bill. And for the Ravens, they defensive

914
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 2: line is thirty percent be an edge. Yeah, offensive line

915
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 2: is thirty percent.

916
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 3: It'd be a guard.

917
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 2: Cornerback is twenty percent, wide receivers eight percent, even after

918
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 2: signing UH.

919
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 3: To one term one time. I mean, I Bateman I

920
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 3: think is up after this year because they didn't pick

921
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 3: up the fifth year option.

922
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 2: But they finagled it, gave him some money out, and

923
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 2: little Hours is.

924
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 3: Up sort of soon. I mean, all things considered, so

925
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 3: there's nobody locked up for the long haul. Yeah. Another

926
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:32,800
Speaker 3: Ravens option is defensive back, because.

927
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 2: If they want Warner back at twenty percent, as I.

928
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 3: Guess, I just was kind of putting safety and corner

929
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 3: together because if they want to get Hamilton back to

930
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 3: be in the slot, which is the best way to

931
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 3: use them is in a lot of ways.

932
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 2: Serious Washington isn't really a strong right right.

933
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 3: They might want it over the top free type of guy. Yeah,

934
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 3: and if one of those two sitting there, that'd be

935
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 3: a fun pairing with Hamilton. Or if you just want

936
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 3: to leave Hamilton where you're at, then you're missing a

937
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 3: slot corner, you know, So one or two two dbs

938
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 3: is definitely in the cards. I think guards their weakest position, though,

939
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 3: yeah I do too. Yeah, mean, just what's their weakest position?

940
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 3: Day one? Right? Right?

941
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 2: Right?

942
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 3: Right, I mean just as a whole. I don't like either.

943
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 2: Guard or he's in fle or not the answer.

944
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 3: If you put Booker there and had those who compete

945
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 3: for the other spot, you feel a lot more comfortable.

946
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 2: Somebody mentioned to me on the you know, the Ravens

947
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 2: did run for two hundred and ninety nine yards against

948
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 2: the Steelers in the playoffs. I understand that. I was there.

949
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,439
Speaker 3: Well, they ran. They ran for a lot of yards

950
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 3: all year.

951
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 2: All year long.

952
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 3: They're good.

953
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 2: Doesn't mean the guards were. You know, one of them

954
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,720
Speaker 2: was McCary and he's gone. Vorheast was initially the starter

955
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 2: Watson job and lost his job to Fallele, who is

956
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 2: below average. You have two Hall of Fame runners. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

957
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,760
Speaker 2: yeah in that backfield. That's why they ran.

958
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 3: Card helps and all the fight ends and their tackle

959
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 3: and Linderbaum's a good player. I mean they've gotten away

960
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 3: with it. Yeah, that doesn't mean that it's not a

961
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:53,720
Speaker 3: position of weakness.

962
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 2: I mean they could certainly be better there.

963
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 3: Absolutely. I think it's one of the weaker pair of

964
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 3: guards in the league right now. Yeah, but I mean

965
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 3: they again, they got away with it. But he got

966
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 3: away with it.

967
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 2: Lamar's Lamar and Derrick Henry. They're both unicorns.

968
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's the beauty of it right.

969
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:13,320
Speaker 2: His pick for the Ravens Donovan Ezerku, the edge rusher

970
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 2: out of Boston College.

971
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 3: It's understandable they have not had a true finisher, top

972
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 3: tier edge guy.

973
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 2: In a long time, but he doesn't passing on Tyler

974
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,399
Speaker 2: Booker is the next pick to the Alliance. I would

975
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,839
Speaker 2: probably take Booker if I were them. I think he's

976
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:29,760
Speaker 2: safer and you can find edges.

977
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, interesting, but I think it's going to be

978
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 3: an edge, a d back, or a.

979
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 2: Guard, just a different way to it. But anyways, that's

980
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 2: going to do it for our number one here on

981
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 2: the drive. Matt and I will be back with our

982
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 2: number two right after this