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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome to the hun Day Texans Radio

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Speaker 1: studio in the broadcast booth.

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Speaker 2: We're all over the place this week. We keep saying

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Speaker 2: it because it's true.

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Speaker 1: And next week two prior to the start of training camp,

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Speaker 1: which is one week from tomorrow, Mark Vandermer and John

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Speaker 1: Harris with you.

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Speaker 2: Welcome into the show.

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Speaker 1: A lot to go over here tonight we have Jonathan

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Speaker 1: Alexander from the Houston Chronicle coming up in the next segment.

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Speaker 1: He's on vacation, but he's joining us anyway because he's

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Speaker 1: that dedicated to talking about your Houston Texans. Also, Jawar Jordan,

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Speaker 1: remember him, not a ton to remember other than draft

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Speaker 1: class of twenty twenty four, got banged up. What's he

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Speaker 1: gonna do in twenty twenty five? He looked pretty good

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Speaker 1: in the offseason practices, So let's see what happens in

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Speaker 1: training camp. And Johnny good evening. How's it going good evening? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Jaar Jordan? I remember it was that last preseason game.

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Speaker 1: Is that the Rams.

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Speaker 3: He was doing some good things in that preseason game

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Speaker 3: and ended up getting banged up at some point in

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Speaker 3: that game. When you go through the flow of the game,

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Speaker 3: you know sometimes if you know, time is not taken

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Speaker 3: when a guy is down.

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Speaker 2: You yeah, like, hey, what happened to him?

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Speaker 3: And well you end up getting banged up and missed,

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Speaker 3: but came back for the last part of this season

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Speaker 3: was practice squad. I'm really excited to see what he

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Speaker 3: does in these preseason games because he seemed a lot

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Speaker 3: more confident when we spoke with him.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 3: And I think that comes across in the interview. Uh

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Speaker 3: and I again, for guys that are undrafted or drafted late,

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Speaker 3: you know that.

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Speaker 2: Desire to prove yourself.

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Speaker 3: I gotta you know, I got to prove myself, you know,

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Speaker 3: especially in what was you know, it was a decently

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Speaker 3: crowded backfield and remains crowded. If you can stand out

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Speaker 3: in any way, shape or form, and maybe there's an injury,

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Speaker 3: who knows, and then you get an opportunity, and before

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Speaker 3: you know it, you got a guy that's contributing in

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Speaker 3: a number of different ways on the team. So looking

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Speaker 3: forward to hearing from Juwar. But yeah, it's all good.

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Speaker 2: We're let's do the daily count.

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Speaker 3: We are a week away on this day next week,

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Speaker 3: we will see dudes that look like Texans football players

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Speaker 3: down in the service level.

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Speaker 2: Well, look, we've been seeing them anyway. I mean, let's

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Speaker 2: stand up.

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Speaker 3: Front with this, but in official capacity, Yeah, I have

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Speaker 3: to be back.

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Speaker 2: They have to be on the twenty second.

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Speaker 1: And the fact that we've seen so many prior to

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Speaker 1: when they have to be back speaks volumes. And we've

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Speaker 1: been talking about this all offseason long. I think it's

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Speaker 1: a big theme of the off season, or maybe it's

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Speaker 1: between the line storyline, and that's where I want to

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Speaker 1: go between the lines storylines of training camp.

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Speaker 2: And I'll give you one and I'll do one.

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Speaker 3: You do.

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Speaker 2: Go on, let's go.

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Speaker 1: Here's the first one. Because everybody talks about the offensive line.

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Speaker 1: We all want to see how the offensive line has

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Speaker 1: configured day to day. There's going to be a lot

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Speaker 1: of reaction to it, a lot of prognostication, projection, whatever.

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Speaker 1: But the between the lines storyline with the old line,

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Speaker 1: I think is the center starting position. Is it going

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Speaker 1: I see him in the building all the time, by

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Speaker 1: start at Ceta and we caught up in our mini

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Speaker 1: camp interviews. And by the way, our Mini camp interviews

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Speaker 1: were great, and I'm not feeling bad about releasing those

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Speaker 1: over time now because Ross Tucker just released as Will

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Speaker 3: He just released the Will Anderson video from Radio Row.

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Speaker 2: I think reached.

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Speaker 1: Somebody's got to help because Sean and Seth were playing

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Speaker 2: At the super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: He kept it evergreen enough, I guess yeah, And our

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Speaker 3: I think it's the I don't want to say it's

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Speaker 3: throughout OTAs we saw Jake Andrews do a lot of

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Speaker 3: with Jake Andrews as long as he continues on the

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Speaker 3: ascent that I that I've seen him. He's healthy, see

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Speaker 3: so is Jared Patterson. Jared Patterson's been around. I saw

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Speaker 3: we've seen that center position. What was it twenty three

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Speaker 3: I guess we're gonna start a rookie and Jared Patterson JP,

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Speaker 2: Rookie, rookie cou center, quarterback. Let's go. And he plays

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Speaker 2: well and then he goes down.

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Speaker 3: In the Carolina game, we're all the way to Michael

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Speaker 3: So injuries have played a role at that position. Hopefully

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Speaker 3: you're not going to hope that these guys can stay

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Speaker 2: There might be, but I got a feeling it's one

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Speaker 1: I think it's one of those three or Scrugs, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: to be a center, I know, but things change and

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Speaker 1: maybe he's a better guard.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Maybe, Look, we don't know how it's gonna be. And

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Speaker 1: you just spelled that out really well. Twenty twenty, he

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Speaker 1: was ripped through four centers.

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Speaker 2: Exactly.

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Speaker 1: You still have a good season, right, a great season

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Speaker 2: Through four centers. Yeah, four Okay, my turn.

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Speaker 3: So we're talking kind of outside the line stories that

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Speaker 1: Between the line storylines. Okay, I'm I want to brand that.

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Speaker 1: It's not bad. Yeah, he's got alliteration there.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna give you a name, and I think I

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Speaker 3: said it to you at the end of last year.

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Speaker 3: I think we missed him more than people let on.

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Speaker 3: tight end position. I think he adds some juice to

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Speaker 3: this offense. And that's Brevin Jordan. I don't think people

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Speaker 3: have been talking about Brevin Jordan. I think he unfortunately

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Speaker 3: He looks cool, but he didn't work out at OTAs

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Speaker 3: you would see him out there who's watching everything. I

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Speaker 3: think just getting him the football. I mean we saw

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Speaker 3: flips it out to Brevin to go seventy six yards

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Speaker 2: Larimy was able to come back in the next.

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Speaker 3: Offensive series didn't even miss a beat. But it was

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Speaker 3: Brevin who made that play because he catches it and

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Speaker 3: he outruns everybody seventy six yards of the end zone.

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Speaker 3: So I think it's a level of big play explosiveness.

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Speaker 3: Just a guy you can you can count on it.

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Speaker 3: I think of games last year where we didn't protect well,

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Speaker 3: what does Brevin bring to the offense. What about that

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Speaker 3: that at some point last year and building got doing anything.

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Speaker 2: Was Brevin.

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Speaker 3: We just just run a little you know, a little

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Speaker 3: of that. I feel like that's something this offense lacked.

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Speaker 3: And I feel like bringing in uh, bringing back Brevin

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Speaker 3: Jordan to go, Kate Stover and Dalton Schultz, Arv Smith

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Speaker 3: But he's got sure soft hands. But Brevan's different from

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Speaker 3: all of them. And I think that gives this offense,

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Speaker 3: gives it some multiplicity with a guy like Brevin. But

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Speaker 3: I don't think anybody's really been talking about prevn. I

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Speaker 3: think when we talk about tight ends, it's just well,

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Speaker 3: you know, we've got Dalton Schultz, and we've got Kate Starver,

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Speaker 3: Hope's gonna step up, and IRV resign and away we

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Speaker 3: go and Luke Lache and we forget hey number nine

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Speaker 2: Well, tie a good thing. It ties into another between

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Speaker 2: the lines thing. Who's the full back? If there is one?

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Speaker 2: Is Yaka gonna make the team?

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Speaker 1: By the way, I saw Yaka biking around the stadium,

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Speaker 1: not in the stadium, on the outside of the perimeter.

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Speaker 1: I saw this guy biking. I thought, I think that's

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Speaker 1: Yakam Johnson, and then I asked him when I saw

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Speaker 1: him a few days later, said, yeah, that was me.

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Speaker 1: I'm biking around nice.

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Speaker 2: Good for him. He's such a unique careful biking in Houston.

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Speaker 1: I don't trust these cars and these people reading their

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Speaker 1: driving at this point because everyone's not paying attention.

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Speaker 2: You know, they're on their phones. It's a disaster waiting

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Speaker 3: That's an off season show that we've got to hit

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Speaker 3: So it's but it's not a line, it's not a

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Speaker 3: And I know a lot of these guys were on

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Speaker 2: That's ridiculous. It will motivate him. Oh, I'd love that, dude.

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Speaker 3: You bring in CJ. Gardner, Johnson. We have no idea

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Speaker 2: The one year deal. He needs to come out here

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Speaker 3: Yep, absolutely, I got a small one go, but I

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Speaker 1: Is going to bring up the you know what, that's

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Speaker 1: As the team reports. One week from today, it's Texans Radio.

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Speaker 1: Back to it here in the Hundai Texans Radio studio,

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Speaker 1: which is a little bit all over the place right

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Speaker 1: now because we are fixing it up. It's Mark vandermir

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Speaker 1: and John Harris with you, and Jonathan Alexander, our friend

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Speaker 1: from the Houston Chronicle, joins us. We've all been out

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Speaker 1: on various stages of leave, Jonathan included, I believe, but

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Speaker 1: we're all back in a week away from players reporting

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Speaker 1: for training camp. So here we go, Jonathan. How's your summer?

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Speaker 2: Ben Howard? Thing's going for you? Overall?

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Speaker 4: It's been great. I'm actually on vacation now, just enjoying.

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Speaker 4: I've deleted Twitter like four days ago, so I haven't

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Speaker 4: been paying attention ever since I've dropped my last story,

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Speaker 4: So it's been good and not having to worry about

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Speaker 4: the NotI vacations that are usually get on a regular basis.

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Speaker 2: So you just would ahead and deleted it and you're

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Speaker 2: gonna reload it for camp.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I reloaded a day before camp as I'm writing

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Speaker 4: my stories and that's when I'll turn it back on EVAM. Now,

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Speaker 4: you know, I feel calm. I feel good and not

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Speaker 4: having to worry about anything.

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Speaker 3: So how do you keep up with news and anything

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Speaker 3: that's happening, Jonathan, Because if you don't get it on Twitter,

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Speaker 3: where do you get it?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I've just been I've actually been reading a lot

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Speaker 4: of news. But I've been going on different websites and

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Speaker 4: just reading what people have. But yeah, I'm not I'm

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Speaker 4: probably not as sub today or quickly as up to

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Speaker 4: date as I would be if I got a Twitter notification.

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Speaker 4: But that's all right. I'm not handling anything right now.

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Speaker 4: Don't expect anything big to happen unless I get a text.

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Speaker 4: So I'm just chilling right now.

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Speaker 1: That's awesome. I have mad respect for that. That's pre

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Speaker 1: two thousand and nine stuff right there, going on websites

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Speaker 1: to get the news. I remember preparing for the show

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Speaker 1: going on Pro Football Talk dot com, the Big Lead

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Speaker 1: dot com. I had all these websites I had to

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Speaker 1: check out before I went on the air, and they

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Speaker 1: aggregated all the stories, and obviously ESPN and the Chronicle

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Speaker 1: and everything else. I was actually reading the paper Chronicle,

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Speaker 1: the physical newspaper were still at that point. Mad respect

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Speaker 1: for you, Jonathan. That's amazing. All right, We've got a

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Speaker 1: few things to go over here. Number one ESPN Top

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Speaker 1: ten quarterback list. Stroud not in the top ten. He's

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Speaker 1: what eleventh. Johnny and Jordan Love was twelve. They were

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Speaker 1: honorable mentioned. They only wanted to go ten, but they

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Speaker 1: had two honorable mentions and Stroud got one of them.

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Speaker 2: Is that a fair rating for CJ. Stroud in your opinion?

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Speaker 4: I don't think it is. I think, you know, when

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Speaker 4: you look at the overall play, even though the statistics

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Speaker 4: weren't as great as they were his rookie season, you know,

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Speaker 4: I didn't think he played bad. I think he had

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Speaker 4: a few bad games, particularly the Packers game, and there

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Speaker 4: were a couple of others, But I didn't think he

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Speaker 4: had an overall bad season worthy of moving him down

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Speaker 4: out of the top ten. I think he's still a

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Speaker 4: top ten quarterback and I think he has a chance

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Speaker 4: to prove that this year, and I think he will.

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Speaker 4: I think he's motivated, It's not by that, but motivated

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Speaker 4: by having a better season than he had last year's.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no question that There's gonna be a lot of

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Speaker 3: eyes on CJ's drive to start training camp, Jonathan, where

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Speaker 3: will your eyes go the first few days of training

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Speaker 3: camp out here at Houston Others Training Center? What will

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Speaker 3: you be looking at? First and foremost? Will it be

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Speaker 3: CJ's drive? Will be the rookie receivers, Will it be

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Speaker 3: the offensive line, will be defense? What will your eyes

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Speaker 3: go to the very first couple of days in training camp.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's really the offensive line, because I

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Speaker 4: feel like they are key to this offense having success. Obviously,

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Speaker 4: the Texans brought in a lot of offensive line players

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Speaker 4: who had to really prove themselves this year. You know

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Speaker 4: a few of them struggled last year, and you know,

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Speaker 4: Demiko and Nicko Siri are banking on the fact that

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Speaker 4: competition will allow these guys to raise their level. So

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Speaker 4: I'll be looking at how this offensive line looks, whether

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Speaker 4: they look like the Calles unit, whether other guys look

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Speaker 4: at somebody little I thought looked better than a lot

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Speaker 4: of people. A lot of fans from the opposing team

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Speaker 4: were getting down on. I thought Lake and Thomason was

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Speaker 4: really steady at left guard, and I think, really that's

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Speaker 4: going to be crucial that interior where they struggled a

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Speaker 4: lot last season.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see how that shapes up as camp gets

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Speaker 1: underway a week from tomorrow with the first practice. It's

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Speaker 1: amazing to say that, but here we are Jonathan the

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Speaker 1: running back situation.

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Speaker 2: We're all eager to see what Joe Mixing situation is.

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Speaker 1: Going into camp and through camp, and then you got Chubb,

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Speaker 1: how much will he be doing? What are you thinking

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Speaker 1: you're going to see it running back? What's your prediction

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Speaker 1: in the early going the running back shuffle that they

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Speaker 1: have right now a lot of people to work with,

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Speaker 1: but health is the big concern among at least a

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Speaker 1: couple of them.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it was kind of similar to last year,

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Speaker 4: you know, Joe Mixing, You know, I recall at the

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Speaker 4: beginning of camp wasn't much of a participant, starting to

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Speaker 4: participating later on you see the offense shift, I could

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Speaker 4: see something similar. I don't know if Nick Shouts gonna

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Speaker 4: get the first team reps. I think that would probably

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Speaker 4: be more of Dare just because of the familiarity, and

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Speaker 4: then of course Damian Pierce has to come back. You know,

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Speaker 4: It'll be interesting to see that rotation play out. How

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Speaker 4: it plays out as Nick gets more familiar with the offense.

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Speaker 4: Is he move up? I think they've got a serious

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Speaker 4: running back battle going in. One player who we might

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Speaker 4: not expect might end up being film depending on how

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Speaker 4: many running bouts they keep on the.

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Speaker 3: Roster, speaking in different positions, that are going to be

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Speaker 3: maybe a more difficult cut than it seems. It feels

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Speaker 3: like tight end Jonathan can go a lot of different

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Speaker 3: directions this year. I've been on record saying I think

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Speaker 3: Kate Stover breaks out this year. You can define breakout

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Speaker 3: however you want to, but I think Kate's going to

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Speaker 3: be a very involved factor in this offense.

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Speaker 2: Still got a.

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Speaker 3: Dalton Schultz, then you've got Brevin Jordan coming back.

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Speaker 4: Then you bring in Luke Lache.

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Speaker 3: You know he's a seventh rounder, but a lot of

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Speaker 3: people were very high on him before injuries kind of

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Speaker 3: impacted him from twenty three and then twenty four those

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Speaker 3: two seasons. When you look at tight end, you look

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Speaker 3: at it as a position of strength or do you think, man,

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Speaker 3: this unit is one injury away from really needing to

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Speaker 3: sign somebody in training camp.

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Speaker 4: How do you look at the tight end position, Jonathan,

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Speaker 4: what they have and how projects go forward. I do

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Speaker 4: think it's a strong tight end group that they remain healthy.

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Speaker 4: I agree with you. I think Ca Stover is going

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Speaker 4: to have a great year. I think he's going to

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Speaker 4: take a huge step. De Nico Ryans remarks how improved

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Speaker 4: he was, and you really saw how he was kind

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Speaker 4: of a safety blanket for c J. Straw when a

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Speaker 4: lot of receivers weren't open at times. I think him

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Speaker 4: and Don shows, especially given the fact that Nick Cayley

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Speaker 4: has an emphasis on tight ends. I think they can

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Speaker 4: be a huge factor in this offense. I think they

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Speaker 4: will be a huge factor in this offense, especially if

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Speaker 4: Jaden Higgins kind of moves along. Now, who makes the team,

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Speaker 4: whether it's whether it's the rookie Luke or whether it's

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Speaker 4: revng and I think that is going to be an

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Speaker 4: interesting competition. Revien didn't participate in OTAs in many campus

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Speaker 4: he continues to work his way back to that injury.

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Speaker 4: Will he be better? Will?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 4: I think that'll be the interesting thing and what it'll

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Speaker 4: come down to in camp.

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Speaker 1: What's your Tank Dell prediction as far as when he's

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Speaker 1: going to play again or if he plays again. I

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Speaker 1: would assume he's going to play again, But is it

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Speaker 1: late this season? Is it twenty twenty six altogether?

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Speaker 4: So I think that's a good question, you know, just

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Speaker 4: giving the severity of his injury. What I do know

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Speaker 4: is that the Texans won't rush him back now if

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Speaker 4: he happens to be healthy, fully healthy and clear, and

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Speaker 4: they need another wide receiver to produce. If he's fully healthy.

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Speaker 4: I think they'll bring him back. But I think we

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Speaker 4: don't know the answer to that unless somebody were to

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Speaker 4: tell us behind the scenes. Now, Tank has, you know,

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Speaker 4: been also media saying how confident he is about that.

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Speaker 4: But I think we fully won't know. The coaching staff

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Speaker 4: doesn't really know, and I think maybe there'll be a

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Speaker 4: more clear picture around late November early December.

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Speaker 3: Johnson I saw a graphic earlier today from the NFL

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Speaker 3: Prime Video account. It said, veteran wide receivers in new

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Speaker 3: places now find this fascinating because all these guys at

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Speaker 3: one point.

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Speaker 4: Were wide receiver.

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Speaker 3: Won for some stretch of time with a particular.

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Speaker 4: Team or former team.

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Speaker 3: Which of these eight wide receivers do you think makes

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Speaker 3: the biggest impact in his new place? So here we

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Speaker 3: go Cooper Cup Seattle, DeAndre Hopkins Baltimore, Tevon Diggs, New England,

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Speaker 3: DK Metcalf Steelers, Deebo, Samuel Washington, George Pickens with Dallas,

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Speaker 3: Davonte Adams with the Rams, and Tyler Lockett goes to

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Speaker 3: the Tennessee Titans. Which receiver of those do you think

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Speaker 3: makes the biggest impact. Texas will play a number of

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Speaker 3: those guys, but which one you think has the biggest

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Speaker 3: impact for his team in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that group is really around the same

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Speaker 4: talent level. But I think if I had to, if

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Speaker 4: I was betting, i'd say DK mckeah, he's gonna be

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Speaker 4: the top receiver over there. They're probably gonna leave Aaron

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Speaker 4: Rodgers is probably gonna leave heavily on DK. I think

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Speaker 4: he'll probably have the best year of all those guys.

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Speaker 4: I think Christian Kirk is gonna have a good year

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Speaker 4: for the Houston Texans though, you know he is. He

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Speaker 4: might be their their secret weapon. You know, obviously they

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Speaker 4: got Nico there, but he's had a history history of injuries.

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Speaker 4: Dandy Higgins is going to be trying to thumb into

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Speaker 4: his own I really believe that CV is gonna rely

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Speaker 4: not only on Nico, which I think Nico may get

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Speaker 4: some double teams. I think they're gonna be opportunities for

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Speaker 4: Christian Kirk there.

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Speaker 1: Do you feel like Higgins and Nico everybody's Healthygins and

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Speaker 1: Nico will be on the field a lot together. And

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Speaker 1: I got to think the answer kind of has to

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Speaker 1: be yes, considering second round pick, guaranteed money, all that stuff.

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Speaker 2: But maybe Nol rises up. Kirk's gonna get a ton

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Speaker 2: of reps. As we all know.

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Speaker 1: The third guy, though, whoever that might be, should be Higgins.

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Speaker 1: Is it Noel, is it somebody else, one of the veterans?

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Speaker 1: Is it Justin Watson? How do you see that working out?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I see Janda Higgins very similar, very in the same senses.

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Speaker 4: I see Kamari Lassiter, a guy who really came one

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Speaker 4: strong and OTAs who could really prove himself as the

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Speaker 4: number two receiver. He's gonna be hard to guard number

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Speaker 4: one because he has great size and he's not so

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Speaker 4: a lot of the big guys, they have good size,

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Speaker 4: they don't move very well, but like Nico Collins, Danda

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Speaker 4: Higgins moves very well. So if he could gets involved,

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Speaker 4: which that was what he was known for at Iowas State,

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Speaker 4: said oho, Ohio State, that was what he was known

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Speaker 4: for at Iowa State, then he can be a really

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Speaker 4: big option for CD Stroud. So I definitely see him

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Speaker 4: getting a lot of playings on them, using a lot

650
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 4: of three wide receiver sins and he's going to be

651
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 4: in contributary I believe.

652
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 3: You almost said Ohio State, which maybe me think of

653
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 3: two other wide receivers that are I've had different stages

654
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 3: in kind of going through two different things with their teams.

655
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 3: You got Garrett Wilson, who signs the four year, one

656
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 3: hundred and thirty million dollar.

657
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 4: Deal with the Jets.

658
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 3: Then you've got Terry McLaurin, who seems to be locked

659
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 3: in a staring contest with Washington's front office.

660
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 4: Hey, Jonathan, comment if you will on the.

661
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 3: Garret Wilson extension and what he got, and b what

662
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 3: do you think happens with Terry McLaren in Washington. He's

663
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 3: been a focal point of their success. I can't see

664
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 3: him getting moved, but they don't seem to be moving

665
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 3: on making the contract extension his way. What do you

666
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 3: think about those two situations.

667
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Teray McLaurin, I think they got to

668
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 4: get him a contract extension, and I think they know that,

669
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 4: and I think they're going to end up having to

670
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 4: pay him because he is a great ad, a really

671
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 4: good number one robe receiver who improved a lot this year,

672
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 4: especially given the fact that he got a better quarterback.

673
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 4: He's obviously Jaden Daniel's number one option, and I think

674
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 4: he'll continue to be that. I can't see the commander

675
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 4: is moving on for him or trying to trade him.

676
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 4: I think this is really the period where a lot

677
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 4: of these negotiations get tense, and he may try to

678
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 4: hold out in camp until the commanders are forced to

679
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 4: give him a deal. As far as Garrett wasn't, I

680
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 4: think he was well deserved. I think Garrett Wilson is

681
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 4: a good wide receiver, still young, and he'll continue to

682
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 4: get better. And you these days, we have to pay

683
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 4: these wide receivers because they are so key to offenses.

684
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 4: So I think it was a well deserved deal for him.

685
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 1: Jonathan. The Texans open it up against the Rams, then

686
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: they have the Bucks. Before you know it, they'll be

687
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: facing the Jacksonville Jaguars. And I want to ask you

688
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: about Trevor Lawrence because this week's take is, Hey, it's

689
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: his third head coach already it's year five, and maybe

690
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: we were all wrong, or we were initially right then wrong,

691
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: whatever the case may be, because third head coach Urban

692
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: Meyer was one of those head coaches total disaster of

693
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,719
Speaker 1: a regime that was we all expected the Peterson thing

694
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: to work better.

695
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 2: Now he's got Liam Cohne quarterback. Friendly I'll put that

696
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 2: in air quotes.

697
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: You tell me, have we misunderstood Lawrence or miss interpreted

698
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: what's going on with his career?

699
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 2: Is that the coach's fault?

700
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: Is it his fault? What do you think is going

701
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: on here? Is there's clearly a higher level to achieve

702
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: for him? Is he going to get there?

703
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 2: How do you feel about the situation?

704
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, A couple of things.

705
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 2: I think.

706
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 4: Number one, I don't believe that the Jaguars have drafted

707
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 4: very well in recent years. I think they have been

708
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 4: a man as coaching wise of Irvin Meyer was a

709
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 4: disaster in the file that's done it. Trevor Lawrence's growth,

710
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,839
Speaker 4: I still think he has a ton of potential. Will

711
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 4: he reach the potential I thought he once had? I

712
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:12,760
Speaker 4: don't believe.

713
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 3: So.

714
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 4: I think he could still be a quality quarterback somewhere

715
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,479
Speaker 4: along the lines of you know, I think a little

716
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 4: bit better than what Kirk Cousins was at his heights.

717
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 4: So I think he'll be better prepared under Liam Kohn,

718
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 4: and I think that he'll have a better season. Now

719
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 4: will he be this great quarterback? I don't know if

720
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 4: he'll reach that, but I think he'll be improved. And

721
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 4: you saw he has the potential to be really good there.

722
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 3: So, Jonathan, the Chargers dropped the new all gold uniform,

723
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 3: not white helmet, but an all gold uniform. Tampa Bay

724
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 3: Buccaneers put out their icy white creepsicles as throwback as

725
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 3: a throwback plus the Buco Bruce helmet. What is your

726
00:34:55,520 --> 00:35:00,040
Speaker 3: favorite alternate jersey don't use the Texans? What's your my

727
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 3: favorite alternate jersey in the league? Is it a throwback

728
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,359
Speaker 3: sort of one? Is it one of these well new

729
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 3: gold from the LA Charters. Which is your favorite alternate

730
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:13,879
Speaker 3: jersey non Texans throughout the league?

731
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,720
Speaker 4: I don't know what it is, but there's something about

732
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 4: I can't remember if it was a Packers jersey or

733
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 4: the Steelers jersey, but there was. Those are like a

734
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 4: brown jersey from one of those teams, and they packs,

735
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 4: I believe. Yeah, I don't know. It's something about that

736
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 4: as simple and as full, that's different. I think that's

737
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 4: my favorite Austenate jersey in my opinion. I also like

738
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,479
Speaker 4: it when the Panthers go all blacks with the black

739
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 4: helmets and black pants and black socks. I think that's

740
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 4: pretty cool as well. So I think those two are

741
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 4: some of my favorites.

742
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 1: Wow, you went Packer throwback, if you went Pittsburgh. The

743
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Bumblebee uniforms the worst they're off. They look like

744
00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 1: bumblebees running around. They have horizontal lines. It's very It's

745
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 1: not a slimming look. I gotta tell you. It's not

746
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: a fast look. It just doesn't work for me and Johnny.

747
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 1: I don't even know the answer to that question. For me,

748
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: I was thinking about it. What all Jersey do I

749
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 1: like with two divisions starting this rivalry look this year?

750
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,919
Speaker 2: And I think that's what you're playing into. It's gonna

751
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 2: be cool.

752
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 1: The Texans don't go yet, so they're going to even

753
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 1: add more of an alternate look in the near future,

754
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: not in twenty twenty five.

755
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 2: So I can't wait for that. Jonathan, you tell me

756
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 2: you're on vacation.

757
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 1: What's better to do on vacation as far as non

758
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: you know, water activities or whatever else you're doing. Maybe

759
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,359
Speaker 1: you're hiking, I don't know what you're doing. But read

760
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 1: a book or binge watch a show that you've missed.

761
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 2: What do you like to do? Oh?

762
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 4: Wow, okay, that is a good question. I haven't really

763
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 4: thought about, but I have been reading a lot more

764
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 4: I've been enjoying reading. I think one of one of

765
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 4: my favorite things to do though, is just chill on

766
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 4: the beach, a quiet beach with not a lot of

767
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 4: people and read a good book. But I also will

768
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 4: watching a bid show on Netflix when I'm when I'm

769
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 4: away from the beach. But I do enjoy reading on

770
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 4: the beach. Give us a show. Yeah, as far as going,

771
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 4: what show? Okay, So the show that I'm currently watching

772
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 4: and I'll never be able to finish because it has

773
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 4: so many seasons, It's Gray's Anatomy. It does have a

774
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:22,280
Speaker 4: lot of seasons.

775
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 2: They're still going? Are they still going?

776
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 4: This is the season twenty one, if I'm not mistaken.

777
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's the longest running other than the Simpsons.

778
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 4: I believe how many years.

779
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 2: Did gun Smoke run? That's that's really a throwback. I mean.

780
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: I went way back, but gun Smoke went on forever

781
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 1: because when I was a kid, it was on and

782
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 1: it started like in black and white era and stuff

783
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,399
Speaker 1: like that, or way way before a lot of great

784
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: shows did so. Anyway, speaking of shows, speaking of shows

785
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: that you bitch, have you watched Quarterback?

786
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 4: I have watched some of Quarterback. I haven't watched the

787
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 4: whole series and haven't picked it up this year. I

788
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 4: need to finish like the second half of Well, actually,

789
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 4: I started watching Receivers last year, so I did. I

790
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 4: did watch the first season the Quarterback, but I haven't

791
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 4: started this season yet.

792
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 2: All right, well, I need to watch it too, Johnny.

793
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 2: So Jonathan said nothing.

794
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: I watched Cobra Kai and then I finished Your Friends

795
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 1: and Neighbors, so I was doing the drama thing.

796
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:24,959
Speaker 2: But believe me, I'll hit on those this week before

797
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 2: camp next week.

798
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,879
Speaker 1: Jonathan, you can't promote anything in the chronicle, I guess,

799
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 1: but I'll read the other stuff of the chronicle.

800
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 4: But what else do you have for us?

801
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 3: Well?

802
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 4: Accept my Astrodome story which I posted last week. Oh yeah,

803
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 4: a couple of a couple of stories on like what

804
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,280
Speaker 4: what happened with it? As the Rodeo and the Texans

805
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 4: negotiate a new lease agreement, we should come probably within

806
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 4: a couple of years, and as well as my tour

807
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 4: of the Astronaut, So please check those.

808
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 1: Very nice, Jonathan Alexander, thank you for being with us

809
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: as always and coming up on the show. Jaward Jordan

810
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,919
Speaker 1: running back. Is he gonna make an impression in camp.

811
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: We'll talk about that and other stuff coming up here

812
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: on Texans All Access. As we embark on the final

813
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 1: segment here tonight on Texans Radio, we'll have an interview.

814
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: We caught up with many players around Mini camp and

815
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 1: this is one of those interviews with Jaward Jordan, this

816
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: time running back part of that twenty twenty four draft

817
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 1: class out of Louisville and got banged up last year.

818
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 2: He's back and with a vengeance. I'm doing the movie

819
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 2: trailer Jirard Jordan back with a Vengeance.

820
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: Well, he wants to make a big impression here in

821
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: training camp and beyond, so let's catch up with him.

822
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 1: He's one of those guys I have these categories and

823
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:45,800
Speaker 1: you know them, impossible not to notice. That's Jawar Jordan,

824
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 1: and he's pleased with the progress so far throughout the offseason.

825
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 5: As sir is going well, I mean is I'm definitely

826
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,439
Speaker 5: taking a next step from last season, you know, going

827
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 5: out with an injury. Definitely didn't want that to happen.

828
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 5: I feel like I was in the right spot to

829
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 5: make the team until the injury happen. So now I'm

830
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 5: just trying to, you know, do my best to stay

831
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 5: healthy and show the coaches that I can't play, and

832
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 5: I'm doing my.

833
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 2: Best mentally physically.

834
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 3: Jure, what's the biggest difference for you from rookie year

835
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 3: to second year. I mean, obviously we haven't got the

836
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 3: training camp in all that. You know, you get to

837
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 3: run against the eleven guys trying to tackle you. But

838
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 3: in your in your mind and your body, what's kind

839
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 3: of the biggest difference from your one to year two.

840
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 5: I think I was just so starstruck that the fact

841
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 5: I was here, you know, living in my dreams my

842
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 5: first year this year. You know, I know I deserve

843
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,359
Speaker 5: to be here. I know I got here for a reason.

844
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 5: I know God put me here for a reason. So

845
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 5: I feel more confident physically and mentally. I feel like

846
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 5: I could make a difference for this team. I feel

847
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 5: like I'm one of the best players out there, and

848
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 5: you know, I just gotta put it all together.

849
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Speaker 1: Before we get to training camp and the pads come on.

850
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: What's it like in offseason practices for you? You know

851
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: you're not gonna get tackled. You know they really can't

852
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: come after you. So what is that like running the

853
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: ball in those situations?

854
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 5: Honestly, for me, I just practice how you know, as

855
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 5: if we were to play in pass you know, run

856
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:18,800
Speaker 5: through arm tackles, carry the ball the right way, protect

857
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,800
Speaker 5: the ball. I just approach it as if you know,

858
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 5: we're in camp season.

859
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 3: Or how long does it take for a running backs

860
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 3: body to become callous in a sense to kind of

861
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 3: the physical nature of the game.

862
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 2: I mean, people talk about running backs, they take a

863
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 2: lot of hits.

864
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 3: You carry it two hundred times in a year, more

865
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Speaker 3: than likely you're gonna have two hundred hits on your body.

866
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Speaker 3: Plus how long does it kind of take for your

867
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 3: body to get accustomed to that? Or do you never

868
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 3: get accustomed to it? You just try and get your

869
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 3: body ready from week to week.

870
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: Uh.

871
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 5: For me, you know, I've always been a physical guy,

872
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 5: never been scared of contact. But like you say, it

873
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 5: does come down to.

874
00:41:58,280 --> 00:41:58,839
Speaker 2: Week to week.

875
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 5: You gotta straight, you gotta just have the heart to

876
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 5: you know, keep going and yeahs week the week.

877
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 1: How is the pass protection part of the game? How

878
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 1: difficult is that to learn at the NFL level? Because

879
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: I know it's important to them. You are, so what

880
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: about that phase?

881
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, it's definitely one of the priority for me

882
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 5: the other running backs to protect quarterback, and I think,

883
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,760
Speaker 5: I mean, I've always been a guy the love pass protecting.

884
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 5: You know, they they mistakenly think I don't want pass

885
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 5: protected just because of my size, But you know I've

886
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 5: always been sticking my face in there and you know,

887
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 5: do what I gotta do to have good technique and

888
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:39,240
Speaker 5: protect the quarterback.

889
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 2: You are from a return game perspective.

890
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 3: Something you did at Louisville and do it all the time,

891
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 3: but you did it and when you did do it,

892
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 3: you exploded on it. Kickoff rules are now changed kickoffs

893
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 3: or touchbacks go to the thirty five, so it's probably

894
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 3: gonna be more returns. Where do you kind of fit

895
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 3: in that? Do you want to be back there and

896
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 3: kickoff returns? Is that something you feel like you could

897
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 3: be successful with as well?

898
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, for sure, one hundred percent. I feel like

899
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 5: I can make a difference there. Any special team unit

900
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 5: they need me to play in, I feel I can

901
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 5: make a difference. But as far as returning, I definitely

902
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 5: have that ability to take one home.

903
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 3: Along those lines, you are a lot of when guys

904
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 3: come here and their stars in college, especially running backs

905
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,399
Speaker 3: don't play a lot of special teams, maybe return, which

906
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 3: you did. How much did you do special teams at

907
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 3: Louisville And how long did it take for you to

908
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:25,280
Speaker 3: kind of go, hey, wait a second.

909
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 2: That's another piece I can add.

910
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 3: If I want to be on special teams, I want

911
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 3: to be in this team, I can go be on

912
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 3: special teams and make some players on special teams. How

913
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 3: do you kind of look at teams that in that way?

914
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 3: Did you play the much at Louisville other than returning?

915
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 2: Other than return?

916
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 5: And know, my first year at Louisville I actually did kickoff,

917
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 5: but that was just for one season. But my first

918
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:46,800
Speaker 5: season here was kind of a rude awaken them, just

919
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 5: knowing that, you know, you got to get on the

920
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 5: teams to stick around. And so after my first year

921
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 5: I kind of embraced special teams a little bit more,

922
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 5: talking to coach Frank, just working my technique, doing what

923
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 5: I gotta do the practice, and just embracing that aspect

924
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 5: of the game.

925
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:05,399
Speaker 2: I got World War for it. You are all right.

926
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 1: We always talk about training camp heat and humidity. You

927
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:12,320
Speaker 1: played high school ball in Arizona, So how bad is

928
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: that compared to this. It's a dry heat, they say,

929
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: But Man, I've been out there and one hundred ten

930
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: degrees is one hundred ten degrees.

931
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 2: How do you handle that? What is that like versus this?

932
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 5: Honestly, what I say was playing in Arizona when it's

933
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 5: one hundred and ten plus is different. But here the

934
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 5: humidity is too much.

935
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 2: It's a lot. It's really hot. When it's humid, it

936
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 2: adds to it. It makes it worse.

937
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 5: But I'll say playing in one hundred and ten plus

938
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 5: is also crazy.

939
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, crazy.

940
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 3: So Christian Kirk comes here from Arizona. We're seeing a

941
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 3: lot more guys come out of the state of Arizona.

942
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,760
Speaker 3: I feel like it's maybe one of the more underrated

943
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 3: states for high school football. You played it, what's it

944
00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 3: like playing high school football Arizona? Because it feels like

945
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 3: they're a lot more dudes coming out of that state

946
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 3: playing college football and NFL ball. Yeah.

947
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 5: So when I move, I'm originally from New York. Yeah,

948
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 5: so when I moved to high school to Arizona, I

949
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 5: didn't know too much about it. I just knew it

950
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 5: was a better opportunity for me and my family to

951
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 5: get looked at. Yeah, and it's crazy that you mentioned

952
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 5: Christian Kirk when we first moved Christian Kirk, or when

953
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 5: we first moved to Arizona, Christian Kirk was like that

954
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 5: guy that was getting recruited, and so that was the

955
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 5: first guy that I noticed that was getting looked at

956
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 5: high school. And so I watched his highlights all the time.

957
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 5: And it's cool to you know, just being on the

958
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,800
Speaker 5: team with him. You know, you got Johnny Johnson. He

959
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,439
Speaker 5: played at the my rival school. So it's cool seeing

960
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 5: more guys coming out of Arizona.

961
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, very cool. All right, Jaare, thanks a lot for

962
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 2: joining us. We appreciate it.

963
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:50,919
Speaker 5: Appreciate you guys.

964
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: There's j Are Jordan running back part of a very thick,

965
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 1: deep running back room. We'll see how it all goes

966
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: when Treny Camp begins one week from tomorrow. Back tomorrow

967
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,439
Speaker 1: with the full show. Thanks so much for listening. Area

968
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 1: forty five is on the way next. Have a great night,

969
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 1: Go Texans.