1 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome to episode fifty three of the 2 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: Hammer Territory Podcast. I am your host, Brad Rowland, coming 3 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: to you on a Saturday night in late July, and 4 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 1: I am joined as I always am, by Scott Coleman. 5 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: Scott recording on Saturday. Why are we doing that? Basically 6 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: because time has no meaning around the deadline. 7 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 2: Hey, Brad, that is right as of recording, we are 8 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 2: less than seventy two hours away from the trade deadline. 9 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 2: So we maybe aren't a twenty four to seven operation 10 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 2: here on the Hammer Territory Podcast, but we are pretty close, 11 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 2: especially this time of the year. But we did want 12 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 2: to give a little bit of content, share some takes 13 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 2: on a fantastic performance today from Spencer Schwellenbach, talk a 14 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 2: little bit of trade deadline stuff, and who knows, Brad, 15 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 2: maybe within ten minutes we'll be scrapping all of this 16 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 2: for a trade. 17 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're definitely tempting the baseball trade guys, but that's 18 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: also kind of intentional. We will react when we need 19 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: to react. The deadline. If people are not paying attention 20 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: to this is Tuesday at six pm Eastern time, and 21 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: again right now, just a timestamp at this time of year. 22 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: We're recording at like eight twenty pm Eastern on Saturday nights, 23 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: and we'll come back to trade stuff at the end 24 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: of the show, just in case something happens or it 25 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: doesn't happen between now and then. But you teed it 26 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 1: up act we should say this. We were part of 27 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: the Foul Territory Network. In fact, there was a new 28 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: show launched on this network. Unfortunately for Brace fans it's 29 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: the Phillies Show. But we do support our friends at 30 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: Foul Territory. You could hate listen to them. I know 31 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: that's what we'll be doing, right, Scott, just hate listening 32 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: to the Philly Show. 33 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I probably won't be tuning in all the time, 34 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 2: but it really is cool. We were the second show 35 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 2: for folks who don't know we at Hammering Territory, where 36 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 2: the second show team show to launch from the Ethoul 37 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 2: Territory network of shows. They have since added a Chicago 38 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,519 Speaker 2: Cubs and now the Phillies. So really cool to see 39 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 2: the team grow. And yeah, who knows, maybe in two 40 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 2: months from now we'll be doing a crossover episode to 41 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 2: preview playoff series. 42 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: That would be certainly not a bat scenario given the 43 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,519 Speaker 1: way things have gone recently for the Braves, but please 44 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: go ahead and subscribe to our podcast help to feed 45 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: our families. I'm a single man, but nobody else is 46 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: on this podcasts Scott's Mary, Everybody's Everybody's got family, So 47 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: help feed our families by subscribing to the podcast. Tell 48 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 1: your friends about the show and we'll dive in now. 49 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: So Scott, WA's start with the bad stuff real fast, 50 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: get it out of the way. Friday's game was pretty dismal. 51 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: Our friends Steven and Sean recorded on Thursday. We hoped 52 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 1: our thoughts or something that we thought that might be 53 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: the rock bottom of sorts, and it was not. Friday 54 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: night was really brutal. The Raves lost eight to four 55 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: to the That's that was their sixth consecutive loss for 56 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: the first time since twenty seventeen. You and I had 57 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: a podcast back then, but it's been a long time. Also, 58 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 1: there was the first time the Braves were filled to 59 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: their first place in the third place, I should say 60 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 1: in the Nationally East in more than two full years. 61 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:21,959 Speaker 1: And weirdly, the Braves had a lead actually in this game, 62 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: and then Charlie Morton, my guy. Unfortunately the old Man 63 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: didn't have it in the third inning and it was 64 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: lights out from there. So it'll be short, but we 65 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: have to react to that game in some fashion because 66 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 1: it was it was ugally. 67 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 2: Now, let's hope that that was rock bottom for this team. 68 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 2: And everyone was kind of joking that after the disastrous 69 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 2: loss on Thursday night with the failed suicide squeeze attempt 70 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 2: and then Ramon Loriano overrunning a ball, and I mean, 71 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 2: there was just all kinds of train wreck in that 72 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 2: game on Thursday. 73 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: Everyone was like, I had I have to laugh at 74 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: that just again by well, because you and I didn't 75 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: talk about it on this form. Loreano, buddy, that was 76 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: a rough half hour for a moon. We have to 77 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: say that was I think Steve and Shan did a 78 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: justice on Thursday, but we should at least sick again 79 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: from our respective men. It was rough anyway. 80 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was about as pathetic of a Raves game 81 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 2: that I have watched in years probably, you know. And 82 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 2: then Friday night things started off well, you know, Adam 83 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 2: Duvall has hit pretty well in New York in this series, 84 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 2: gave the team an early lead, but then holy smokes, Brad, 85 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 2: things went downhill fast for Charlie Morton but without even 86 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 2: giving up a hit. The bases were loaded with nobody out, 87 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 2: an unfortunate air by Austin Riley, and then a hit 88 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 2: by pitch for America's favorite game, and then a four 89 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 2: pitch walk and it was like, holy smokes, here we go. 90 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 2: And then three home runs in a span of about 91 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 2: five minutes of real time, and the game was over. 92 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 2: I told my wife, let's go somewhere for dinner. I 93 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 2: don't want to watch this, and mercifully I did not 94 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 2: have to watch anything after the third inning. Just a 95 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 2: frustrating loss, one that saw the Braves fall into third 96 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 2: place in the division, which is kind of I mean, 97 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 2: who could have seen this coming four months ago when 98 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 2: we were doing the preview podcast for the season. It 99 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 2: has just been such a tough go lately, and thankfully, 100 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 2: at least for one day, the bleeding has stopped with 101 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 2: a fantastic start from Spencer Schwellenbach on Saturday. 102 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's all we need to talk about with Friday, 103 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: So let's focus on Saturday. And you wrote this. I 104 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 1: will credit you for saying this, but I'm gonna ask 105 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: you if you believe it was it the most important, 106 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: slashed best start of the season for any Brave starter, 107 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: because that's a pretty high bard to clear given Chris 108 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: Sale this season, but Schwellenbach is certainly on the short 109 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: list of the best outings of the year. It seems like, 110 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: without a doubt, and the fact that the Braves were 111 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: coming off six straight losses, sure maybe on a performance level, 112 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: there might have been a better performance or two this year. 113 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: Max Freed had a couple of complete games, including a 114 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: Maddox where he threw nine innings of less than one 115 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: hundred pitches, which is so hard to do. Chris Sale 116 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 1: has had some complete gems, but man, I mean for 117 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 1: a rookie to step up on Saturday afternoon when the 118 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: team absolutely needed him was pretty big. I mean, you 119 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 1: can't overstate how important of a win that was today. 120 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: And sure they're going to play again on Sunday, and 121 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: it's just one out of one hundred and sixty two, 122 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:30,799 Speaker 1: but just to have this little bit of a breather, 123 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: a four nothing win on Saturday from Schwellenbach. There was 124 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 1: also some encouraging signs offensively from Matt Olsen, Marcelo Zuna, 125 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: Eddie Rozzario. 126 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 2: It really was just an enjoyable baseball game and one 127 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 2: that will hopefully get the Braves back on the right track. 128 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 1: That's right. And look, we have to dive in to 129 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 1: the Schwellenbach experience a little bit here, because not only 130 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: was he great today and you and I have been 131 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 1: praising him for a while, but I mean the way 132 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: he did it, and also his recent work beyond today. 133 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: I mean some of these numbers, even for the season 134 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: he had a couple of I got really was only 135 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:08,919 Speaker 1: one rough star. I think it was his second, his 136 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: second started in his career. I think was the was 137 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: the one that was really kind of ugly early on. 138 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: But for the season now, his his FIP is experpt 139 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: a in the mid threes. His peripherals are fantastic. And 140 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: then the month of July, Scott, this is insane. Twenty 141 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: six innings and e ray of two point zero eight. 142 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: And here's the money stat twenty eight strikeouts and one walk. 143 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: Ooh baby, that is a it's four starts. You don't 144 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: want to go absolutely nuts. And we're not trying to 145 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: say he's gragmatics, but it is. We liked him before 146 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: the number starts to turn around. Like the peripheral stuff 147 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: is already looking good pretty early on, he had some 148 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: like third time through the order issues his first couple starts, 149 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: but man, he has been truly ludicrous, and I will 150 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: admit this now on the podcast. I think you would 151 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: agree with me. If the Braves didn't win today, you 152 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: and I would not be recording right now. As far 153 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: as the i'm a pre trade, pre everything else that 154 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: they had lost in ugly fashion today, we would have 155 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: be doing this podcast. And so I guess it's fair 156 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: to say that Schwellenbach personally delivered content to Bracemans. 157 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 2: It is a stone cold lock that you and I 158 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 2: would not be recording on a Saturday evening. 159 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: With no trades. 160 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 2: Yet. Yeah, I can say with absolute every fiber in 161 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 2: my body that we would not be recording short of 162 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 2: a trade. You know, I think with Schwellenbach, even though 163 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 2: the results early on this season were not terrific, there 164 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 2: were so many things in his profile that were really encouraging. 165 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 2: A ton of strikes being thrown, not issuing walks, which 166 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 2: is so dang important for young pitchers, or really just 167 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 2: all pictures, but especially for players coming up. And you 168 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 2: talked about his numbers in July. I mean, the Braves 169 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 2: really need Schwellenbach to step up with Max Freed down 170 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 2: for who knows how long. Charlie Morton really all season 171 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 2: long has been a bit of a rollercoaster, and for 172 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 2: as good as Chris Sale and Ronaldo Lopez have been, 173 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 2: you cannot expect them to go out there and be 174 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 2: perfect every fifth or sixth day. Really, just Schwellenbach across 175 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 2: the board. It is so hard not to be bullish 176 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 2: on him. And I think what I'm probably most impressed with, 177 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 2: aside from the fact that this guy only has like 178 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:21,959 Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty professional innings under his belt since 179 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 2: being drafted a couple of years ago, it's that he 180 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 2: has five or six very legitimate pitches that he can 181 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 2: seemingly go to whenever he needs it. That is so 182 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 2: impressive for a player his age. And it's not like 183 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 2: he's just throwing a you know, his splitter just for 184 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 2: the heck of it, or a curveball every now and 185 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 2: then just for the heck of it. It feels like 186 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 2: he really is pretty comfortable throwing five or six pitches 187 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 2: on any given night. Yeah, you pull the numbers for today, 188 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 2: I mean he threw twenty eight sliders, twenty one fastball, 189 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 2: seventeen cutters, ten sinkers, eight splitters, and five kurveballs in 190 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 2: today's start, so you don't often see six pitch des nations. 191 00:09:57,800 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 2: And yeah, some of that stuff can overlap, and that's 192 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 2: immediate numbers after the game and all that. I'm not 193 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 2: saying he's going to throw that kind of you know, 194 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 2: variety all the time, but it's one of the reasons 195 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 2: why I know the prospect guys that you and I trust, 196 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 2: Garrett Spain, Gara Vi, Dak, Matt Powers, the guys who 197 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 2: came from Battery Power, the national guys as well. Like 198 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 2: you know, I talked to Garrett on this podcast a 199 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 2: couple of months ago before people knew who he was, 200 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 2: who Silmok was, and he was someone he threw out 201 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:23,599 Speaker 2: there as like a guy who might be maybe not 202 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 2: quite the high high high high ceiling guy with in 203 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 2: terms of like raws tools, but I think he called 204 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 2: him like the most MLB ready guy in the system, 205 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 2: and that proved to be accurate. Shouts to Garrett for that. 206 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,319 Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean Schwallenbach, I don't know if you 207 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 2: can bank on him having six to once right out 208 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 2: to walk ratio and peripherals in the mid threes, because 209 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 2: if that's real, you know I'm talking. I mean we're 210 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 2: having different, different conversation. Like the way that he's pitched 211 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:49,959 Speaker 2: since his second start is I don't want to throw 212 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 2: the I'm not going to use the ace word, but 213 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 2: like he's pitching like a like a second or third 214 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 2: starter and in rotation where he really only has to 215 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 2: be the fourth or fifth and on this team right now, 216 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 2: and that's a huge luxury because I mean, the free 217 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 2: thing will come back to it later on. Like there's 218 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 2: maybe a little bit of positivity on Max, but Max 219 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 2: or no Max. They've needed Schwellenbach to kind of stem 220 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 2: the tide. And you know you gave up the numbers 221 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 2: a few days ago when you and I talked last 222 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 2: about how bad the Braves have been when their big 223 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 2: four has not been pitching, and really the only exception 224 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 2: to that's Ben Schwellenbach. They've actually been pretty good when 225 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 2: he pitches, because he's been pretty good and even with him, 226 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 2: even with the offense kind of struggling, he's been that 227 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 2: good to kind of give them a fiing chance every night. 228 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 2: And when he pitches, it does not feel like you 229 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 2: were watching a rookie out there and one that had 230 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:39,199 Speaker 2: very very minimal experience in the minor leagues because as 231 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 2: a reminder, he was someone who had Tommy John surgery 232 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 2: right after being drafted. So Schwellenbachi, he's not like he's 233 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 2: a twenty six year old who has a ton of 234 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 2: experience in the miners and has had a cup of 235 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 2: coffee here and there over the years. I mean, this 236 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 2: kid is learning on the fly and doing a fantastic job. 237 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 2: And wherever the Braves season ultimately ends up, whether it's 238 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 2: deep into October or an early flame out in the playoffs, 239 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 2: or even missing the playoffs altogether, and god, let's hope not, 240 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:13,439 Speaker 2: Schwellenbach is a huge reason why this team is going 241 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 2: to ultimately get wherever they're going to be. 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You know, 270 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 1: I'm sure I will be accused of a little bit 271 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: of bias here, and I'll own that I've been noting 272 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: that Matt Olsen is showing some signs even before he 273 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: had a little bit of a breakout the last couple 274 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 1: of days, sitting the ball hard. We mentioned that the 275 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: results were truly dire, so there's no there's no getting 276 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: around that. But last four games, six hits from out 277 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:09,719 Speaker 1: Olsen and a home run today. I don't want to 278 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: speak too soon, Scott, but it would be nice if 279 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 1: he was himself because there was a whole discussion I'm 280 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: not sure if you saw it with some of the 281 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: smart people that I think you and I kind of 282 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: trust around the Braves and just more analytical folks talking about, like, hey, 283 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: all the noise around this team. This is not like 284 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: an original thought necessarily, but all the noise around this 285 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: team if they get a player or two in the 286 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: next week or so at the deadline, if the guys 287 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: just play like they're supposed to play, and you know, 288 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: the headliners there would be Olsen, Riley, Ozzy when he 289 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: gets back, Ozuna, Harris when he gets back, Murphy, Darnol, etcetera. 290 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: Like if the guys are just the guys again, it's 291 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: like easy to forget that. With how bad it's been, 292 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: and Olsen perhaps at the head of the class because 293 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: he's having the worst season of all those guys compared 294 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: to his normal baseline. Him being himself again would just 295 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: not be a small thing. It would be an absolutely 296 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: massive thing. And I'm not going to declare that that's 297 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: happening now, but the signs are starting to be there. 298 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, really cocouraging a couple of days for Matt, and 299 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 2: even before the results started to show up, just after 300 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 2: the trade debt or after the All Star Game, rather, 301 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 2: Matt had a handful of baseballs that he was crushing 302 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 2: and they just happened to find a glove. And when 303 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 2: a guy is in the middle of an oh for 304 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 2: thirty skid or whatever he was in, nobody wants to hear, oh, 305 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 2: he's has bad luck, or oh that should have been 306 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 2: a hit but it wasn't. Because it's the end of 307 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 2: the day. These people are paid millions of dollars to 308 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 2: get hits and be productive. But you're absolutely right. If 309 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 2: the Braves are going to figure this thing out and 310 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 2: get back to their winning ways and make the postseason, 311 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 2: they need their stars to play like stars, especially knowing 312 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 2: that they don't have a couple of the very best 313 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 2: on the roster, and no matter what they do with 314 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 2: the trade deadline in the next seventy two hours, nobody 315 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 2: can come in and do what Matt Olson can do 316 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 2: when he is going right, when he is a top 317 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 2: four MVP candidate just a year ago, when he is 318 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 2: capable of setting a franchise record in home runs, and 319 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 2: nobody's going to come on and say it's all roses 320 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 2: now for Matt and he's figured it out and full 321 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 2: steam ahead. But it really has been encouraging the last 322 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 2: few days to see what he's been able to do. 323 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 2: And the fact that he hit a ball to dead 324 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 2: center today or maybe left center is encouraging as well, 325 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 2: I thought. Jeff Frankcor on the broadcast the last couple 326 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 2: of nights, had some interesting insight where he felt like 327 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 2: mechanically Matt Olsen was out of whack, where he was 328 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 2: really getting ahead of himself and committing too early and 329 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 2: becoming basically pull the ball or bust. And while it 330 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 2: was just wanted bat today, the fact that Matt was 331 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 2: able to line the ball over the left center field 332 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 2: wall at City Field was hopefully a good sign of 333 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 2: things to come. 334 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: I'm overwhelmed by all the part few stuff here, Scott. 335 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: I'm having a bit of a meltdown here as we're 336 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: talking about Frank corn Olsen and me talking about them. 337 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on there. 338 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 2: But as a very very important note for all of 339 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 2: the listeners, there is a top three in the power 340 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 2: rankings of Parkview High School. Number one Brad Rowland, number 341 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 2: two Medals, and number three Jeff frank Corps. You will 342 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 2: never be dethroned, at least in my book, Brad. 343 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 1: The well, yeah, and your book in your book alone. 344 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: Let's not through Parkview anymore. I will get off on 345 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: several tangents that we start doing that, but I just 346 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: want to own my bias as to go to the 347 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: same high school. Although I'm I'm much older than that. 348 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 1: Frank Core is older than I am. I will say, 349 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: I am. I'm younger than Jeffrank Corp, but I'm older 350 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 1: than Medals. 351 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 3: In my lot. 352 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,919 Speaker 2: Do they have your like picture in Jersey hanging up 353 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 2: anywhere at Parkview? Because if not, we have to change that. 354 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: I would guess no, but they do not. I am 355 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 1: not on the tier those guys anyway. Yeah, just noting 356 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: that Olson needs to come alive. We've said that a lot, 357 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 1: but he's starting to show some signs. O Zoon has 358 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: been awesome. He had a home his thirtieth home runs today, 359 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: not a small thing. In late July. He's been incredible. 360 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 1: And then Rosario anything to get there as a bonus, 361 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: you know, coming up. We should always know what they 362 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: play again on Sunday afternoon. People probably listen to this 363 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: podcast after that game, during it, before it whatever. They 364 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:04,439 Speaker 1: play against the Mets again in the rubber match of 365 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: that series, and then they go to Milwaukee for three 366 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: and then four at home against Miami after that. But 367 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 1: of course, the headliner, even beyond the incredible work of 368 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 1: Schwellenbach on Saturday, is the deadline is looming on Tuesday, 369 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 1: six pm Eastern. One of the reported targets, I think 370 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:25,360 Speaker 1: it was Steven and Shawan nailed this. Whenever a guy 371 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: gets actually reported in the Price of Interest, it doesn't 372 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 1: often happen because the Braves don't leak very well. But 373 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: zach Eflin was noted. He's off the board. He's been traded, 374 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 1: not to the Braves, not really anything like rumor wise, 375 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: it's been out there in typical Braves fashion. I willso though. 376 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 1: As we were starting to record this, John Morossi, I 377 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: believe Fox and other places reported the following quote, The 378 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 1: Braves are not expected to acquire an Impact starter before 379 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: Tuesday deadline, and part because they believe Max Freed will 380 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: return from the IL relatively soon. End quote. I don't 381 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: know about you, Scott Rosie, all due respect, is not 382 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: Ken Rosenthal. He's not Jeff Passon. He gets some things 383 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,120 Speaker 1: every once in a while. But the more interesting thing 384 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: for me in that report is the fact that Max 385 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: Freed might be back. And again I quote relatively soon. 386 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 1: The range was wide there. We just got down on 387 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 1: the podcast when we when you and I last talked. 388 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: But can I go ahead and get the chip carry 389 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 1: line now? Like adding Max Freed is like making a trade. 390 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 1: I don't know that'll be said by somebody at some point. 391 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 2: Well, and let's hope that John MURRIERSI is right. I mean, 392 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 2: there's no replacing or not adding a picture like Max Freed. 393 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 1: Even if they were to get somebody, it's not gonna 394 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: be Max Free level. We kind of know that already. 395 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: I feel like people should already know that logically. But 396 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: in case you're wondering. I don't think the Braids are 397 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,439 Speaker 1: gonna be going out and signing. I'm not signing, But 398 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: I guess Blake Snell's available, that got reported. Maybe he's 399 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 1: maybe he's Max Freed level. 400 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 3: I don't know. 401 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure there's always a couple of starters that 402 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,679 Speaker 2: would help move the needle. But similarly to what we 403 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 2: just talked about with the lineup, even if the Braves 404 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 2: go out and make a trade or two to bolster 405 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 2: the team offensively, they are ultimately going to go as 406 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 2: far as their stars are going to take them. And 407 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 2: that's the same case for the rotation with Sale and 408 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 2: Freed and then Lopez and Morton and Schwellenbach filling in. 409 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 2: Perhaps a J. Smith Shauver will be back in the 410 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 2: mix at some point over the next week as well. 411 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 2: But you know, to hear from a national reporter that 412 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 2: the Braves are not expected to add an impact starter 413 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 2: makes sense. I think at this point you just kind 414 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 2: of have to hope that Max comes back. I'm not 415 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 2: sure that you really just have the ammunition to go 416 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 2: out and get into a bidding war for one of 417 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 2: the few impact starters out there, because this is not 418 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 2: breaking any news, but they really need to add an outfielder, 419 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 2: and if somehow there's a way to add a shortstop 420 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 2: as well, then obviously you have to have that conversation. 421 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, man, you just 422 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 2: have to hope that Max is in a couple of weeks, 423 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 2: and so far the team has said all of the 424 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 2: right things. He does not appear to be a super 425 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 2: serious injury at this point. But as we kind of 426 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,880 Speaker 2: talked about right after the injury was announced, anytime you're 427 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 2: talking about a nerve issue in the elbow, you just 428 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 2: kind of have to hold your breath and hope it 429 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 2: doesn't take too long. 430 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't know, and I'm not trying to pile 431 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: U Morosi. I would assume he's not winging it to 432 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: say that Freed someone probably told him the expetition is 433 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 1: that he's back rolling to so soon. That does not 434 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: mean it's going to happen. I don't think he's making 435 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: that up. At the same time, though, so there's there's 436 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 1: some nuance there, and the Braves don't leak, but they 437 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 1: don't they have no incentive to tell him that without 438 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: kind of believing it on some level. And look, I 439 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: would say this, like you kind of alluded to it 440 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: there too. I don't think either one of us expected 441 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: them to impact to acquire a quote impact starter, no 442 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 1: matter what happened with Freed. But I do think that 443 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: if they suddenly knew that Max was out for the season, 444 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: they would trade for a starter, but it wouldn't probably 445 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: be a guy that I would call it impact starter, 446 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like there's some nuance there 447 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: between us two things. 448 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, that jibs, and they may still go out and 449 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 2: add a low end innings eater. 450 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: Drew Smiley, Drew Smiley, Drew Smile, I'm just kidding, get it? 451 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, that that's your man, Yes he is. Yeah, 452 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 2: I mean, we'll see what the next three days hold. 453 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 2: I think we have just preached for years on this 454 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 2: podcast about the importance of depth and really, once rosters 455 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 2: are locked as of six oh one pm Eastern Time 456 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 2: on Tuesday afternoon, the braves have who the Braves have. 457 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 2: And while it may feel like, oh, you don't need 458 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 2: to add X, Y and Z, you never know because 459 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:49,479 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, if you have an injury, you 460 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 2: can get thin in a hurry. I do think if 461 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 2: the Braves feel confidently that Max is going to be 462 00:22:56,400 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 2: back sooner rather than later. The rotation is fine. I 463 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 2: think you have six starters quite honestly, with Smith Shauver 464 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 2: that you feel good enough about. I guess Bryce Elder 465 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 2: is your seventh's that's not going to kill you. 466 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: I mean, you got just just to lay it out. 467 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 1: There's a good point that you're making. Like you got 468 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: aj who's supposed to be like ready to go pitch today. 469 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 1: Pitch fine. Also, you got Elder, who I know. Look, 470 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 1: I'm not the older guy, but Elder is a major 471 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: league quality pitcher. He's not great, but he's fine. And 472 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 1: by the way, we shouldways know him. Anderson's a guy 473 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: that people, I know fans probably like too much, fans 474 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 1: by expecting too much from him. But the Braves wouldn't 475 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: be terrified to throw him out there in a game 476 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: in September if they had to. 477 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 2: Right, And you can be selective, or hopefully the Braves 478 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 2: can be selective. You know, if Bryce Elder or Ian 479 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 2: Anderson go out there and start a Sunday afternoon game 480 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 2: against the very terrible Miami Morlands, who are selling everything 481 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 2: at the deadlines right now, you can probably withstand that 482 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 2: and a quick note on Ian Anderson from the Prospect 483 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 2: Guys over at Battery Power some encouraging news that his 484 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 2: velocity was up a little bit. In his most recent 485 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:13,239 Speaker 2: start with Gwinnett, his velocity had been down, which is 486 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,679 Speaker 2: not a surprise necessarily given that where he is in 487 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 2: his recovery from Tommy John. But the fact that he 488 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 2: saw a one to two mile an hour jump across 489 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,439 Speaker 2: the board on his stuff in his most recent rehab 490 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 2: appearance was encouraging because without that, I'm just not sure 491 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,959 Speaker 2: he's going to be able to make an impact this season. 492 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 2: But if the Villo continues to trend in the right direction, 493 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,919 Speaker 2: then maybe we could see Ian at some point in 494 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 2: August or September. 495 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I agree with what you said a minute ago. 496 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 1: It would not surprise me if the Braves traded for 497 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 1: an arm, but an arm could be a boring arm. 498 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,919 Speaker 1: It would not be a high level guy probably, and 499 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: we've covered it. But if anybody's new to the podcast, 500 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: just in the last couple of days, we have done 501 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,719 Speaker 1: a lot of pre deadline content, especially during the All 502 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,400 Speaker 1: Star break. Those are still listenable right now. The overall 503 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: themes to the podcast are still very relevant talking about 504 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 1: the outfield, talking about shortstop pitching, et cetera. The Braves 505 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: could add anywhere other than a couple of positions and 506 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: it wouldn't be a huge surprise. They're not gonna trade 507 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: for a corner for a corner infielder, I think it's 508 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 1: pretty safe to say, or probably a catcher. Everything else 509 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: is kind of on the table on some level. Yeah, 510 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 1: that's kind of all I have. I mean, just to 511 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,640 Speaker 1: say it again, it's eight forty five pm Eastern Time 512 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: on Saturday. Things can happen quickly. It wouldn't stunt either 513 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: one of us if there's a move late tonight or 514 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 1: on Sunday. Alex has a rep for going a little 515 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 1: bit earlier. He's not someone that always waits till the 516 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: day of, but it could be the day of one 517 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,439 Speaker 1: last check in here, Scott. Would it shock you, slash 518 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 1: surprise you if the Braves did nothing, because it would 519 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 1: still surprise me if they just set on their hands 520 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 1: for four days. 521 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I would be pretty surprised. I think 522 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,360 Speaker 2: you have to have to add an outfielder, and. 523 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 1: They're not going to sell everybody. Just saying that loud 524 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: not gonna happen. 525 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not going to sell. They don't really have 526 00:25:59,000 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 2: a ton to sell. 527 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,679 Speaker 1: Anyone that's a shit every day comes up on Twitter 528 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: and it's kind of funny to me because the guys 529 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: that they would sell well. Number one on the guy 530 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: they would sell list is Max Fried and Max Freed 531 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 1: is currently hurt, so his value would be not as 532 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 1: high as it probably would be. And number two on 533 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: that list is probably Charlie Morton, who had the worst 534 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 1: sart of a season this year, yeah, yesterday, So tough 535 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 1: number for the for the sell crowd. 536 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 2: And number three would be Marcelo Zuna, who is a 537 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:31,120 Speaker 2: beloved leader in that clubhouse. Yeah, they're not going to sell. 538 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 2: It may not be a Superstar edition because there's just 539 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,360 Speaker 2: not that much in the way on the market. There's 540 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 2: it's more quantity than quality, I think. I don't know 541 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 2: if you feel differently. It seems like there are quite 542 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,479 Speaker 2: a few players out there and available right now, but 543 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 2: maybe not. I mean, like a couple you know, there's 544 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 2: the one Soto year and a couple of years ago, 545 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 2: Max Scherzer and Justin Verlander. Now there's not those high, 546 00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 2: high level impact talents right now, or at least presumably 547 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 2: there isn't, but it does seem like there are enough 548 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 2: on the sellers that the Braves are going to be 549 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,919 Speaker 2: able to have their choice from perhaps a handful of 550 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,479 Speaker 2: options for the outfield. Maybe they add a utility player 551 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 2: to help shore up things across the diamond. Maybe they 552 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,640 Speaker 2: go at another reliever, which is probably something I would 553 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 2: be in favor of. And maybe they do add an 554 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 2: innings eater of some kind for the rotation, just to 555 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 2: provide some depth. But regardless, it will be a very 556 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,679 Speaker 2: fun next couple of days, and who knows, maybe you 557 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 2: and I will be doing another podcast very soon whenever 558 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 2: a trade does inevitably happen. But I think I think 559 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 2: Alex Nthopolis has earned the benefit of the doubt with 560 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 2: the fan base when it comes to giving his team 561 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 2: a real chance to make a run with moves. He's 562 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 2: going to make it the deadline. 563 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 1: No Scott. On Friday night, I was told that Alex 564 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 1: and Snicker have. 565 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 2: To go. 566 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: It your silences at all. I try it to laugh, 567 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: though I tried my best not to laugh. It was 568 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: it was very fun and look I'm not I'm poking 569 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 1: fun a little bit. Uh, When you lose this games 570 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: in a row and you're not supposed to do that. 571 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 1: People get people get antsy, so I understand it. But uh, 572 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:11,719 Speaker 1: just to say this out loud, Alex is very good 573 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: at his job. And while you and I am not 574 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,679 Speaker 1: always agree with Brian Stickers every move, he is regarded 575 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 1: as one of the best managers in the league. So 576 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 1: they're not going to fire either one of them, just 577 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:20,360 Speaker 1: saying that out loud. 578 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 2: No, they are not. For a team that is in 579 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 2: the playoffs. 580 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: You could lose every game of the rest of the 581 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,160 Speaker 1: year and Alex is getting fire. I'll tay that right, right, right, 582 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,959 Speaker 1: He's got an extension for like a like a billion dollars. 583 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:32,439 Speaker 1: Alex Is is quite safe. 584 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, and who knows. I mean, sure, we're probably getting 585 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 2: to the end of Brian Snitker's time with Atlanta, but 586 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 2: it is it would not be mid season that would 587 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 2: that would never happen. 588 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: No, it would have to be a serious incident for 589 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 1: something to happen there, and he isn't. Someone's gonna give 590 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: you a serious incident. So anyway, that was a non sequitor. 591 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: But uh, yeah, I think we're in good shape. If 592 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: the Brays make a move, we'll do a podcast as 593 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: soon as humanly possible. It will probably be at least 594 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: two of the four of us, along with Steven Tolbert 595 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: and Sean Coleman, and we'll be here. Maybe if a 596 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: deal break is at two in the morning, you'll have 597 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: to go solo. Scott, I don't know, but we'll see 598 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: how that goes. People should say too, though, anything to 599 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 1: plug before you got out of here? Nothing to plug. 600 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 2: A big thanks to everybody for continuing to check out 601 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 2: the show even when the team is not playing well. 602 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 2: It is not lost on Brad and Steven and Sean 603 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 2: and I that when the team is not performing it 604 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 2: may not be the most fun thing in the world 605 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 2: to listen to the podcast, but the fact that folks 606 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 2: continue to hit the download and listen button really does 607 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 2: mean a lot to us. So a big thank you 608 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 2: for that. And yeah, keep your feeds close because we 609 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 2: will presumably be doing an emergency pod or two or 610 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 2: three here very soon. 611 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: Yes, programming wise, we are not going to just like 612 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 1: flat out schedule the pod the next couple of days 613 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: because we just don't know what's going to happen. But 614 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: in the unlikely event that they just don't do anything 615 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: or wait till Tuesday. We'll still do a reaction on Tuesday, 616 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: so at the very very latest we'll have a show 617 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: on Tuesday evening into Wednesday, but probably before then. 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