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Speaker 2: The Bide League.

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Speaker 2: Not quite as imprison for these guys the AFC North.

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Speaker 1: There's been a little up, a little down, and a

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Speaker 2: Gotta have it.

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Speaker 1: And if you got to have it for your fantasy team,

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Speaker 2: Some waiver wire pickups.

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Speaker 1: Our good buddy, Mike Florio, Michael F. Florio as he

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Speaker 2: All about it.

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Speaker 1: Welcome Inside with the Insiders, presented by Progressive Insurance Ian Rapperdboard.

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Speaker 2: Here, Judy Batista. There, we got a great show.

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Speaker 1: We got Baldy, we got Jayane Slater, we got Mark Ross,

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Speaker 2: But we're going to.

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Speaker 1: Start judy with that game last night, which your Patriots

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Speaker 1: That is Drake May, winners of nine straight. Shack Shondar

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Speaker 3: Nobody's perfect, and you know, the chance of me batt

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Speaker 2: Okay, everybody's going to make mistakes, and.

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Speaker 3: We're going to get some things right. As long as

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Speaker 4: What can we do better? What can we do better?

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Speaker 3: Because there are pieces here, there are pieces here. Why

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Speaker 2: So let's get into it now.

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Speaker 1: So let's let's bring in our good friend Mark Ross,

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Speaker 1: We heard Joe Shane talk about the talent on the roster,

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Speaker 10: He had to try to talk about the positives, and yes,

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Speaker 7: All right, Mark, you spent more than a decade in

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Speaker 10: It's almost like we're talking about first round picks and

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Speaker 1: I mean even you mentioned the special teams. We could

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Speaker 1: Talk about the other news of the day, including this guy,

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Speaker 1: The Stealers were looking Judy three receiver all throughout the

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Speaker 7: In the meantime, Chargers quarterback Justin Herbert had surgery on

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Speaker 7: Football players are crazy. Jim Horbot said that they will

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Speaker 7: That is a game with huge NFC playoff implications. And

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Speaker 7: Both of these teams are fighting for their playoff lives

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Speaker 7: Let's bring in our Jane Slater to talk about this.

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Speaker 8: Game some more.

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Speaker 7: Certainly, Jane, it feels like the Cowboys are finally headed

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Speaker 8: One three in a row. They seem to have their mode.

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Speaker 7: Show those big wins back to back five days separating

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Speaker 14: They have found an identity and they have found some confidence,

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Speaker 14: You've got Jared Goff and you've got Dak Prescott, who

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Speaker 14: According to head coach Dan Campbell, he's a game time

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Speaker 8: Big wins against the Chiefs and the Eagles. One thing

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Speaker 14: This will be a physical game capable of producing a

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Speaker 8: Let's see how much we punt in this one, Judy,

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Speaker 7: This might be one of the best Thursday night games

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Speaker 2: I talked to him.

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Speaker 14: Yesterday about this game, and he said his OC John

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Speaker 14: Now someone who could help them, Judy, is you just

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Speaker 8: Chance right now playing.

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Speaker 14: But do you rushing back?

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Speaker 8: I don't know.

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Speaker 14: We'll get some more information on this one tomorrow and Thursday,

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Speaker 8: One's going to be a good one. Can not wait

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Speaker 2: I can't wait to watch it either.

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Speaker 1: And if the East is becoming really fascinating, forget about

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Speaker 2: We got the Eagles eight and four.

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Speaker 1: We got the Cowboys sixty five and one, so obviously

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Speaker 2: In Philly. I'm just kidding. It's a total dumpster fire.

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Speaker 1: Listen to the college from WIP tellings everything they think

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Speaker 15: You know, to me, John Ritchie, it looks like the

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Speaker 15: I just can't believe what we're seeing. And you can

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Speaker 15: Where do you get the looks and all that extra

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Speaker 8: The proof is in a putting. It is what it is.

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Speaker 13: We're trash and not not not our talent, but it's

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Speaker 11: Look, I don't think Petulo is the top culprit, but

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, the whole show should be that. It

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Speaker 1: Yes, Baldy, Mark Cross, thank you for coming back and

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Speaker 1: I gotta be totally honest. What in the world Baldy

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Speaker 12: Well, they've been trying, you know, they've been picking at

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Speaker 4: The fish rots from the head down. I'm still laughing.

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Speaker 12: No, I think it always starts with the run game.

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Speaker 10: Even Jordan might A Lota's play has dipped a little bit.

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Speaker 1: or so leading up to the playoffs, which the Eagles

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Speaker 1: will surely make our Baldi Mark, thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: Don't go anywhere.

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Speaker 1: We got plenty more to get to in today's show,

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Speaker 1: including our good friend Jeffrey Chidia drops his first read

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Speaker 1: article telling you all the bubble teams that still have hope,

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Speaker 1: which all you want this time of year is just

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Speaker 1: a shot.

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Speaker 2: He will break that.

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Speaker 1: Down for us, and then Steelers Ravens is a big,

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Speaker 1: big one coming up this weekend. Steve Weisch, Bran Balldinger

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Speaker 1: of course is back. They're going to tell you all

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Speaker 1: about it coming up next. I'm the Insiders.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Insiders.

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Speaker 1: Time now for good coverage presented by Progressive Insurance to

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Speaker 1: those defense give the Steelers passing in trouble in week thirteen,

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Speaker 1: allowing a thirty nine points eight opposing passer rating, which

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Speaker 1: was the second lowest that week, and the lowest opposing

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Speaker 1: completion percentage of forty one point seven.

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Speaker 2: Not bad, not bad.

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Speaker 1: Let's get to the AFC North standings, which also not bad,

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Speaker 1: but also not great for just being totally honest, Ravens

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Speaker 1: and Steelers up top six and six. If only there

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Speaker 1: was a way to figure that out. So last segment,

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Speaker 1: we brought you angry calls by Eagles fans. Well, if

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Speaker 1: you're an angry Steelers fan calling into ninety three point

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Speaker 1: seven the Fan, you might be listening to yourself right now.

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Speaker 15: I think Kawn's been horrible.

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Speaker 13: These contracts, these signs, prior moves, what all these guys,

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Speaker 13: what is horrible? Forty one million man, I just notice

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Speaker 13: time we're changed. Everybody gotta go mad. I'm sorry, man,

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Speaker 13: everybody has to go you know you got a gas

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Speaker 13: Come on there, Hoki these guys and makes the Rudolph

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Speaker 13: makes the lutoff is what he is? You know, then

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Speaker 13: then you don't go out and help you know, Aaron

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Speaker 13: order offense and get no office or weapons. I'm watching

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Speaker 13: these games the last couple of weeks. It seems like

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Speaker 13: everybody got a good rookie where our receiver it was

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Speaker 13: in this year's tramp except the Stellers, Like we didn't

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Speaker 13: go out and address no major needs. Like I'm just

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Speaker 13: I'm burnt out, guys. I'm gonna continue to watch. But

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Speaker 13: the sad thing about how is there is that's still

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Speaker 13: gonna win a division about default.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, there's probably some truth there and if

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Speaker 1: history is any teller of what's going to happen, like

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Speaker 1: that's probably right and the Steelers will probably win it and

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Speaker 1: probably end up okay.

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Speaker 2: But it has been in.

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Speaker 1: Angst filled time. Steve Weish, welcome in Brian Baldinger as well.

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Speaker 6: Guys.

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Speaker 1: Let's get into this game. Baldy, I want to start

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Speaker 1: with you. Since the beginning of the season, the Steelers

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Speaker 1: run defense has been an issue. Trying to fix that.

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Speaker 2: Still seems to be an issue. Huh.

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Speaker 12: Well, they just gave up the most rushing yard cards

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Speaker 12: at Akrascher or Heinz Field Stadium last week against the

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Speaker 12: Bills in history. I mean, they ran for two and

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Speaker 12: forty nine yards in that game, and you know, guys

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Speaker 12: couldn't get off the block. Guys, we're looking to get

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Speaker 12: blocked rather than get off blocks.

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Speaker 6: It was.

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Speaker 4: It was really bad. And it's been bad upfront and

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Speaker 4: it's been a problem.

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Speaker 12: And so that's got to get fixed, I believe, you

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Speaker 12: know this week going to Baltimore where you know, they

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Speaker 12: want to try to feature King Henry and if you

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Speaker 12: don't tackle him, and you don't you let him get

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Speaker 12: a runway like James Kokaz right here, he'll do the

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Speaker 12: exact same thing to the Steelers defense.

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Speaker 4: So it's got to start up front.

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Speaker 12: They got to get off blocks, they get a defeat blocks,

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Speaker 12: they got to refuse to be blocked. They've got to

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Speaker 12: play a completely different energy level than what we saw

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Speaker 12: against Buffalo. If they want to, you know, stop the

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Speaker 12: Ravens from you know, winning this game and winning the division,

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Speaker 12: they can do that, but it's got to start.

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Speaker 4: I think upfront were stopping the run.

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Speaker 16: Steve Ball, that's a great point because we're going to

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Speaker 16: find out about each of these teams Sunday, seeing how

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Speaker 16: their energy is, like how you know, the this rivalry

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Speaker 16: game right, all the playoffs stuff you can throw away,

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Speaker 16: all the bad stuff that's looked that looked things looked

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Speaker 16: like last week.

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Speaker 6: This is where they have to come out and play.

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Speaker 16: And you know, with the Ravens, if they don't run

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Speaker 16: the ball, after seeing what the Steelers just put on tape,

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Speaker 16: you know that that would be just criminal.

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Speaker 6: Last week they ran the ball. Derek Henry had ten

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Speaker 6: carries for sixty yards. Let me see that.

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Speaker 16: The math on that is six yards per carry. They've

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Speaker 16: got to commit to it. John Harbaughs said this week

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Speaker 16: after this game, they've got.

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Speaker 6: To commit to the run.

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Speaker 16: That in part is to help out Lamar, who doesn't

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Speaker 16: look right, but he is part of that running game

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Speaker 16: as well.

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Speaker 6: They've got to figure something out.

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Speaker 16: But I think both of us who will be covering

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Speaker 16: this game, Baldy, are going to be looking to see

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Speaker 16: at the focus that either one of these teams comes

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Speaker 16: out with, because it did not look good over the

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Speaker 16: past week the way both of these teams played on

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Speaker 16: both sides of the ball.

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Speaker 7: Welcome back to the Insiders presented by Progressive Insurance, there

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Speaker 7: is your playoff picture.

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Speaker 8: After week thirty.

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Speaker 7: We're showing you the divisional round, We're showing you the

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Speaker 7: wildcard round. We really want to be thinking about the

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Speaker 7: teams that are just on the outside looking in, the

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Speaker 7: bubble teams. Let's bring in our Jeffrey Chidia and bring

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Speaker 7: back our Mark Ross because Jeffrey wrote his first Red

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Speaker 7: column this week about reasons for hope for teams that

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Speaker 7: are on the bubble. So let's get well, let's get

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Speaker 7: to the Thursday night game.

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Speaker 8: First. Give me a reason for hope for the Dallas Cowboys, Jeffrey.

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Speaker 17: But if you watch that Thanksgiving Day game, they got

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Speaker 17: the best thing going right now in the NFL. I

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Speaker 17: don't know if anybody is playing better than this team

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Speaker 17: right now, and it starts with Dak Prescott, those two receivers,

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Speaker 17: Ceedee Lamb and George Pickens, and that improved defense. They

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Speaker 17: made these trades for Quinn Williams and Logan Wilson, and

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Speaker 17: they found a way to get that defense moving in

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Speaker 17: the right direction. And so I know they got a

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Speaker 17: tough chance of making the playoffs. Mark, But right now,

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Speaker 17: the way they look on field. It's pretty impressive, Jeffrey,

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Speaker 17: one hundred percent agree with you. Dak Prescott, George Pickings,

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Speaker 17: Ceedee Lamb are absolutely frightening in the past game.

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Speaker 10: But I'm a channel by George W. Bush, the former president.

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Speaker 10: Fool me once old saying in Texas for me once, Well,

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Speaker 10: just don't fool me again. How many times have we

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Speaker 10: seen this story with Dallas that we know where this

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Speaker 10: story is going to end? With them gets everybody hope up,

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Speaker 10: We talk about them, we put them on every segment,

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Speaker 10: and then they got Detroit and La Chargers the next

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Speaker 10: two weeks.

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Speaker 2: They won't make it go all.

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Speaker 7: Right, Let's go to the opposite side of that game, Jeffrey,

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Speaker 7: the Detroit Lions reason for hope for the Lions pedigree.

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Speaker 17: You know, Dan Campbell built this thing from the ground up,

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Speaker 17: tore it down, built it up with grit and toughness,

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Speaker 17: and now it's time to show it. Because this team

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Speaker 17: won the NFC North the last two years. They still

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Speaker 17: got a ton of talent there. Dan Campb's got to

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Speaker 17: figure out how to call the plays when they can

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Speaker 17: ask this to offense can actually do more things.

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Speaker 6: But I look at what they've been able to do.

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Speaker 17: They know this is a tough spot to be in,

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Speaker 17: but they also know that they've been in touch spots before,

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Speaker 17: Mark and they found ways to get it done. I

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Speaker 17: like the Lions to find a way to get back

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Speaker 17: into the playoff race.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I like them too.

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Speaker 10: In that pedigree, I'm going with explosiveness, and that's Jamiir

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Speaker 10: Gibbs who can absolutely take over games. James and Williams,

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Speaker 10: who you just saw there is finally getting back in

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Speaker 10: because of the Imam Ross Saint Brown injury, so he's

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Speaker 10: gotten more explosive plays. And also the schedule where they

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Speaker 10: have four of their last four game five games inside.

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Speaker 10: The only outdoor game is the last game at Chicago.

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Speaker 10: So I like for them, despite the banged up O line,

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Speaker 10: for them to be comfortable in those indoor environments.

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Speaker 6: Judy and go win some.

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Speaker 7: Games, right, Jeffrey, I bet I know what the answer

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Speaker 7: is going to be to this last one.

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Speaker 8: What's the reason for hope for the Kansas City Chiefs.

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Speaker 17: Well, it's the only answer they got now, and it's

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Speaker 17: Patrick Levon Mahomes the second.

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Speaker 6: He's done a lot.

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Speaker 17: Of great things in this league, pull up a lot

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Speaker 17: of miraculous things. This would be his biggest trick yet

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Speaker 17: because this team is one and five on the row,

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Speaker 17: they're one and six in close and one score games,

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Speaker 17: and they're winning three in their last game last games

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Speaker 17: against playoff contenders. So Mahomes is dealing with a tough defense,

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Speaker 17: a beat up offensive line, but he's still Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 17: We've seen it do amazing things.

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Speaker 4: Mark.

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Speaker 17: I can't imagine that this team can't at least still

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Speaker 17: keep fighting with him still under center.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, of course Patrick Mahons and also Andy Reid and

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Speaker 10: of course still be in everyone. But just like the

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Speaker 10: last few years where although the offense and Patrick Mahons

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Speaker 10: weren't up, the part of the defense is what really

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Speaker 10: carried them to the Super Bowl last year and carried

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Speaker 10: them the early part of the season. They're severely compromised

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Speaker 10: and that's what my big worry, and he saw that

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Speaker 10: against Dallas where they just don't have the pass rush

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Speaker 10: to get home. Spags has the Blitz and their quarters

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Speaker 10: cannot hold up. Of course, they won't play Pickings and

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Speaker 10: Ceedee Lamb every week, so they'll have a break. But

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Speaker 10: they do have Houston, the Chargers, and Denver three of

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Speaker 10: the last five games, so I'm especially worried about the

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Speaker 10: Chiefs getting in. Sorry, Jeff, I know it's your team,

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Speaker 10: but worried about them from me, worried about them getting in.

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Speaker 7: I will be I'll believe that the Chiefs are not

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Speaker 7: in the playoffs when the Chiefs are really not in

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Speaker 7: the playoffs.

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Speaker 8: Jeffrey and Mark, thank you very much.

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Speaker 7: Don't forget to check out Jeffries full article NFL dot Com.

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Speaker 8: A slash, a first read ian A.

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Speaker 1: Couple of bubble teams right there. That is the AFC

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Speaker 1: South standings. And this AFC South has gotten kind of fun,

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Speaker 1: just to be totally honest, kind of fun in part

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Speaker 1: because the Houston Texans have come all the way back

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Speaker 1: and the Cults have kind of come this way. There's

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Speaker 1: a lot to get into. Our good friend Steve Weisch

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Speaker 1: joins us again. I want to start, though, with the

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Speaker 1: Houston Texans. We've seen them in some many more high

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Speaker 1: profile games this season. I mean, they what they did

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Speaker 1: to the Bills offensive offensive line is something that Bill's

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Speaker 1: reeled from for like a week.

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Speaker 2: Brutal.

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Speaker 1: What do you make of the Texans and then the

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Speaker 1: AFC South in general, Steve Whaite, Now, first.

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Speaker 16: Off, this game against the Chiefs is significant for both

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Speaker 16: of these teams because if they knock off the Chiefs,

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Speaker 16: that might be the death knell for Kansas City, and

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Speaker 16: it also could open up a second playoff spot for

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Speaker 16: a team in the AFC South.

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Speaker 6: We'll get to that in just a minute.

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Speaker 16: But the Houston Texans, the one thing that has been

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Speaker 16: namely Will Anderson and Daniel Hunter. The energy that they

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Speaker 16: played with is contagious. They are three linebackers, you know,

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Speaker 16: al Shayer speed and oh they can run with anybody.

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Speaker 16: They deliver contact, and we know how good that secondary is,

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Speaker 16: especially with the depth that they have on it. Now

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Speaker 16: the football that has taken the pressure off first of

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Speaker 16: Davis Mills and now CJ.

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Speaker 6: Stroud as he starts to get his mojo back.

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Speaker 16: You seem already got the chemistry chemistry going with Nico Collins,

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Speaker 16: involving him some of the run game as well as

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Speaker 16: the passing game. They're a team that's on the ascent

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Speaker 16: and you look at their schedule. We talked about their

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Speaker 16: game with the Chiefs. They've got the Cardinals and the

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Speaker 16: Raiders after that, and then they finish off with the

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Speaker 16: Chargers and Colts, two teams that will be playing for

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Speaker 16: their playoff lives as well as Houston. Now let's get

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Speaker 16: into the rest of the division, and let's start with

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Speaker 16: the fact that there's going to be some cannibalization going

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Speaker 16: on between these two teams, the Colts and Jaguars, and

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Speaker 16: it starts this week as they play each other for

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Speaker 16: the first of two times, the Colts, and they have

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Speaker 16: the Jets and the Broncos. You know, the Jaguars, the Colts, Jets, Broncos,

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Speaker 16: Colts again in Tennessee. But look at the Colts schedule,

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Speaker 16: the Jaguars, Seattle, the forty nine Ers, the Jags again

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Speaker 16: and at Houston.

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Speaker 6: That is a gauntlet.

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Speaker 16: And that is why as well as the Colts looked

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Speaker 16: and playing the Texans last week, the fact that they

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Speaker 16: right there, it looks very very tough. They're still a

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Speaker 16: very good football game and could very much qualify for

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Speaker 16: the playoffs.

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Speaker 6: But you look at the schedules.

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Speaker 16: With the Texans and the Jaguars, and the fact that

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Speaker 16: the Jaguars are showing the life of being a dangerous

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Speaker 16: football team. If they ever get to the point are

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Speaker 16: showing consistency, it will be a dangerous football team. Ian

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Speaker 16: So again, I think the fact if the Chiefs get

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Speaker 16: knocked off this week, that opens up the door for

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Speaker 16: two teams for this division to get into the playoffs.

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Speaker 16: We'll see which two Houston Texans are the one team

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Speaker 16: that seems like it's really on the ascent while the

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Speaker 16: other two. I think the culture treading water a little bit,

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Speaker 16: and the Jaguars are showing some life that they can

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Speaker 16: be dangerous even if they get into the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: We'll go back to the Insiders presented by Progressive Insurance.

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Speaker 1: This is the perfect lineup in all of fantasy. I

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Speaker 1: This more resembles my fantasy team, which is fine. We're

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Speaker 2: I know you care. I will keep you updated.

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Speaker 1: What I want to get to now is which players

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Speaker 1: I need to target on the waiver wire. I potentially

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Speaker 2: Why don't you start us off with the quarterback position.

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Speaker 5: No, we got to get you in so this is

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Speaker 5: not your last waiver wire, but four teams up by

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Speaker 5: this week.

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Speaker 2: People need streaming options.

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Speaker 8: Tyrod Taylor is one for you.

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Speaker 5: He scored twenty one fantasy points and was the QB

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Speaker 5: six last week, and he ran for over forty yards.

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Speaker 5: He's done that now with two of his three starts.

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Speaker 5: He's topped sixteen fantasy points in each of those games.

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Speaker 5: And he gets a good matchup as the Dolphins have

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Speaker 5: allowed the seventh most fantasy points to quarterbacks, including the

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Speaker 5: third most rushing yard. So he brings the saint floor

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Speaker 5: and some upside. That's all you can ask for when

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Speaker 5: you're streaming at quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Fascinating never would have thought, all right, what about running

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Speaker 1: back Chris Rodriguez.

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Speaker 5: He has taken over in Washington the last two weeks.

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Speaker 5: In that span, forty five percent of the snaps, over

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Speaker 5: half of their running back carries, and he's getting all

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Speaker 5: of the goal line work, and normally he's more of

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Speaker 5: a floor play, but he brings a little bit of upside.

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Speaker 8: This week because game script could be on his side.

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Speaker 5: No team has been ran against more than the Minnesota Vikings.

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Speaker 6: So if you're streaming at running back and I have

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Speaker 6: a couple.

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Speaker 5: Of leagues where it's a pretty thin right now for

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Speaker 5: me with buys and injuries, Rodriguez is definitely a streaming

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Speaker 5: option this week.

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Speaker 2: Weird week for buys to have him. But here we are.

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Speaker 2: Why don't you take me to a receiver on the

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Speaker 2: waiver wire, Alec Pierce.

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Speaker 5: He should not be on the waiver war I say

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Speaker 5: the same thing for Christian Watson and Chris Godwin, who

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Speaker 5: are also out there in a number of leagues. But

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Speaker 5: Pierce has topped seventeen Fantasy points in three of his

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Speaker 5: last four. He currently leads the Colts in receiving yards,

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Speaker 5: and he always brings a high ceiling because of his

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Speaker 5: downfield usage. But I like him this week because look,

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Speaker 5: the Jags have been better as of late, but on

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Speaker 5: the year out wide wide.

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Speaker 8: Receivers have torched him.

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Speaker 5: He plays over eighty percent of his snaps out wide

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Speaker 5: and they struggle downfield. And then it's not just the

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Speaker 5: one we think. He gets the Jacks again and Championship week,

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Speaker 5: the forty nine.

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Speaker 8: Ers a week sixteen. He's a good player to just

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Speaker 8: pick up right now.

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Speaker 1: Bring it home, FOURIO give me a tight end on

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Speaker 1: the waiver wire.

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Speaker 5: The big fellow Darren Waller, who returned last week and

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Speaker 5: led the Dolphins in yards. He just missed a touchdown,

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Speaker 5: but it is clear that he is the top red

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Speaker 5: and end zone option there. This week he gets the Jets,

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Speaker 5: who allowed the third most touchdowns to tight ends. They

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Speaker 5: got lit up by Kyle Pitt's last week, and he

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Speaker 5: is a very favorable playoff schedule, so he's not just

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Speaker 5: a one week rental. It's a good week for tight ends.

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Speaker 5: Though there's bretton Strange who's my top option, Hark Fann

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Speaker 5: and Don Schultz, feel Johnson and then there like please

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Speaker 5: add Jacoby percent already, but a lot of depth that

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Speaker 5: you should check your waiver wire just in case some

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Speaker 5: of these bigger names are out there, or and your handcuff.

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Speaker 6: At running back for sure.

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Speaker 7: Welcome back to the Insiders presented by Progressive Insurances. It

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Speaker 7: is a great stat by our John Todd. The Lions

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Speaker 7: had the most win it's an NFL history on Thursdays,

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Speaker 7: and the Cowboys are just one behind entering their Thursday

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Speaker 7: night football matchup this week just adds a little bit

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Speaker 7: more juice to an already very juicy game. Let's welcome

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Speaker 7: in Sam Schwarztein, Prime Video and TNFS analytics expert to

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Speaker 7: break down this week fourteen kickoff game. All Right, Dak

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Speaker 7: Prescott is back firmly in the MVP conversation now that

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Speaker 7: they are reeled off three straight wins.

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Speaker 8: What makes him worthy of consideration?

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Speaker 9: Sim here we go. Yeah, he's definitely the MVP conversations.

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Speaker 4: He's clucked.

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Speaker 9: That's playing simple.

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Speaker 6: I don't it is not takesmanship.

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Speaker 9: But he has three hundred and two percent win probability

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Speaker 9: added over the thirteen games just himself. That's by far

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Speaker 9: the most the NFL, by nearly fifty percent higher the

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Speaker 9: next closest player. The league average is thirty six percent

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Speaker 9: and he's doing it on all the important downs, whether

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Speaker 9: it's one hundred and twenty five percent added on third down,

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Speaker 9: one hundred and forty five percent added the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 9: and one hundred and ninety percent in quick throws when

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Speaker 9: he's able to diagnose everything. I think what's important, though,

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Speaker 9: is there is negative three hundred and forty one and

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Speaker 9: a half percent lost, but since adding quentinnin Williams, they've

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Speaker 9: added two point six percent.

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Speaker 7: We basically spent the entire first half of the season

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Speaker 7: talking about Jerry jones trades on the defensive side of

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Speaker 7: the ball, But did we maybe not give him enough

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Speaker 7: credit for the George Pickens deal.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Jerry Jones.

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Speaker 9: My family's all in Texas and they've never doubted him,

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Speaker 9: never doubt him, clearly, And the George Pickens trade is

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Speaker 9: massive for what they've done. He now leads all wide

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Speaker 9: receivers and EPA even more so than often the player

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Speaker 9: of your favorite Jackson Smith and Jigba. And I think

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Speaker 9: what's important is what he's added to his route tree

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Speaker 9: this year. He is twenty and a half EPA on

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Speaker 9: slants and he is a sixty one percent target win

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Speaker 9: slant win running slants. He also is the highest EPA

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Speaker 9: on INDs or dig routes twenty six percent target rate.

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Speaker 9: What they do with Pickens is they isolate him to

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Speaker 9: one side on the field. He's isolated forty one percent

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Speaker 9: of the time the most of the NFL. That either

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Speaker 9: makes teams dictate their coverage. Are they going to double

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Speaker 9: Pickings to leave Ceedee Lamb on the other side of

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Speaker 9: the field open, or if they don't double, don't double Pickens.

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Speaker 2: That's when DA goes to him.

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Speaker 7: The Lions are scrambling a little bit trying to get

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Speaker 7: back into the playoffs field. You cannot deny their speed

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Speaker 7: though they still got firepowers.

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Speaker 9: In oh and they're so good at making explosive plays.

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Speaker 9: They have three players hopefully I'm on Rossaint Brown's going

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Speaker 9: to play. It doesn't look like it, but three players

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Speaker 9: with over twenty explosive plays. That's either a ten yard

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Speaker 9: run or a fifteen yard pass. And they can do

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Speaker 9: it in many different ways, whether it's screens, running plays

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Speaker 9: with Jamior Gibbs or Saint Brown from the slot. I

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Speaker 9: think what's important to remember is that when they have

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Speaker 9: an explosive play on that drive, they score a touchdown

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Speaker 9: on fifty two percent of their drives and most of

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Speaker 9: their explosives end up going for touchdowns like this when

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Speaker 9: they can create the big plays get open space for

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Speaker 9: their skill posion players. This is probably the most dominant

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Speaker 9: offense in the NFL, and they're going to eat it

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Speaker 9: on Thursday to keep their playoff hopes alive.

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Speaker 8: Such a great matchup.

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Speaker 7: Can't wait to watch it, Sam, Thank you very much,

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Speaker 7: and everybody can watch Sam every week on Thursday Night

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Speaker 7: Before we completely turn the page though, on week thirteen,

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Speaker 1: You've got YouTube on many days. I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: go through the whole thing. Just read there, and each

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Speaker 1: day you can know where you see us, which is

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Speaker 1: a lot of places. Welcome back to the Insiders in Rappaport, Judavitis.

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Speaker 1: Our good friend Jane Slater is right there. And before

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Speaker 1: we get to you, Jane, I want to get to

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Speaker 1: your social media because for a lot of people who

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Speaker 1: don't know this, Texas beat Texas.

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Speaker 2: A and M and it was a whole thing. On Saturday, Electric.

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Speaker 18: Given all access path to this game. Oh my god,

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Speaker 18: the greatest job in the world. Come in sports and

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Speaker 18: the Cowboys. Seriously, But since I graduated college, I've either

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Speaker 18: been working weekends or holidays, or if I'm credentialed, I'm

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Speaker 18: there as a working media member.

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Speaker 8: I did not expect to have a credential to.

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Speaker 19: Stand on the sidelines for my first SEC game, my

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Speaker 19: first night game at DKR, I was right there with

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Speaker 19: Matthew McConaughey.

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Speaker 8: My boyfriend Ryan there got to come with me.

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Speaker 14: Whenie Harrelson was there, We saw Glenn Powell.

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Speaker 2: The drones were incredible.

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Speaker 19: Miranda Lambert almost fought me when I tried to get

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Speaker 19: a picture with Glenn Powell.

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Speaker 8: That is a great story.

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Speaker 19: For the podcast another time. And then Arch for President.

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Speaker 19: Thank you Texas. From a filling the best fan experience

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Speaker 19: I could have ever asked for.

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Speaker 8: At forty five, I felt alive.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the fact that Arch actually played well was

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Speaker 1: noteworthy enough.

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Speaker 2: And there you are on the field soaking it up

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Speaker 2: because I was there. Welcome Jane