1 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: You're listening to Ron and Nanian The Car Doctor. Nationally 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: recognized auto expert trusted by Mechanics, Weekend wrenchers and vehicle 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: owners alike. Ron brings over forty years of hands on 4 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: experience and deep industry insight to help you understand your vehicle. 5 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: Join the Conversation live every Saturday from two to four 6 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,119 Speaker 1: pm Eastern by calling eight five five five six zero 7 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,319 Speaker 1: nine nine zero zero. That's eight five to five five 8 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: six zero ninety nine hundred, your direct line to honest 9 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: answers and practical advice. 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They're just they get on your nerves because 19 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 2: you feel like you're treading water and you're just in 20 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 2: quicksand just trying to keep your head above it and 21 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 2: get out of the day. Wednesday, this week was a 22 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 2: grape day. It started off simple enough. Some of it 23 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 2: didn't make sense to me at first. I had The 24 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 2: first car out of the shoot was a twenty seventeen 25 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 2: FOURD Escape. Needless to say, I made a YouTube video 26 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 2: for it, which it's in production right now, so when 27 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 2: you see it you'll understand why. The vehicle had set 28 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:34,279 Speaker 2: a very simple P ten sixteen ten thirteen fault code 29 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 2: of vacuum issue to the waistegate for the turbocharger. Not 30 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 2: a common fault code, but it's there. It's legit. And 31 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 2: the long and the short of it was, and you'll 32 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 2: see it in the video, a very short section of 33 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 2: hard nylon, plastic whatever that material is. Vacuum line coming 34 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 2: off the vacuum pump had split where they pushed it 35 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 2: onto the nipple of the vacuum pump, and then that 36 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 2: vacuum line went out and fed the wastegates. Solnoid management 37 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 2: group I'll call it, because there was a couple of 38 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,119 Speaker 2: different pieces and components to this over on the right 39 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:11,839 Speaker 2: side of the cylinder head that in order to get 40 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 2: to it, I had to take out the cowl, the 41 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 2: wiper motor, the you know, we had a disassemble half 42 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 2: the front of the car. It's it just seemed silly. 43 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 2: And that wasn't even the break. The backbreaker. That even 44 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 2: wasn't the bad part. The bad part was this short 45 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 2: little piece of nylon hose which led to a rubber 46 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 2: sleeve which then read to the rest of the tubing assembly. 47 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 2: Was only available as the assembly. You couldn't buy the 48 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 2: individual piece, which I'm still scratching my head because it 49 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 2: was literally four and a half five inches long and 50 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 2: it went from hard plastic into rubber, and they could 51 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 2: have very easily made just a section and you would 52 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 2: have patched it in. Now to preempt all the internet 53 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 2: trolls that are going to say, Ron, why didn't you 54 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 2: just do that? You know, I'm kind of giving the 55 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 2: engineer the benefit of the doubt and saying he must 56 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 2: have a reason for selling it the way they did, 57 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:09,079 Speaker 2: because they required me to buy the entire hose assembly. 58 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 2: And I don't know if that's because did they update 59 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 2: the design, did they change the wastegate solenoids, did they 60 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 2: reduce something electrically, is it a different vendor. There's a 61 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 2: lot of I don't know in this conversation, because you're 62 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 2: not privy to that information. Unfortunately, it was a five 63 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 2: hundred dollars piece for a pile of plastic and electrical 64 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 2: solenoids that you look at it and you go, oh, 65 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 2: come on. Really. That set the tone for the day. 66 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 2: Then I had two nine hondas, one an Odyssey, one 67 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 2: a CRV, and both had the potentials to be comebacks. 68 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 2: And I hate comebacks. I absolutely hate comebacks any mechanic does, 69 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 2: especially when it's not for something you did, when it's 70 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 2: related to parts, because as I always tell you, parts 71 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 2: are an issue. The first one was an nine CRV 72 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 2: and about a year and a half ago we put 73 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 2: a starter in it. The starter had filled. You put 74 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 2: a starter in it, and the note said on the 75 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 2: ticket hard to start intermittent, no crank starter. Sounds funny, hmm, 76 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 2: This isn't gonna end well. Starters on crvs are a 77 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:17,919 Speaker 2: pain in the neck. They're painting something else, but this 78 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 2: is family radio. The starter's located under the intake manifold 79 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 2: and you can only do it from underneath, and the 80 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 2: interior bolt the fourteen millimeter about eight inches long. You 81 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 2: have to take it out and find it and tighten 82 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 2: it and loosen it and put it back in by 83 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 2: the braille method, and you have to do it with 84 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 2: your back to the car, and you twist your arm 85 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 2: around backwards and you're fondling and feeling up there, and 86 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 2: it's it's just a hot mess. As a matter of fact, 87 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 2: there's a video on the YouTube channel where I talk 88 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 2: about my rubber band trick. This is the car that 89 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 2: I would use the rubber band trick on where I 90 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 2: use a rubber band to hold the bolt in, so 91 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 2: then all I have to do is find the bolt head, 92 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 2: which is easy enough with a with a small head 93 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 2: ratchet and a fourteen millimeter socket and I'm home free. 94 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 2: Sure enough, this car was an intermittent no crank, and 95 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 2: I was able to actually duplicate it. I was actually 96 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 2: able to make it happen. But it wasn't the starter. 97 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 2: It was the ignition switch, and I had to prove it. 98 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 2: And I pinned out with wiring and I went in 99 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 2: and you know, I tagged voltage in, I tagged signal out, 100 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 2: and sure enough, when it went into the no crank, 101 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 2: I had voltage in, I had I had correct power 102 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 2: and grounds where I was supposed to signal, I had 103 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 2: nothing coming out of the switch. It was a bad 104 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 2: ignition switch, and I learned how with the cut. With 105 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 2: the cover off, I got out my two ounce diagnostic 106 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 2: hammer in my little ballpen hammer. I always hear you go, 107 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to do a video with that. And 108 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 2: I always loved doing this because it kind of makes 109 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 2: Danny pay attention, not that he doesn't pay attention, but 110 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 2: he always kind of smiles and giggles. He's waiting for 111 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 2: his own two ounce ballpen hammer, but the snap on 112 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 2: guy doesn't seem to be able to get it to him. 113 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 2: He wants the official snap on ballpen hammer. And you 114 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 2: catch the car in the failure moting, you off over 115 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 2: with your two ounce ballpeen hammer and you go and 116 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 2: the car starts. Okay, that's bad. We should do a 117 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 2: video on that. That would really freak people out. But you know, 118 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 2: it does work. So I put an addition switch in 119 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 2: that the car started normal starter had a little bit 120 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 2: of noise to it, and then the more we drove it, 121 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 2: the more we started it, the less the noise became. 122 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 2: So I'm not sure. This is also a very low 123 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 2: mileage car that it's almost like the only thing I 124 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,239 Speaker 2: think of in my head is the starter was starting 125 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 2: to rust from lack of use, and that would not 126 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 2: be a lie. I think this car went two thousand 127 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 2: miles in the past six months during its oil change interval, 128 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 2: because while it was there, we also changed the oil, which, 129 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 2: by the way, for all you people that talk about, oh, 130 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 2: two thousand miles isn't long enough to change oil, twenty 131 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 2: three hundred miles isn't long enough to change oil, look 132 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 2: at the color of this oil and tell me that 133 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 2: it's okay to leave it in there. It was absolutely black. 134 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 2: It looked like it was a diesel engine. That's how 135 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 2: dirty and dark this oil was. So for all the 136 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 2: trolls that say no, say do it on your own card, 137 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 2: don't judge anybody else. The third grape in this bunch 138 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 2: was an nine Odyssey that we had just repaired the 139 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 2: air conditioning on. We had just put the air conditioning together. 140 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 2: It needed a condenser. The condenser itself had failed, and 141 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 2: pret condenser in it clear cut leak playing is the 142 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 2: nose on your face went through normal diagnostic routine, added 143 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 2: green to it, and you know green dye, and sure enough, 144 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 2: you always have to wait about an hour, right, It's 145 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 2: not something you can do right away, you know. We 146 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 2: waited an hour, we ran it, we drove it. Yes, 147 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 2: green dye came out both bottom corners of the AC 148 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 2: condenser and I think I did a video on that 149 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 2: too on the YouTube channel. I have to remember now 150 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 2: because it was such a good example of you know, 151 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 2: failure die and how to diagnose. And here we are 152 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 2: three weeks later, ticket says AC blows warm. All right, rats, 153 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 2: So I drew the ticket. It was my lucky day, 154 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 2: you know, And usually i'll do that, I'll I'll keep 155 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 2: the bed days to one guy. This way, only one 156 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 2: guy's aggravated, not two or three or four or five. 157 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 2: So it was my day in the barrel the car. 158 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 2: And I don't understand this. I'm not sure what everybody's thinking. 159 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 2: And that's why I really wanted to bring this up. 160 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 2: I got into the car and it was a three 161 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 2: zone AC system left, right and back, and the comment 162 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 2: was AC blows warm. On the left side, the left 163 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 2: side air conditioning was set to seventy two degrees, the 164 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 2: right side air conditioning was set to seventy degrees, and 165 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 2: the rear air conditioning was stuck all the way in 166 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 2: the high position and set it seventy five, and I'm thinking, huh. 167 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 2: And here's the point when I set the air conditioning 168 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 2: down low. And I did put it down low. You know, 169 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 2: we always do our testing in a set prescribed manner, 170 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 2: industry manner, so to speak. And the air conditioning blue 171 00:08:59,920 --> 00:09:05,319 Speaker 2: forty seven degrees, and sure enough, the air conditioning had charged, 172 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 2: the air conditioning was called. The air conditioning was working properly. 173 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 2: It's not that the air conditioning had a problem. It's 174 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 2: an older vehicle. Things go out of calibration, and you 175 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:19,559 Speaker 2: have to remember that. Stop using your vehicle air conditioning 176 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 2: like a thermostat in your house. It's not that accurate 177 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 2: as it ages. And that's really the truth. And I 178 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 2: find this a lot. I think if you want to 179 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 2: be accurate with your air conditioning, you need to get 180 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 2: a little dashboard mounted thermometer. Be like the Inanian kids. 181 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:35,719 Speaker 3: Right. 182 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 2: My kids all went to high school and college with 183 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 2: thermometers in their dashboard, and their friends always commented, how 184 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 2: can we have a thermometer in your dashboard? Because my 185 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 2: dad's an air conditioning nut. And I am because I 186 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 2: will prove that the air conditioning unit, even though the 187 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 2: dashboard might say it's seventy two degrees, the air conditioning 188 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 2: unit is really blowing coming out of the duck. That's 189 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 2: seventy six, and that three or four or five degrees 190 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 2: makes a huge difference. So the takeaway here becomes, if 191 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 2: you're trying to use a three zone, two zone, even 192 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 2: a one zone air conditioning system based on what the 193 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 2: dashboard says, remember it's only as accurate as the quality 194 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 2: of and the age and condition of the vehicle. And 195 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,839 Speaker 2: you've got to keep in mind it's similar to when 196 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 2: you call me up and say, hey, Ron, my car 197 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 2: says I'm getting twenty six miles to the gallon, but 198 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 2: I'm really only getting twenty three. Yeah, and that's you 199 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 2: know what. Sometimes that's just the way they calculated, and 200 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 2: the mathematical formulas for all this just go out or 201 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 2: censors go out of calibration. In the end, I showed David, 202 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 2: I said, David, the car is called. Instead of asking 203 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 2: for seventy two, make it seventy, make it sixty eight, 204 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 2: and lo and behold, he was able to find a 205 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 2: temperature that he could adjust to that made him want 206 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 2: to keep it in that position. And that's the point 207 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 2: I'm trying to make bad days may come in bunches 208 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 2: in order repair, but there's usually a solution. And sometimes 209 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 2: you got to make those grapes into wine and sit 210 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 2: back and chill. Five five five six zero nine nine 211 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 2: zero zero. I'm running ady in the car doctor. I'll 212 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 2: be back right after this. Let's go to Deepak in 213 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:13,839 Speaker 2: Toronto sixteen Lexus and some break squealing issues. Deepak, Welcome 214 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 2: to the car doctor. How can I help hi? 215 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 4: Ron, good afternoon. 216 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 2: Thank you. 217 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 4: You're enjoying your summer? 218 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 2: Sure, thank you? Yes, I am you? Everything good? 219 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 4: Good? Thank you? Yeah, everything's great. Well small, small, sorry, 220 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 4: go ahead, the guy. 221 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, but here you are, right, what's 222 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 2: the matter. 223 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 4: It's not fun without a car issue? 224 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 2: Right, yep? 225 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 4: Ye, I had a small rant. I recently broke some 226 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 4: tabs on the cabin filter of my Lexus, and I said, oh, 227 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 4: that should be easy. I'll just go buy a door 228 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 4: from the dealer. Nope, I have to buy the whole 229 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 4: unit and the sub assembly. So a door that should 230 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,319 Speaker 4: be maybe forty fifty dollars is now a three hundred 231 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:54,319 Speaker 4: dollars subassembly. 232 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 2: It's crazy, right, It makes no sense when I had that, 233 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 2: When I had that problem with the Escape turbocharger line kit. 234 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 2: You know. The first thought I had was that I 235 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 2: went to the Dorman website and I started because Dorman 236 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 2: will typically, you know, they'll they'll take those stupid subassemblies 237 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 2: that nobody makes and they'll make them. And I've actually 238 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 2: sent a suggestion and explaining the turbo charger issue on 239 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 2: the escape that I, you know, make this section of line. 240 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 2: Why not? It just it would just have been so 241 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 2: much easier, would take a two hour job and turn 242 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 2: it into a twenty minute job, you know, So don't 243 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 2: be surprised if someday you find a Lexus cabin filled 244 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 2: the door over. You know, Dorman's Dorman's website, go to 245 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:33,319 Speaker 2: Dorman Products dot com. Keep that in the back of 246 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 2: your head for future issues. 247 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 4: So I'd wait. But for right now, electrical tape is 248 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 4: my friend. 249 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 2: Well yeah, and duct tape. Listen, duct tape doesn't a 250 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 2: lot of things that you can't normally do. So, but 251 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 2: that's not why you're calling in today, is it? 252 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 4: No let break? 253 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:47,319 Speaker 3: Yes? 254 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 4: So, ron I did my due diligence, and I thought 255 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 4: I did, and I bought some pads and roaders for 256 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 4: my independent mechanic and I didn't buy the cheapest stuff. 257 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 4: I bought coded roaders and ceramic pads. But they're not 258 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 4: the you know, the the name brands, the AQI bonos 259 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 4: and so forth. Oh gosh, I think, gosh, I can't 260 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 4: really remember. We're on a power stop or something. 261 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 2: Power I don't know, power stop. That's what I wanted 262 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 2: to know. Power stops a great break bit. 263 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, but okay, So then what happened is I got 264 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 4: them installed and after a little while. So, by the way, 265 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 4: they have about maybe six thousand miles on it. It's 266 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 4: the dealers said, it's eight millimeters. So they're like, you know, 267 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 4: barely broken in, right, So they squeal. So every morning 268 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 4: they squeal, and I'm so embarrassed, like I'm driving on a lemon, 269 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 4: you know. And then when they when they heat up 270 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:41,439 Speaker 4: a bit, they stop squealing. And then if the car 271 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 4: sits for a few hours, they do the squeal. So 272 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 4: the squeal is not all the time, you know. So 273 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 4: the dealer advisor told me we'll just drive it. It should 274 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 4: quote clear up on its own. And the Independent said, no, no, 275 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 4: you bought the wrong stuff. You should replace your rotors 276 00:13:57,960 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 4: and pads. And I said, what, it's only eight million 277 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 4: middle meters and five six thousand miles on it, so 278 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 4: it seems a little premature. What do you think? I 279 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 4: told this independent to take it off and maybe do 280 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 4: some surface cleaning and stuff, and he was really not 281 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 4: into that. He just wanted to tell me new parts 282 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 4: all around. 283 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 2: So I can answer this about four different ways. The 284 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 2: first thought is that you know you may be in 285 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 2: a hole here because you brought your lettuce and tomato 286 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 2: to the diner and sit here, make me a salad, 287 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 2: and if you get intogestion, it's your issue, not theirs, 288 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 2: provided they made the salad correctly. So what I would 289 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 2: want to know is did they use Caliber grease? And 290 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 2: that's a real thing. There's products like CRC makes something 291 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 2: called CRC caliber grease. It is a specific silicon break 292 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 2: rated break related grease that would go on the Caliber 293 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 2: slide pins that would go on the contact points of 294 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 2: the brake pad to provide so that the pads could 295 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 2: move freely and not find and not chatter and not 296 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 2: create noise. They CRC, as long as we're on the subject, 297 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 2: also makes it's the orange group in a bottle, is 298 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 2: how I remember it? Then the brand name actually escapes me, 299 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 2: but I know CRC makes it which you would put 300 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 2: on the back of the pads as an insulator against noise, 301 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 2: And did they do any of that or have they 302 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 2: tried any of that? Now, power Stop if we're talking 303 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 2: power stop pads, and maybe power stop rotors, because power 304 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 2: Stop does make a coded rotor. We use them all 305 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 2: the time. They work great. So if you find out 306 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 2: that's what you used, I'm going to tell you that 307 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 2: it would be odd for you to have that problem, 308 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 2: and I would look more towards in Stoller error. What 309 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 2: you can try is and this is real simple. This 310 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 2: is something you can do tomorrow or today when you 311 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 2: go out in the car for the first time, find 312 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 2: a quiet stretch of road and when no one's around, 313 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 2: back up slowly eight nine, ten, fifteen miles an hour 314 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 2: and start popping the brake pedal hard. You want to 315 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 2: scuff the pad in the opposite direction. You want to 316 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 2: break the bond of friction. If I can say it 317 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 2: like that, it's almost like think if you were sending 318 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 2: a piece of wood, you want to go against the grain. 319 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 2: And if there are hard spots on the brake pad, 320 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 2: if something didn't see properly after the break, repair it's 321 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 2: going to knock that fuzz off, makes sense, yes, and 322 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 2: see if that eliminates the noise or changes the noise. Okay, 323 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 2: And then it's a conversation with whoever installed it, can 324 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 2: you you know, are you sure? Can you tell me? 325 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 2: And you know, it gets a little insulting because you're 326 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 2: questioning their workmanship, and so you've got to do the 327 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 2: delicate dance, you know, are you sure that you you know, 328 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 2: did you put anti chatter? Did you put a dielectric 329 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 2: grace where you were supposed to? And you know, is 330 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 2: it possible? 331 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 4: It's that I asked for you the hardware as well 332 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 4: ron making the hardware. 333 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, and listen, you know, honest the industry says change 334 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 2: hardware every break job. Does everybody do it? No? Do 335 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 2: I do it? 336 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 3: No? 337 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 2: Why? Because a lot of times the hardware that's on 338 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 2: there is really clean and the oe hardware works really well, 339 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 2: and a lot of times you don't want to disturb 340 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 2: it because you don't have issues. But you have to 341 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 2: clean the hardware, wire brush, scrub it down, make sure 342 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 2: it's you know, there's no rust, there's no corrosion. Typically, 343 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 2: hardware becomes a second break job related issue, not necessarily 344 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 2: a first time break job related issue. But go back 345 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:34,439 Speaker 2: and try those things, see what that does. If that 346 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 2: doesn't work, by all means, give me a call back 347 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 2: and we can talk about it some more. Deep Pock. 348 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 2: I hope the rest of your summer goes well, my friend. 349 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 2: So eight five five five six zero nine nine zero zero. 350 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 2: I'm running ay in the car. Doctor, I'll be back 351 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:51,439 Speaker 2: right after this. Hey, I'm just warning everybody that football 352 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 2: season has started. So Tom's already keeping track of the Giants. 353 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 2: So if we do go off the air, that means 354 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 2: Tom faint that fell over, hit the board and wiped 355 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 2: everything out because she thinks the Giants will amount of 356 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 2: something this season. 357 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: But well, if you see the thing starting to throw 358 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 1: things on the video link, you know what's going on. 359 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 2: Right, That's what I kind of figured. So just let's 360 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 2: keep in mind this is a car show. This isn't 361 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 2: sports talk. Let's go over and talk to Dan in 362 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 2: Tennessee sixty eight Dodgs dark uh right, I tell you 363 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 2: these football guys, Dan, it's it's hard to be a 364 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 2: football fan here in New York, New Jersey, the Tri 365 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 2: state area. So someday we're going to get a team, 366 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 2: I'm hoping. So what's going on? Kittle? 367 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 5: Thank you for thinking cars. None of the bout thing 368 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 5: on that one. No, I've got to not sixty eight 369 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 5: dollard I'm trying to put together on Okay, I got 370 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 5: a brand new naner Areyan out of California. I guess 371 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 5: it may be the same spects on the late springs. 372 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 5: Thing is Fender Whales from the area. But the guy's 373 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 5: got a set of wheels. Uh, it's going to the 374 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 5: bigger boat pattern. It's the five four factory, right, I'm 375 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 5: going four and a half. H Well, my question is 376 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 5: eight antil I still use a seventy inch tire. I've 377 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 5: got two inches from a lay sprang two inches from 378 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 5: Fender Whale. Well, that seventy series. 379 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 2: Sounds it sounds reasonable, but I think we have to 380 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 2: have a bigger conversation. 381 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 3: Right. 382 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 2: So, so is the Dana rear the same with right 383 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 2: as the factory rear? 384 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, I should have ordered it there. 385 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 2: But right, well, it's never too late to narrow. You 386 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 2: just cut the tubes and weld the flanges on and 387 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 2: you know, now's the time. Now's the time to correct it. 388 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 2: Don't wait until after you get it in the car. 389 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 5: You have shortened axles too, well. 390 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:46,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, sure you'd have to go, you know, do everything, 391 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 2: so you'd sell those axles and just buy shorter axles. 392 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 2: But you know, and I always encourage everybody to do this. 393 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 2: And I'm listen, you've built a few cars in your 394 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 2: in your lifetime. I can tell, all right, this isn't 395 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 2: a This isn't a you know, for the faint of heart, 396 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 2: endeavor what you're trying to do, and I applaud you. 397 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:03,880 Speaker 2: I think it's kind of neat. I have some great 398 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 2: dart memories from my childhood. I remember getting picked up 399 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 2: by I was hitchhiking Russell and I and I remember 400 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 2: getting picked up by two guys in a dart and 401 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 2: they had put a four forty in it. Actually it 402 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 2: was a sixty eight. They had changed the K frame 403 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 2: and they put a four forty in it. And I 404 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 2: still remember the burnout they did downtown Main Street rams 405 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 2: you all the way to the railroad tracks and beyond. 406 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 2: It was just amazing. So you know, it's it's I 407 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 2: get what you're doing here? What are you doing? Though? 408 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 2: In the sense of how wild do you want this 409 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,919 Speaker 2: to be? Is this going to be just something the 410 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 2: cruise nice with but I doubt it you're putting a 411 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 2: data in it, so you know what motors in it? 412 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:45,120 Speaker 5: And got I've got a three sixty in it and 413 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 5: I couldn't find the block complete block. 414 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 2: Right, so you know it's it's but it's got a 415 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 2: good cam and everything right. You want something with a 416 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,199 Speaker 2: little you know, dump and pumping away we go, and 417 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 2: you know, maybe maybe a seventy series tire. And this 418 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 2: is my point, depending on what you're gonna do, a 419 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 2: seventy series tire is probably more than enough. You know, 420 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,199 Speaker 2: we've we've all reached the age where there's always somebody 421 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 2: faster and we don't need to be We don't need 422 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 2: to be the fastest, you know, we don't need to 423 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 2: be the fastest car in the valley anymore. Those days 424 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 2: are long gone. 425 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 3: And you know, and the ability right listen for a 426 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,959 Speaker 3: mile block or big block and I'll put it in 427 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 3: with the dinerarian night, a new bush and and everything and. 428 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 2: You are so so if you leave at the stock 429 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 2: the stock with Dana, you know it's really or you know, 430 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 2: whatever the factory was, it's really a matter of what 431 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 2: fit under a stock Dart two twenty five seventy fifteens 432 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 2: fit to forty five seventy fifteens if I remember right fit. 433 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 2: But they were getting kind of snug, you know. So 434 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 2: it's it's it's a matter of fitment. It's a it's 435 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 2: a good problem to have because you've got a variety 436 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 2: of things that will work on that. But it's also 437 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 2: you know, what do you want the stance to be 438 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 2: on the car? Do you want it level all around? 439 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 2: Do you want a little higher in the back, and 440 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 2: all those are the things you got to start to 441 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 2: think about. 442 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, right, I'm all have it. I've got iris shock 443 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 5: selling it, but I'm all have probably just four to 444 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 5: six inches higher than in the back, right. 445 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 2: Right, And you've got to think about that too, right, 446 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 2: you know, Listen, some of the fastest cars I ever 447 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 2: had or were in sat level or they were just 448 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 2: a skoshup in the back, and when the nose came up, 449 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,919 Speaker 2: it was the idea weight transfer planted the tires on 450 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 2: the ground harder. So you can't I guess this is 451 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 2: my point, Dan, You can't think about any one thing. 452 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 2: Tire size predicates on horsepower. Horse Power predicates on suspension, 453 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 2: Suspension predicates on hookup what are we trying to do? 454 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 2: You've you know, Billy, my first boss May rest in peace, 455 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 2: always taught me you've got to look at a car 456 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 2: as a package. Everything works with everything else. That's why 457 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 2: it's all attached together. So so you know, what do 458 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 2: you want to achieve with this? Some of the nastiest 459 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 2: cars I've ever seen. You ever watched cars at the 460 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 2: drag strip, the ones that really hook up, you ever know? 461 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 2: You ever notice how they lift from the center right right, 462 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,199 Speaker 2: There's no there's no way transfer. The whole car just 463 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 2: seems to go straight up in the air and hooks 464 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:24,439 Speaker 2: up and it's gone. And you know a lot of 465 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 2: that's based on how you make that suspension work and 466 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 2: how you put that suspension and chassis together. And that's 467 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 2: what's important. 468 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, I've got an eight and three quarter positive getting 469 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 5: it under it, and the reason is changing the boat 470 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:37,400 Speaker 5: fighter and taking it out. 471 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: Uh. 472 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 5: It hooks up now, it does not spind. It hooks 473 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 5: and goals now right, well, probably do well? 474 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 2: You know, you know, we can always look at it 475 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 2: as like, let's let's make it more complicated. All we 476 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 2: can do is screw it up, so you know, and 477 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,919 Speaker 2: you know that's what I always Sometimes I also remember 478 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 2: something else Billy always taught me. Billy always said, mild 479 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 2: goes wild, and I never forgot that. And you know, 480 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 2: sometimes the simplest things work the best, and we all 481 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 2: seem to overcompensate. I always look at the guys that 482 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 2: put you ever look at the crazy ignition systems, guys 483 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 2: putting hot rods and muscle cars MSD, this multi spark 484 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 2: discharge that and the cargoes thirteen too. Wow, I'm really impressed, 485 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 2: you know where you know stock ignition. The car was 486 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 2: going thirteen to three? So what did they gain? 487 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 6: Right? 488 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 3: You know? 489 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 2: So I guess the lecture, And I don't mean to lecture. 490 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,919 Speaker 2: I respect every hot roder out there, you know what. 491 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 2: Just understand what you're doing and what you're trying to do, 492 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 2: and what results are you looking for and can you 493 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 2: achieve that? That's really it. You want to look that's different. 494 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 2: You want to make it go. That's a different conversation. 495 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 2: I think what you're doing is great. I think a 496 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 2: data is probably the way to go. It's stronger than 497 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 2: an eight and three quarter for sure, But I would 498 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 2: probably stay with either stock or maybe a scoch More 499 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 2: rubber on the ground just to feel the Wheelwell, all right, 500 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 2: to me, it'll we're a little bit of a better look. 501 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:02,919 Speaker 2: But it's not me, it's up to you. It's what 502 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 2: you want. 503 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 5: It's your car look too. But I don't want to run. 504 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,719 Speaker 5: You know, if you're go in a car, it tailts 505 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 5: the tire to the spraying the body. 506 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 2: Now you know, keep in mind too, and then I'll 507 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 2: let you go, dan Is. Keep in mind that the 508 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 2: size rim with the correct backspace, maybe you could run. 509 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 2: Maybe you could run a street slick on it for 510 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 2: Friday night Crewis and that would get everybody's attention to 511 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 2: whether you spend the tires or not. Just make everybody 512 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:31,880 Speaker 2: look into a double take. 513 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 5: So all right, this is right money trial, right, A. 514 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 2: Lot of it is trial and error. Brother, And at 515 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,199 Speaker 2: this point there's a lot of guys out there that 516 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 2: have done it, and it's a matter of we can 517 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 2: just read and follow and see and play in tune. 518 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,679 Speaker 2: And it was a lot easier when we were kids, right, 519 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 2: I remember being a dumb kid taking a taking a 520 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 2: what was it? It was a four inch bor Chevy block 521 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 2: and a two eighty three crank. It was a three 522 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 2: twenty seven block a two eighty three crank, I put 523 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 2: it together, made a three two. After I did that, 524 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 2: five years later, somebody said you can't do that, and 525 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 2: I said, well it's too late because I already did 526 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 2: it and the car's gone. So you know, the things 527 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 2: we don't know that we don't know that somehow worked, Dan. 528 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 2: I appreciate the conversation, sir. Good luck to you and 529 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 2: I hope this. I hope you got something out of this. 530 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 2: And if you need anything else more, you know where 531 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 2: to find me. 532 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 5: All right, Okay, God bless and have a safe day. 533 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 2: Thank you, sir, you too. I'm running ady in the car. Doctor. 534 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 2: We'll be back right after this. Well, I see Virginia's 535 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 2: coming in loud and clear, one of our three affiliates. 536 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 2: Let's go over and talk to Dale. Dale You there, sir, Yeah, 537 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 2: I'm here, So tell me about your eady four Ltd. 538 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 6: Okay, here's the problem that the way I found I 539 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,120 Speaker 6: had a problem. I went to a restaurant one day 540 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,120 Speaker 6: and it took me thirty minutes to get there. All right, 541 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,880 Speaker 6: I shut the engine off, I went in eight came 542 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,439 Speaker 6: back out forty five minutes later to start it at 543 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 6: and it miss is real bad. It's just like you 544 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 6: went out there and pulled two spark clug wars off, 545 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 6: and when you give any RPMs, there is no RPMs. 546 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 6: You put the accelerator owy floor and it does absolutely nothing. 547 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,120 Speaker 6: But if you sit and wait a minute and a half, 548 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 6: it clears itself right back up and you go on, 549 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 6: what the hell is it? 550 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 2: Okay, well, so what's your first reaction? Because I can 551 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 2: tell you've already got some preconceived ideas. Do you think 552 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 2: this is fuel related or ignition related? 553 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 6: Oh? It has to be ignition because I burned non 554 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,679 Speaker 6: f andol gas. Because the f andol gas I lose 555 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 6: two and a quarter miles per gallon. Okay, so I 556 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 6: don't burn that crap? 557 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 5: Can you? 558 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 2: Can you replicate this? It will? Will this happen every 559 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:48,199 Speaker 2: time if you'll let it sit and go through a 560 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 2: forty five minute heat soak. 561 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, every time, every time. 562 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 2: So why don't we eliminate instead of looking for what's bed? 563 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 2: Why don't we eliminate what's good? Can we do a 564 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 2: fuel pressure test? I know it's going to be a 565 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 2: little awkward hooking up to an EFI, but there's got 566 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 2: to be a way whether we pull the filter out 567 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 2: and tap into that. But why don't we least verify 568 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,959 Speaker 2: system fuel pressure on the forty five year old vehicle 569 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,679 Speaker 2: and at least get rid of that and take that 570 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 2: off the table. The ignition system on this do have 571 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 2: you had the Have you had the the ignition rotor 572 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 2: out of this car? The distributor cap off? Have you 573 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 2: looked inside the distributor? 574 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 6: Yeah? I looked at it and couldn't find anything wrong 575 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 6: with Okay. 576 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 2: Is this is this a multi layer ignition rotor or 577 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 2: a single layer ignition rotor. It's a single so it's 578 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 2: one point of contact. What color I want you to 579 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 2: pull the cap back off? Look at the there's a 580 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 2: hall effect or a stat or piece, which was the 581 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 2: pole piece? 582 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:38,719 Speaker 6: Right? 583 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 2: This is electronic ignition this generation. Is this the silver 584 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 2: ignition box over on the fenderwell ignition Duras spark dur 585 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 2: as spark free me. So look inside the distributor. What 586 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 2: color is the pole piece connector? Where the ignition module 587 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 2: the ignition? Is there an ignition module in the body 588 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 2: of the distributor or? Is it it's on the fender. 589 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 6: Well or both It's on the fender wheel. 590 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 2: Okay, So where that connects in. This connects in. There's 591 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 2: two pigtails correct at the distributor to oval shiped pigtails. Okay, 592 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 2: so this doesn't have the hale effect on the inside. 593 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 2: This is a pole piece. Uh you know, is this ignition? 594 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 2: I'm thinking you've got more likely a fuel related issue here. 595 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 2: I want to know that fuel is okay, Because this 596 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 2: is an e FI car. Fuel comes out of the 597 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 2: center throttle body. 598 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 6: Uh huh all right, Oh no, no, wait wait a 599 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 6: minute now, it's electronic fuel injection right right on the side. 600 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an e FI car. It's a throttle body 601 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 2: electronic fuel injection car. 602 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 6: Oh is that what they call it? 603 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's. It's it's it's got a two barrel piece. 604 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 2: It looks like a two barrel carburetor with an air intake, 605 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 2: and it's got a central injector mounted right in the 606 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 2: throttle body itself, right, and you can actually sit there 607 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 2: and watch it spray. Yeah, okay. 608 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 3: Uh. 609 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 2: You know there's a method we used to use, you know, 610 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 2: if we want to look at quality fuel pattern. Do 611 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 2: you still own a timing light you? Oh yeah, okay, 612 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 2: you know you could hook up your timing light and 613 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 2: use its strobe effect to look at the spray pattern 614 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 2: coming out of the shower head of the injector. It's 615 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 2: kind of it's kind of an interesting thing. You'll see 616 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 2: if the fuel is coming out in globs, or if 617 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 2: the fuel is coming out in a fine shower head. 618 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 2: There's a bunch of different there's a bunch of different 619 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 2: tricks we can do. What I'm trying to point out 620 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 2: is if is this really an ignition problem or is 621 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 2: this a fuel problem? And because of the age of it, 622 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 2: it's going to be difficult because of tooling and information. 623 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 2: If this were in the shop, first thing I want 624 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 2: to do is fuel pressure. I want to know I've 625 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 2: got good fuel pressure. 626 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 6: Okay, let me stop you right there. Okay, Now the 627 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 6: engine was retotally rebuilt. Don't care twenty two thousand miles ago. 628 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 2: Don't care because it's it's I don't think this is 629 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 2: an engine mechanical I mean, I do care, but I 630 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 2: don't care. I don't think this is an engine mechanical condition. 631 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 2: Right unless somebody's got unless somewhere somebody's got an incorrect 632 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 2: ground that they didn't reattach or I've got a ground 633 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 2: attached to a painted surface. Area that but by you 634 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 2: would have had that problem right out of the gate, 635 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 2: not twenty two thousand miles later. Right, So I want 636 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 2: to know what's fuel pressure at the point of failure? 637 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 2: Do you have any propaine around the house, you know 638 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 2: in the show? Can we provide pro paine enrichment if 639 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 2: you think this is If we think this is fuel related, 640 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 2: if we give it a little bit more fuel, what 641 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 2: does it do to the car? Does it make the 642 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 2: car run better or worse? Is this car running leaner? Rich? 643 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 2: And that's the other side of this. Could this car 644 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 2: have a rich condition? 645 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 6: We do? 646 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 2: We have a problem there, this car should have. This 647 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 2: car still has oxygen sensors in eighty four, correct, right? 648 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 2: I Can I look at the two sensors? Do I 649 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 2: have an O two sensor that's biased and stuck in 650 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 2: one direction or another? And you'll never pick it up 651 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 2: with a scan tool or the diagnostics capable of an 652 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 2: eighty four automobile. I might have to look at it 653 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 2: on a scope. I might have to look at it 654 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,479 Speaker 2: with a meter. Let's do this in stages, all right, Dale, 655 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 2: check fuel pressure, call me back and let me know 656 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 2: what you find, and then we can talk deeper all right, 657 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 2: because the clock's going to take me. I don't want 658 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 2: to leave you hanging. So find out what fuel pressure is. 659 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 2: Give me a shout back, and we'll do a deeper 660 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 2: dive and we'll talk about this together. But don't eliminate 661 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 2: the obvious, and don't look for what's bad, look for 662 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 2: what's good, and we'll come to a conclusion of what's failing. 663 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 2: Ron and Andy and the car Doctor. I'll be back 664 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 2: right after this. Hey, let's do this. We're flying in 665 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 2: a pinch here. Let's go help one of the boys 666 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 2: in blue, Mark wrights In, Mark Miller, Newburgh, New York. Ron, 667 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 2: longtime listener to the show, began listening in the nineties. 668 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 2: I'm feeling old while patrolling the streets of NYC and 669 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 2: a New York Police Department car quick with an AM radio. 670 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 2: They had those, huh. I'm looking for help and sourcing 671 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 2: a replacement manager for my son's twenty seventeen Ford Focus. 672 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 2: I'm sorry with the infamous one lead three cylinder motor. 673 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 2: I'm really sorry, five speed manual. Now I get why 674 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 2: we're going to fix this. The car iss one hundred 675 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 2: and fifteen thousand miles on it, and I'm certainly smoked 676 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 2: the head guess that the car was losing cooling over 677 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 2: an extended period of time and ultimately overheated and was 678 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 2: driven a distance. Yeah, it's a learning moment, Mark, right, 679 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 2: We're going to talk to our son and this is 680 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 2: how we teach them and hopefully they pick out a 681 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 2: good retirement home for us to live in. At this point, 682 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 2: cool and level drops quickly with no signs of external leaking. 683 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 2: There's plenty of white smoke out the exhaust. I have 684 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 2: a well equipped home shop in Newburgh, New York. Do 685 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 2: you have any suggestions on where to source a reman. 686 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what I would probably if we're going 687 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 2: to do this, I'd go find a local machine shop 688 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 2: with a reputation, somebody I could talk to and go 689 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 2: the extra freight and pay to have somebody build me 690 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 2: an engine, Somebody I can go back to if I 691 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 2: have a problem, Somebody that's not going to do something 692 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 2: assembly line, but particular in custom to that vehicle. That's 693 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 2: the way I would justify it. Mark. If you need more, 694 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 2: you know where to find me. I'm ronning Andy and 695 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 2: the car Doctor till the next time. Good mechanics aren't 696 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 2: expensive they're priceless. See uh