1 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to brain Stuff, a production of I Heart Radio, 2 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: Hey brain Stuff, Lauren Vogel Bomb here with another classic 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: podcast episode. This one delves into the tricksy world of 4 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 1: nutrition and dietary supplements, with a focus on one particular 5 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: type that's gotten both hype and flak fish oil pills, 6 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: Hey brain Stuff, Lauren Vogel bomb Here. Nutrition is complicated. 7 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: Eggs at one time were considered awful for you, cholesterol bombs, 8 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 1: heart killers, dietary death. Now even the American Heart Association 9 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: says that a few eggs a week, no matter they're 10 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 1: high flying cholesterol content, may be good for you and 11 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: your heart. The story of fish oil supplements, which are 12 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 1: pills that contain a Mega three fatty acids considered critically 13 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: to be good fats to have in your diet, is similar, 14 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: only reversed. At one time, regularly popping a fish oil 15 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: pill was considered hugely beneficial for mental health, cardiovascular health, 16 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: brain health, and to aid in the health of unborn babies, 17 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: among other benefits. But earlier this year, a British meta 18 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: study that covered seventy seven thousand, nine hundred and seventeen 19 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: heart patients was released, and it said that fish oil 20 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: supplements quote had no significant association with reductions in fatal 21 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: or non fatal coronary heart disease or any major vascular events. 22 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 1: In other words, the pills didn't do anything for these 23 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 1: heart patients in terms of heart attacks and strokes. Suddenly, 24 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: fish oil supplements weren't quite the magic pill that some 25 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: took them to be. So what's the health conscious consumer 26 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: to think. We spoke with Dr herzel Gerstein, a Canadian 27 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: endocrinologist and one of the studies authors, who said, I 28 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: think the overall message is when you look at the 29 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: best evidence in the world taken together synthesized in this way, overall, 30 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: there's really no scientific justification to go out and buy 31 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: omega three fatty acid supplements if you think you're going 32 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: to be preventing heart attacks and strokes, because there's no 33 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: evidence you will. That study dealt specifically with dietary supplements. 34 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: Many reputable places, including the National Institutes of Health, the 35 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 1: Harvard School of Public Health, and yes, the American Heart Association, 36 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: still tout the need for omega threes. Two problems exist 37 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 1: in getting enough omega three fatty acids, though your body 38 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: doesn't make them most types anyway, So you have to 39 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: get them in your diet, and many American diets don't 40 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 1: include the main food sources of omega threees, things like soybeans, 41 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: flax seed, and cold water fatty fish like salmon, tuna, mackerel, 42 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: and sardines. That's why many consider fish oil supplements I must. 43 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: According to the Council for Responsible Nutrition, some sixteen percent 44 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: of American adults take omega three fatty acids in supplement form, 45 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: with tens of millions of Americans popping fish oil pills 46 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: spending millions of dollars. The manufacturers of these supplements aren't 47 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: going to go quietly on suggestions that their products don't work. 48 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: We also spoke with Douglas Uffie mackay, the Senior Vice 49 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: president for Scientific and Regulatory Affairs for the Council for 50 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: Responsible Nutrition, the leading trade association for the dietary, supplement 51 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: and functional food industry. He said this study was about 52 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: high risk cardiovascular heart disease individuals and determining if omega 53 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,519 Speaker 1: three fatty assets would act essentially like a drug, a 54 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: nutritional drug to help prevent future cardiac events. But the 55 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: bottom line for the general population is is it still 56 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:31,239 Speaker 1: an essential nutrient that plays incredibly important roles in human nutrition, 57 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: balancing inflammation. It's part of cell membranes, it's part of 58 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: cells communicating with one another, and Americans just don't eat 59 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: a lot of cold water fatty fish that provides these 60 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: important nutrients. Thus, mackay contends, if sardines and flax seed 61 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: aren't on your weekly shopping list, you ought to consider 62 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: supplements even if they don't stop heart attacks in high 63 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: risk cardiovascular cases, because your body still needs them. For 64 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: his part, Gerstein, who's a professor in the Department of 65 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: Medicine at McMaster University in Hamilton, Ontario, agrees that omega 66 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: three's are essential and that a diet high in omega 67 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: three'es indeed may be beneficial, although the science behind that 68 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: is still unsettled. He said, there is some evidence from 69 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: the dietary literature that there may be a benefit to it. 70 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: This research does not in any way refute that when 71 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 1: you think of the dietary literature, though, if someone decides 72 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: they're going to eat a diet high in omega three 73 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 1: fatty acids, that means they're also reducing other things such 74 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: as maybe red meat. So if there's a benefit, maybe 75 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: it's because they're replacing harmful things with Omega three's. The 76 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 1: main question comes down to whether people are getting enough 77 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: omegathreees in their diets and what can be done about 78 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: it if not. McKay says most people don't get enough 79 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 1: and suggest supplements in consultation with a doctor as a 80 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 1: possible answer. Gersteine says most people do, though if they don't, 81 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: it's something that should be discussed with a doctor. The 82 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: good news is that taking a regular fish oil pill 83 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: as a supplement doesn't seem to do any harm, except 84 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: Gerstine says, all those extra fatty acids, not to mention 85 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 1: all the money's spent, may end up quite literally down 86 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: the drain. He said, you're making expensive urine. Today's episode 87 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 1: is based on the article the Case for and Against 88 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: taking fish oil pills on how stuff works dot com, 89 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 1: written by John Donovan. Brain Stuff is production of by 90 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: Heart Radio in partnership with how stuff works dot Com, 91 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: and it's produced by Tyler Clang. 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