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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast is all football, no narrative.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another dish, the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hands and I am joined by

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Speaker 1: a room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Wesling, that

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Speaker 1: Greg Rosen though, what's up? Bause what's happening? I hope

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Speaker 1: you guys are proud of yourselves about what happened earlier

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Speaker 1: today during the swag pick up. I am shocked that

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Speaker 1: this came up in the podcast. It took you all

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Speaker 1: of fifteen seconds. I gotta walk out. Every year there's

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Speaker 1: a giveaway of Super Bowl um memorabilia and T shirts

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Speaker 1: and things that the employees get. And uh. I was

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Speaker 1: finishing up at Gary Kubiak post for Greg and the

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Speaker 1: four of us sitting up for Greg. It's not Greg

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Speaker 1: dot com and NFL dot com. And I say, I

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Speaker 1: said to the group, Gary Kubiak speaks. The world needs

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Speaker 1: to know. I said to the group, I said, hey, uh,

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Speaker 1: swag day. Today's a swag bag day. Greg shoots up

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Speaker 1: out of his chair and say, oh, let's go get

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Speaker 1: it before we go lunch. They start walking away and

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Speaker 1: I said, hey, give me, give me like a minute.

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Speaker 1: I need to tweet out the scoob back story left

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Speaker 1: without me. I didn't know that the boss issue in order,

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Speaker 1: So I didn't know you requested to wait for you.

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Speaker 1: Then I wouldn't I wouldn't have left. But the whole

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Speaker 1: point was we were all gonna be going to lunch together,

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Speaker 1: and so I figured, this is something we need to

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Speaker 1: lunch together. I'm just gonna go do that. I didn't

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Speaker 1: know that we all had to walk in unison at

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Speaker 1: all times. Let the record show that I pointed out

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Speaker 1: knowing the last time this happened, the first walk out. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the time, whether would be repercussions if we didn't, if

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Speaker 1: we left you behind. So I held the door open

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Speaker 1: for a while, and then I saw those guys going

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Speaker 1: through the other door, so I kind of left. Greg.

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Speaker 1: You should know I'm motivated mostly by slights perceived slights. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And I also know because I was watching it the

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Speaker 1: whole time. I was anning and I said, Greg's leading

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Speaker 1: with Greg. We're all going to lunch together two minutes later,

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna put it out there. This is a

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Speaker 1: culture that Greg's created. Remember before Greg came and somebody

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Speaker 1: would sneeze in the cubicle and someone would say bless you.

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Speaker 1: When Gregg came, people stop saying blessed now here it's

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Speaker 1: saying do you do you really want to? In your defense, Chris,

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Speaker 1: Chris did bring up he was a little worried, and

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Speaker 1: Mark also had some it seems like some consternation. Do

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Speaker 1: you want to be known because we're gonna hear about

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Speaker 1: it for the next exactly three weeks. You want to

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Speaker 1: be known as the guy that everyone feels like you

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Speaker 1: have to walk around egg on eggshells? That the D

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Speaker 1: word did come up a few times, you know, dude,

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Speaker 1: you told that, you said you you actually said recently

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Speaker 1: you don't want to be coddled. You know, we were

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Speaker 1: just walking over there walking back. I didn't know it

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Speaker 1: was a thing. It hurt. It hurt, and I even

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Speaker 1: made a point that, oh, this is my first grab bag.

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Speaker 1: My employment status changed within the company recently, and I

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Speaker 1: was excited to do it with you guys. You left

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Speaker 1: me behind. I think what you're talking about here's a

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Speaker 1: general breakdown and values. Thank you. By the way, we're

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Speaker 1: just getting in line to pick up something and then

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Speaker 1: and then I had a deal. There's nothing indignation of

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Speaker 1: getting on the line of being four spots behind you. Guys,

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Speaker 1: who and what happened? Then you came back Mark and

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Speaker 1: at me. Well, coup all your behavior was a little

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Speaker 1: you know, a little bit ill conceived because you're because

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Speaker 1: you're such a sweet guy. Mark. You knew it was bad,

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Speaker 1: but you let the bully Greg lead the charge and

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Speaker 1: you were guilty. Then you hit out at me. This

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Speaker 1: is where if this were in writing, there'd be an

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Speaker 1: asterix and it would say you go to the bottom

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Speaker 1: of the page. Fifteen minutes later, west Stan and Greg

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Speaker 1: have no problem leaving to go to lunch while Mark

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Speaker 1: writes a post on Mark Trustman bombs. But but it's

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Speaker 1: like no one would have said, wait a minute, but

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Speaker 1: that's not gentlemanly enough. Let's sit and wait for Mark

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Speaker 1: to write his Mark Trustment post. Then we'll all go

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Speaker 1: have lunch together. If it's so, we don't we do

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Speaker 1: everything together. The whole thing was we were about to

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Speaker 1: It was like going to the bathroom before lunch. But

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Speaker 1: it was like the football gods the other day punished

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Speaker 1: the football gods he heard the storm going around our desk.

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Speaker 1: And you know where I'm going with this, Dan. I

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Speaker 1: think the minute we got back, or just before we

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Speaker 1: you were behind in line, big breaking news happened. And

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Speaker 1: if we're all gone, Mark Trestman got the job here

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Speaker 1: with Baltimore. If we're all gone there together, no one

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Speaker 1: at the NFL is on the desk to start that.

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Speaker 1: Mark Trestman is going to Baltimore and the world waits

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Speaker 1: By the way I was, that's all good, that's all good.

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Speaker 1: Do you know what the best line of this whole

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Speaker 1: thing was Greg saying, do you think we should plan

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Speaker 1: our lives around your thirteen year old girl mentality? Which,

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Speaker 1: by the way, sexist, Wall Greg is, while we're here,

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Speaker 1: that was sexist, And I was so stunned by the

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Speaker 1: know where this ends. Like do we all should we

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Speaker 1: that would be great. Should I walk you out to

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Speaker 1: just saying it wasn't the best moment. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: when Greg, when people sneeze, you should say bless you

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Speaker 1: or consume tight whatever I say, bless you. Reggie. Let's

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Speaker 1: get into the rest of the podcast. Listen, We're all

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Speaker 1: every Webster episode request that's showing up the air. Thirty

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Speaker 1: years ago, he got mad at God because his mom

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Speaker 1: second to last show, um, before we head to Arizona.

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Speaker 1: So this is gonna be a news heavy show. We

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Speaker 1: hand out some awards. Uh. We decided what to call

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Speaker 1: this west Uh Hiring Awards something like that sounds good,

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Speaker 1: the coach Hiring and Firing Awards, the new Hire Awards,

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Speaker 1: the new Hire Awards. There, that sounds good. That's it's workable. Uh.

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Speaker 1: So we'll get to that uh after the news. But

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Speaker 1: some news, buddy, Come on, t D. I believe that

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Speaker 1: is Indy Sarah's little girl, who sent a sound clip

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Speaker 1: What do you know, Ellie? Very good, Dudie, starting to

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Speaker 1: great father one day. You know that he might already

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Speaker 1: be a father. That got a huge laughter of Zach.

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Speaker 1: Maybe Zach knows something that we don't. All right, let's start.

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Speaker 1: Let's start. Let's start with Gary Kubiak, who was introduced

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Speaker 1: on Tuesday as the fifteenth head coach in Denver Bronco's history.

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Speaker 1: He takes over for John Fox who left. I guess

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Speaker 1: there was a decision made that they would part way

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Speaker 1: is amicably, and now Gary Kubiak comes on. He was

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Speaker 1: the same amount of time, if not more than Kubiak,

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Speaker 1: which to me just hammer held the point that yes,

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Speaker 1: Dan is you can't call Dana diva when John Elway

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Speaker 1: as Dan points out, he completely overshadows Gary Kubiak's introductory

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Speaker 1: He felt a little burned. I think there was a

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Speaker 1: lot of difference of opinion where people said, you know,

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Speaker 1: and he's not gonna question Elway, and it's gonna hurt

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Speaker 1: the Bronx flunky to John Elway, Yes I am. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't think Gary Kubiak is that at heart, but

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Speaker 1: that's the dynamic that's going on here. Well, he literally

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Speaker 1: retiring into the next phase. I give Kubiak credit, I

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Speaker 1: about you know, why did you go through all this

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Speaker 1: rigamarole to interview other coaches, wasn't it Kubiak all along?

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Speaker 1: He has this vision of the Broncos as this seamless

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Speaker 1: staff behind the coach. So maybe that's the main reason why.

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Speaker 1: But in the Falcons case, they're gonna get a guy

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Speaker 1: in Kyle Shanahan. That's a respective guy. But I will

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Speaker 1: one thing on Shanahan and Mark maybe you can jump

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Speaker 1: in because he was with the Browns last year. Why

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Speaker 1: people so get so excited about Kyle Shanahan. What has

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Speaker 1: he really done to show himself as a really good

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Speaker 1: offensive coording And I think it's it's very similar to

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Speaker 1: what we just talked about with Kubiak, which is that

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Speaker 1: it's that zone blocking scheme. In Cleveland's running offense went

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Speaker 1: from a league low four touchdowns in two thousand thirteen

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Speaker 1: to fourth in the league with seventeen last year. It's

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Speaker 1: a run based offense. They've got to get some running

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Speaker 1: backs in Atlanta. But Shanahan is a very creative play card.

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Speaker 1: Think when you get in a rhythm too, he gets deadly.

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Speaker 1: I love this pairing. Dan Quinn was my favorite candidate

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Speaker 1: out there, and of course we're ignorant about what he's

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Speaker 1: gonna do as a head coach. We's all a leap

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Speaker 1: of faith with these guys, but first time head coaches,

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Speaker 1: and you're bringing in an offensive mind like Kyle Shannon.

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Speaker 1: And here's why I love the hire dan. When he

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Speaker 1: was with Kubiak in Houston, the years that Shanahan ran

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Speaker 1: the offense were by far their best years as an offense.

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Speaker 1: He got the best out of match shop. He goes

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Speaker 1: to the Redskins, slow plays the entire league in the preseason,

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Speaker 1: then unearthed some masterpiece for Robert Griffin's rookie season. He's

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Speaker 1: shown that he can run basically three or four different

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Speaker 1: kinds of offenses, the pistol, the boot, action, a normal

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Speaker 1: he did all play action with Brian Hoyer turned him

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Speaker 1: into a viable starter, which I mean softball pants. Bet

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Speaker 1: that that shocked me that Brian Horror was turned into

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Speaker 1: a viable starter. I I love everything Kyle Shannon's ever

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Speaker 1: done as an offensive coordinate. And like the old coordinators,

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Speaker 1: the annoying ones that we're gonna take our system, bring

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Speaker 1: them to a team and stuffed players into the only

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Speaker 1: offense we know, Shanahan is flexible. He's gonna go make

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Speaker 1: make offense. The offense in Atlanta work around the players.

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Speaker 1: I totally agree. And it's not just that he's good

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Speaker 1: with quarterbacks and it's not just that he has a

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Speaker 1: great running game. He has both of them. And the

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Speaker 1: only exception was when r G three was rushed back

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Speaker 1: from an injury. Thoughts on this, gentleman, No, these guys,

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Speaker 1: they haven't nailed Yeah, I like it. Great work, gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: The Bears have found their new defensive coordinator. His name

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Speaker 1: is vic Fangiol. Vanjo, of course, was the d C

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Speaker 1: of the Niners. Uh. Now he takes over a Bear's

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Speaker 1: defense along with John Fox. Uh. Your thoughts on this high? Great?

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Speaker 1: Your turn take the floor? Why is it my turn

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Speaker 1: turn to talk? Like another one? People are all excited

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Speaker 1: about Vick vic Fangio. He did do a good job

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Speaker 1: in San Francisco. It's a very creative defense to watch.

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Speaker 1: They don't have any talent there, But I think of

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Speaker 1: all the defensive coordinators that were out there, he probably

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Speaker 1: has the most sizzle just in terms of like he's

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Speaker 1: the most fun to watch. If you're a fan of

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Speaker 1: your team and you want to see a creative, aggressive

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Speaker 1: type of defense, he's your guy. Top five defense every

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Speaker 1: year he was in San Francisco, including this year when

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Speaker 1: he lost All Pro Alden Smith, All Pro, Patrick Willis

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Speaker 1: All Pro, Navarro Bowman, turned Antoine Bathet into a star,

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Speaker 1: turned Parish Cox and Chris Culliver into a great cornerback duo,

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Speaker 1: and he's bringing along secondary coach at Donnitell. I believe.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a great parent And really, the Bears

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Speaker 1: are gonna have to go to a three four I

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Speaker 1: would imagine, because that's what Fonzio has always run and

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Speaker 1: had the best linebacker corps of all time in New

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Speaker 1: Orleans as their linebackers coach with Ricky Jackson, Patrick Patrick Swilling,

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Speaker 1: Van Johnson and Sam Mills, and then goes to San

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Speaker 1: Francisco and has the second best or rivaling the Saints

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Speaker 1: for the best linebacker corp of all time. So I

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Speaker 1: think you would you should look for the Bears to

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Speaker 1: take a edge rusher outside linebacker in the first round

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Speaker 1: of the draft. I like that John Fox, who is

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Speaker 1: in theory of defensive minded coach. He's really turned into

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Speaker 1: that coach that it's like, that's not gonna be his defense,

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be ck Fangio's defense. He's not afraid to

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Speaker 1: admit like that he doesn't need to be running the

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Speaker 1: defense at this point. He hires someone that can do

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Speaker 1: it for him. He just kicks back and has a

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Speaker 1: few time And finally we head back to Bill Belichick, who, Uh,

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Speaker 1: last week we heard him praising Andrew Luck. I think

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Speaker 1: he called him a sixth wide receiver at one point,

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Speaker 1: said he was God's gift to football. Now he's praising

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. Anybody picking up a pattern here. He says

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Speaker 1: he's similar to Roger staw back. Russell Wilson is Uh.

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Speaker 1: Here's Belichick's quote during a Tuesday conference call. I can't

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Speaker 1: really put it into words. Well, you gotta think about Belichick,

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Speaker 1: like can really put it into words. Wilson just got

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Speaker 1: an instinctive this. He just knows where people are. It

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Speaker 1: looks like he's going to get tackled and he doesn't.

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Speaker 1: Kind of reminds me of no one can hear you

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Speaker 1: right now, by the way, Yeah, the listeners can't even

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Speaker 1: hear you. You think he doesn't see him, but he

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Speaker 1: sees them or someone knows that. Well, that's an ideal, Belichick.

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Speaker 1: That's a nice job I did right there. If if

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Speaker 1: you know what Belichick saying, you know what I just said,

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Speaker 1: it's not as an offensive. Some guy on Twitter was

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Speaker 1: not happy with one of your invitations. Do you know

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Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. I don't even remember what it was. Hey,

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Speaker 1: Richard Sherman, that was it. I don't remember, Richard. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't remember my Richard sermon. Well, the Belichick O

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Speaker 1: files should be out because this is a this is

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Speaker 1: that's yeah, that one, and I don't think that went over.

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Speaker 1: So I disagree when you get Belichick talking about history

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Speaker 1: and you get him talking about the Naval Academy and

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Speaker 1: his boyhood idol, Roger Stoback. He grew up on the

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Speaker 1: campus of the Naval Academy seeing sto Back play every

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Speaker 1: day to compare his hero and the guy if you

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Speaker 1: watch the sto Back Football life, I believe it was

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Speaker 1: basically Belichick thinks Stacks the greatest player of all time,

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Speaker 1: greatest quarterback, or he's it's his favorite player of all time.

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Speaker 1: To call Russell Wilson that to remind them, that's quite

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Speaker 1: a compliment. This wasn't just coach speak. He went into

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Speaker 1: specifics of why he adores the way Russell Wilson plays,

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Speaker 1: And to me, Bill Belgian, I know this is gonna

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Speaker 1: sound like a ludicrous statement. Has the most comprehensive football

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Speaker 1: knowledge of any man who's ever walked the face of

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Speaker 1: the earth. We've I mean, he's a bipedal football encyclopedia.

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Speaker 1: He has the largest library in the world of American football,

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Speaker 1: according to Peter King. And he's the father of a

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Speaker 1: guy on the campus. He's the son of a man

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Speaker 1: who is thought by many to be the greatest scout

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Speaker 1: in NFL history. So he's basically looking at game film

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Speaker 1: when he was eight years old, tail and tail and

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Speaker 1: his father around and catching passes from Roger Stallback. This

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Speaker 1: is high praise. Well this Roger Stala wantabs on the

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Speaker 1: other team. You know, he's a nice young player. It

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Speaker 1: sounds like he's he's he's just um, you know, getting

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Speaker 1: filling his mind up. Russell wills his mind up and

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Speaker 1: just psyching him out, just like you do with Andrew

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Speaker 1: Love dropped a twelve for thirty three for and two

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Speaker 1: picks after Belichick pumped him up. I think Russell Wilson's

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Speaker 1: He's too caj though, to buy into parcels. I think

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Speaker 1: what Belichick saying is that Russell Wilson has this factor

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Speaker 1: that we wouldn't that, we would never talk about it.

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Speaker 1: We almost laugh about because it's really hard to quantity

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Speaker 1: talking about it. I think that's a I think that's

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Speaker 1: how what he's saying that about Russell Wilson, that the

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Speaker 1: playing the quarterback. What about Tom Brady bro He's got

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Speaker 1: that too, but in a different way. But the quarterback

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Speaker 1: position is about leadership. It's about making the right play

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Speaker 1: at the right time. It's about some of it is undefinable,

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Speaker 1: and it's athleticism. I mean, he's talking about that in

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Speaker 1: terms of getting away from the defensive ends and still

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Speaker 1: making it play. And I think that's where he sees

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Speaker 1: the comparisons. When people talk about Stoback, that's how they

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Speaker 1: talk about stomach. They weren't exactly sure how he always

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Speaker 1: got it done, but he but he did. Us to

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Speaker 1: start to correct you, but I've been saying, that's this

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Speaker 1: day one, baby, this day one. All he's saying, that's

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Speaker 1: not a correction. What do you mean I'm saying, you said, no,

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Speaker 1: we don't talk about it. I know you're talking about

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Speaker 1: the guys in front of the glass, but I've been

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Speaker 1: saying it's this day one. I think I've heard you

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Speaker 1: call Russell Wilson a point guard. Yeah, which is a

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Speaker 1: great Well, that's that's exactly what Belichick saying, next level

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Speaker 1: awareness did. He has peripheral vision and he sees windows

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Speaker 1: like Larry Bird saw windows of passing right, and and

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Speaker 1: well done, t D. I know this might shock you, TD,

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Speaker 1: but it means a little more coming from one of

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Speaker 1: the greatest football coaches of all time than it does

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Speaker 1: from a guy that you know is producing this podcast. Wait,

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Speaker 1: Larry Bird was a small forward. He was a power

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Speaker 1: forward and small forward I'm losing and confusing. I think

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Speaker 1: it's a great way to get that in Brady's head

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Speaker 1: and say, wait a minute, you're calling the opposing quarterback

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Speaker 1: Roger Stall back to weeks before and I coach Belichick,

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Speaker 1: try to cement our legacy. What am I blamed Gambert? Right?

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Speaker 1: All right? And that's what's happening, all right, guys. Uh So, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we talked a lot about coaches in the news, but listen,

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Speaker 1: that's a that's a big part of the season. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna get way into the super Bowl and those teams

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Speaker 1: and uh that end of it. Starting with Thursday show

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Speaker 1: and then the two shows leading up to the super

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Speaker 1: Bowl and then of course the recap shows. You're gonna

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Speaker 1: get plenty of super Bowl talk, but let's do a

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Speaker 1: little more coaching. In fact, these are the first annually

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Speaker 1: on the show. Now you know what you and your

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Speaker 1: Coaches Show TD. Wow, everything revolves around the Coach Show.

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Speaker 1: That's all about the Coach Show. Bas well, your solar

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Speaker 1: system is the Coaches Show is the sun, and you

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Speaker 1: just and then we're some like distant galaxy that got

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Speaker 1: isn't even counted as a planet anymore. What did they

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Speaker 1: talk about their fifteen minute podcast. We we've seen the light,

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Speaker 1: we've seen the future, and we know that the Coaches

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Speaker 1: Podcast there's no going to be around anymore. We want

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Speaker 1: we want to that hole really breaking news show is

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Speaker 1: still around and it's hosted by oh super Bowl winning coach.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you know, sometimes when I when we

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Speaker 1: get into the studio here, we see the shackles that

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Speaker 1: you put on them to keep them here to do

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Speaker 1: the show too. Just think how just think how upsetting

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Speaker 1: those up before we come in. Think how upset Billick

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Speaker 1: or Mary Uchi would be if they knew that this

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Speaker 1: podcast exists anything. It's like they don't know there's any

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Speaker 1: they know the show exists? Of course not. The good

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Speaker 1: news is I don't really know their show exist either,

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Speaker 1: so it's kind of it exists for six and a

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Speaker 1: half minutes every week they do, they do the whole

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Speaker 1: show looking at their watches. I'll have you know, I

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Speaker 1: ban Blake was great this week. He's put his feet

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Speaker 1: up on his table at home and it's broke down

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Speaker 1: the game pack and see haw from a coaching point

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Speaker 1: of view, like it was great stuff. Guys, that's great,

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Speaker 1: that's great. But this is not the Coaches Show. This

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Speaker 1: is the New Coach Awards, the New Hire Awards, New

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Speaker 1: Maybe next year we'll have one down. So I got

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Speaker 1: some categories here, gentlemen, and uh and and and some winners.

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Speaker 1: And I just realized just now that I guess I'll

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Speaker 1: have to pick a winner, but you could argue me,

636
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Speaker 1: and you know, that's fun. That's the debate that that

637
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Speaker 1: a podcast is born upon. A t L Debate Club

638
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: was the original name of this podcast, so it's still

639
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: in US. It's in the d n A. Here we

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Speaker 1: go first category gentlemen, the higher most doomed for failure.

641
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start negative right off the top. I love

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00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: doing that. And your nominees are Jim tom Sula, San

643
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: Francisco Forty Niners, Jack del Rio, Oakland Raiders, Gary Kubiak,

644
00:32:52,480 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos, Rex Ryan Buffalo Bills, and your winner, Jim

645
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: tom Sula. Wait, you just get to decide to win,

646
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: I said, I'll announce, wondering you guys could argue with me.

647
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to me, right Uh. The biggest train

648
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: wreck press conference slash appearance on a local show I've

649
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: ever seen in a Can we play that titty? Let's

650
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: play that you and me talking? Just give me a

651
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: name that you think would be good as an offensive coordinator?

652
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 1: What if I throw a name on Mark? Trust He

653
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: invented a new language at one point during that answer

654
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: for Handsome Hank, his buddy Time Sila. Handsome hanks belief

655
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 1: in Tom Sula is helped helping me give him a

656
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 1: little bit of a longer. Le said, Yeah, you want

657
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: to see how this goes. Maybe he's not so great

658
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: with the media, you know, big, I trust hanks judgment

659
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: on these things and I he says, he's a genuinely

660
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: great person and he's respected by his players, But sometimes

661
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 1: I don't know that. That first day on the job,

662
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: it seemed like, well, they plucked a defensive line coach

663
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: and made him the and put him in the big chair,

664
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: and maybe he's not supposed to be in the The

665
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: problem is, like his coach, all you hear is players

666
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: love him and that that's from top to bottom. They're

667
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,399
Speaker 1: excited about him being elevated. But the role of head

668
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 1: coach is not just teacher. It's you've got to be

669
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,479
Speaker 1: out front with the media. And if the Niners don't

670
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 1: start six and two like they do almost every unger,

671
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,479
Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh and they and they, let's say they start

672
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: three and six and they're starting to ask Tom Sula

673
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 1: tough questions and all we get is the stuff we've

674
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 1: got during what we've seen them so far in the media,

675
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: you're failing at half your job. You have to be

676
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: the figurehead and the basically the voice over what's happening,

677
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 1: and that's a huge part of the role. Being loved

678
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 1: is overrated. I mean, Rex Ryan's loved. His career record

679
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: is under Bucky Brooks told us in the Lunch from

680
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 1: the Day, basically, listen, if you are if if things

681
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: start one and three, if they start ugly, that all

682
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,399
Speaker 1: that love goes away real fashion. What everyone's careers here,

683
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: and then had a quote where he said he didn't

684
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: think Tom Sula and he meant it as a compliment,

685
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 1: but he said he didn't think Tom Sula would be

686
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,839
Speaker 1: as tough on them as Harbaugh, and that founded nice

687
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 1: to him. But as a fan, you're kind of thing

688
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: that is that good for all the Dave Campo vibe

689
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 1: that Tom Seli is giving off here as a guy

690
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: who's coming in after a great coach and is probably gonna,

691
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 1: I don't know. It seems like a guy who's going

692
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 1: to be an afterthought in a decade. I think as

693
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 1: easy answer here is the Jack del Rio is the

694
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 1: worst higher and look, I mean it was. It was

695
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: uninspired anyway, and then he hires Bill Musgrave, who was

696
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 1: one of the most unimaginative offensive coordinators you could find oversaw.

697
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: The development of Byron Leftwitch and Christian Ponder does not

698
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: to to first round early first round draft picks does

699
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: not bode well for developing David or Derek Carr. The

700
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: only caveat there is you're the Raiders and you just

701
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: need to win a few more games to buy yourself time.

702
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: Why didn't they that the category was what most likely

703
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: to fail higher most dooms for failure. The Raiders have

704
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,800
Speaker 1: failed for a decade, So I think del Rio he

705
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 1: was nominated. Kubiak needs to be a strong choice because

706
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: you're talking about a team like skyrocketing to the Super

707
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 1: Bowl three. You know, multiple playoff appearances under Peyton Manning.

708
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: You might not have Manning. This could be the Brian

709
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 1: Greasy Broncos that Mike Shanahan had to go out on.

710
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: How about Rex Ryan getting off the hook here? A

711
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 1: lot of people said he was the favorite to win

712
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 1: this award. I's got tough competition for he's got to

713
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: good talents, charisma will carry him long after they suck

714
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 1: and people realize it a couple of years. It's getting ready.

715
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: That's why exactly all right, next award, Next category, the

716
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 1: best Ghost from the Past. And this is someone that

717
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: was kind of forgotten and all of a sudden they

718
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: popped up and they're back on the grid and they

719
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: they got a job or might be getting a job.

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00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: Here we go the nominees are Mike Martz the Cleveland job.

721
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 1: He's been connected to Eric Manginie interviewing for a decordinator role.

722
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 1: Where's that in Oakland and Oakland? Oh, that's about right.

723
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 1: Mike Shanahan, who's floating around trying to get back in

724
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 1: the league, Mike Holmgren, your boy Mark and Mike Singletary

725
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: shot at this, and the winner is I asked, sorry,

726
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 1: I asked us a damn check. Two. When we do

727
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: the check, he's what's with the what's with the sound

728
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,439
Speaker 1: effect of ripping in paper? Oh, you're opening the envelope. Yeah,

729
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 1: but you don't ever hear it though doing a broadcast,

730
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,879
Speaker 1: you don't never hear a ripping or open paper. Well,

731
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 1: I could drop it. I like, I thought, I thought

732
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: it was fun. I like, he's actually an opening an

733
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 1: envelope here with stuff inside of it. Yeah, that's the

734
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:25,399
Speaker 1: other thing. Later in the illusion of the show, it's

735
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: an anticipation level. They're like, thank you, and the winner

736
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 1: is Mike Shanahan, whoa a little bit of an upset here.

737
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: Mike wants back in, and it was like everybody's like no,

738
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: I no, of course not. I feel like that that's agents.

739
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: The agents getting involved, but there was that interest in him.

740
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,280
Speaker 1: Though Mike Martz will never coach again. Shannahan. It always,

741
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: it always a little weird. It was like, yeah, we're

742
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: gonna interview Shanahan for the forty Niners job because we

743
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: happened to be in Denver that day, and you know,

744
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 1: you know, Shanahan is a good lunch spread at his

745
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 1: house every day. You know. It's like it was a

746
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 1: little it was unclear what he was interviewing for exactly

747
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: no serious they happened to be in Denver, like, oh

748
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: we're there, will swing by like they were in the serious,

749
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: and it was unclear if whether it was for like

750
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 1: a head coaching job or where they were just kind

751
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: of picking his brain about different people. You pointed that

752
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: out West a week ago. I think that's a lot

753
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 1: more of the latter. It's you talked to ten fifteen

754
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,879
Speaker 1: people and get any sort of information about your own

755
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: team's problems before you find the park. I got the

756
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: sense that some things were looking at him in a

757
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 1: general manager type of rule or footballs are, which makes no,

758
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 1: absolutely no sense, because he's one of the worst general managers.

759
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: I mean every time he's been a coach, last year

760
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 1: and he's failed. The Shanahan the GM always killed Shanahan

761
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 1: the coach, and I think he did in Washington. Ultimately,

762
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 1: I think he was the one picking the players. Same.

763
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: Mark your thoughts on the report connecting Marts to the Browns.

764
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,879
Speaker 1: Uh won't happen. Is there any way that happens? I hope.

765
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 1: I will bet you a sandwich right now. It absolutely

766
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,800
Speaker 1: doesn't happen. To have any information on this or something,

767
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 1: you seem confident, I'm deadly calm. I feel that I'm

768
00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 1: guaranteeing you it will not happen. What do you have

769
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: any kind of info or theories on why they actually

770
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: brought him in? No, I don't, But that's because they

771
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: did very odd things last year when they were looking

772
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: to fill their head coaching role, even while they were

773
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: heat seeking towards Patton at the end. During the Senior

774
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 1: Bowl week, reports floated up with them talking to other people.

775
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: I do. I can promise you won't be Marts. It's

776
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: it's funny. I was saying this to Greg a week

777
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: ago or so, that the Browns are kind of like

778
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 1: the screw up brother in law that you're really rooting

779
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: for to get it together and and he keeps messing

780
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 1: up and you root for him. And then Mark, I

781
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: look at you, You're like, I'm talking it's your brother,

782
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: and you're my wife, but you're really you're kind of

783
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: like my work wife. And you're like, you're like, man,

784
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 1: is he's such a screw up? Why are the Browns

785
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 1: such screw ups? They can't I mean, why are they

786
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: getting a new offense? And well and again and again

787
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 1: they did screw up. And I think that they're a

788
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 1: team that's not figured out how to operate on a

789
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: week to week basis. When you hear about you know,

790
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 1: employees texting stuff that was annoying Shanahan. One little thing

791
00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: about Shanahan. I mean, this is a guy that you hear. Also,

792
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,439
Speaker 1: he's not the easiest person on the planet to wards,

793
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 1: so you know, it's a little maybe it was just

794
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 1: a bad soup. And I think that Shanahan wants or

795
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: Pennon wants someone he can trust, but it won't be marked.

796
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 1: But they're getting filled up here. These offensive coordinator jobs

797
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 1: like who are you hoping for? Almost always starts at

798
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: the top, Mark, don't you think? Yeah? I do? I

799
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 1: mean I do absolutely. By the way, another another lesson

800
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 1: to be learned in life that you could learn through

801
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 1: following football. Pulling your pants down in the middle of

802
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: your workplace gonna hurt you in the future, Mike secretary.

803
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: It's hard to recover in any line of trade. What

804
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,720
Speaker 1: about the guy who rushed onto the field in Seattle.

805
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 1: That guy deserves a raise wherever he works, but he

806
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 1: probably got fired too. It's kind to the point. All right,

807
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 1: next category, This one's kind of connected to the previous category.

808
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: This is the comeback coach slash executive of the Year award.

809
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: Guy that was kind of out of the mix and

810
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,479
Speaker 1: now he landed a job and he's back on his feet,

811
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 1: and who knows what comes next. You're nominees. Steve Spagnola,

812
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator, wants a again for the Giants. He

813
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: has risen and Giants fans are thrilled about it. They

814
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: think it's still two thousand seven, two thousand and eleven.

815
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 1: They got the same personnel. Good job. Steve Jeff Ireland,

816
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:14,760
Speaker 1: a new consultant for the Nolan Saints. We believe there's

817
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 1: some conflict here. Okay, reportedly he's not going to be

818
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,320
Speaker 1: the right answer to this question anyway. Uh Chan Gailly,

819
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: who we thought might be connected with the Jets. Maybe

820
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: he's not, but could be. This award is not very

821
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: strong and maybe shouldn't have been in the award show here.

822
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: What about Gary Kobs, No, he was o C last year.

823
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 1: He's he was on the radar. Now he's someone that

824
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:45,280
Speaker 1: was totally after all. It's connected categories spacks for the Giants.

825
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 1: His career fell off the rails. He's a hot property.

826
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 1: Goes to the he got a job with the Rams,

827
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 1: I believe, and the Rams was where he was the

828
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,720
Speaker 1: head coach, head coach, bombs out there, goes to the Saints,

829
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: bombs out there. Now he's back with the Giants, and

830
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 1: you know, I have come to go. I have to

831
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 1: agree with you because the other two people don't officially

832
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: like I said. So yeah, I'm sure you could have

833
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: turned around that defense with Spencer pacing or is his

834
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: best player all right now, Spagnola is one of those guys.

835
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: He leads the league and media likes him, but all

836
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: his former co workers don't, which that's always a troublesome

837
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: type of coach. I'm giving this award to Kubiak. I'm

838
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 1: just writing candidate, Okay, Like he's going from coordinated head coach.

839
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: He's coming back. All right, here we go, this is now,

840
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 1: let's get to the serious business. Best looking higher. I

841
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: consulted with Mark, who is also comfortable in his heterosexuality.

842
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 1: So we're gonna lay it out here and don't worry

843
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 1: because he's saying about me and Greg not as comfortable.

844
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: I just can't tell. Actually, Greg's pretty comfortable too. I

845
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 1: could not tell you between the three. It's not throwing

846
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 1: him under the bus. Some people like TV is not

847
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,399
Speaker 1: that comfortable with to you that, I don't think. It's

848
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 1: not an uncomfortability. I honestly can I cannot tell you

849
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 1: which one of you three is the best looking. Well,

850
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: it's me. Well, it's also subjected. Still hanging on that

851
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,240
Speaker 1: one random guy that thought but wasn't wearing his glasses

852
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: and thought he was Tom Brady on the TV. Oh yeah,

853
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: Aaron Aaron in photo department. That was one of the

854
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 1: highlights of my mom. Anyway, here we go. Here is

855
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 1: the category, and don't worry. I know you had it

856
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: right in for Coop'scoop has been a big time He's

857
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 1: like the Bradley Cooper of these awards. Nominated multiple spots

858
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: best looking higher Gary Kubiak, Denver Broncos. Guy's aging in reverse.

859
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: He's like a Madame Tuso wax figure. He seems like

860
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: you're giving short trip to Jack del Rio. Well we

861
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: haven't gone I thought I thought you were naming him.

862
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 1: We know we still have to go there and that

863
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 1: means but this does feel a little bit like you

864
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: were talking downstairs. How Kubiak and you you guys have

865
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 1: similar hair, so it's almost like you're projecting. No, we're

866
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: talking about NFL networks. Sorry Kubiak has like an eighties

867
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 1: haircut and a possible die job going on. It's a

868
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: totally a situation. Uh, here we go. Be'st looking at

869
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 1: Let's get back on track with Sorry Gary Kubiak, John

870
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: the Silver Fox, Chicago Bears, Jack the Rio, Oakland Raiders,

871
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 1: Todd Bowles, New York Jets. That Mark pushed hard for

872
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 1: that one, and Dan Quinn and we're assuming he's a

873
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 1: new hire with the Falcons. So a loaded category here.

874
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 1: The winner in an upset Gary Kubiak is the best

875
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: looking coach. When when you're like sixty years old and

876
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 1: you look like you're forty, it's pretty good. He doesn't

877
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 1: have wrinkles. I think one guy we might be overlooking

878
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: his Rex Ryan for the reclamation project that has happened

879
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 1: over number one. The nicest teeth is the worst teeth

880
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 1: in the NFL. This is the guy you perfectly white.

881
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. The whole committee has to be taken

882
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 1: to Mars. Dan Queen did not make my top four,

883
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 1: wrote him in later. I see us nice eyes. Dan

884
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: Quinn has nice I interviewed him last year. Is looking

885
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 1: at a one inch by one inch. I said he

886
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: has nice eyes, and I stand by that. I check

887
00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 1: it out during Super Bowl. Made a mistake here, I'd

888
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 1: probably go Cubs myself. Rio is furious right now. Tell

889
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 1: Rio is good looking, He's mean, he's changed the last women,

890
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: you guys are This isn't a This is an award

891
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 1: for the young. I mean, this is like, what are

892
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 1: you going to draft a forty three year old quarterback? Now?

893
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: This is an award for the young. That's what That's

894
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: who who the women? I'm saying either Todd Bowls maybe

895
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 1: del Rio as an underdog, but yeah, Bowls is an

896
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:32,879
Speaker 1: in shape guy, an x NFL player. You know, That's

897
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 1: why I pushed hard for him. To get in the

898
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 1: race here. But Dan is the authority here. I'm like

899
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 1: I said, I'm just thrown out a winner and then

900
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: I'm open to debate. Alright, it's time. We're gonna slow

901
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 1: down for a second, and we're gonna give out an award.

902
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: This is not a This will not have nominees. This

903
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 1: is just the academy gets together and they announced it. Uh,

904
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 1: he's got a nice smile, yeah, Gregg pointing to Todd Bowles,

905
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 1: pretty hot. Give him a seven and a half. All right,

906
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 1: the Lifetime Achievement Award and fail and uh, you know

907
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 1: this goes to a man who, uh, this is a

908
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 1: little This is a man that thought he had the

909
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: world in the palm of his hand and it didn't

910
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 1: quite work out that way. On New Year's Eve, you

911
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: thought he'd be ringing in the New Year with all

912
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 1: the leverage in the world and a four million dollar check. Instead,

913
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 1: he's now the offensive line coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars.

914
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 1: He has Doug Marron, your two thousand fifteen winner of

915
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: the Lifetime Achievement Award in fail who gave him that advice?

916
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: And how quickly was that man fired? Or a woman? Yeah?

917
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 1: I take back those uh hot takes on this podcast

918
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: that I had of what a smart move by his

919
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,280
Speaker 1: agent that he not only got the four million dollars,

920
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: but he's going to deliver him to another team. Because

921
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: the fact is, if Moron knew this was ever gonna happen,

922
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 1: he would have never left Buffalo. And and he's furious

923
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,720
Speaker 1: right now at how this all happen. Shocking that NFL

924
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: owners would not look kindly on a guy who opted

925
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 1: out of his contract and basically quit his team. Yeah,

926
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 1: and also everywhere he has been there are leaks that

927
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: he's impossible to work with, that he's a headcase, that

928
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 1: he is the fourth team, and we've talked about on

929
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 1: the show today. But the interesting thing is immediately after

930
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,280
Speaker 1: the opt out, there was the buzzo he quit his team.

931
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 1: But you saw a lot of reporting from a lot

932
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,760
Speaker 1: of NFL insiders and a lot of tweets that sweet.

933
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 1: This was a guy that was highly, deeply respected in

934
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 1: league circles for the work he did in Buffalo the

935
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: last two years. So was that hook line and sink

936
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 1: something whole something NFL reporting industry, And by the way,

937
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,720
Speaker 1: I still think and Charlie Casserley was I was listening.

938
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 1: He did an interview. Of course, he's been the consultant

939
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 1: for the Jets during their coach gm search. Uh, he

940
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 1: was on Mike francessa New York. I was listening, and

941
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 1: and it does. It still still sounds to me because

942
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,280
Speaker 1: he was he pushed hard from Moron to the Jets

943
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 1: that that was probably what was set up. And then

944
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: Maron didn't handle the interview. Well, something went wrong in

945
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 1: that interview. Well, they said he didn't, and then he

946
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 1: was hung out to dry after that. Yeah, I mean

947
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:00,040
Speaker 1: you have to wonder if when the initial ration of

948
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 1: reports that he's wanted and there's all this attraction towards Maron,

949
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 1: that it is a little bit of the insiders getting

950
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 1: fed something wrong. Sure, that's what Maron thought, because you're

951
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 1: not gonna walk away from a head coaching job. I mean,

952
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: at one point after the Jets interview, he went to

953
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 1: go interview with Atlanta, and it was positioned in the

954
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 1: media like, oh, he's gonna keep his options open. You know,

955
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: he might play Atlanta off of the Jets in some

956
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: bidding war or something like that. In the end, you know,

957
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 1: neither one of those teams get a lifetime achieving award

958
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 1: that has to be a special type of goof and

959
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 1: Gaze could have been a contender. I don't know if

960
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: he really managed it poorly, but everyone thought he was

961
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 1: gonna either be the next Broncos coach or the next

962
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 1: coach to two great jobs. He didn't know that the

963
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: job he had wouldn't be there for him three weeks ago.

964
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 1: Ature No, uh, maybe he's maybe he'll be the head

965
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:58,800
Speaker 1: coach of the Jags next year and everything will be forgotten.

966
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 1: Who knows, But who Mara owned? Yeah, I don't think so.

967
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 1: I mean, he's like Mike Malarkey. Mike Marlarky left the

968
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:08,439
Speaker 1: Bill's job with more dignity. He just said, I don't

969
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: like this ownership, I don't like what's going on the

970
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 1: front office. I'm just gonna leave. And he didn't have

971
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 1: any money waiting for him. He actually gave up a

972
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 1: lot of money to do that. And you know, he

973
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 1: didn't get another head coaching job for another eight years.

974
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 1: That turned out to be in Jacksonville. That only lasted

975
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 1: one year. And that's how it goes. What a year

976
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 1: it was though, fourteen? All right, here we go. The

977
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 1: next category always the bridemaid bridesmaid, never the bride in

978
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:36,240
Speaker 1: your nominees, Adam, this is for the guy that always

979
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 1: gets connected. Sorry, excuse me for a head coach or

980
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,800
Speaker 1: you gotta make it clear to the audience connected to

981
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 1: coaching job. So not literally going to weddings and dressing

982
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: as bridesmaids. You need to uh connected to coaching jobs.

983
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:57,280
Speaker 1: Never quite happens, Adam Gaze, Doug Moron, Hugh Jackson, Pep Hamilton's,

984
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 1: Terrell Austin and Josh McDaniels. Is this a just for

985
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 1: this year only? Or are we taking passed into account?

986
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 1: You got a kind of factor in the past for

987
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 1: this time, but stay mostly rooted in the last month

988
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 1: or so. When it is Josh McDaniels, West doesn't like it.

989
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:19,240
Speaker 1: Sounds like we have a bit of a battle brewing

990
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 1: here ahead. I can't believe anybody took Josh McDaniels seriously

991
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,320
Speaker 1: as a bridesmaid the academy did. I think Hugh Jackson's

992
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 1: the answer here. I would back Jackson too, because he

993
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: was a hot name coming out of this and he

994
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 1: never really went far with any search. It was like,

995
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 1: you know, Pet Hamilton's a little bit too early in

996
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 1: the process. Same with Torrell, Darrel Austin and McDaniels. One

997
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:42,760
Speaker 1: thing about McDaniels is he absolutely burnt his own bridge

998
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,720
Speaker 1: in Denver when he when he left, Pat Bowland basically

999
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:47,919
Speaker 1: said I will never hire a young coach like him

1000
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 1: ever again, and essentially Spike two, I will never touch

1001
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 1: a young candidate that mature who can he can destroy

1002
00:50:55,239 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 1: a room that way, right, But he has burn his

1003
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 1: bridge elsewhere, and I think it's telling that Thomas he's

1004
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 1: back in the comfortable cradle of New England where every

1005
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 1: coordinator looks good then goes out and fails. I think

1006
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 1: Gays is the winner here because it's a red flag

1007
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 1: to me that not only does he not get the

1008
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 1: job in Denver where Peyton Manny apparently wants him and

1009
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 1: he's been in town. But I don't know if John Fox,

1010
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 1: you know, in theory, could bring him to Chicago. That

1011
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 1: might be maybe, and maybe he will. But if he

1012
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 1: doesn't bring him to Chicago, Okay, there's another guy that

1013
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 1: just had you and went to the super Bowl with you,

1014
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 1: had a ton of success with you, and yet he

1015
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:38,479
Speaker 1: doesn't want to bring you with him. So we'll see.

1016
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 1: Maybe Gays will end up in Chicago. I don't know

1017
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 1: new information here. Hugh Jackson was left at the altar.

1018
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 1: His agent came on a radio show in Cincinnati, I

1019
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 1: Believe with Lance McAllister and said Hugh Jackson was stunned

1020
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 1: he did not get the bill's job. Going into the

1021
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:54,839
Speaker 1: night before they hired Rex Ryan, Hugh thought he had him.

1022
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: That just strikes me as Hugh Jackson's probably like the

1023
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 1: most confident guy in the world. Every time he throws

1024
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,399
Speaker 1: a bowling pennies like stunned that all ten pins don't

1025
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 1: go down. What happened here? Alright? Fair enough? Fair enough? Alright?

1026
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 1: Next category the best the Coach or the best chance

1027
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 1: um for a deep well of unintentional comedy. Your nominees

1028
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:24,760
Speaker 1: are Jim tom Sula, winner Jim tom Sula, Jim tom Sula,

1029
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:30,800
Speaker 1: and Jim tom Sula. And your winner is Jim tom Sula.

1030
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 1: I like that you're not even ripping the envelop anymore,

1031
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 1: You're just crumbling it up in your show. I feel

1032
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 1: bad for him almost. I just it's not gonna it's

1033
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 1: gonna be brutal. He's gonna be so mad when he

1034
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 1: listens to the show. Because this is why. That's Henry's boy.

1035
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 1: That's Henry's boy. We would be lampooning Jim tom Sula

1036
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 1: even more if we didn't respect Henry so much. Yeah,

1037
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,359
Speaker 1: that's true. Maybe he'll turn out to be a great coach.

1038
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 1: But by the way, you can you could be a

1039
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 1: king of unintentional comedy still be successful. Also a right,

1040
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:06,919
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to that, Homer Simpson. I'm just saying

1041
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 1: he could be a guy. He could be like a

1042
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 1: lovable like kind of Rex Ryan I. They could win

1043
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 1: and they'd be like, what this guy's quotes they don't

1044
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 1: make sense. Is gifted with the power of communication. Alright,

1045
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 1: Rex is intentional, Right, somehow avoided all these awards. You're

1046
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: saying that this is a good communication. What if I

1047
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 1: throw a name of Mars. It's like an alien life form.

1048
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 1: He is like the son of Yogi Bearra or Yoda Nice.

1049
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 1: I like when you work baseball. Listen, I know like

1050
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: four people in baseball. That's one of the four. Um,

1051
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna let's uh now, everyone remove your

1052
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Speaker 1: hats before we get to the final category. It's that

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Speaker 1: time of the show where we look back, Um, the

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Speaker 1: people that we lost in the past. Perry Fuel, Jim Schwartz,

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Speaker 1: Mike Smith, John Zick, Jet Fish, Jim has It, Jim Harball.

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Speaker 1: There's always like who's going to be the last person

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Speaker 1: that gets called? When they do that, it's always a

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Speaker 1: hard decision. You want to give it to the person

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Speaker 1: that deserves the most pop applause at the end, Hardball

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Speaker 1: got it off the Michigan. He's like the Jack Lemon

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Speaker 1: of this group. You guys haven't died. They're collecting paychecks.

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Speaker 1: Shorts is making millions of dollars the next couple of

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Speaker 1: years from the bills, and who knows, maybe he'll pop

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Speaker 1: up in the next week get a job. I'm just

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Speaker 1: saying they're off the grid right now. We lost them,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure listening to this show and like a private

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Speaker 1: plane heading to Nepal for like a three week camping vacation.

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Speaker 1: Mike Smith was Wins a year a couple of years ago,

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Speaker 1: and now he can't find a job. This really is

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Speaker 1: like an award show that in that it's gotten like

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Speaker 1: horribly long. Yeah, well that's true, alright, final award, final category.

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Speaker 1: And this is this is this is it, this is

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Speaker 1: what it's uh, this it all comes down to and

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Speaker 1: this is This is why you lift all them weights.

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Speaker 1: The best higher of UH Coaching search. Here we go,

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Speaker 1: n TV. I think each of these nominees deserve their

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Speaker 1: own applause, because just getting nominated in this category is

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Speaker 1: very good. Todd Bowles, New York Jets, Mark Tressman, Baltimore Ravens,

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Speaker 1: John Fox, Chicago Bears, Chicago Bears, Kyle Shanahan, Atlanta Falcons

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Speaker 1: in the winner, the best higher of two thousand fifteen West.

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Speaker 1: You open it up, you take a look. Who's the winner?

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Speaker 1: Oh the Faggio, Wow, Fasia. You go back to Chicago,

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Speaker 1: go the monsters of the Midway bid West, You're in

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Speaker 1: the element. You bring it back to the defense. Who's

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Speaker 1: been a more successful assistant coach? Thang Wet Kyle Shanahan,

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Speaker 1: Gregg could coordinate Atlanta's offense. Kyle Shanahan is walking into

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Speaker 1: a situation where he's gonna success, immediate success off the charts.

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Speaker 1: Bears are disastered. But it was Rex Ryan nominated, didn't

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Speaker 1: get nominated. Reward is like most likely for success, like

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Speaker 1: best Higher. Well, it's I agree that, Shah. They set

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Speaker 1: up well for success. You know you surprise you didn't

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Speaker 1: give it to your boy, Todd Bowles, the new Jets coach. Listen,

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Speaker 1: the envelope said what it said, I'm not I don't vote,

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Speaker 1: I'm not part of the academy. And John Fox and

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Speaker 1: Vic Fonzio both with Chicago. So, by the way, Bears,

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Speaker 1: things came together for the Bears. There they went from

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Speaker 1: not knowing who they're gonna hire le Broncos all of

1098
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Speaker 1: a sudden have a conscious uncoupling with John Fox. They

1099
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Speaker 1: grabbed Foxy. Immediately, everybody's talking high about their new young

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Speaker 1: GM They got Faucio, maybe Fox and Jake Cutler. J

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Speaker 1: that's the other side of it, all right. So those

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Speaker 1: were the new Coaching Higher Awards for two thousand fifteen.

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Speaker 1: We will be back on Thursday with another show, uh,

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Speaker 1: dedicated to the Super Bowl coverage as we get closer

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Speaker 1: and closer to the big game. Uh. This is Dan

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Speaker 1: hands As signing off for Quiet Storm, the Mailman, the

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Speaker 1: Boss and to day behind the glass and I see

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Speaker 1: ze drizzle back there. Until Thursday. We will remember all

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Speaker 1: those men. Will you don't met you Fas