1 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:09,239 Speaker 1: It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load. 2 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 2: So Michael Verie Show is on the air. 3 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 3: I'm going to prepare to offend a number of folks 4 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 3: with what I'm about to say, and I want to 5 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 3: make sure you understand before you email me. I'm okay 6 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:39,599 Speaker 3: that you're offended. Okay, I'm okay if I tell you 7 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 3: I think Earl Campbell's the greatest running back in the 8 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 3: history of the NFL. Because I love my love you Blue, 9 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 3: and you say that's offensive. I love Walter Payton or 10 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 3: OJ Simpson or Jim Brown or whoever that might very Sanders, 11 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 3: whoever that might be. I didn't say that expecting you 12 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 3: to like what I. 13 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 2: Had to say. 14 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 3: You tuned in, and you should hope. I'm honest. If 15 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 3: you never disagree with the opinion of a host and 16 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 3: you listen to them every day, I got. 17 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 2: News for you. 18 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 3: If two people always agree, one of them is not necessary. 19 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 3: And I got more news for you. If you never 20 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 3: disagree with a single person, I mean, with a host 21 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 3: on a single issue, and you think that is an 22 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 3: endorsement of how great they are, it's not. That is 23 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 3: a sign that they are reading the wind. They are 24 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 3: reading the tea leaves. They are telling you what you 25 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 3: want to hear. So I will tell you this. I 26 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 3: believe that there is an attack coordinated not necessarily across 27 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 3: the religions, but by other religions against Christians in this country. 28 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 3: I believe that, and I believe it comes from people 29 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 3: feeling left out if we talk about Christ or the 30 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 3: Bible and our faith because they're not part of it. Well, 31 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 3: guess what if I find out at the spetzel Fest 32 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 3: in Texas that they've been doing polka dancing last weekend 33 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 3: and maybe I wasn't invited, I don't get my feelings hurt. 34 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 2: That's what they do. 35 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 3: If in a public gathering people want to celebrate their family, 36 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,959 Speaker 3: their tradition, their alma mater, even though I'm not part 37 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 3: of any of those, That's okay. 38 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 2: I'm a big boy. 39 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 3: And in a pluralistic society, which is what everybody claims 40 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 3: they want. 41 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 2: So you don't have these problems in China. 42 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 3: You don't have these problems in Japan where you have 43 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 3: complete homogeneity, You've got complete dominance by a single race culture. 44 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 3: And what little bit you look at the Wigers in China, 45 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 3: the Muslims, and how the China, how the problems they've 46 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 3: had there. 47 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 2: But I want to get back to the point here. 48 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 3: When I'm appreciative that the President has taken up this issue, 49 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 3: and I am tired of people who I think agree 50 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 3: with him but are too chicken to say it publicly. 51 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 3: If you feel the need to say, hey, if you're 52 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 3: Jewish and offended, Hey if you're Muslim and offended. Hey 53 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 3: if you're Atheist and offended. Hey if you're Hindu and offended. 54 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 3: I hope you're not offended, But why are you worried 55 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 3: whether they're offended? Do you believe what you believe only 56 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 3: as long as no one else is offended. So if 57 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 3: you're spending more time worried about offending people who believe 58 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 3: in the supremacy of their God. 59 00:03:58,640 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 2: Then you do. 60 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 3: Practicing and expressing your own faith, then maybe they are 61 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 3: bigger believers than you are. It is not your job 62 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 3: to coddle those who do not share your beliefs. We 63 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 3: don't murder others for not sharing our beliefs. Do you 64 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 3: think there are any other religions in the world who do. 65 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 3: We don't rape the women of those who do not 66 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 3: share our beliefs. When we conquer their lands or defeat 67 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 3: them on the battlefield. We worship our God in our way. Now, 68 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 3: there are a number of Christians. See when Christians are 69 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 3: in the majority, they're very guilt ridden. They're not comfortable 70 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 3: with this, kind of like the Republicans. They don't like 71 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 3: to be in power. They'd rather be out of power. 72 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 3: We are better when persecuted. But when you hear people 73 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 3: say President Trump shouldn't talk about the Christians faith, that's 74 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 3: a violation of church and state. If you ever learn 75 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 3: anything from me ever, in the time that you listen 76 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 3: for one year or one hundred, let it be this. 77 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 3: Everything you know about the separation of church and state 78 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 3: is wrong. Of the ten commandments the first and they're 79 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 3: laid out in Exodus twenty and Deuteronomy. I think it's 80 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 3: four five Deuteronomy five. The first commandment, thou shalt have 81 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 3: no other gods before me. Well, you're a white supremacist. No, 82 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 3: I am not a white supremacist in the sense that 83 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 3: I'm trying to subjugate other people. But am I proud 84 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 3: of my people? Am I proud of people who look 85 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:58,919 Speaker 3: like me? Am I proud of my heritage? Am I 86 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 3: proud of the culture? 87 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 2: Yes? 88 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 3: I am, and your attempt to make me ashamed of 89 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 3: it that works on other people, not on me. But 90 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 3: here is let me get to this quickly. The idea 91 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 3: of the separation of church and state did not mean 92 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,559 Speaker 3: that the church will not be involved in the state. 93 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 3: It meant that the state will not be involved in 94 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 3: the church. And what happened is that the King of 95 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 3: England was having problems in his marriage, couldn't get what 96 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 3: he wanted from the pope. So he declared, I'm the 97 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 3: King of the Church of England, my own church. 98 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 2: Pope begone. 99 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 3: I'll issue the rulings, I'll issue the indulgences in charge 100 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 3: for him. 101 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 2: So here is. 102 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 3: Jefferson wrote a letter to the Danbury Baptist and they 103 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 3: were worried about this. And he says, believing with you 104 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 3: that religion is a matter which lies solely between man 105 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 3: and his God, that he owes account to none other 106 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 3: for his faith or his worship. That the legitimate powers 107 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 3: of government reach actions only and not opinions. I contemplate 108 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 3: with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people 109 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 3: which declared that their legislature should make no law respecting 110 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 3: an establishment of religion. Or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, 111 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 3: thus building a wall of separation between church and state. 112 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 3: What he is saying is that Congress that in our 113 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 3: founding documents. In that founding document, we said, Congress shall 114 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 3: make no law respecting an establishment of religion. Congress shall 115 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 3: not determine who is and isn't a Christian, or a Jew, 116 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 3: or a Hindu or Muslim. Congress shall make no laws 117 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 3: relating to that, nor shall Congress prohibit the free expression thereof. 118 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 3: You are free to worship how wherever you worship, and 119 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 3: government shall not get in the way. But just as 120 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 3: every other organization APAC, the NRA, the Farmers Association, the 121 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 3: Church is more than able to be a part of 122 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 3: our government, and our founding documents have Christian biblical statements 123 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 3: all over. 124 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 2: Be not a shamed Christians any law. The Michael Dairies 125 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 2: show continues. 126 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 3: The owner of a New Jersey spa is arrested for 127 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 3: running a brothel out of the business. Yeah, I just 128 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 3: you want to understand the spa is not technically supposed 129 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 3: to be a brothel. It's just supposed to be a spa. 130 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 3: Because you might have caught yourself thinking when I thought 131 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 3: they were the same thing. But that's not why the 132 00:08:55,679 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 3: story is going viral. A bust of a spa that's 133 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 3: really a brothel, it's not national news. The reason the 134 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 3: story has gone viral is that the owner's name is 135 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 3: s n first name, b A N G last name. 136 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 3: The fella's name is Souon Bang. Go see Soon Bang? 137 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 3: How long will it take? 138 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 2: Soon Bang? Take care of you fast. 139 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 3: In addition to that, the woman arrested for prostitution at 140 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 3: the spa is sixty seven years old. Soon Bang sixty 141 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:46,079 Speaker 3: three is the owner of the Oasis Spa spa in Denville, 142 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:50,479 Speaker 3: New Jersey, and he's been arrested accused of promoting prostitution 143 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 3: of his business. You Shoon Lee, sixty seven, is accused 144 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 3: of engaging in sexual activity for money at the establishment. 145 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 3: According to North Jersey dot Com, the Denville Police Department 146 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 3: executed a search warrant at the Oasis Spa and at 147 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 3: Bang's Fairview residence. A large quantity of US currency was 148 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 3: found in Popo say it is indicative of prostitution. Bang 149 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:19,439 Speaker 3: was charged on a summons complaint with third degree promoting prostitution, 150 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 3: second degree money laundering, and the disorderly person's offense of 151 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 3: engaging with prostitution. Yushoon Lee was also charged by summons 152 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 3: complaint with the disorderly person's offense of engaging with prostitution. 153 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:36,559 Speaker 3: We here at the Michael Barry Show have exclusive undercover 154 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 3: audio of sixty seven year old Yushun Lee negotiating with 155 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 3: the client. 156 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 4: Hey, you got your friend field. 157 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 2: Not just this minute? 158 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, wow baby, me so honey, Me so honey, keep 159 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 4: lying me love you all the time. 160 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 5: You comme. 161 00:10:58,760 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, we like. 162 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 7: Party when you are much. 163 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 4: Fifteen dolls fifteen dollars you. 164 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 2: Long time and wells me so horny? 165 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 8: You ate between doll to Bookoo five dollars Ee me 166 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 8: lucky very much. 167 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 2: My god, so my mom. 168 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,839 Speaker 6: Allows me to spad okay, ten dollars each. 169 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 2: What do we get for ten dollars? 170 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 3: Every thing? 171 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 5: You walk? 172 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 3: Everything at me too. It's funny what leads to prostitution 173 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 3: in different parts of the country. In New Jersey, it 174 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 3: could be a pedicure. In Ohio, it's ice fishing. 175 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:44,719 Speaker 7: The mayor of the City of Hudson is in the 176 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 7: spotlight for saying ice fishing could lead to prostitution. That 177 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 7: comment was made during a discussion and allowing residents to 178 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 7: ice fish on Hudson and Springs Lake. 179 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 2: Our lydia Espara has reaction. 180 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 8: If you live in northeast Ohio, ice fishing is this 181 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 8: park is snowboarding. Hudson resident Michael Whittaker has been fishing 182 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 8: in this hole his entire life and didn't notice the 183 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 8: sign that recently went up. 184 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 3: I've been forever like there's like this is a this 185 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 3: is my spot, you know. 186 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:15,959 Speaker 2: He told our Carl Bachtel. 187 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 8: He wrote city council to ask white was banned, and 188 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:23,559 Speaker 8: he was surprised at Hudson's Mayor Craig Schubert's comments about 189 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 8: the topic that even had the fish flipping. 190 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:31,079 Speaker 3: And if you then allow ice fishing with shanties, then 191 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 3: that leads to another problem, prostitution. 192 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:38,239 Speaker 8: A comment so shocking that even Council President Chris Foster's 193 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 8: face tells the story that this could be a fishtail. 194 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 2: Now you got the police chief, the police Department of 195 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 2: Vault and I see you laughing already. 196 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 4: Well, I yes, and I shouldn't laugh when people bring 197 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 4: concerns up. 198 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:56,559 Speaker 8: Kate Chedelman is word one council person and she says, 199 00:12:56,600 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 8: this is not the first time the mayor has made controversial. 200 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 2: States, what has he said before? 201 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 4: We actually last fall he went to a school board 202 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 4: meeting and demanded the resignation of five school board members 203 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 4: because the prompts being used in a creative writing class 204 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 4: were considered pornography. 205 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 8: Settleman says the comments led to death threats to several 206 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 8: board members, and this one has now gone viral. Whitaker 207 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:24,839 Speaker 8: isn't taking the bait. He knows ice fishing can be dangerous. 208 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 8: You fish at your own risk, but the sport is 209 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:29,199 Speaker 8: worth fighting. 210 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 2: For it because it's addicting. 211 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 3: There's no reason that it should be this fun to 212 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 3: catch four inch bluegill through an eight inch hole. 213 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 8: And the mayor should reel in his comments that ice 214 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,199 Speaker 8: fishing and shanties lead to prostitution. 215 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 2: Well, go out there to get away from women. Some 216 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 2: of us I don't know. 217 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 8: Man Lydia Spara three News. 218 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 3: If only Soon Bang had filmed you, Shoon Lee sixty 219 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 3: seven years old and her clients, if only he had 220 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 3: filmed them and sold the film, it wouldn't have been prostituted. 221 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 2: Oh, Chris, you can't always believe what you hear. 222 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 3: For example, everybody thinks that prostitution is illegal, but there 223 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 3: are always around it. 224 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 2: All right, let's do it tooth. 225 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: If you were under arrest for prostitution, it's not prostitution. 226 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: You paid her to have sex. No, I paid her 227 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: to have sex and we're filming it, so technically it's 228 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: not prostitution. It's a porno. Oh well, as long as 229 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: you're filming and selling it, it's legal. Enjoy your day. Remember, kids, 230 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: she's not if she's an actress. The fellow's name is 231 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: Souon bang Man. How perfect was that? Maybe his parents 232 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: had forethought or. 233 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 3: Maybe soon Bang means something there that it just doesn't 234 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 3: mean here, but it translates beautifully. 235 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 2: Asian names. You gotta love them. Remember those Asian pilots 236 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 2: who crashed the plane. 237 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 6: You have new information now. Also on the plane crash, 238 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 6: k TV has just learned the names of the the 239 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 6: four pilots who are on board the flight. They are 240 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 6: Captain some Ting Wong we Too, Low, Ho Lee Fuk 241 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 6: and Bang. 242 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 2: Dang al In. 243 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 6: The NTSB has confirmed these are the names of the 244 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 6: pilots on board flight two fourteen when it crashed. We 245 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 6: are working to determine exactly what roles each of them 246 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 6: played during the landing on Saturday. 247 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 3: It was confirmed. It was confirmed. They had confirmed the names. 248 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 3: That's true, they had confirmed the names. It was all 249 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 3: a prank from an intern and he pulled it off. 250 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 3: That guy would be a lot of fun. 251 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 5: You know. 252 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 3: Every time I hear those names, I laugh at a 253 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 3: different one, and then and then it hits. You wait 254 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 3: a second, the four names are as they're going down, 255 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 3: and then they hit, and then you realize the absolute 256 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 3: genius of the telling of the story through the names. 257 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 2: Do it again, remo, you have new information now. 258 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 6: Also on the plane crash KTV is just learn the 259 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 6: names of the four pilots who are on board the flight. 260 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 6: They are Captain, some Ting, Wong, we too Low, and 261 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 6: bang ding Out. The NTSB has confirmed these show. 262 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 3: I don't do TikTok, so I don't know if this 263 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 3: is true or not, but I'm going to read it 264 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 3: because I thought it was well written. And for those 265 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 3: of you who are on there, you can tell me 266 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 3: if it's true or not. 267 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 2: Chris writes Tzar. 268 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 3: Somewhere between the gas station Beggar and the board suburban 269 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 3: wife too timid for only fans. A new breed of 270 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 3: hustler has emerged, wrapped in filters fake tears and desperate 271 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 3: pleas for digital roses. Welcome to TikTok Live, where the 272 00:16:55,840 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 3: currency is attention, the hustle is emotional manipulation, and Daddy 273 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 3: she that's the leader of China gets his cut from 274 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 3: every gift scent. 275 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 2: This isn't content. 276 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 3: It's high gloss panhandling performed not on a street corner 277 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 3: but from a ring lit bedroom, disguised as entertainment but 278 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 3: driven by the same shameless grind. You're not tipping a creator. 279 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 3: You're enabling a dopamine fueled dance of desperation and feeding 280 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 3: a machine that launders your sympathy into profit, all under 281 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 3: the watchful eye of the CCP. There's no hustle like 282 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 3: the sympathy hustle. Watch long enough and you'll see it all. 283 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 3: Grown adults fake crying over made up rent emergencies, moms 284 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 3: with their tits barely out, winding about daycare bills. Dudes 285 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 3: with three thousand followers begging for a galaxy so they 286 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 3: can eat tonight. 287 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 2: Spare me. What we're watching isn't hardship. 288 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 3: It's monetized emotional cosplay, spoon fed to viewers like pixelated meth. 289 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 3: And the worst part it works because this isn't a 290 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 3: platform anymore. It's a global digital swap meet for validation. 291 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 3: Starved grifters run out of Beijing. The algorithm doesn't care 292 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 3: about truth. It rewards whatever gets the most taps, the 293 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 3: most pity tips, the most people whispering oh my god, 294 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 3: are they okay in the comments while chucking coins at 295 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 3: the screen. And for every one hundred dollars in roses, 296 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 3: lions and whatever the hell else, TikTok Live is slinging Daddy. 297 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 3: She scrapes a chunk off the top and thanks you 298 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,199 Speaker 3: for your support of Chinese tech imperialism. 299 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 2: Let's call this what it is, a bastardized. 300 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 3: Blend of panhandling, cam girl desperation and black mirror social theater, 301 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 3: except now the pimp is a Communist party stakeholder. Gone 302 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 3: are the days of earning your keep. Just boot up 303 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 3: your life. I slap on a SOB story and beg 304 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 3: for your dinner with sparkly filters and emoji tears. Got 305 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 3: a disability, perfect, exploit it? Mental health issues even better, 306 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 3: break down on camera and rake it in. Lost your job, 307 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 3: cry for ten minutes, fake a power outage and call 308 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 3: it content. This is not about connection. It's about commodified despair, 309 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 3: and if you're not exploiting your own suffering yet. 310 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 2: You're leaving money on the table. 311 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 3: Meanwhile, the viewers, the suckers, keep feeding the beast because 312 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 3: sending a virtual lion makes them feel like philanthropists without 313 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 3: the inconvenience of actual generosity. You're not donating, you're paying 314 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 3: to be emotionally manipulated in real time by someone who 315 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 3: treats victimhood like a side hustle. Congrats, you just funded 316 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 3: someone's vape pen and made the CCP a little richer 317 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 3: in the process. And if you dare question the whole 318 00:19:56,680 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 3: rotten charade, get ready for the mob. Don't judge, they'll 319 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 3: scream as if this isn't judgment season twenty four to 320 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 3: seven on the very app. They're defending they're just trying 321 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 3: to survive. Yeah, so are people working twelve hour shifts 322 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 3: without shaking their tits for tips or faking seizures on 323 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:19,360 Speaker 3: live stream. We've reached a point where dignity is optional 324 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 3: and desperation is marketable, so long as you've got a 325 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 3: good ring light in a sad face. Street corners used 326 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 3: to be the bottom. Now it's TikTok live, where American 327 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 3: dignity is sold in thirty second loops and streams straight 328 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 3: to Beijing like oil through a pipeline. The real horror, 329 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 3: We're not even shocked anymore. We scroll past it like 330 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 3: it's just another day in clown world. A man pretending 331 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 3: to be an NPC for money. Cute, A single mom 332 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 3: dancing while her kid cries off screen. Brave, a teenager 333 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 3: with visible scars whispering. Tap the screen if you care relatable. 334 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 3: This isn't just sad, it's cultural decay and ten ADP 335 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:05,199 Speaker 3: live streamed and monetized by the minute. And let's not 336 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 3: forget TikTok doesn't just allow this, it engineers it. The 337 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 3: same algorithm that silences political dissent, that buries anything remotely 338 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 3: critical of China or the CCP actively boosts videos where 339 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 3: Americans look weak, desperate, and dysfunctional. Why Because nothing says 340 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 3: global dominance like having your geopolitical rivals youth dancing, begging 341 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 3: and trauma dumping. 342 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 2: For your profit. 343 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 3: This is warfare by humiliation, and the foot soldiers are 344 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:39,919 Speaker 3: doing it voluntarily for clout, for sympathy, for scraps. The creators, 345 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 3: their addicts, not to substances, but to attention, validation, and 346 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 3: the steady drip of coins that trickle in with every 347 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 3: emoji reaction. TikTok doesn't build influencers, It builds dependents. People 348 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 3: so wrapped in their own sob story personas they forget 349 00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 3: where the performance ends in reality begins and the audience. 350 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 2: You're not better, you're complicit. 351 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 3: You watch, you engage, You gift not because you care, 352 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 3: but because you're bored, because parasocial pity gives you a rush. 353 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 3: Because this is your entertainment now, watching people unravel in 354 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 3: real time and calling it empathy and beneath it all, Daddy, 355 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 3: she smiles, because TikTok is the most successful social trojan 356 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 3: horse ever deployed. No need to hack American infrastructure when 357 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 3: you can rode its culture from within, No need to 358 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 3: fight a war when you can make your adversary willingly 359 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 3: humiliate itself in public. Well started as lip syncing and 360 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 3: dance trends, has devolved into a digital freak show, a 361 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 3: marketplace of manipulated sadness where the house always wins and 362 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:50,679 Speaker 3: the house just happens to be in Beijing. This isn't entertainment, 363 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 3: This is cultural rot packaged as content a panhandling circus 364 00:22:56,080 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 3: with ring lights instead of corners, and filters instead of TikTok. 365 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 2: Lives aren't just cringed. 366 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 3: They're a sign that we've sold our dignity for coins 367 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 3: on an app owned by a regime that thrives on 368 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 3: our collapse. Every gift, every rose, every galaxy is proof 369 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:17,199 Speaker 3: that America is not just losing its edge, it's losing 370 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 3: its pride. It's amazing to me that China is our 371 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 3: mortal enemy. They thwart our efforts everywhere we discover a 372 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 3: new Chinese spy in the highest ranks of our top 373 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 3: secret research, the military, or our government, seemingly weakly. 374 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 2: And yet what do we do? What do we do? 375 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 3: Are we so addicted to cheap crap that we are 376 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 3: willing to empower of people who hate us? Why do 377 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 3: we allow any Chinese researchers to come to this country 378 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 3: when so many had been outed as spies? How many 379 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 3: people remember in Houston that at the consulate, once it 380 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 3: was discovered they were stealing medical records from the Houston 381 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 3: Medical Center as to how we were dealing with COVID, 382 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 3: seemingly so they could morph the disease to kill more 383 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 3: of us, but their motives will will agree to disagree over. 384 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 3: Once it was discovered that they were stealing our intellectual 385 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:40,360 Speaker 3: property and a raid was eminent, they opened the internal 386 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 3: courtyard and set a funeral power there and dumped all 387 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 3: the documents into it. Remember there was smoke everywhere. They 388 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 3: were burning documents in Houston, Texas. They had solen from 389 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 3: our medical center. 390 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:58,360 Speaker 2: Good gree. These people are our enemy. This is. 391 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 3: I know, what's the name to say, Michael buddy. There 392 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 3: are certain things from history that you don't just say, well, 393 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 3: that's history and move on. The Holocaust would be one 394 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 3: such example. The coronavirus and the quote unquote vaccine and 395 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 3: the mandatory jabs and the lives lost, the lockdowns. These 396 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 3: are things you don't simply move on from. You learn from. 397 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 3: But before you can learn from them, you have to 398 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 3: you have to face painful realities, and you have to 399 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 3: pick at a wound that a lot of people want 400 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 3: to move on from. That's not how you progress. George 401 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 3: Santana famously said, those who do not learn the lessons 402 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 3: of history. 403 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 2: Are doomed to repeat them. 404 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 3: Often, the very people who want to quote move on 405 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 3: don't want to bear responsibility for what happened. Nick Saban 406 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,679 Speaker 3: and other coaches will tell you that some of the 407 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 3: most important coaching you do of a team is not 408 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 3: during the team, during the game, but after the game, 409 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,959 Speaker 3: when you come in and watch that painful game film 410 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,719 Speaker 3: and you see what you did that you hope nobody noticed, 411 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 3: and how you. 412 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 2: Failed here and came up short there. 413 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 3: It is very important that we go back and understand 414 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 3: what happened on January sixth of twenty twenty one. It's 415 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 3: important that we understand what happened and not be told 416 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 3: what happened by those with an agenda, but that we 417 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:34,719 Speaker 3: do our own research and we ask questions of various people. 418 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 3: One of the most important voices in all of that 419 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 3: who has seemingly been silenced officially is Stephen sund who 420 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 3: was the Capitol Police Chief at that time on that day, 421 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 3: and he's our guest chief. 422 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 2: Welcome. 423 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 5: Thank you very much for having me on. Michael. 424 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 3: Let's start with how you ended up the Capitol Police 425 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,439 Speaker 3: chief leave January sixth aside, I think you were a 426 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 3: Metro Police pice officer in DC before that. Talk about 427 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 3: your career. Why did you get into law enforcement? Jeff 428 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 3: Family in it and then just walked me through your 429 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 3: whole career there. 430 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 5: Absolutely, I mean get the sorts succinctly as possible. 431 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 432 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 5: I started twenty five years with the DC Police and 433 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,360 Speaker 5: I got into policing because my dad had actually gotten 434 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,919 Speaker 5: sick early early on. He had got lakimia. Here's a 435 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 5: B fifty two pilot. He had been sick for a 436 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 5: number of years, but passed away when I was sixteen. 437 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 5: So after we got back from the funeral, we just 438 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 5: have to be visited by two friends of ours that 439 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 5: we used to live with right nearby California that became 440 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 5: Fremont Police officers Carolyn brad Brown meaning still stay in 441 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 5: touch today. They had reached out and came to visit. 442 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 5: This was the same day that we had buried my dad, 443 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,199 Speaker 5: and as a young sixteen year old, as a very 444 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 5: pivotal part of my life, I looked at and said, 445 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 5: you know what I think, I know what I want 446 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 5: to do, and at from that point on I was pursuing. 447 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 5: Right around twenty three, I applied to the couple different departments, 448 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 5: but DC Police picked me up. Started there right around 449 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 5: twenty five. By the time I went into the academy, 450 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 5: got out and patrolled as an officer and what they 451 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 5: call the sixth District, which is Antacostia, one of the 452 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 5: most violent parts of Washington. D C. Was there for 453 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 5: a couple of years. Made sergeant, went to seventy, which 454 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 5: is also one of the most violent parts in Anacostia, 455 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:23,880 Speaker 5: South Anacostia, down by South Capitol Street Congress Heights. Patrolled 456 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:25,679 Speaker 5: there for a little bit and then started rising up 457 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 5: through the ranks. Became a lieutenant and then I got 458 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 5: a signed downtown for a little bit and went to 459 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 5: Special Operations Division, where I kind of stayed from lieutenant 460 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 5: on doing all the major events, major demonstrations in Washington. 461 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 5: D C. Made Captain inspector, being commander of the Special 462 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 5: Operations Division from twenty ten to twenty fifteen, and that's 463 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 5: when I retired. At the end of the very last day, 464 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 5: December thirty first, twenty fifteen, I retired. We had the 465 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 5: Pope come visit in October, and I figured that it's 466 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 5: a good time to head out. Went out and you know, 467 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 5: kind of worked a little bit in the private sector 468 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 5: for just about eight months, and then the House and 469 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 5: Senate Sergeant Arms approached me to come over and become 470 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 5: the assistant chief of Operations for Capitol Police and January seventh. 471 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 5: I started in twenty seventeen, started at the US Capitol 472 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 5: Police just a few days before Trump's inauguration, and I'd 473 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 5: been involved in It's probably my fifth or sixth inauguration 474 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 5: I've been involved in planning of so they brought me 475 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 5: in right before that and was there, and then in 476 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,959 Speaker 5: May became the May of twenty nineteen, became the chief 477 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 5: and started revamping a lot of operations and capabilities, and 478 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 5: then January sixth happened and I was removed from the 479 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 5: position the very next day by Spear Pelosi. And I'm 480 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 5: sure our conversation is going to cover a couple of 481 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 5: things along. 482 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 3: There, absolutely, but before that, let's set in place our 483 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 3: procedure so we know the context within which we're working. 484 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 3: I was with Senator Cruz at an event in Milwaukee 485 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 3: a few years ago, and he had a large contingent 486 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,479 Speaker 3: of Capitol Police, and I learned that those are a 487 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 3: sign based on kind of death threats, and it's all 488 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 3: on the screen, as you know. And it turns out 489 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 3: he was getting more death threats and than Pelosi and 490 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 3: every other member of Congress combined, and it was kind 491 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 3: of interesting to me that that was you know that 492 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 3: that unlike the president, which is kind of you know, 493 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 3: designated secret service for the president. It was sort of 494 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 3: where is the threat right now? It might be Jasmine 495 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 3: Crockett on Monday, it might be Ted Cruz on on Thursday, 496 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 3: or whoever that might be. But talk to me about 497 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 3: how the capital police chief is hired and to whom 498 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 3: they report in take orders. 499 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 5: Okay, and you're you're you're absolutely right about what you 500 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 5: just you just mentioned. We do statutory security details for 501 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 5: the leadership, the four on the House and the Senate side, 502 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 5: and then others based on the threat. So you're a 503 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 5: sure right there. So the Capitol police chief, and it's interesting, 504 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 5: it's not like any other police chief in the country. 505 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 5: I report to a Capitol Police Board. They're the one 506 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 5: that hire and fire me. Uh we'll get into that too. 507 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 5: They're the ones that really have the hiring authority, but 508 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 5: they only do it with the approval of Senate leadership 509 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 5: and House leadershi of h So when I was first hired, 510 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 5: you had let's see, Schumer was over on the for 511 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 5: the chief's position. The humor was over on the Senate 512 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 5: side and Pelos who was on the House side, and 513 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 5: they both had to approve my hiring for the position. 514 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 5: So you go through, and what's interesting to understand is 515 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 5: the Capitol Police Board is made up of four individuals, 516 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 5: the House and Senate Sergeant Arms, who are considered to 517 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 5: be the lead law enforcement agent for the House and 518 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 5: for the for the and one for the Senate. So 519 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 5: when you think of the chief as the top law 520 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 5: enforcement official for the legislative branch, I'm sorry. When you 521 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 5: think of the chief as top law enforcement official for 522 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 5: the legislative branch, that's not the case. The Senate and 523 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 5: the House Starge Arms actually are are above me. The 524 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 5: third person in the Capitol Police Board is the architect 525 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 5: of the Capitol, and then the fourth person is the 526 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 5: chief of Police. The three people that are politically appointed, 527 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 5: the House and Senate Sarge Arms, the or Extecut and 528 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 5: the Capitol all have a vote on how things go 529 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 5: for the Capitol Police and they covered They control everything 530 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 5: from some schedules, which doors we cover, which equipment we 531 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 5: can use. If I want to get my officer's tasers, 532 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 5: I had to go to the Capitol Police Board and 533 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 5: get approval and I had to go to my oversight 534 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 5: Committe and get aproval for them. If I wanted to, 535 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 5: like deploy fencing, I got to go to the Capitol 536 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 5: Police Board if I want to everything, pretty much all 537 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 5: operations has to be approved by the Capitol of Base Boards. 538 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 5: That just gives you a little bit of an idea 539 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 5: what I'm dealing with. No, Yeah, as the chief, it's 540 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 5: very political. It's very political because they the House and 541 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 5: Senate Sergeant arms who carry mostly weight, don't want to 542 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 5: do anything that's going to upset their congressional leader. So 543 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 5: we may be having a hearing on the Supreme Court 544 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 5: justice being nominated, and I want to put up certain offencing. Well, 545 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 5: one side they want no fencing put up so protesters 546 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 5: can come in, you know, proms or you know. The 547 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 5: other side they want to shut down all the buildings 548 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 5: in public entry so we don't have That's. 549 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 3: Going to be a good segue into our next discussion point. 550 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 3: Our guest is Steven Sund who was the Chief of 551 00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 3: police of the Capitol Police on January sixth, twenty twenty one. 552 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 2: That fateful day. 553 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 3: Will talk about his perspective, which I bet you haven't heard, 554 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 3: and may be surprised by coming up