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Speaker 3: I feel like that they've started breaking down intelligence into
Speaker 3: different groups. Yeah, it used to be smarter dumb, but
Speaker 3: now there's different kinds of intelligence, including emotional intelligence.
Speaker 2: And I ran into a guy who had very low.
Speaker 3: Emotional intelligence or whatever ability it is that some people
Speaker 3: have or don't have to read a room to read
Speaker 3: other people's body language or faces or whatever, right, and
Speaker 3: it's amazing. I mean I have run into several people.
Speaker 3: I know some people that are very high on that,
Speaker 3: Like I think Trump is extraordinarily high on that. He
Speaker 3: probably actually is genius level when it comes to emotional intelligence.
Speaker 3: I think a lot of successful people probably are. But
Speaker 3: I've known some really smart, successful people that seem to
Speaker 3: have like zero I mean, they're like imbeciles when it
Speaker 3: comes to emotional intelligence. And I met one on vacation,
Speaker 3: as I said, the world's least humble marine, And yes,
Speaker 3: go ahead.
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, do you think a decent
Speaker 1: description of emotional intelligence is understanding how the other person
Speaker 1: is receiving an exchange.
Speaker 3: Perceiving that absolutely, And it seems to me the people
Speaker 3: that are really bad at it have never even considered
Speaker 3: the idea of wondering.
Speaker 2: How the people are reacting to them.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like, truly, the uh, you have no
Speaker 1: idea how bad you or the more dumb you are,
Speaker 1: the smarter you think you are, one of those things.
Speaker 2: Yeah, everyone asked their question.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the whole incompetent people don't know they're incompetent.
Speaker 3: And I guess that's true on all topics. And my
Speaker 3: experience with military people as we've Joe and I have
Speaker 3: done so many things with so many military people over
Speaker 3: the years, and we both have family members in the military.
Speaker 3: Military people tend to be pretty humble just the way
Speaker 3: they are, and the higher up the food chain you
Speaker 3: go in that the more likely they are to be humble,
Speaker 3: Like Special Force dudes, super humble guys you would never
Speaker 3: know there. And most Marines I've ever met in my
Speaker 3: life were like that also, except for this guy. So
Speaker 3: I'm on vacation and my son and I is actually
Speaker 3: going to be both my boys and I were going
Speaker 3: to take this boat trip. It's like this inflatable boat
Speaker 3: probably fit fifteen twenty people on it, maybe a couple
Speaker 3: of motors, and you're going to go out on the
Speaker 3: ocean and it was described as a pretty rough ride
Speaker 3: and then you ride around in the ocean and then
Speaker 3: there's going to be some snarkling and then a ride
Speaker 3: back and has a pretty long trip. It was like
Speaker 3: three hours total. But anyway they made it clear is
Speaker 3: really rough. And then my youngest son decided he didn't
Speaker 3: want to do it, and thank god he made that
Speaker 3: decision because.
Speaker 2: He would have never been able to handle it. It
Speaker 2: was grueling. I mean it really grueling.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you had to have your feet underneath these straps
Speaker 3: and then you had to hang on with both hands
Speaker 3: to these other ropes.
Speaker 2: Have you done this before?
Speaker 4: I have?
Speaker 2: And these boats are not a smooth ride.
Speaker 3: No, no, super rough and you like had to hang
Speaker 3: on and really hard with your legs and your arms
Speaker 3: to stay in the boat.
Speaker 4: And it was.
Speaker 2: Hours of this.
Speaker 3: And it is a pretty physically grueling thing to do.
Speaker 3: And it was fun, but I mean you'd go over
Speaker 3: waves and land and boom.
Speaker 2: And it was just like such a jolt to your spine.
Speaker 3: I mean it was it was wrong AnyWho, So before
Speaker 3: we got on the boat, there's a young dude in
Speaker 3: a bucket hat, sunglasses, and a this is on the
Speaker 3: fourth of July, a red, white and blue speedo.
Speaker 2: And he's a super.
Speaker 3: Fit guy, like big guy, guessing like six two two ten,
Speaker 3: very fit, very muscular dude.
Speaker 1: Just to clarify, the bucket hat, the sunglasses, the speedo
Speaker 1: and nothing else.
Speaker 2: Correct, Okay, all right, he had flip flops on, well,
Speaker 2: grandam of a pair of flip flops, red white and.
Speaker 3: Blue speedo and and uh, you know, there's a variety
Speaker 3: of groups so like husbands and wives or boyfriends and girlfriends,
Speaker 3: or like me and my son. And then he's by
Speaker 3: himself and they talk about before we're gonna get on
Speaker 3: the boat. The captain who is a super cool dude,
Speaker 3: really really cool dude. He was six years in the
Speaker 3: Coastguard and then he's run other big ships around the
Speaker 3: world and he piloted this thing and he went in
Speaker 3: and out of rocks. I mean, he's like one of
Speaker 3: the most confident people I've ever been around in my life.
Speaker 2: I wish I was like him.
Speaker 3: He was military, so that factors into the story because
Speaker 3: he was like your regular military guy kind of humble
Speaker 3: and you know, not trying to show off or anything
Speaker 3: like that. So he tells we're all to sit on
Speaker 3: the boat, and you know, if you really want to
Speaker 3: smoother ride, sit in the back. It gets rougher as
Speaker 3: you go toward the front. And then if like you're
Speaker 3: really worried about this, sit in the middle pillar. And
Speaker 3: so there are some older people that sat in the
Speaker 3: middle pillar. Some girls did and then kind of spread out,
Speaker 3: and my son and I were up toward the front.
Speaker 3: Marine guy takes fronts he I'll take front, And guy said, okay, cool,
Speaker 3: you're sure, said, I'm semper fie man, I don't worry
Speaker 3: about it. Oh so right off the bat, Marines never
Speaker 3: freaking tell you you're the marine unless it comes up
Speaker 3: in conversation. The fact that he just said that right
Speaker 3: there is the first time I've ever heard that in
Speaker 3: my life. At the guy in the speedo. So he
Speaker 3: gets up there and he's sitting toward the front, and uh,
Speaker 3: we take off on the boat and he's just non
Speaker 3: stop talking the whole time, never stops talking, talking to
Speaker 3: the captain, talking to all the girls around him. Of course,
Speaker 3: non stop chatterbox caught it. I don't know how many
Speaker 3: times you mentioned he was a marine or he was
Speaker 3: simper fie. Wait, too many times not hanging on to
Speaker 3: any of the ropes. He would just fly up in
Speaker 3: the air and land and kind of balance some stuff. See,
Speaker 3: I don't need to hang on. I'm semper fine.
Speaker 2: And I hate him already, I know, I know. And
Speaker 2: it gets worse.
Speaker 3: So they're going around, and so they start handing out
Speaker 3: The captain starts handing out gloves. He said, you're your
Speaker 3: your your knuckles are gonna get rubbed bloody holding onto
Speaker 3: the ropes against the canvas of the boats.
Speaker 2: Let me guess.
Speaker 3: So if you want to wear gloves, you can get him,
Speaker 3: he said, I don't need him. And the captain CD,
Speaker 3: I didn't know you'd take any captain city.
Speaker 2: The captain is already tired of this.
Speaker 3: Dude.
Speaker 2: You can tell.
Speaker 3: Captain says, uh, yeah, I didn't figure you'd want to.
Speaker 3: Of course, not sip for five. We don't use gloves. Okay,
Speaker 3: we get it. Dude, you've made it clear to everyone
Speaker 3: on this tiny boat who's hurt you already. You are
Speaker 3: in the Marines. He's actually stole the Marines. But you're
Speaker 3: a tough guy. We all fully understand.
Speaker 2: The whole dynamic of what's going on.
Speaker 1: We just stipulate that move on, get it, and it's neat.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: So we're on this boat ride and the captain points
Speaker 3: out a couple of hikes and swims that people do
Speaker 3: in this touristy area on the ocean, and he talks
Speaker 3: about this one. It's a seventeen mile hike and swim.
Speaker 3: Not very many people do it. Do it?
Speaker 2: Do it?
Speaker 3: It's really really hard to do. It's really grueling. You
Speaker 3: have to be like an expert swimmer. Marine voices, I
Speaker 3: just did it, did it yesterday. I didn't think it
Speaker 3: was that big a deal. I'm not kitty, I'm not kidding.
Speaker 5: Oh you go ahead, he says, when you go, whoops
Speaker 5: and accidentally just donkey kick him off the side of above.
Speaker 1: You know, if only his dad had told him like once,
Speaker 1: I'm proud of you, son, or a good job.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, you think that's it? Uh, that could be
Speaker 3: it and not a shock that he was by himself.
Speaker 3: But so he had done this grueling like seventeen mile
Speaker 3: coastal swim or whatever. And the captain, the coastguard veteran guy,
Speaker 3: was pretty person. He said, wow, you did that, and
Speaker 3: he said, yeah, I didn't think it was that much.
Speaker 3: And he said, I don't know how many people have
Speaker 3: done that? Were you with some people? Says by myself.
Speaker 3: He said, man, that's not a very good idea. I
Speaker 3: usually suggest that people are going to do that swim
Speaker 3: they have a boat with him or nah, says a
Speaker 3: marine guy.
Speaker 2: Okay, fine, we get that going.
Speaker 3: But here's the ending of my story. This is my
Speaker 3: favorite part of the whole thing. The captain, super cool guy,
Speaker 3: has a big speaker on his boat and he's blasting
Speaker 3: music the whole time, which made it kind of fun.
Speaker 3: And he's got like a bunch of different cool songs,
Speaker 3: so Jimmy Buffett tunes and different stuff like that, and
Speaker 3: just you know, kind of songs that people would like.
Speaker 3: And then this song comes on Michael, So that song
Speaker 3: starts and the marine says, hey, you know what I
Speaker 3: call this song? Captain's like, what Freeballin'? Oh no, He's like,
Speaker 3: what freeballing? You haven't ever heard that term freeballing. It's
Speaker 3: like when guys don't wear underwear, we call it freeballin.
Speaker 2: And I wanted to say to him, everybody got it, dude.
Speaker 3: We all understood from the first moment you said that
Speaker 3: you're pun.
Speaker 2: You You're fantastic pun.
Speaker 3: We just thought it was like coursing uncool, and there's
Speaker 3: there are a couple of they're not children on here,
Speaker 3: but there's a couple of like high school girls or whatever,
Speaker 3: not appropriate content for them or whatever. So then when
Speaker 3: it gets to the chorus, the chorus comes on and
Speaker 3: he stands up. So now free balling, like, really, emphasize again,
Speaker 3: freak on everybody's free balling? Are you?
Speaker 2: Are you teschnicles Michael, You're right, Yes, you're good.
Speaker 3: I actually thought at one point, are you a Saturday
Speaker 3: Night Live bit?
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask, are you in the background of
Speaker 1: some jackass ish video you're reacting to?
Speaker 2: That's wow? It was amazing.
Speaker 5: This guy sounds cringe from start to finish. Every part
Speaker 5: of this.
Speaker 2: I hate jack.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it was just it was tough and I
Speaker 3: didn't know if my son was picking up on it
Speaker 3: or not. But when we got off, the buddy was like, God.
Speaker 2: That guy was an ad you know.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, everybody and the captain just trying to ignore it.
Speaker 2: Now, what do you call it? Free Ballin' Okay, do
Speaker 2: you get it?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 3: We all get everybody gets it. See the problems. And
Speaker 3: that's where I come in with the emotional intelligence thing.
Speaker 3: I mean, it was clear all of us looking around
Speaker 3: that we I mean, we're all looking at each other.
Speaker 2: We all felt exactly the same way.
Speaker 4: And I would like to It's like an experiment as
Speaker 4: a sociologist to talk to the guy and say, are
Speaker 4: you really not picking up on any of the use
Speaker 4: that everybody on this boat is giving that one?
Speaker 3: They're tired of hearing you talk too. They don't think
Speaker 3: your course jokes are funny, like you really that hasn't
Speaker 3: sunk into you at all.
Speaker 2: Was he drinking? No? Okay, Do you think he was
Speaker 2: a real marine or was he just being a marine?
Speaker 2: I definitely think he's a real marine, and he had
Speaker 2: all the They talked a lot about what base you
Speaker 2: been on and when you get out and blah blah blah,
Speaker 2: and he had too much knowledge about it. I think
Speaker 2: his marine.
Speaker 3: I just think he I think he's a super stud athlete,
Speaker 3: really good looking guy. So the uh the there's a
Speaker 3: captain and then there's another person who's like the tour
Speaker 3: guide and talks and takes lots of pictures, and she
Speaker 3: was like twenty five and super attractive. She went up
Speaker 3: to the front to sit by him at one point,
Speaker 3: like when we first started, because I think she was thinking,
Speaker 3: here's a single guy, good looking guy.
Speaker 2: I'm good looking girl talking. She was up there like
Speaker 2: five minutes, went back to the back of the boat.
Speaker 5: Okay, from the department of this is why you're single, dude?
Speaker 2: You know, uh number number one one?
Speaker 1: Well, I'll skip to this second point reminds me of
Speaker 1: a dude I ran into in Lama's classes when Judy
Speaker 1: was pregnant with her first and it was so obviously
Speaker 1: a case where a big stud dumb ass found himself
Speaker 1: some hot dumb chick and the two of them got
Speaker 1: together and pretty quickly started to make each other insane.
Speaker 1: And he is so clearly headed for that sort of
Speaker 1: future he is. He's got to be in the outermost,
Speaker 1: like three percent of utterly clueless.
Speaker 3: Right, And man, imagine how difficult that is to make
Speaker 3: it through life if you can't read other people's reactions
Speaker 3: to you at all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're standing on a boat screaming, freeballing, right
Speaker 2: and in a family setting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it wouldn't be It wouldn't have been
Speaker 3: funny if we'd all been nineteen year old dudes.
Speaker 2: It's still yeah, we get it. We got it right
Speaker 2: at the beginning. You don't need to sing it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there was no way for the captain to make
Speaker 5: him accidentally fall overboard.
Speaker 1: Huh well, I was just gonna say, Karma really demanded
Speaker 1: that when the boat flew up in the air, he
Speaker 1: smacked down hard, maybe on them, you know, Karma punishing
Speaker 1: him for his uh well, the aforementioned sins.
Speaker 3: And I thought kind of what you were thinking there
Speaker 3: is like, how many women have fallen for this good
Speaker 3: looking studley dude and how long did it take him
Speaker 3: to figure out?
Speaker 2: And or is the reverse? Is this the really dumb
Speaker 2: hot chick that guys put up with for a while.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but.
Speaker 1: I see him connecting with either the and forgive me
Speaker 1: for referencing it anyway, but the hawk twak girl who
Speaker 1: was viral for a cup of coffee or the two
Speaker 1: stupid good looking chicks who stole the girl scouts money
Speaker 1: who had played the clips of whoa WHOA right many times? Well,
Speaker 1: they had the money and I wanted it. He'll end
Speaker 1: up with one of them or both of the.
Speaker 5: Speaking of a hawk two egg girl, I just want
Speaker 5: to let you know. I was at a bar over
Speaker 5: our vacation and my husband was elsewhere. So this guy
Speaker 5: came up and stood next to me and went, Hey,
Speaker 5: I just want to let you know. You look just
Speaker 5: like the hawk two ey girl. Oh, And I said,
Speaker 5: first of all, no, I don't. Second of all, is
Speaker 5: that your opening line? That's what you're going up to
Speaker 5: chicks now and saying. So anyway, I'm apparently the other
Speaker 5: hawk two ey girl.
Speaker 1: I got a marine, buddy, I think you should beat
Speaker 1: it to you and get along.
Speaker 2: Great Jack Armstrong and Joe the Armstrong and Getty Show.
Speaker 1: Here's we're talking about the neo Marxist trying to subvert
Speaker 1: society and what Americans love and are proud of and
Speaker 1: the rest of it. And a lot of people go
Speaker 1: along with them because they think they're doing the right thing.
Speaker 1: Here's a Democrat led town in Connecticut. This state trooper
Speaker 1: was killed by a hit and run driver last week,
Speaker 1: young Man family. The whole tragedy story that you've heard,
Speaker 1: you know too many times. But several of the council
Speaker 1: people wanted to fly the thin Blue Line flag in
Speaker 1: his honor and explained why they wanted to and what
Speaker 1: a fine fellow he was and what a tragedy it was.
Speaker 1: But several of the council members said, no, we can't
Speaker 1: do that. It represents racism and antagonism to many, many people.
Speaker 1: And if you don't personally believe that, and you fly
Speaker 1: it at your house and think it means something to you,
Speaker 1: that's fine, but we can't do it because again, it
Speaker 1: represents racism antagonism to many many people.
Speaker 2: Here's how this works.
Speaker 1: The flag, which has always indicated support for concern for
Speaker 1: love for police officers. During the heyday of the defund
Speaker 1: the police movement, the Black Lives Matter movements, which are
Speaker 1: both neo Marxist movements, they're trying to tear down the West.
Speaker 2: They've admitted as much.
Speaker 1: While they were in the midst of that fervor, they
Speaker 1: convinced people that any support of police police is racist
Speaker 1: and antagonistic, even though it's not and it was never
Speaker 1: intended to be. But they convinced a bunch of people
Speaker 1: that a legitimate expression of support for police is racist.
Speaker 1: And so now you have people saying, I've heard that's racist.
Speaker 2: Right, or at least controversial. Right.
Speaker 1: That's how that works, as James Lindsay has put it, Really,
Speaker 1: James Lindsay, if you want to control something, call it
Speaker 1: racist until you control it.
Speaker 2: Here's another brief example. Here's a North.
Speaker 1: Carolina teen, North Carolina, you ought to be better than this,
Speaker 1: suspended from school for using the term illegal alien in
Speaker 1: a classroom discussion. An administrator likened that to saying the
Speaker 1: N word. Sixteen year old Christian McGee, Right, wow, right,
Speaker 1: and so now is this here's the difference between the
Speaker 1: N word and illegal alien.
Speaker 3: I can say illegal alien over and over, just like
Speaker 3: you did, teacher, illegal alien, illegal aid.
Speaker 2: Try saying the innword. You'll notice the difference quick.
Speaker 1: Well, and check federal statutes, so you will find the
Speaker 1: term illegal alien all over the damned place. So is
Speaker 1: this school administrator an activist, a neo Marxist activist?
Speaker 2: Could be? There are a lot of them.
Speaker 1: Are they just a soft head that has been swept
Speaker 1: up in thinking, Oh, that's I'm told that it's it's
Speaker 1: racist to use that term.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna punish anybody who does.
Speaker 3: Probably that one the useful idiot, right, it is in
Speaker 3: no way which is why it makes me so crazy
Speaker 3: that now you hear even Fox News using the term migrant.
Speaker 2: How did we decide.
Speaker 1: To go from illegal immigrant to immigrant to migrant. It's
Speaker 1: because activists on the far left insisted on it and said,
Speaker 1: if you don't, you're a racist.
Speaker 2: And people said, dud, I don't want to be a racist,
Speaker 2: so I'll do what you tell me to do.
Speaker 1: How about a little independent thought, folks, Goodness, before we
Speaker 1: get to that too quick?
Speaker 2: Things on.
Speaker 3: I just looked up at the Twitter machine and there
Speaker 3: is something on there about young people in New York
Speaker 3: talking about how they all got punched in the face
Speaker 3: because of a recent TikTok challenge in which the thing
Speaker 3: was to just walk up and punch people in the face,
Speaker 3: and some of the morons do it. I want a
Speaker 3: TikTok challenge that is, it's the uh, leave your parents' house,
Speaker 3: get a job and support yourself challenge, the follow the law,
Speaker 3: pay your taxes, and raise your kids right challenge.
Speaker 2: See if that catches on, it'll be waiting forever for that. God.
Speaker 3: I saw one the other day where there's a whole
Speaker 3: bunch of iterations of this of like it's just abusing
Speaker 3: old people scaring them basically, and.
Speaker 1: It's just horrific, harsh and draconian penalty act, like somebody
Speaker 1: broke into the house for grandma and then and you
Speaker 1: know get her reaction.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because she's an old woman who thinks somebody broke
Speaker 3: into her home. That's why she reacted that way. Why
Speaker 3: is that funny? You freaking moron. You should be in
Speaker 3: jail just for this.
Speaker 5: You know, it's concerning the people who do that and
Speaker 5: the people who laugh at it.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, this one was a I guess this
Speaker 3: was a Jackass thing originally from the Jackass movie.
Speaker 2: I saw this on TikTok the other day.
Speaker 3: It was you push a stroller with a baby in it,
Speaker 3: a fake baby at toy the doll.
Speaker 2: Doll is the term fake.
Speaker 3: Baby, Yeah, and bother sh and like, you know, the
Speaker 3: stroller you accidentally trip and push it into traffic in
Speaker 3: a car hits it or something like that, and then
Speaker 3: you get the reaction of people who are horrified that
Speaker 3: a baby just got ran over.
Speaker 2: Why is that funny?
Speaker 5: Or you get the people that run out into traffic
Speaker 5: trying to stop it. Right, there's another guy that's going
Speaker 5: he went viral the other day that was going through
Speaker 5: like walmarts and targets and going up to people that
Speaker 5: had full carts, families, I mean everything, and just pulling
Speaker 5: the cart and knocking it over and knocking this stuff
Speaker 5: everywhere and then running away for no reason at all
Speaker 5: other than to be.
Speaker 3: A dick, right, And then their friends film that and
Speaker 3: put it on TikTok, and then people watch it, and
Speaker 3: I think that's okay.
Speaker 2: I guess I. Well, I had them with the algorithm.
Speaker 2: Is the more attention they get, they get paid.
Speaker 3: I'm glad you're young and complaining about this, because when
Speaker 3: Joe and I complain about this, we just sound like,
Speaker 3: you know, old men about modern culture.
Speaker 2: But this is a change in society.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, yeah, well you're complaining about it. I'm even
Speaker 1: now sketching out my plan to form a vigilante group
Speaker 1: that's going to find these Internet scoundrels and hunt them
Speaker 1: down and.
Speaker 2: Give them some real world ass kickings. Oh I know
Speaker 2: what it was.
Speaker 3: So you take the car carrier thing that you put
Speaker 3: your baby in, like when you go into the grocery store,
Speaker 3: and then come back and snap it into the car seat.
Speaker 3: The person puts it on top of the car. It
Speaker 3: does some stuff and then drives off with on top
Speaker 3: of the car, and then you film the reactions of
Speaker 3: everybody freaking out that you drove off with your baby
Speaker 3: on top of your car.
Speaker 2: I do love it.
Speaker 5: In New York, there is a hashtag I punch back,
Speaker 5: and there are a series of videos.
Speaker 3: Of people I'll tell you what you come and knock
Speaker 3: over my cart full of stuff with my kids there.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to fight myself to not tackle you.
Speaker 2: And we're rolling around to find out.
Speaker 1: Oh god, dang it, all right, Well, this is troubling
Speaker 1: and disturbing in the world is ugly and full of
Speaker 1: evil anyway. So it turns out a giant cargo ship
Speaker 1: took out a bridge in Baltimore on the day that
Speaker 1: we are recording this podcast. The death toll is yet
Speaker 1: on unknown, but at a terrible disaster and incredibly dramatic
Speaker 1: video as well. This posted at Armstrong and Giddy dot
Speaker 1: com Tuesday, March twenty sixth Anyway, got this.
Speaker 2: Note from twenty thirty two. Very good.
Speaker 1: I'm speaking to you from the moon colony. While Jack
Speaker 1: remains on Earth. Trump is in his fifteenth term. Finally, finally,
Speaker 1: one party rule, as we dreamed of secret all those
Speaker 1: years we were talking about the Constitution. So Al the Mariner,
Speaker 1: we'll just call him Al Anonymous. I don't think he'd mind,
Speaker 1: but does this sort of thing for a living, big
Speaker 1: ship shipping, and has corresponded with us through the years
Speaker 1: whenever something in his realm comes up, and he's quite
Speaker 1: knowledgeable and appreciate the note. But i'll read you parts
Speaker 1: of his email to us. I watched this with my
Speaker 1: captain and cadet. I don't know what a cadet is.
Speaker 1: Apparently that's something on a ship, and from what we
Speaker 1: can tell, it looks like they lost the plant the
Speaker 1: ship's power and or propulsion and collided with the northern
Speaker 1: span of the bridge.
Speaker 2: Yeah, actually twice they lost power.
Speaker 1: She meaning the boat most definitely had at least a
Speaker 1: harbor pilot on board, and may even have had a
Speaker 1: docking pilot on board too. Harbor or bay pilots get
Speaker 1: the ship from the sea buoy to the port, and
Speaker 1: docking pilots park the ship. Driving a conning a ship
Speaker 1: or driving it isn't nearly as simple as most people
Speaker 1: think it is. I don't think it's simple. It's probably
Speaker 1: really hard. Oh I thought it was hard, and it's
Speaker 1: harder than I thought. This ship has a bow thruster one,
Speaker 1: so okay, whoo. I'm trying so hard not to laugh.
Speaker 1: I don't want to give him the encouragement.
Speaker 2: That was great, Jack, Thank you for that. Child.
Speaker 3: God, my child is right, my son who's twelve, and
Speaker 3: I don't think he knows what he's talking about.
Speaker 2: Drop to That's what she said on me the other day.
Speaker 3: Because it's popular in school, and I don't think they
Speaker 3: most of them know what they're really talking about.
Speaker 2: But I don't see that gives me hope for the
Speaker 2: next generation. It really does. Were they discussing China on
Speaker 2: the playground? Oh boy?
Speaker 1: So the ship has a bow thruster just like Jack,
Speaker 1: one slow speed diesel engine, and one fixed pitch propeller.
Speaker 1: In order for most of these types of ships to
Speaker 1: reverse propulsion, the engineers first have to have to unclutch
Speaker 1: the shaft I won't good, shut down the engine, stop
Speaker 1: the shaft from spinning, restart the engine backwards, and clutch
Speaker 1: in the shaft. These ships are built to run most
Speaker 1: of their lives going forward as efficiently as possible, so
Speaker 1: they are incredibly inefficient trying to make way a stern
Speaker 1: backing up. In a perfect world, it would take a
Speaker 1: few minutes to start backing down. Well, this isn't a
Speaker 1: perfect world. Wow, I didn't know they could start going
Speaker 1: backwards that fast. I figured it took longer than that,
Speaker 1: longer than what. No, in a perfect world, it would
Speaker 1: take a few minutes to start backing down. But this
Speaker 1: is not a perfect world. With ships, you can't just
Speaker 1: put it in reverse. First, you are trying to take
Speaker 1: off ten of thousands of long tons of momentum. It's
Speaker 1: a term I'm completely unfamiliar with, with the added delay
Speaker 1: of the plant going through its process of getting the
Speaker 1: stern bell going. So for the most part, mariners have
Speaker 1: to maneuver their way out of an open moment. If
Speaker 1: you don't have power, you can't move the hydraulics involved
Speaker 1: with the rudder to push your stern over most cargoes,
Speaker 1: vessel pivot point is a third of the ship's length
Speaker 1: from the bow to the so even if we were
Speaker 1: able to start a turn, the ship may still have
Speaker 1: hit the bridge on the side of the vessel like
Speaker 1: a glancing blow. Also, with a fixed pitch prop, you
Speaker 1: will back up the opposite side. Your screw pins oh,
Speaker 1: back up to the opposite side your screwpins. For example,
Speaker 1: if your prop spins clockwise going forward, this is called
Speaker 1: the right handed propeller. While you're trying to back up,
Speaker 1: your stern will get pushed to the left. Then he
Speaker 1: goes into how the rudder works. But the point is
Speaker 1: it is a nightmare to maneuver these things, and you've
Speaker 1: got to be extremely good at it because there's so
Speaker 1: much energy, that much weight in motion.
Speaker 2: Well, I know you're seafaring people, Katie.
Speaker 3: Your dad has a boat and everything, But if you've
Speaker 3: ever driven a boat at all, you know how difficult
Speaker 3: it can be to, you know, go a certain direction
Speaker 3: or stop from going a certain direction if you miscalculate.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, and everything takes extra time. There is no
Speaker 5: immediate maneuver on anything.
Speaker 2: On the water.
Speaker 3: And then so our Joe and I's friend Dave, who
Speaker 3: lives on a boat down San Diego. Last time I
Speaker 3: was with it, I guess it was last Friday, fourth
Speaker 3: of July. So we're on his boat and we come
Speaker 3: back and he lost motors. He lost one of his motors,
Speaker 3: so he lost the motor on one side, so he
Speaker 3: could only navigate one direction and man we ended up
Speaker 3: having a bad thing happen.
Speaker 2: But we are all on.
Speaker 3: One side of boat, trying to keep us from smashing
Speaker 3: into all these other boats and smashing his boat up
Speaker 3: against the poles, because once you start drifting, and he
Speaker 3: got no motors, like that guy was talking about, if
Speaker 3: you've got no power, you're just going the direction going.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I don't know if you guys saw that
Speaker 5: video where it's sped up where you can see where
Speaker 5: this ship is heading towards the bridge.
Speaker 2: I mean the power goes out twice.
Speaker 5: So they're clearly having some big issues, let alone trying
Speaker 5: to maneuver this thing.
Speaker 1: Right, And I'll get to that in just a second,
Speaker 1: but he points out the description of how the rudder
Speaker 1: works that and anybody who has a boat knows this.
Speaker 2: You can't turn a boat that isn't moving right. It's
Speaker 2: got to be.
Speaker 1: Moving to turn, and if you need it to turn quickly,
Speaker 1: it needs to be going fast.
Speaker 2: If you've driven on snow or ice, you know this
Speaker 2: phenomenon also, right.
Speaker 1: So anyway, so they had that problem, and it takes
Speaker 1: a long damn time to move a ship like that significantly,
Speaker 1: especially at the speeds they were going.
Speaker 2: Then he says.
Speaker 1: All of that being said, the loss of power adds
Speaker 1: a massive delay to try to make any corrective action.
Speaker 1: In the video you can see the lights cut off
Speaker 1: and back on again. We timed it. It took well
Speaker 1: over a minute to get power back on. The regulations
Speaker 1: say that the emergency diesel generators should only take it
Speaker 1: most forty five seconds to restore power to the emergency systems.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that reminds me of the text we got that
Speaker 3: said I didn't know Boeing made ships.
Speaker 1: Now, uh yeah, yeah, uh. With this, you'll probably hear
Speaker 1: why didn't they just drop an anchor? Well, it doesn't
Speaker 1: work like that in the movie Battleship or Contraband. In
Speaker 1: order for the flukes of modern anchors to fetch up,
Speaker 1: you have to be going almost one knot. I had
Speaker 1: a captain tell me one time, never run aground with
Speaker 1: two anchors on board.
Speaker 2: They don't do. But it makes it looks like you
Speaker 2: tried everything. Oh okay, So.
Speaker 3: That said, just first of all, I didn't think of
Speaker 3: the anchor thing. If I'd thought of it, I would
Speaker 3: have said that myself. Why didn't they drop the anchor?
Speaker 3: But don't run aground without having dropped both anchors, or
Speaker 3: at least it looks like you tried.
Speaker 2: Wow. Wow.
Speaker 1: Things like this can have a number of things go wrong,
Speaker 1: ranging from misjudgment from the pilot, of miscommunication between the
Speaker 1: pilot and captain, or a mistake in the engine room
Speaker 1: that caused a loss of power and or propulsion. Shoot,
Speaker 1: it could be all three. I highly recommend keeping an
Speaker 1: eye on the YouTube channel what is going on with shipping.
Speaker 1: The guy there does a great job at explaining maritime
Speaker 1: and navy stuff, and he'll break this down as soon
Speaker 1: as he has info.
Speaker 3: So these great, big giant tanker ships that got all
Speaker 3: those containers on them, and railroad cars and stuff like that,
Speaker 3: or trailers for semis. I mean that gives you the perspective.
Speaker 3: It's the only way you can get any perspective on
Speaker 3: these things. As they're sitting out in the ocean with
Speaker 3: nothing next to them. You look at those things and
Speaker 3: think he's one of those is like a train car
Speaker 3: or a container or whatever it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you think, oh my god, that's a giant ship.
Speaker 3: Yeah. But remember so we were at a port in
Speaker 3: West Sacramento where they ship lots of rice in and
Speaker 3: out from around the world. Remember that guy telling us
Speaker 3: stories about those giant ships that come in and there
Speaker 3: aren't very many people on those ships, and how weird
Speaker 3: they all were. Yes, that story, I do one undred
Speaker 3: percent you've ever heard this, Katie before. But they're out
Speaker 3: there for months, and a lot of people that work
Speaker 3: on these ships are very strange people, because you're somebody
Speaker 3: that wants to be on a ship with no other
Speaker 3: human beings and like no entertainment or anything like that
Speaker 3: for months by yourself down in the dark of a ship.
Speaker 1: It's these guys, uh, don't even have visus, so they
Speaker 1: can't come off the ship, so they'll dock in the
Speaker 1: US or dock in some port. That sounds interesting. They're
Speaker 1: not allowed to get off the ship. They just stay
Speaker 1: in their dark ship.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was special kind of personality for that job.
Speaker 2: That was Frank, right, wasn't that his name? I don't know.
Speaker 2: That was super interesting though.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And whenever I see those ships, that's what I
Speaker 3: think of now. Got some really strange mole people living
Speaker 3: on that ship.
Speaker 2: Romanian mole people must not be allowed off.
Speaker 5: It comes out of my mouth every time we go
Speaker 5: on the boat with my family, because we'll go out
Speaker 5: of the estuary and we're down on the sea level
Speaker 5: looking up at those things, and I'm always like, how
Speaker 5: do those how do they float?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, there're you know, some terms are overused.
Speaker 1: They are quite literally bread taking to see from anywhere
Speaker 1: close to them.
Speaker 3: Well, they displaced more than the weight of the water
Speaker 3: technically is how they float. But that's hard to imagine
Speaker 3: that that even happened. Yeah they what Oh.
Speaker 2: Keep your shaft oiled? Yeah, am right, I'm right wow.
Speaker 2: And a clip from shaft. Yeah, that was just all
Speaker 2: sorts of enterpa. It was a multi media presentation you
Speaker 2: gave us there the Armstrong and Getty show, yea or
Speaker 2: Jack or Joe podcasts and our hot lakes full of
Speaker 2: texts before we get to Joe, why Joe hates Canadians.
Speaker 2: I do not hate Canadians. But that's what you said.
Speaker 3: No, I wasn't paying attention. I have to share this,
Speaker 3: says a texture. I took my six year old granddaughter
Speaker 3: to San Francisco. While we're walking to lunch, a group
Speaker 3: of men rode buying their bikes absolutely naked. My granddaughter said, Nana,
Speaker 3: who is running this place? Out of the mouths of babes?
Speaker 2: Yep. Oh wow.
Speaker 3: Sort of thing you will see in San Francisco, completely
Speaker 3: naked men on bicycles, and some people think that's wonderful
Speaker 3: for some reason, that that's like progress for some.
Speaker 2: Reason, I'll never understand. A bunch of twist tooids.
Speaker 3: Also mentioned at the end of the radio show on
Speaker 3: the twenty first that it was my birthday, and for
Speaker 3: some reason, I've never cared less about my birthday than now.
Speaker 3: And I'm not exactly sure if it's wisdom and maturity
Speaker 3: or depression and I've lost the ability to enjoy life.
Speaker 3: But we did get this text your birthday. Everyone has
Speaker 3: when you're not special.
Speaker 2: Geez wow, Well thank you for that. All right.
Speaker 1: That's that's a person I really pity. Yeah, imagine being
Speaker 1: that unhappy.
Speaker 2: I don't even know. I don't even know.
Speaker 3: When I see that sort of stuff on social media
Speaker 3: and you see a lot, it's always like, wow, first.
Speaker 5: Of all, Jack, happy birthday. Second of all, that person,
Speaker 5: wooh there you go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that has nothing to do with you, obviously, I
Speaker 1: know you know that Jack.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, boy, that's that's entirely about that person.
Speaker 3: When I come across that stuff on social media. Really
Speaker 3: honest to God. The thing I think is I need
Speaker 3: to make sure my kids don't end up like that,
Speaker 3: to where they're so miserable at the with the lir
Speaker 3: lives that they have to strike out at anything that
Speaker 3: might be pleasant or happy for someone to get through
Speaker 3: the day.
Speaker 2: I mean, Jesus, it's so awful.
Speaker 5: Or someone that that maybe isn't so miserable that they
Speaker 5: do that, but does.
Speaker 2: It for joy? Yeah? You know there are those.
Speaker 5: People that that, I mean, you see them all over
Speaker 5: the Internet that create these accounts just to.
Speaker 2: Troll people because they enjoy it.
Speaker 3: I've only known I've only I've only personally known two trolls,
Speaker 3: but they both had the same attitude. So I'm just
Speaker 3: assuming that that's kind of common among the troal community.
Speaker 3: They really get such enjoyment of there's somebody happy. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna try to take some of that. And it's just
Speaker 3: think it's so weird. I've never had that feeling. You know,
Speaker 3: somebody somebodysickness, somebody got somebody got a new car, and
Speaker 3: I say I heard they suck or just something like that.
Speaker 2: What what is that like?
Speaker 3: Why? Why?
Speaker 1: Well, as I've always said, people who are too dopey
Speaker 1: or lazy to build things. The only satisfaction they get
Speaker 1: is from breaking things. It's again, that's pathetic. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like the person who vandalizes the playground equipment. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's the same sort of thing.
Speaker 2: It's just awful.
Speaker 1: The only effect they will ever have on the world
Speaker 1: before they are dead is to break things and hurt people.
Speaker 2: So that's what they do. And and again it's it's
Speaker 2: just painfully pathetic. And what is a birthday dinner for you? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Well, I'm gonna go eat steak tonight and probably some
Speaker 3: sort of ill advised dessert'd be my guess. It's more
Speaker 3: for my kids than me. I don't know if I
Speaker 3: would even leave the house tonight if it w birthday.
Speaker 3: Bang Bang Oh boy, that sounds like a challenge stake
Speaker 3: five push ups. That's the that's the deal. A bang
Speaker 3: bang is back to back meals of completely different kinds.
Speaker 3: So what do I follow steak with pizza? Stop and
Speaker 3: get a pizza?
Speaker 2: Oh? Oh, steak is a dense, dense first blow. It's
Speaker 2: gonna leave a mark.
Speaker 1: Yeah wow, following up steak something completely different, nice uh
Speaker 1: Ramen restaurant or something that's a little hipster for you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe Italian though in the noodle the noodle realm.
Speaker 2: Well right, let's go raman adjacent i like the spaghetti
Speaker 2: and meatballs. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I did an accidental bang bang with my brother
Speaker 3: when he was in town when I had cancer. We
Speaker 3: ate a pizza not knowing my wife was making dinner,
Speaker 3: and then we got home and she had made a
Speaker 3: big dinner, like a big homemade dinner, because my brother
Speaker 3: was in town and so you can't, you know.
Speaker 2: So she colums the word.
Speaker 3: We had stuffed ourselves with pizza, but then brought it
Speaker 3: hard for that homemade dinner.
Speaker 2: Also, well, wait, a man up. Yeah, I commend you
Speaker 2: for that. It's just the polite thing to do.
Speaker 4: M