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Speaker 2: Radio App. I am back from Iceland, but I'm gone

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Speaker 2: to warn you now. My body clock Iceland seven hours

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Speaker 2: later than we are. I was going to better around

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Speaker 3: My surprise that you're here. I'm actually kudos to you

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Speaker 3: for not laking today.

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Speaker 2: I could have easily take him the day off, and

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Speaker 2: I'm so glad you didn't. And but I just didn't

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Speaker 2: know what I do all day today. See, I wouldn't

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Speaker 2: because I want to. I want to reset my body clock,

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Speaker 2: and I do a forced reset. I just do everything

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Speaker 2: I can to get myself and it works. If you

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Speaker 2: force yourself, you can change your body clock pretty quick.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Up in San Francisco. Daniel Lourie is the mayor, business guy, philanthropist.

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Speaker 2: People seem to be very happy he is. From what

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Speaker 2: I read, I hadn't been up there in a while,

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Speaker 2: slowly cleaning up San Francisco. Trump was threatening the National

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Speaker 2: Guard because there is still some problems. When I was

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Speaker 2: sending in the National Guard recently, and then he's pulled

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Speaker 2: back because he and Daniel Lourie have reached an agreement

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Speaker 2: and Laurie wants some time to try to make some

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Speaker 2: progress without Trump calling in the National Guard. Trump has

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Speaker 2: set up Okay, let's get Richie Greenberg on. He's the

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Speaker 2: journalist and commentator up in San Francisco, and he's kind

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Speaker 4: How are you, hey, Welcome back from Iceland. I am jealous.

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Speaker 1: Oh it's gorgeous. Absolutely go there if you can.

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Speaker 4: They say that you need one day for every hour

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I read. See, that's why I just

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Speaker 2: jump in and tough it a. That's right, Richie, just

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Speaker 2: say beginning, it seems the fighting between Trump and these

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Speaker 2: and Trump describes everything in apocalypse terms. And I noticed

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Speaker 2: even one of the judges today who's handling one of

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Speaker 2: it's not cool. How bad is it in Sanean Francisco?

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Speaker 2: Do you think the National Guard is necessary?

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Speaker 4: So you've got the two different world views on what's

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Speaker 4: happening here, and the reality is somewhere in between. So

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Speaker 4: yet the city has slowly been cleaned up, not necessarily

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Speaker 4: because of Daniel Lurry, but because the cycle seems to

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Speaker 4: have been running out anyway. There's so few shops open,

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Speaker 4: so they don't have those looting of them.

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Speaker 1: That is so sad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's nothing left, there's nothing left to steal. Everything's

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Speaker 4: That's that's that's the reality of this and very manipulative

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Speaker 4: of what the actual situation is. Yeah, but the thing

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Speaker 4: transnational narco terrorists, as they're being labeled now right. They

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Speaker 4: and there are thank goodness for the citizen journalists, these

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Speaker 2: Why why do these administrations in San Francisco not want

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Speaker 4: Yeah, John, that is the million dollar question because the

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Speaker 4: hall leaders they are pretending that that drug market and

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Speaker 4: all of the deaths. We're having two to three deaths

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Speaker 4: It's a humanitarian disaster. City hall leadership and their appointed

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Speaker 2: Okay, That's what's fascinating is they say the opposite, no

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Speaker 1: And I'm thinking, how so, what's in it for them?

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Speaker 2: What is in it for them to pretend that this

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Speaker 1: I don't get it.

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Speaker 2: Why would it be so terrible to say, yeah, this

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Speaker 2: Why would they do that? Why do they want it

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Speaker 4: You make, yeah, of course, And first of all, you know,

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Speaker 4: it'll make them look bad. It'll make city hall leadership,

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Speaker 4: They don't want Trump. They don't want the Feds to

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Speaker 4: then everyone would say, yeah, we told you, we told

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 4: Secondly, there has to be a monetary money involvedment here

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Speaker 2: And I got to believe, I got, yes, that's the

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Speaker 2: then that the people in government are getting big kickbacks

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Speaker 2: So they must be getting kickbacks.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, of course, either that or they're being threatened by

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Speaker 4: that Trump decided to listen to Lurie and say to

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Speaker 4: Daniel Lurie. And but there was a side, snide, little

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Speaker 4: bactory said. He posted it on True's social where he

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Speaker 4: do it, you know, the Feds. We can do it quickly,

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Speaker 4: much stronger, much faster, and we have different laws than

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Speaker 4: what you are what you have on the ground, mister Lourie.

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Speaker 4: But you know what you think you could do it,

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Speaker 4: Go ahead, we have it, you have a shot at it.

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Speaker 4: That's what he said. But we all know Trump, we

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Speaker 4: dealing internationally and globally with tariffs and like that. That

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Speaker 4: he essentially handed a rope to Mayor Lurie to hand

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Speaker 2: That's fascinating. Thank you for coming on, Richie Greenbergh.

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Speaker 4: Pleasure.

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Speaker 2: So he's good talking to you, Richie Greenberg. And he's

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: I don't think anybody understands the depth of the corruption

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Speaker 2: this coming up.

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Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobelts on demand from KFI A

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Speaker 1: Just had Richie Greenberg on up in San Francisco.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 2: The Mayor, Daniel Lurie is desperate to to to try

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Speaker 2: I don't know why you wouldn't want Trump in the

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Speaker 2: and you know this is this is an autocrat, this

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Speaker 2: that's great, overheated rhetoric. The truth is, it's some of

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Speaker 2: all the crazy, insane behavior. Like I said, one of

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Speaker 2: They're all living on the streets. They all they had

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Speaker 3: Did he have pillows?

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Speaker 1: He had pillows, blanket, Yeah, yes, he had.

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Speaker 2: He had everything you'd want except the roof. And there

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Speaker 2: was a lot of this. I don't know where they

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Speaker 2: stole the furniture from, but they're happy because they're zonked

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Speaker 2: out in whatever it is they're taking.

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Speaker 1: It's like, I remember, I'll never forget that day. It's like,

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Speaker 1: why would you want this? Okay?

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Speaker 2: So Richie Greenberg, who calls in with reports from San

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Speaker 2: Francisco occasionally, I think he hit on the two things.

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Speaker 2: This is why Number one, the local politicians are in

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Speaker 2: on it. They're getting a cut the homeless money. As

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Speaker 2: I told you is the whole system is corrupt. And

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Speaker 2: here in La we've had two real estate guys just

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Speaker 2: Tonight, the Dodgers take on the Toronto Blue Jays for

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Speaker 2: All the major issues that have been making helping to

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Speaker 1: Yes she is, Yes, she is.

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Speaker 2: Scott and Johnson give Harris Dawson a deadline November three.

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Speaker 1: Why does everybody have had hyphenated names?

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Speaker 2: they're they're they're they're ciphoning off some of the homeless money, right,

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Speaker 2: A story that came out was the fire hydrant story.

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Speaker 3: Wait, weren't some of those fire hydrants empty or broken?

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Speaker 1: Well what was the delay?

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Speaker 2: If they were still running the place, this might not

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Speaker 1: I mean, I've ever seen, because Crawford says if officials

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Speaker 2: Properly before the fire broke out and the winds became extreme,

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Speaker 1: Well, why do we even have a fire department.

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Speaker 2: Apparently, nothing they do and nothing they have would have

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Speaker 2: They now there's a story that federal investigators have obtained

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Speaker 1: Smoke was coming out of the ground.

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Speaker 2: A former arson investigator with the La County Sheriff's Department

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Speaker 2: It's used specifically to prevent rekindling fires. It's normal protocol.

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Speaker 2: They didn't do that either. I mean, there's talk about

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Speaker 2: Devra's going to have the news coming up in just

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Speaker 1: He charged not one, not two, not five.

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Speaker 2: Not ten, but thirteen county employees, thirteen employees from seven

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Speaker 2: and thirty seven thousand dollars in state unemployment benefits thirteen

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Speaker 2: county workers. They submitted fraudulent claims to the California Employment

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Speaker 2: Development Department. That was the agency that gave away thirty

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Speaker 2: plus billions of dollars to criminals, much of it not recovered,

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Speaker 2: and it turned out some of the criminals were in

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Speaker 2: the county government offices.

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Speaker 1: And here's Hakman and.

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Speaker 2: The La County Assistant Orditor Control of Robert Campbell, talking

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Speaker 2: about this recently.

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Speaker 6: What we're here today to talk about, sadly, is thirteen

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Speaker 6: different county employees who took advantage of COVID relief and

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Speaker 6: they did it in an illegal way. These thirteen people

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Speaker 6: here received over four hundred and thirty seven thousand dollars

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Speaker 6: between twenty twenty and twenty twenty three. They represent seven

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Speaker 6: different county agencies. They worked at full.

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Speaker 1: Time at the time.

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Speaker 6: They basically indicated that they were unemployed. It is shocking

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Speaker 6: at these county ployees who are receiving their county check

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Speaker 6: every single two weeks, are also telling eded at the

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Speaker 6: same time at their unemployed We will not tolerate this

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Speaker 6: type of illegal conduct by anyone, but especially by county

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Speaker 6: employees who are given that additional trust, particularly with the

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Speaker 6: county's money, public services of public trust.

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Speaker 7: As the district attorney correctly pointed out, the vast majority

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Speaker 7: of the county workforce works tirelessly to represent and assist

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Speaker 7: some of the most vulnerable people in our population, and

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Speaker 7: we all deserve and should expect a government that is

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Speaker 7: built on integrity.

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Speaker 6: I want to send a warning to all county employees

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Speaker 6: for that very small sub section of greedy fraudsters.

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Speaker 1: I will guarantee you we're coming after you.

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Speaker 2: Those two actually had a small orchestra behind them. That's

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Speaker 2: very nice. I think it was a social media video, yeah,

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Speaker 2: and posted. I guess so, I just uh, I get.

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Speaker 2: I've got the names of these people, the fraudsters, the fraudsters, yes,

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Speaker 2: uh allah Aga Agamalian thirty seven thousand dollars a la

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Speaker 2: stole according to the Feds.

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Speaker 1: According to Nathan Hockman, rather.

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Speaker 2: U Aurora Lopez Battista stole ninety three hundred according to

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Speaker 2: the DA Jessica Antonia Chandler forty eight nine hundred, Chandra

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Speaker 2: Comico Tisdale fifty seven thousand, Kelly Collins fifty six thousand.

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Speaker 2: Also Derek Anthony, Kalela, Donisha, Nicole Broomfeld, Ivan Jacob Mariskau

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Speaker 2: married Teresa Thomas, Raquel Martinez Alvarez, Shalita Violajamo, Tony Cheris.

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Speaker 1: Pittman, and Yini Aga Begian all criminals, says Nathan Hackman.

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Speaker 2: And the state had such a bad or, I should say,

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Speaker 2: a non existent system of tracking whether somebody filing for

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Speaker 2: unemployment benefits was really unemployed. They couldn't even catch these

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Speaker 2: thirteen people who worked in government. These people were working

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Speaker 2: for the county while stealing state money. I don't think

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Speaker 2: it would have been hard to scour that database. And

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Speaker 2: it took them up to five years to catch some

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Speaker 2: of these people. Apparently public and private employers in La

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Speaker 2: lost ten billion dollars just in this county to fraud

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Speaker 2: from COVID ten billion. There's a lot of people when

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Speaker 2: you call county offices and the answer to the phone,

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Speaker 2: they're criminals. A lot of people you go up to

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Speaker 2: the desk. How can I help you? Criminals? That's that's

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Speaker 2: a big number. And you know what, I'm sorry. If

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Speaker 2: you're caught doing this once, I wonder how many other times,

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Speaker 2: because apparently most of the time, everybody.

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Speaker 1: Gets away with it. That's why.

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Speaker 2: That's why although this wasn't his case, it wasn't a

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Speaker 2: federal case, it was a state case. This is Nathan Hawkman,

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Speaker 2: but Bill A. Sale is so important as the US

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Speaker 2: attorney because he's the one who's now uncovering all the

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Speaker 2: criminals involved in the homeless industry here in La See.

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Speaker 2: You get, you get, you get real tough investigators like

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Speaker 2: Assalian Hawkman. Life changes suddenly. There's dozens of people being

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Speaker 2: arraigned and charged. You know, a lot of these people

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Speaker 2: are going to go to jail. I mean it's like

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Speaker 2: a casino. All right, we come back Alex Stone from

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Speaker 2: ABC News and we're going to talk about Oh. Alaska

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Speaker 2: Airlines they they all their flights were grounded last night.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad.

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Speaker 3: I was gonna say a good thing. You weren't gone Alaska.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I know, it was it was that

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Speaker 1: was I was. I was up for about twenty four

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Speaker 1: hours yesterday.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, we scheduled this, but you don't

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Speaker 2: realize how tough it's going to be until you do it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and boy, they really don't serve food anymore on planes.

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Speaker 3: You have to bring your own.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. It was just you can just just

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Speaker 1: they don't care. You just die there in your seat.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I know, nobody cares about anything anymore.

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Speaker 1: No, nobody does.

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Speaker 3: No, we're on our own.

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Speaker 1: That's you know what I keep telling people that.

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Speaker 3: It's so true.

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Speaker 2: You're nobody. Nobody cares about your problems. Nobody's going to

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Speaker 2: help you.

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Speaker 3: Try being in a hospital.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean.

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Speaker 2: Seriously, no, I know, we'll dever. Marcus Live in the

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