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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Let's go. Are you

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Speaker 1: ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah? And so much for that.

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Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 1: It is Monday, October twelfth, twenty twenty, Season sixteen, episode

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Speaker 1: number forty two. Welcome to the latest edition of The Break.

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Speaker 1: I'm Derek Eagleton, Life and s WBC Mortgage Studios at

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Speaker 1: the Star. Guy Nick Amber and Dave with me, and

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Speaker 1: it's time for us to talk about this game yesterday,

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Speaker 1: Cowboys get the win thirty seven to thirty four. Typically

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Speaker 1: on a Monday, when we come in from a game,

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Speaker 1: I usually start the show having you guys go around

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Speaker 1: and talk about what for you was the story of

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Speaker 1: that today. I think we're very clear on what the

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Speaker 1: story of the game was yesterday. Aside from the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: getting a win, a much needed win, the story really

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Speaker 1: is Dak Prescott and he gets injured during the game.

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Speaker 1: A compound fracture and dislocation of his ankle. Nick qun'try

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Speaker 1: first give us an update on kind of what we

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Speaker 1: know as far as what happened post him actually being

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Speaker 1: injured and then having to go to the hospital. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, well you said right there he had to

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Speaker 1: go to the hospital. That's you know, right off. The

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Speaker 1: bat had the surgery last night, and you know, cowboys

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Speaker 1: have announced that the surgery went well, which you know,

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Speaker 1: I think it's important, you know, and you could say, well,

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Speaker 1: don't they all go well? And then no, they don't.

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Speaker 1: And it was ironic that Alex Smith played yesterday for Washington.

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Speaker 1: That's a good example that sometimes they don't always go

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Speaker 1: like you want. And but I just thing, you know,

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Speaker 1: it sounds like from what I've heard, is it's it

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Speaker 1: was a terrible situation and what it looked like. But

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Speaker 1: the broken ankle and a fracture, you know, the bones

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Speaker 1: can heal along with the surgery. It's done well, and

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Speaker 1: so it sounds like he you know, will be able

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Speaker 1: with this. You know, you knock on wood and hold

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Speaker 1: you know, you left the stadium. We left the stadium

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Speaker 1: last night, and it's like, did they win? You know?

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Speaker 1: I mean because it the loss was bigger than the win. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: I let them kind of go. Amber. Tell me what

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Speaker 1: was your mood when this this all happened? Could take

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Speaker 1: me back to that moment and what you're thinking as

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Speaker 1: as Dad goes down. Well, I think we all shared

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Speaker 1: the same feeling. Watching that horrible injury was terrible, especially

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Speaker 1: seeing his reaction. Just when you see a guy so

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Speaker 1: I can't even begin to imagine all the thoughts that

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Speaker 1: just very touching to see the support from everyone, the

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Speaker 1: whole team, his players, even Jason Garrett coming up to him.

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Speaker 1: It's it's just awful. But based on everything that Nick

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Speaker 1: And the hope is that this is something that he

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Speaker 1: just very, very disappointing to see a guy like him,

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Speaker 1: and also during a season that he was just doing

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Speaker 1: absolutely great. Yes, they weren't getting the wins that you

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Speaker 1: the season. Dave, what were your thoughts? Man, At the

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Speaker 1: I'm the guy that always says, you know, I don't

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Speaker 1: because you could make you wouldn't know, you never want

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Speaker 1: well no, Nick, Nick got to talk to the guys.

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Speaker 1: We can do both. Dave made me feel bad too,

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Speaker 1: But but they all were just I mean heartbroken, devastated, crushed.

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Speaker 1: man has gone through more adversity than most people go

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Speaker 1: So what does Dallas lose at this point, not having

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Speaker 1: don't we don't worry about criticism because that's the nature

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Speaker 1: of football. And you know, if if we come out

430
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Speaker 1: and win against the Giants, everybody will be praising us again.

431
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Speaker 1: And I was like, no, no, we won't, No, we won't.

432
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 1: Like the Giants are bad, you don't deserve praise for that, like,

433
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 1: and it just makes me wonder. I don't know, it

434
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 1: makes me wonder how focused they are at the start

435
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 1: of the games, because like, go go, look at go,

436
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 1: look at the rundown. The only time the Giants drove

437
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 1: the field for a touchdown was the first possession of

438
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 1: the game. And then Dak responds to that by making

439
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 1: a pretty terrible throw on the ball that got intercepted

440
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 1: and returned. The Giants got seventeen points off of turnovers,

441
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Speaker 1: and that dumb twelve minut on the field penalty seventeen

442
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:38,680
Speaker 1: of thirty four get literally gifted to them, you know,

443
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 1: because because the Cowboys fumbled on their own twenty four

444
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Speaker 1: as well the Andy Dalton fumbles, So seventeen points out

445
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Speaker 1: of thirty four. You know, you're probably feeling a little

446
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 1: bit better if the Giants scored twenty then if they

447
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 1: scored thirty four. And I don't get it. It's just

448
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,399
Speaker 1: and going all the way back to last year, it

449
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 1: seems like it takes them twenty minutes to kind of

450
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Speaker 1: shake the cobwebs off and realize that they're playing in

451
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Speaker 1: the NFL. And I remember last year it was all

452
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Speaker 1: about the three and ode start where they were just

453
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 1: kicking everybody's but that's ancient history at this point, so

454
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Speaker 1: if that's still in your head, I don't get it

455
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Speaker 1: at all, because the last year of results says that

456
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 1: you're a pretty mediocre team. So God, it would be

457
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 1: nice to see a better level of focus at the

458
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,679
Speaker 1: start of a game. And I don't understand why they

459
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Speaker 1: can't do it. You know I will, And I'm gonna

460
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Speaker 1: say this at the risk of not knowing what the

461
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 1: answer is, but I think I know the answer. I

462
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Speaker 1: think the answer is turnovers. And I'm going to go

463
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Speaker 1: back after this show. I don't know one of you

464
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Speaker 1: guys might know this off the top of your head.

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Speaker 1: It seems to me that most of the turnovers are

466
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Speaker 1: happening in the first half when they're getting into these holes.

467
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Speaker 1: Now that might be incorrect, but it just feels like that.

468
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back after the show and I'm going

469
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Speaker 1: to count those up because I think that's actually if

470
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Speaker 1: it's true, I think that's your simple answer is that

471
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Speaker 1: if they stop turning the freaking ball over, then they

472
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 1: won't get in this hole because you don't have the

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Speaker 1: defense that can just recover. Or when you give the

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Speaker 1: opposing team the ball at the fifty yard line. Yeah,

475
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 1: they're gonna give up a touchdown. That's just how it's

476
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Speaker 1: gonna go. Because this defense. We know, this defense is

477
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 1: not very good, but look at the you know, and

478
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Speaker 1: I'm laughing because when you're like, I don't know the answer,

479
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 1: but I think I know, which is just that's you

480
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Speaker 1: to a t. It's like, is there a reason why

481
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Speaker 1: they're turning the ball over here? But yeah, there is,

482
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Speaker 1: there is a reason why. I go back and look

483
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Speaker 1: at it. Why did why did the Dak fumble gains

484
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 1: Cleveland with Miles Garrett because offensive line came along? Why

485
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,679
Speaker 1: did he throw a past that to Zeke? You know

486
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,919
Speaker 1: that he that maybe Shack could have caught because the

487
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 1: offensive line was I mean, the offensive line is, but

488
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Speaker 1: you also have to count for Zeke putting the ball

489
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Speaker 1: in the ground offensive line or yeah right. But I'm

490
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Speaker 1: saying the turnover problem has been a problem that has

491
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Speaker 1: been bigger than just the offensive line, and it's been

492
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Speaker 1: a problem that that may go back to what Dave

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Speaker 1: is talking about. I think when you're having a lot

494
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Speaker 1: of turnovers, to me, that is a mental problem because

495
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Speaker 1: you're not paying enough attention when you have the ball

496
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Speaker 1: to take care of it and not do something careless

497
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 1: where an offender can come and take it from you. Right,

498
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Speaker 1: I think those are the things that right now I'm

499
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 1: saying it to me, seems like that's if I had

500
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Speaker 1: to pin all of these early holes that they get

501
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Speaker 1: in on at least on one thing, I would say

502
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,959
Speaker 1: it has to be the turnovers. All right, let's move

503
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 1: on to the next topic, secondary topic of the game.

504
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Speaker 1: The defense once again struggles. But the one thing that

505
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Speaker 1: you have to point to is that they're at the

506
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Speaker 1: end of the game. It is the time of the

507
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 1: game when you need the defense to make a stop.

508
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 1: Giants get the ball with two minutes left, they have

509
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Speaker 1: to drive the field in order to get a field

510
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Speaker 1: goal and they can win, which, by the way, against

511
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Speaker 1: this defense, I wasn't so sure that wasn't gonna happen.

512
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Speaker 1: Not only do they stop them, they stop them in

513
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Speaker 1: a minute and give their own offense to the ball

514
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 1: back with a minute left to go, they go down,

515
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Speaker 1: they score the game winning field goal. Talk about this defense,

516
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Speaker 1: and here's my real question, is this kind of the

517
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Speaker 1: ceiling of what we can expect from this defense. They're

518
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Speaker 1: not gonna be a great defense, but if they can

519
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Speaker 1: just make one two great stops in the game. That's

520
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 1: the ceiling of what they can be. Well, Jason and

521
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 1: Garrett I thought I had t shirts about four or

522
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: five years ago that ga TA. That's what they did.

523
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Speaker 1: I mean that that's what they did. They got after

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Speaker 1: their ass, I mean, and they hadn't been doing it

525
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,239
Speaker 1: all game. But Tyron Crawford, Alden Smith, I know I'm

526
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,399
Speaker 1: missing some Jalen. They were running all over the place.

527
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 1: And I asked the unlet after the game, did y'all

528
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Speaker 1: do something different? And he was like, no, they just

529
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 1: started to play. They just finally cranked up the intensity

530
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 1: and played was kind of pissed off about it, and

531
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Speaker 1: it was just like they just played, I know, I

532
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Speaker 1: mean they did. I mean they were I mean, I

533
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Speaker 1: thought Crawford, I don't know, he may not even have

534
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 1: a stat He was fun Neville Gallimore was throwing, you know,

535
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,880
Speaker 1: and I almost got a penalty get the sideline, which

536
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: would have been devastating. But they did a really nice

537
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 1: job of just just kind of wearing down that offensive line,

538
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Speaker 1: I think, and finally got to Daniel Jones. Ambers is

539
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 1: the best that we can expect to see from this defense.

540
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 1: Not I hope. I hope not. But watching the game,

541
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Speaker 1: you know, when they made certain good plays, I would

542
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,719
Speaker 1: get really excited. I'm like, okay, yes, finally, and then

543
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 1: I would have to stop myself and take it back.

544
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 1: I'm okay. Remember they are playing the Giants. This is

545
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Speaker 1: the Giants who they're playing again. So it's really it's

546
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Speaker 1: really hard to fully evaluate what this means for the

547
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 1: defense as far as those good moments that they did

548
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 1: have in the game. But at the same time, I'm

549
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 1: just I'm gonna take it. I'm gonna take it and

550
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: be glad that at least we saw somewhat of an

551
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:44,719
Speaker 1: improvement in certain occasions. I guess having Mike Nolan on

552
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: the field maybe had something to do with it and

553
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 1: helped with the whole communication thing, because we did get

554
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: to see, even though they allowed way too many points

555
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 1: against the New York Giants, even then, we still got

556
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: to see little moments of certain flashes of good things

557
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: that the defense was finally able to show. Dave, Dave,

558
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: you there, I think we lost him. This isn't good. Okay,

559
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 1: tell you what, tell you what. I will say this though,

560
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: and I think both of you, guys, Nick and Amber,

561
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: I think both of you guys painted the picture of

562
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: I hope not. I hope this isn't the best that

563
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 1: we can see. But to be quite honest with you,

564
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 1: I actually think if this is the best that we

565
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 1: can get and they are going to be this consistently,

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Speaker 1: I actually think this works with this team. I didn't

567
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Speaker 1: come into this season season thinking this defense was a

568
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Speaker 1: shutdown defense. What I came into this season thinking is

569
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Speaker 1: you have a high powered offense, and if you can

570
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Speaker 1: get a defense that can make critical stops, if you

571
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Speaker 1: get a defense that in those kind of moments can

572
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Speaker 1: get after the quarterback and actually make it rough on

573
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Speaker 1: the quarterback in those one or two series in the

574
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Speaker 1: game that make the difference, that's a winning formula for

575
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: this football team. That's what I kind of expected. So

576
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: if this is the best they could be and they

577
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: can be this consistently, I think the Cowboys are gonna

578
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 1: win far more games. And but the problem I was

579
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 1: gonna say the problem is like now, I mean, we

580
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 1: got to see a very small amount of Andy Dalton,

581
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Speaker 1: and we all agreed that we believe he's gonna be

582
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Speaker 1: a good quarterback and do everything that he can possibly

583
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 1: do on the field. But we still don't know how

584
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 1: that's gonna play out with the whole offense and if

585
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Speaker 1: the offense is still gonna be as productive. If they're not,

586
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 1: then what happens with the defense? Now it's a show

587
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 1: I do not want to watch. No, it's a great point,

588
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 1: and I do think that now now it all comes

589
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 1: down to can that offensive line give Andy Dalton the

590
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 1: time that he needs right because if they can do that,

591
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 1: then you still can do what you need to do offensively.

592
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: You didn't have to worry about that quite as much

593
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 1: with Dak because defenses did have to respect the fact

594
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Speaker 1: that he could break out a pocket. He could be gone, Dave.

595
00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: I'll go back to you. We got you back on

596
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Speaker 1: the line. Now, is this the best that we can

597
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: expect from this Cowboys defense? What we saw yesterday? I

598
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: alluded to this a few minutes ago, and like, if

599
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: you go look at the box score, you probably find

600
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: yourself pretty surprised by what you see. The Giants have

601
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Speaker 1: three hundred yards of offense. They averaged three point three

602
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: yards to carry Daniel Jones. Daniel Jones averaged like six

603
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: and a half Daniel Jones six and a half yards

604
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: per attempt, and like I said, special teams gifts the

605
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: Giants a field goal, Dak throws a pick six, and

606
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: Dalton gives them a possession inside the red zone. So

607
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 1: you look at the scoreboard and say, thirty four points

608
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: is terrible, and then you look at what the defense

609
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: actually did and it's kind of encouraging. Yeah. Having said that,

610
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Speaker 1: having said that, it's the New York Giants. It is

611
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 1: the New York Giants. I do not care. I don't

612
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Speaker 1: care do it. And for that matter, there is one

613
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: stat that really jumps off the page seven of thirteen

614
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 1: on third down, like couldn't could not get off the

615
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: field to save their lives on third down. Seemed like

616
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: they were constantly either letting Jones extend plays to find

617
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: guys or just losing guys or losing guys in coverage.

618
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Speaker 1: And if the Giants can do that to you, other

619
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 1: teams absolutely will so encouraging, sure, maybe, but but I

620
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 1: don't take it to be this sign of great improvement

621
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Speaker 1: or like a trend that makes me feel great. I

622
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: need to see it against not the worst offense in

623
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: the league before I get too excited about it. I'll

624
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 1: say this, David, if you're getting another thing, Dave. If

625
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: you're hold on, if you're gonna miss up that that

626
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: guy's name, do it with Daniel Jones. Don't do it

627
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: with any other Jones. Like mess up with the Giants quarterback.

628
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: That's my fault. That's what I don't think. I don't

629
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: getting it. I'm sorry. If you're gonna mess up with Jones,

630
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: if you're gonna mess up the word Jones, do it

631
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 1: when you're talking about the Giants quarterback and maybe not

632
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: one year seven bosses. That's what I was. Yeah, yeah,

633
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: for sure, Yeah yeah, yeah, go ahead, that failed go

634
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: um I was. I was gonna add. Don't forget. Don't

635
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: forget the fact that the Giants scored two touchdowns and

636
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: they were taking back because their offense got a penalty,

637
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: so he got taken away. But the defense, the Cowboys

638
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: defense had allowed two more touchdowns from the Giants. They

639
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 1: just ended up getting lucky. At the fact that the

640
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 1: Giants themselves can get one of those clean plays, I

641
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: will say, no, yeah, sorry, go ahead. Now, I'm just

642
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: saying one of those special team well the special teams,

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Speaker 1: maybe they get lucky, which we can talk about special teams.

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Speaker 1: They were awful yesterday. They continue to be a problem.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to hear any more about how they're

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Speaker 1: supposed to be so much better under John Fossil because

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Speaker 1: they've been a liability like four of the five weeks um.

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Speaker 1: But it's hard. I mean, I don't feel like the

649
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 1: defense got lucky on that on that offensive pass interference

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00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: that was an egregious pick like that that should have

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Speaker 1: been flatting, but that the play doesn't happle them too

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Speaker 1: bad for that? Yeah right, yeah, okay, So here's what's

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Speaker 1: gonna do with which that was a play? What it

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Speaker 1: were there was like the illegal shifting or yea, that

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Speaker 1: was special special fake field goal touchdown? Yeah, oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: and we and I think we need that's That's another

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Speaker 1: one of those topics that I'm gonna say for tomorrow

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Speaker 1: because we need a little time to dig into this

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Speaker 1: special teams because it's just not working for the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: right now. All right, We're gonna take our final back

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Speaker 1: when we come back. I do want to ask you

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Speaker 1: back to the final segment of the break Life and

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Speaker 1: real Quickly, our trusty producer was able to give us

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Speaker 1: some stats. In the break, I was talking about turnovers

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Speaker 1: in the first half. Check this out. Eight of the

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Speaker 1: eleven turnovers the Cowboys, if had this season, have happened

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Speaker 1: in the first half. So that's where your problem is.

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Speaker 1: Stop turning the ball over. Maybe you don't dig a hole,

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Speaker 1: maybe you don't have to dig out of it, and

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Speaker 1: maybe those become points at the end of the game

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Speaker 1: that create a deficit where you actually can win a

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Speaker 1: game by more than three points. All right, Nick, Yes,

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Speaker 1: real quickly. You mentioned in the break to me that

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Speaker 1: you saw something yesterday that was more personal to you

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Speaker 1: that you just wanted to kind of out there. I

724
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Speaker 1: know we're not gonna have time for moments that matter,

725
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Speaker 1: and we usually when you do that you're talking about

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Speaker 1: the game, but this moment mattered to me. It's it's

727
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: not really about football. But you know, maybe it's ironic

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Speaker 1: or not, but the only two coaches that Dak Prescott's

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00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: ever had and in the pro level are standing over

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Speaker 1: him as he's in the worst moment of his career.

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Speaker 1: And Jason Garrett has always said he loves the book

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Speaker 1: by Woody Hayes, former Ohio State coach, and there's a

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Speaker 1: big sign up there and that say you win with people.

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Speaker 1: You don't you know, you could excess and os all

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Speaker 1: you want, but you win with people and how you

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Speaker 1: treat people. And with Jason Garrett have gone across the

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Speaker 1: field if it was on the other side of the field,

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Speaker 1: and probably not, it happened right there, but for him

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Speaker 1: to be out there and standing out there, you know

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Speaker 1: right there that that's my quarterback. Yeah, I'm wearing the

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Speaker 1: blue and all that. And I was a little mad

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Speaker 1: at Jason Garrett for finally running a damn fleeflicker after

743
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Speaker 1: ten years, but we but him standing on the field

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00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: right there, even just a tap with Mike McCarthy that

745
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: to me showed this guy he might not have what

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Speaker 1: you want as the head coach and all that he's

747
00:38:56,440 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 1: got class and you can win with people. And I

748
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 1: just thought that was a great moment, and that was

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Speaker 1: touching to me for Jason Garrett to kind of be

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Speaker 1: right there and just he didn't even say a whole lot,

751
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Speaker 1: but he was like he was there. That meant up

752
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: to me. Maybe I'm overthinking it, but I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was a good I mean, quite frankly,

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00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 1: that whole sequence was just really touching. I mean, just

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Speaker 1: the whole thing. I know, I talked to my wife

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Speaker 1: and she was just bawling at the house, as I'm

757
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 1: sure a lot of people were. She had a tear

758
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Speaker 1: just watching that whole scene because it just it was sad.

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00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: It was sad. You don't like to see that. And

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00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: this game is a very very violent game. We know that,

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00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: but it still doesn't make it any easier when you

762
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Speaker 1: have to watch that, especially with a guy you really like.

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Speaker 1: All Right, Um, the question going to go ahead, Dave.

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Speaker 1: I just I'm gonna remember for a long time, it

765
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:47,399
Speaker 1: was almost like everybody's holding their breath trying to see

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Speaker 1: what's happening. There were eighteen people surrounding Dak for for

767
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 1: what felt like forever. And then when when everybody sort

768
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:58,919
Speaker 1: of realized that he was about to be carted off,

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Speaker 1: seventy five percent of the Cowboys sideline just started running

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Speaker 1: over there, you know, the defensive guys who were doing

771
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Speaker 1: their meetings and their adjustments and not worried about what's

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Speaker 1: going on on the field, just sprinting across the field

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Speaker 1: to get there, to be able to, you know, be

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Speaker 1: in front of Dak before he went away. I just

775
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: think it said a lot by what he means to

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Speaker 1: that locker room that almost every single guy on the

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Speaker 1: team wanted to be able to, you know, high five

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Speaker 1: him or whatever before he was gone. It was it

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00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 1: was really moving. And not only that, but Nick, you

780
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Speaker 1: mentioned to me before we got on the show, there

781
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Speaker 1: was an article we put up cow Buzz that we

782
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,320
Speaker 1: put up where it was it had all the different

783
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Speaker 1: tweets that were happening out there from all kinds of

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Speaker 1: people in sports, out of sports, in the NFL, out

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Speaker 1: of the NFL. I think it just showed, quite frankly,

786
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Speaker 1: the amount of respect that Dak Prescott has around this

787
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Speaker 1: league and just around this country. There were a lot

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Speaker 1: of people that were tweeting their support for him and

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Speaker 1: how much they felt for him in that moment, Like

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Speaker 1: that matters. I think there's no better one than the

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Speaker 1: Eagles fan with the with the light lime green hair.

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Speaker 1: Have you seen that? Yeah, that's that's he's about, I

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00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 1: don't know, eight nine maybe, and he's got his Carson

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00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 1: wins Jersey, I think, and he's talking about that, and

795
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 1: it's it's it's that's that's like the best thing that

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Speaker 1: I've seen today, I think is from that, because that's

797
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 1: that's what sports is. Yep. And I think that you know,

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Speaker 1: there are a lot of you know, you root for teams,

799
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Speaker 1: you root against teams, but the fact matter is the

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00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 1: good guys you have a certain amount of respect for them,

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Speaker 1: whether they beat your team or you beat them or

802
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: they're on your rival team, if you respect them, you

803
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 1: respect them, and and that I think goes beyond sports. Right. Um,

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Speaker 1: So here was the question I was posing you guys

805
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,839
Speaker 1: before we went to the break. Cowboys now have two

806
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: wins on the season. Both of those wins that come

807
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Speaker 1: against teams that still have not gotten to win through

808
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Speaker 1: four games. Um, and they are reeling. They are gonna

809
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: be among you. It looks as though they're gonna be

810
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: among the very worst teams in the NFL. Not only

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Speaker 1: did the Cowboys have to beat them, the cow beat

812
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 1: both of them with walk off field goals in order

813
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Speaker 1: to win, like literally at the buzzer, they have they

814
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: win those two games. That being said, what if anything

815
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: is that say about this Dallas Cowboys team. Let's start

816
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 1: with you Amber. Why did he go with me? I

817
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 1: mean everyone is just still trying to figure out what

818
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys can be. Every week, me personally, every

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Speaker 1: week I go and watch the game, see certain things

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Speaker 1: that I'm like, Okay, we can build off of this,

821
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Speaker 1: this is good, we can take this on. Especially on

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Speaker 1: the offense side of the vall. You see a lot

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Speaker 1: of potential, a lot of great things, especially in that

824
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Speaker 1: second half of the game. You're like, Okay, we just

825
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: need to tweak little things here and there and then

826
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Speaker 1: everything's gonna play out fine. At the same time, you

827
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Speaker 1: see things that you're like, are you freaking kidding me?

828
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Speaker 1: Why is this still happening in week four? Week five?

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Speaker 1: You've got to be kidding me. So it's just a

830
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: mixture of both emotions. My feelings constantly changed because, like

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Speaker 1: I said, I see certain potential, but At the same time,

832
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: I see a lot of things that that just need

833
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 1: to be corrected, and I do think it can be corrected.

834
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Speaker 1: But the problem is how long is it going to

835
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:25,359
Speaker 1: take for the Cowboys coaching staff to be able to

836
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Speaker 1: correct those issues aside from the injuries obviously affecting the

837
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Speaker 1: Cowboys and even the whole league as a whole. So

838
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 1: to me, it's just a matter of timing and it's

839
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:42,399
Speaker 1: just difficult to do in the mid of the season. Dave,

840
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Speaker 1: what do you think this says about this team? Let

841
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Speaker 1: me be Let me be mister Sunshine for a sec

842
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 1: because I never do that. Who have they lost to?

843
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 1: Who are the teams that they've lost to? Yeah, they

844
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 1: went down to the final drive against the final drive

845
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Speaker 1: against the Forum one Rams, who are off to an

846
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 1: amazing start, staged a furious comeback against Cleveland. Didn't deserve

847
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 1: to win that game, but they managed to at least

848
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 1: put some drama in the end. And then they go

849
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 1: down to the wire against the only five and no

850
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Speaker 1: team in the league. So I guess my answer is,

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Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, your record is what it said.

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Speaker 1: You know you are what your record says you are.

853
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Speaker 1: And two, nobody should be impressed by either of these wins.

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Speaker 1: But I also think that they're talented enough to hang

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Speaker 1: in there against almost anybody, provided that they can stop

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Speaker 1: doing stupid stuff. The big thing for me it just

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Speaker 1: it changes so drastically without Dak in my opinion, And

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Speaker 1: that's not a knock on Dalton, but I've got to

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Speaker 1: see him go out there and play at a high level.

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Speaker 1: So you know, this is a This is an average

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Speaker 1: to above average team that plays uncharacteristically sloppy, stupid football.

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Speaker 1: If they can stop doing that, I think they could win,

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Speaker 1: you know, win the division, let's put it that way.

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Speaker 1: But there's so much evidence that says that they can't

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Speaker 1: stop doing that that maybe that we should temper our

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Speaker 1: optimism a little bit. Nick, What's what's the actual question?

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Speaker 1: What does the fact that they've only won two winless

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Speaker 1: teams ye say about this team? If anything? I think

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Speaker 1: Dave makes a great point there, just because it's like,

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Speaker 1: if you could say, well, they barely beat these teams, well,

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Speaker 1: nobody cares that they barely lost either to all four

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Speaker 1: and one teams, right, everybody that they've lost to is

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Speaker 1: four and one. I was telling you in the break

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Speaker 1: that They've the two minute warning of every game this year.

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Speaker 1: They've been down every single game, and I think I

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Speaker 1: got to go back and look, I think it's at

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Speaker 1: every two minute warning first half as well. They've they've

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Speaker 1: been trailing, so at the end of the game, end

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Speaker 1: of the half, you know they haven't had leads. Um,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't it doesn't really matter. I mean, it's taken

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Speaker 1: a miracle kick extra point, I mean on site kick

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Speaker 1: to beat the Falcons. And you know, yesterday was kind

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Speaker 1: of a weird game all from starting to finish. But

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Speaker 1: you know, I think the better team won. But I

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Speaker 1: don't think they were better than Seattle and I don't

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Speaker 1: think they were better than the Rams. I said that

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Speaker 1: at the time, and they weren't better than Cleveland. So Dave, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you are what you are. I mean, they were close

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Speaker 1: to those teams, not good enough to win and just

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Speaker 1: good enough to win against those bad teams. All Right,

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Speaker 1: we will tomorrow get more into this. We still do.

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Speaker 1: We might go through some of those moments that mattered

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Speaker 1: in this game. We definitely got some player performances we

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Speaker 1: gotta go through because there were some players that I

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Speaker 1: think had some really, really great efforts yesterday against the Giants.

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Speaker 1: We'll do all that tomorrow. Join us till then for

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Speaker 1: Nick Eatman, Dave Hellman, Amber Garcia. I am Derek Hilton.

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