1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: The San Antonio District judge resigns after a federal corruption probe. 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 2: A former San Antonio, Texas judge goes to federal prison 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 2: after pleading guilty to accepting bribes in exchange for rigging 4 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:18,119 Speaker 2: cases in his court. Angus McGuinty committed the ultimate judicial sin. 5 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 2: Why did you do it? 6 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: I did it because I was foolish. 7 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 2: Listen to how to Bribe a Judge on Revolver podcast 8 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 2: dot com, Apple podcast, Stitcher, or wherever you get your podcasts. 9 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 3: The John Annick and Kenny Florian Podcast John Annick and 10 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 3: Kenny Florian. 11 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 4: I fucking love him. 12 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 2: I can't get enough of him. 13 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 5: There are a couple of absolutely self involved bullshit artists. 14 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 3: Here are your hosts, John Annick and Kenny Florian. 15 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:04,039 Speaker 6: Good Labor Day too, you Monday September seven, twenty twenty, 16 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 6: Episode two sixty six of the Anconmplorian Podcast. Some would 17 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 6: argue Ken Flow, neither you nor I has any Boston 18 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 6: twang whatsoever. I think maybe when I drink it comes 19 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 6: out a little bit certain words. For sure, it's had 20 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 6: for me to say karate haughty on broadcast without dipping 21 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 6: in there. But where I don't know if it's the 22 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 6: way we grew up or where we grew up. You know, 23 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 6: my dad was from New York. But I don't hear 24 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 6: any accent when you talk, that's for sure. Not really. 25 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 6: Every once in a while when I go to have 26 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 6: it and I pack my cat like oh by the 27 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 6: uh beist in. 28 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 7: No, you know, we don't really have it where we 29 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 7: didn't grow up in like in the heart of Boston. 30 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 7: You know, my older siblings have it way more because 31 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 7: they were kind of more closer to the city or 32 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 7: what have you. But yeah, I guess, I guess the 33 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 7: good thing people have a very it's either they love 34 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 7: it or. 35 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 6: They hate it. 36 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 7: Yeah, there's no one between with the Boston next right, No, 37 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 7: you're absolutely right. 38 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 6: You either lean fully into it or it she fucking crazy. 39 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 6: I guess you're right. When I was working at Legal 40 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 6: Seafoods in Chestnut Hill, Massachusetts there on Commonwealth for that place, well, 41 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 6: and I was living closer to this city and working 42 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 6: with a lot of people. Who's coming out. But eventually 43 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:14,679 Speaker 6: we'll do it, do an episode in the in the 44 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 6: Boston Act, all right, coming up today, we will recap 45 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 6: overream versus Sakai. How about the realm. I mean, my 46 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 6: lord forty years of age. So we'll talk about that show. 47 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 6: Longo's coming up in five minutes. He was not available 48 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,839 Speaker 6: right at one pm Eastern time, so he did get 49 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 6: the show open invitation for back to back weeks, but 50 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 6: he respectfully declined. And then also predictions because we have 51 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 6: another UFC a lot event coming up this weekend, Michelle 52 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 6: Waterson and Angela Hill getting the main event showcase. But 53 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 6: Ken Ken sorry, doctor Florian, I don't call him that often. 54 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 6: Let us get into headlines and Alistair Overeim's performance against 55 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 6: Augusto Sakai five round tko, Ken Flow, you had him 56 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 6: winning by round four TKO, so pretty close there on 57 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 6: the prediction, but you got the method correct. And I 58 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 6: am in awe of this man's body of work, but 59 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 6: in all of this performance as well, I think he 60 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 6: was tested early on in this fight, and this very 61 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 6: well may be the best version of Alistair. I mean, 62 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 6: he might not be as athletic or as fast as 63 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 6: he once was, but I think this is the best version. 64 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 6: And this is a huge win in a career full 65 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 6: of them. 66 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, listen, I sit here inspired. It's amazing what Alistair 67 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:28,519 Speaker 7: overhim has accomplished in his career. Of course, the UFC 68 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 7: Championship is the one belt that has eluded him. But 69 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 7: I was just blown away by his ability to adapt. 70 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 7: You could really see the veteran come out of him 71 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 7: as each round came out. 72 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 6: He was adjusting, he was playing smart, and I. 73 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 7: Think, you know, aside from the Rosen Strike fight and 74 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 7: maybe the Curtis Blades fight where he got finished in 75 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 7: the round three, I think over him is most susceptible 76 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 7: to be taken out early in a fight. He usually 77 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 7: comes out a little bit hesitant, not sure, and I 78 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 7: think you typically see that from the more intelligent fighters. 79 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 7: They might be a little bit more vulnerable early on 80 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 7: because they are kind of computing and analyzing things and 81 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 7: trying to see what their opponent is doing out there. 82 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 7: It was particularly difficult when you get a guy in 83 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 7: Augusta Sakai, who is a sneaky, good athlete who is fast, 84 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 7: who kept blitzing him repeatedly and was catching him here 85 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 7: and there. But the adjustment that over him made to 86 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 7: avoid those shots, defensively, clinch him up, utilize those knees, 87 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 7: and eventually hit those takedowns really was the difference that 88 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,359 Speaker 7: finish was as brutal a finish as you will see. 89 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 6: Dude. 90 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 7: The first elbow was brutal, the second one was really bad. 91 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 7: The third one would decapitate anyone under two hundred and 92 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 7: five pounds. I mean it would chop your damn head off. 93 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 7: The cut was brutal, That elbow was nasty. I mean 94 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 7: Sakai's head hit that canvas so damn hard over him 95 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 7: is a savage. The fact that he still has that 96 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 7: kind of fight and brutal and him at forty years old, 97 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 7: after how many years of fighting, you know, from Japan 98 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:06,799 Speaker 7: to the United States. 99 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 6: So I'm just blown away, John, Yeah, you were at 100 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 6: Boston College when he was making his pro debut, crazy 101 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 6: and here he is still going strong. He'll be forty 102 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 6: one in May, but he does still have I think 103 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 6: three fights left on his contract, and they're going to 104 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 6: be big fights at least the next one. You're right 105 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,919 Speaker 6: about Sakai. He is a sneaky good athlete, and I 106 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 6: do think his stock goes up in some ways with 107 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 6: this performance. Doesn't have a ton of power. I mean, 108 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 6: he's got some knockouts, but he has a lot of 109 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 6: close fights, a lot of split decision wins, but wasn't 110 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 6: able to put over him away. I really commend that 111 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 6: high guard of Alistair overrem because he just knows how 112 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 6: to cover up. And if you looked at the discrepancy 113 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 6: when it came to the numbers, not just the significant 114 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 6: strike accuracy of Alstair Overreey, but the striking defense, that 115 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 6: was a huge discrepancy between these two athletes. And I 116 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 6: think Cody Donovan and this Team Elevation Fight team just 117 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 6: deserves a lot of credit. You know, to get a 118 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 6: guy like over Eim granted he's never had the reputation 119 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 6: of being a guy who isn't coachable, but to be 120 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 6: able to extract these type of performances out of him 121 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 6: at this stage of his career, to me, this is 122 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 6: a team effort for sure. 123 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 7: I agree, I agree, but again, you don't get this 124 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 7: far without a champion style mindset. Overheam still talks about 125 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 7: trying to get this belt, so he's still hungry. And 126 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 7: absolutely the guys at Team Elevation have done a phenomenal job. 127 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 7: I think, you know, that little added wrinkle of offensive 128 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 7: wrestling is something that Overham, you know, had some decent takedowns, 129 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 7: but didn't have traditional wrestling style takedowns in the form 130 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 7: of singles and doubles like he does now in my opinion, 131 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 7: so those were cleaner. His grounded pound was just freaking brutal, man. 132 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 7: Some of the best ground and pound I've seen in 133 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 7: a very, very long time. 134 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 6: And you know me, I'm a huge fan of those elbows. Yeah, yeah, no, 135 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 6: pad on that elbow, that's for sure. You're right about 136 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 6: the championship hunger too. I know a lot of handicappers 137 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 6: when they're assessing a matchup, the first thing they look 138 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 6: at is hung desire. Where is this fighter in his 139 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 6: career relative to the other end. And not to say 140 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 6: that a fight like Colby Covington versus Tyron Woodley can 141 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 6: be simplified in that way necessarily, but Colby Covington would 142 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 6: appear to be closer to his fighting prime right now, 143 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 6: and I think the betting line reflects that. You know, 144 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 6: t Wood's my guy, Ben to Ferguson Missouri. But I 145 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 6: think a lot of people looking at that fight feel 146 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 6: like maybe Colby has more championship desire. I get assure 147 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 6: you it's still there for Tea Wood and he wants 148 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 6: to beat Colby. But I do think It's a very 149 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 6: interesting thing to bring up when it comes to Alastair 150 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 6: Overing because he has not lost that whatsoever, and I 151 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 6: think when he does, he'll probably step away. I also 152 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 6: thought it was interesting that he said he was going 153 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 6: to finish Sakai inside of ten minutes, because I think 154 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 6: that was absolutely gamesmanship because he was going to try 155 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 6: to extend this fight finish him in the latter rounds. 156 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 6: He gets stronger as the fight goes on. I think 157 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 6: he's rhythmic, he feels the fight, and a brilliant performance. 158 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 6: So what do you want to see next? I mean 159 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 6: a lot of people talking about a rematch with Jarzenio Rosenstrike. 160 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 6: It's not going to be a title fight and the 161 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 6: calendar isn't ideal because Stepe is probably going to take 162 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 6: a healthy amount of time off anything. Uh peak your 163 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 6: interest more than others in terms of a next opponent 164 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 6: for for the ream, I think. 165 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 7: That rosen Strike fight definitely favors him. I know that 166 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 7: he would like to get that one back. He made 167 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 7: one little mistake there at the very end, and I 168 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 7: think it's it's obviously a fight that he can win, 169 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 7: and with a win over someone like a Rosen Strike. 170 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 7: He kind of puts himself back into contention. I know 171 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 7: he's been there before, but we all know what happened 172 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 7: in that fight against steep A. It would be great 173 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 7: to see Overhims stick around and get a rematch and 174 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 7: just one more shot at that belt. But I like 175 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 7: that idea of fighting rosen Strike. I think it makes 176 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 7: a lot of sense. Nobody seems to want that. Francis 177 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 7: and Ghana cat right now, we're good on that good 178 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 7: hard pass, but rosen Strike has regained momentum, so I 179 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 7: think that very well could be a UFC main event 180 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 7: at some point, maybe in December. 181 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 6: All right, Ray Longo coming up in about sixty seconds. 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Do you have 259 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 6: a Do you have a hair tie in your hair today? 260 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 5: Uh? 261 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 9: No, definitely no man bund. You will correct one your 262 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 9: first assumption. Know, so you're one for two, which is 263 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 9: pretty good. 264 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 6: So uh so who are you just working with? And 265 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 6: thank you for fitting us in? 266 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 9: There After, I had uh my good friend doctor Raymond 267 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 9: Peso and uh bab O'Neill, two really good good guys, 268 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 9: close friends, great time. 269 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 6: If we ever get through this COVID nineteen stuff, I'm 270 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 6: gonna come and take a private with you, Cody on 271 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 6: my film the goddamn Thing and will embarrass me in 272 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 6: front of the whole world. 273 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 9: Let me tell you I would love today. I believe 274 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 9: in straps and gloves. I don't even move around where you. 275 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 4: Let you beat the crap out of me. I was. 276 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 6: What I really would love to do is bring my 277 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,079 Speaker 6: twin brother and let us beat the funk out of 278 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 6: each other. 279 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 9: You know, many times back in the day, I would 280 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 9: get guys, uh, you know when when the uh, when 281 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 9: that whole like Wolf of Wall Street thing was going on, 282 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 9: Guys from those firms would come in, Oh, we want 283 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 9: to just rent the place because this guy wants to 284 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 9: you know, fight. This guy was crazy and more than 285 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 9: once or twice, but that was a big deal, like 286 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 9: they wanted to settle grudge matches. And uh, it's amazing, 287 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 9: it's crazy, good stuff. 288 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 6: My wheels are really spinning now. They are not even 289 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 6: head shots necessarily, but certainly body shots and kicking and 290 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 6: all that stuff. And find it out. Don't need a 291 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 6: hair tie if you have any. 292 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 4: Extras base what hair tie? 293 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 6: We talked about my twin brother's hair down to his shoulders, 294 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 6: So I got can I can I be the referee? 295 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 7: And like all nonsense, Kenny Floorian up there. 296 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 10: Can we do? 297 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 6: Yeah? 298 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 9: Anything goes ALONGO wide mma anything. We could have two 299 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 9: chickens fighting each other. 300 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 6: So Kenvil and I were just talking about alistair overream 301 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 6: and I think a lot of us are marveling at 302 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 6: his evolution and his performance and just his willingness to 303 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 6: uh to maybe adapt to the game and the matchup 304 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 6: in front of him. What did you think of Overream 305 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 6: turning backo Gusto Sakai a couple days ago. 306 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 9: Man, I'll tell you what, I'm always impressed with the 307 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 9: guys that have been around for twenty years that, uh, 308 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 9: you know, getting a little older when they can, uh, 309 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 9: they can get a win like that. Look he was 310 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 9: you know, it was just experience versus inexperience. To me, 311 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 9: he was relaxed, you know. He even when he was 312 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 9: shelling up, I don't think he was ever in any danger. 313 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 4: And Ben hats off to Ovary. 314 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 11: Man. 315 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 9: He found like a you know, a second wind, and 316 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 9: he's definitely got the power and the technical skills to 317 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 9: get anybody out of there at any given point in time. 318 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 9: And uh, I thought it was a great fight for Overim. 319 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 7: And he's still a nasty prick. Ray, He's still got 320 00:14:59,080 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 7: that fighter in him. 321 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 6: You mean at the end of that. 322 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 9: Oh, let me tell you those elbows were no joke, 323 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 9: no joe. He generated a lot of power with those 324 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 9: ken flow. 325 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 6: What do you make about the shelling up as Ray 326 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 6: was talking about the striking defense, because I do think, 327 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 6: as I said earlier, he does a masterful job minimizing damage. 328 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 6: But sometimes in a heavyweight fight, that body language makes 329 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 6: you think that a heavyweight is getting teed up, and 330 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 6: I agree with Ray that wasn't at all the case. 331 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely, And a lot of times you'll see guys 332 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 7: kind of shell up here and then kind of he 333 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 7: was either backing up in a way or moving latterly, 334 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 7: or he'd go into the clinch, so he'd wait for 335 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 7: a big shot and because he's in nice and tight 336 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 7: on that shell, he'd wrap up the arms or get 337 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 7: to a tie clinch. So basically muy Thai one oh 338 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 7: one really from Alistair over him and he was able 339 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 7: to kind of diffuse a lot of those shots from Sakai. 340 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 6: So Ray, we also had a big win for Ovin 341 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 6: Saint Prue over Alonzo Menifield. And when you look at 342 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 6: what Ovin Saint Prue has done, thirteen UFC wins, eleven finishes, 343 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 6: and he just I went through two fight weeks with 344 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 6: this guy over the last three weeks, and both times, 345 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 6: even dealing with the COVID nineteen prior in late August, 346 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 6: he carried himself with such a confidence that couldn't believe 347 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 6: he was an underdog, especially in this matchup. And I 348 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 6: don't know if it was the experience or if he's 349 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 6: just a better fighter overall, but I thought this was 350 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 6: was maybe his best performance. What'd you think of osp. 351 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 9: Listen, I looks I'm going this whole night was experience 352 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 9: versus inexperience. So guy's coming up even telling her versus 353 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 9: you know, when he choked that guy out, that was 354 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 9: experience versus inexperience. 355 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 4: These are guys that have been around for a long time. 356 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 9: Look at the guys osp is fort seriously, look at 357 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 9: the competition. That's a big step of for meta field. 358 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 4: It really was. But he made that look easy. 359 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 9: He kept the range, kept him away with the front takes, 360 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 9: was picking his shots. The guy never really got near him. 361 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 9: Total confidence, But I think that confidence comes with experience, 362 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 9: and that experience, you know, I think just paid dividends 363 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 9: for him. Like there was like you're facing John Jones 364 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 9: and then you go down to a fight like that, 365 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 9: you're not You're not rattled. And I think even with 366 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,360 Speaker 9: the Overreen fight when he was covering up, he's been 367 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 9: in there with so many people. 368 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 4: You don't think he knows when. 369 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 9: He's in danger or he's not in danger and he's 370 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 9: just rolling with that stuff. So what you think looks 371 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 9: crazy or some people like he's sitting, No, he knows it. 372 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 9: He's just waiting for his opportunity, waiting for the guy 373 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 9: to burn out. He's not feeling anything. He doesn't have 374 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 9: to get frantic, and that's what experience gives you. And 375 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 9: I think we saw that in a bunch of fights, 376 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 9: but to both guys and especially osp because he made 377 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 9: it look easy. 378 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 4: I don't even think he got hit much at all. 379 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 9: Just looked like a huge guy in there that was 380 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,360 Speaker 9: doing whatever he wanted to do, having fun. Like you say, 381 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 9: he just you know, he was a gentleman, you said 382 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 9: the couple of weeks you were with him, and he's 383 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 9: just I thought he made it look easy, and uh, like, 384 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 9: you're right, what was Why would they put him as 385 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 9: an underdog they after all the competition, That guy's faith 386 00:17:58,880 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 9: is crazy. 387 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 6: Vince is the man and ken Flay also want to 388 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 6: hear what you have to say about Alonzo Menifield because 389 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 6: I think cardiovascularly he did a ton of work to 390 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 6: try to right some wrongs, and you know, he talked 391 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 6: a lot about sort of the mindset the lungs grit. 392 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 6: You know, it seemed like he was in the shape 393 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 6: of his life. But obviously he didn't do much before 394 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 6: he got knocked out. But Vince Man, I think he's 395 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 6: he's gonna be the first big guy who's gonna fight 396 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 6: like thirty times in the UFC. Kenny, He's only getting better. 397 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 6: Was largely untouched in this fight. What'd you think of 398 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 6: Saint Prue? 399 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 7: I thought Saint Prue did a great job of just 400 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 7: picking the right strikes at the right time, and I 401 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 7: think Ray summed it up beautifully. It really was the difference, 402 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 7: you know, the experience was the difference. I mean, if 403 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 7: you look at Menifield on a technical level, he's superior 404 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 7: to OSP. He throws things, you know, way more by 405 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 7: the book than say OSP does even positionally, if you 406 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 7: look at the final blow, OSP was kind of very 407 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 7: upright and very susceptible to an overhand shot. 408 00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 6: He just got there first. 409 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 7: He knew what Menafield was gonna throw, and maybe he 410 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 7: was out of position a little bit, but he landed 411 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 7: as he was coming forward through the right shot at 412 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 7: the right time and pulled it off. Man Like Ray said, 413 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 7: when you're facing a high level competition like that. 414 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 6: Day in and day out, you're prepared for big fights. 415 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 7: You're gonna find a way to win against a guy 416 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,679 Speaker 7: like Menfield who perhaps doesn't have that same kind of experience. 417 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 7: Skills are one thing. What you can do in the 418 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 7: gym is it is one thing. What you can do 419 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 7: on fight night is something completely different. OSP pulled it off. 420 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 7: I underestimated him. He still has it, he's still hungry 421 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 7: and uh good to see him get the win. 422 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 4: Yeah. 423 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 9: And the other thing is I think from a matchmaker 424 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 9: standpoint two they have they gave these guys the opportunity. 425 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 4: This was a big step up. 426 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,239 Speaker 9: But if they could have passed that test, then I 427 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 9: think the UFC would have known, you know, I got 428 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 9: something in this guy, got something in that guy, you 429 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 9: know whatever it was. But I think, uh, I just 430 00:19:55,920 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 9: think the experience And again OSP. 431 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 4: And uh Overream, I mean, how old are those guys? 432 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 4: I mean they were opped it, you know what I mean. 433 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 9: So they take a shot, you know his age is 434 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 9: tonight going to be the night that they feel their age. 435 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 9: But you know, unfortunately for the other two guys that 436 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 9: if Saturday night wasn't that night, So maybe the next 437 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 9: time you never know when that's gonna happen. But because 438 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,439 Speaker 9: you could even see overream after he's not sure if 439 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,360 Speaker 9: he wants to retire even off of win. I thought 440 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 9: he was very hesitant when you asked him the question. 441 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 9: I thought body language was almost I thought I thought 442 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 9: he was going to retire off a win, and then 443 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 9: he was reconsidered, and you know, so he's on the fence. 444 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 6: So you know, it is interesting you say that because 445 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 6: you hit on a very important point I thought. Leading 446 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 6: up to this fight Kempflow, he was saying things that 447 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 6: sounded like a guy who had one foot out the door, 448 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 6: even though he would then follow that up by saying, 449 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,360 Speaker 6: I think you know I got three fights left, but yeah, man, 450 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 6: I mean, this would have been a great performance on 451 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 6: which to step away. But I do think that, uh, 452 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 6: at least one more. But yeah, it seems like maybe 453 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 6: at any given time he. 454 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 9: Look and then and John, even that fight, you could 455 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 9: really go back and look at like maybe he was 456 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 9: looking to get out of the Who the heck knows, 457 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 9: But you know, even his takedowns, Kenny's just dragging the 458 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 9: guy down, just grabbing him and sitting down, and you know, 459 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 9: and that's where the other guy's in experience, you could 460 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 9: see he didn't have the wrestling or the jiu jitsu, 461 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 9: and they would just fall into the matt and then 462 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 9: he was you don't want that guy on top. 463 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 4: Of you, if for sure, and uh it just was crazy. 464 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 9: But I thought body language wise, I wasn't sure which 465 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 9: way he was lead leaning, even even in. 466 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 4: A nice win like that. 467 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 6: Well, see, this is why I feel like referees really 468 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 6: need to know the athletes, because with all due rests 469 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 6: to guys like Frank Mehir and chaal Son, and when 470 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 6: mir and Son and Turtle up and shell up, they're 471 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 6: giving you a sign that they want to get out 472 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 6: of there. At least that's my humble it out of 473 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 6: over him. I didn't necessarily see that, but uh, all right, well, 474 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 6: congrats to the ring, Congrats to Oeven Saint Prue, and 475 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 6: for Alonzo Manafield, and all of a sudden, you know, 476 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 6: three months ago, four months ago, he was undefeated and 477 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 6: ounce back to back losses. So he goes back to 478 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 6: the drawing board. What'd you make of Michelle Padata Kempflo. 479 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 6: We'll start with you on him. He's the guy everybody's 480 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 6: talking about on a Monday morning. You know, I don't 481 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 6: want to say his back was up against the wall, 482 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 6: but it was a very disappointing one and two start 483 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 6: for him in the UFC, and I think he put 484 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 6: all of that in the Distant Pass with a dominant 485 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 6: effort against Zelamy Madiev. He sure did, man. 486 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 4: You know. 487 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 7: I know DC was talking about him throwing some things 488 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 7: that might have been unnecessary, but I disagree. I think 489 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 7: that's what makes Michelle Paeda so dangerous is the fact 490 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,199 Speaker 7: that he does throw a lot of things that you 491 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 7: don't expect, and I think it brings out the core. 492 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:43,679 Speaker 6: Of who he is. 493 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 7: He is very dynamic, He's physically gifted, and he can 494 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 7: throw every damn strike in the book man, and he 495 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 7: could throw it well, and he's dangerous with it. I 496 00:22:55,760 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 7: think the more variety he throws out there, I think 497 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 7: the more dangerous he is. As he gets more comfortable 498 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 7: in the octagon, especially with his takedown defense like he 499 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 7: did against Imadiev, I think this guy's going to be 500 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 7: a tough guy to stop. 501 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 6: I really do. I think range. 502 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 7: Wise, speed wise, power wise, and again, all the different 503 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 7: weapons that he throws out there and that he trusts 504 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 7: in his game is going to be a lot for 505 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 7: someone to deal with. 506 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 6: I still think he has some experience to gain. 507 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 7: Of course, but I thought this was a phenomenal experience 508 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 7: from the Brazilian fighter. I think he's only only going 509 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 7: to get better from here, and if he could keep 510 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 7: this up, he might be one of the more devastating 511 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 7: strikers in the UFC. 512 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 6: Telling you, Ray, what do you think about? 513 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 9: But I'm agreeing with Kenny one hundred percent. Look, even 514 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,439 Speaker 9: you know those strikes, if you're fighting a guy, you 515 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 9: know he can't kick you in the head. He just 516 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 9: doesn't have the flexibility that you don't have to think 517 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 9: about that. 518 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 4: It makes it a lot easier. 519 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 9: So it wasn't like he was getting beat up and 520 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 9: he started doing crazy stuff. He did it while he 521 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 9: was winning and every so often, so he he gave 522 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 9: that guy something else to think about, which was already 523 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 9: a lot to think about considering what was happening, you 524 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 9: know what I'm saying. So I think the guy he 525 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 9: was able to control his fucking craziness. I'm really impressed 526 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 9: with that because some of those guys just can't control themselves. 527 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 9: He said, he proved that he could be a disciplined 528 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 9: guy and every so often throwing a couple of crazy things. 529 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 4: But again, he's having fun. 530 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 9: He's not doing it like this is a This is 531 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 9: why he's dangerous is because one guy looked like they 532 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 9: were having a great time. 533 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 4: What'd the other guy look like? 534 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 9: The other guy just didn't want to, you know, get 535 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 9: me the fuck out of I can't do nothing, absolutely embarrassed, 536 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 9: and you know that's that's what it is. So like 537 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 9: it's almost then when you think things are going maybe okay, 538 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 9: you get smacked in the face. What's worse than that? 539 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 9: Was the guy gonna do spitting his face after that? 540 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 9: I mean, I mean he might all have just taken 541 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,919 Speaker 9: off his glove and just started smacking him with it, 542 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 9: you know what I mean. So he really technically humiliated 543 00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 9: that guy, and he did it in a way where 544 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 9: psychologically he broke them down. 545 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 4: So I disagree also with DC. You have to throw 546 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 4: that stuff in there. 547 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 9: I mean, he did it in a way where no 548 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 9: harm done. He didn't pay for anything. So why not 549 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 9: give the guy more to think about during the fight? 550 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 6: What do you take it off? This fucking glove? 551 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 4: Yo? 552 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 6: It comes back. 553 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 7: It's like, you know, cultivating the mind of a dead man. 554 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 7: You know, it's like when you don't give a shit 555 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 7: and you're just fighting just to fight and you don't care. 556 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 6: You could see them. I agree with Ray. 557 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,400 Speaker 7: You see the difference in Madiah, the frustration, the stress, 558 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 7: you know, the need to go out there and do something, 559 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 7: whereas you know, Paeda is just like, I'm I'm here 560 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 7: to have fun and I'm just gonna beat the shit 561 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:42,679 Speaker 7: out of you with whatever I got, And he was 562 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 7: just flowing out there. Imadia was forcing stuff, And it's 563 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 7: such a different mindset when you're trying to go out 564 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 7: there and forcing a win or forcing something to happen 565 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 7: out there. 566 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 6: It just never goes as well as you'd. 567 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 4: Like, right exactly. 568 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 9: I agree with one hundred percent with that. I was 569 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 9: very impressed with it, and I wasn't. I wasn't a 570 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 9: big fan before this fight because I thought he was 571 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 9: out of his mind. But I was really impressed with 572 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 9: that guy, and I think he's going to be one 573 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 9: of those guys that nobody's gonna want to fight unless 574 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 9: you know, like again, because it looks like his cardio, 575 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 9: he's got that square away, it held up pretty good, 576 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 9: and that guy was pressing forward the whole time, but 577 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,919 Speaker 9: he never looked like he was out of his comfort 578 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 9: zone for one second in that fight. 579 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 4: And I think that's the difference for me. 580 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 7: He's understanding how to balance being dynamic and being agasted 581 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 7: without being stupid. We saw him make some stupid decisions 582 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 7: before and of course early on in his UFC career, 583 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 7: so he understands what kind of fighter he is now 584 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 7: a little bit more. 585 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 6: And uh, he's balancing the stupid. How's that? 586 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 4: I think he? I think you're I agree on the 587 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 4: money today, man. 588 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 6: He's still he's still out of his scalpiees, right, I mean, 589 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 6: let's be clear. 590 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, let's well, we got one fight, he got by. 591 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 9: I think, you know, let's just give him another chance 592 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 9: because I think, like again, what I saw in the past, 593 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 9: he was just what a man had a nuts, you. 594 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 6: Know, I mean a kiss blow right in to a 595 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 6: stocked and slap. And what's funny is when he tries 596 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 6: to leverage the cage. Every time he tries to leverage 597 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 6: the fence or strike off the fence, more often than not, 598 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:12,199 Speaker 6: the guy lands. So power to Michelle Paeda, I do 599 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 6: want to ask you, Kenny. I had this as part 600 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 6: of my show preparation For today's Anak and Florian podcast, 601 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 6: Michelle Pareeda does have eleven professional losses, and you talked 602 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 6: about him getting more comfortable in the octagon. Just because 603 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 6: you got thirty pro fights doesn't mean that you're even 604 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 6: at your fighting prime. But in terms of preparing for 605 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 6: a guy like this, I don't know how many times 606 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 6: Ray You've prepared for wild Man or can flow, how 607 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 6: many times you fought somebody who was particularly wild And 608 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 6: maybe that's not the right adjective, but how do you 609 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 6: prepare for a guy like Padata when you really don't 610 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 6: know what's coming? When it comes to all that variety. 611 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 7: Man, I tell you what, You're gonna have to get 612 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 7: a variety of sparring partners, and you're gonna have to 613 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 7: have a sparring partner who's gonna have to do. 614 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 6: Tape on someone like Padata. 615 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 7: And it's gonna throw a lot of unusual stuff at you, 616 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 7: everything from what the rolling thunder kick to everything else 617 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 7: that he'd throughout jumping off the cage, spinning attacks, slaps, 618 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 7: you know, clowning them in the octagon. Those are all 619 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 7: things that can really throw you off as a fighter 620 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 7: as well. When you see a guy who's right in 621 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 7: front of you and he's looking down at the mat 622 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 7: and clowning you. 623 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 6: It could be extremely frustrating. 624 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 7: It can get you emotional, and I think it absolutely 625 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 7: did that to IMADIAV, especially a guy who hasn't seen 626 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 7: a lot Imadia of what that was his third fight 627 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 7: in the octagon, so he wasn't exactly the most experienced 628 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 7: guy in the octagon that night. And I think it 629 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 7: worked out really well for Padata. Now how well that 630 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 7: works against someone like a Kamara Uzman moving forward is 631 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 7: a completely different story, And of course that's a different 632 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 7: style to do a deal with altogether. But on as 633 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 7: far as facing any other striker out there, Padaeda's got 634 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 7: a lot of tools, man, a lot of tools that 635 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 7: can throw you off and take you out. 636 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 9: Yeah, And what's more scary about that, you could see 637 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 9: him developing other tools, Like I think he's just beginning. 638 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 9: And when you have that type of skill set and 639 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 9: the flexibility and that you know, that explosiveness, me, you 640 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 9: could do a lot with that, you know. So if 641 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 9: he gets with the right people and they harness that, 642 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 9: like you say, like just met meet me in the 643 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 9: middle with the crazy, that's going to be a problem 644 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 9: as far as preparing for guys like that, Like what 645 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 9: Kenny was saying, you have to go over all those things. 646 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 9: I think even when I had Widman against Anderson Silva, 647 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 9: Anderson Silver is another guy. He would clown you into 648 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 9: walking into something. We went through that a thousand times. 649 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 9: I would mimic him, I would go through with him, 650 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 9: and he wasn't going to have it, you know what 651 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 9: I mean. That wasn't going to be the first time 652 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 9: he saw it in the octagon. It was going to 653 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 9: be going over and over and over. And the other 654 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 9: thing is you might have to take of blows to 655 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 9: give a couple of blows with these guys. So conditioning 656 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 9: has to be off the charts where you could push 657 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 9: these guys when nobody else has pushed them. And I 658 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 9: know as far as Anderson Silver, that's the way we 659 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 9: addressed it because he he was clowning people, you know, 660 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 9: like look what he did to Forest Griffin. 661 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 4: He be tortured. That guy's bit. 662 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 9: The guy ran out of a ring he went to 663 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 9: was I think he left. He just left, got in 664 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 9: his car and drove home from Philadelphia, you know what 665 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 9: I mean. So you have to be careful because if 666 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 9: you're not the right, if you're not grounded, those guys 667 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 9: could really just sit you on a path of where 668 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 9: you just unravel in front of twenty thousand people. 669 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 6: Well, despite what Michelle Pareta said during fight week about 670 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 6: his contract and what I then said on broadcast, this 671 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 6: was the first fight of a new UFC deal, so 672 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 6: he is signed. He says he's going to move to 673 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 6: Vegas and lean on that UFCPI So sky just might 674 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 6: be the limit for Michelle Pereeda. It is a tough 675 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 6: division though, all right, because I know Ray Longo is 676 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 6: doing like postfight shows and shit, I can go even 677 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 6: deeper on this car before we get to bat the 678 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 6: steam roller for Bawl and Billy Q fighting this weekend. 679 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 6: Andre Moon is over Bartosh Babinski by armbar kenflow looked 680 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 6: like a beautiful transition. To my amateur eyes, thought he 681 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 6: was going for the triangle, and before I could even 682 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 6: say anything, the tap had come. So talk us through 683 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 6: the great arm bar for the thus far UFC perfect 684 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 6: Andre Muniz. 685 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 7: You know it's not your typical finish that you'll see 686 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 7: at a high level, just because there's not a whole 687 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 7: lot of control of the body when you switch from 688 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 7: a triangle to an armlock like that. So instead of 689 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 7: having his arm over the body, underneath the armpit and 690 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 7: over the head, there's way more control with the frame 691 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 7: of your legs for him being able to stack. Fabinski 692 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 7: thought he was just in a triangle and was just 693 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 7: trying to maneuver around the triangle. He didn't expect the 694 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 7: arm lock and wasn't prepared positionally to escape that arm lock. 695 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 7: He thought he was just in a triangle. He went 696 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 7: to move, got compromised in that armlock position and just 697 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 7: tap real quickly. But that's not an arm lock that 698 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 7: you'll see a lot because there's not a whole lot 699 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 7: of control Fabinski could have gotten out of that. Of course, 700 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 7: you're talking about seconds away from you know, having to 701 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 7: make those decisions. He went the wrong way, which put 702 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 7: him in a compromised position positionally, and Muniz hit a 703 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 7: beautiful for arm bars, so unfortunate therefore Forbinsky, a nice, 704 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 7: a nice finish which you don't see too often at 705 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 7: a high level. 706 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 6: And yeah, on go onward, go goes Monie, and uh 707 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 6: he gets a bonus, and so does Brian Keller, and 708 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 6: then he shouts out the New York Islanders as well, 709 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 6: which I really enjoyed even as a Boston guy. But uh, 710 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 6: tough go for Ray Rodriguez. Right, he's home in San Antonio, 711 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 6: rushes into Vegas, doesn't even get to stare down with 712 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 6: Brian Kelleher. And just before Kellerher went to bed, and 713 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 6: actually just before I went to bed, we found out 714 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 6: that Kevin Na TV dad was out and Ray Rodriguez 715 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 6: was in. So I feel bad for the kid. Maybe 716 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 6: he didn't know about that patent did keller Her guillotine, 717 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 6: but uh, seems like Kellerher has got a pretty good 718 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 6: feel for that guillotine choke Gray, what'd you make a 719 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 6: Boom's performance? 720 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 4: Man? 721 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 9: Listen, man, I'm gonna say I'm making a prediction. Brian 722 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 9: Kelleher is gonna be the new Jim Miller. He just 723 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 9: looks like he's just. 724 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 4: Gonna fight and fight and fight. They're gonna do it. 725 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 9: They're gonna have a great living, they're gonna go on, 726 00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 9: they're gonna win some, they're gonna lose some, but they're 727 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 9: always gonna be in the fight. And that's the way 728 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 9: I look at look at Kellerh Now, he just reminds 729 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 9: me of a Jim Miller work ethic. 730 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 4: He's just always in there. 731 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 9: And the one thing Aljo said years ago to me, 732 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 9: he goes that guy. 733 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 4: You can't have that guy on your neck. It's one 734 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 4: thing he does good. 735 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 9: He's got squeeze strength, supposedly, you know, just phenomenal squeeze strength. 736 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 4: And he's proven it, you know. 737 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 9: But I remember al Jo said that, and I think 738 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 9: even DC said that in a fight that Aljo had 739 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 9: told him that he's got a. 740 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 4: Great guillotine and you can't stay there. 741 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 9: You You've got to get frantic and get the hell 742 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 9: out of it because he will he will get you 743 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 9: with that. So hats off to him. Man, he's willing 744 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 9: to jump in there on just he didn't care. One 745 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 9: guy just wants to fight. Like again, I think he's 746 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 9: picking up checks and that's good for him. 747 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 4: Man. 748 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 9: He's he's really doing something in this this crazy time 749 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 9: we're going through where people are struggling to make money. 750 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 4: He's he's got to be on top of the world. 751 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 4: This kid. 752 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, four appearances this year, three of them wins. Hasn't 753 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 6: had to cut a lot of weightcan flow because he's 754 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 6: competing at one hundred and forty five pounds. What do 755 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 6: you have for us on the guillotine and what makes 756 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 6: some guys maybe more special or crafty with it than others. 757 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 7: Well, you know, it's a fantastic technique that I kind 758 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 7: of ignored in my MMA career because it's a great 759 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,879 Speaker 7: equalizer to a guy who's trying to take it down. 760 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 7: If you're going against a wrestler with a good double 761 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,839 Speaker 7: or single and you don't have a solid or dangerous 762 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 7: kind of shizam style submission like a guillotine, it could 763 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 7: really put you in a lot of bad positions. So 764 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 7: now for a lot of people who say, well, you know, 765 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 7: because keller he's got some power on the feet as well, 766 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 7: and thinking that you're just gonna take him down, put 767 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,479 Speaker 7: him on his back and finish him. Now, it's gonna 768 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 7: get people to really think otherwise because it is a 769 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 7: great equalizer, a great counter to those takedowns. And Kellerher 770 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 7: wrapped it up, did excellent control with his legs to 771 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 7: keep that going. 772 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 6: And I agree with Ray. 773 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 7: I think Kellerher is one of those guys going to 774 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 7: be around a long time and he just kind of 775 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 7: has that I don't give a shit attitude he's gonna 776 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 7: fight anybody any time. 777 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. 778 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 9: And the other thing is, man, once you you have 779 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 9: that type of guillotine, even if you go for it 780 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 9: and the guy gets out, he gets out luckily, he 781 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 9: don't want to go back in there again. 782 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 4: So you give that guy again. 783 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,359 Speaker 9: It's another thing to think about, going back to what 784 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,839 Speaker 9: we we said before. The more things you can make 785 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 9: a guy think about, the easier it's going to be 786 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 9: to get to them, because your brain can't process that 787 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 9: many things, you know what I mean. That's why these 788 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,799 Speaker 9: unorthodox guys are tough. You just can't follow them. You 789 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 9: don't see it enough and sparring, you know what I mean. 790 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 9: So you don't have the flight time even in your training, 791 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 9: and then you get in there and angles are coming 792 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 9: at you from all all over the place and it 793 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 9: poses a major problem. But same thing with this guillotine. 794 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 9: Even if he got out, trust me, he's not gonna 795 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 9: want to go nowhere near that and that's going to 796 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 9: affect what he does. 797 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 4: From that point on. 798 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,879 Speaker 6: Yeah, you guys are both on fucking fire day. It's 799 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 6: like an escape room. Why are you going back in 800 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 6: an escaper like? Once I got off the only roller 801 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:57,879 Speaker 6: coaster I went on, in my. 802 00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 4: Life, you don't get back on. 803 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 6: The Barriss wheel. 804 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 4: I mean, you go to a restaurant, you get salmonella, 805 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 4: you go back in the next day. No, this is 806 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 4: basic common sense, Henny. 807 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,800 Speaker 6: So, Kenny, are you saying that defensively in your career 808 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 6: you didn't leverage the guillotine as much as you would like? Absolutely? 809 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 6: You know. 810 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,880 Speaker 7: I think there there was a time in my jiu 811 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 7: jitsu career where I had a really sharp guillotine. 812 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 6: It was one of my go to moves. 813 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 7: But in m m A there was some there were 814 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 7: some spots, especially up against the cage, where if you 815 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 7: went for that guillotine and you didn't get it, you 816 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 7: were in a really bad spot. So I think I 817 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,480 Speaker 7: would say for me, I was like, you know what, 818 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 7: I'm not going to go for the guillotine. I'd rather 819 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 7: try to fight the take down a little bit more, 820 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 7: uh than compromise my position. But the reality is I 821 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 7: should have been working to sharpen up my guillotine way 822 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,399 Speaker 7: more as a nice equalizer to a lot of those 823 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 7: guys who kind of would take me down and be 824 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,239 Speaker 7: a blanket on me. So I wish I worked done 825 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 7: it more. I do have a good guillotine now, thankfully. 826 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 7: Uh So, it's just one of those things that I 827 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:10,320 Speaker 7: think a lot of people don't utilize as well. Cacomma Worthy, 828 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,880 Speaker 7: who I'm sure we'll talk about later hit a beautiful 829 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,400 Speaker 7: highabo guillotine against Louis Louis Pena. 830 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 6: So, uh, it's a very powerful move. It's this is 831 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,439 Speaker 6: the most vulnerable part of the neck. 832 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,879 Speaker 7: It's the one submission you could utilize to actually kill 833 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:24,799 Speaker 7: another human being. 834 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:26,240 Speaker 6: It's the only submission. 835 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,720 Speaker 7: It's the most powerful submission, uh, in all of martial arts, 836 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 7: whether you're talking about rear, naked or guillotine. 837 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 6: It's a brutal move and more more guy should be utilizing. 838 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:40,799 Speaker 9: Yeah, and to what Kenny's saying, excited man, Well, whenever 839 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 9: we talk about Team Florian and Kemflo's career, I get excited. 840 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 4: For this, I tell you. 841 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 9: But you know, and let me just add something that 842 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:50,320 Speaker 9: Kenny Lee that agree to disagree, but philosophy philosophies of 843 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,920 Speaker 9: volv also so back then, what he's saying, you go 844 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 9: for the guillotine, you got somebody in your rea, then 845 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,359 Speaker 9: you lose, You lose the guillotine. The guys are I 846 00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 9: thought you know, it takes it until somebody does. There 847 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,320 Speaker 9: were a lot of things that people thought would never happen. 848 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,400 Speaker 9: Now I'll just front kick them in the face. You know, 849 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,320 Speaker 9: all of a sudden, people are just front kicking you 850 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 9: right in a goddamn face. 851 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 4: So as things. 852 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:15,240 Speaker 9: Went on and people evolved and all those different arts 853 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 9: started to cross over and become into tying, Yeah, things change, 854 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 9: and I think back, what Kenny's saying is one hundred 855 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,759 Speaker 9: percent true. Don't go for a leg lock. You'll end 856 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,759 Speaker 9: up in a bad position. Don't do this, don't do that. 857 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 9: You know, guess what it takes somebody to go fuck you. 858 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 9: I don't give a shit. I'm going for it. And 859 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,359 Speaker 9: you know what, now they get it. Now everybody's going 860 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,759 Speaker 9: for it, you know. So it's all philosophy. Is that 861 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,360 Speaker 9: kind of career? One hundred percent? This is what the 862 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 9: martial arts is all about. A lot of times, don't 863 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 9: throw it away until you've really investigated it. 864 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 7: Now, this is this is These are the choices we 865 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,920 Speaker 7: have to make as coaches and as martial arts practitioners 866 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 7: of how much time do I want to spend on 867 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,319 Speaker 7: this as opposed to that that's the most difficult part. 868 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,280 Speaker 6: I think of training camps. 869 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,799 Speaker 7: And so yes, because there's always an answer. You could 870 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,359 Speaker 7: always make your martial art work. It just comes down 871 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 7: to how are you going to make it work? And 872 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,719 Speaker 7: that's the philosophy from a guy like a Bruce Lee, 873 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,920 Speaker 7: where the combat it never stops evolving, it never stops. 874 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 6: There's always something you could do. 875 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. Look, even when I. 876 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 9: Was training met back in the day, John, like at 877 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,279 Speaker 9: the beginning he changed, But at the beginning he would 878 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 9: never want to do a spin. 879 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 4: Technique because he could give up his back. 880 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 9: You know, I'm not going to do that because then 881 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 9: the guy's on my net and you know what that 882 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:28,360 Speaker 9: you know, Like again, at that time, everybody was experimenting. 883 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:29,960 Speaker 4: It was an arms race, you know what I mean. 884 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 9: If you had a new way of training, if you 885 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 9: had a new technique, it was it was big stuff 886 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 9: back then. 887 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:36,480 Speaker 4: Now it's you know it not. 888 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,080 Speaker 9: As much because we've evolved so much. But back then 889 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:40,920 Speaker 9: there were a lot of things you didn't want to 890 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 9: take a risk at. You were playing it safe. But 891 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:43,840 Speaker 9: today you're letting. 892 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 4: The shit go. 893 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,880 Speaker 6: And there are a lot of athletes that we have 894 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:51,759 Speaker 6: roundly criticized on broadcast who don't have a good enough 895 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 6: guillotine and they try to use it defensively. 896 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:58,879 Speaker 4: And now you have to know your athlete also, right, you. 897 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,399 Speaker 6: Know, all right before we let you go, you got 898 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,880 Speaker 6: Matt the steam roll of for Bolla. I don't know 899 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,320 Speaker 6: if Sal the Bulldozer for ball it's going to be 900 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,880 Speaker 6: at his corner this weekend and not. But you got 901 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 6: Matt Fravola and Billy Q best of friends, both competing 902 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,759 Speaker 6: this weekend. So i'd imagine you will be watching with 903 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,359 Speaker 6: a keen eye as those guys. 904 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 9: I will be watching with a key. And let's wish 905 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,799 Speaker 9: the Bulldozer a happy birthday. I think I saw on 906 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:25,399 Speaker 9: social media at Sal's birthday, Sosal, happy birthday. 907 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 4: Buddy, one of the good, good dads in the sport, 908 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:28,879 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. 909 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,920 Speaker 9: So those guys have been down in Florida. I really 910 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,839 Speaker 9: didn't get involved with this camp. I had started him 911 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 9: for this fight. We had a great camp going back 912 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,799 Speaker 9: in whenever it was and then it got scratched. So 913 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,359 Speaker 9: I hope he's sticking to that. I'll probably give him 914 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 9: a call. I've been you know, he left while I 915 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 9: was still in Vegas. And the way this crazy thing's going, 916 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,800 Speaker 9: it's been just one of the pazards of everything. 917 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:52,840 Speaker 4: Is he lose touch and whatever. 918 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:54,920 Speaker 9: But I think those guys are both going to crush 919 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,800 Speaker 9: it this week again. He knows that we had started 920 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 9: with Roosevelt Roberts a while back, so I think he's 921 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,719 Speaker 9: got a great blueprint and hopefully he sticks to it. 922 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,960 Speaker 6: Rosie Roberts has been calling him out every step. 923 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:11,240 Speaker 9: Oh those guys, he's like he's the He's the Frovola 924 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:12,760 Speaker 9: what Kevin Lee was to hire. 925 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 4: Quin that he just can't stop. I mean, Tivin Lee 926 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,200 Speaker 4: would lose. He's still calling him out. 927 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,760 Speaker 9: That's all the fight. I just you gotta move on, buddy, 928 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,480 Speaker 9: move on. You know this guy, Roosevelt Roberts, because I 929 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 9: think Frovola beat Jalen Turner. He wants to avenge it 930 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 9: like it's a Koch Fu movie. He wants to avenge 931 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 9: his buddy's death. I really it's a little wacky, but 932 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 9: he's gonna get exactly what he is for, I think 933 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,799 Speaker 9: on Saturday night because Steamroller. 934 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:38,800 Speaker 4: Steamroll has got. 935 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 6: A lot of awesome So all right, man, well we'll 936 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:45,320 Speaker 6: let you go. Uh So, I mean, can you grab 937 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,520 Speaker 6: can you grab that hair and put in a ponytail? 938 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:51,879 Speaker 6: Let's just grab it. Let me see what happened. Oh, yeah, 939 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:52,440 Speaker 6: there we go. 940 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,799 Speaker 7: Hey, kay, Cody, can we get some a n F 941 00:41:55,920 --> 00:42:00,319 Speaker 7: scrunchies made that we can send Hank Florence scrunchies for Ray. 942 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:02,279 Speaker 6: Send them a ten pack for me? 943 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, unbelievable. 944 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,239 Speaker 6: Hey, check is in the mail the Ray Long a 945 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 6: Minute merchandise? Have you got onto Ana Chlorine podcast dot com? 946 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:16,640 Speaker 6: Have you seen the store by the way, Ray? Have 947 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 6: you seen the Ray Long a Minute merchandise? Have you 948 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 6: not even seen it? 949 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 9: I have to be on I'm going to go on 950 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:23,719 Speaker 9: it today though, because I feel can you give me 951 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:24,520 Speaker 9: a heads up on that? 952 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 4: I thought it was a joke when you sent me 953 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,360 Speaker 4: that stuff. You guys actually made merchandise for me. 954 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 6: Guys, unbelievable. 955 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 4: Let me tell you something. 956 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,520 Speaker 9: I want to address all my Minute men out there 957 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,439 Speaker 9: merchandise store and please buy. 958 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:40,759 Speaker 4: You gotta be ready in a minute in this game. 959 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:43,640 Speaker 4: It is unbelievable. 960 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:44,759 Speaker 6: Oh that's so good. 961 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:46,760 Speaker 8: I love you guys. 962 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 4: Grow up serious. 963 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,440 Speaker 10: Every week we need Ray in a different outfit. I 964 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,000 Speaker 10: think this is a new thing that we got to 965 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:57,080 Speaker 10: go with. Yeah, I gotta go up. Never wrecked your age? 966 00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,160 Speaker 10: Remember that act your shoe size exactly. 967 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:01,440 Speaker 6: It's a trap. Don't grow up. 968 00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:02,480 Speaker 4: Don't grow up? 969 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,200 Speaker 6: All right, have a have a great week. Anything else. 970 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,440 Speaker 4: You guys actually made my monday. You made my monday. 971 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,319 Speaker 9: This was the most insightful conversation I've ever had with. 972 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 4: Funny today. I love it. 973 00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:16,759 Speaker 6: I love talking to Ray. 974 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:17,560 Speaker 4: It was good. 975 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:21,360 Speaker 6: Well, when we actually get deep on martial arts, you 976 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:22,480 Speaker 6: can see, you know. 977 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,640 Speaker 4: I love it when he brings up Bruce Lee. Man, 978 00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:29,239 Speaker 4: that's it. It's all over. Oh yeah, you know, all 979 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,920 Speaker 4: right here what is? 980 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:33,360 Speaker 6: You go reject? 981 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,360 Speaker 4: What is useless? So I'm rejecting this goddamn podcast. 982 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:43,520 Speaker 6: There he's on Fire Wow podcast. I think what helps 983 00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,760 Speaker 6: him if I'm being honest, That's my new verbal crutch. 984 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,960 Speaker 6: If I'm being honest, Our producer Cody Merrow helps him, 985 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,440 Speaker 6: of course. But I do think doing the post fight 986 00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,480 Speaker 6: show that he's been doing at times, I think it 987 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,799 Speaker 6: just tunes him in. And so then a lot of 988 00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:59,799 Speaker 6: this is repetitive. You know, when you and I used 989 00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:03,799 Speaker 6: to do like those radio tours before, like Ronda would fight. Yes, 990 00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,720 Speaker 6: you know, by interview number twenty, it's like your fucking 991 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:08,960 Speaker 6: money or you're ready to kill yourself. You know, but 992 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:10,840 Speaker 6: more often than not, you're pretty good by that point 993 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:14,279 Speaker 6: in time. All Right, another UFC Fight Night beckons it 994 00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,480 Speaker 6: is Waterson versus Hill. Let us get to the Main Event. 995 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:27,800 Speaker 6: Challenge's the Main Event Challenge and time is most. 996 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,239 Speaker 4: Fian How fine? 997 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:30,799 Speaker 6: How do you everything possible to win? 998 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:34,680 Speaker 3: It's the Main Event Challenge with John Hannack and Kenny 999 00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,360 Speaker 3: Florian podcast. 1000 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,680 Speaker 6: And it is now time to welcome in Mixed Martial 1001 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:44,520 Speaker 6: arts handicapper former mixed Martial arts manager on social media, 1002 00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:46,840 Speaker 6: Ian Parker m m A. Ian Parker now joins US 1003 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,359 Speaker 6: Live from Parkland, Florida. And I wanted to ask you 1004 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,319 Speaker 6: about this off the air, but I do think it 1005 00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,799 Speaker 6: might resonate or be of value to our listeners, so 1006 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,040 Speaker 6: I'm just gonna throw it out there. Ken Flow knows 1007 00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:59,520 Speaker 6: some of this. So in Palm Beach County, the public 1008 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:03,600 Speaker 6: schools are opening on September twenty first, right, But unlike 1009 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,680 Speaker 6: some of the private schools down here, you know, my 1010 00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:07,640 Speaker 6: kids are in public school, so we don't know exactly 1011 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,200 Speaker 6: how often are they gonna wear their masks. So I'm 1012 00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,200 Speaker 6: trying to decide whether or not to send my kids 1013 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,319 Speaker 6: back to school on September twenty first, and Ian, I 1014 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,279 Speaker 6: know you have some opinions on this, but as I 1015 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,960 Speaker 6: sit here two weeks out, I don't know what the 1016 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:20,279 Speaker 6: fuck I'm supposed to do. 1017 00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,000 Speaker 11: Yeah, and you're not supposed to know either. 1018 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:25,080 Speaker 8: If you if you. 1019 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,800 Speaker 11: Were one hundred percent one way or the other, everyone 1020 00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,160 Speaker 11: should listen to you then, And this is listen right now. 1021 00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:34,040 Speaker 11: In Broward County, my daughter just started preschool last tuesday, 1022 00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,480 Speaker 11: and I will tell you, in a smaller school, I 1023 00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,520 Speaker 11: guess it's private. And we get there, they do our 1024 00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,680 Speaker 11: temperature check, they make or wash your hands, they make 1025 00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:43,600 Speaker 11: all the adults wear a mask, they walk, they walk 1026 00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,960 Speaker 11: her inside. They've been open all summer for camp at 1027 00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,600 Speaker 11: this place and they've not had one positive test. And 1028 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,560 Speaker 11: there's not one asshole there who who's complaining about wearing 1029 00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:52,040 Speaker 11: a mask. 1030 00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,839 Speaker 8: So I will say in that regard, it's work. 1031 00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 11: But for a public school, you know, my son's been 1032 00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:00,239 Speaker 11: doing virtual from eight to two excuse me, for the 1033 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,440 Speaker 11: last three weeks since school started. It's hard for me 1034 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,440 Speaker 11: to imagine any public school opening and be able to 1035 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:08,520 Speaker 11: remain open with all the exposure you know you're gonna 1036 00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,160 Speaker 11: get in this one positive test and then what happens, 1037 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:11,480 Speaker 11: then you. 1038 00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,279 Speaker 8: Guys are kind of you're fucked and you. 1039 00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:13,960 Speaker 4: Have to go. You know. 1040 00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:18,560 Speaker 11: In my opinion, if I was the district decision maker, 1041 00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,160 Speaker 11: I would literally hold off until winter break. They spend 1042 00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:24,240 Speaker 11: so much time inment, investment on getting these kids comfortable 1043 00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,000 Speaker 11: with learning from home and trying to get used to 1044 00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:29,080 Speaker 11: a normal schedule, whatever the new normal is. To really 1045 00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,080 Speaker 11: only give it three weeks worth of a try, you know, 1046 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:34,120 Speaker 11: I would maybe consider a hybrid, you know, not a 1047 00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,960 Speaker 11: full blown exposure, because I think they'll just set everybody back, 1048 00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,439 Speaker 11: especially in Florida where last weekend we had a twenty 1049 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:40,840 Speaker 11: three percent increase in cases. 1050 00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,920 Speaker 8: You know, but Florida's really not done the right thing here. 1051 00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:45,759 Speaker 11: This is what I mean. Every other state in the 1052 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,680 Speaker 11: country opens jibs in phase seven. We opened it in 1053 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:52,319 Speaker 11: phase one, so we're very bright that's up. 1054 00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:53,200 Speaker 4: It is. 1055 00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,799 Speaker 6: So my nine year old is like begging me to 1056 00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:57,920 Speaker 6: send her back to school. I'm really just bringing it 1057 00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,400 Speaker 6: up because I think parents have a hard decision because 1058 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,200 Speaker 6: there's so much that is not ideal about the distance learning. 1059 00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,799 Speaker 6: And at this point my nine year old is literally like, Daddy, 1060 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,040 Speaker 6: I'll wear a mask, I'll starve all day and eat lunch. 1061 00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:09,760 Speaker 6: When I come home, I just want to see my friends. 1062 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:11,560 Speaker 6: So it's like, what am I supposed to do? Yeah, 1063 00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:13,680 Speaker 6: I mean it's a tough one. 1064 00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:17,240 Speaker 7: And again I think we need to remember that kids 1065 00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:21,920 Speaker 7: are you know, assuming everyone's healthy, you know, they are 1066 00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,160 Speaker 7: the safest out of every one of the population. But 1067 00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:28,160 Speaker 7: obviously they go home to parents or grandparents who may 1068 00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:31,200 Speaker 7: not be So it's a tricky thing, man, And I 1069 00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,560 Speaker 7: just hope that we learn from this damn situation so 1070 00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,480 Speaker 7: we're ready for the next pandemic. 1071 00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,000 Speaker 6: For twenty twenty one. All right, let's update the scores 1072 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:39,840 Speaker 6: for you. It is now one eleven to one oh 1073 00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:43,040 Speaker 6: nine for Team Florian after a big week four. Team Anna, 1074 00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,839 Speaker 6: captain by Ian Parker, was five to three. If you're 1075 00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:47,879 Speaker 6: curious about the swing fight, it was the co main 1076 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:53,960 Speaker 6: event open Saint Prue and Alonzo Menafield. Ian had Saint 1077 00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,920 Speaker 6: Prue in round two, he had Von Fluel was a knockout, 1078 00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:58,120 Speaker 6: but you got the round right and that was the 1079 00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,759 Speaker 6: underdog and ken Flow did have als drovery by Tko 1080 00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,480 Speaker 6: in round four, so that was a two point hitter 1081 00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,200 Speaker 6: for you. But Team Florian is still in control one 1082 00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,400 Speaker 6: eleven one oh nine. But things continue to tighten up, 1083 00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,160 Speaker 6: and we have four picks for you today, two of 1084 00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:13,239 Speaker 6: the full variety, and then a couple quick picks on 1085 00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,160 Speaker 6: the way out. We will begin with a Komain event 1086 00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:19,320 Speaker 6: at lightweight that I absolutely fucking love. Kama Worthy minus 1087 00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,600 Speaker 6: one forty, Ottman a Zeitar minus one twenty. We will 1088 00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:24,279 Speaker 6: need the round of the method of victory. Guys will 1089 00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,880 Speaker 6: have Ian lead here, so Worthy two to zero in 1090 00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:30,080 Speaker 6: the UFC. Thus far, this matchup has been delayed several times, 1091 00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,439 Speaker 6: so I have voiced a combo feature for this fight 1092 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:34,920 Speaker 6: at least three times this year and now I'm not 1093 00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,879 Speaker 6: calling it memorable. UFC debuty and last year at Abu Dhabi, 1094 00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:39,239 Speaker 6: but he has not fought since your thoughts on the 1095 00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:40,520 Speaker 6: Komain event and who gets it done? 1096 00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:44,040 Speaker 11: I think this is somebody who twice has come in 1097 00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,879 Speaker 11: as a as an underdog, a significant underdog, and has 1098 00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:50,000 Speaker 11: surprised everybody, and I don't think it should be a 1099 00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,479 Speaker 11: surprise anymore. This is just the guy who has paid 1100 00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,400 Speaker 11: his dues and for whatever reason, couldn't get into the 1101 00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,000 Speaker 11: UFC earlier, which is kind of shocking because we've seen 1102 00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,399 Speaker 11: a lot of guys with shittier records, you know, who 1103 00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,880 Speaker 11: have come in and who maybe kind of had a 1104 00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,839 Speaker 11: uh what's the word padded record compared to Comma Worthy. 1105 00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:06,640 Speaker 11: You know, he comes in with a huge knockout, biggest 1106 00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,640 Speaker 11: underdog of the year. Then against Luis Penna Kenya, you know, 1107 00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:13,080 Speaker 11: first round dominating, second round was you know, got controlled 1108 00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,560 Speaker 11: on the ground, third round, made the adjustments and then 1109 00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,680 Speaker 11: got a ridiculous guillotine sub. It's so hard for me 1110 00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:20,480 Speaker 11: to not I just think that Comma Worthy may be 1111 00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,200 Speaker 11: the complete fighter that people are underestimating. I think his 1112 00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,960 Speaker 11: striking is good, his speed, he's very big for the division. 1113 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:27,560 Speaker 8: Also, Cardio is there. 1114 00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,560 Speaker 11: I'm just a huge fan, and I think that maybe 1115 00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,240 Speaker 11: it's time we give him a little bit more credit 1116 00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,759 Speaker 11: than he's been getting here. I know the lines were 1117 00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,279 Speaker 11: more even when this first opened. I now see that 1118 00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,240 Speaker 11: it's at what is at minus one forty? I believe 1119 00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:41,960 Speaker 11: give me Comma Worthy. I want to see this guy 1120 00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,200 Speaker 11: keep going. I want to see the street continue. I'm 1121 00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:44,560 Speaker 11: a fan. 1122 00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:49,000 Speaker 6: Let's go, all right, how's he get it done? Shit? 1123 00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:54,720 Speaker 8: Forgot about that one? Hum Man, He's finished both his fights. 1124 00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:56,080 Speaker 6: I don't know if he's gonna finish this guy that 1125 00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:56,719 Speaker 6: you know what, just give. 1126 00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,000 Speaker 11: Me, give me the decision for the moment. I need 1127 00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:00,680 Speaker 11: a little bit more time new tape on his opponent. 1128 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:02,239 Speaker 6: Then Flow, what do you have for me on the 1129 00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,839 Speaker 6: coomain kid? This is a tough one. 1130 00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:08,600 Speaker 7: You know, we don't know a whole lot about Otman 1131 00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:12,040 Speaker 7: Azeitar and I feel like, you know, he's got this 1132 00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:16,200 Speaker 7: undefeated record, but Kamma Worthy, I feel like is way 1133 00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:19,760 Speaker 7: more battle tested despite having what he has six losses. 1134 00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,040 Speaker 7: I think on his record that's not always a great 1135 00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:25,799 Speaker 7: indicator of how good they are, and I think that 1136 00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:30,000 Speaker 7: Worthy might have more ways to win. I don't think 1137 00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:33,080 Speaker 7: he's the most technical guy in the world as of 1138 00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:37,080 Speaker 7: right now. I'm not sure he'll get into that insane 1139 00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,720 Speaker 7: top fifteen and one hundred and thirty five pound division. 1140 00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:43,360 Speaker 7: But I do think he's got the right mindset and 1141 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,480 Speaker 7: I do think he makes the right decisions out there 1142 00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:48,680 Speaker 7: for the most part. So I like Kama Worthy as well. 1143 00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,720 Speaker 7: Let's go with Let's go with third round TKO. 1144 00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:55,360 Speaker 6: All right, Kamma Worthy, third round TKO the Ken Flow 1145 00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:57,719 Speaker 6: selection and that brings us to the main event. We 1146 00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:59,400 Speaker 6: will have Ken Flow lead the dance. Here, you got 1147 00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,280 Speaker 6: Angela Hill, Honest one forty five, The Karate Hatty Michelle 1148 00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:05,320 Speaker 6: Watterson plus one twenty five. Another fight that was supposed 1149 00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:07,799 Speaker 6: to happen prior, got a little bit of a delay here, 1150 00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:09,680 Speaker 6: and now it's going to be five rounds obviously, Kenny, 1151 00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,600 Speaker 6: because Thiago Santos and Glover to Shera are not walking 1152 00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,080 Speaker 6: through that door. Hill's got a lot of momentum. She's 1153 00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,279 Speaker 6: a completely different fighter than the one that was sort 1154 00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:20,040 Speaker 6: of unceremoniously cut from the UFC and then returned several 1155 00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:23,160 Speaker 6: years ago. I was amazed to read that she's the 1156 00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:26,920 Speaker 6: first black woman to headline at UFC, which is absolutely 1157 00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:30,759 Speaker 6: awesome in this climate or not, it's very awesome. What 1158 00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:32,400 Speaker 6: do you think about Hill here as a slight favorite 1159 00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:33,160 Speaker 6: against Waterson? 1160 00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:37,279 Speaker 7: You know, I like the fact that Hill is in 1161 00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,600 Speaker 7: a five round fight against Waterson then a three. 1162 00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:41,359 Speaker 6: I think that favors her a little bit. 1163 00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:43,759 Speaker 7: I think she tends to get stronger as the fight 1164 00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:48,520 Speaker 7: goes on, but I think Waterson does have the skills 1165 00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,839 Speaker 7: to get it done. I don't see a finish from 1166 00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,320 Speaker 7: either of these women. I think both are very tough, 1167 00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:59,560 Speaker 7: and you know, I see it really being a chess match. 1168 00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,719 Speaker 7: You know, as far as the footwork goes, I think 1169 00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:07,120 Speaker 7: Waterson's gonna have to stick and move, utilize that sidekick 1170 00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,680 Speaker 7: that she has so well to strike, get in, get out, 1171 00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,440 Speaker 7: try to tack the body of Hill as much as possible. 1172 00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,680 Speaker 7: And Hill really needs to be good about cutting off 1173 00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:19,080 Speaker 7: the cage stopping those takedowns every once in a while. 1174 00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,640 Speaker 7: Waterson has a sneaky good double leg that she hits every. 1175 00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:22,160 Speaker 6: Once in a while. 1176 00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,759 Speaker 7: And I think Waterson should be the better grappler here 1177 00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,960 Speaker 7: as far as once they get to the ground. So 1178 00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,040 Speaker 7: for that reason, I think Waterson's Waterson might be a 1179 00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,200 Speaker 7: little bit more well rounded. I also think she's faced 1180 00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:38,239 Speaker 7: tougher competition overall than Angela Hill. And I think, you know, 1181 00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:41,160 Speaker 7: when you see these five round fights often it kind 1182 00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:44,879 Speaker 7: of comes down to experience. It's a tough one to pick. 1183 00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,240 Speaker 7: But I like Waterson by decision. 1184 00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,799 Speaker 6: Here, Watterson by decision, and yeah, she definitely has the 1185 00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:52,960 Speaker 6: five round and championship experience over Angela Hill. Hill has 1186 00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:54,879 Speaker 6: some though, of course as a former in victa FC 1187 00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,160 Speaker 6: champion as well, but I think you bring up a 1188 00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,640 Speaker 6: lot of good points. And again, you know, these women 1189 00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:01,520 Speaker 6: just found out about ten days ago that this was 1190 00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:04,560 Speaker 6: going to be five and not three. But Waterson's back 1191 00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:06,600 Speaker 6: is up against the wall. She's lost two straight after 1192 00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:09,680 Speaker 6: she had all that divisional momentum. So it's a fascinating 1193 00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:11,920 Speaker 6: main event for me. I do think we might be 1194 00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,960 Speaker 6: destined for the scorecards. But Angela Hill, if her Instagram 1195 00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:18,680 Speaker 6: is any indication, she physically is really turning over some 1196 00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:20,400 Speaker 6: new leafs. So we'll see how it goes. In the 1197 00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,440 Speaker 6: main event. We need a selection from Ian Parker Ip 1198 00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,160 Speaker 6: Watterson Hill pretty close on paper, who do you have? 1199 00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:28,120 Speaker 8: All right? 1200 00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,840 Speaker 11: So with this fight, this is a really interesting one. 1201 00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:34,400 Speaker 11: I also like Michelle Waterson here. I feel like we 1202 00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:36,279 Speaker 11: saw a lot of good things from Angela Hill against 1203 00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:40,440 Speaker 11: Claudia Gadesha. The only thing that if she didn't drop Claudia, 1204 00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:42,680 Speaker 11: I don't know if she gets that second round. 1205 00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:43,680 Speaker 8: The way Claudia was. 1206 00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:45,920 Speaker 11: Fighting, there's still hols in Angela's game. 1207 00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:47,920 Speaker 8: I just think that in that fight Claudia. 1208 00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:49,680 Speaker 11: Didn't use the ground game as much as she should, 1209 00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:52,360 Speaker 11: and I thought her cardio again suffered towards the end 1210 00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:53,640 Speaker 11: of the fight. Like a lot of the fights that 1211 00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:57,279 Speaker 11: Claudia has, Michelle Watterson doesn't get tired here. She has 1212 00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,439 Speaker 11: a very sufficient ground game. She has been in five 1213 00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:02,000 Speaker 11: round war, you know, and I think her stand up 1214 00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:05,160 Speaker 11: is a different style than Angela Hill has been fighting. 1215 00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,400 Speaker 8: She has not been fighting other women. 1216 00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:10,160 Speaker 11: That have been strong kickboxers with the karate style, and 1217 00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:11,640 Speaker 11: I think that could present the problem. 1218 00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:12,400 Speaker 8: I think that. 1219 00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,080 Speaker 11: Michelle Waterson needs to really use that pushkick. 1220 00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:16,759 Speaker 8: I think she needs to get the fight to the ground. 1221 00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,799 Speaker 11: I think at some point she will. I don't see 1222 00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:21,759 Speaker 11: either one finishing the other either. I'm not trying to 1223 00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:23,440 Speaker 11: just tail Kenny. Believe me, I really wanted to be. 1224 00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:25,399 Speaker 11: I was hoping he was going to go Angela Hill here. 1225 00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:26,359 Speaker 4: It really was. 1226 00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:29,960 Speaker 11: So I also like Michelle Waterson by decision. I think 1227 00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,920 Speaker 11: at both these the careers where they're meeting right now. 1228 00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:34,920 Speaker 8: This actually is a very smart matchup. 1229 00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:37,880 Speaker 6: And again it's September, it's one eleven, one oh nine, 1230 00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,400 Speaker 6: So you just, you know, stay in that lane of 1231 00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,359 Speaker 6: yours and try to fucking beat him head to head, right, 1232 00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:45,240 Speaker 6: don't you got You seem so concerned with what he's doing, 1233 00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:46,680 Speaker 6: like just lean into your own show. 1234 00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:48,200 Speaker 8: No, no, no, no, I'm not concerned. 1235 00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:49,800 Speaker 11: I just think at this point, I know how Kenny 1236 00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:52,719 Speaker 11: operates and I I thought that he was going to ride. 1237 00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:55,279 Speaker 8: With Angela Hill. Listen, I have my pick set up 1238 00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:56,440 Speaker 8: before the show happens. 1239 00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:56,920 Speaker 4: You know. 1240 00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,160 Speaker 11: The only time that I'll change something is if I 1241 00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:01,200 Speaker 11: know I can truly fuck myself, and then it's just 1242 00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,759 Speaker 11: not worth it, you know. So that's why I didn't 1243 00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:05,880 Speaker 11: twitch the rackets last week. If you would have hit 1244 00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,480 Speaker 11: Anthony Smith, that Neil Magni win would have meant shit. 1245 00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:10,920 Speaker 6: So all right, let's get your quick picks before we 1246 00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:14,239 Speaker 6: let you fly. Roosevelt Roberts minus won twenty, Matt Fravola 1247 00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:15,759 Speaker 6: even money. Who do you have there? 1248 00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:18,120 Speaker 8: This is a tough one. This is a real tough fight. 1249 00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:21,439 Speaker 11: I'm trying to not base Roosevelt Roberts over his last 1250 00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:23,480 Speaker 11: fight against Jim Miller, and for Vola has done really 1251 00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:25,400 Speaker 11: good against guys who are like six foot seven in 1252 00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:25,960 Speaker 11: the division. 1253 00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:29,000 Speaker 8: I just think that for Vola's. 1254 00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:32,680 Speaker 11: Aggressiveness in this may be his achilles heel in the situation, 1255 00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,360 Speaker 11: I think Roosevelt Roberts is the better technical striker. 1256 00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:37,440 Speaker 8: I think he's the faster guy. I'm not gonna look 1257 00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:38,240 Speaker 8: at Kenny because. 1258 00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:39,920 Speaker 11: He's awkwardly smiling to be right now, which means he's 1259 00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,879 Speaker 11: gonna go with Provola. I'm gonna go Roosevelt Roberts here 1260 00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:44,640 Speaker 11: in this one. 1261 00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:47,160 Speaker 6: And so Roberts or for Vola for you, bro I 1262 00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:53,320 Speaker 6: was laughing at your long quick pick. And then Andrea 1263 00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:57,520 Speaker 6: Leeve minus three ten versus Roxanne Moda Ferry, who's plus 1264 00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:59,880 Speaker 6: two fifty five? And who do you have there? Andrew 1265 00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:06,680 Speaker 6: Lee for you as well? I assume flow Lee Andrea 1266 00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,960 Speaker 6: Lee all right, A couple of picks there for Andrea K. G. 1267 00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:11,200 Speaker 4: B Lee. 1268 00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:13,239 Speaker 6: All right, Ian Parker, It's always good to see your 1269 00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,879 Speaker 6: smiling face, my man. We will talk to you next week. 1270 00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:19,160 Speaker 6: Big one. Next week fourteen fights at least five picks 1271 00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:22,040 Speaker 6: from you guys for coming to excuse me? Is it 1272 00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:25,240 Speaker 6: Covington versus Woodley or Wodley versus coving Yes, Covington versus Woodley. 1273 00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:28,520 Speaker 6: Colby has the red corner, Ian Parker, I salute your 1274 00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:29,080 Speaker 6: ass man. 1275 00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:32,759 Speaker 4: I salute yours too, John all Right. 1276 00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:34,520 Speaker 6: Ian Parker with us every week here on the Anti 1277 00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:38,040 Speaker 6: Chlorian Podcast. All Right, Big things happening in the United 1278 00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:41,120 Speaker 6: States of America. On Thursday, the NFL season gets underway, 1279 00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:42,799 Speaker 6: one of the most exciting weeks of the year for 1280 00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,840 Speaker 6: US Americans and increasingly for our friends in England and 1281 00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:49,280 Speaker 6: even Australia. Of course several other countries I haven't mentioned. 1282 00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:51,160 Speaker 6: There are a lot of NFL fans in India, I 1283 00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:55,280 Speaker 6: think as well. So I am contractually prevented from picking 1284 00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:58,080 Speaker 6: MMA fights, betting on MMA fights. I'm not prevented from 1285 00:56:58,120 --> 00:56:59,440 Speaker 6: doing that in the NFL. So we have a good 1286 00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:02,520 Speaker 6: segment for you over the next seventeen weeks. Me versus 1287 00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:04,840 Speaker 6: Cody Merrow. Let's get to the Pick to Click. 1288 00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:10,000 Speaker 3: Time now for the pick to Click, the pic to Click. 1289 00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:11,680 Speaker 6: All I have to do is bet on the winner 1290 00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:14,520 Speaker 6: and I'll never lose clutch. 1291 00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:16,680 Speaker 3: John Annak and Kenny Florian podcast. 1292 00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:19,280 Speaker 6: All right, The Pick to Click is brought to you 1293 00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:21,440 Speaker 6: by oddshark dot com. Odd Shark is your source for 1294 00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:24,240 Speaker 6: the latest odds from leading authorities, expert editorial content, and 1295 00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,320 Speaker 6: detailed matchup picks with expert in depth analysis for each game. 1296 00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:29,760 Speaker 6: They're free statistics, numbers and trends. We'll help you make 1297 00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:31,640 Speaker 6: the shark picks on game day. Head over to odd 1298 00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:35,520 Speaker 6: shark and start playing like a shark today. Oddshark dot Com. 1299 00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:38,320 Speaker 6: Don't forget the second s. All right, So here's what 1300 00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:40,720 Speaker 6: we're gonna do during the NFL season. Our producer Cody 1301 00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:43,720 Speaker 6: Merrow now joins us live He and I or He's 1302 00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:45,760 Speaker 6: gonna give you one play each week. We'll go head 1303 00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:48,440 Speaker 6: to head, and after the seventeen week regular season and 1304 00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:51,800 Speaker 6: the playoffs, the loser has to take five shots on 1305 00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,400 Speaker 6: the air of an alcohol of the winners choosing, and 1306 00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:56,480 Speaker 6: those five shots have to be consumed within the first 1307 00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:59,800 Speaker 6: twenty minutes of the broadcast. So no BOOKCARDI one fifty one. 1308 00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:01,760 Speaker 6: I don't know what you guys who were born in 1309 00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:04,680 Speaker 6: the nineteen nineties are drinking these days, but nothing over 1310 00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:08,200 Speaker 6: ninety five proof. I mean, if I drink five shots 1311 00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:10,160 Speaker 6: of Tangay in twenty minutes, I'll be blacked out on 1312 00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:10,800 Speaker 6: the air copy. 1313 00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:13,440 Speaker 5: I mean, John, we got seventeen weeks, right, I mean, 1314 00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:16,200 Speaker 5: we can get a bookie over at Patron Maybe you know, 1315 00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:18,800 Speaker 5: we'll get some tequila or maybe some tere monto. 1316 00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:21,560 Speaker 6: We know a guy. We do know a guy, Tara Manta, 1317 00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:24,320 Speaker 6: maybe Cosamigos. We'll see. We'll figure all that out, but 1318 00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:27,080 Speaker 6: we need a pick to click from you today. Obviously, 1319 00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:30,360 Speaker 6: everything begins on Thursday night the Texans at the Chiefs, 1320 00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:32,760 Speaker 6: but what's the game that jumps off the slate for 1321 00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:34,080 Speaker 6: you in Week one? 1322 00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:36,240 Speaker 5: Well, John, I feel like I'm picking some low hanging 1323 00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:39,840 Speaker 5: fruit here because the Washington football team, they don't even 1324 00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:41,560 Speaker 5: have a real name. How can they be prepared to 1325 00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:44,360 Speaker 5: start this season. I absolutely love the Philly minus six 1326 00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:47,360 Speaker 5: coming in on this game. Carson Wentz's biggest problem historically, 1327 00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:50,000 Speaker 5: it's been his health. No concerns about that coming in 1328 00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:52,640 Speaker 5: on game one. I also really like the continuity you 1329 00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:55,600 Speaker 5: get with Doug Peterson versus Ron Rivera. Rivera's had health 1330 00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:58,200 Speaker 5: issues this offseason his first year with the team at 1331 00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:01,560 Speaker 5: it on top of the organizational issue Christer fire over 1332 00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:04,080 Speaker 5: in Washington, I really don't love it. I have to 1333 00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:06,520 Speaker 5: acknowledge the fact that the Eagles are one in six 1334 00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:09,080 Speaker 5: in their last seven games in September against the spread, 1335 00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:11,520 Speaker 5: but I'm just gonna completely wash that one away because 1336 00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:14,160 Speaker 5: Washington's zero to five against the spread against their last 1337 00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:18,080 Speaker 5: five division opponents. So NFC East is only two teams 1338 00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:19,400 Speaker 5: that are going to win that division. I think you're 1339 00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:21,400 Speaker 5: seeing one here. So I like Philly minus. 1340 00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,520 Speaker 6: Six, and you've identified one of the games that you 1341 00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:25,360 Speaker 6: believe will be a blowout. I think that's part of 1342 00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:27,800 Speaker 6: the challenge early on for me. There are always gonna 1343 00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:30,080 Speaker 6: be some blowouts, but how do you identify what they're 1344 00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:32,880 Speaker 6: gonna be, and how are the home road split's gonna 1345 00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:34,880 Speaker 6: shake out with no fans? How much of an impact 1346 00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:37,000 Speaker 6: does that have. I mean, you know, in Minnesota, they're 1347 00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:38,680 Speaker 6: still going to be pumping in all the sound that 1348 00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:42,000 Speaker 6: is legal right up until that line. But it's gonna 1349 00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:45,360 Speaker 6: be interesting. I tend to like home underdogs all season long, 1350 00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:47,320 Speaker 6: and that's where I'm gonna begin. I thought about Atlanta 1351 00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:49,560 Speaker 6: getting a point and a half home to Seattle, but 1352 00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:51,760 Speaker 6: I'm gonna take the La Rams plus three home against 1353 00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:54,880 Speaker 6: the Dallas Cowboys. I do like the head coach. I 1354 00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:57,760 Speaker 6: do think there's an advantage in terms of the staff 1355 00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:00,880 Speaker 6: for the Los Angeles Rams. Big picture, I'm bullish on 1356 01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:02,560 Speaker 6: the Cowboys this year. I have a future on them 1357 01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:03,760 Speaker 6: to win the Super Bowl. I think they have a 1358 01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:05,640 Speaker 6: great chance to come out of the NFC. But I'm 1359 01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:07,400 Speaker 6: not in the business of laying three with the Cowboys 1360 01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:09,040 Speaker 6: in Week one. So my pick to click for Week 1361 01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:13,080 Speaker 6: one will be the Los Angeles Rams catching three at 1362 01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:16,520 Speaker 6: home against the Dallas Cowboys. All right, Anna Florian podcast 1363 01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:18,400 Speaker 6: dot com is live. If you want to buy merchandise 1364 01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:21,920 Speaker 6: links to do so is there. Hopefully everybody isn't just 1365 01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:24,320 Speaker 6: buying all the Ray logo stuff, right ca. You imagine 1366 01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:26,760 Speaker 6: if if that's what happens, Cody's like gay or fucking 1367 01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:30,080 Speaker 6: sold out of the Longo stuff. But the John Annagood 1368 01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:34,920 Speaker 6: Yeah right exactly, the John Annick Yo Later T shirt. 1369 01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:38,840 Speaker 6: We've sold three. All right, So next week we will 1370 01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:41,960 Speaker 6: be joined by the greatest living American, Brian stan We're 1371 01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:44,320 Speaker 6: gonna get his thoughts on the state of the world 1372 01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:47,640 Speaker 6: right now, the upcoming election. He's gonna convince me not 1373 01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:50,040 Speaker 6: to write in his name and probably vote for for 1374 01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:53,040 Speaker 6: Biden or Trump. We'll get his thoughts though on the UFC, 1375 01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:55,840 Speaker 6: of course most importantly and the Middleway title fight. That 1376 01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:57,200 Speaker 6: was the reason for the book, and I want to 1377 01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:59,640 Speaker 6: hear what he has to say on Autosania Costa as 1378 01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:02,880 Speaker 6: big a fight as this promotion can put together at present. 1379 01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:05,840 Speaker 6: All right, thanks to our guests, Ray long Ago, Ian Parker, 1380 01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:10,000 Speaker 6: this has been a Veracity Media Group production. Cody Merrill 1381 01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:13,360 Speaker 6: or executive producer Kat Low, great stuff, my man, appreciate 1382 01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:16,400 Speaker 6: your early start. We will talk to all of you 1383 01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:19,560 Speaker 6: in less than seven days. Until then, don't text and drive, 1384 01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:23,160 Speaker 6: try to wear your mask pat militant. If you're listening, 1385 01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:24,840 Speaker 6: I'm sorry. I'm just, you know, trying to be a 1386 01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:27,200 Speaker 6: good guy for the great and good. We'll talk to 1387 01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:43,800 Speaker 6: you guys next week. Until then, be safe, be healthy,