WEBVTT - #749 Packers Unscripted: Champs come calling

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from

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<v Speaker 1>Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spaffer, joined as always

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<v Speaker 1>by my trusted colleague Weston Hadco. It's coming to you

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<v Speaker 1>hear from our studios at lambeau Field and West lambeau

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<v Speaker 1>Field will be the host location of Sunday Night Football.

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<v Speaker 1>We are here to talk about the Packers against the

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<v Speaker 1>defending Super Bowl champion Kansas City Chiefs. It's a big

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<v Speaker 1>one for both teams. The Packers have gotten themselves back

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<v Speaker 1>in the mix a little bit here in the NFC.

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<v Speaker 1>The Chiefs are chasing that loan first round. By that

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<v Speaker 1>only the number one seed in each conference gets under

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<v Speaker 1>the lights. And maybe they'll be a superstar in a

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<v Speaker 1>music superstar in a lambeau suite somewhere. I guess we'll

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<v Speaker 1>find that out at some point. But this is about football,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is gonna be a really, really exciting, entertaining

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<v Speaker 1>and highlyticipated game.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know something I don't know about Mick jaggerbying

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<v Speaker 2>here or something? I got jokes? Bad dad jokes.

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<v Speaker 1>Swifty Night Football is what some people might be calling this.

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<v Speaker 2>That's me, but you know, I get it, understand it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a part of it. I enjoy Taylor Swift music.

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<v Speaker 2>But I got some goosebumps in the locker room on Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 2>and it had nothing to do with Travis Kelce or

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<v Speaker 2>Taylor Swift or pop culture. Had to do with John Runyan.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was pushing you big on the John Runyan Press,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the press scrum yesterday. But Runyon had a

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<v Speaker 2>moment near the end of his scrum where he got

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<v Speaker 2>to talking about Sunday night football and Sunday night football

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<v Speaker 2>specifically in the month of December. And the thing that

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<v Speaker 2>he sort of have to remember is his first two

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<v Speaker 2>years here, NFC Championship game, Big year in twenty twenty one,

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<v Speaker 2>number one seed, a lot of Sunday night action. And

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<v Speaker 2>he said, you know, there's a lot of young guys

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<v Speaker 2>in the scene that haven't felt it yet. But there

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<v Speaker 2>is something special when you walk out on land Field

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<v Speaker 2>and you see your breath, you get those kind of chills,

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<v Speaker 2>those fall late fall, early winter vibes. Yeah, and there's

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<v Speaker 2>something that just brings it adia and him doing that

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<v Speaker 2>it almost kind of to me was like when people

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<v Speaker 2>describe like baking a cake or you know, Thanksgiving dinner

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<v Speaker 2>like it almost. It got me revd up because this

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<v Speaker 2>game in it itself, it sells itself. Yeah, Green Bay Packers,

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<v Speaker 2>surging offense, coming together five and six, very much alive

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<v Speaker 2>now in this playoff hunt. And then the Kansas City Chiefs.

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<v Speaker 2>I think when you look at marketability branding, this team

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<v Speaker 2>is the face of the National Football League, defending Super

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<v Speaker 2>Bowl champions And it's not just Patrick Mahomes, it's the

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<v Speaker 2>guys that have gotten the light put on them. Beyond that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I think of a guy like Chris Jones.

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<v Speaker 2>I think of, you know, these players that have been

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<v Speaker 2>making an impact, but more importantly have been winning football games.

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<v Speaker 2>So as you talk to me about this and we

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<v Speaker 2>preview this game here coming up, I'm just so excited

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<v Speaker 2>to be back in December and obviously have a very

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<v Speaker 2>meaningful football game in front of us.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, looking at the Kansas City Chiefs and the

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<v Speaker 1>season that they have had coming off of their second

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<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl title in the last handful of years. They

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<v Speaker 1>started off with a loss in that Thursday night kickoff

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<v Speaker 1>opener to the Detroit Lions, but then they bounced back

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<v Speaker 1>from that. They won six games in a row. They

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<v Speaker 1>were six and one. But now They've lost two of

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<v Speaker 1>their last four. Now. Granted, one of those was a

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<v Speaker 1>big Monday night game, you know, under the lights against

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<v Speaker 1>the Philadelphia Eagles, the top seed in the NFC. Really

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<v Speaker 1>good game, came right down to the wire. Those kind

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<v Speaker 1>of things happened. But there have been a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>questions about the Chiefs offense this year because it hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>been the explosive point producing machine that it has been

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<v Speaker 1>under Patrick Mahomes with Patrick Mahomes at the Helm in

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<v Speaker 1>recent years. But I tell you what, Wes you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I know the Raiders have had, you know, their share

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<v Speaker 1>of ups and downs and everything this year, and they

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<v Speaker 1>have the coaching situation going on there and all that.

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<v Speaker 1>But the Chiefs last week, they were behind fourteen to

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<v Speaker 1>nothing out of the gate to the Las Vegas Raiders,

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<v Speaker 1>and they ended up winning that game in a runaway.

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<v Speaker 1>They scored four touchdowns in a span of five possessions

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<v Speaker 1>and absolutely blew out the Raiders. After a slow start.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the Chiefs are getting to where they're answering

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<v Speaker 1>some questions about the offense and getting to where maybe

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<v Speaker 1>this offense is going to start revving up for the

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<v Speaker 1>stretch run. Right when and where Kansas City wants it to,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is going to be a big time challenge

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<v Speaker 1>for Green Bay's defense to slow these guys down.

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<v Speaker 2>The Chiefs are in an interesting position in two different ways. One,

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<v Speaker 2>you obviously want to win as many games as you can,

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<v Speaker 2>you want the number one seed. But I think from

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<v Speaker 2>Kansas City's perspective, with as much confidence as they have

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<v Speaker 2>in Patrick Mahomes and that defense, they're thinking more about

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<v Speaker 2>how do we set ourselves up here to propel ourselves

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<v Speaker 2>into the postseason to try to make this back to

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<v Speaker 2>back run. But when I look scifically at the offense

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<v Speaker 2>and I look at Mahomes in this thing, in a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of ways, Mike, it sort of even reminds me

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<v Speaker 2>of those Brett Farve years after the Super Bowl, after

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Holmgren, where it was like you knew you had

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<v Speaker 2>Brett Farv. You might not have known all the other

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<v Speaker 2>names around him, but you had Brett Farv and you

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<v Speaker 2>were going to be able to score points, and you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to have production, maybe a few too many interceptions

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<v Speaker 2>for your liking, but you're going to move the football

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<v Speaker 2>with no disrespect to him. But the Antonio Chapmans of

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<v Speaker 2>the world, sure not to say the kansadate's in that predicament,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's Travis Kelcey and it's a wide variety of

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<v Speaker 2>receivers that are around him. There is not a Tyreek

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<v Speaker 2>Hill that's going to command one hundred and ten receptions.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to be a little bit of sky More,

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to be a little bit of mvs and

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<v Speaker 2>obviously the Rashi Rice who's coming on here for them

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<v Speaker 2>lately as well. Yeah, and they're all dangerous. That's my

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<v Speaker 2>main takeaway from where they're sitting right now is you

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<v Speaker 2>can't take them for granted in that because, as Kenny

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<v Speaker 2>Clark was discussing strictly speaking with Patrick Mahomes, he's one

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<v Speaker 2>of the rare quarterbacks that can beat you from the

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<v Speaker 2>pocket and with his feet, and when those two things

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<v Speaker 2>come together, it makes it really difficult in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>a defense trying to contain that weapon for four quarters.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's interesting. I did a little bit of research

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<v Speaker 1>with regard to Mahomes because he is he is the

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<v Speaker 1>offense's second leading rusher Kansas City behind Pacheco, who has

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<v Speaker 1>I believe it's six hundred and sixty nine yards and

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<v Speaker 1>five touchdowns. That's correct. But what I did is is

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<v Speaker 1>with Mahomes being the second leading rusher on the team,

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<v Speaker 1>he's officially he's averaging five point eight yards per carry.

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<v Speaker 1>But I went back through the Chiefs play by plays

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<v Speaker 1>and counted up all of the end of game, end

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<v Speaker 1>of half, or end of game usually end of game

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<v Speaker 1>kneel downs by Mahomes, And when you take those out,

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<v Speaker 1>he's had fifteen kneel downs for minus seventeen yards this season.

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<v Speaker 1>If you take those out, he's averaging eight point five

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<v Speaker 1>yards every time he takes off and scrambles. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>chain moving scrambler, is what that is. He You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he can absolutely kill you on third downs where you

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<v Speaker 1>can defend that offense for five or six or even

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<v Speaker 1>seven seconds as well as you could possibly defend Kelsey

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<v Speaker 1>and Rashie Rice and MVS and all these other guys,

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<v Speaker 1>and then Mahomes will still find a way to move

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<v Speaker 1>the chains because when he takes off, he finds a lane,

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<v Speaker 1>he maybe makes a guy miss, he has the angle

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<v Speaker 1>just to get to that first down marker. That's where

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<v Speaker 1>where I think this Packers defense that has certainly shown

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<v Speaker 1>some growth and some progress. You know, yes, there was

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<v Speaker 1>there was some bad run defense against Pittsburgh, but Kenny

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<v Speaker 1>Pickett didn't do a whole lot in that game. The

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<v Speaker 1>Packers contain Jared Goff. They haven't faced a quarterback like this,

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<v Speaker 1>who who can be so dangerous when you defend the

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<v Speaker 1>offense so well. And I think that's gonna be something

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<v Speaker 1>to keep an eye on come Sunday night.

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<v Speaker 2>Something else I thought was really funny. You were the

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<v Speaker 2>one to bring it to light for me about how

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<v Speaker 2>much at the end of these second quarters they've been scoring.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, well, that's and that when I was doing

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<v Speaker 1>the research on the kneel downs, I'm looking through their

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<v Speaker 1>play by plays, and it's like, every time I look

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<v Speaker 1>at the second quarter, I'm like, oh, the Chiefs scored again.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you scored like, you know, a field goal on

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<v Speaker 1>the last play of the half or a touchdown with

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<v Speaker 1>five seconds left in the first half. That's the other

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<v Speaker 1>thing I was going to bring up because that prompted

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<v Speaker 1>me to look up another statistic.

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<v Speaker 2>The Chiefs have.

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<v Speaker 1>Scored more than half of their points of the entire

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<v Speaker 1>season in the second quarter. Yeah, one hundred and thirty

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<v Speaker 1>two of their two hundred and fifty six points have

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<v Speaker 1>come in the second quarter. To be this many games

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<v Speaker 1>into the season and to have more than half your

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<v Speaker 1>points in one quarter of play, that's like almost unheard of.

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<v Speaker 1>It's uncanny. But so the point is, if the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>and Jordan Love and the offense, if they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>put together a you know, fifteen play ten minute scoring drive,

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<v Speaker 1>make it in the second quarter, so Mahomes doesn't have

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<v Speaker 1>quite so many chances to score points. Anyway, I'm sorry

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<v Speaker 1>I interrupted you. We're going to make a point.

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<v Speaker 2>That was basically my point. I mean, just to quickly

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<v Speaker 2>put this out there. One hundred and thirty two points

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<v Speaker 2>in the second quarter. The Jets have one hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>sixty three for the season. I mean, this is a

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<v Speaker 2>unit that plays well and it plays to its strengths.

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<v Speaker 2>And if I may just to kind of give you

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<v Speaker 2>another preview of when you have confidence and you have

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<v Speaker 2>a core in a nucleus with their offense, defense, and

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<v Speaker 2>special teams. Last week we were talking with Detroit about

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<v Speaker 2>how Green Bay got off to that fast start and

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<v Speaker 2>they used the complimentary phase of football to basically ice

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<v Speaker 2>it right. Kansas City, look at some of these statistics

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<v Speaker 2>on them, Mike. They've returned five kickoffs this season. They

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<v Speaker 2>don't return kickoffs. They don't return kickoffs. I mean when

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<v Speaker 2>you look at Travis kelce Travis kelcey seventy receptions for

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<v Speaker 2>seven or and thirty two yards, five touchdowns. The guy's

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<v Speaker 2>thirty three to thirty four years old now at this

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<v Speaker 2>point in his career. I made the case an insider inbox.

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<v Speaker 2>In my money, he does this for another two three years.

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<v Speaker 2>You're talking about the greatest tight end of all time. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>with all due respect to Tony Gonzalez, another great Kansas

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<v Speaker 2>City Chief But defensively, they have six takeaways in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of interceptions, Like, there are ways to beat Kansas City,

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<v Speaker 2>and if you look at the games in which they've

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<v Speaker 2>lost this year, the three of them, it's because of

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<v Speaker 2>those things getting away from them. So for as dynamic

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<v Speaker 2>as they are, I don't want to call them predictable

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<v Speaker 2>because that'd be doing a disservice to all this. But

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<v Speaker 2>there is a very clear blueprint for how you beat

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<v Speaker 2>the Chiefs. The question for the Packers is can you

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<v Speaker 2>play to that level in order to achieve it? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean when you look on the other side of

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<v Speaker 1>the ball, this Kansas City Chiefs defense, and I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>pretending to be an expert on the Chiefs and this

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<v Speaker 1>run they've had.

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<v Speaker 2>With you before we walked in here, you told me

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<v Speaker 2>you were an expert on the Chiefs and this run

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<v Speaker 2>that they're currently on.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, no, I'm not okay, But this run that includes

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<v Speaker 1>two Super Bowl championships, three AFC championships in the last

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<v Speaker 1>handful of years, this might be. This might be the

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<v Speaker 1>best defense that they've had. During this run. They are

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<v Speaker 1>third in the league in points allowed, fourth in the

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<v Speaker 1>league in yards allowed. They've reacked up thirty seven sacks.

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Spagnolo, this defense is all about generating pressure on

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<v Speaker 1>the quarterback, getting you into you know, the tough down

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<v Speaker 1>in distances that force you to throw, and then Spagnola

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<v Speaker 1>will dial up, you know, these exotic looks, these crazy blitzes,

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<v Speaker 1>and make you react to them on the fly. George

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<v Speaker 1>Karloftis leads the defense with eight sacks of those thirty seven.

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<v Speaker 1>But the engine in the middle of that defense is

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Jones. You mentioned his name before. He has seven

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<v Speaker 1>and a half sacks, but that doesn't even begin to

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<v Speaker 1>illustrate what he means to this Chiefs defense. He is

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<v Speaker 1>a massive, massive dude in the middle of that defensive line.

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<v Speaker 1>And even sometimes as big as he is, they'll still

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<v Speaker 1>line him up almost more in an in an ad

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<v Speaker 1>rushing position or even a five technique type of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not necessarily on the interior all the time, but man,

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<v Speaker 1>he is a handful and and he you know, he

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<v Speaker 1>just he plugs up the middle, run and pass and

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<v Speaker 1>gets after the quarterback. Like you know, he's like an

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Donald in a sense. But he's but he's Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>Donald with a heck of a lot more size and

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<v Speaker 1>h and just a guy that you have to game

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<v Speaker 1>plan for. And I'm very curious to see how the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers can handle him on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and he's not like he's six six three forty.

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<v Speaker 2>He's about six six three fifteen in that range. And

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to see the difference in that Kansas

0:12:40.280 --> 0:12:43.400
<v Speaker 2>City defense, and when we talk about like quarterbacks, right MVPs,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, what do the Chiefs look like without Patrick Mahomes?

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<v Speaker 2>What do the Miami Dolphins look like without Tua? Look

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<v Speaker 2>at what this Kansas City defense looked like and against

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<v Speaker 2>Detroit in Week one when Jones was still holding out,

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<v Speaker 2>different unit. This guy is the playmaker He is the centerpiece.

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<v Speaker 2>He is everything. When you talk about defensive line play

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<v Speaker 2>and versatility, he exudes all of it. And as I

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<v Speaker 2>was talking with Kenny clarkabouk because one of the questions

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<v Speaker 2>I asked Kenny on Wednesday was you know how much

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<v Speaker 2>he studies other defensive tackles, And he studies them all,

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<v Speaker 2>and he isolated three things with him that stand out.

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<v Speaker 2>It is the size. It obviously is the length, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's the hands. And when you are that big and

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<v Speaker 2>you can keep people off of you the way that

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<v Speaker 2>he does, it doesn't matter if you're getting triple teams.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes the guy's violent enough with his hands that it

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<v Speaker 2>makes it very difficult for another three hundred pound human

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<v Speaker 2>being to stay in front of him for any sustained

0:13:41.160 --> 0:13:44.320
<v Speaker 2>amount of time. Chiefs did the right thing. Things did

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<v Speaker 2>not go well defensively against the Lions. They missed Chris

0:13:47.559 --> 0:13:50.199
<v Speaker 2>Jones in that game. They took care of him financially,

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<v Speaker 2>they found a way to make it work, and since

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<v Speaker 2>he's been back, he's been exceptional. I'll just throw out

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<v Speaker 2>there too, George KARLOFTI, even though I'm not a scalp

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<v Speaker 2>by any means, he was one of my favorite guys

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<v Speaker 2>from the draft a couple of.

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<v Speaker 1>Years ago coming out of Purdue.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's developed into more of an all around pass rusher.

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<v Speaker 2>That's been the biggest difference I think I've seen with

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<v Speaker 2>him this season. Yes, he gets the sacks, but he's

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<v Speaker 2>doing a little bit more of the little things too,

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<v Speaker 2>with that linebacker corps behind them. When you talk about

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<v Speaker 2>front sevens, I think right now in the National Football League,

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<v Speaker 2>Kansas City's as good as they come, regardless of how

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<v Speaker 2>much Steve Spagnolo is pressuring.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely, this is a defense that has proven tough

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<v Speaker 1>to beat throughout the course of the season. One other

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<v Speaker 1>note I'll throw out there with regard to the Chiefs

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<v Speaker 1>on special teams, Harrison, Butker hasn't missed a kick all season.

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<v Speaker 1>He's twenty eight out of twenty eight on his extra points,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's twenty out of twenty on field goals, a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of those being from fifty six and from sixty yards,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not like he's perfect on field goals with

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<v Speaker 1>just a bunch of thirty five yards. And in kicks

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<v Speaker 1>he's made some long ones. Yeah, so a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>really long ones. And he's a big piece of this

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<v Speaker 1>Chiefs team as well as I said the number of times,

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<v Speaker 1>and I wish I had actually counted it up because

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<v Speaker 1>I was obviously working on another statistic. I wish I

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<v Speaker 1>had counted it up when I was looking at it.

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<v Speaker 1>The number of times that Harrison Bucker has made a

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<v Speaker 1>field goal on the last play of the first half

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<v Speaker 1>is crazy. This year. It's it's happened. I would I'd

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<v Speaker 1>be willing to bet it's happened at least six or

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<v Speaker 1>seven times in their eleven games based on when I

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<v Speaker 1>was going back through their.

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<v Speaker 2>Play You just look at the special teams coordinator, the

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<v Speaker 2>unit that they put together there with Town said, the operation.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all consistent. It's you know what you're getting day

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<v Speaker 2>in and day out with it, and they've been doing

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<v Speaker 2>it together for years. And correct me if I'm wrong here. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't researching this as thoroughly as you did. But

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<v Speaker 2>I think Buckner even had an injury earlier this year

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<v Speaker 2>that he might have been playing through a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it could be.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm not I'm not entirely familiar with what his

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<v Speaker 1>situation was.

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<v Speaker 2>Help was being able to be as consistent as he's

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<v Speaker 2>been and be putting some of those situations and embrace

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<v Speaker 2>it the way he has. We're entering this stretch mic

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<v Speaker 2>where you're you're getting You don't, you don't, you don't

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<v Speaker 2>expect perfection, But it seems like NFL teams are it

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<v Speaker 2>more now from their yeahers Yeah, and with somebody like Bucketer, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and with how many opportunities you're gonna get when Patrick

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<v Speaker 2>Mahomes is your quarterback. You need a good kicker in Kansas.

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<v Speaker 2>Kansas City certainly has one. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you mentioned earlier there's a blueprint to beat the

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<v Speaker 1>Kansas City Chiefs. I want to give you a chance

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, it's keys to victory time. You mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>the blueprint outline it for us. How do the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>win this football game?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, coach Wes Hodkwitz over here with my middle school

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<v Speaker 2>background in football, No, there's three things that I see

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<v Speaker 2>with this. One is as dangerous as Kansas City is.

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<v Speaker 2>They are erratic, and they've had big drops this season.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't mean to throw mvs under the bus with that,

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<v Speaker 2>but certainly you go back a couple weeks ago and

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<v Speaker 2>that was the difference between a win and a loss

0:17:13.240 --> 0:17:16.640
<v Speaker 2>for them. They can hurt you, but they're gonna give

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<v Speaker 2>you some chances. They're minus five right now on turnover

0:17:20.359 --> 0:17:22.080
<v Speaker 2>margin for the season. I think that ranks like twenty

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<v Speaker 2>fourth in the National Football League.

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<v Speaker 1>That's amazing to be minus five and turnovers and be

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<v Speaker 1>eight and three.

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<v Speaker 2>That means here, what do you gotta do If defense

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<v Speaker 2>gets the opportunities, you have to convert them into points.

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<v Speaker 2>And Lastly, for as much as this is always going

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<v Speaker 2>to be about Mahomes, Kelsey and these weapons, the run

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<v Speaker 2>game is such an interesting part of this equation. For

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<v Speaker 2>Kansas City, Isaiah Pacheco was a fantastic find for them,

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<v Speaker 2>and late in the rounds, I believe there was a

0:17:46.520 --> 0:17:48.600
<v Speaker 2>local scout here from Green Bay. That was the one

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<v Speaker 2>that was responsible for that a number of years ago

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<v Speaker 2>for Kansas City. But when they don't run the football,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the blueprint. When you can stop them from having

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<v Speaker 2>success and putting them in third and law, that's the blueprint.

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<v Speaker 2>Watch any of the losses that they've had this season,

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<v Speaker 2>that's when they get in bad situations. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Kadarius Tony had a really rough game you know, earlier

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<v Speaker 2>this season under those circumstances when we're trying to convert

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<v Speaker 2>third and lungs and drop passes turned in interceptions and

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<v Speaker 2>in some cases I believe a pick six. So stopping Pacheco,

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<v Speaker 2>stopping you know, whoever they throw at you, whether it's

0:18:20.480 --> 0:18:23.200
<v Speaker 2>McKinnon or Edwards Hilaire, just being able to make sure

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<v Speaker 2>they don't get as much room as possible they're keep

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<v Speaker 2>them in third and lungs. Yes, this will game will

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<v Speaker 2>be in Matt Patrick Mahomes' hands. It's just the way

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<v Speaker 2>that this thing goes. Yeah, but you don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>make his life any easier. I hope I answered your question.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you did. And for me, I the two things

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<v Speaker 1>that stand out to me in this game. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>looking at keys to victory for the Packers. The first

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<v Speaker 1>one is it's all about protection, protection of Jordan Love.

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<v Speaker 1>And I say that not just because of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the game two years ago in Kansas City, when you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when Love was thrown in there, when Rogers had COVID

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<v Speaker 1>and he had just a couple of days to prepare,

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<v Speaker 1>and then Spagnolo blitz the heck out of the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, kind of wrecked their offense really for

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<v Speaker 1>three and a half quarters. It's not because of that,

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<v Speaker 1>it's because of how this twenty twenty three Chiefs defense

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<v Speaker 1>is playing. Because watching, for example, the Monday Night game

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of weeks ago against the Philadelphia Eagles, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a Super Bowl rematch and everything, and a super Bowl

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<v Speaker 1>that was very high scoring, that game became a defensive

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<v Speaker 1>slog for a while. The Chiefs were not doing much offensively,

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<v Speaker 1>but that defense was making life really difficult for a

0:19:32.320 --> 0:19:36.159
<v Speaker 1>while for Jalen Hurts and that Eagles offense because of

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<v Speaker 1>the pressure up front. Because of all of the disruption,

0:19:39.800 --> 0:19:42.320
<v Speaker 1>the Packers have done a really good job in recent

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<v Speaker 1>weeks against Aaron Donald, against TJ. Watt, against Khalil Mack

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<v Speaker 1>and then obviously this last game against Aiden Hutchinson. These

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<v Speaker 1>are the elite of the elite, and Chris Jones is

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<v Speaker 1>another guy who ranks right up there, and the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>have to continue what they've been doing to neutralize that

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<v Speaker 1>guy in the opponent's defensive front who is the most

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<v Speaker 1>disruptive and has the most potential to wreck what you're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>The other thing for me, aside from the protection of

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan Love in this game, then, is just to limit

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<v Speaker 1>the big plays defensively the Chiefs. The Chiefs have shown

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<v Speaker 1>this year they can put together ten, eleven, twelve play

0:20:28.680 --> 0:20:32.000
<v Speaker 1>drives and go down the field and score. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>what you have to make them do because if they

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<v Speaker 1>hit you for the big plays and they score quickly,

0:20:37.640 --> 0:20:40.040
<v Speaker 1>then that is when their point total can get up

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<v Speaker 1>into the twenty eight and the thirty one and the

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<v Speaker 1>thirty four point range. And I don't think the Packers

0:20:45.040 --> 0:20:46.600
<v Speaker 1>want to get into that kind of a game with

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<v Speaker 1>the Kansas City Chiefs. Limit the big plays, make them

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<v Speaker 1>go the distance. Maybe they make a mistake. They are

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<v Speaker 1>playing on the road. You know, we'll see what the

0:20:54.760 --> 0:20:57.800
<v Speaker 1>weather is like and everything like that. On Sunday night,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you gotta tap Travis Kelcey. As soon as

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<v Speaker 1>he catches the ball, you can't let him turn six

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<v Speaker 1>yard passes into sixteen eighteen yard games with broken tackles.

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<v Speaker 1>That kind of thing is what I'm talking about in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of limiting the big place. So for me, those

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<v Speaker 1>are the two things at the top of my list.

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<v Speaker 1>Protection and cutting down on explosives.

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<v Speaker 2>And if there was ever a game for the Green

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<v Speaker 2>Bay Packers to get back some of these injured players

0:21:20.040 --> 0:21:21.639
<v Speaker 2>on the defensive side of the ball, this is the

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<v Speaker 2>one because you know, I give a lot of credit

0:21:24.000 --> 0:21:26.919
<v Speaker 2>to Isaiah McDuffie for how has stood in there this

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<v Speaker 2>season for absolute Walker and Campbell. But if Devondre Campbell

0:21:30.480 --> 0:21:32.960
<v Speaker 2>and Kay Walker are both out there, that makes life

0:21:33.080 --> 0:21:36.080
<v Speaker 2>easier if you're in base against the Travis Kelcey, if

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<v Speaker 2>you have Darnell Savage there, if you potentially you know where.

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<v Speaker 2>However this shakes out at cornerback, there is a domino

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<v Speaker 2>effect to the rest of it. With Jyry Alexander. So

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<v Speaker 2>I just think it's a critical game and it's a

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<v Speaker 2>big moment for Green Bay. I have implored people my

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<v Speaker 2>biggest message in this thing is regardless of what the

0:21:55.320 --> 0:21:58.240
<v Speaker 2>outcome is, maybe other than a tie. But regardless of

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<v Speaker 2>the outcome, win or lose, you can't get too high

0:22:00.880 --> 0:22:03.840
<v Speaker 2>or too low with this. Yep, the Packers win it,

0:22:03.840 --> 0:22:07.119
<v Speaker 2>it's not the super Bowl. The Packers lose it. You

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<v Speaker 2>have five games coming up here, and honestly, Mike more

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<v Speaker 2>I look at this thing. I think it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>take seven good victories to make the playoffs. The Packers

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<v Speaker 2>need to bring as many of those together, whether it's

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<v Speaker 2>beat in Kansas City or Carolina. You have to put

0:22:19.359 --> 0:22:22.000
<v Speaker 2>some of these victories together and keep building on what

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<v Speaker 2>they've done well here in their last three games.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely. We'll take a quick look here at some

0:22:28.320 --> 0:22:32.520
<v Speaker 1>other games around the NFL in Week thirteen. Actually, there's

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<v Speaker 1>an important one in the NFC. Tonight, Thursday Night, Seattle

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<v Speaker 1>is at Dallas for Thursday Night Football. Second straight Thursday

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<v Speaker 1>game for both of these teams that both played on

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<v Speaker 1>Thanksgiving a week ago. The league seems to have gotten

0:22:46.680 --> 0:22:51.000
<v Speaker 1>into that pattern that the Thursday night game after Thanksgiving

0:22:51.119 --> 0:22:54.080
<v Speaker 1>is two teams that had played on Thanksgiving. So, yeah,

0:22:54.119 --> 0:22:55.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, that seems to be.

0:22:55.680 --> 0:22:59.200
<v Speaker 2>The computers just rebelling against the system. I guess so.

0:23:00.240 --> 0:23:03.480
<v Speaker 1>But that's obviously a very interesting one in terms of

0:23:03.520 --> 0:23:06.680
<v Speaker 1>the NFC playoff picture. A couple others that I think

0:23:06.720 --> 0:23:10.680
<v Speaker 1>Packers fans will probably have their eye on Sunday before

0:23:10.880 --> 0:23:13.480
<v Speaker 1>the Packers and Chiefs kickoff on Sunday night. Detroit is

0:23:13.480 --> 0:23:18.120
<v Speaker 1>at New Orleans, Cleveland is at the Rams. So those

0:23:18.160 --> 0:23:21.399
<v Speaker 1>games involve some teams that are in the mix there

0:23:21.560 --> 0:23:24.360
<v Speaker 1>with the Packers. And then the biggest game on Sunday

0:23:24.840 --> 0:23:29.520
<v Speaker 1>in the afternoon anyway, is San Francisco at Philadelphia, a

0:23:29.560 --> 0:23:32.400
<v Speaker 1>rematch of the NFC Championship from last year when Brock

0:23:32.440 --> 0:23:35.720
<v Speaker 1>Purdy got hurt and the Eagles kind of cruise to

0:23:35.760 --> 0:23:37.959
<v Speaker 1>that victory to get into the Super Bowl. Man, how

0:23:38.000 --> 0:23:41.640
<v Speaker 1>many times, speaking of the schedule and the computer spitting

0:23:41.640 --> 0:23:44.320
<v Speaker 1>things out, how many times has there been a Super

0:23:44.320 --> 0:23:50.119
<v Speaker 1>Bowl rematch and a conference championship rematch within a span

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<v Speaker 1>of like three weeks.

0:23:51.280 --> 0:23:52.080
<v Speaker 2>Or where it's been.

0:23:52.160 --> 0:23:55.280
<v Speaker 1>That's kind of crazy when you think about it. But anyway,

0:23:55.440 --> 0:23:58.880
<v Speaker 1>so Niners and Eagles, I think we'll all be watching

0:23:58.920 --> 0:24:02.400
<v Speaker 1>the finish of that in the press box before Packers

0:24:02.400 --> 0:24:05.040
<v Speaker 1>and Chiefs kickoff. Your thoughts on any of those games

0:24:05.320 --> 0:24:06.600
<v Speaker 1>here in Week thirteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the New Orleans one is very interesting to me

0:24:08.760 --> 0:24:11.320
<v Speaker 2>because as we've been talking about the Lions, you know,

0:24:11.560 --> 0:24:14.400
<v Speaker 2>take nothing away from them, that was a very you know,

0:24:14.960 --> 0:24:17.640
<v Speaker 2>hard fought game last week, but the Lions are kind

0:24:17.640 --> 0:24:20.320
<v Speaker 2>of going through some things right now. They haven't really

0:24:20.320 --> 0:24:22.520
<v Speaker 2>been hitting on all cylinders like they were even before

0:24:22.560 --> 0:24:25.240
<v Speaker 2>that game against Green Bay. So seeing how they match

0:24:25.320 --> 0:24:28.480
<v Speaker 2>up in the Superdome against the Saints, who have proven

0:24:28.480 --> 0:24:30.879
<v Speaker 2>to be basically it's kind of a coin flip with

0:24:30.920 --> 0:24:32.719
<v Speaker 2>them every week, it feels like, I mean, they certainly

0:24:32.720 --> 0:24:34.800
<v Speaker 2>are a much different team with Alvin Kamara, there's no

0:24:34.840 --> 0:24:38.919
<v Speaker 2>doubt about that. But trying to figure out them has

0:24:39.080 --> 0:24:41.199
<v Speaker 2>been a really big challenge. You know, they they're so

0:24:41.320 --> 0:24:45.600
<v Speaker 2>unconventional offensively with what Taysom Hill continues to do. I

0:24:45.680 --> 0:24:47.159
<v Speaker 2>just in any given week, I don't really know what

0:24:47.200 --> 0:24:49.240
<v Speaker 2>you get, and in most cases it ends up being

0:24:49.280 --> 0:24:52.480
<v Speaker 2>around five hundred, right So seeing how the Lions responded

0:24:52.520 --> 0:24:55.679
<v Speaker 2>that is going to be major. But I mean it

0:24:55.760 --> 0:24:59.600
<v Speaker 2>is all about San Francisco and Philly and seeing how

0:24:59.680 --> 0:25:03.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, Hurts has been kind of banged up. You know,

0:25:04.119 --> 0:25:07.240
<v Speaker 2>the forty nine ers kind of went through some doldrums there,

0:25:07.240 --> 0:25:09.639
<v Speaker 2>but now they've kind of pulled it together. Yeah, you

0:25:09.680 --> 0:25:12.720
<v Speaker 2>talk about being a repeat of you know, the past

0:25:12.840 --> 0:25:16.000
<v Speaker 2>NFC Championship game. I'm sure Kyle Shanahan the way he's

0:25:16.040 --> 0:25:18.040
<v Speaker 2>looking at this is this is our measuring stick. This

0:25:18.119 --> 0:25:20.080
<v Speaker 2>is where we got to get this team to. If

0:25:20.119 --> 0:25:22.239
<v Speaker 2>we're finally going to solve the Philly problem, There's going

0:25:22.320 --> 0:25:24.520
<v Speaker 2>to be five other problems in the playoffs and the

0:25:24.600 --> 0:25:27.080
<v Speaker 2>NFC side of things. But you go back to the

0:25:27.119 --> 0:25:29.359
<v Speaker 2>years with San Francisco and Dallas in the nineties, this

0:25:29.400 --> 0:25:32.040
<v Speaker 2>is how these things go. So, uh, I'm sure they're

0:25:32.040 --> 0:25:34.080
<v Speaker 2>going to tackle this thing, you know, very you know,

0:25:34.240 --> 0:25:36.679
<v Speaker 2>with that much vigor and seeing if you know, they

0:25:36.680 --> 0:25:39.800
<v Speaker 2>could finally pass that test. I do have a quick

0:25:39.880 --> 0:25:42.960
<v Speaker 2>question for you, because I still don't really understand the

0:25:43.000 --> 0:25:45.960
<v Speaker 2>flex scheduling for Monday night football. Okay, is there any

0:25:45.960 --> 0:25:48.720
<v Speaker 2>party that was surprised there wasn't movement with Cincinnati and

0:25:48.960 --> 0:25:51.399
<v Speaker 2>in Jacksonville or was it just too late because of

0:25:51.440 --> 0:25:52.200
<v Speaker 2>the Borough thing?

0:25:52.720 --> 0:25:55.000
<v Speaker 1>I think I think the I think the people really

0:25:55.040 --> 0:25:57.040
<v Speaker 1>want to say, I think the Borough injury might have happened,

0:25:57.200 --> 0:26:00.680
<v Speaker 1>might have happened too late in that Yeah, that's that's

0:26:00.720 --> 0:26:03.840
<v Speaker 1>that's my best guess. But that being said, you know, Jacksonville.

0:26:04.080 --> 0:26:07.080
<v Speaker 1>And I know Jacksonville doesn't have the market size and

0:26:07.240 --> 0:26:10.480
<v Speaker 1>the fan following, but Jacksonville is a playoff team. They

0:26:10.480 --> 0:26:13.560
<v Speaker 1>were last year. They're leading their leading their division and

0:26:13.600 --> 0:26:14.440
<v Speaker 1>everything right now.

0:26:14.560 --> 0:26:17.879
<v Speaker 2>So did you watch that Bengals Steelers game? Though? Last week?

0:26:17.960 --> 0:26:19.880
<v Speaker 1>I watched a good portion of it. Yeah, it was

0:26:20.000 --> 0:26:20.880
<v Speaker 1>that was pretty rough.

0:26:20.960 --> 0:26:23.560
<v Speaker 2>I was looking for some leaves to rake or something,

0:26:23.640 --> 0:26:27.480
<v Speaker 2>but I kept watching because the only reason I even

0:26:27.480 --> 0:26:29.040
<v Speaker 2>bring up the Monday night football thing is because it

0:26:29.119 --> 0:26:31.800
<v Speaker 2>keeps getting asked an insider inbox about the Packers Monday

0:26:31.840 --> 0:26:34.000
<v Speaker 2>night game against the Giants. Against the Giants, I don't

0:26:34.040 --> 0:26:36.160
<v Speaker 2>expect there to be any movement, especially since the Jets

0:26:36.200 --> 0:26:37.440
<v Speaker 2>play there on Sunday.

0:26:37.200 --> 0:26:39.760
<v Speaker 1>Right yeah, and the the deadline has passed now anyway,

0:26:39.800 --> 0:26:42.520
<v Speaker 1>But I always thought from the beginning, because the Jets

0:26:42.520 --> 0:26:45.760
<v Speaker 1>have a home game at MetLife on Sunday afternoon, and

0:26:45.800 --> 0:26:48.080
<v Speaker 1>then they scheduled the Giants for the for the Monday,

0:26:48.200 --> 0:26:50.199
<v Speaker 1>I mean, how are I mean? So, the only the

0:26:50.200 --> 0:26:52.920
<v Speaker 1>only way to flex it is essentially to then move

0:26:52.960 --> 0:26:54.880
<v Speaker 1>the Jets to the Monday night game, which I don't

0:26:54.880 --> 0:26:57.800
<v Speaker 1>know if that's any more attractive, because you know, Aaron

0:26:57.840 --> 0:26:59.960
<v Speaker 1>Rodgers is back at practice now, but he's not act

0:27:00.040 --> 0:27:01.280
<v Speaker 1>if he's not going to be playing.

0:27:01.400 --> 0:27:03.960
<v Speaker 2>We've watched a game, yeah, the Jets.

0:27:03.960 --> 0:27:06.000
<v Speaker 1>The Jets were put in a lot of big spotlight

0:27:06.080 --> 0:27:09.400
<v Speaker 1>games for for obvious reasons, and then uh, and then

0:27:09.440 --> 0:27:12.679
<v Speaker 1>with Rogers injury, those those haven't turned out to be

0:27:12.720 --> 0:27:14.880
<v Speaker 1>the games other than when they beat the Eagles, which

0:27:14.920 --> 0:27:17.320
<v Speaker 1>is the Eagles only lost this season. That was the

0:27:17.320 --> 0:27:19.800
<v Speaker 1>one the country was watching, and and uh, you know,

0:27:19.880 --> 0:27:22.760
<v Speaker 1>and that was what, uh, the game that everybody thought, oh,

0:27:22.800 --> 0:27:24.400
<v Speaker 1>maybe the Jets are going to be all right here,

0:27:24.440 --> 0:27:26.760
<v Speaker 1>but they're you know, they're not. I'll say this with

0:27:26.800 --> 0:27:30.399
<v Speaker 1>regard to the Eagles and the Niners, it's gonna be

0:27:30.440 --> 0:27:32.119
<v Speaker 1>I think it's gonna be a fun game to watch

0:27:32.320 --> 0:27:36.240
<v Speaker 1>the and I know mathematically nothing will be decided, but man,

0:27:36.320 --> 0:27:39.240
<v Speaker 1>if the Eagles win this game, they basically have the

0:27:39.320 --> 0:27:41.960
<v Speaker 1>number one seed. I mean they're not you know, yes,

0:27:42.040 --> 0:27:45.520
<v Speaker 1>mathematically it won't be official, but they're going to get

0:27:45.560 --> 0:27:47.119
<v Speaker 1>if they win this game, they're going to get the

0:27:47.200 --> 0:27:49.560
<v Speaker 1>number one seed. They're going to get the buye The

0:27:49.600 --> 0:27:53.000
<v Speaker 1>only chance for in my opinion, for the Niners to

0:27:53.119 --> 0:27:56.879
<v Speaker 1>actually steal that number one seed and the bye is

0:27:57.000 --> 0:27:59.320
<v Speaker 1>for the Niners to go into the Link on Sunday

0:27:59.359 --> 0:28:01.719
<v Speaker 1>and get that win and tighten things up.

0:28:01.920 --> 0:28:03.800
<v Speaker 2>It's kind of like the marathon when you have the

0:28:03.800 --> 0:28:06.120
<v Speaker 2>person that's out front by a couple miles. I mean,

0:28:06.520 --> 0:28:11.240
<v Speaker 2>the Eagles closed the season giants, Arizona Giants. I mean,

0:28:11.280 --> 0:28:13.440
<v Speaker 2>if you're gonna get them, you better get them quick. Yeah,

0:28:13.760 --> 0:28:15.080
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if i'd.

0:28:15.040 --> 0:28:17.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and the Niners could win this game, and the

0:28:17.359 --> 0:28:19.800
<v Speaker 1>Eagles could still get the number one, absolutely because but

0:28:19.840 --> 0:28:21.920
<v Speaker 1>you gotta help you currently have the one loss. I

0:28:21.960 --> 0:28:25.240
<v Speaker 1>mean them pulling off that overtime victory when they were

0:28:25.840 --> 0:28:28.040
<v Speaker 1>trailing throughout the game, trailing at the end of the

0:28:28.080 --> 0:28:30.800
<v Speaker 1>fourth quarter, even trailing in overtime, but they pulled out

0:28:30.840 --> 0:28:33.679
<v Speaker 1>that game against Buffalo to still be sitting there with

0:28:33.800 --> 0:28:36.920
<v Speaker 1>just the one loss. You know, the Eagles are sitting

0:28:37.000 --> 0:28:37.880
<v Speaker 1>in the catbird seat.

0:28:37.920 --> 0:28:40.080
<v Speaker 2>As I like to say, as you like to say.

0:28:40.320 --> 0:28:41.960
<v Speaker 2>It's a big Spoffordism.

0:28:42.960 --> 0:28:47.320
<v Speaker 1>Should be a good game tonight, though, Dallas against the Seahawks.

0:28:47.920 --> 0:28:50.440
<v Speaker 1>The Cowboys obviously trying to keep pace with the Eagles.

0:28:50.440 --> 0:28:52.960
<v Speaker 1>The Seahawks, they've hit the skids a little bit. Kenneth

0:28:53.000 --> 0:28:55.480
<v Speaker 1>Walker has been injured. A lot of Packers fans will

0:28:55.480 --> 0:28:58.800
<v Speaker 1>be watching to see if the Cowboys can hand Seattle

0:28:58.840 --> 0:29:00.160
<v Speaker 1>a sixth loss.

0:29:00.480 --> 0:29:04.160
<v Speaker 2>More than anything. Gino Smith versus that Cowboys defense. Yeah,

0:29:04.160 --> 0:29:06.680
<v Speaker 2>that Cowboys defense. You thought they were going to lose

0:29:06.680 --> 0:29:07.720
<v Speaker 2>something earlier this season.

0:29:07.800 --> 0:29:10.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they lost one of their best players. But but yeah,

0:29:10.400 --> 0:29:10.880
<v Speaker 1>look here.

0:29:10.800 --> 0:29:12.680
<v Speaker 2>Comes Blank just out of nowhere, being like, hey, I'm

0:29:12.680 --> 0:29:15.040
<v Speaker 2>gonna return every interception for a touchdown.

0:29:14.720 --> 0:29:18.280
<v Speaker 1>Touchdout and set set an NFL record. That was something too.

0:29:18.360 --> 0:29:21.520
<v Speaker 1>I didn't realize when he got that fifth pick six.

0:29:22.240 --> 0:29:25.400
<v Speaker 1>The last time somebody had four pick sixes in a

0:29:25.480 --> 0:29:28.160
<v Speaker 1>season was thirty years ago. It was nineteen ninety three.

0:29:28.240 --> 0:29:30.160
<v Speaker 1>It was like, Holy Cole. I didn't realize that it had

0:29:30.160 --> 0:29:32.000
<v Speaker 1>been it had been that long. But I guess that

0:29:32.200 --> 0:29:32.920
<v Speaker 1>just shows them.

0:29:32.800 --> 0:29:34.760
<v Speaker 2>Getting Well you think about it too. I mean, how

0:29:34.800 --> 0:29:36.800
<v Speaker 2>often is it that a guy either has that much

0:29:36.880 --> 0:29:39.640
<v Speaker 2>speed or is just that far removed from everybody else

0:29:39.680 --> 0:29:41.960
<v Speaker 2>to be able to take it? You know, like, yes,

0:29:42.160 --> 0:29:45.480
<v Speaker 2>there is a Dion Sanders type skill towards it, right,

0:29:45.600 --> 0:29:48.080
<v Speaker 2>but a lot of times there's so many other variables

0:29:48.120 --> 0:29:50.320
<v Speaker 2>that go into returning an interception right, And.

0:29:50.880 --> 0:29:52.640
<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, you can't have any You can't have any

0:29:52.640 --> 0:29:54.720
<v Speaker 1>of your teammates block somebody in the back either, which

0:29:54.760 --> 0:29:58.080
<v Speaker 1>happens a lot on interception returns. But when that doesn't happen,

0:29:58.160 --> 0:30:00.600
<v Speaker 1>obviously you're you know you got a chance to to

0:30:00.640 --> 0:30:02.080
<v Speaker 1>take it. But yeah, it should be a good one

0:30:02.120 --> 0:30:04.320
<v Speaker 1>Thursday and at a big game in terms of the

0:30:04.440 --> 0:30:06.560
<v Speaker 1>NFC playoff picture. A lot of Packers fans will be

0:30:06.560 --> 0:30:09.560
<v Speaker 1>watching leading up to Sunday night, and with that we'll

0:30:09.600 --> 0:30:12.280
<v Speaker 1>call it a rap on this edition of Packers Unscripted.

0:30:12.320 --> 0:30:14.000
<v Speaker 1>Be shure to follow all of our coverage of the

0:30:14.040 --> 0:30:17.880
<v Speaker 1>team and everything from Sunday Night's game against the defending

0:30:17.920 --> 0:30:20.160
<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl champion Kansas City Chiefs. We will have it

0:30:20.200 --> 0:30:23.680
<v Speaker 1>all for you on Packers dot com. For Wes, I'm Mike.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for tuning in everybody. We will see you

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<v Speaker 1>next time.