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Speaker 1: It is Wednesday, right around lunchtime, and I decided. I

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Speaker 1: podcast today. Make it meaty football stuff. And that's what

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Speaker 1: I decided to do. So obviously, we got Thursday night

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Speaker 1: breaking news yesterday with Joe Douglas getting fired, we did

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Speaker 1: check that out. Obviously, Colin and I did one earlier

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Speaker 1: let's start with Tyler backstory. Born in ninety nine, makes

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Speaker 1: me feel old. I was eighth grade ninety nine, seventh

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Speaker 1: grade maybe seventh or eighth grade. So you're young. You

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Speaker 1: got a lot of life left to live. Family of

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Speaker 1: Browns fans. Sorry. Around five or six, I realized the

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Speaker 1: Browns sucked and had to find another team. I chose

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Speaker 1: Peyton Manning. He won the Super Bowl that year and

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Speaker 1: he was my guy from then on. After he retired,

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Speaker 1: it felt wrong to root for anybody but the Browns.

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Speaker 1: So here we are. When I was in junior high

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Speaker 1: high school, I was a paid, big paid Manning fan too. Question,

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Speaker 1: are the Browns really considering firing Stefanski? Hugh Jackson led

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Speaker 1: the most embarrassing football team in modern football history. Kitchens

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Speaker 1: was a joke. The Deshaun things sucks, but firing Kevin

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Speaker 1: will only make it worse thoughts. Yeah, man, I think

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Speaker 1: the Bill Simmons used to call it the Tyson zone,

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Speaker 1: like there was nothing Tyson could do that you wouldn't believe.

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Speaker 1: And I think there are some football tea There's always

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Speaker 1: been sports teams that kind of fell under that category.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the Knicks for a long time were that.

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Speaker 1: I think the Raiders. You know, football has had a

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Speaker 1: The Raiders fall under that category. And sad to say,

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Speaker 1: Multiple times. You won a playoff game with Baker Flacco

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Speaker 1: I think sometimes in life when the dude cutting the

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Speaker 1: there's a superiority complex, especially something is lucrative. As an

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Speaker 1: about Jerry Jones. That fucker created all his money. That

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Speaker 1: But I think when you look at Jimmy Haslum like,

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Speaker 1: Last year, they blamed all the offensive coaches. They got

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Speaker 1: to your owner. If Zach Taylor gets fired. What are

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Speaker 1: your thoughts on the Bengals hiring Belichick. I think they'd

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Speaker 1: coming back, which clearly he wants to. Let's look at

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Speaker 1: the jobs the Jags. How could you take the Jags

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Speaker 1: if you're Bill Belichick and you're coming back to win,

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Speaker 1: hundreds of millions of dollars? I mean, there are reports

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Speaker 1: Belichick a ton. Belichick does not need more money. I mean, listen,

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Speaker 1: it's capitalism. We always need more money. It's part of

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Speaker 1: it's not even close, would be coaching that quarterback. How

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Speaker 1: I think, if I'm Bill Belichick, I'm all over the

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Speaker 1: With someone like Joe Douglas Sala or Doug Peterson, they've

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Speaker 1: I've been taken edible since the day they became legal

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Speaker 1: not take edibles when I travel internationally, these are by

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Speaker 1: far the best I've ever had. Got you, Homie. Secondly,

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Speaker 1: draft in nineteenth or you better off draft in eleventh. Again,

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Speaker 1: I'm not pro tanking in general. I mean the NBA

427
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 1: that became synonymous with tanking. I saw their ratings are

428
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Speaker 1: down again, so that's never good for business. I'm not

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Speaker 1: pro tanking unless you are legitimately tanking like the Dolphins

430
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Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, and then you win three

431
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Speaker 1: of your last five games in a costume Joe Burrow,

432
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 1: then yeah, that's a head scratcher. But like what the

433
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Speaker 1: Browns did several years ago, that that was stupid. But

434
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Speaker 1: the forty nine ers are a couple losses away from

435
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Speaker 1: like none of this matters. Question for the mailbag, do

436
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Speaker 1: you think the Broncos have a much better roster than

437
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Speaker 1: they've been given credit for or do you think it's

438
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,919
Speaker 1: mostly has to do with coaching, because going into the season,

439
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 1: it was pretty much consensus that Denver had the worst

440
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 1: roster in the NFL, and it's clear at this point

441
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 1: it's closer to ten or fifteen. Well, I think sometimes

442
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Speaker 1: when you have unknown guys, like they've gotten rid of

443
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Speaker 1: a bunch of household brands and guys would name recognition.

444
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 1: So when you pivot off those guys and you go

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Speaker 1: to more random players that people can't just point out

446
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Speaker 1: of the lineup, if you coach those guys up, they

447
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 1: can become ten, fifteen million dollar players. So within a

448
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,639
Speaker 1: couple of years they become household names. But when it

449
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Speaker 1: first happens, no one knows, and that's what coaching is.

450
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Speaker 1: I also think when you draft the last quarterback in

451
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Speaker 1: the first round and five guys go above them, people

452
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Speaker 1: just assume he's going to be the worst quarterback of

453
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Speaker 1: the bunch. When you get rid of a wide receiver

454
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Speaker 1: and Jerry Judy, who let's just face it, is a

455
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,159
Speaker 1: famous wide receiver, even though he's pretty overrated, people just

456
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Speaker 1: think you're kind of tanking right. Defensively, you get rid

457
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Speaker 1: of Justin Simmons and all of a sudden, it's like

458
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:55,120
Speaker 1: your defense is way better. And it's not just Patrick's

459
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Speaker 1: your team. To me, their whole defense plays fast. I

460
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Speaker 1: don't know, Like I don't think most casual fans could

461
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 1: just name off their defensive line. But when I watch

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Speaker 1: them play, their defensive line is very, very productive. They're

463
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Speaker 1: very very They're just a problem. And maybe that's why

464
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 1: Vance Joseph is now, you know, in the mix to

465
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: get coaching jobs, because you look like their best teams

466
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Speaker 1: had really famous guys on defense, from a keep to

467
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 1: leave to DeMarcus Ware to Von Miller. That's not really

468
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Speaker 1: the case. Subtracting Patrick sertain. So I think sometimes we

469
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Speaker 1: might look back in a couple of years ago they

470
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Speaker 1: had a bunch of impact players that we just didn't

471
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 1: know yet. That happens a lot in the NFL. I mean,

472
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 1: part of like, well, why is the Chiefs defense good? Well,

473
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 1: we've known about Chris Johns for a long time. It's

474
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Speaker 1: because a couple of years ago when they drafted McDuffie,

475
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Speaker 1: excellent player, Karlovski is excellent player, Bolton impact player. You

476
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 1: just start getting all these guys that are impact players

477
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Speaker 1: that you draft or some for cheap. So good question. Hey, John,

478
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 1: big fan of the pod wanted to throw some pushback

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Speaker 1: on the Josh and Lamar discourse. The way you and

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Speaker 1: the media talk about Josh Allen, you would think he's

481
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl. Why are we acting like Josh

482
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: is some world beater in the playoffs? If he beats

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Speaker 1: Mac Jones, Mason Rudolph, and Skyler Thompson's Dolphins. Josh loses

484
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 1: to the Chiefs in the playoffs every single year and

485
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Speaker 1: gets a pass. Lamar has shit the bed in the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: No denying it, but can we please stop acting like

487
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: Josh is some leaps and bounds better playoff performer. Also,

488
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 1: as far as the who's better argument goes, if Lamar

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Speaker 1: and Josh both retired today, Lamar is going to the

490
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, not Josh. Not saying Josh won't end

491
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Speaker 1: up in the Hall of Fame when it's all said

492
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: and done. But the only Hall of Fame quarterbacks playing

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Speaker 1: in this eerra right now are Mahomes and Lamar. Yeah,

494
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 1: I gotta push back on that one, Like, you've won

495
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: some MVPs in the regular season, then you haven't done

496
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: shit in the playoffs? Right? Who are you? Cam Newton

497
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 1: and even Cam like had some moments in the playoffs.

498
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Speaker 1: Josh is objectively better in the playoffs against the Chiefs

499
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Speaker 1: as well. Remember when he threw four touchdowns at Darrowhead

500
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 1: and his coaching staff blew with thirteen seconds, So like, yeah,

501
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 1: you beat the shit out of random teams, you guys

502
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: do as Lamar. But in the playoffs he has been bad.

503
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: Josh has not. Josh has been good. Like That's just

504
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 1: a fact. And the reason people I would say act

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00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: like he's better than Lamar over the aggregate is because

506
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Speaker 1: we put the emphasis in January, where he has been

507
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:50,959
Speaker 1: an excellent player, and Lamar, who's superhuman when he plays

508
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: real teams, no longer looks superhuman when it matters the most.

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Speaker 1: I'm not anti Lamar, but like MVPs at this point,

510
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Speaker 1: like I would say, his MVP last year is kind

511
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: of hollow. Seriously, the twenty nineteen to one was really impressive.

512
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 1: That was young player, dominated the league, and then he

513
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: got beat by the Titans in the first round. Last

514
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 1: year won he threw twenty four fucking touchdowns. It will

515
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 1: go down as one of the worst MVP years. And

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Speaker 1: I'm not talking to him, I'm just talking like competition.

517
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 1: I ever remember, like this year is a real MVP year,

518
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Speaker 1: and Lamar's having a way better season than last year,

519
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: except when he's played real teams, the Chiefs and the Steelers,

520
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 1: and he's lost both games, and he has not played well.

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Speaker 1: He had the kind of comeback against the Chiefs when

522
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: they were kind of out of it and came storming back.

523
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 1: Steeler game, he was atrocious. You can have a bad game,

524
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 1: no big deal, but he always has bad games against

525
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Speaker 1: good teams in big spots. Josh Allen's teammate lose. His

526
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 1: team's never been as good as the Ravens. The Ravens

527
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Speaker 1: last year had one of the greatest defenses in the

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Speaker 1: history of the league, and they held mahomes in the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs to seventeen points and they lost. Last year, Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen lost to the Cancer Chiefs at home twenty seven

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Speaker 1: to twenty four and his kicker missed. So it's like,

532
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Speaker 1: you guys lost seventeen points. So we're talking like Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen's a Hall of Famer, He's going to the Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame. Joe Burrow if he says Hell is going

535
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Speaker 1: to the Hall of Fame, like that's happening. Lamar Jackson

536
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Speaker 1: hanging his hat on MVPs right now feels a little

537
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: like Joel Embiid feels a little like James Harden. It's like,

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Speaker 1: why does he look so different? He even made me

539
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Speaker 1: a believer. I finally believed last year, and then I

540
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: put my money where my mouth was in my head,

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Speaker 1: and then I got burned, and I wanted to believe

542
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: again this year because I'm watching him play offense, I'm like,

543
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 1: holy shit, this is incredible. And then I watched the

544
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Speaker 1: Steeler game. But I didn't get fooled in the Steeler game.

545
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: Why cause I bet the fucking Steelers as a home dog,

546
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Speaker 1: because I bet against them in that situation and they

547
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: were even worse than I thought. I didn't take the

548
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: Chiefs as a dog against the Bills. Why Josh Allen

549
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: makes me nervous? Why? Because I know people with the

550
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: Chiefs who do they fear more? I got news for you.

551
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: It's the dude in Buffalo. And this always feels like

552
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: why are people so quick? Like why do we have

553
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: to treat all this shit like little kids. We're talking

554
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Speaker 1: about the best of the best, and one guy has

555
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: just been awful in the playoffs. So and part of

556
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: the reason this conversation becomes so polarizing because he dominates

557
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: the regular season. He's got an eighty percent winning percentage

558
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 1: non playoffs, non Chiefs, non Steelers. He beats a shit

559
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: out of everybody, and everyone's like, it's not the drops,

560
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: the drops Josh Allen. Josh Allen loses too. Yeah, well

561
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: look at their numbers. Watch them play. One guy plays

562
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 1: way better in these games. Why does Lamar look so

563
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: bad against the good teams? Why? I don't know the answer.

564
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 1: I know I was told last year by someone a

565
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: close situation that I got tight against the Chiefs. Not

566
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Speaker 1: really debatable. We all watched the game. He got really

567
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 1: tight and it looked bad. The Steeler game somewhat of

568
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: those vibes. You know why, because in these big games

569
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 1: against the best teams, you're not running wild. It's not happening.

570
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: And maybe he wants to prove he can pass because

571
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 1: he doesn't run as much. He kind of scrambles the

572
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: throw where Josh goes, fuck it, I'll play like Lamar.

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Speaker 1: What did you do just do against the Chiefs twelve

574
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 1: twelve carries for seventy yards. What do you do in

575
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: the playoff game against the Chiefs? Ran wild? Twelve carries

576
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 1: for seventy plus yards. Lamar is a dual threat. He's

577
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:46,479
Speaker 1: not Steve Young or Joe Montana or Peyton Manning. If

578
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: he doesn't run against the best teams and run for

579
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 1: fifty sixty seventy yards, he's not gonna win these games.

580
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 1: So I don't know if he's trying to prove people wrong,

581
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 1: like bro we all view as the greatest dual threat

582
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 1: quarterback in the history of the league. But you gotta

583
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: do both, like if you're gonna throw for thirty five

584
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: to forty times as a problem, I just the defense

585
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: of Lamar is just exhausting, like two things can be true.

586
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: He's had a remarkable career. He has been way better

587
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 1: than the Ravens thought he would be. They drafted him

588
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: thirty two. He wasn't even the first player they took

589
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:25,879
Speaker 1: in that round. I forget Mark Andrews. They took later,

590
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: they took another time, oh, Hayden Hurst. But like him

591
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: in these big games is an It's there's no like

592
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 1: a subjective nature to this, It's objective. He is dramatically worse,

593
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 1: dramatically all time great player, non the elite teams, the

594
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,720
Speaker 1: elite teams, different player. I watched Josh, same player. Sometimes

595
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,760
Speaker 1: his team loses, it's Swartz, it's the fucking pros. Sometimes

596
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: you lose, you tip your hat. It was a huge

597
00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: knock on Peyton Manning early in his career dominated then

598
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: he would get to the playoffs. He played the Patriots

599
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 1: and he looked like a fucking scrub. And I was

600
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: such a Peyton Manning fan, Like, what's going on? Finally

601
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:08,879
Speaker 1: got over the humpany he never looked back. Maybe Lamar

602
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: will or maybe you won't. I don't know. James Harden

603
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:16,240
Speaker 1: never did em Bead's never going to. But the defense

604
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: of them is just outrageous. Also, like, look at Josh's

605
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: career record in the playoffs, like he's winning games and

606
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 1: playing well in his losses. Like, if you play well

607
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: in your losses, tip your hat. Not everyone's Michael Jordan.

608
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 1: They don't always win. Sometimes you lose. But when you lose,

609
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,919
Speaker 1: did you come to play? Or when you lose, did

610
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: you ship the bed? That's that's my thing. And again

611
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 1: this is someone who's come around. Long winded question here,

612
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: but bear with me, it'll all come together. Okay, let's

613
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,760
Speaker 1: dive in here. Bradford. I'm currently listening to the mailbag

614
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 1: question about Hunter's usage in the NFL, and it had

615
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: me thinking, I think you're leaning toward him playing primarily

616
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 1: being a with some packages on offense. Is it possible

617
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: that he is a new age athlete with all the

618
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: access to cutting edge technology and the amount of money

619
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: these guys are spending on their bodies, they could play

620
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 1: both ways. Obviously not keeping up with the volume of

621
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: snaps he's doing right now, but maybe forty five and

622
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:23,439
Speaker 1: forty five each, so ninety total. I guess my real

623
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: question is this, if you're Travis and you've got to

624
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: be thinking about the long term when it comes to

625
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: getting paid, and if he's only playing one way, we

626
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: call it sixty five to seventy plays a game, in theory,

627
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: his career could be a lot longer, just based on

628
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,800
Speaker 1: miles on the board that if he has played both

629
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: sides of the ball, playing closer to ninety a game. So,

630
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 1: if he's a new age athlete, what does the contract

631
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 1: look like? Do you pay him like a dB then

632
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: also pay him like a wide out on top of that,

633
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 1: It's obviously never been really done since Dion, but and

634
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: even Dion played like sparingly on offense. But how the

635
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: hell would a modern d GM go about it. I

636
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: think a modern day GM would want this. They want

637
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,879
Speaker 1: him to play defensive back because it is much more

638
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,919
Speaker 1: difficult to find a defensive back who's a Pro Bowl

639
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 1: level player than it is to find an impact wide receiver.

640
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: So if the GMS could all choose, they would want

641
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: him to play defensive back. Now, if you're Travis, his

642
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 1: agent and his team, you go, well, currently wide receivers

643
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: make a lot more than corners. Now maybe that changes,

644
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 1: you know, certain did he just get a contract this year?

645
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 1: Sas Gardner who was going to get a contract and

646
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 1: then he played terrible. Derek Stingley with the Texans will

647
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 1: get a big contract. But those contracts are not going

648
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: to be, you know, justin Jefferson Jamar Chase that type money.

649
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 1: It's not going to be twenty eight thirty to thirty

650
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 1: five million dollars ceedee Lamb. Now maybe that changes with

651
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 1: some of these young stars coming in the league. But

652
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,879
Speaker 1: I I guess, just from a financial standpoint, you would

653
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 1: play wide receiver. The thing about going both ways, so

654
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: basically paying him a little bit of both, So paying

655
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: him like forty million dollars a year if I'm paying

656
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: him forty million dollars a year, let's just say let's

657
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: just let's just say he was playing right now, playing both,

658
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: and he was really good at both, and he needed

659
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: a new contract, and I was like, Okay, we'll give

660
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: him like kind of quarterback money because he plays two positions.

661
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 1: Forty forty five million dollars a year. Well, if he

662
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 1: gets injured, it's kind of a double whammy because I

663
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: would lose my starting wide receiver and I would lose

664
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 1: my starting number one corner. So if he's playing well,

665
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: it's great, But if he breaks his leg, I am

666
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 1: without two guys for a while. That's where I think

667
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 1: teams would struggle. Of like when I lose if Seedee

668
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 1: Lamb gets hurt, I just lose a wide receiver. But

669
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: if it's Travis Hunter, it'd be like I'd lose Ceede

670
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: Lamb and Digs or the Texans I would lose Stingley

671
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: and Nico Collins. If I told you this this weekend,

672
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: the Houston Texans lose Stingley and Nico Collins for the season,

673
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 1: You'd be like, uh, they're screwed. But if you only

674
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: lose one of the two for three weeks, it's not

675
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: as bad. That's where I think it gets really complicated.

676
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 1: For front offices and coaching staffs. I think you'd like

677
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: him to just pick one dominated. I think you would

678
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: also say the competition is way more intense and difficult

679
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 1: in the NFL than it is in the Big Twelve.

680
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 1: So for you to be a great player like Dion,

681
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 1: you do have to focus on one thing. Now, that

682
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: doesn't mean you can't also do another thing. I think

683
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 1: the front offices, the coaches, everyone wants him to play

684
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: dB wide receivers, probably a little more fun because you're

685
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:59,399
Speaker 1: scoring touchdowns and financially you get paid more money. It's

686
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: a complicated subject. I don't have a correct answer, so

687
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: I my guess would be tries to play both would

688
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:20,320
Speaker 1: be my guest question for the back. The postgame analysts

689
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 1: after the Ravens Steeler game noted the Steelers last year

690
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: were seven to four before their quarterback got hurt. One

691
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 1: thing the Steelers did well last season during that run,

692
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: which included wins against playoff teams the Rams, the Packers,

693
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: the Browns the Ravens was not turning the ball over.

694
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 1: Coach Tomlin wants his quarterback to limit throwing the ball

695
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 1: in the middle of the field between the linebackers and

696
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: the safeties. Reason being there are too many defensive players

697
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 1: in that area. Even the slightest inaccuracy can lead to

698
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 1: a turnover. Coach Tomlin has made a living winning the

699
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 1: turnover battle. My fear is playing this style will run

700
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 1: into problems in the playoffs. How do you see the

701
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 1: Steelers matching up against the Bills or the Chiefs. I

702
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 1: think they are more equipped to beat the Chiefs because

703
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: they played the same game. So if I'm playing the

704
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 1: Chiefs among the Steelers, I can win. Like I just

705
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: did against the Ravens eighteen to sixteen, fifteen to twelve,

706
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: fifteen to fourteen, I can win that game. I'm kind

707
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 1: of the mirror image of the Chiefs. You would say

708
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: right now, I mean, you would much rather have Mahomes

709
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: than Russell, but you know you would take I mean,

710
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: Pickens is the best wide receiver out of the group.

711
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: You know, we'll see Patako will come back, so the

712
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 1: running games will be somewhat even. But you would say

713
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 1: that the Chiefs defense with some of their I mean,

714
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: their corner situation is not as good as it was

715
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 1: last year, and the Chiefs defense. I would give the

716
00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 1: edge to the Steelers, assuming you know they play in

717
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: the playoffs in Highsmiths healthy, their defensive line slightly better,

718
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 1: even though Chiefs defensive line is good too. I would

719
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: say that it would be hard for them to beat

720
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: the Bills. I would pick the Bills against them. I

721
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 1: would pick the Chiefs against them, but I will acknowledge

722
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: that like they could beat the Chiefs in that kind

723
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:27,240
Speaker 1: of game, can they beat the Ravens three times? Good question?

724
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 1: I don't know my question about our current generation of quarterbacks.

725
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: So outside of Mahomes, who do you think will be

726
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,280
Speaker 1: the first to win a ring? Josh Allen, Joe Burrow,

727
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:42,240
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, Justin Herbert? And how do you think could

728
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: possibly retire without ever winning the Big One? It's a

729
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 1: good question. I would say, let's just play the odds.

730
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 1: The Chiefs are not in the Super Bowl this year.

731
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 1: Let's just play the odds. So if the Chiefs are

732
00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:59,879
Speaker 1: not in the Super Bowl, I would say it's base

733
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 1: just between four teams. Then I would not say the

734
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,879
Speaker 1: Broncos are getting there, and I would say it would

735
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 1: be very difficult given their offensive line play. That the

736
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,240
Speaker 1: Texans are there so it would be between the Chargers,

737
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: the Steelers and the Ravens and the Bills. So if

738
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 1: we say the Steelers feels like the way Russell played

739
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 1: the other day, like, is that gonna win you three

740
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 1: playoff games? Probably not, So it would be Lamar Jackson,

741
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:34,240
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert or Josh Allen. And depending on the Lions,

742
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 1: if they're playing the Lions, the Lions probably favored in

743
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. But that would be a very good

744
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 1: opportunity for one of those teams to win a Super Bowl.

745
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 1: And you would say, if it's let's just say Lamar

746
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 1: Jackson or Josh Allen, they would have the better quarterback.

747
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,879
Speaker 1: And I know he's having a great year, but every

748
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: team in the league, including the Lions and every person

749
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 1: listening to this, would take Lamar Jackson or Josh Allen

750
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 1: over Jared Goff. So they are more than likely, just

751
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 1: based on statisticals or statistical anomalies, that the Chiefs would

752
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 1: have to be to get to three straight Super Bowls.

753
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 1: I don't think it's happened since the Bills in the

754
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: early nineties. I mean, it's been a long time. Let alone,

755
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 1: no one's ever won three straight Super Bowls. Is one

756
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: of those guys gonna have the opportunity if I was

757
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 1: a betting man, like, I think Herbert's gonna be in

758
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:28,479
Speaker 1: some so, I mean Jim Harbaugh's proven Liken, They're only

759
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 1: gonna be better moving forward. I mean the Ravens and

760
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 1: the Bills are just always good. So I think all

761
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: three of those guys I have more faith than Josh Allen, Like,

762
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 1: I'm not backing from that. How could you have faith

763
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 1: in Lamar Jackson in these big games? Doesn't mean he

764
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 1: can't do it, but based on the information we have,

765
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: he becomes a different guy, and Josh Allen does not.

766
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: So if I get both these guys the regular season

767
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: version and only one of them plays like the regular

768
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: season version in the playoffs, and they both have good teams,

769
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 1: I'll think the guy that just plays the same, and

770
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: Herbert's a little bit of a wild card. We haven't

771
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 1: really seen much of him, right. He played in the

772
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 1: one playoff game where in the second half against the

773
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 1: Jags he wasn't good and they lost. Joe Burrow has

774
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 1: already been there. We'll get back. Well, if I tell

775
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 1: you Belichick's coach, maybe he like them more. A report

776
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,879
Speaker 1: on on three just came out saying head coach Dan

777
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 1: Lanning is generating interest amongst some NFL teams. Landing has

778
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 1: stated the grass is damn green in Eugene, but NFL

779
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 1: money is greener. I believe him, being from Kansas City area,

780
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: he would only leave the Ducks to coach the Chiefs.

781
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,760
Speaker 1: Do you think he's ready for an NFL head coaching

782
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: job if he's only in his third year of being

783
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: a head coach? Thanks for the content. I would say

784
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 1: NFL money. I mean he's got Phil Knight in Nike,

785
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,280
Speaker 1: so he has if they want to pay him fifteen sixteen,

786
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: seventeen eighteen million, they can pay him whatever they want.

787
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure Dan Lanning is never coached in the NFL,

788
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 1: so it would be a pretty dramatic jump. Dan Lanning

789
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: is I think he's my age. He's actually a company

790
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: more in eighty six. I was born eighty four, so

791
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 1: he's thirty eight years old. He has been coaching major

792
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: college football since twenty eleven. You know, young guys have

793
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:25,399
Speaker 1: been getting head coaching jobs, right, Zach Taylor, Not Zach,

794
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,800
Speaker 1: I meant McVeigh Kyle. I guess Zach Taylor is relatively

795
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 1: young these guys have spent a lot of time in

796
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: the NFL, So I do think there's a pretty dramatic

797
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 1: jump now with guys getting paid in college. With the

798
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: NIL the transfer portal, maybe you are more equipped to

799
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 1: deal with like guys making money and the professional aspect

800
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: of football, because that's kind of what college football is now,

801
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 1: especially at Oregon where they're paying a shitload of money

802
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:57,280
Speaker 1: to their entire team. So yeah, I mean, he's clearly

803
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:00,839
Speaker 1: really good, you know, the guys that have believed in him,

804
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: or Nick Saban and Kirby Smart and Phil Knight, So

805
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: I don't think we can really debate. Dan Lanning is

806
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 1: an impressive guy. I would say in this world of

807
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 1: NIL and transfer portal, he has one of the best

808
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:21,800
Speaker 1: jobs in the country because of the institutional money supporting

809
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 1: the program from Nike, which is part of the Oregon institution.

810
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: It's all like one, so it doesn't get any better. Like,

811
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 1: I don't think you leave Oregon if you're him for

812
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 1: any other job like Georgia or Alabama is not a

813
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: better job than Oregon. In the NIL era, Ohio state whatever,

814
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: He's got one of the two or three or four

815
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:47,479
Speaker 1: best jobs in the country. He's proven he's winning big,

816
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: so I would say I didn't read much into that

817
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 1: report and I don't really have a take beside, like,

818
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:00,919
Speaker 1: I bet he's coaching Oregon next year. I wouldn't bet

819
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: my life on it, but if I was a betting

820
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 1: man right now, I would say he's coaching Oregon in

821
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 1: two thousand and twenty five. How would you rank the

822
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 1: AFC teams the Chiefs don't want to face. I know

823
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 1: they aren't as talented, but I can't help but feel

824
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 1: the Chargers would be one of their least desirable matchups.

825
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 1: Second question, what would the ideal path for the Chargers

826
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 1: be to reach the AFC championship. Herbert plus Harbaugh rivals

827
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 1: every other head coaching combo, and I think this team

828
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 1: matches very well with AFC opponents. That's a good question.

829
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 1: I would say the Chiefs are very comfortable playing Lamar Jackson.

830
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:40,919
Speaker 1: I mean, these people think I'm a Lamar Jackson hater,

831
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 1: but again that is on my side. I think the

832
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 1: Chiefs if were picking the top teams, they would Lamar

833
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 1: Jackson and Russell Wilson. They would be okay playing. I

834
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: would say the two guys. They would much rather play

835
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 1: those two quarterbacks than they would Josh Allen and Justin Herbert.

836
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 1: Now we're gonna lose a we're gonna learn a lot

837
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: about the Chargers. Who played the Chiefs in a good

838
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 1: game earlier this season. Don't remember that much about it,

839
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 1: but I'm pretty sure the score was close. They play

840
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 1: the Chiefs played the Steelers coming up the Chargers. So

841
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 1: the Chargers play the Ravens this week. I didn't even

842
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 1: realize that Chargers play the Ravens a Monday night football.

843
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 1: That's a good Monday night football game. So I think

844
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 1: we'll learn a lot about Jim Harbaugh's defense because if

845
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: he takes out Lamar Jackson, then you'd say that they'd

846
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: be comfortable playing those teams and the Chiefs, you know.

847
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 1: I think what ends up happening is there's a g

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Speaker 1: if the Chargers win that game, the Chargers are gonna

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Speaker 1: be the five seed. So the Chargers route would be

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Speaker 1: the Texans in the first round as the four or five.

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Speaker 1: I think there's a decent chance the Chargers could be

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Speaker 1: favored in that game if anything'd be a pick them.

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Speaker 1: So the Chargers win that game, then they would play

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs. Assuming the Ravens the Steelers or the Bills.

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Speaker 1: You know, in some form worked the two three. I

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Speaker 1: guess in this scenario, with the Chargers beating the Ravens,

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Speaker 1: the Steelers would be the three seed and the Bills

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Speaker 1: would probably be the two or vice versa. And if

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Speaker 1: one of those two teams beats the Ravens in the

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Speaker 1: first round, then they would play each other in the

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Speaker 1: second round, So then it would be Chargers, Chiefs, Bill,

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Speaker 1: Steelers or Bill's Ravens. I guess potentially, if the Ravens

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Speaker 1: were to lose, I'm pretty sure you reseed in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: so it could be Ravens, Chiefs, Chargers, Bills. I think

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Speaker 1: if you're the Chargers, you would rather play the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: because you know, you're comfortable new staff. But Harbaugh and

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Speaker 1: Mentor and Greg Roman will have played Andy Reid and Spags.

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Speaker 1: That would be the third time playing them, so I

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Speaker 1: would say they're the easiest path would be because they're

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Speaker 1: gonna get road games beside. Basically probably in all of them,

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Speaker 1: it would be the Texans, then the Chiefs, and then

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Speaker 1: you just you know, you would rather avoid the Bills

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Speaker 1: and get probably the Steelers. I would say, I know

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Speaker 1: the Steelers beat them this year, but Herbert got hurt

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Speaker 1: in that game. They lost twenty to ten. That's probably

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Speaker 1: I think the route I would go. I would say Texans, Chiefs, Steelers.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate everyone listening. Have a great day and we will

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Speaker 1: see you after Thursday night football the Steelers against the

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns. The Doug Pown have a great day. Audios.

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