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Speaker 1: the podcast Chuck. I'm flying, Chuck. Chuck. Brian is sleeping
Speaker 1: right now flying um. He appears to be having some
Speaker 1: sort of dream, possibly lucid dream. I'm flying? Are you awake? Chucky?
Speaker 1: So lame it was? Should we keep it? Sure? Yeah?
Speaker 1: How was your How is your sleep? You're feeling refreshed?
Speaker 1: I am, I'm feeling great and awake. And you were
Speaker 1: flying just now? I was. Were you aware that you
Speaker 1: were flying in the dream and that maybe that's a
Speaker 1: little abnormal? I was, well, Chuck, my friend, you were
Speaker 1: having what is called a lucid dream. Wow, we should
Speaker 1: talk about that. Yeah, we should. I mean, like, this
Speaker 1: is this is podcast old. You just happen to be
Speaker 1: having a lucid dreams And both of us have the
Speaker 1: how Lucid Dreams Work article in front of us, right
Speaker 1: in front of us, written by Katie Lambert, who's actually
Speaker 1: an editor by day and apparently a lucid dream writer
Speaker 1: by night. And we should say that this we've probably
Speaker 1: gotten more fan mail requests for Lucid Dream podcast than
Speaker 1: any other. I mean literally dozens and dozens of requests
Speaker 1: for this, so we can't read down the list of
Speaker 1: names because I haven't kept them. But this is for
Speaker 1: all of you. Yes, thanks to all of you for
Speaker 1: writing in and saying do it now. So we are Yep,
Speaker 1: this is it. Let's just get this over with, shall
Speaker 1: we think? We're gonna teach you how to lucid dreams
Speaker 1: so you won't ever have to you know, you can
Speaker 1: do it yourself, which I find interesting. Are you planning
Speaker 1: on doing this? I'm gonna try it for sure. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna try it to if I can remember. I get
Speaker 1: very tired before I sleep. I've heard that. So back
Speaker 1: to the beginning, right, alright, chuck um, So while you
Speaker 1: were flying in your dream, the fact that you were
Speaker 1: aware that you were flying in that it was weird
Speaker 1: and aware that it was dreaming, right, correct? Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 1: that that is what makes it a lucid dream. That's
Speaker 1: pretty much. An elucid dream is a dream where we
Speaker 1: realize we're dreaming. That's the hallmark of it. Right, You're
Speaker 1: still dreaming and you're you can control what happens. In
Speaker 1: your dream that my friend is up for debate. Yes,
Speaker 1: the control part is up for debate. There's nobody. It's
Speaker 1: not me, buddy. I would never say that to you
Speaker 1: if other people hadn't already um there there there is
Speaker 1: a big debate actually over you know, not whether whether
Speaker 1: or not lucid dreams exist, that's taken as fact, but
Speaker 1: whether or not we can control what goes on in
Speaker 1: our dreams, which is the other aspect of lucid dreaming generally,
Speaker 1: Like you know, what did did you adjust your yaw
Speaker 1: at any point in time while you're flying in your dreaming?
Speaker 1: You have great y'all control. So Chuck, let's let's get
Speaker 1: let's kick this puppy off show. Okay, are you gonna
Speaker 1: kick this puppy off? You know, lucid dreaming has been
Speaker 1: around for a while, chuckers. Yeah. I think they said
Speaker 1: they traced it back to the eighteen hundreds and even
Speaker 1: though even before Aristotle, right, you know it's funny, is
Speaker 1: you just confused your research for a body dysmorphic disorder? Yeah,
Speaker 1: which we'll get to in about twenty minutes or two
Speaker 1: or three days for you folks. Yeah, okay, yes, Aristotle
Speaker 1: much further back than the eighteen hundreds wrote about lucid dreaming.
Speaker 1: He did. He didn't call it lucid dreaming, but he
Speaker 1: described it in one of his writings. Um, And apparently
Speaker 1: Tibetan Buddhists have been engaged in trying to control their
Speaker 1: dreams lucid dreaming. Uh, not quite as far back as Aristotle,
Speaker 1: if I'm incorrect, because I think Aristotle came oh a
Speaker 1: thousand or so years before Buddha. But they have something
Speaker 1: called dream yoga. Yeah, that sounds pretty cool. It does.
Speaker 1: The name alone sounds pretty cool. Have you ever done yoga? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's pretty difficult. I thought I found it difficult. It
Speaker 1: is that like bending over right. Plus I think being,
Speaker 1: you know, slightly overweight thirty eight year old is not
Speaker 1: the time to start doing yoga. Well, the apparently there's
Speaker 1: never a wrong time to start, but you just kind
Speaker 1: of have to go in and go. I'm going to
Speaker 1: shoot a duck at some point in time, and yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a young man's sport. If you ask me, it
Speaker 1: requires more yaw control than either one of us are
Speaker 1: capable of. Downward dog. So tell me a little bit
Speaker 1: about dream yoga. Schuckers Josh, dream yoga, as you said, Buddhist,
Speaker 1: why are you giggling? That's funny? Uh? That is your
Speaker 1: your goal there is to probe your consciousness. And basically
Speaker 1: it's sort of like enlightenment, bring yourself to a constant
Speaker 1: state of awareness, right, because I mean, if you're which
Speaker 1: is a tenant of Buddhism, like just to see things
Speaker 1: as they are. But why waste all of your you know,
Speaker 1: conscious awareness on um, I guess waking life? Why you know,
Speaker 1: take time off while you're sleeping. Yeah, so apparently dream
Speaker 1: yoga is actually like being cognizant that you're dreaming and
Speaker 1: then saying, okay, hey, why am I dreaming about this?
Speaker 1: Or you know, why is that dog attacking me? Rather
Speaker 1: than you know, curling up in my feet? So it's
Speaker 1: a goal for constant awareness. And they figured, hey, why
Speaker 1: take the night off, Let's just carry this right into sleep, right,
Speaker 1: because that's what Buddhists do. They have a work ethic
Speaker 1: like you would not believe, my friend, how do you
Speaker 1: feel about that about people going up to like the
Speaker 1: mountains and just meditating for their entire lives productive member
Speaker 1: of society or no, oh yeah, why not? What are
Speaker 1: they doing. It's like, that's the most egocentric pursuit of
Speaker 1: human can engage in. You think, going sequestering yourself from
Speaker 1: the rest of humanity to to achieve nirvana or enlightenment
Speaker 1: and just you know, probably dying the moment you get it.
Speaker 1: What's what's the point? What have you done? As a
Speaker 1: social animal, which humans are by nature? You have brought
Speaker 1: nothing to the table. You probably didn't even bother to
Speaker 1: reproduce while you're up there. Well, I think there are
Speaker 1: many paths, my friend, and that you don't have to
Speaker 1: be a contributing member of society to be validated as
Speaker 1: a human. You're a hippie. I think I'm just jealous.
Speaker 1: I would love to spend the rest of my life
Speaker 1: on a mountaintops. God, I would get so bored. I
Speaker 1: would drive myself crazy. If I had to be alone
Speaker 1: in a cave with myself, I would go nuts. All right.
Speaker 1: So that's dream yoga, which is also called nondual awareness, right,
Speaker 1: it's another name for it yet, which mystics like to
Speaker 1: call it, but it's essentially the same thing. It's exploring
Speaker 1: what's going on in your dreams and trying to figure
Speaker 1: out why, which actually kind of falls into one. Um
Speaker 1: one camp of the explanation for dreams, it's pretty much
Speaker 1: split down the middle between physiological and psychological. That would
Speaker 1: be that would subscribe to the psychological camp that when
Speaker 1: we dream, we're basically our our innermost fears desires. But
Speaker 1: you know how when they say, like, um uh, the
Speaker 1: drunk person, the words of a drunk man, or the
Speaker 1: thoughts of a soberman. Yeah, in vino veratas, I think,
Speaker 1: is that right? Well, I mean so more concept, my goodness,
Speaker 1: chuck you like that? In wine there's truth. Of course,
Speaker 1: we all know that. Gotcha? Sure, um man, I'm impressed
Speaker 1: with you right now because I spoke a dead language.
Speaker 1: Yes it's not dead, though. You're gonna get us some
Speaker 1: listener mail. Um So. The psychological camp, which was spearheaded
Speaker 1: by Sigmund Freud, said that our dreams were trying to
Speaker 1: tell us something. Essentially, your mind is telling you something like, hey, um,
Speaker 1: you eat way too many doughnuts because your mother neglected
Speaker 1: to breastfeed you. Something like that, especially along the Freudian lines,
Speaker 1: because everything was about sex and specifically having sex with
Speaker 1: your mother. To Freud, yeah, a lot of it came
Speaker 1: back to that. For sure, although he did say sometimes
Speaker 1: the cigar is just a cigar. That is true as well.
Speaker 1: But no, to him, anything that was even slightly phallic
Speaker 1: in nature represented a pallast and anything that was an
Speaker 1: opening or a hole or something like that was vaginal
Speaker 1: in nature. He saw the world very much in black
Speaker 1: and white, and it was the aduct of his society,
Speaker 1: the uber repressed Victorian society. So, I mean his theories
Speaker 1: were kind of dated. Yeah, I guess so. And actually
Speaker 1: lucid dreamer, not that I not that I am aware of. Curious,
Speaker 1: you know who did? A Dutch psychiatrist named Frederick von Aiden.
Speaker 1: He's the guy who came up with the word lucid dreaming.
Speaker 1: And he was actually very much into his dreams. He
Speaker 1: kept counting of them, and he found that he flew
Speaker 1: in a lot of them, and apparently that he could
Speaker 1: control them, and this is where the lucid dreaming, the
Speaker 1: term lucid dreaming came from. Pretty cool. He also said
Speaker 1: that there were nine different kinds of dreams, and only nine.
Speaker 1: I'd like to see that list. I didn't see that
Speaker 1: list anywhere, I know, but I could see that my
Speaker 1: dreams are generally kind of I could categorize in nine
Speaker 1: different groups. I find the number nine daunting. That's a
Speaker 1: lot of different dreams I have to have at night.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't want that kind of responsibility. You know, well,
Speaker 1: I don't think you always have to have all nine.
Speaker 1: I think that that's just the broad category they would
Speaker 1: fall under, Like you may always have dreams that you're
Speaker 1: naked at work, which means whatever. I'm not sure what
Speaker 1: that means. I don't either. What do you think that means?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean when you go to dream
Speaker 1: books and things like that, there's usually a bunch of
Speaker 1: different conflicting theories. I used to have a dream that
Speaker 1: my teeth were either falling out or being or chattering,
Speaker 1: and I've heard different different explanations were choking me. Have
Speaker 1: you had that one too? It's just it's that that Wow,
Speaker 1: it's that jah voo again. No it's not. It's deja vu.
Speaker 1: No it's not. It's you bringing up something that's already
Speaker 1: been brought up. Have I said this before? Dude? This
Speaker 1: happens a lot. Chuck Eggs Benedict, alright, mo Beta, okay,
Speaker 1: I mean come on, Chuck' sorry, I have no no
Speaker 1: explanation for this. So I think if if you are
Speaker 1: having a lucid dream where you're in control and you
Speaker 1: still show up to work naked, does that make you
Speaker 1: a sick of Yes, okay for sure, Well chuck. Lucid
Speaker 1: dreaming and the fact that it's even a concept that's
Speaker 1: being discussed right now. The only reason we shlves are
Speaker 1: talking about it is because of a guy named Stephen Lebert. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's he's kind of the leading researcher for this. He's
Speaker 1: a Stanford guy, Stanford many psycho psycho physiologist. Yeah, which
Speaker 1: I imagine you go, you get some schooling to get
Speaker 1: that title. Yeah, probably some dark days in that man's
Speaker 1: life with that kind of title. Yeah, And he got
Speaker 1: one from Stanford, which legitimizes him to a certain extent
Speaker 1: in my opinion. Right, he calls himself a dream sailor,
Speaker 1: which de legitimizes him to a certain extent. In my opinion,
Speaker 1: I would call myself a psycho physiologist for no doubt. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's he's the he's the leading man in this category.
Speaker 1: And he runs workshops actually where he will teach you
Speaker 1: how to locid dream. And apparently they ain't cheap you know,
Speaker 1: a few thousand dollars, right, Yeah, And he'll also say that,
Speaker 1: and I'm not saying this guy's a scammer. Of course
Speaker 1: it might be completely valid, but he says, oh, sometimes
Speaker 1: it'll take you several months of this too, several workshops,
Speaker 1: several paychecks to learn how to locid dream And you
Speaker 1: can either go to Dr Lebert's UM Lucid Dreaming Workshop
Speaker 1: where you can just read this article because there's some
Speaker 1: actual um methods of teaching how how to lucid dreams. Right,
Speaker 1: we're not gonna do that right now that we're right, No,
Speaker 1: I think we should talk a little bit about dreaming
Speaker 1: part of the brain. Remember I said that there's two camps, psychological, right,
Speaker 1: and then the physiological. The physiological kind of came onto
Speaker 1: the scene in ninety seven, I believe came on like Gangbusters. Well, Josh,
Speaker 1: I think before we can talk about how to lucid
Speaker 1: dream we should talk about what lucid dreaming actually is
Speaker 1: on the bo or not biological, but the physiological. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the other camp. There's a psychological and then there's
Speaker 1: the physiological as well. So we know we do know
Speaker 1: that lucid dreaming occurs during rim sleep, which is the
Speaker 1: fifth sleep stage when your body is just basically motionless.
Speaker 1: Your your body is literally paralyzed FIAT, and you don't
Speaker 1: have any sensory input as far as anybody knows, um,
Speaker 1: and you can't move except for your yeah, your eyelids.
Speaker 1: And they this uh Stephen character has researched set up
Speaker 1: studies where they would have a pre planned eye movement. Correct,
Speaker 1: feel yourself falling into a lucid dream, you would signal
Speaker 1: the researcher, Hey, I'm having a lucid dream now right.
Speaker 1: So Liberisi and some of his crew hooked up some
Speaker 1: people who I guess reportedly had lucid dreams to an
Speaker 1: electro and cephalogram and measured their brain activity, the electrical
Speaker 1: activity in their brains um and then yeah, prearranged the signal.
Speaker 1: I didn't did you get the impression what the signal was?
Speaker 1: But you have fluttered or something like that. I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe a certain pattern of eye flutters or something. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Basically, it was somebody communicating from their their
Speaker 1: dream state. Yeah, they were saying, I'm having a lucid
Speaker 1: dream right now. That is super creepy and super cool. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's the closest that's the only evidence that we have,
Speaker 1: the only physical evidence that we have that there is
Speaker 1: such thing as lucid dreams. Right, but it actually worked, Right,
Speaker 1: it did work. And that's that's not really supposed to happen, Chuck,
Speaker 1: Like we're we're basically our brain is supposed to be
Speaker 1: shut down, or at least the part of the brain
Speaker 1: that is um capable of, you know, sending a message
Speaker 1: from the dream world, you know, to the waking life
Speaker 1: world where a bunch of people are standing around you
Speaker 1: in white lab coats like watching your eyelids. Good point, thanks,
Speaker 1: very astute. Thanks So Chuck, what was that? I don't know, um,
Speaker 1: what's going on in the actual brain too, that they
Speaker 1: could explain lucid dreaming, because you know, we shouldn't, we
Speaker 1: should be basically slaves to our dream states. Well, there's
Speaker 1: a doctor at Berkeley, you know this, Matthew Walker. Dr
Speaker 1: Matthew Walkers, a New York cardiologist. He uh, he's the
Speaker 1: director of a sleep lab in California at Berkeley, and
Speaker 1: he and that's this theory kind of makes sense to me. Uh.
Speaker 1: The lateral prefrontal cortex is the part of the brain
Speaker 1: that deals with logic and what he thinks is during
Speaker 1: rem sleep, this part of the brain is supposed to
Speaker 1: be asleep, but he thinks it's possible that actually wakes up.
Speaker 1: So your dream state and logic are both firing at
Speaker 1: the same time, So the dreamer is able to kind
Speaker 1: of recognize that you're actually dreaming, right, because since you know,
Speaker 1: if the logical part of your brain is working, you'd
Speaker 1: be like, I don't really fly, must be dreaming. Or
Speaker 1: I'm falling now and I'm going to die yes, or
Speaker 1: another common dream. How about a Apparently lucid dreams are
Speaker 1: often sexy. Sexy dreams control erotic in nature. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: have a lot of celebrity dreams where I'm friends with
Speaker 1: some of my celebrity heroes. I have them all the time, well,
Speaker 1: not all the time. I have like five or six
Speaker 1: really detailed good ones a year that I'm like buddying
Speaker 1: around with Larry David or Gene Ween. Yeah, bo Luke, dude,
Speaker 1: three of us. I'm writing Shotgun. He bet I do.
Speaker 1: Though my Emily always cracks ups. You think it's funny,
Speaker 1: So Chuck, let's um undermine Stephen Levert's just thousands of
Speaker 1: dollars per workshop. Come on and teach people how to
Speaker 1: have lucid dreams. Okay, let's do it. At the very least,
Speaker 1: we're gonna give you a few techniques that you could try.
Speaker 1: We make absolutely no claims that this will work, so
Speaker 1: we don't even try to sue us if it doesn't.
Speaker 1: But it's worth a shot. I think it makes sense. First,
Speaker 1: the first thing you have to be good at his
Speaker 1: dream recall. That's kind of like the setup you should
Speaker 1: do is keep a dream diary, they say, a dream journal,
Speaker 1: and you know, keep some paper in a pin next
Speaker 1: to your bed, and when you wake up, right down
Speaker 1: what you're dreaming, even if it's in the middle of
Speaker 1: the night. And um, as you as you do that,
Speaker 1: you'll become more attuned to the process and you'll kind
Speaker 1: of train yourself to remember your dreams. Yeah, so that's
Speaker 1: a good start. Yeah. And uh, another another good technique,
Speaker 1: I guess is a mnemonic induction of lucid dreaming. You
Speaker 1: heard of this one, m I L D mild Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is one of Lebert's techniques, so apparently he's given
Speaker 1: it away. Um. Basically, what you do is when you
Speaker 1: wake up from a dream, you try to recall it
Speaker 1: important um, and then as you're going back to sleep.
Speaker 1: This apparently would work best in the middle of the
Speaker 1: night when you go back to sleep, you are you.
Speaker 1: You keep reminding yourself that you're about to start dreaming,
Speaker 1: and pretty soon you're gonna you're going to dream again,
Speaker 1: and you actually want to go back to the last
Speaker 1: dream you had, so you're you're controlling things from the
Speaker 1: outset um. And then once you get to that dream again,
Speaker 1: you're gonna start you want to actively look for what
Speaker 1: Libert's calls dream signs. The dream sailor calls these dream
Speaker 1: signs um. Right, Well, like if you have wings or
Speaker 1: you're flying. So you're looking for these kind of things,
Speaker 1: and you remind yourself that you're dreaming, um. And that
Speaker 1: apparently puts you in the driver's seat of your dreams
Speaker 1: and can give you lucid dreams that you're in control.
Speaker 1: I would have called myself the dream weaver. I would
Speaker 1: never call you that. Okay, um, they say, and this
Speaker 1: was a little extra research, Josh, I'm gonna lay on you. Um.
Speaker 1: There's some old Mexican and Indian techniques in their cultures
Speaker 1: where you can look at your hands during a dream.
Speaker 1: Have you heard that one? No? Apparently, if you look
Speaker 1: at your hands during a dream, that's a signal that
Speaker 1: you can take control of it from that point on.
Speaker 1: But I guess you would have to be in control
Speaker 1: to look at your hands in the dreams. So I
Speaker 1: don't know about that one. Yeah, but I'd be more
Speaker 1: willing to trust some like ancient culture practice than than
Speaker 1: this crackpot out in California. Well they have, they have
Speaker 1: more staying power. Yeah, yeah, so that's I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna try that one. I'm gonna try and see if
Speaker 1: I can look at my hands because I don't notice
Speaker 1: if I even see my hands in my dreams. Well,
Speaker 1: my all time favorite lucid dreaming technique is called reality testing.
Speaker 1: Yeah late on me, and it actually falls in line
Speaker 1: with the Buddhist dream yoga, where basically you walk around
Speaker 1: all day going I'm in my waking state, I'm in
Speaker 1: conscious reality. Like when I opened when I turned this
Speaker 1: door knob, this door is going to open, and it's
Speaker 1: just gonna be a regular room behind it because I
Speaker 1: can predict things because this world is based on rationality
Speaker 1: and logic, right, So you basically just remind yourself that
Speaker 1: you're not dreaming all day, in the hopes that when
Speaker 1: you start to dream, you will be aware of the separation,
Speaker 1: the border between our dream state and waking life. And
Speaker 1: you can carry this over and say, now I'm dreaming.
Speaker 1: When I opened this door, there's going to be like
Speaker 1: an eight headed dog on the other side. If you
Speaker 1: have to speak like your dreams, I've heard it helps. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's good. Yeah, um, yeah, that's that's how I talk
Speaker 1: when I'm dreaming or when I'm reminding myself of anything
Speaker 1: like no, I've got to take the garbage out tonight. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I should really not drink this evening. That kind of thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, that's a dream uh nova dreamer. You want
Speaker 1: to talk about this thing, But this is an actual
Speaker 1: contraption that the same doctor in California Liberts has built,
Speaker 1: I guess, and it is u. Katie describes it as
Speaker 1: a cross between a sleep mask and goggles. So you
Speaker 1: wear this puppy when you go to sleep, and what
Speaker 1: it does is when it when it knows you're in
Speaker 1: rim sleep, sensors track your eye movements to to let
Speaker 1: it know, and then it shines a light in your eye. Right.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like looking at your hands. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: ancient technique, but you have a reliable reminder, right, so
Speaker 1: it shines a light in your eye and then your dream.
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess you stay asleep. I personally would
Speaker 1: wake up if someone's shine a light in my eye
Speaker 1: and be like what the Yeah exactly, and uh so
Speaker 1: that's the signal you know you're dreaming at the time,
Speaker 1: and you just take it from there. Yeah. Can we
Speaker 1: be done with this now? Well, I think the dream
Speaker 1: weaver thellar question, Josh, have you ever had a lucid dream?
Speaker 1: I don't you know what, Chuck, I don't remember my
Speaker 1: dreams very often. I have, Yes, I have once. Let's
Speaker 1: hear it. Do you really want to hear it? A
Speaker 1: truncated version, sure, the twenty two minute version. Um, I
Speaker 1: I was basically I had a theme song. I wasn't
Speaker 1: actually a pimp, but like kind of like in the
Speaker 1: very slangy version of the word pimp, like it just
Speaker 1: kind of walking along like what's up? My dog ran
Speaker 1: past me? But it was a she was a balloon dog,
Speaker 1: like a balloon animal. And um that was about it.
Speaker 1: That was about all I remember. But it was one
Speaker 1: of the very few times where I was ever like
Speaker 1: this is cool, and that to me is about the
Speaker 1: same as I'm dreaming, Like I was aware that I
Speaker 1: was enjoying like this dream while I was in the dream.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I think that's probably the
Speaker 1: closest I've had to a lucid dream. Ask me, well, Chuck,
Speaker 1: is a time for listener mail, Chuck, tell me about
Speaker 1: your lucid dream, buddy. Well, I don't have one specifically,
Speaker 1: but it does happen to me from time to time
Speaker 1: where I'll be aware that I'm dreaming and really digging
Speaker 1: the dream and manipulating where I'm going in the dream
Speaker 1: and where do you go? Well, wherever Disney World, wherever
Speaker 1: I feel like at the time, so where I'm a
Speaker 1: dream sailor so you can't box me, and wherever the
Speaker 1: high seas take me. So yeah, I've lucid dreamt And
Speaker 1: I also, um, I'm pretty good at waking up from
Speaker 1: a dream that I was really enjoying and falling back
Speaker 1: asleep and going back into that dreams. You just love
Speaker 1: to tease yourself, huh. Yeah, And I'm a light sleeper.
Speaker 1: So have you ever heard that if you tell people
Speaker 1: about your dreams. They'll like, if you have a nightmare
Speaker 1: and you tell somebody the nightmare in detail, like, you
Speaker 1: won't have it again. I have not, what's up with that?
Speaker 1: And I've had plenty of recurring dreams too. Oh well,
Speaker 1: if you ever have a dream that you saddled with
Speaker 1: a nightmare or something like that, the sooner you tell
Speaker 1: somebody about it, the more likely you are to not
Speaker 1: have it the next time you go to sleep. Dr
Speaker 1: Clark speaks, Yep, that's it for me. We're gonna do
Speaker 1: a big dream podcast at some point. But the how
Speaker 1: Dreams Work article is thick and voluminous and filled with
Speaker 1: stats in numbers and Chuck and our drooling over it.
Speaker 1: So look for how dreaming works in the future. Absolutely
Speaker 1: Until then, Chuck, let's do uh listen to mail. Josh.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call this stuff we should know, and I
Speaker 1: also have a special little shout out at the end
Speaker 1: of it that's nothing to do with the mail. Okay,
Speaker 1: So this is from Mason and Ames Iowa. And remember
Speaker 1: when we talked about the carbon dioxide pipelines and how
Speaker 1: there's never been any accident deaths in that kind of thing,
Speaker 1: or there's been accents but no fittalent. Wait, hold on,
Speaker 1: how how did it go? Let's listen, we're talking between
Speaker 1: six and two thousand six, there's only been twelve CEO
Speaker 1: two pipeline leaks with no injuries and none o yeah
Speaker 1: none zip and over the same period more than five
Speaker 1: thousand accidents within a hundred and seven fatalities with liquid
Speaker 1: um petroleum. So whoo whoop. It sounds like CEO two
Speaker 1: pipelines are away safer, but lot there's a lot fewer. Yeah, boy,
Speaker 1: that was a good one. That was awesome. Whoop whoop. Indeed,
Speaker 1: so Mason says, greetings, Josher's and Chuck Anoch is a
Speaker 1: little casual. I thought I thought so too, Mason. He
Speaker 1: says he just listened to the CCS Carbon Capture podcast. Oh,
Speaker 1: he's using CCS to impress his friends. Yeah, and he
Speaker 1: actually wrote down abbreviation, which I thought was kind of funny.
Speaker 1: I wonder if he's I can't say he grew up
Speaker 1: in a small town called Mule Shoe, Texas. And he says, um,
Speaker 1: that should make my listener male read worthy already. And
Speaker 1: he's right, But he said he grew up thirteen miles
Speaker 1: west of Mule Shoe, and about five miles from my house,
Speaker 1: there was a station on a carbon dioxide pipeline that
Speaker 1: tapped the CEO two and stored it in those huge
Speaker 1: cylindrical tanks and it was shipped on big semi trucks
Speaker 1: from that plant. So he says, way back in two
Speaker 1: thousand two there was a catastrophic failure and one of
Speaker 1: the tanks and actually killed a worker and injured three others.
Speaker 1: So the explosion shook all the dishes in our house
Speaker 1: from five miles away. That's pretty hardcore. And his father,
Speaker 1: who was an Air Force pilot, said he initially thought
Speaker 1: the noise was sonic boom from a jet, so he
Speaker 1: said it didn't act result from a leaking pipeline, but
Speaker 1: if there would have been no pipeline, there would have
Speaker 1: been no accident. Yeah, well, sorry about that, Mason. Sorry,
Speaker 1: we overlooked the local tragedy there. And mules Shoe, I'm
Speaker 1: surprised you can't hear about that. And now Josh for
Speaker 1: our special little shout out. What is it? Chuck? This
Speaker 1: is to Sully who was Uh sounds like one of
Speaker 1: your pals. Yeah, it's a kid, his mom wrote in
Speaker 1: His mom Kristen wrote in from southern California. And I
Speaker 1: know Jerry it was a big fan of this email
Speaker 1: as well, and if you read them you would be
Speaker 1: as well. And uh, Sully is Sullivan. He just sounds
Speaker 1: like a really cool little kid. He's about my nephew's
Speaker 1: age eleven and years old. I think, yeah, my my cousin,
Speaker 1: my nephew Noah, who was a very cool, smart kid,
Speaker 1: and they are both big fans of MythBusters and their
Speaker 1: really smart and into school and stuff. And Kristen just
Speaker 1: wrote us into thank us and I'm not gonna read
Speaker 1: her email, but um, we just wanted to say hi
Speaker 1: to Sully, and uh, thanks for listening. Little buddy, stay
Speaker 1: in school, keep studying, drink your milk, keep keep up
Speaker 1: what you're doing. Because your mom says you're a really cool,
Speaker 1: groovy kid. He loves modest mouse right on at eleven.
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, and they might be Giants nice
Speaker 1: and I believe my nephew no It is a big
Speaker 1: they might be Giants fan as well, so sweet, So
Speaker 1: we just cool kids. Yeah, I want to say hi
Speaker 1: and thanks for the support and keep listening. Thank you Sully,
Speaker 1: and uh, thank you Mason, thank you to everybody. Who
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