1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve camera. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to stuff you should know 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: from house Stuff Works dot com? Hey, and welcome to 4 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:23,479 Speaker 1: the podcast Chuck. I'm flying, Chuck. Chuck. Brian is sleeping 5 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:27,159 Speaker 1: right now flying um. He appears to be having some 6 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: sort of dream, possibly lucid dream. I'm flying? Are you awake? Chucky? 7 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,599 Speaker 1: So lame it was? Should we keep it? Sure? Yeah? 8 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:38,959 Speaker 1: How was your How is your sleep? You're feeling refreshed? 9 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,639 Speaker 1: I am, I'm feeling great and awake. And you were 10 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 1: flying just now? I was. Were you aware that you 11 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 1: were flying in the dream and that maybe that's a 12 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 1: little abnormal? I was, well, Chuck, my friend, you were 13 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: having what is called a lucid dream. Wow, we should 14 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: talk about that. Yeah, we should. I mean, like, this 15 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: is this is podcast old. You just happen to be 16 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: having a lucid dreams And both of us have the 17 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: how Lucid Dreams Work article in front of us, right 18 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: in front of us, written by Katie Lambert, who's actually 19 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: an editor by day and apparently a lucid dream writer 20 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:18,119 Speaker 1: by night. And we should say that this we've probably 21 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 1: gotten more fan mail requests for Lucid Dream podcast than 22 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: any other. I mean literally dozens and dozens of requests 23 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 1: for this, so we can't read down the list of 24 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: names because I haven't kept them. But this is for 25 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 1: all of you. Yes, thanks to all of you for 26 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 1: writing in and saying do it now. So we are Yep, 27 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: this is it. Let's just get this over with, shall 28 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: we think? We're gonna teach you how to lucid dreams 29 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: so you won't ever have to you know, you can 30 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: do it yourself, which I find interesting. Are you planning 31 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: on doing this? I'm gonna try it for sure. I'm 32 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: gonna try it to if I can remember. I get 33 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: very tired before I sleep. I've heard that. So back 34 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: to the beginning, right, alright, chuck um, So while you 35 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: were flying in your dream, the fact that you were 36 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: aware that you were flying in that it was weird 37 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: and aware that it was dreaming, right, correct? Yeah, Okay, 38 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: that that is what makes it a lucid dream. That's 39 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 1: pretty much. An elucid dream is a dream where we 40 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: realize we're dreaming. That's the hallmark of it. Right, You're 41 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: still dreaming and you're you can control what happens. In 42 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: your dream that my friend is up for debate. Yes, 43 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,959 Speaker 1: the control part is up for debate. There's nobody. It's 44 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: not me, buddy. I would never say that to you 45 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: if other people hadn't already um there there there is 46 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: a big debate actually over you know, not whether whether 47 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 1: or not lucid dreams exist, that's taken as fact, but 48 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: whether or not we can control what goes on in 49 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 1: our dreams, which is the other aspect of lucid dreaming generally, 50 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: Like you know, what did did you adjust your yaw 51 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: at any point in time while you're flying in your dreaming? 52 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: You have great y'all control. So Chuck, let's let's get 53 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,959 Speaker 1: let's kick this puppy off show. Okay, are you gonna 54 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: kick this puppy off? You know, lucid dreaming has been 55 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: around for a while, chuckers. Yeah. I think they said 56 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: they traced it back to the eighteen hundreds and even 57 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: though even before Aristotle, right, you know it's funny, is 58 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: you just confused your research for a body dysmorphic disorder? Yeah, 59 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: which we'll get to in about twenty minutes or two 60 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: or three days for you folks. Yeah, okay, yes, Aristotle 61 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 1: much further back than the eighteen hundreds wrote about lucid dreaming. 62 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 1: He did. He didn't call it lucid dreaming, but he 63 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: described it in one of his writings. Um, And apparently 64 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: Tibetan Buddhists have been engaged in trying to control their 65 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: dreams lucid dreaming. Uh, not quite as far back as Aristotle, 66 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: if I'm incorrect, because I think Aristotle came oh a 67 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: thousand or so years before Buddha. But they have something 68 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: called dream yoga. Yeah, that sounds pretty cool. It does. 69 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: The name alone sounds pretty cool. Have you ever done yoga? Yeah, 70 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: it's pretty difficult. I thought I found it difficult. It 71 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: is that like bending over right. Plus I think being, 72 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: you know, slightly overweight thirty eight year old is not 73 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: the time to start doing yoga. Well, the apparently there's 74 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: never a wrong time to start, but you just kind 75 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: of have to go in and go. I'm going to 76 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: shoot a duck at some point in time, and yeah, 77 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: it's a young man's sport. If you ask me, it 78 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: requires more yaw control than either one of us are 79 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: capable of. Downward dog. So tell me a little bit 80 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: about dream yoga. Schuckers Josh, dream yoga, as you said, Buddhist, 81 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: why are you giggling? That's funny? Uh? That is your 82 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: your goal there is to probe your consciousness. And basically 83 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: it's sort of like enlightenment, bring yourself to a constant 84 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 1: state of awareness, right, because I mean, if you're which 85 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,559 Speaker 1: is a tenant of Buddhism, like just to see things 86 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: as they are. But why waste all of your you know, 87 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: conscious awareness on um, I guess waking life? Why you know, 88 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: take time off while you're sleeping. Yeah, so apparently dream 89 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: yoga is actually like being cognizant that you're dreaming and 90 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: then saying, okay, hey, why am I dreaming about this? 91 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: Or you know, why is that dog attacking me? Rather 92 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 1: than you know, curling up in my feet? So it's 93 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: a goal for constant awareness. And they figured, hey, why 94 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 1: take the night off, Let's just carry this right into sleep, right, 95 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: because that's what Buddhists do. They have a work ethic 96 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 1: like you would not believe, my friend, how do you 97 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: feel about that about people going up to like the 98 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 1: mountains and just meditating for their entire lives productive member 99 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: of society or no, oh yeah, why not? What are 100 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: they doing. It's like, that's the most egocentric pursuit of 101 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: human can engage in. You think, going sequestering yourself from 102 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: the rest of humanity to to achieve nirvana or enlightenment 103 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: and just you know, probably dying the moment you get it. 104 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: What's what's the point? What have you done? As a 105 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: social animal, which humans are by nature? You have brought 106 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: nothing to the table. You probably didn't even bother to 107 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: reproduce while you're up there. Well, I think there are 108 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 1: many paths, my friend, and that you don't have to 109 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 1: be a contributing member of society to be validated as 110 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: a human. You're a hippie. I think I'm just jealous. 111 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: I would love to spend the rest of my life 112 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: on a mountaintops. God, I would get so bored. I 113 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: would drive myself crazy. If I had to be alone 114 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: in a cave with myself, I would go nuts. All right. 115 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: So that's dream yoga, which is also called nondual awareness, right, 116 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: it's another name for it yet, which mystics like to 117 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: call it, but it's essentially the same thing. It's exploring 118 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: what's going on in your dreams and trying to figure 119 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: out why, which actually kind of falls into one. Um 120 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: one camp of the explanation for dreams, it's pretty much 121 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: split down the middle between physiological and psychological. That would 122 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 1: be that would subscribe to the psychological camp that when 123 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: we dream, we're basically our our innermost fears desires. But 124 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 1: you know how when they say, like, um uh, the 125 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: drunk person, the words of a drunk man, or the 126 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: thoughts of a soberman. Yeah, in vino veratas, I think, 127 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: is that right? Well, I mean so more concept, my goodness, 128 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: chuck you like that? In wine there's truth. Of course, 129 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: we all know that. Gotcha? Sure, um man, I'm impressed 130 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: with you right now because I spoke a dead language. 131 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: Yes it's not dead, though. You're gonna get us some 132 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: listener mail. Um So. The psychological camp, which was spearheaded 133 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: by Sigmund Freud, said that our dreams were trying to 134 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: tell us something. Essentially, your mind is telling you something like, hey, um, 135 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: you eat way too many doughnuts because your mother neglected 136 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: to breastfeed you. Something like that, especially along the Freudian lines, 137 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: because everything was about sex and specifically having sex with 138 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: your mother. To Freud, yeah, a lot of it came 139 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: back to that. For sure, although he did say sometimes 140 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: the cigar is just a cigar. That is true as well. 141 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: But no, to him, anything that was even slightly phallic 142 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: in nature represented a pallast and anything that was an 143 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: opening or a hole or something like that was vaginal 144 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: in nature. He saw the world very much in black 145 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: and white, and it was the aduct of his society, 146 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: the uber repressed Victorian society. So, I mean his theories 147 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: were kind of dated. Yeah, I guess so. And actually 148 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: lucid dreamer, not that I not that I am aware of. Curious, 149 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: you know who did? A Dutch psychiatrist named Frederick von Aiden. 150 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: He's the guy who came up with the word lucid dreaming. 151 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: And he was actually very much into his dreams. He 152 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: kept counting of them, and he found that he flew 153 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: in a lot of them, and apparently that he could 154 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 1: control them, and this is where the lucid dreaming, the 155 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: term lucid dreaming came from. Pretty cool. He also said 156 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: that there were nine different kinds of dreams, and only nine. 157 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: I'd like to see that list. I didn't see that 158 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: list anywhere, I know, but I could see that my 159 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: dreams are generally kind of I could categorize in nine 160 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: different groups. I find the number nine daunting. That's a 161 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: lot of different dreams I have to have at night. 162 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: I don't I don't want that kind of responsibility. You know, well, 163 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: I don't think you always have to have all nine. 164 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: I think that that's just the broad category they would 165 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: fall under, Like you may always have dreams that you're 166 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,959 Speaker 1: naked at work, which means whatever. I'm not sure what 167 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: that means. I don't either. What do you think that means? 168 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean when you go to dream 169 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: books and things like that, there's usually a bunch of 170 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: different conflicting theories. I used to have a dream that 171 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 1: my teeth were either falling out or being or chattering, 172 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 1: and I've heard different different explanations were choking me. Have 173 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:26,839 Speaker 1: you had that one too? It's just it's that that Wow, 174 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:31,079 Speaker 1: it's that jah voo again. No it's not. It's deja vu. 175 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:34,319 Speaker 1: No it's not. It's you bringing up something that's already 176 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: been brought up. Have I said this before? Dude? This 177 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: happens a lot. Chuck Eggs Benedict, alright, mo Beta, okay, 178 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 1: I mean come on, Chuck' sorry, I have no no 179 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: explanation for this. So I think if if you are 180 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: having a lucid dream where you're in control and you 181 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: still show up to work naked, does that make you 182 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: a sick of Yes, okay for sure, Well chuck. Lucid 183 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: dreaming and the fact that it's even a concept that's 184 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: being discussed right now. The only reason we shlves are 185 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: talking about it is because of a guy named Stephen Lebert. Yeah, 186 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: he's he's kind of the leading researcher for this. He's 187 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 1: a Stanford guy, Stanford many psycho psycho physiologist. Yeah, which 188 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:18,839 Speaker 1: I imagine you go, you get some schooling to get 189 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 1: that title. Yeah, probably some dark days in that man's 190 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:23,719 Speaker 1: life with that kind of title. Yeah, And he got 191 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: one from Stanford, which legitimizes him to a certain extent 192 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: in my opinion. Right, he calls himself a dream sailor, 193 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: which de legitimizes him to a certain extent. In my opinion, 194 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: I would call myself a psycho physiologist for no doubt. Yeah, 195 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: he's he's the he's the leading man in this category. 196 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: And he runs workshops actually where he will teach you 197 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 1: how to locid dream. And apparently they ain't cheap you know, 198 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: a few thousand dollars, right, Yeah, And he'll also say that, 199 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: and I'm not saying this guy's a scammer. Of course 200 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: it might be completely valid, but he says, oh, sometimes 201 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 1: it'll take you several months of this too, several workshops, 202 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: several paychecks to learn how to locid dream And you 203 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: can either go to Dr Lebert's UM Lucid Dreaming Workshop 204 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 1: where you can just read this article because there's some 205 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: actual um methods of teaching how how to lucid dreams. Right, 206 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 1: we're not gonna do that right now that we're right, No, 207 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: I think we should talk a little bit about dreaming 208 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: part of the brain. Remember I said that there's two camps, psychological, right, 209 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 1: and then the physiological. The physiological kind of came onto 210 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: the scene in ninety seven, I believe came on like Gangbusters. Well, Josh, 211 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: I think before we can talk about how to lucid 212 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: dream we should talk about what lucid dreaming actually is 213 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: on the bo or not biological, but the physiological. Yeah, 214 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: that's the other camp. There's a psychological and then there's 215 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: the physiological as well. So we know we do know 216 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: that lucid dreaming occurs during rim sleep, which is the 217 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: fifth sleep stage when your body is just basically motionless. 218 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: Your your body is literally paralyzed FIAT, and you don't 219 00:11:56,520 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: have any sensory input as far as anybody knows, um, 220 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: and you can't move except for your yeah, your eyelids. 221 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: And they this uh Stephen character has researched set up 222 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: studies where they would have a pre planned eye movement. Correct, 223 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 1: feel yourself falling into a lucid dream, you would signal 224 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: the researcher, Hey, I'm having a lucid dream now right. 225 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: So Liberisi and some of his crew hooked up some 226 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:27,439 Speaker 1: people who I guess reportedly had lucid dreams to an 227 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: electro and cephalogram and measured their brain activity, the electrical 228 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 1: activity in their brains um and then yeah, prearranged the signal. 229 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: I didn't did you get the impression what the signal was? 230 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: But you have fluttered or something like that. I don't know, 231 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: maybe a certain pattern of eye flutters or something. I 232 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 1: don't know. Basically, it was somebody communicating from their their 233 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: dream state. Yeah, they were saying, I'm having a lucid 234 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 1: dream right now. That is super creepy and super cool. Yeah, 235 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: but that's the closest that's the only evidence that we have, 236 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 1: the only physical evidence that we have that there is 237 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: such thing as lucid dreams. Right, but it actually worked, Right, 238 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: it did work. And that's that's not really supposed to happen, Chuck, 239 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,319 Speaker 1: Like we're we're basically our brain is supposed to be 240 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: shut down, or at least the part of the brain 241 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 1: that is um capable of, you know, sending a message 242 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 1: from the dream world, you know, to the waking life 243 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: world where a bunch of people are standing around you 244 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: in white lab coats like watching your eyelids. Good point, thanks, 245 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: very astute. Thanks So Chuck, what was that? I don't know, um, 246 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: what's going on in the actual brain too, that they 247 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: could explain lucid dreaming, because you know, we shouldn't, we 248 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 1: should be basically slaves to our dream states. Well, there's 249 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 1: a doctor at Berkeley, you know this, Matthew Walker. Dr 250 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 1: Matthew Walkers, a New York cardiologist. He uh, he's the 251 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 1: director of a sleep lab in California at Berkeley, and 252 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 1: he and that's this theory kind of makes sense to me. Uh. 253 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 1: The lateral prefrontal cortex is the part of the brain 254 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: that deals with logic and what he thinks is during 255 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: rem sleep, this part of the brain is supposed to 256 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: be asleep, but he thinks it's possible that actually wakes up. 257 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: So your dream state and logic are both firing at 258 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: the same time, So the dreamer is able to kind 259 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: of recognize that you're actually dreaming, right, because since you know, 260 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: if the logical part of your brain is working, you'd 261 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: be like, I don't really fly, must be dreaming. Or 262 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: I'm falling now and I'm going to die yes, or 263 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: another common dream. How about a Apparently lucid dreams are 264 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: often sexy. Sexy dreams control erotic in nature. Yeah, I 265 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: have a lot of celebrity dreams where I'm friends with 266 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: some of my celebrity heroes. I have them all the time, well, 267 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: not all the time. I have like five or six 268 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: really detailed good ones a year that I'm like buddying 269 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: around with Larry David or Gene Ween. Yeah, bo Luke, dude, 270 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: three of us. I'm writing Shotgun. He bet I do. 271 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: Though my Emily always cracks ups. You think it's funny, 272 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: So Chuck, let's um undermine Stephen Levert's just thousands of 273 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: dollars per workshop. Come on and teach people how to 274 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: have lucid dreams. Okay, let's do it. At the very least, 275 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: we're gonna give you a few techniques that you could try. 276 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: We make absolutely no claims that this will work, so 277 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: we don't even try to sue us if it doesn't. 278 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: But it's worth a shot. I think it makes sense. First, 279 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: the first thing you have to be good at his 280 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: dream recall. That's kind of like the setup you should 281 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: do is keep a dream diary, they say, a dream journal, 282 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: and you know, keep some paper in a pin next 283 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: to your bed, and when you wake up, right down 284 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: what you're dreaming, even if it's in the middle of 285 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: the night. And um, as you as you do that, 286 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: you'll become more attuned to the process and you'll kind 287 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: of train yourself to remember your dreams. Yeah, so that's 288 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: a good start. Yeah. And uh, another another good technique, 289 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: I guess is a mnemonic induction of lucid dreaming. You 290 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: heard of this one, m I L D mild Yeah, yeah, yeah, 291 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: this is one of Lebert's techniques, so apparently he's given 292 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: it away. Um. Basically, what you do is when you 293 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: wake up from a dream, you try to recall it 294 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: important um, and then as you're going back to sleep. 295 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: This apparently would work best in the middle of the 296 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: night when you go back to sleep, you are you. 297 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: You keep reminding yourself that you're about to start dreaming, 298 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: and pretty soon you're gonna you're going to dream again, 299 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: and you actually want to go back to the last 300 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: dream you had, so you're you're controlling things from the 301 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: outset um. And then once you get to that dream again, 302 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: you're gonna start you want to actively look for what 303 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: Libert's calls dream signs. The dream sailor calls these dream 304 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: signs um. Right, Well, like if you have wings or 305 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: you're flying. So you're looking for these kind of things, 306 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: and you remind yourself that you're dreaming, um. And that 307 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: apparently puts you in the driver's seat of your dreams 308 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: and can give you lucid dreams that you're in control. 309 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: I would have called myself the dream weaver. I would 310 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: never call you that. Okay, um, they say, and this 311 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: was a little extra research, Josh, I'm gonna lay on you. Um. 312 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,880 Speaker 1: There's some old Mexican and Indian techniques in their cultures 313 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: where you can look at your hands during a dream. 314 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: Have you heard that one? No? Apparently, if you look 315 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 1: at your hands during a dream, that's a signal that 316 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 1: you can take control of it from that point on. 317 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: But I guess you would have to be in control 318 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: to look at your hands in the dreams. So I 319 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,199 Speaker 1: don't know about that one. Yeah, but I'd be more 320 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 1: willing to trust some like ancient culture practice than than 321 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 1: this crackpot out in California. Well they have, they have 322 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 1: more staying power. Yeah, yeah, so that's I mean, I'm 323 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: gonna try that one. I'm gonna try and see if 324 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: I can look at my hands because I don't notice 325 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: if I even see my hands in my dreams. Well, 326 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:55,360 Speaker 1: my all time favorite lucid dreaming technique is called reality testing. 327 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:57,880 Speaker 1: Yeah late on me, and it actually falls in line 328 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: with the Buddhist dream yoga, where basically you walk around 329 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 1: all day going I'm in my waking state, I'm in 330 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: conscious reality. Like when I opened when I turned this 331 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 1: door knob, this door is going to open, and it's 332 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: just gonna be a regular room behind it because I 333 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: can predict things because this world is based on rationality 334 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: and logic, right, So you basically just remind yourself that 335 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,360 Speaker 1: you're not dreaming all day, in the hopes that when 336 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: you start to dream, you will be aware of the separation, 337 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:29,959 Speaker 1: the border between our dream state and waking life. And 338 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 1: you can carry this over and say, now I'm dreaming. 339 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,479 Speaker 1: When I opened this door, there's going to be like 340 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 1: an eight headed dog on the other side. If you 341 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: have to speak like your dreams, I've heard it helps. Yeah, 342 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: it's good. Yeah, um, yeah, that's that's how I talk 343 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 1: when I'm dreaming or when I'm reminding myself of anything 344 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: like no, I've got to take the garbage out tonight. Yeah, 345 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 1: I should really not drink this evening. That kind of thing. Yeah, 346 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: I know, that's a dream uh nova dreamer. You want 347 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: to talk about this thing, But this is an actual 348 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: contraption that the same doctor in California Liberts has built, 349 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:09,679 Speaker 1: I guess, and it is u. Katie describes it as 350 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: a cross between a sleep mask and goggles. So you 351 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,360 Speaker 1: wear this puppy when you go to sleep, and what 352 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: it does is when it when it knows you're in 353 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: rim sleep, sensors track your eye movements to to let 354 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 1: it know, and then it shines a light in your eye. Right. 355 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: It's kind of like looking at your hands. Yeah, the 356 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 1: ancient technique, but you have a reliable reminder, right, so 357 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: it shines a light in your eye and then your dream. 358 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess you stay asleep. I personally would 359 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 1: wake up if someone's shine a light in my eye 360 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 1: and be like what the Yeah exactly, and uh so 361 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 1: that's the signal you know you're dreaming at the time, 362 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: and you just take it from there. Yeah. Can we 363 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 1: be done with this now? Well, I think the dream 364 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: weaver thellar question, Josh, have you ever had a lucid dream? 365 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 1: I don't you know what, Chuck, I don't remember my 366 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: dreams very often. I have, Yes, I have once. Let's 367 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 1: hear it. Do you really want to hear it? A 368 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 1: truncated version, sure, the twenty two minute version. Um, I 369 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 1: I was basically I had a theme song. I wasn't 370 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: actually a pimp, but like kind of like in the 371 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: very slangy version of the word pimp, like it just 372 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: kind of walking along like what's up? My dog ran 373 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: past me? But it was a she was a balloon dog, 374 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 1: like a balloon animal. And um that was about it. 375 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: That was about all I remember. But it was one 376 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: of the very few times where I was ever like 377 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: this is cool, and that to me is about the 378 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: same as I'm dreaming, Like I was aware that I 379 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 1: was enjoying like this dream while I was in the dream. 380 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I think that's probably the 381 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: closest I've had to a lucid dream. Ask me, well, Chuck, 382 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 1: is a time for listener mail, Chuck, tell me about 383 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,439 Speaker 1: your lucid dream, buddy. Well, I don't have one specifically, 384 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: but it does happen to me from time to time 385 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 1: where I'll be aware that I'm dreaming and really digging 386 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 1: the dream and manipulating where I'm going in the dream 387 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 1: and where do you go? Well, wherever Disney World, wherever 388 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: I feel like at the time, so where I'm a 389 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: dream sailor so you can't box me, and wherever the 390 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 1: high seas take me. So yeah, I've lucid dreamt And 391 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: I also, um, I'm pretty good at waking up from 392 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: a dream that I was really enjoying and falling back 393 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 1: asleep and going back into that dreams. You just love 394 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 1: to tease yourself, huh. Yeah, And I'm a light sleeper. 395 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: So have you ever heard that if you tell people 396 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 1: about your dreams. They'll like, if you have a nightmare 397 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 1: and you tell somebody the nightmare in detail, like, you 398 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 1: won't have it again. I have not, what's up with that? 399 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: And I've had plenty of recurring dreams too. Oh well, 400 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: if you ever have a dream that you saddled with 401 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: a nightmare or something like that, the sooner you tell 402 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: somebody about it, the more likely you are to not 403 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 1: have it the next time you go to sleep. Dr 404 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: Clark speaks, Yep, that's it for me. We're gonna do 405 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: a big dream podcast at some point. But the how 406 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,199 Speaker 1: Dreams Work article is thick and voluminous and filled with 407 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: stats in numbers and Chuck and our drooling over it. 408 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: So look for how dreaming works in the future. Absolutely 409 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: Until then, Chuck, let's do uh listen to mail. Josh. 410 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna call this stuff we should know, and I 411 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: also have a special little shout out at the end 412 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 1: of it that's nothing to do with the mail. Okay, 413 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: So this is from Mason and Ames Iowa. And remember 414 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: when we talked about the carbon dioxide pipelines and how 415 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: there's never been any accident deaths in that kind of thing, 416 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 1: or there's been accents but no fittalent. Wait, hold on, 417 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: how how did it go? Let's listen, we're talking between 418 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: six and two thousand six, there's only been twelve CEO 419 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: two pipeline leaks with no injuries and none o yeah 420 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: none zip and over the same period more than five 421 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 1: thousand accidents within a hundred and seven fatalities with liquid 422 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: um petroleum. So whoo whoop. It sounds like CEO two 423 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 1: pipelines are away safer, but lot there's a lot fewer. Yeah, boy, 424 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 1: that was a good one. That was awesome. Whoop whoop. Indeed, 425 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 1: so Mason says, greetings, Josher's and Chuck Anoch is a 426 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: little casual. I thought I thought so too, Mason. He 427 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: says he just listened to the CCS Carbon Capture podcast. Oh, 428 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: he's using CCS to impress his friends. Yeah, and he 429 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,400 Speaker 1: actually wrote down abbreviation, which I thought was kind of funny. 430 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: I wonder if he's I can't say he grew up 431 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 1: in a small town called Mule Shoe, Texas. And he says, um, 432 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: that should make my listener male read worthy already. And 433 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: he's right, But he said he grew up thirteen miles 434 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 1: west of Mule Shoe, and about five miles from my house, 435 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: there was a station on a carbon dioxide pipeline that 436 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,439 Speaker 1: tapped the CEO two and stored it in those huge 437 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 1: cylindrical tanks and it was shipped on big semi trucks 438 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,360 Speaker 1: from that plant. So he says, way back in two 439 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 1: thousand two there was a catastrophic failure and one of 440 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: the tanks and actually killed a worker and injured three others. 441 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 1: So the explosion shook all the dishes in our house 442 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: from five miles away. That's pretty hardcore. And his father, 443 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: who was an Air Force pilot, said he initially thought 444 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: the noise was sonic boom from a jet, so he 445 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 1: said it didn't act result from a leaking pipeline, but 446 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 1: if there would have been no pipeline, there would have 447 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: been no accident. Yeah, well, sorry about that, Mason. Sorry, 448 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,239 Speaker 1: we overlooked the local tragedy there. And mules Shoe, I'm 449 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 1: surprised you can't hear about that. And now Josh for 450 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 1: our special little shout out. What is it? Chuck? This 451 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: is to Sully who was Uh sounds like one of 452 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: your pals. Yeah, it's a kid, his mom wrote in 453 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: His mom Kristen wrote in from southern California. And I 454 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: know Jerry it was a big fan of this email 455 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 1: as well, and if you read them you would be 456 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 1: as well. And uh, Sully is Sullivan. He just sounds 457 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: like a really cool little kid. He's about my nephew's 458 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 1: age eleven and years old. I think, yeah, my my cousin, 459 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 1: my nephew Noah, who was a very cool, smart kid, 460 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: and they are both big fans of MythBusters and their 461 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,199 Speaker 1: really smart and into school and stuff. And Kristen just 462 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: wrote us into thank us and I'm not gonna read 463 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: her email, but um, we just wanted to say hi 464 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: to Sully, and uh, thanks for listening. Little buddy, stay 465 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 1: in school, keep studying, drink your milk, keep keep up 466 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 1: what you're doing. Because your mom says you're a really cool, 467 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 1: groovy kid. He loves modest mouse right on at eleven. 468 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,679 Speaker 1: I mean, come on, and they might be Giants nice 469 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: and I believe my nephew no It is a big 470 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 1: they might be Giants fan as well, so sweet, So 471 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:28,880 Speaker 1: we just cool kids. Yeah, I want to say hi 472 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: and thanks for the support and keep listening. Thank you Sully, 473 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,880 Speaker 1: and uh, thank you Mason, thank you to everybody. Who 474 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: listens to us. If you want to send us an 475 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: email describing how you built the bird house and your soul, 476 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 1: you can send that to stuff podcast at how stuff 477 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 1: works dot com. 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