WEBVTT - February Q&A

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Solid Verbal. I'm that for me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a man, I'm for I've heard so many players say, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to be happy.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to be happy for day Ado State? Is

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<v Speaker 1>that woo whoom? And Dan and Tye welcome back to

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<v Speaker 1>the Solid Verbal, Boys and girls, my name is ty

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<v Speaker 1>Hildebrand joining me as always over there in New York City.

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<v Speaker 1>My man, the one and only Dan Rubinstein. Sir, how

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<v Speaker 1>are you Ty? When was the last time you did drugs?

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<v Speaker 2>I ask because after this show, people are going to

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<v Speaker 2>want to test you, because you are going to perform

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<v Speaker 2>at such a high level.

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<v Speaker 1>They're going to say, what is up with Ty hildenbr

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<v Speaker 1>I feel shot out of a cannon tonight? Dan? Is

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<v Speaker 1>that true? I do. We've got a lot to get through.

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<v Speaker 2>Before we get through it, Can I turn off the

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<v Speaker 2>heater that my wife left?

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<v Speaker 1>M all right? You comfortable? We need to have your

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<v Speaker 1>rhythm because we've got a lot to get through. Tonight

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<v Speaker 1>it was National Signing Day. Yes, today we will certainly

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<v Speaker 1>make reference to what transpired on signing Day. This is

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<v Speaker 1>not a signing day show, though, typically what we find

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<v Speaker 1>and we've been doing the show for god, I lost

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<v Speaker 1>count how many years. Well, what we do is we

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<v Speaker 1>bring in Brandon or somebody and we talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>news of the day, and inevitably there's always a handful

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<v Speaker 1>of kids who delay their commitment, and the news is

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<v Speaker 1>never really current because there is more of the story

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<v Speaker 1>left to tell. We're going to put off that show

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<v Speaker 1>a week or two, talk about it in a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's do it next week. We'll do it next week.

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<v Speaker 2>We will take that well, that long view. We'll focus

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<v Speaker 2>on National Signing Day. We will give you a thirty

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<v Speaker 2>thousand foot view. We'll bring in a knowledgeable guest to

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<v Speaker 2>focus just primarily on that. But we've also got some

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<v Speaker 2>other news that we want to talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>And we've got just a bunch of questions that have

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<v Speaker 1>been building up, things that you and I I think

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<v Speaker 1>need to work out between each other. Like, let's just

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<v Speaker 1>make this an organic show. We can answer questions, talk

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<v Speaker 1>about college football, a casual dress Wednesday here on the verbal. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a lot of questions.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got a fun little news, personal news, personal news

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<v Speaker 2>story that we can touch on probably tail end of

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<v Speaker 2>the show.

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<v Speaker 1>And then just.

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<v Speaker 2>Just have fun with each other. Tie, because that's what

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<v Speaker 2>this show is all about it's just relationships. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 2>I've I've been listening to a lot of Fat Joe

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<v Speaker 2>for reasons I'll explain later perhaps, but it's it's.

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<v Speaker 1>About us, It's about Trust's what's love. That's what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>So before we get there, quickly, some news news including

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<v Speaker 2>signing down.

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<v Speaker 1>We got it. We got to play in the sound.

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<v Speaker 1>If it's news, Dan, I don't know how breaking it is,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's bricking news. Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>USC has an offensive coordinator. Yeah, that's something we go

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<v Speaker 2>Uh this because we're recording once a week.

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<v Speaker 1>This is old news. This is old news. This is

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<v Speaker 1>old news.

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<v Speaker 2>Graham Harrell, who has been at North Texas helping to

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<v Speaker 2>run that offense, has come in the sty of Cliff Kingsbury,

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<v Speaker 2>who moved on to the Arizona Cardinals. So USC at

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<v Speaker 2>least has an offensive coordinator. We really don't know the

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<v Speaker 2>full shape of what USC is going to look like

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<v Speaker 2>next year, both player wise, coaching wise, whatever. Lot can

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<v Speaker 2>always change all my program.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I ask a question please? I'm guessing you saw

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<v Speaker 1>the news about the big acquisition in the podcasting arena

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<v Speaker 1>Spotify and Gimblet and Anchor. Yeah, I think that's local

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<v Speaker 1>to me. Gimblet's in Brooklyn, right, for sure, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of podcast nerdery going on. You can read about it.

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<v Speaker 1>But Spotify made a giant acquisition to the tune of

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred and some million dollars to become more prominently

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<v Speaker 1>part of the whole podcast thing. We'll do it for

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<v Speaker 1>a buck fifty one hundred and fifty mil. What is

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<v Speaker 1>the price tag? What is a dollar amount we could

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<v Speaker 1>fetch if we went around and pitched an oral history

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<v Speaker 1>of the Cliff Kingsbury era at USC.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, like we did what like Roger Bennett did with

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<v Speaker 2>the US national team. It's like that limited run special

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<v Speaker 2>type thing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, It'll be a one episode mini series on

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<v Speaker 1>Cliff Kingsbury's time at USC. How many hundreds of dollars

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<v Speaker 1>could we get for that?

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<v Speaker 2>We could get as many dollars as he spent days

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<v Speaker 2>in that job. I say, we could get a premium lunch.

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<v Speaker 2>We could afford a premium lunch between us Dan's favorite

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<v Speaker 2>taco join in La. Okay, Yes, what else do we got?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>So Pap Hamilton is out at Michigan, which sort of

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<v Speaker 2>seemed like writing was on the wall. This is all

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<v Speaker 2>the coaching stuff after Josh Gattis was hired. Excuse me,

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<v Speaker 2>Ben McDaniels was promoted I think to quarterbacks coach. That's

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<v Speaker 2>Josh McDaniel's brother, who was an analyst at Michigan, And

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<v Speaker 2>so there's a little movement on the offensive coordinator front.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think signing Day obviously has taken the biggest

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<v Speaker 2>hold in terms of attention in the college football world.

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<v Speaker 2>And to nobody's surprise, it's Alabama one, Georgia two, Texas three,

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<v Speaker 2>Texas A and m four, which is a bit of

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<v Speaker 2>a surprise. Metem Fisher nice, very very good recruiter, and

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<v Speaker 2>Oklahoma with I don't know if this is their best

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<v Speaker 2>class ever, it seems like it could be, but they're

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<v Speaker 2>at number five, I believe at the time of this recording.

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<v Speaker 2>Oregon had a very strong class, Washington finished strong, Tennessee

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<v Speaker 2>finished strong, Georgia had a big flip, Florida finished very strong.

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<v Speaker 2>We mentioned Michigan. They finished for the first time, I

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<v Speaker 2>would presume in some time. With Urban Meyer at Ohio

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<v Speaker 2>State for as long as he was, they finished with

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<v Speaker 2>the top class in the Big Ten, with Penn State

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<v Speaker 2>and then Ohio State following them.

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<v Speaker 1>Also notable.

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<v Speaker 2>Usc generally top five ish, theyre at number seventeen at

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<v Speaker 2>the time we're doing this. Nebraska number nineteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Heard it up that heat on Clay Helton Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean there's just so much uncertainty, and we'll

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<v Speaker 2>get to more usc stuff later, but Nebraska number nineteen,

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<v Speaker 2>I think is impressive all things considered. Arkansas, who had

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<v Speaker 2>a woeful year at twenty two, because you know, positions,

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<v Speaker 2>jobs are up for grabs when you don't win a

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<v Speaker 2>game in conference, it's all on the table. It's all

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<v Speaker 2>on the table. Florida State a pretty good class, a

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<v Speaker 2>great corner dB class, whatever, but zero high school quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 2>for the second consecutive year, leaving how many total scholarship

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<v Speaker 2>quarterbacks eligible at this time? He got like twenty nineteen.

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<v Speaker 2>James Blackman. Yeah, okay, that would be the big one

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<v Speaker 2>because DeAndre friend DeAndre Franzois was dismissed this past week.

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<v Speaker 2>So Florida State in a bit of a jam there

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<v Speaker 2>going on.

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<v Speaker 1>Weldcat in twenty nineteen.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of cam Akers, folks, the wild cam so

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of story. I mean, Tennessee finished very strongly.

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<v Speaker 2>A guy from California linebacker with the rare double apostrophe

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<v Speaker 2>it's Henry to'to O I think is his name.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna have fun with that one. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's going to Tennessee. And they signed a very

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<v Speaker 2>large man, a very good offensive line class for Tennessee.

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<v Speaker 2>So Jeremy pruittt doing at least big things on the

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<v Speaker 2>recruiting trail there. And I saw Virginia signed a German quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you see that? Miami signed a twenty four year

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<v Speaker 1>old tatted up punter from Australia. Let's do this. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm ready for that. Oregon State signed a dude

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<v Speaker 1>with a giant mullet, like a giant redheaded mullet. Guy

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<v Speaker 1>Washington finished. Yeah, giant redhead mall. Guy Washington finished, very

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<v Speaker 1>very strong and impressive fashion. Texas held onto a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of big dudes. So nothing crazy as it relates to

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<v Speaker 1>the classes that we've seen these past few years, but

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<v Speaker 1>it sort of we're spreading the signing day excitement out.

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<v Speaker 1>It's spread kind of thin with the early signing period

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<v Speaker 1>in mid to late December and then the first it's

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<v Speaker 1>the first Wednesday in February, so we're going to touch

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<v Speaker 1>on all of it. We mentioned the early stuff when

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<v Speaker 1>it happened, But we'll touch on all of it next week, presumably,

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<v Speaker 1>unless you know he's too good for us. Brandon Huffman

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<v Speaker 1>from now twenty four to seven Sports. Yeah, and you

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<v Speaker 1>know the other component of recruiting. Obviously, you've got the

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<v Speaker 1>early signing period, we've got the normal signing period, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>call it, and we're all used to, yes, But there's

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<v Speaker 1>this transfer portal business that sort of fills in the

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<v Speaker 1>gaps that goes on year round. But it seems that's

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<v Speaker 1>gained more prominence now as well. We could talk more

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<v Speaker 1>about that. I saw we got some questions coming in, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>regarding the transfer portal and what it means to the

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<v Speaker 1>state of college football. I feel like we've addressed that

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<v Speaker 1>in the past, but these are a little bit more specific.

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<v Speaker 1>So we can talk about all that and more anything

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<v Speaker 1>else in the way of news, Dan, because we've got

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of questions here that I know you and

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<v Speaker 1>I both want to address. I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Greg Ciano is gonna be the defensive coordinator

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<v Speaker 2>for the Patriots. Obviously, Ryan Day hires Greg Madison to

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<v Speaker 2>be the defense of the new defensive coordinator for Ohio State,

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<v Speaker 2>and that left greg Ciano looking for a job, and

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<v Speaker 2>he has his you know, very clear connections to pro football,

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<v Speaker 2>so that sort of makes sense. I think what the

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<v Speaker 2>Patriots lost their defensive coordinator to the Dolph.

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<v Speaker 1>Dolph Uh, yeah, he was a linebacker coach, baby, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah he was a co dct of place. I barely

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<v Speaker 2>know college football at alone. The stuff in the NFL

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<v Speaker 2>I did do, by the way, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>you have it at at the ready. I watched I

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<v Speaker 2>sort of watched the Super Bowl. Well what a drive chart?

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<v Speaker 1>Tie? Oh no, what a drive chart? I posted it

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<v Speaker 1>on the Twitter feed. I recorded special go out to

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<v Speaker 1>the Twitter. Yeah, and look at the drive chart. That

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<v Speaker 1>would have been an epic drive chart on this show.

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<v Speaker 1>Not just one team, really the entire game. If you

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<v Speaker 1>went into that game looking for a pyrotechnic offensive display,

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<v Speaker 1>what you got was really low rung SEC defensive football.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah it was. I mean not even Alabama LSU back

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<v Speaker 1>in the day. This was just bad defensive minded football

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<v Speaker 1>is what it amounted to.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna sit here and say I don't enjoy

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<v Speaker 2>all things Wade Phillips. I don't know if you saw

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<v Speaker 2>his cowboy hat. I can appreciate all things. Son of bum.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna stand taller than that, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>a rough watch at times. I'm not an NFL guy

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<v Speaker 1>at all.

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<v Speaker 2>I probably watched two or three NFL games this year,

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<v Speaker 2>so that was one of them and didn't really do

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<v Speaker 2>much for me. So the other thing, By the way,

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<v Speaker 2>before we get way too far down an NFL path,

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<v Speaker 2>there are plenty of NFL podcasts for you listener.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen to the Bill Barnwells Show. Good. Okay, we should

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<v Speaker 1>mention did you see the brill stuff? Yeah? Yeah, So

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<v Speaker 1>so Our Brills supposedly had a conversation with Jay Hobson,

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<v Speaker 1>the Southern misshead coach, about becoming their next offensive coordinator.

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<v Speaker 1>And he had that conversation without the school's administration knowing.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you're going to have an Our Brills conversation,

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<v Speaker 1>you're you live in the corporate world somewhat ty. What

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<v Speaker 1>what would be the loop them in? Yeah? Can we can?

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<v Speaker 1>We can we set up a conference call here? Loop

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<v Speaker 1>me in? Yeah? Can we circle back?

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<v Speaker 2>Should we circle back? We touch base? Can we can

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<v Speaker 2>we have a chat? Quick buzz? There was none of that,

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<v Speaker 2>and that is not the way to go about business.

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<v Speaker 2>When hiring or potentially hiring somebody like our brills the school,

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<v Speaker 2>we shoot a statement say he is not in consideration.

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<v Speaker 2>We are not going to be in the business of

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<v Speaker 2>our brills after everything that happened at Baylor and all

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<v Speaker 2>of his involvement with what happened at Baylor and Jay Hobson.

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<v Speaker 1>The I saw you defended it then right.

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<v Speaker 2>He then went out and said listens and like a

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<v Speaker 2>not great person and he said, you know we're we're

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<v Speaker 2>here for second chances and he's a man of the Bible, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, nope, uh huh, can't do it. Well, that's what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>We put out a call across all the channels Twitter, Facebook.

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<v Speaker 1>Did we put on Instagram? I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think we put on Instagram. Not that we

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<v Speaker 2>got questions on the Gram. We didn't do the gram.

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<v Speaker 2>Did we get questions on the Gram?

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<v Speaker 1>We had some that were sent into us as wow, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even check. People are. People are trying all

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<v Speaker 1>methods to get through to us to have their questions answered.

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<v Speaker 1>Some good ones out on the Reddit that we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to address. Some that came in through plain old fashioned email.

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<v Speaker 1>Soliverble at Gmail. We try to do these shows about

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<v Speaker 1>once a week during the off season. Now that we're

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<v Speaker 1>in February, we're squarely in the off season. We've had

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to decompress a bit from the college football

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<v Speaker 1>regular season. We are still, of course, going through our

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<v Speaker 1>conference autopsy rulings, got two of those out already. There

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<v Speaker 1>will be more yet to come in addition to all

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<v Speaker 1>the other cool stuff that we've got planned this offseason.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to be a big off season for the

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<v Speaker 1>Solid verbel But we feel like we can't go forward

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<v Speaker 1>and talk more about specific college football topics without doing

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of a retrospective and first answering questions from

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<v Speaker 1>the verballerhood at large. So Dan, if we could, You've

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<v Speaker 1>got mail, You've got mail on the Solid verbal as

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<v Speaker 1>often as we can, we'd like to pay homage. Where

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<v Speaker 1>do we want to start here? Dan? You know what,

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<v Speaker 1>Let's start big picture.

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<v Speaker 2>I enjoyed this question, not because I think about it

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<v Speaker 2>all too often, but because I think it's an interesting

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<v Speaker 2>talking point with where we are as a sport, or

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<v Speaker 2>at least covering a sport or fans of the sport.

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<v Speaker 2>This comes to us, I assume from Reddit because it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to us from Reddit lads seven eight nine.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's probably a Reddit user. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Looking at the correlation between national championships, eleven win seasons,

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<v Speaker 2>and recruiting class rankings, do you guys think that there

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<v Speaker 2>will ever be a movement to instill parody in college football?

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<v Speaker 2>I personally think the future is pretty bleak for college football,

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<v Speaker 2>as the incredible amount of money being made is going

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<v Speaker 2>to force a terra forming world big word formation of

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<v Speaker 2>land or Earth of sorts, of the current system into

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<v Speaker 2>something even more corporate that will allow the elite high

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<v Speaker 2>school players to be more easily funneled into blue blood programs.

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<v Speaker 2>I imagine that at some point that deals with the

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<v Speaker 2>visual services TV and streaming will become so lucrative that

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<v Speaker 2>it will lead to a super conference or super conference

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<v Speaker 2>is made of the most revenue rich program.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you say, Pangaea going to throw out ten cent

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<v Speaker 1>words a Pangaea? Sure? I would love college football. So

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<v Speaker 1>here's his point, is on the money for sure?

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<v Speaker 2>Right, It's basically asking, are we going to reach a

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<v Speaker 2>point where it is just the halves and it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to become an even more binary sport.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so that's the thing. Are we ever going to

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<v Speaker 1>see parody within the current format of college football. The

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<v Speaker 1>answer is most likely no. Could we see parody within

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<v Speaker 1>some super conference if we keep going the way we're going,

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<v Speaker 1>that could probably be worked out to some degree. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's the more likely scenario at this point. It

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't happen two years from now, may not even even

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<v Speaker 1>happen ten years from now. But I think to his point,

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<v Speaker 1>that's where we're headed. We're headed down a path where

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<v Speaker 1>we form a super conference twenty five years in the future,

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<v Speaker 1>and it is truly haves and have nots, yes and no.

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<v Speaker 2>So there is part of me looks at college football

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<v Speaker 2>and says, this is not a sport that is meant

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<v Speaker 2>to have equality. And very few sports are in the

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<v Speaker 2>way that they're set up, and with there's a ton

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<v Speaker 2>of free agent and player agency in the NBA. You

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<v Speaker 2>would know about the Premier League or the EPL, whatever

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<v Speaker 2>it is better than I. But it appears that, especially

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<v Speaker 2>overseasoned soccer, that the haves are separated.

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<v Speaker 1>There is no parody. There is no parody whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's no parody there. There's a luxury tax in baseball.

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't even begin to speak to how hockey is ruled,

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<v Speaker 2>but I know that there's a.

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<v Speaker 1>Salary cap there. Correct, Yes, there's a salary cap.

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<v Speaker 2>So what I would say as it relates to college

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<v Speaker 2>football is parody exists in that all of the biggest

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<v Speaker 2>schools have a similar amount of money to throw around.

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<v Speaker 2>So hypothetically, we could have a super conference and there

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<v Speaker 2>are twenty two teams and it's USC, UCLA, Oregon, Washington, Texas, Oklahoma,

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<v Speaker 2>Texas A and M Alabama, LSU, et cetera, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 2>Because they're all playing on relatively even playing fields in

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<v Speaker 2>how much they spend, what their facilities look like, what

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<v Speaker 2>they've been able to grow their brands into. So there

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<v Speaker 2>is that element what he's mentioning that terraforming. But I

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<v Speaker 2>imagine because of how college football is structured, and because

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<v Speaker 2>it's recruiting, and because there are different TV deals in

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<v Speaker 2>different conferences and different amounts of talent in different parts

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<v Speaker 2>of the country, this was never meant to be a

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<v Speaker 2>sports that was going to be evened out, And so

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's an accept what we have and move

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<v Speaker 2>forward and find the pockets that you enjoy rather than

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<v Speaker 2>the will tce you ever get to the point where

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<v Speaker 2>they can compete for national championships year outs because they

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<v Speaker 2>have a great defensive mind in Gary Patterson. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think that's the reality that we need to be looking for.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, here's the counterpoint. Yeah, the one major professional sport

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<v Speaker 1>that we know and some of us love, the NFL,

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<v Speaker 1>professional football, has gone to extreme lengths to promote parody.

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<v Speaker 1>You could finish with three wins one year and the

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<v Speaker 1>next year go to the playoffs, go to the super Bowl,

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<v Speaker 1>finish thirteen to three. That is not an uncommon occurrence

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFL. It's something that happens, you know, more

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<v Speaker 1>often than you might think. What is the argument against

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL that we hear, at least on our front,

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<v Speaker 1>That it's corporate, that it's soulless, that it does not

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<v Speaker 1>have nearly the same level of passion that we see

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<v Speaker 1>in the college game. So I could certainly imagine if like,

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<v Speaker 1>let's say you're I don't know, a Purdue fan, so

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<v Speaker 1>you're a UCF fan, that promise of parody might be

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<v Speaker 1>something rather attractive to you. But what does it do

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<v Speaker 1>to the sport? Does it make things more interesting in

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<v Speaker 1>the long run? I don't know. I don't know the

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<v Speaker 1>answer to that. I know what it's done in the NFL,

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<v Speaker 1>and it hasn't worked to promote passion.

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<v Speaker 2>We're having this conversation because of one man, right, are

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<v Speaker 2>we having this conversation because of Nick Saban? Probably because

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<v Speaker 2>everybody else that has had somewhat sustained success, and even

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<v Speaker 2>Nick Saban to a certain degree has done so because

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<v Speaker 2>of a vacuum of some kind. So not that that's

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<v Speaker 2>the reason for the success, but it's a contributing factor.

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<v Speaker 2>Like Clemson is soaring right now, and there's a Florida

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<v Speaker 2>State vacuum and a Miami vacuum.

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<v Speaker 1>Right on. One of the other questions that we got

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<v Speaker 1>in here somewhere, and I don't know if it's on

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<v Speaker 1>the sheet, but somebody asked the question, our dynasty is

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<v Speaker 1>good for college football? Right? You could extend that out,

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<v Speaker 1>or dynasty is good for Well, hasn't college football always

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<v Speaker 1>been dynastic? For sure? For sure? So my answer to

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<v Speaker 1>that is, yeah, it's good. It's good because you've always

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<v Speaker 1>got someone to root against, when.

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<v Speaker 2>You always got something to root against, and then when

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<v Speaker 2>that giant redwood of a dynasty is chopped down, whether

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<v Speaker 2>it's Quiz Rogers running fly sweeps or it's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Swag Kelly throwing for a bajillion yards against Alabama or

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<v Speaker 2>Texas losing to Kansas State. Those are the games that

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<v Speaker 2>we remember. Those are you know, Ohio State losing to

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<v Speaker 2>Purdue or Michigan losing to Iowa, whatever. Those are what

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<v Speaker 2>we live for, those games, those weeks, those scenarios, and

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<v Speaker 2>so you have to have that. I mean, if you

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<v Speaker 2>don't like it, you have to have that bad guy.

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<v Speaker 2>If you do like it, you appreciate the excellence. You

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate talent all over the field, and there's sort of

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<v Speaker 2>something for everybody. We are of the mind I'll speak

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<v Speaker 2>for myself, but I think you're somewhere around here as

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<v Speaker 2>well that the point of college football is not national championships.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the climb, it's not the peak. Right, So you're

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<v Speaker 2>going Miley Cyrus. I'm always going to go Miley Cyrus.

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<v Speaker 2>But Saban doesn't. If Nick Saban doesn't exist in the

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<v Speaker 2>way that he does, if he's not the winning cyborg

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<v Speaker 2>that is unparalleled.

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<v Speaker 1>Historically.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's say Alabama has is a really good but not

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<v Speaker 2>crazy excellent, unmatched coach. They're going to lose one year

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<v Speaker 2>to LSU in a way that they wouldn't with Nick

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<v Speaker 2>Saban there, They're gonna lose more often to Auburn, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>throwing a Mississippi State loss here at the peak of

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<v Speaker 2>Dan Mullen. You know, if Florida hires better, perhaps they

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<v Speaker 2>lose in an SEC championship to a better Florida coach

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<v Speaker 2>than Jim mckayin, et cetera, et cetera. This conversation has

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<v Speaker 2>shifted to an unrealistic place because Nick Saban is an

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<v Speaker 2>unrealistically excellent coach.

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Saban is a big part of the reason for

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<v Speaker 1>the conversation. I would I would disagree somewhat on the

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<v Speaker 1>point of college football and that that feeds back into

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<v Speaker 1>previous conversations we've had about the playoff system and what

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<v Speaker 1>that's for. And we can say that for another day

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<v Speaker 1>in the point of college football? Is Floyd of Rosedale? Sure?

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<v Speaker 1>Why not?

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<v Speaker 2>That's all in whit? I mean, that's that's to me.

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<v Speaker 2>It really is, Well, Iowa Minnesota.

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<v Speaker 1>About this at a later point in time. We could

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<v Speaker 1>burn a whole show in this literally sure, Okay, an

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<v Speaker 1>interesting topic, right, and sobagmail dot com, where do you

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<v Speaker 1>want to go next?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's go to but BA bah bah Bah.

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<v Speaker 2>I like this question a lot because he has been

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<v Speaker 2>a long, long time verballer, and we make fun of

0:21:10.640 --> 0:21:12.359
<v Speaker 2>the program that he likes a lot because both of

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<v Speaker 2>our schools play them pretty often. One fell Swoop who

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<v Speaker 2>is now one swell.

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<v Speaker 1>Foop against Yeah one.

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<v Speaker 2>Most USC fans slash alumni right now are just demoralized

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<v Speaker 2>and disgusted. How can we possibly have a positive outlook

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<v Speaker 2>on the twenty nineteen season. So beyond that, yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>just let's be hat glass half full right now.

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<v Speaker 1>With USA, Graham Harrell was a name that people were

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<v Speaker 1>after as well, very very true. He might not have

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<v Speaker 1>the sex appeal of one Cliff Kingsbury. I mean that

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<v Speaker 1>in a football sense, but you know, Cliff Kingsbury was

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<v Speaker 1>a name. Maybe you don't, Maybe I don't. Not that

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<v Speaker 1>there's anything wrong with no. The point is, look, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Graham Harrold getting Graham Harrell, I think was was a

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<v Speaker 1>nice pick up for Clay Hilton.

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<v Speaker 2>So in looking at USC, there's a few things to consider.

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<v Speaker 2>How many teams in their division forget the conference because

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<v Speaker 2>it's not a strong conference right now. How many teams

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<v Speaker 2>in their division.

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<v Speaker 1>Are on solid grounds, have the infrastructure to win nine games.

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<v Speaker 1>I disagree. I think Utah does Utah okay, but outside

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<v Speaker 1>Utah it's slim pickens.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now, we're entering the more and more of Asu

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<v Speaker 2>and the Herm Edwards, who are interesting this year but

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<v Speaker 2>not super consistent. Very good at home, terrible away from Tempe.

0:22:27.280 --> 0:22:29.960
<v Speaker 2>Ucla was a nightmare last year. We presume good things,

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<v Speaker 2>but we really have no way of, you know, looking

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<v Speaker 2>at twenty nineteen and saying, oh, they're making a huge

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<v Speaker 2>move this year. I like the quarterback, but Arizona, we'll see.

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<v Speaker 2>They have the potential to have a dynamic quarterback, but

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think they're on the most solid of ground

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<v Speaker 2>with how they began twenty eighteen. Colorado has a new coach,

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<v Speaker 2>So the hope is nobody's in a demonstrably better play Utah.

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<v Speaker 1>And gonna other than Utah. Their quarterback's gonna get hurt

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<v Speaker 1>three quarters away through a year, and they're gonna win

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<v Speaker 1>nine games and no one's going to see it coming.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Utah season.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's something about that where if USC is just

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<v Speaker 2>if they're frisky, and I have the schedule in front

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<v Speaker 2>of me as well, but the North is certainly more

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<v Speaker 2>difficult Washington State. The Huskies obviously as well, are tough.

0:23:13.760 --> 0:23:17.240
<v Speaker 2>Oregon has really reinforced with a lot of talent, especially

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<v Speaker 2>in this year's class. Stanford's always going to be tough.

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<v Speaker 2>Cal's got a great defense, Oregon State's garbage, but usc

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<v Speaker 2>with talent on both sides of the ball. They've got

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of really good young linebackers. They've recruited the

0:23:27.920 --> 0:23:30.280
<v Speaker 2>secondary very well. I know that they started a safety,

0:23:30.320 --> 0:23:33.760
<v Speaker 2>a true freshman safety last year. I think it's Talanoa Hufunga,

0:23:34.080 --> 0:23:38.560
<v Speaker 2>who was a big hitter. Their schedule is they don't

0:23:38.560 --> 0:23:41.800
<v Speaker 2>play what we can consider to be a definitely winnable

0:23:41.840 --> 0:23:48.320
<v Speaker 2>game until mid October, but there's not definite losses outside

0:23:48.320 --> 0:23:51.400
<v Speaker 2>of the at Washington at Notre Dame. I think there's

0:23:51.400 --> 0:23:53.440
<v Speaker 2>a bye week between them as well, though, So it's

0:23:53.480 --> 0:23:56.480
<v Speaker 2>Fresno Stanford, they go to BYU with a promising young

0:23:56.560 --> 0:24:00.280
<v Speaker 2>quarterback that is secretly very good in Zach Wilson. Utah

0:24:00.280 --> 0:24:02.840
<v Speaker 2>at home at least, and then after the Washington Notre

0:24:02.880 --> 0:24:06.880
<v Speaker 2>Dame thing, it's Arizona, Colorado at Colorado, Oregon at home

0:24:06.960 --> 0:24:11.520
<v Speaker 2>at ASU at Cal Ucla. They're more talented than everybody

0:24:11.560 --> 0:24:15.639
<v Speaker 2>on this schedule than Washington, other than perhaps Washington and

0:24:15.680 --> 0:24:19.920
<v Speaker 2>Notre Dame. Yeah, so in terms of they could feel

0:24:19.960 --> 0:24:23.000
<v Speaker 2>a good defense, there's defensive continuity with Clancy Pendergast and

0:24:23.040 --> 0:24:25.720
<v Speaker 2>a lot of talent there on offense. I don't even

0:24:25.720 --> 0:24:27.600
<v Speaker 2>know if JT. Daniels was the best quarterback on their

0:24:27.680 --> 0:24:30.160
<v Speaker 2>roster last year. I really like Jack Sears against ASU.

0:24:30.720 --> 0:24:34.719
<v Speaker 2>But presumably everybody's taking a step forward and there's somewhat

0:24:34.760 --> 0:24:38.000
<v Speaker 2>of a fresh schematic start, even if the Clay Helton

0:24:38.040 --> 0:24:39.880
<v Speaker 2>era feels doomed already.

0:24:40.280 --> 0:24:42.639
<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's fair. I think that's so. Could they go

0:24:42.720 --> 0:24:45.280
<v Speaker 1>nine to three and win a bowl? Sure? I don't

0:24:45.280 --> 0:24:48.680
<v Speaker 1>think it's unrealistic. Sure they have challenges though, for sure

0:24:48.720 --> 0:24:51.399
<v Speaker 1>they have challenges. Since we talked about j that's the

0:24:51.440 --> 0:24:54.480
<v Speaker 1>glass half full. Yeah, that's the glass half full. Thank you? Yeah,

0:24:54.880 --> 0:24:58.520
<v Speaker 1>one swell foop, yep, don't give up. I want a

0:24:58.520 --> 0:25:01.560
<v Speaker 1>dovetail from JT. Dani As though into another question that

0:25:01.560 --> 0:25:05.440
<v Speaker 1>we got here from Edward. Okay, Edward a bit of

0:25:05.440 --> 0:25:07.800
<v Speaker 1>a self serving question because it pertains to Notre Dame.

0:25:07.840 --> 0:25:10.520
<v Speaker 1>But I'm right. It talks about five star quarterbacks, and

0:25:10.520 --> 0:25:14.000
<v Speaker 1>he says, why is Notre Dame had so much trouble

0:25:14.000 --> 0:25:17.520
<v Speaker 1>recruiting and developing a true five star quarterback under Brian Kelly.

0:25:18.240 --> 0:25:21.320
<v Speaker 2>So I did a lot of research on this question.

0:25:22.160 --> 0:25:24.920
<v Speaker 2>This is such a good This is like the greatest

0:25:24.960 --> 0:25:27.440
<v Speaker 2>Notre Dame question. Who they just went twelve and zero

0:25:27.480 --> 0:25:28.320
<v Speaker 2>and went to the playoffs?

0:25:28.359 --> 0:25:31.720
<v Speaker 1>Exactly? Why can't they? Exactly? But he can't they pull

0:25:31.720 --> 0:25:34.600
<v Speaker 1>a Trevor Lawrence. He's touching a little bit of a

0:25:34.600 --> 0:25:36.960
<v Speaker 1>nerve here. So I did want to address it first

0:25:37.000 --> 0:25:41.400
<v Speaker 1>and foremost. We can't answer the question before we define

0:25:41.520 --> 0:25:45.840
<v Speaker 1>on our own what quote a true five star quarterback

0:25:46.480 --> 0:25:47.720
<v Speaker 1>really means.

0:25:48.359 --> 0:25:51.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I think he literally means like a five

0:25:51.040 --> 0:25:55.159
<v Speaker 2>star twenty four to seven, like premium premium recruit turned

0:25:55.160 --> 0:25:58.600
<v Speaker 2>that in like what Jimmy Clausen was right, like the

0:25:58.720 --> 0:26:02.320
<v Speaker 2>no brainer Trevor Lawrence type who can come in And

0:26:02.400 --> 0:26:05.360
<v Speaker 2>then obviously that's it's front and center because Notre Dame

0:26:05.400 --> 0:26:06.360
<v Speaker 2>just got worked over.

0:26:06.240 --> 0:26:09.399
<v Speaker 1>By that's right, that's right. So we are in agreement

0:26:09.480 --> 0:26:11.880
<v Speaker 1>on what that means. So I went back on twenty

0:26:11.960 --> 0:26:15.160
<v Speaker 1>four to seven and I looked at all ten recruiting

0:26:15.200 --> 0:26:19.120
<v Speaker 1>classes since Brian Kelly today his first class at Notre

0:26:19.200 --> 0:26:21.840
<v Speaker 1>Dame was a twenty ten class. I didn't just look

0:26:21.880 --> 0:26:24.480
<v Speaker 1>at his I looked nationally to see what was going on.

0:26:25.920 --> 0:26:29.000
<v Speaker 1>There have been a total of twenty one five star

0:26:29.119 --> 0:26:32.359
<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks in that time period, about two to three every year.

0:26:32.960 --> 0:26:36.840
<v Speaker 1>Of those twenty one kids, ten of them almost fifty

0:26:36.880 --> 0:26:40.520
<v Speaker 1>percent went to SEC schools. Four of them went to

0:26:40.560 --> 0:26:44.160
<v Speaker 1>the PAC twelve USC twice, I want to say UCLA

0:26:44.240 --> 0:26:48.199
<v Speaker 1>and Stanford, three went to the ACC, two went to

0:26:48.240 --> 0:26:50.720
<v Speaker 1>the Big Ten, one to the Big twelve. This year

0:26:50.840 --> 0:26:55.600
<v Speaker 1>Spencer Rattler, and one did go to Notre Dame. So

0:26:55.680 --> 0:26:57.720
<v Speaker 1>my first take who went to Notre Dame? Gunner keel

0:26:58.560 --> 0:27:02.160
<v Speaker 1>ill remember the Gunner Killer loved it. My first takeaway

0:27:02.800 --> 0:27:06.400
<v Speaker 1>is that true five star quarterbacks don't grow on trees. Yeah,

0:27:06.400 --> 0:27:08.919
<v Speaker 1>there's how many a year, generally two to three, two

0:27:09.000 --> 0:27:11.080
<v Speaker 1>to three. Yeah, So if you get one out of

0:27:11.119 --> 0:27:14.320
<v Speaker 1>twenty one, I get it, that's like less than five percent.

0:27:14.760 --> 0:27:17.160
<v Speaker 1>But relative to the rest of college football, that ain't bad.

0:27:17.840 --> 0:27:20.399
<v Speaker 1>Aren't a lot of programs getting five star kids, a

0:27:20.440 --> 0:27:23.800
<v Speaker 1>lot quite frankly of zero. So that's the first point.

0:27:24.080 --> 0:27:27.639
<v Speaker 1>The second point, and I'd say, forget about Spencer Rattler,

0:27:27.680 --> 0:27:30.040
<v Speaker 1>forget about bow Knicks who's going to Auburn. They're from

0:27:30.040 --> 0:27:33.840
<v Speaker 1>this year's class. If you look at the other nineteen

0:27:33.920 --> 0:27:36.919
<v Speaker 1>names on the list, there are at least five of

0:27:36.920 --> 0:27:40.159
<v Speaker 1>them that we need to see more from. All Right,

0:27:40.200 --> 0:27:42.399
<v Speaker 1>we need to see if Justin Fields can develop, if

0:27:42.440 --> 0:27:44.760
<v Speaker 1>he can be a true five star, if he can

0:27:45.080 --> 0:27:47.640
<v Speaker 1>showcase that on the field. We don't know. Same deal

0:27:47.680 --> 0:27:50.840
<v Speaker 1>with kids like Hunter Johnson and Davis Mills. Shaye Patterson

0:27:51.800 --> 0:27:54.920
<v Speaker 1>a five star kid, a transfer from Ole Miss. He's

0:27:54.960 --> 0:27:57.680
<v Speaker 1>been good, I don't know if he's been I don't

0:27:57.680 --> 0:28:00.720
<v Speaker 1>know if he's been transcendent. Right, we need to see

0:28:00.760 --> 0:28:03.040
<v Speaker 1>more of him. And then he got other kids on

0:28:03.040 --> 0:28:05.359
<v Speaker 1>this list like Kyle Allen and Max Brown and gun

0:28:05.480 --> 0:28:10.359
<v Speaker 1>Or Keel who definitely did not work out. They weren't

0:28:10.359 --> 0:28:12.800
<v Speaker 1>that quarterback when they got on campus. So my second

0:28:12.840 --> 0:28:15.399
<v Speaker 1>point is that you've really got like a fifty percent

0:28:15.480 --> 0:28:17.800
<v Speaker 1>chance of living up that label. If you pull a

0:28:17.880 --> 0:28:22.320
<v Speaker 1>kid like that, it's like fifty percent. Well, so, okay,

0:28:22.320 --> 0:28:24.439
<v Speaker 1>I think all of what you said is correct here.

0:28:24.440 --> 0:28:25.560
<v Speaker 1>There are some other factors.

0:28:25.640 --> 0:28:28.600
<v Speaker 2>One, you have to have the five star who's going

0:28:28.600 --> 0:28:31.639
<v Speaker 2>to thrive at your school, who is a good mix

0:28:31.760 --> 0:28:35.399
<v Speaker 2>between the players on the team, and some of them

0:28:35.440 --> 0:28:37.399
<v Speaker 2>are ready to play right away, some of them need

0:28:37.440 --> 0:28:39.040
<v Speaker 2>a year or two, some of them need a red shirt.

0:28:39.080 --> 0:28:42.640
<v Speaker 2>Ear you need to mesh well with the offensive coaching staff,

0:28:42.720 --> 0:28:46.080
<v Speaker 2>just general comfort transitioning from high school to college, and

0:28:46.120 --> 0:28:49.640
<v Speaker 2>that's true of every player, but the spotlight is especially

0:28:49.640 --> 0:28:53.360
<v Speaker 2>bright and the expectations are enormous for somebody who is

0:28:53.720 --> 0:28:55.640
<v Speaker 2>going If you are a five star quarterback, you're going

0:28:55.680 --> 0:28:57.520
<v Speaker 2>to come in and people are going to say, I

0:28:57.600 --> 0:29:01.080
<v Speaker 2>can't wait to see him lead us to glory. That

0:29:01.200 --> 0:29:03.120
<v Speaker 2>is what is going to be saddled on you from

0:29:03.240 --> 0:29:06.680
<v Speaker 2>day one. And then you add in the Notre Dame factor.

0:29:06.960 --> 0:29:10.840
<v Speaker 2>The Notre Dame factor is if you take one hundred

0:29:11.240 --> 0:29:14.520
<v Speaker 2>five star quarterbacks, throw them anywhere in the country, in

0:29:14.560 --> 0:29:18.960
<v Speaker 2>southern California and Florida, wherever in Texas, and then you say,

0:29:19.440 --> 0:29:23.400
<v Speaker 2>how many of you want to play college in cold weather? Okay,

0:29:23.480 --> 0:29:25.400
<v Speaker 2>you take out thirty eight of them, right, And then

0:29:25.520 --> 0:29:28.040
<v Speaker 2>how many of you want to go to college with

0:29:28.840 --> 0:29:32.880
<v Speaker 2>a ton more of a workload than the average top

0:29:32.920 --> 0:29:34.640
<v Speaker 2>college football school academically?

0:29:34.840 --> 0:29:36.320
<v Speaker 1>Okay, throw out another thirty of them.

0:29:36.600 --> 0:29:39.480
<v Speaker 2>How many of you want to not really play in

0:29:39.560 --> 0:29:42.560
<v Speaker 2>a conference with traditional rivalry games. Play some of your

0:29:42.560 --> 0:29:44.920
<v Speaker 2>games out West, some of your games against Wake Forest

0:29:44.960 --> 0:29:47.840
<v Speaker 2>and NC State and Clemson whatever that. You can throw

0:29:47.840 --> 0:29:49.920
<v Speaker 2>out another fifteen of them. How many of you want

0:29:49.960 --> 0:29:51.520
<v Speaker 2>to go to a school where you have to go

0:29:52.000 --> 0:29:53.680
<v Speaker 2>to church, you have to go to mass Okay, throw

0:29:53.680 --> 0:29:56.600
<v Speaker 2>out another nine of them. And it's just it's such

0:29:56.640 --> 0:29:58.920
<v Speaker 2>a specific and I'm not saying any of that is bad.

0:29:59.320 --> 0:30:02.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying to get a top kid to Notre Dame

0:30:02.760 --> 0:30:06.640
<v Speaker 2>means you are dealing with a smaller pool of top kids.

0:30:07.200 --> 0:30:10.200
<v Speaker 2>Whether it's because of academics, whether it's because of religion,

0:30:10.240 --> 0:30:14.040
<v Speaker 2>whether it's because of location and weather, whatever. Then many

0:30:14.120 --> 0:30:18.600
<v Speaker 2>other schools are offering, so the pool is already going

0:30:18.680 --> 0:30:19.840
<v Speaker 2>to be smaller.

0:30:19.800 --> 0:30:22.280
<v Speaker 1>And it's quite frankly, very hard to get a five

0:30:22.320 --> 0:30:25.880
<v Speaker 1>star kid. Was my first relief, and everything you're saying

0:30:25.880 --> 0:30:30.360
<v Speaker 1>there one hundred percent plays in. The more concerning part

0:30:30.360 --> 0:30:32.720
<v Speaker 1>of this to me as a Notre Dame fan is

0:30:32.800 --> 0:30:35.560
<v Speaker 1>the development angle, not the recruiting angle. Recruiting is hard,

0:30:35.640 --> 0:30:37.520
<v Speaker 1>and it's even harder to get a five star kid

0:30:37.840 --> 0:30:40.000
<v Speaker 1>for a variety of reasons. Maybe some of those are

0:30:41.560 --> 0:30:45.280
<v Speaker 1>emphasized at Notre Dame, but The real question, to me

0:30:45.560 --> 0:30:47.240
<v Speaker 1>has less to do with the star ratings more to

0:30:47.240 --> 0:30:50.200
<v Speaker 1>do with development. Why is it Notre Dame turning kids

0:30:50.240 --> 0:30:52.880
<v Speaker 1>into like Baker Mayfield and why don't we have that

0:30:53.560 --> 0:30:56.840
<v Speaker 1>at Notre Dame. There's no easy answer to it, and

0:30:57.120 --> 0:31:00.720
<v Speaker 1>especially so because the quarterback position at Notre Dame has

0:31:00.800 --> 0:31:05.200
<v Speaker 1>been somewhat cursed over the last ten years. They've had

0:31:05.240 --> 0:31:10.040
<v Speaker 1>academic suspensions and the injuries, crowded depth charts. All of

0:31:10.080 --> 0:31:13.040
<v Speaker 1>that complicates the matter. Tommy's who now want to be

0:31:13.120 --> 0:31:17.040
<v Speaker 1>named tom That's right. A handful of different coordinators throw

0:31:17.080 --> 0:31:19.360
<v Speaker 1>that in the mix as well. None of that has helped.

0:31:20.000 --> 0:31:21.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you can point to any one

0:31:21.840 --> 0:31:24.440
<v Speaker 1>thing or I will agree with Edward and then I

0:31:24.440 --> 0:31:28.800
<v Speaker 1>promise we'll move on. Is that development, certainly is an

0:31:28.840 --> 0:31:32.960
<v Speaker 1>open question. I've long had a bit of anxiety around

0:31:32.960 --> 0:31:35.840
<v Speaker 1>the fact that from year to year does not feel

0:31:35.880 --> 0:31:39.320
<v Speaker 1>like quarterbacks at Notre Dame get all that much better. Right,

0:31:40.640 --> 0:31:42.040
<v Speaker 1>that's a problem.

0:31:41.760 --> 0:31:45.080
<v Speaker 2>Well, isn't this isn't this the same thing anywhere? That's

0:31:45.120 --> 0:31:47.240
<v Speaker 2>just not Notre Dame, where you just need that first

0:31:47.320 --> 0:31:53.000
<v Speaker 2>hit and then everything sort of spirals from there. So, okay,

0:31:53.040 --> 0:31:56.520
<v Speaker 2>you need that first awesome quarterback. And so with Clemson,

0:31:56.560 --> 0:31:59.840
<v Speaker 2>maybe is it you know, Taj Boyd begets to shann

0:32:00.280 --> 0:32:02.520
<v Speaker 2>and begets Trevor Lawrence. I want to be the next

0:32:02.760 --> 0:32:08.440
<v Speaker 2>Reggie Bush, begets Joe McKnight, Michael James, begets d Anthony Thomas.

0:32:08.480 --> 0:32:11.720
<v Speaker 2>You know, Percy Harvin begets champions Breed championship right where

0:32:11.720 --> 0:32:13.800
<v Speaker 2>it's just like, I want to be the next blank.

0:32:14.120 --> 0:32:17.400
<v Speaker 2>And if we're talking specifically about Notre Dame quarterbacks, you're saying,

0:32:18.000 --> 0:32:21.160
<v Speaker 2>do I want to be the next Jimmy Clauston, Tommy Reese,

0:32:21.360 --> 0:32:24.560
<v Speaker 2>Dane Christ, Sean Kaiser, Ian Book, Like, these are not

0:32:24.800 --> 0:32:29.680
<v Speaker 2>names that are leading game day necessarily because they're all

0:32:29.720 --> 0:32:32.560
<v Speaker 2>good in their own way to whatever extent. But how

0:32:32.560 --> 0:32:34.640
<v Speaker 2>many kids are at home saying I want I need

0:32:34.680 --> 0:32:37.400
<v Speaker 2>to be the next Ian Book? I don't know that

0:32:37.440 --> 0:32:41.040
<v Speaker 2>there are many. And he's he's a playoff quarterback, but

0:32:41.160 --> 0:32:43.880
<v Speaker 2>it's just the system that they run in the way

0:32:43.920 --> 0:32:48.440
<v Speaker 2>that they play is not necessarily that. Whereas that Oklahoma

0:32:48.480 --> 0:32:50.480
<v Speaker 2>you have Jason Sam Bradford.

0:32:50.520 --> 0:32:54.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't know about who's the star that like, who's

0:32:54.320 --> 0:32:56.640
<v Speaker 1>the star? No, no, no, I agree with what you're talking.

0:32:57.160 --> 0:32:59.840
<v Speaker 1>I agree generally. I don't know if it's a system thing.

0:33:00.440 --> 0:33:01.400
<v Speaker 1>I think it might not be.

0:33:01.320 --> 0:33:03.240
<v Speaker 2>A system thing, but it's a star thing where you're

0:33:03.280 --> 0:33:06.840
<v Speaker 2>just like, Okay, this Notre Dame has a dude at

0:33:06.840 --> 0:33:09.600
<v Speaker 2>whatever position. I think that we've had it a different position.

0:33:09.680 --> 0:33:12.760
<v Speaker 2>I think that can certainly be a factor.

0:33:13.080 --> 0:33:16.200
<v Speaker 1>You need that first. Their offensive line, for example, has

0:33:16.240 --> 0:33:19.840
<v Speaker 1>definitely a major selling point for recruits. They're doing very

0:33:19.840 --> 0:33:23.520
<v Speaker 1>well along the offensive line. That can absolutely play a

0:33:23.560 --> 0:33:25.800
<v Speaker 1>factor at the quarterback position. I don't know if it's

0:33:25.800 --> 0:33:28.160
<v Speaker 1>so much a system thing. I think it's got on

0:33:28.200 --> 0:33:30.920
<v Speaker 1>some level to be a coaching thing. Because none of

0:33:30.920 --> 0:33:33.520
<v Speaker 1>these quarterbacks have gotten better from you to you's that's

0:33:33.560 --> 0:33:34.160
<v Speaker 1>a bigger issue.

0:33:34.240 --> 0:33:37.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, And I think where you see that recruiting

0:33:37.240 --> 0:33:41.160
<v Speaker 2>success where this star turns into the star recruit turns

0:33:41.160 --> 0:33:43.640
<v Speaker 2>into a star player, a lot of it is because

0:33:43.760 --> 0:33:46.800
<v Speaker 2>of a confidence in that coaching staff to develop them

0:33:47.160 --> 0:33:48.960
<v Speaker 2>into what they've been watching on TV.

0:33:49.480 --> 0:33:54.360
<v Speaker 1>Okay, here we go, Joel Will Jalen Hurts be in

0:33:54.480 --> 0:34:00.000
<v Speaker 1>New York City as a Heisman finalist. Good transition, Thank you,

0:34:00.080 --> 0:34:03.840
<v Speaker 1>Will Oklahoma be back in the playoffs? How much improvement

0:34:03.840 --> 0:34:07.080
<v Speaker 1>will Alex Grinch bring to the Oklahoma defense. So we've

0:34:07.120 --> 0:34:09.960
<v Speaker 1>got three Oklahoma centric questions. We talked about it. If

0:34:10.000 --> 0:34:13.480
<v Speaker 1>you miss the boat, if you've been detoxing from college football,

0:34:13.560 --> 0:34:17.760
<v Speaker 1>like the rest of normal, well adjusted gentlemen and women

0:34:17.800 --> 0:34:22.279
<v Speaker 1>out there, don't feel bad. Jalen Hurts transferred to Oklahoma.

0:34:22.320 --> 0:34:25.719
<v Speaker 1>He will be their quarterback. Presumably Oklahoma brings back a

0:34:25.760 --> 0:34:28.080
<v Speaker 1>lot from last year, so it stands to reason they

0:34:28.080 --> 0:34:30.839
<v Speaker 1>have a pretty good chance at the playoff. And as

0:34:30.920 --> 0:34:34.360
<v Speaker 1>we illustrated on the program time and time again, the

0:34:34.480 --> 0:34:37.200
<v Speaker 1>defense was a huge problem. This is a huge problem

0:34:37.239 --> 0:34:39.120
<v Speaker 1>to the extent that they just stopped playing it and

0:34:39.360 --> 0:34:41.720
<v Speaker 1>hope for a couple big plays per game down the stretch.

0:34:41.960 --> 0:34:45.160
<v Speaker 1>Now they bring in Alex Grinch, formerly of Ohio State,

0:34:45.239 --> 0:34:48.520
<v Speaker 1>formerly of Washington State. He's a guy ghast generator. Yeah,

0:34:48.560 --> 0:34:51.600
<v Speaker 1>he a ghost generator. Thank you. He's come in. He's

0:34:51.680 --> 0:34:54.799
<v Speaker 1>made his mark in a hurry pretty much everywhere he's been.

0:34:54.880 --> 0:34:57.360
<v Speaker 1>So you can pick which one of those tentacles you

0:34:57.400 --> 0:35:02.800
<v Speaker 1>wish to address. Dan hurt will have every opportunity to succeed.

0:35:02.880 --> 0:35:03.560
<v Speaker 1>To that point.

0:35:03.600 --> 0:35:06.879
<v Speaker 2>Oklahoma's on a Heisman streak, which is not a thing

0:35:07.320 --> 0:35:09.480
<v Speaker 2>a lot of teams can say, so, he will have

0:35:09.520 --> 0:35:12.120
<v Speaker 2>every opportunity. What was the rub on him, who had

0:35:12.200 --> 0:35:15.040
<v Speaker 2>he had a very successful career at Alabama. The rub

0:35:15.080 --> 0:35:18.200
<v Speaker 2>on him was tentative going downfield. Yes, you know, he

0:35:18.200 --> 0:35:20.080
<v Speaker 2>didn't make he didn't want to make mistakes, which is

0:35:20.160 --> 0:35:22.839
<v Speaker 2>amazing and it's incredible. I remember it was two years

0:35:22.880 --> 0:35:25.080
<v Speaker 2>ago when he did start against it was I don't

0:35:25.120 --> 0:35:26.719
<v Speaker 2>know if it was conference teams or ranked teams or

0:35:26.719 --> 0:35:27.600
<v Speaker 2>teams with a winning record.

0:35:27.640 --> 0:35:28.359
<v Speaker 1>It was something like.

0:35:28.719 --> 0:35:32.840
<v Speaker 2>Twelve touchdowns to zero or one interception, something incredibly impressive.

0:35:33.520 --> 0:35:36.719
<v Speaker 2>But at Oklahoma that quarterback position, he is not going

0:35:36.800 --> 0:35:39.000
<v Speaker 2>to be able to lean on the defense for field

0:35:39.000 --> 0:35:41.360
<v Speaker 2>position and stops. He will be able to lean on

0:35:41.360 --> 0:35:44.920
<v Speaker 2>the running game with a couple of promising young running backs,

0:35:45.040 --> 0:35:48.120
<v Speaker 2>but he will have every opportunity. They're bringing in just

0:35:48.239 --> 0:35:52.440
<v Speaker 2>a ridiculous and unfair class of receivers. Now they return

0:35:52.560 --> 0:35:54.800
<v Speaker 2>some talent there. I know they lose, you know, Hollywood

0:35:54.800 --> 0:35:58.479
<v Speaker 2>Brown is gone, but he will have every opportunity to

0:35:58.520 --> 0:36:02.480
<v Speaker 2>do so. I think three in a row is too many.

0:36:02.680 --> 0:36:07.000
<v Speaker 2>I just I can't imagine that because it is difficult

0:36:07.040 --> 0:36:08.480
<v Speaker 2>as a grad transfer to come in. And we have

0:36:08.480 --> 0:36:11.680
<v Speaker 2>another question about this that a lot of times, grad

0:36:11.719 --> 0:36:16.439
<v Speaker 2>transfers exist because they're beaten out, and they're beaten out

0:36:16.480 --> 0:36:20.479
<v Speaker 2>for a reason in most cases, a clear weakness, whether

0:36:20.480 --> 0:36:22.440
<v Speaker 2>it's a new coach coming in with a different system,

0:36:22.480 --> 0:36:24.840
<v Speaker 2>whether it's just a new quarterback coming in who's better.

0:36:25.320 --> 0:36:29.080
<v Speaker 2>But it's it's very rare that we see excellent quarterbacks

0:36:29.200 --> 0:36:33.320
<v Speaker 2>transfer and thrive if they're beaten out, like Russell Wilson

0:36:33.760 --> 0:36:37.359
<v Speaker 2>obviously did, Gardner Minshew did for scheme reasons. For an

0:36:37.280 --> 0:36:40.520
<v Speaker 2>Adams thrived, but he was not beaten out at Eastern Washington.

0:36:40.560 --> 0:36:45.839
<v Speaker 2>We've seen it happen, sure, but there's also that element of, oh,

0:36:45.920 --> 0:36:49.200
<v Speaker 2>he has a very specific weakness and they found somebody

0:36:49.239 --> 0:36:50.880
<v Speaker 2>who doesn't and he's gone.

0:36:50.920 --> 0:36:54.839
<v Speaker 1>Now. It's an incredible move though for Lincoln Riley, just

0:36:54.880 --> 0:36:58.040
<v Speaker 1>on our front for a number of reasons, but on

0:36:58.080 --> 0:37:00.560
<v Speaker 1>this front in particular, they're bringing in a true five

0:37:00.600 --> 0:37:04.799
<v Speaker 1>star quarterback that presumably will develop under the tutelage of

0:37:04.800 --> 0:37:08.680
<v Speaker 1>mister Riley. Jalen Hurts as a quarterback who obviously is

0:37:08.880 --> 0:37:11.439
<v Speaker 1>proven to some extent will on some high level college

0:37:11.440 --> 0:37:14.760
<v Speaker 1>football games, got Alabama to a national championship, played half

0:37:14.800 --> 0:37:19.879
<v Speaker 1>of that national championship terribly. Programs don't generally work out

0:37:19.880 --> 0:37:22.880
<v Speaker 1>on offense when you're jumping from flame to flame or

0:37:22.920 --> 0:37:26.520
<v Speaker 1>bringing in quarterback transfers every year and you basically have

0:37:26.600 --> 0:37:29.880
<v Speaker 1>to reboot. Even Kyler Murray, though he was a transfer,

0:37:30.160 --> 0:37:33.680
<v Speaker 1>had a year in that system correct to learn, while

0:37:33.680 --> 0:37:38.239
<v Speaker 1>Baker Mayfield coining his Heisman Trophy. So my point here

0:37:38.400 --> 0:37:41.920
<v Speaker 1>is this gives Lincoln Riley that bridge where he can

0:37:41.960 --> 0:37:45.880
<v Speaker 1>bring in someone with experience, maybe not experience with the program,

0:37:46.080 --> 0:37:49.319
<v Speaker 1>but they can build experience now with their youngin and

0:37:49.440 --> 0:37:51.760
<v Speaker 1>presumably hit the ground running them in twenty twenty.

0:37:52.480 --> 0:37:54.239
<v Speaker 2>I think he'll be fine. I think he will be

0:37:54.280 --> 0:37:57.120
<v Speaker 2>a top fifteen or twenty quarterback in the country, but

0:37:57.920 --> 0:38:00.879
<v Speaker 2>it's difficult for me to see him in a way

0:38:00.920 --> 0:38:04.200
<v Speaker 2>that he couldn't at Alabama, where he had a lot

0:38:04.239 --> 0:38:06.080
<v Speaker 2>of opportunity to there as well.

0:38:06.120 --> 0:38:09.319
<v Speaker 1>You could take any quarterback in the country against their

0:38:09.440 --> 0:38:12.319
<v Speaker 1>chances for the Heisman Trophy, and the odds will ever

0:38:12.360 --> 0:38:15.040
<v Speaker 1>be in a favor because it is such a hard

0:38:15.080 --> 0:38:18.839
<v Speaker 1>thing to win. There's so many variables. One other thing

0:38:18.880 --> 0:38:22.359
<v Speaker 1>that works in Jalen Hurts' favor here is the fact

0:38:22.400 --> 0:38:27.040
<v Speaker 1>that we saw Lincoln Riley adapt his offense on the

0:38:27.080 --> 0:38:30.200
<v Speaker 1>fly last year as some injuries happened, as he kind

0:38:30.200 --> 0:38:33.120
<v Speaker 1>of learned his personnel and he did a masterful job

0:38:33.160 --> 0:38:35.319
<v Speaker 1>of that. So if he can tailor a system to

0:38:35.400 --> 0:38:38.479
<v Speaker 1>Jalen Hurts his skill set, that would seemingly bode pretty

0:38:38.480 --> 0:38:39.000
<v Speaker 1>well for him.

0:38:39.400 --> 0:38:42.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And John asked a question along these lines that

0:38:42.320 --> 0:38:45.000
<v Speaker 2>we won't go too deep into. Why does somebody like

0:38:45.080 --> 0:38:47.880
<v Speaker 2>Russell Wilson or Gardner Minshew succeed and others like Malik

0:38:47.960 --> 0:38:51.400
<v Speaker 2>Zayer and the Zayhara and Max Brown not succeed as

0:38:51.480 --> 0:38:54.400
<v Speaker 2>much as grad transfer quarterbacks As a coaching scheme, personalities,

0:38:54.440 --> 0:38:57.240
<v Speaker 2>can these factors help us predict the potential for success

0:38:57.600 --> 0:39:00.440
<v Speaker 2>for the twenty nineteen quarterback transfers, of which we.

0:39:00.400 --> 0:39:00.959
<v Speaker 1>Have a lot.

0:39:01.280 --> 0:39:04.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would say sticking with grad transfer, you are

0:39:04.280 --> 0:39:07.040
<v Speaker 2>coming in either with one or sometimes you know, like

0:39:07.800 --> 0:39:09.560
<v Speaker 2>we've seen a couple of times a couple of years

0:39:09.880 --> 0:39:13.279
<v Speaker 2>to play and it just not work out. And I

0:39:13.320 --> 0:39:16.040
<v Speaker 2>think a lot of that is one you got beaten out.

0:39:16.400 --> 0:39:18.880
<v Speaker 2>You might be just a really good backup quarterback at

0:39:18.920 --> 0:39:21.719
<v Speaker 2>a top power five place and that's fine. Or two

0:39:22.160 --> 0:39:23.920
<v Speaker 2>you don't have much time to make an impression and

0:39:24.120 --> 0:39:27.080
<v Speaker 2>build a rapport and learn the offense and build confidence

0:39:27.360 --> 0:39:31.799
<v Speaker 2>with those around you. And sometimes it's just a bad fit.

0:39:32.120 --> 0:39:34.960
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes you are just you know, supposed to be playing

0:39:35.000 --> 0:39:37.720
<v Speaker 2>at William and Mary, Bill and Mary. Sometimes you should

0:39:37.760 --> 0:39:41.560
<v Speaker 2>just be playing at an FCS school or a lower

0:39:41.640 --> 0:39:44.360
<v Speaker 2>level Power five school and a school for whatever reason,

0:39:44.719 --> 0:39:48.160
<v Speaker 2>maybe like Florida State this year doesn't have the bodies,

0:39:48.520 --> 0:39:51.520
<v Speaker 2>and there's like we need to grab somebody, and then

0:39:51.560 --> 0:39:54.360
<v Speaker 2>you talk yourself into like I did with what was

0:39:54.400 --> 0:39:58.000
<v Speaker 2>his name was? It was pre Cop, Yeah, Dakota prew Cop. Yes,

0:39:58.040 --> 0:40:00.319
<v Speaker 2>he had the flat footed whatever. He was fine, but

0:40:00.360 --> 0:40:02.880
<v Speaker 2>nothing special and they ran out like you mentioned, jumping

0:40:02.880 --> 0:40:06.480
<v Speaker 2>flame to flame, as Oregon was doing with grid transfer quarterbacks.

0:40:07.239 --> 0:40:10.719
<v Speaker 2>You need to find somebody who is who did well

0:40:10.880 --> 0:40:13.279
<v Speaker 2>enough at their place, like Russell Wilson did at NC

0:40:13.440 --> 0:40:17.960
<v Speaker 2>State and for whatever reason, disagreement over baseball, disagreement over scheme,

0:40:18.000 --> 0:40:21.360
<v Speaker 2>like Gardner Minshew committed to ECU because he thought he

0:40:21.360 --> 0:40:23.560
<v Speaker 2>would be playing for Lincoln Riley. He was an air

0:40:23.600 --> 0:40:26.560
<v Speaker 2>aid guy like oh no, no, not a oh okay.

0:40:26.920 --> 0:40:29.759
<v Speaker 2>Went to Mike Leach in Washington State, much better fit

0:40:30.120 --> 0:40:34.319
<v Speaker 2>and had the personality to build Obviously a huge personality.

0:40:34.360 --> 0:40:36.480
<v Speaker 2>Everybody wanted to play with him, and he backed it

0:40:36.560 --> 0:40:40.120
<v Speaker 2>up with his arm. And I just think that elixir

0:40:40.800 --> 0:40:42.520
<v Speaker 2>is pretty rare to find.

0:40:42.600 --> 0:40:47.480
<v Speaker 1>Well, it's hard unless you're quite frankly a guy with

0:40:47.560 --> 0:40:51.640
<v Speaker 1>a high profile like a Jalen Hurts because oftentimes these

0:40:51.640 --> 0:40:54.200
<v Speaker 1>are kids just looking for a place to play, and

0:40:54.320 --> 0:40:58.200
<v Speaker 1>that might define my top priority over the scheme and

0:40:58.239 --> 0:41:00.680
<v Speaker 1>the fit and all the things that I think we

0:41:00.760 --> 0:41:03.919
<v Speaker 1>know now are more important when it comes to having

0:41:03.960 --> 0:41:08.520
<v Speaker 1>success versus otherwise. Somebody had sent us numbers way back

0:41:08.560 --> 0:41:14.239
<v Speaker 1>when on success. However they defined it among grad transfer quarterbacks,

0:41:14.719 --> 0:41:16.719
<v Speaker 1>it's actually quite low. There was a piece wed in

0:41:16.760 --> 0:41:20.040
<v Speaker 1>the Athletic I believe it was Max Olsen or Gosh

0:41:20.040 --> 0:41:22.160
<v Speaker 1>I forget who wrote something like that, but continue, Yeah,

0:41:22.160 --> 0:41:25.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean there are far more Maligue's a errors and

0:41:25.520 --> 0:41:28.919
<v Speaker 1>Max Brown's and the Russell Wilson's and Gardner Minshew's out there.

0:41:29.640 --> 0:41:32.160
<v Speaker 1>It takes time. I think that's like the reality.

0:41:32.200 --> 0:41:35.000
<v Speaker 2>It's about trust, babe, it's about tous but it's also

0:41:35.840 --> 0:41:37.719
<v Speaker 2>you're not going to fight like Vernon Adams was a

0:41:37.760 --> 0:41:40.560
<v Speaker 2>case where he had success against PAC twelve, PAC ten

0:41:40.600 --> 0:41:43.160
<v Speaker 2>teams whatever it was back then. Pack twelve teams at

0:41:43.160 --> 0:41:46.400
<v Speaker 2>Eastern Washington. He had that track record, there were data points.

0:41:46.680 --> 0:41:50.839
<v Speaker 2>We're like, okay, he is dominating these defenses, and in

0:41:50.880 --> 0:41:54.719
<v Speaker 2>other situations we don't have those data points. You need

0:41:54.760 --> 0:41:58.480
<v Speaker 2>the time, you need the reps. And there's just everybody

0:41:58.520 --> 0:42:01.280
<v Speaker 2>wants their grad transfer QB to come in like a

0:42:01.360 --> 0:42:03.640
<v Speaker 2>Lou Williams or Eddie House. If you're talking about like NBA,

0:42:03.680 --> 0:42:05.360
<v Speaker 2>those guys who just come in and pop some threes

0:42:05.400 --> 0:42:08.040
<v Speaker 2>and go back to the bench. I don't think that

0:42:08.160 --> 0:42:10.799
<v Speaker 2>is no all that easy to find it all with

0:42:10.880 --> 0:42:12.040
<v Speaker 2>such a difficult position.

0:42:12.520 --> 0:42:15.640
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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to think why did I let Dan do that. No, Ty,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got your best interests in mind here. This is

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<v Speaker 1>pick out a pair of sneakers that didn't look like

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<v Speaker 1>know what is the most obscure penalty you guys have

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<v Speaker 1>witnessed in all your years of watching college football. Mine

0:45:27.640 --> 0:45:27.959
<v Speaker 1>was an.

0:45:27.880 --> 0:45:36.040
<v Speaker 2>Illegal forward kick obscure penalty? Okay, so recently I have two? Okay, recently,

0:45:36.200 --> 0:45:38.839
<v Speaker 2>I love the double forward pass penalty and the cheese

0:45:38.840 --> 0:45:44.879
<v Speaker 2>at Bowl, an unbelievable attempt, not only a double pass,

0:45:44.920 --> 0:45:47.880
<v Speaker 2>but throwing two forward passes on one play. It was magic.

0:45:47.960 --> 0:45:50.279
<v Speaker 2>And then how do you not? I mean, even though

0:45:50.320 --> 0:45:53.440
<v Speaker 2>the penalty itself is common, I forget if it was

0:45:53.480 --> 0:45:55.160
<v Speaker 2>a personal foul or a block in the back. But

0:45:55.239 --> 0:46:00.279
<v Speaker 2>Ron Cherry two thousand and seven, six seven somewhere there

0:46:00.280 --> 0:46:02.560
<v Speaker 2>it was Maryland n C State. It was I think

0:46:02.560 --> 0:46:05.440
<v Speaker 2>a block in the back personal foul given him. The

0:46:05.520 --> 0:46:09.719
<v Speaker 2>business was what it was called over the stadium loud speakers.

0:46:09.719 --> 0:46:12.440
<v Speaker 2>I think it was NC State getting murdered by Maryland.

0:46:12.800 --> 0:46:15.040
<v Speaker 2>I think that's it was an old acc matchup that

0:46:15.080 --> 0:46:19.279
<v Speaker 2>no longer exists. Blocking the back personal foul. He was

0:46:19.320 --> 0:46:22.360
<v Speaker 2>giving him the business because I think he got somebody

0:46:22.400 --> 0:46:25.880
<v Speaker 2>got punched or hitting the giblets. The giblets, huh yeah,

0:46:26.000 --> 0:46:27.279
<v Speaker 2>the old giblet punch.

0:46:27.440 --> 0:46:29.960
<v Speaker 1>So you know, I don't know if this is obscure

0:46:31.080 --> 0:46:33.200
<v Speaker 1>the way that it feels like it's obscure to me.

0:46:33.680 --> 0:46:37.319
<v Speaker 1>But I just have a problem with the leaping penalty.

0:46:37.560 --> 0:46:41.239
<v Speaker 2>Okay, why because it's an athletic move that I feel

0:46:41.239 --> 0:46:42.319
<v Speaker 2>like you should be able to do.

0:46:42.239 --> 0:46:45.120
<v Speaker 1>It, like someone's gonna try and kick a field goal

0:46:45.200 --> 0:46:49.200
<v Speaker 1>or an extra point. And if if you can jump

0:46:49.239 --> 0:46:52.040
<v Speaker 1>up on someone's back or I don't know, if you

0:46:52.040 --> 0:46:53.640
<v Speaker 1>can figure out a way to get your body in

0:46:53.640 --> 0:46:55.719
<v Speaker 1>front of it and knock it down, that seems like

0:46:55.760 --> 0:46:59.279
<v Speaker 1>that should be legal to me. I just read the

0:47:00.360 --> 0:47:03.480
<v Speaker 1>Bill Belichick book by because I just love nerding out

0:47:03.480 --> 0:47:06.319
<v Speaker 1>about coaches sometimes that's how I get my football fix.

0:47:06.360 --> 0:47:10.640
<v Speaker 1>I read these giant tomes tomes tombs of college football

0:47:10.680 --> 0:47:15.919
<v Speaker 1>coaching and or football coaching. And his football career ended.

0:47:15.920 --> 0:47:20.720
<v Speaker 1>He was a backup center, and his coach at Wesleyan,

0:47:20.840 --> 0:47:23.239
<v Speaker 1>I want to say, is where he played devised the

0:47:23.360 --> 0:47:28.840
<v Speaker 1>perfect not at all. Blocking strategy for kicks Basically, the

0:47:28.920 --> 0:47:32.279
<v Speaker 1>two defensive tackles right in front of the center were

0:47:32.320 --> 0:47:36.040
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0:47:36.080 --> 0:47:40.719
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0:47:40.760 --> 0:47:44.319
<v Speaker 1>gap to block the kick. And they had Bill Belichick

0:47:44.680 --> 0:47:46.880
<v Speaker 1>do this as the backup center. He was like the

0:47:47.880 --> 0:47:50.919
<v Speaker 1>guinea pig in practice. He had to do like ten

0:47:51.000 --> 0:47:54.280
<v Speaker 1>times to have his legs taken out and pinned and

0:47:54.360 --> 0:47:58.359
<v Speaker 1>his legs snapped, and it was never a legal move.

0:47:59.040 --> 0:48:02.839
<v Speaker 1>It was so so ugly and bad. So it's a

0:48:02.920 --> 0:48:05.400
<v Speaker 1>safety thing, is what I'm trying to tell you. With

0:48:05.520 --> 0:48:08.839
<v Speaker 1>the leaping in the centers and everything. I get it,

0:48:08.880 --> 0:48:11.520
<v Speaker 1>I get, but it just, you know, feels like it's

0:48:11.520 --> 0:48:13.360
<v Speaker 1>something you should be able to do block a kick.

0:48:13.520 --> 0:48:18.680
<v Speaker 2>I understand, I'm with you, And I love a good kick.

0:48:18.760 --> 0:48:21.480
<v Speaker 2>I love a good extra point block because it's such

0:48:21.480 --> 0:48:24.000
<v Speaker 2>a routine thing to have an extra point through the

0:48:24.080 --> 0:48:26.400
<v Speaker 2>uprights and then oh what huh what six?

0:48:26.680 --> 0:48:26.879
<v Speaker 1>No?

0:48:26.880 --> 0:48:30.919
<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, what that's great. Next question, somebody asked

0:48:30.960 --> 0:48:34.480
<v Speaker 2>us about the most disrespected by sports media teams.

0:48:35.200 --> 0:48:36.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh, do you have any answers?

0:48:36.920 --> 0:48:39.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's what does that actually mean, Like accomplishments

0:48:39.800 --> 0:48:43.120
<v Speaker 2>aren't acknowledged, I guess, or people just don't like their

0:48:43.120 --> 0:48:45.440
<v Speaker 2>fans online and so they like making fun of them,

0:48:45.560 --> 0:48:46.879
<v Speaker 2>like Florida State and Ohio State.

0:48:47.120 --> 0:48:51.160
<v Speaker 1>Most disrespected. Michigan State obviously is the right joke has

0:48:51.239 --> 0:48:57.840
<v Speaker 1>to be for their disrespect. I would say very generally

0:48:58.680 --> 0:49:04.359
<v Speaker 1>that teams in far off places like Washington State who

0:49:04.360 --> 0:49:10.400
<v Speaker 1>are consistently winning, are consistently winning inadvertently fall into this category.

0:49:10.440 --> 0:49:11.239
<v Speaker 1>More often than not.

0:49:11.360 --> 0:49:17.239
<v Speaker 2>People still disrespect the Colgate defense. That's call Schaffner threw

0:49:17.400 --> 0:49:19.440
<v Speaker 2>together with chicken, wire and heart.

0:49:21.200 --> 0:49:22.640
<v Speaker 1>That's my answer for FCS.

0:49:23.520 --> 0:49:25.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that's what it is. The place is

0:49:25.080 --> 0:49:28.359
<v Speaker 2>that I don't think what can we do? We can

0:49:28.360 --> 0:49:29.959
<v Speaker 2>only talk about it so much. We do two shows

0:49:29.960 --> 0:49:31.759
<v Speaker 2>a week during the season. But there are certain teams

0:49:31.800 --> 0:49:34.040
<v Speaker 2>where it is just harder to win. There and coaches

0:49:34.080 --> 0:49:36.360
<v Speaker 2>who are able to you know, Utah making the leap

0:49:36.680 --> 0:49:38.799
<v Speaker 2>from a Mountain West school, even though they did so

0:49:39.400 --> 0:49:41.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, gradually, and they built up and they started

0:49:41.440 --> 0:49:43.480
<v Speaker 2>dominating the Mountain West and blah blah blah.

0:49:43.200 --> 0:49:44.439
<v Speaker 1>They did it right.

0:49:44.920 --> 0:49:47.520
<v Speaker 2>But Utah winning consistently with Kyle Whittingham I think we

0:49:47.600 --> 0:49:50.200
<v Speaker 2>just sort of accept and don't really appreciate, perhaps as

0:49:50.239 --> 0:49:50.840
<v Speaker 2>much as we should.

0:49:50.880 --> 0:49:51.319
<v Speaker 1>Washington State.

0:49:51.320 --> 0:49:54.040
<v Speaker 2>It's a good answer what Iowa State has done in

0:49:54.120 --> 0:49:56.880
<v Speaker 2>winning and becoming a consistent bowl team and beating some giants.

0:49:56.880 --> 0:50:01.120
<v Speaker 2>I think Northwestern, you know what they've done with It's

0:50:01.280 --> 0:50:04.160
<v Speaker 2>more difficult to win there. For a long time. They

0:50:04.280 --> 0:50:06.000
<v Speaker 2>had bad facilities.

0:50:06.040 --> 0:50:06.479
<v Speaker 1>I know they.

0:50:06.400 --> 0:50:11.279
<v Speaker 2>Recently upgraded them. I think what Virginia has done with

0:50:11.800 --> 0:50:16.600
<v Speaker 2>Bronco Mendenhall. I don't think they're disrespected, but it's impressive,

0:50:16.640 --> 0:50:19.000
<v Speaker 2>nonetheless to win at these places that just don't have

0:50:19.080 --> 0:50:24.000
<v Speaker 2>the resources. Not that again, Virginia has plenty. Virginia is fine.

0:50:24.080 --> 0:50:26.400
<v Speaker 2>So those are the teams I think that are winning

0:50:26.440 --> 0:50:29.560
<v Speaker 2>and going to bowls consistently, like where Purdue came from,

0:50:29.840 --> 0:50:32.040
<v Speaker 2>where they were with Daryl Hazel to where they are now.

0:50:31.920 --> 0:50:32.600
<v Speaker 1>With Jeff Brohm.

0:50:33.040 --> 0:50:35.799
<v Speaker 2>I don't think people are disrespecting them, but I think

0:50:35.840 --> 0:50:38.960
<v Speaker 2>it should be pointed out that they have steeper climbs

0:50:39.040 --> 0:50:41.400
<v Speaker 2>than most and are doing so anyway.

0:50:41.440 --> 0:50:43.600
<v Speaker 1>They're getting to the top for them all right, Before

0:50:43.680 --> 0:50:47.879
<v Speaker 1>we get to some life questions here, First time, long

0:50:47.960 --> 0:50:50.959
<v Speaker 1>time from mort in Columbus. He says do you find

0:50:51.000 --> 0:50:54.640
<v Speaker 1>the off field drama, the TV contracts, the conference realignment,

0:50:54.680 --> 0:50:59.359
<v Speaker 1>recruiting flips and other oddities the off field stuff as

0:50:59.440 --> 0:51:03.640
<v Speaker 1>boring in tedious as I do. For me, it's mostly

0:51:03.680 --> 0:51:06.360
<v Speaker 1>a reminder that I'm not watching actual football. Dam what

0:51:06.360 --> 0:51:12.319
<v Speaker 1>are your thoughts? Right? For most people, for most teams, right,

0:51:12.400 --> 0:51:15.879
<v Speaker 1>if the math checks out, you get twelve days out

0:51:15.880 --> 0:51:18.880
<v Speaker 1>of three sixty five. And this has just become a

0:51:18.880 --> 0:51:21.839
<v Speaker 1>thing in sports. I mean, how much when you pay

0:51:21.880 --> 0:51:22.680
<v Speaker 1>attention to.

0:51:23.239 --> 0:51:25.880
<v Speaker 2>ESPN or Fox or SI or any of these big places,

0:51:26.239 --> 0:51:29.400
<v Speaker 2>how much of the NBA headlines are about, oh, shoot,

0:51:29.480 --> 0:51:32.200
<v Speaker 2>Chris Middleston, Chris Middleton, excuse me, twenty two to ten?

0:51:32.600 --> 0:51:35.720
<v Speaker 2>Or how much is ooh, johannest is thinking about drafting

0:51:35.760 --> 0:51:38.480
<v Speaker 2>Steph Curry number one in the All Star Oh, Anthony.

0:51:38.120 --> 0:51:40.920
<v Speaker 1>Davis has requested to trade. This is everywhere.

0:51:41.000 --> 0:51:43.080
<v Speaker 2>This is the NFL has created a year long thing.

0:51:43.520 --> 0:51:46.000
<v Speaker 2>The NBA is a year long thing. And this is

0:51:46.080 --> 0:51:49.960
<v Speaker 2>college football. With college football does not sell winning. College

0:51:50.000 --> 0:51:53.080
<v Speaker 2>football to me sells hope. College Ball's in the hope business.

0:51:53.080 --> 0:51:56.399
<v Speaker 2>And that's recruiting and new coaches and spring practice and

0:51:56.440 --> 0:51:58.839
<v Speaker 2>fall camp and ooh, this guy beat out this guy

0:51:58.880 --> 0:52:02.240
<v Speaker 2>for a week side linebacker. That's what is being sold

0:52:02.400 --> 0:52:06.120
<v Speaker 2>more than anything right or wrong. Sure, and so I

0:52:06.200 --> 0:52:10.880
<v Speaker 2>understand missing actual football, and I think this is a

0:52:11.080 --> 0:52:13.480
<v Speaker 2>very good time to work on other parts of your

0:52:13.520 --> 0:52:18.319
<v Speaker 2>life if you don't like the drama and the mundane. Oh,

0:52:18.360 --> 0:52:21.239
<v Speaker 2>the SEC brought in forty four million dollars because of

0:52:21.239 --> 0:52:24.280
<v Speaker 2>their TV deal compared to thirty one for the PAC twelve.

0:52:24.760 --> 0:52:27.640
<v Speaker 2>It's fine if you don't like it. Ultimately, it's kind

0:52:27.640 --> 0:52:31.239
<v Speaker 2>of inconsequential. Sure, go get your mile time up. And

0:52:31.280 --> 0:52:33.959
<v Speaker 2>he actually said, how do I learn to cook Mexican food?

0:52:34.280 --> 0:52:37.160
<v Speaker 2>Let's make you a Mexican chef this spring.

0:52:37.239 --> 0:52:39.440
<v Speaker 1>Here's the other thing I'd add moret thank you for

0:52:39.480 --> 0:52:41.400
<v Speaker 1>writing and thank you for listening for a long time.

0:52:42.680 --> 0:52:45.320
<v Speaker 1>We're not the best people to ask on this topic,

0:52:45.360 --> 0:52:49.600
<v Speaker 1>because we do. We trained in this. We require to

0:52:49.640 --> 0:52:54.280
<v Speaker 1>be news on TV contracts and conference realignment, recruiting flips,

0:52:54.920 --> 0:52:58.680
<v Speaker 1>all the arrests, the things that maybe don't truly matter

0:52:58.719 --> 0:53:01.759
<v Speaker 1>in the scheme of football. We require that stuff in

0:53:01.840 --> 0:53:04.879
<v Speaker 1>order to do a year round show. So inevitably, Dan

0:53:04.920 --> 0:53:06.600
<v Speaker 1>and I are a little bit more interested in than

0:53:06.680 --> 0:53:09.320
<v Speaker 1>maybe some of your other buddies who are into college football.

0:53:09.360 --> 0:53:11.919
<v Speaker 2>We still make up fake fantasy drafts, do We still

0:53:12.160 --> 0:53:15.080
<v Speaker 2>do brackets for things that are secretly garbage that people

0:53:15.120 --> 0:53:18.680
<v Speaker 2>seem to like but are actually garbage, and so we

0:53:18.800 --> 0:53:22.560
<v Speaker 2>at least try to cause Yeah. I think he's right.

0:53:22.680 --> 0:53:27.520
<v Speaker 2>I think the off field drama is ephemeral. It disappears.

0:53:27.719 --> 0:53:30.080
<v Speaker 2>It ultimately is not going to mean much unless it's

0:53:30.120 --> 0:53:32.960
<v Speaker 2>a star player or a great coach and something, unless

0:53:32.960 --> 0:53:36.480
<v Speaker 2>it turns your program upside down. So I'm okay with

0:53:36.520 --> 0:53:39.399
<v Speaker 2>you checking out. Just throw us the download. That's all

0:53:39.480 --> 0:53:42.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm here to say. Throw us the download, and then

0:53:42.440 --> 0:53:44.560
<v Speaker 2>go listen to whatever your mom's house.

0:53:45.080 --> 0:53:48.640
<v Speaker 1>Sam says when in the dating process, should we have a.

0:53:48.719 --> 0:53:50.800
<v Speaker 2>Should we have like a sound as we now transition

0:53:50.880 --> 0:53:52.000
<v Speaker 2>away from college football?

0:53:52.040 --> 0:53:53.200
<v Speaker 1>After somebody said.

0:53:53.520 --> 0:53:57.040
<v Speaker 2>He finds it tedious when we transition, not we, but

0:53:57.320 --> 0:54:01.640
<v Speaker 2>as America transitions. So here we go the college football world.

0:54:02.400 --> 0:54:04.839
<v Speaker 1>Okay, the first thing I had at the ready, the

0:54:04.880 --> 0:54:09.319
<v Speaker 1>college football portion of this show has basically concluded. I'm

0:54:09.360 --> 0:54:11.480
<v Speaker 1>not going to say that with absolution, but I think

0:54:11.480 --> 0:54:14.600
<v Speaker 1>it has concluded. Yeah, play the dramatics. Sound the lights

0:54:14.600 --> 0:54:16.919
<v Speaker 1>are coming down. Now we're going to talk a little life. Yeah,

0:54:16.920 --> 0:54:21.520
<v Speaker 1>it sucks my life. Sam says when in the dating process,

0:54:22.560 --> 0:54:28.520
<v Speaker 1>for which date number is Chili's an acceptable date? Okay,

0:54:28.680 --> 0:54:31.480
<v Speaker 1>some would say the first date. I say the third

0:54:32.080 --> 0:54:35.440
<v Speaker 1>because the first and second should be unique and the

0:54:35.480 --> 0:54:39.680
<v Speaker 1>third should be Let's do something common together to see

0:54:39.680 --> 0:54:42.640
<v Speaker 1>how much we actually enjoy each other's company, minus the

0:54:42.719 --> 0:54:47.000
<v Speaker 1>nice dinners or fancy barstand Chili's, I would. I'm just

0:54:47.000 --> 0:54:50.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna surmise here, where was your first date with solid

0:54:50.040 --> 0:54:50.480
<v Speaker 1>wife Kate?

0:54:51.520 --> 0:54:54.280
<v Speaker 2>I believe read Robin. Yeah, so that's that's a Chili's cousin.

0:54:54.360 --> 0:54:55.200
<v Speaker 2>So you can speak to this.

0:54:55.840 --> 0:54:59.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I believe you probably have a hotter take on

0:54:59.800 --> 0:55:00.719
<v Speaker 1>this matter than I do.

0:55:01.600 --> 0:55:06.759
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So I don't want to be a cidyist, regionist

0:55:07.160 --> 0:55:10.920
<v Speaker 2>geographist because I've I've grew up in the Los Angeles

0:55:10.960 --> 0:55:12.719
<v Speaker 2>area and I live in New York. So I'm not

0:55:12.800 --> 0:55:14.399
<v Speaker 2>going to tell you not to eat it Chili's because

0:55:14.440 --> 0:55:18.680
<v Speaker 2>Chiliess is fine. I'm going to say one Chili's is

0:55:18.719 --> 0:55:23.000
<v Speaker 2>not super impressive. If you have a comparable local option,

0:55:23.120 --> 0:55:25.040
<v Speaker 2>keep that money in your neighborhood, you know, instead of

0:55:25.080 --> 0:55:27.560
<v Speaker 2>eating good in the neighborhood. What is that Applebee's, Apple,

0:55:28.280 --> 0:55:32.080
<v Speaker 2>that's Applebee's. If there is a chili's like Burger beer

0:55:32.200 --> 0:55:35.319
<v Speaker 2>bar that is good and cool and interesting, maybe with

0:55:35.360 --> 0:55:38.080
<v Speaker 2>an outside eating option. If it's that, if it's appropriate

0:55:38.120 --> 0:55:40.400
<v Speaker 2>for that time of year, I would I would avoid

0:55:40.440 --> 0:55:43.560
<v Speaker 2>chili's as long as possible, unless it's particularly convenient, like

0:55:43.600 --> 0:55:45.920
<v Speaker 2>you're starving when you get out of a movie and other's.

0:55:45.680 --> 0:55:48.200
<v Speaker 1>A chili And that was the deal with Red Rock.

0:55:48.400 --> 0:55:51.719
<v Speaker 1>It's nothing, absolutely nothing wrong right next to the movie theater.

0:55:52.560 --> 0:55:54.840
<v Speaker 2>But this is what you have to keep in mind.

0:55:55.360 --> 0:55:59.440
<v Speaker 2>You're trying to impress your date right first date. You're

0:55:59.440 --> 0:56:01.799
<v Speaker 2>trying to not necessarily impressed her like Ooh, I'm I

0:56:01.840 --> 0:56:03.800
<v Speaker 2>have a ton of money and I'm charming and suave.

0:56:04.000 --> 0:56:06.920
<v Speaker 2>You want to impress her by saying I'm not creepy

0:56:06.960 --> 0:56:10.160
<v Speaker 2>and weird. That's the biggest priority. It doesn't matter where

0:56:10.200 --> 0:56:11.920
<v Speaker 2>you eat. If you eat it Chili's, you eat it, Chili's.

0:56:11.920 --> 0:56:14.440
<v Speaker 2>Who cares. So if you want it to be date one,

0:56:14.520 --> 0:56:16.560
<v Speaker 2>that's fine. I would try to get more creative with

0:56:16.600 --> 0:56:19.759
<v Speaker 2>it or more local with it. I would say Date one,

0:56:20.280 --> 0:56:23.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm not creepy and weird. Date two, let me confirm

0:56:24.360 --> 0:56:27.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm definitely not creepy and weird. That's what's most important.

0:56:27.600 --> 0:56:29.000
<v Speaker 2>The food doesn't matter as much.

0:56:29.520 --> 0:56:30.120
<v Speaker 1>Date three.

0:56:30.520 --> 0:56:33.200
<v Speaker 2>I would say, once you've confirmed that you're not creepy

0:56:33.200 --> 0:56:37.120
<v Speaker 2>and weird, I think you should make a push. Doesn't

0:56:37.160 --> 0:56:41.840
<v Speaker 2>have to happen. Maybe cook for your date. Okay, I

0:56:41.880 --> 0:56:43.799
<v Speaker 2>think that's that's an interesting It shows.

0:56:43.760 --> 0:56:46.800
<v Speaker 1>You're anti chili. Is what you're telling is not anti chili,

0:56:46.880 --> 0:56:48.160
<v Speaker 1>anti chili. Do you can admit it?

0:56:48.480 --> 0:56:50.360
<v Speaker 2>Well, what I will say is you can admit it

0:56:50.719 --> 0:56:54.000
<v Speaker 2>as much as Chili's it's chiliess is okay, it's not bad,

0:56:54.040 --> 0:56:56.319
<v Speaker 2>It's not great, but it's fine, great corn on the cup.

0:56:56.680 --> 0:56:59.680
<v Speaker 2>As much as they try, Chili's is never going to

0:56:59.719 --> 0:57:03.560
<v Speaker 2>be able to replicate a really good local place that

0:57:03.600 --> 0:57:07.600
<v Speaker 2>has character, that has regulars whatever. Even if even if

0:57:07.600 --> 0:57:10.680
<v Speaker 2>the food isn't as good, there's something about the energy

0:57:10.719 --> 0:57:13.239
<v Speaker 2>of a good local place that you lose by going

0:57:13.280 --> 0:57:14.239
<v Speaker 2>to a national chain.

0:57:14.560 --> 0:57:18.720
<v Speaker 1>Is that fair? Absolutely fair? Oh? Absolutely fair? So I

0:57:18.760 --> 0:57:21.480
<v Speaker 1>would I would have. I would avoid the corporate energy

0:57:21.600 --> 0:57:25.320
<v Speaker 1>as long as possible. It's convenient. The red robin thing

0:57:25.360 --> 0:57:27.600
<v Speaker 1>for me was super convenient. That's why we went there. Right.

0:57:27.880 --> 0:57:32.680
<v Speaker 1>That's again, you are a Red Robin's success story. That's right, absolutely.

0:57:33.040 --> 0:57:36.480
<v Speaker 2>I would also, if it's convenient, go, But if you

0:57:36.600 --> 0:57:38.760
<v Speaker 2>have the choice, opt local.

0:57:38.960 --> 0:57:42.960
<v Speaker 1>You also may be able to accentuate your personality a

0:57:43.000 --> 0:57:46.200
<v Speaker 1>bit if you could sort of play off the whole

0:57:46.240 --> 0:57:49.280
<v Speaker 1>Chilis thing and turn it into an inside joke, that

0:57:49.360 --> 0:57:52.120
<v Speaker 1>could have some less Yeah, all right, that can make

0:57:52.160 --> 0:57:55.440
<v Speaker 1>for a fun date. But generally, I think I'm with you.

0:57:56.000 --> 0:57:57.800
<v Speaker 1>Do you think the longer you can push it off

0:57:57.800 --> 0:58:00.920
<v Speaker 1>the better? Do you think Sam is asked us this question?

0:58:01.360 --> 0:58:02.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if this is a man, woman, whatever,

0:58:02.960 --> 0:58:05.040
<v Speaker 1>but do you think Sam is asking us this question

0:58:05.600 --> 0:58:09.840
<v Speaker 1>because he's into Somebody doesn't want to be embarrassed if

0:58:09.880 --> 0:58:12.160
<v Speaker 1>they have, if they have like snooty tastes or whatever.

0:58:12.640 --> 0:58:18.280
<v Speaker 1>But Sam effin loves chi Chili's is his wheelsouse fudge.

0:58:18.560 --> 0:58:20.640
<v Speaker 1>I need those rims.

0:58:21.160 --> 0:58:23.600
<v Speaker 2>Like he doesn't want to be embarrassed that he loves

0:58:23.640 --> 0:58:29.080
<v Speaker 2>it so much, Like he's Sam is just all about chili.

0:58:29.200 --> 0:58:31.120
<v Speaker 1>He sent this in from a Chili's.

0:58:31.160 --> 0:58:34.920
<v Speaker 2>Right this This is written by Samuel L. Chili, founder

0:58:35.000 --> 0:58:39.560
<v Speaker 2>of Chili's. I think it's I think it's acceptable whenever

0:58:40.280 --> 0:58:43.600
<v Speaker 2>just you want, you want that non corporate energy to

0:58:43.640 --> 0:58:44.800
<v Speaker 2>last as long as possible.

0:58:44.840 --> 0:58:46.280
<v Speaker 1>You got to be aware of the fact that you're

0:58:46.320 --> 0:58:48.440
<v Speaker 1>at a Chili's, I think, is what I'm saying. Yeah,

0:58:48.840 --> 0:58:52.320
<v Speaker 1>while you're there. Okay, good question, by the way. Okay, next,

0:58:52.480 --> 0:58:55.520
<v Speaker 1>uh Bo writes in as someone who brews beer for

0:58:55.560 --> 0:58:58.880
<v Speaker 1>a living, shout out Druid City Brewing. I listened to

0:58:58.960 --> 0:59:03.360
<v Speaker 1>a lot of music other than American football. What other

0:59:03.560 --> 0:59:08.960
<v Speaker 1>Midwest emo should I brew to here in Tuscaloosa? Also

0:59:08.960 --> 0:59:13.200
<v Speaker 1>any chalkboard ideas? Wow, we were on the Druid City Chalkboard.

0:59:13.280 --> 0:59:15.760
<v Speaker 2>We were not earlier, that famous famous chalkboard. A lot

0:59:15.800 --> 0:59:18.520
<v Speaker 2>of college football related drawing, which.

0:59:18.400 --> 0:59:20.680
<v Speaker 1>Was like a huge deal. We were very excited about that.

0:59:20.960 --> 0:59:25.880
<v Speaker 1>On the Secret cellverble g Chi Honor. Okay, Midwestern emo bands, ty,

0:59:26.560 --> 0:59:28.680
<v Speaker 1>do you have I have suggestions? Do you know you

0:59:28.720 --> 0:59:30.440
<v Speaker 1>get to go first on emo? You know that? All right?

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<v Speaker 2>So if you're going authentically Midwestern emo, probably cap and Jazz.

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<v Speaker 2>They've been around forever. They're a Midwestern pioneer on the

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<v Speaker 2>emo scene. I love There's a band I don't even

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<v Speaker 2>know if they exist anymore. There's a band called Spittlefield

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<v Speaker 2>from Chicago album Remember Right Now Great from like early

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<v Speaker 2>two thousands, promised Ring Classic. They're from Milwaukee if we

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<v Speaker 2>consider Lawrence, Kansas to be Midwest, which I think is

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<v Speaker 2>probably planes but midwest to Jason, obviously, you've got your

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<v Speaker 2>Get Up Kids Alkaline Trios from Chicago, and I'll give

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<v Speaker 2>them a bonus. Nowhere near the Midwest, but I think

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<v Speaker 2>it would. I think it would work for brewing beer.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a band from Orange County. Also, don't think they

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<v Speaker 2>exist anymore. Shows how old we are called lim Beck.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, l imb We talked about them on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>We absolutely have talked about limb Beck. I think lim

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<v Speaker 2>Beck would be great. I think the album is Hi,

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<v Speaker 2>Everything's great or Hey, everything's fine. There's two of them

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<v Speaker 2>that are like there's like an acoustic version that has

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<v Speaker 2>one of them's great, one of them's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>That would be my recommendation. My gap and jazz outline,

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<v Speaker 2>Treio Get Up Kids promised Rings Middlefield bonus.

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<v Speaker 1>Limb Beck. My thing was more pop punk, and so

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<v Speaker 1>so you'll say, like, okay, early Fallout Boy. They're from Chicago. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, certainly early all American rejects from Stillwater, Oklahoma. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>That also that's the get Up kids planes corollary, but yeah, yes, okay, what.

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<v Speaker 1>Is the most emo team in the SEC? And I

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<v Speaker 1>hate I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Generally like these questions emo. Huh so the most emo

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<v Speaker 2>team in the SEC? This from Andy? And why is

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<v Speaker 2>it South Carolina? I think we need to define broadly

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<v Speaker 2>how we're approaching this, sort of like a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of self loathing doesn't really fit in, doesn't really fit in?

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<v Speaker 2>Got some heartbreak, a lot of heartbreak, violent imagery, violent imagery.

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<v Speaker 2>There's like an underground element to to emo. Wear your

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<v Speaker 2>emotions out for everybody to see.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm thinking of a couple teams here. South Carolina works,

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<v Speaker 1>South Carolin pretty well. Why does South Carolina work? To you? So?

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<v Speaker 1>South Carolina? I believe?

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<v Speaker 2>Were they the most recent team to join the SEC

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<v Speaker 2>before ya Zoo and A and M. It is correct,

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<v Speaker 2>So they're like the new kid trying to fit in.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a definite theme, wearing their emotions for everybody to see. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>must champ check. Yep, heartbreak played a lot of close

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<v Speaker 2>games this year. Yep check violent imagery again, must champ.

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<v Speaker 2>There's the underground elements. I don't know if that fully fits,

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<v Speaker 2>but they play Sandstorm and that feels like it also

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<v Speaker 2>was a hit during when Emo was turned the time

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<v Speaker 2>EMO really soword, so that feels right. I think South

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<v Speaker 2>Carolina is a good answer. I would also say Mississippi State.

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<v Speaker 1>Mississippi State is one that comes to mind. I was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say Missouri. Missouri might be the easy answer, the

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<v Speaker 1>low hanging fruit because they're one of the newer kids

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<v Speaker 1>on the block. But the one thing that comes to

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<v Speaker 1>mind for me, and this is just on a personal level,

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<v Speaker 1>but when I'm putting in tags on some of the

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<v Speaker 1>SEC shows that we do, and I have to tag

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<v Speaker 1>a posting with all of the team names in the SEC,

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<v Speaker 1>inevitably I forget about Missouri because in my mind, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it's just like a weird mental block. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>Missouri does not feel like they're part of the southeast

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<v Speaker 1>part of the United States. That's like, I mean, neither

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<v Speaker 1>does Houston Station. Absolutely, and I forget them too, But

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<v Speaker 1>more often than not, Missouri is the team I forget

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<v Speaker 1>because they just don't feel like they be and they're

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<v Speaker 1>in the East and certainly it's not as high profile

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<v Speaker 1>as the West. That's fine. Emotion. Barry Otam had that

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<v Speaker 1>emotional tirade. What was it a year ago? That's true, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>some heartbreak. We've watched the offense. We've watched the defense

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<v Speaker 1>at times like each has had their own trials and tribulations.

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<v Speaker 1>The twenty fifteen offense down and out in a bad place.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think Missouri might be low hanging fruit. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's probably my answer.

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<v Speaker 2>I have Mississippi State here just because of the feeling

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<v Speaker 2>alienated in a way, Starkville is a little bit different

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<v Speaker 2>than the rest of the SEC in terms of geography

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<v Speaker 2>and attitude, not a good or bad way, They're just different.

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<v Speaker 2>And then there is the element of that emo or

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<v Speaker 2>scream o singer whatever holding the mic over the crowd,

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<v Speaker 2>and you get that loud feedback from the crowd yelling

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<v Speaker 2>the lyrics, and there's that cowbell elements where you're getting

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<v Speaker 2>that audience participation, like you go into a dashboard show,

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<v Speaker 2>you go to whatever show, and you have that roar

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<v Speaker 2>from the crowd, And I think Mississippi State fits. That

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<v Speaker 2>next question comes to us, Hmmm, this I'm gonna I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna throw to you. I have an answer, but I

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<v Speaker 2>know you're gonna feel more passionately about this because you

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<v Speaker 2>are you will drop me as soon as the Weather

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<v Speaker 2>channel comes calling.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if you were saying we want you to be

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<v Speaker 2>Cantory two point zero, you will change your phone number

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<v Speaker 2>and block me. You have endless money, Curtis asks and

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<v Speaker 2>a time and the time for one whole year, and

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<v Speaker 2>you can chase storms anywhere. Top five types of weather

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<v Speaker 2>events you'd want to witness in person? Wow, so this

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<v Speaker 2>isn't I guess it's chasing, but it's also you just

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<v Speaker 2>want to be present to see what it's like.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, okay, see I feel very guilty answering this

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<v Speaker 1>question because the kinds of things that I'd like to

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<v Speaker 1>see probably result in hardship for a lot of people. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>many of whom listen to the show, so asterisk. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not trying to champion any of.

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<v Speaker 2>These How many of these things would you like to

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<v Speaker 2>see in a remote place with nobody living, so nobody

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be physically affected by this crazy storm.

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<v Speaker 2>You are able to go see it in a in

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<v Speaker 2>a barren wasteland or an uninhabited place.

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<v Speaker 1>A tornado would be cool on a dessert, and it

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<v Speaker 1>would be cool Tornia. There are people who do this

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<v Speaker 1>for a living a tourney.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you ever see those like tankers that the storm

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<v Speaker 2>chasers are in that way up bajillion pounds.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like tanks, man, they are they are basically tanks.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you been in a white out? I've been in

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<v Speaker 1>a white out? Yeah, I've been in a white out.

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<v Speaker 1>How is a white out? It's crazy, it's all white,

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<v Speaker 1>it's wild. I never really have.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been snowed in, and that's that's blizzard conditions. But

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think I've ever been able to stand outside

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<v Speaker 2>and not see anything in front.

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<v Speaker 1>Of like my hands.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you ever have you ever been on a mountain?

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<v Speaker 2>I would love to be adjacent to an avalanche, But

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<v Speaker 2>is that a weather event? That's not a wall not.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a weather event in that you need a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of snow. But then conditions change, obviously on the mountains,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's like in the same vein as storm surge

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<v Speaker 2>at a hurricane. It's like a result of another phenomenon.

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<v Speaker 1>If I could be in a dope cabin on an

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<v Speaker 1>adjacent mountain and just be sipping coffee watching an avalanche

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<v Speaker 1>affect no human life, I'd be a hell of a

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<v Speaker 1>morning along the same lines. What about a good mud slide.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I guess that is. It is technically a storm

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<v Speaker 2>and weather event. It's the after effects. I They're not

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<v Speaker 2>as great, They're not as fun. There's a rumble to

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<v Speaker 2>an avalanche that I don't feel like you get with mudslides.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you this, ty, and I've experienced it, probably

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<v Speaker 2>not on the level that you know. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if it's an Oklahoma or Texas whoever gets it most violently.

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<v Speaker 2>There's something about hale. Oh yeah, hale does it for me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not a spiritual person. I'm not a religious person.

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<v Speaker 2>Rain is rain, snow is snow. Hale feels biblical. There

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<v Speaker 2>is something about hale where like, oh, somebody is upset

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<v Speaker 2>up there about something, and there is something beautifully violent

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<v Speaker 2>about hail as long as it's not affecting you know,

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<v Speaker 2>people or property in significant ways. I react in a

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<v Speaker 2>very visceral way to hale and like being in a

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<v Speaker 2>crazy hailstorm.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. It kind of does it for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought of my answer. The answer isn't so much

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<v Speaker 1>a tornado. It's a water spout. What is what? It's

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<v Speaker 1>a tornado over water? A close cousin of the fire

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<v Speaker 1>spout or fire whirl. Maybe it's called which is a

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<v Speaker 1>tornado over Like, what was it that you just sent me?

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<v Speaker 1>That something under Chicago? Yeh oh my gosh. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>when the fault lines fill with water and freezer or something.

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<v Speaker 1>That's when water in the ground freezes and it causes

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<v Speaker 1>causes a reaction in the ground and it makes the

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<v Speaker 1>plates a boom. Yeah, tectonics. Love tech. There are also

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<v Speaker 1>some crazy like cloud formations that arise that I might

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<v Speaker 1>like to see. But my number one answer is a

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<v Speaker 1>water spout. That's a good answer. I like that. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I think here, let's go. There's two more questions than

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<v Speaker 1>I guess. We'll talk personal stuff. Do you feel compelled

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<v Speaker 1>to like love slash retweet your significant other social media posts?

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan wants to know. Yes, So your wife is on Twitter.

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<v Speaker 1>She is yeah, good tweeter. I say that I follow her,

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<v Speaker 1>I enjoy her tweet. She will love to hear that

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<v Speaker 1>thank you dance for good Twitter.

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<v Speaker 2>My wife is not on Twitter. She posts on Instagram

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<v Speaker 2>maybe once a year and wants nothing to do with

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<v Speaker 2>social media. But I understand that there's there are pressures

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<v Speaker 2>that come along with it, and to that, I say,

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<v Speaker 2>delete all of your social media accounts. It's not doing

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<v Speaker 2>you any good. You can follow us on Twitter and

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<v Speaker 2>that's it. It's rough out there man, social media. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I've had people say to me, did you see this picture?

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen media people post things like I see you

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<v Speaker 2>out there watching my Instagram stories but not liking my

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<v Speaker 2>posts smart, interesting, funny. People get their brain warped because

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<v Speaker 2>of like some comments and like, it's insane what it

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<v Speaker 2>does to people.

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<v Speaker 1>And you feel that. No, I don't feel like I

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<v Speaker 1>need that, but I feel compelled to like solid wife

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<v Speaker 1>Kate's tweets. Yes, sure, I feel I feel compelled to.

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<v Speaker 1>As for me personally, I could take it or leave it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really need it. Do you have do you

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<v Speaker 1>have Instagram? I don't even know if you have a

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<v Speaker 1>personal Instagram. I have personal Instagram. I don't use it

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<v Speaker 1>because my pictures are terrible. I take terrible photos. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not good. I also can't see color. I can't. Yeah, No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just it's it's a bad medium for me personally

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<v Speaker 1>to promote my brand. Right. I enjoy other content on

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram very much, but I'm looking your inside. My last

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<v Speaker 1>posting was like many moons ago. This is a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>good picture. November. You got some snow. Yeah, but look

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<v Speaker 1>at the other ones. There's nothing of any real merit

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<v Speaker 1>on there. Dan, you posted a picture of goldfish we

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<v Speaker 1>were in Chicago, a pumpkin pie. Oh yeah, no, your

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<v Speaker 1>your grid is now I haven't posted and over it

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<v Speaker 1>like I have a funny picture hear of a misused

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<v Speaker 1>comma where it's said Rachel Ray finds inspiration in cooking

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<v Speaker 1>her family and her dog. I like, yeah, that is good.

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen that picture.

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<v Speaker 2>I like the stories though, because they disappear, like here's

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<v Speaker 2>a little here's a little nugget, and then you can

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<v Speaker 2>just move on with your life and the world will

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<v Speaker 2>never see it again.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonnat like a thousand follows now and everyone will

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<v Speaker 1>be sort of.

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<v Speaker 2>Follow Ty hilden Brant t U Y H I, L

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<v Speaker 2>D E N B R and Y two got it first,

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<v Speaker 2>You locked it up. You locked up the Tay hilden

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<v Speaker 2>Brant name.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I just to circle back. I yeah, I do

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<v Speaker 1>feel compelled to like it is weird, solid wife ks content.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah I do.

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<v Speaker 2>It's when when people in real life say things like,

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<v Speaker 2>huh did you uh see the picture?

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<v Speaker 1>I pose it. Yeah, I'll tell you my problem on Facebook.

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<v Speaker 1>My problem on Facebook is I've hidden most of the

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<v Speaker 1>people I am friends with. It's the move. I've hidden

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<v Speaker 1>most of the people, and it's really come back to

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<v Speaker 1>bite me in the butt because I've had friends who

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<v Speaker 1>have literally had kids, other big time life events have

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<v Speaker 1>occurred to them, and I've totally been in the dark.

1:11:06.600 --> 1:11:09.800
<v Speaker 1>I can see that, and that's fine. It's your life

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<v Speaker 1>kept on going, didn't it. Anyway? Moving on final question,

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<v Speaker 1>I really hope this isn't real. Okay, Oh yeah, yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Suspect it might be. I would say there's a sixty

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<v Speaker 2>one percent chance it's real. That's the number I'm putting it. Okay, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>This came to us, I believe on Reddit my girlfriend

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<v Speaker 2>of about four and a half years now and one

1:11:29.720 --> 1:11:32.880
<v Speaker 2>of my best friends since elementary school. So those are

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<v Speaker 2>two different people drunkenly made out at a pool party

1:11:37.000 --> 1:11:42.799
<v Speaker 2>around two years ago, who I just found out because

1:11:42.840 --> 1:11:46.920
<v Speaker 2>she says it means nothing to them and they didn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to hurt me. Oh boy, I'm really not sure

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<v Speaker 2>how to react. I'm kind of in shock. Any thoughts, advice?

1:11:53.479 --> 1:11:54.840
<v Speaker 2>It might be it might be a made up thing

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<v Speaker 2>just to get us talking.

1:11:56.000 --> 1:11:59.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, okay, but there's a chance it isn't.

1:11:59.320 --> 1:12:01.439
<v Speaker 1>There's a chance we've got overballer out there in neat

1:12:01.560 --> 1:12:04.400
<v Speaker 1>and pain correct. I was thinking about this question for

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<v Speaker 1>the moment it dropped on the Reddit feed. The part

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<v Speaker 1>that jumps out at me that I take issue the

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<v Speaker 1>most issue with is just finding out because it meant

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<v Speaker 1>nothing and they didn't want to hurt you. If they

1:12:17.680 --> 1:12:20.200
<v Speaker 1>didn't want to hurt you, they wouldn't have done it

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<v Speaker 1>in the first place. So that part I have a

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<v Speaker 1>real beef with that statement there that I think above

1:12:26.760 --> 1:12:28.559
<v Speaker 1>all else is what would stick in my craw the most.

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<v Speaker 1>Presumably this happens two and a half years into a relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>Two and a half years. Yeah, that's a long time, right,

1:12:36.240 --> 1:12:38.000
<v Speaker 1>It seems like that's a long time in.

1:12:38.439 --> 1:12:41.920
<v Speaker 2>And I'd say it's different, but not necessarily too different.

1:12:42.080 --> 1:12:44.400
<v Speaker 2>If this is a twenty one year old doing this

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<v Speaker 2>versus a thirty one year old doing this, hard to no,

1:12:46.960 --> 1:12:49.800
<v Speaker 2>are we don't have age background, no nothing. Twenty one

1:12:49.880 --> 1:12:52.240
<v Speaker 2>year old much more likely to do something immature and

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<v Speaker 2>hurtful than a thirty one year old in my experience.

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<v Speaker 2>The fact that you drunkenly do this. And I've had

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<v Speaker 2>friends who have cheated been cheated on, and they work

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<v Speaker 2>it out and they get married and they're presumably happy,

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<v Speaker 2>but you never really know, So it's a different situation.

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<v Speaker 2>For however anybody wants to feel, that's fine, But I

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<v Speaker 2>can only speak for myself. It seems like it'd be

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<v Speaker 2>hard to trust this person, yes, keeping something, because it's

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<v Speaker 2>not just keeping something from you for two years, it's

1:13:22.920 --> 1:13:24.959
<v Speaker 2>lying to you for two years. It's lying by omission.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're lying for two years. And it's not like

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<v Speaker 2>they just said, yep, I was at this random party

1:13:30.640 --> 1:13:32.160
<v Speaker 2>and made out with this random dude.

1:13:32.800 --> 1:13:36.080
<v Speaker 1>It's like Jody with and eye saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a couple of years ago made out with camera

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<v Speaker 2>guy Dave. What sorry meant to tell you? Of all

1:13:44.360 --> 1:13:47.360
<v Speaker 2>the people, Yeah, it'd be tough for me, and you

1:13:47.400 --> 1:13:50.960
<v Speaker 2>have to evaluate it for yourself. But trust is a

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<v Speaker 2>super difficult thing to restore, and I find I would

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<v Speaker 2>be in a place where I would be looking for

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<v Speaker 2>somebody that potentially wouldn't lie to me for two years

1:14:03.920 --> 1:14:05.200
<v Speaker 2>about making out with a friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I mean, I'm not going to tell this gentleman

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<v Speaker 1>what to do because we don't have the full context here.

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<v Speaker 2>Because if you're if you're a loyal person, I know,

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<v Speaker 2>if fidelity is something that's important to you, you should

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<v Speaker 2>be with somebody. This is me saying speaking for myself

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<v Speaker 2>that feels the same way.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with all of that. I just would feel

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<v Speaker 1>very guilty about trying to give advice here without the

1:14:30.280 --> 1:14:33.760
<v Speaker 1>full context because exactly right, life is very complicated and

1:14:33.800 --> 1:14:35.760
<v Speaker 1>painted in shades of gray, not black and white. So

1:14:35.840 --> 1:14:38.400
<v Speaker 1>and if this, if this person is crazy important to

1:14:38.400 --> 1:14:40.839
<v Speaker 1>you and you want to work it out, attempt to

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<v Speaker 1>speak to a professional together and try to get to

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<v Speaker 1>the root and try to build a new foundation, that

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<v Speaker 1>would be a direction. My only point here, and I

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<v Speaker 1>will stick with this, is the line about it meant

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<v Speaker 1>nothing to them and or they didn't want to hurt

1:14:59.160 --> 1:15:02.880
<v Speaker 1>me is bull. That's bull. Oh this is also just immaturity. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>total bull. If they didn't want to hurt you, they

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have done it in the first place. It wouldn't

1:15:06.120 --> 1:15:07.880
<v Speaker 1>have lied to you for two years. So that line,

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<v Speaker 1>if that is in fact the excuse, is not a

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<v Speaker 1>valid excuse in my book.

1:15:11.760 --> 1:15:13.800
<v Speaker 2>If it came out that you made out with not

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily one of Kate's friends. But early, early on, you're like, oh,

1:15:18.600 --> 1:15:22.080
<v Speaker 2>yeap slipped up at the Christmas party and you've been

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<v Speaker 2>holding it back.

1:15:24.000 --> 1:15:26.400
<v Speaker 1>I think you'd be out right, I think I'd probably

1:15:26.439 --> 1:15:26.680
<v Speaker 1>be out.

1:15:26.760 --> 1:15:29.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I definitely would be I hope i'd be out.

1:15:29.720 --> 1:15:33.519
<v Speaker 2>I definitely would be out. So all right, I'm just

1:15:33.600 --> 1:15:36.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm too lazy to do that. I love my wife

1:15:36.240 --> 1:15:40.479
<v Speaker 2>too much. Yeah, all right, that's our show, except for

1:15:40.520 --> 1:15:45.240
<v Speaker 2>one last thing. I guess, yes, So, I guess if

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<v Speaker 2>you follow me on Instagram, which God blessed, thank you,

1:15:48.360 --> 1:15:49.360
<v Speaker 2>thanks for the follow.

1:15:49.240 --> 1:15:51.519
<v Speaker 1>Much better pictures than mine, by the way. Yeah, I

1:15:51.600 --> 1:15:54.280
<v Speaker 1>just do the story thing so it disappears. Dan Rubinstein,

1:15:54.400 --> 1:15:57.479
<v Speaker 1>just one word, I guess I got some news. How

1:15:57.479 --> 1:16:07.880
<v Speaker 1>you want to throw me a drum roll? Body?

1:16:11.920 --> 1:16:16.680
<v Speaker 2>That is the sound of my son crying, because we

1:16:16.760 --> 1:16:22.479
<v Speaker 2>have a solid baby through. When we started this show,

1:16:22.880 --> 1:16:25.519
<v Speaker 2>we were not with our wives. No, there was no

1:16:25.600 --> 1:16:29.880
<v Speaker 2>home ownership, there was no wedding planning, there was no wedding,

1:16:29.960 --> 1:16:32.599
<v Speaker 2>there was no honeymoon, there was no buying of a home,

1:16:32.960 --> 1:16:35.639
<v Speaker 2>and there were certainly no children. And so if you've

1:16:35.640 --> 1:16:37.639
<v Speaker 2>been listening to the show for a long time, we've

1:16:37.640 --> 1:16:42.360
<v Speaker 2>all come to a very far and definitely better place together.

1:16:43.000 --> 1:16:47.200
<v Speaker 2>And so now this would be two weeks ago, my

1:16:47.600 --> 1:16:50.479
<v Speaker 2>beautiful wife Jody with and I gave birth to a

1:16:50.720 --> 1:16:54.439
<v Speaker 2>very healthy son, seven pounds eleven ounces, and there is

1:16:54.520 --> 1:16:57.640
<v Speaker 2>now an extra member of the solidverbal crew. And you

1:16:57.720 --> 1:17:00.599
<v Speaker 2>can point to this day as when we jump the shark.

1:17:02.520 --> 1:17:05.080
<v Speaker 2>This is the day. Like, yeah, once Dan had his kid,

1:17:05.080 --> 1:17:07.160
<v Speaker 2>it just wasn't the same. I don't know, I'm gonna

1:17:07.160 --> 1:17:10.800
<v Speaker 2>listen to Bill Connolly and Steven or something, but yes,

1:17:11.040 --> 1:17:11.760
<v Speaker 2>I have a son.

1:17:12.240 --> 1:17:16.360
<v Speaker 1>He's healthy, he's amazing. It's been a great two weeks.

1:17:16.600 --> 1:17:20.880
<v Speaker 2>We had his two week doctor's appointment today and ninety

1:17:20.880 --> 1:17:25.040
<v Speaker 2>eighth percentile height, whoa around thirty to forty percentile weight,

1:17:26.400 --> 1:17:31.360
<v Speaker 2>but strong legs. Scouting report is very positive, elite pooper.

1:17:32.160 --> 1:17:35.000
<v Speaker 2>I am over the moon, completely in love and yeah,

1:17:35.000 --> 1:17:35.840
<v Speaker 2>we have a solid baby.

1:17:35.880 --> 1:17:40.760
<v Speaker 1>It's pretty incredible. Wow. Yeah, that's very exciting. Dan congratulating.

1:17:40.760 --> 1:17:42.920
<v Speaker 1>I am I am the first person to have a kid.

1:17:43.600 --> 1:17:46.360
<v Speaker 1>You are. I'll treat it as such. I am the

1:17:46.360 --> 1:17:51.840
<v Speaker 1>first father. This is College Football Podcasting's Truman Show. Is

1:17:51.840 --> 1:17:53.120
<v Speaker 1>what this is? This is it?

1:17:54.439 --> 1:17:57.360
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, we've actually gotten questions before, like when you

1:17:57.360 --> 1:17:59.000
<v Speaker 2>guys have kids, so you guys can talk about what

1:17:59.040 --> 1:18:02.360
<v Speaker 2>it's like to wach college football and juggle fatherhood or

1:18:02.400 --> 1:18:03.040
<v Speaker 2>something like that.

1:18:03.760 --> 1:18:06.920
<v Speaker 1>At least on my end, I've I've heard reports that

1:18:07.000 --> 1:18:09.200
<v Speaker 1>Tie is very virile. That's right.

1:18:09.840 --> 1:18:12.080
<v Speaker 2>So now I have a number of questions here, right,

1:18:13.120 --> 1:18:15.000
<v Speaker 2>and I will say I'm going to answer all of

1:18:15.000 --> 1:18:17.840
<v Speaker 2>those questions. And we've talked about you know, we get

1:18:18.800 --> 1:18:21.080
<v Speaker 2>engaged and we talk about wedding planning and stuff like that,

1:18:21.120 --> 1:18:23.040
<v Speaker 2>and we check in blah blah blah. I was just

1:18:23.280 --> 1:18:25.400
<v Speaker 2>very I wanted everything to go right. We were very

1:18:25.400 --> 1:18:29.120
<v Speaker 2>fortunate that it did. Everything was very healthy along the way.

1:18:29.280 --> 1:18:32.519
<v Speaker 2>I definitely understand that we are incredibly fortunate for that

1:18:32.600 --> 1:18:35.120
<v Speaker 2>to be the case. And certainly thoughts are out to

1:18:35.160 --> 1:18:37.600
<v Speaker 2>everybody you know going through their own stuff and you know,

1:18:37.800 --> 1:18:41.120
<v Speaker 2>always thinking of you. But just wanted to keep it

1:18:41.160 --> 1:18:43.000
<v Speaker 2>low key to make sure everything went all right.

1:18:43.720 --> 1:18:48.400
<v Speaker 1>Well it did, and congratulations, have you acquired your dad's

1:18:48.400 --> 1:18:49.360
<v Speaker 1>strength yet? Dan?

1:18:49.920 --> 1:18:52.120
<v Speaker 2>You know what, I actually was going to the gym Moore,

1:18:52.720 --> 1:18:55.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, I know that's sort of endorphin and in

1:18:55.800 --> 1:18:57.880
<v Speaker 2>the spur of the moment lift a car thing. Sure,

1:18:57.960 --> 1:19:01.679
<v Speaker 2>but I've definitely been squatting more. I've definitely been hammering

1:19:01.680 --> 1:19:05.000
<v Speaker 2>the delts and the tries for sure. So yes, how

1:19:05.040 --> 1:19:07.160
<v Speaker 2>many it's on the uptick? How many times have you

1:19:07.200 --> 1:19:12.000
<v Speaker 2>been peed on? So he is about to be two

1:19:12.040 --> 1:19:17.479
<v Speaker 2>weeks old, four and a half, five times? Listen it listens.

1:19:19.360 --> 1:19:22.160
<v Speaker 2>I know people have recommendations. There are tents that you

1:19:22.160 --> 1:19:24.760
<v Speaker 2>can put over and you cover with a diaper or

1:19:24.800 --> 1:19:25.240
<v Speaker 2>something like.

1:19:25.160 --> 1:19:26.000
<v Speaker 1>That medical tent.

1:19:26.120 --> 1:19:30.040
<v Speaker 2>Sure, it doesn't medical tent. It doesn't matter how quick

1:19:30.080 --> 1:19:32.400
<v Speaker 2>you are or if you think your timing is right.

1:19:32.439 --> 1:19:34.280
<v Speaker 2>You're quick and he doesn't pee and then you're like,

1:19:34.320 --> 1:19:37.360
<v Speaker 2>I think we're safe. Now remove the diaper, and then

1:19:37.520 --> 1:19:40.200
<v Speaker 2>the fire hose begins. So this is not going to

1:19:40.320 --> 1:19:41.360
<v Speaker 2>be ending anytime soon.

1:19:41.680 --> 1:19:45.639
<v Speaker 1>Will you be doing a dedication podcast like a cat

1:19:45.720 --> 1:19:49.960
<v Speaker 1>Steven's Father and Son? Oh, where you're going to put

1:19:49.960 --> 1:19:52.479
<v Speaker 1>this one in the vault so that the young and

1:19:52.560 --> 1:19:54.040
<v Speaker 1>can listen when he turns of age.

1:19:54.880 --> 1:19:57.120
<v Speaker 2>That's a good question. I have a couple of friends

1:19:57.200 --> 1:20:01.280
<v Speaker 2>actually who write letters to their kids some month just

1:20:01.400 --> 1:20:04.760
<v Speaker 2>check in just to a vault, a little time thing.

1:20:06.200 --> 1:20:08.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't have any audio plans at the moment, but

1:20:08.400 --> 1:20:12.080
<v Speaker 2>that could change. Okay, what's time capsule.

1:20:12.080 --> 1:20:12.680
<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm looking for.

1:20:13.479 --> 1:20:16.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right, Jody with an eye. Absolute champ. Not going

1:20:16.680 --> 1:20:21.320
<v Speaker 2>into details about the labor, no, but she is. She

1:20:21.400 --> 1:20:24.240
<v Speaker 2>did such a phenomenal job, total champ.

1:20:24.439 --> 1:20:27.599
<v Speaker 1>So for those of you wondering, yeah, why weren't we

1:20:27.680 --> 1:20:30.120
<v Speaker 1>in San Francisco for the championship? Why didn't we have

1:20:30.479 --> 1:20:34.400
<v Speaker 1>a live show this January? Now, maybe you got some

1:20:34.479 --> 1:20:36.360
<v Speaker 1>critical details to that question.

1:20:36.880 --> 1:20:39.840
<v Speaker 2>Yes, so she was due like a week after the

1:20:39.920 --> 1:20:42.160
<v Speaker 2>National Championship game. Was like, you know what, I'm just

1:20:42.160 --> 1:20:44.400
<v Speaker 2>gonna stay in New York and not miss anything important.

1:20:45.160 --> 1:20:48.320
<v Speaker 1>How about that? All right? Well, any other questions? I

1:20:48.360 --> 1:20:51.080
<v Speaker 1>have a number of questions, but worried about the ninety

1:20:51.120 --> 1:20:53.360
<v Speaker 1>minute mark here. All right, we'll spread it to another

1:20:53.520 --> 1:20:55.679
<v Speaker 1>Q and A show, and I would like to field

1:20:56.479 --> 1:20:59.000
<v Speaker 1>I would like to field questions from the verballerhood. Now

1:20:59.000 --> 1:20:59.960
<v Speaker 1>that we are about this.

1:21:00.160 --> 1:21:03.360
<v Speaker 2>I have I'm I'm extremely excited to talk about fatherhood

1:21:03.400 --> 1:21:05.639
<v Speaker 2>after we talk about college football and shows.

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<v Speaker 1>I have many many questions on this matter. Great, and

1:21:09.360 --> 1:21:12.439
<v Speaker 1>I am excited to blitz you with them at the

1:21:12.479 --> 1:21:16.200
<v Speaker 1>most inopportune moments, the way you do me with everything else.

1:21:16.840 --> 1:21:17.400
<v Speaker 1>That's great.

1:21:17.920 --> 1:21:23.080
<v Speaker 2>I am excited, and I imagine a very healthy percentage

1:21:23.200 --> 1:21:26.880
<v Speaker 2>of our listeners have children, or at least a child,

1:21:27.200 --> 1:21:30.760
<v Speaker 2>and to them, I say, I am much dumber than

1:21:30.800 --> 1:21:34.439
<v Speaker 2>all of you. So I am very excited for anybody

1:21:34.479 --> 1:21:37.360
<v Speaker 2>to write in with any questions and or if you

1:21:37.400 --> 1:21:41.280
<v Speaker 2>have feedback, as it appears most parents do, if you

1:21:41.360 --> 1:21:42.679
<v Speaker 2>got tips, I'm ready.

1:21:42.720 --> 1:21:45.240
<v Speaker 1>We're going to be talking about the conception. I want

1:21:45.280 --> 1:21:48.519
<v Speaker 1>play by play. We're going to be absolutely about teething, yep,

1:21:49.680 --> 1:21:52.040
<v Speaker 1>potty train, all of this stuff. I'm right on the

1:21:52.040 --> 1:21:52.800
<v Speaker 1>hook for this. Now.

1:21:52.920 --> 1:21:56.240
<v Speaker 2>This is when our show got especially terrible yep, and

1:21:56.280 --> 1:21:58.920
<v Speaker 2>it jumped the shark once the solid baby shut up.

1:21:58.920 --> 1:22:01.520
<v Speaker 1>Now he's great. He is. He is fantastic.

1:22:01.560 --> 1:22:06.080
<v Speaker 2>He's fun and according to all of his grandparents, exceptional

1:22:06.200 --> 1:22:08.200
<v Speaker 2>and very smart for his age.

1:22:08.680 --> 1:22:11.360
<v Speaker 1>Terrific. Dan, Yes, I also did ask you when we

1:22:11.400 --> 1:22:13.679
<v Speaker 1>can close out with this. It was the most Darren

1:22:13.760 --> 1:22:15.760
<v Speaker 1>ravel thing I've ever said in my life. If you

1:22:15.800 --> 1:22:18.960
<v Speaker 1>had given any thought to the branding of the child,

1:22:19.080 --> 1:22:22.439
<v Speaker 1>like how you would present your new son here on though.

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<v Speaker 2>He has a first name in a middle name, yeah,

1:22:24.760 --> 1:22:28.120
<v Speaker 2>that's about his deep The branding is actually before he

1:22:28.240 --> 1:22:31.000
<v Speaker 2>was born. My mother in law who's a huge sports

1:22:31.000 --> 1:22:37.120
<v Speaker 2>fan and extraordinarily thoughtful, made up a custom with our logo,

1:22:37.400 --> 1:22:39.880
<v Speaker 2>fonts and colors and everything, and I'll post a picture

1:22:39.880 --> 1:22:40.439
<v Speaker 2>of it once.

1:22:40.320 --> 1:22:44.680
<v Speaker 1>He wears it. The Solid Baby onesie with a Rubinstein

1:22:44.760 --> 1:22:45.759
<v Speaker 1>on the back. Nice.

1:22:45.880 --> 1:22:50.960
<v Speaker 2>So the Solid Verbal and my wee son are going

1:22:51.000 --> 1:22:53.479
<v Speaker 2>to be one and the same very soon the branding

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<v Speaker 2>is complete, the Solid correct, the Solid Baby. All right, well,

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<v Speaker 2>please join me out there in wishing my wonderful co

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<v Speaker 2>host the most heartfelt congratulations here on this life event,

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<v Speaker 2>the birth of your child. Very excited for you, man,

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<v Speaker 2>that's great.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you very much. I am very tired. All right, well,

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<v Speaker 1>go get some sleep. Yes to all of you out

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