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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Solid Verbal. I'm that for me.

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Speaker 2: I'm a man, I'm for I've heard so many players say, well,

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Speaker 2: I want to be happy.

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Speaker 1: You want to be happy for day Ado State? Is

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Speaker 1: that woo whoom? And Dan and Tye welcome back to

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Speaker 1: the Solid Verbal, Boys and girls, my name is ty

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Speaker 1: Hildebrand joining me as always over there in New York City.

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Speaker 1: My man, the one and only Dan Rubinstein. Sir, how

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Speaker 1: are you Ty? When was the last time you did drugs?

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Speaker 2: I ask because after this show, people are going to

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Speaker 2: want to test you, because you are going to perform

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Speaker 2: at such a high level.

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Speaker 1: They're going to say, what is up with Ty hildenbr

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Speaker 1: I feel shot out of a cannon tonight? Dan? Is

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Speaker 1: that true? I do. We've got a lot to get through.

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Speaker 2: Before we get through it, Can I turn off the

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Speaker 2: heater that my wife left?

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Speaker 1: M all right? You comfortable? We need to have your

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Speaker 1: rhythm because we've got a lot to get through. Tonight

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Speaker 1: it was National Signing Day. Yes, today we will certainly

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Speaker 1: make reference to what transpired on signing Day. This is

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Speaker 1: not a signing day show, though, typically what we find

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Speaker 1: and we've been doing the show for god, I lost

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Speaker 1: count how many years. Well, what we do is we

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Speaker 1: bring in Brandon or somebody and we talk about the

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Speaker 1: news of the day, and inevitably there's always a handful

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Speaker 1: of kids who delay their commitment, and the news is

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Speaker 1: never really current because there is more of the story

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Speaker 1: left to tell. We're going to put off that show

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Speaker 1: a week or two, talk about it in a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Let's do it next week. We'll do it next week.

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Speaker 2: We will take that well, that long view. We'll focus

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Speaker 2: on National Signing Day. We will give you a thirty

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Speaker 2: thousand foot view. We'll bring in a knowledgeable guest to

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Speaker 2: focus just primarily on that. But we've also got some

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Speaker 2: other news that we want to talk about.

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Speaker 1: And we've got just a bunch of questions that have

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Speaker 1: need to work out between each other. Like, let's just

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Speaker 1: make this an organic show. We can answer questions, talk

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Speaker 1: about college football, a casual dress Wednesday here on the verbal. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we have a lot of questions.

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Speaker 2: We've got a fun little news, personal news, personal news

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Speaker 2: story that we can touch on probably tail end of

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Speaker 1: And then just.

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Speaker 2: Just have fun with each other. Tie, because that's what

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Speaker 2: this show is all about it's just relationships. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: I've I've been listening to a lot of Fat Joe

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Speaker 2: for reasons I'll explain later perhaps, but it's it's.

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Speaker 1: About us, It's about Trust's what's love. That's what it is.

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Speaker 2: So before we get there, quickly, some news news including

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Speaker 2: signing down.

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Speaker 1: We got it. We got to play in the sound.

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Speaker 1: If it's news, Dan, I don't know how breaking it is,

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Speaker 1: but it's bricking news. Uh.

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Speaker 2: USC has an offensive coordinator. Yeah, that's something we go

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Speaker 2: Uh this because we're recording once a week.

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Speaker 1: This is old news. This is old news. This is

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Speaker 2: Graham Harrell, who has been at North Texas helping to

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Speaker 2: least has an offensive coordinator. We really don't know the

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Speaker 2: next year, both player wise, coaching wise, whatever. Lot can

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Speaker 1: the news about the big acquisition in the podcasting arena

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Speaker 1: Spotify and Gimblet and Anchor. Yeah, I think that's local

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Speaker 1: to me. Gimblet's in Brooklyn, right, for sure, a lot

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Speaker 1: That's right, It'll be a one episode mini series on

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Speaker 2: We could afford a premium lunch between us Dan's favorite

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Speaker 2: so there's a little movement on the offensive coordinator front.

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Speaker 2: And I think signing Day obviously has taken the biggest

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Speaker 1: So we can talk about all that and more anything

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Speaker 2: I mean, Greg Ciano is gonna be the defensive coordinator

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Speaker 2: and that left greg Ciano looking for a job, and

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Speaker 2: sort of watched the Super Bowl. Well what a drive chart?

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Speaker 1: the Twitter. Yeah, and look at the drive chart. That

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Speaker 1: would have been an epic drive chart on this show.

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Speaker 1: Not just one team, really the entire game. If you

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Speaker 1: went into that game looking for a pyrotechnic offensive display,

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Speaker 1: what you got was really low rung SEC defensive football.

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Speaker 1: Yeah it was. I mean not even Alabama LSU back

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna sit here and say I don't enjoy

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Speaker 2: all things Wade Phillips. I don't know if you saw

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Speaker 2: his cowboy hat. I can appreciate all things. Son of bum.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna stand taller than that, but it was

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Speaker 1: a rough watch at times. I'm not an NFL guy

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Speaker 2: I probably watched two or three NFL games this year,

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Speaker 2: so that was one of them and didn't really do

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Speaker 2: there are plenty of NFL podcasts for you listener.

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Speaker 1: Listen to the Bill Barnwells Show. Good. Okay, we should

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Speaker 1: mention did you see the brill stuff? Yeah? Yeah, So

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Speaker 1: so Our Brills supposedly had a conversation with Jay Hobson,

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Speaker 1: the Southern misshead coach, about becoming their next offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 1: And he had that conversation without the school's administration knowing.

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Speaker 1: And if you're going to have an Our Brills conversation,

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Speaker 1: you're you live in the corporate world somewhat ty. What

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Speaker 1: what would be the loop them in? Yeah? Can we can?

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Speaker 1: We can we set up a conference call here? Loop

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Speaker 2: Should we circle back? We touch base? Can we can

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Speaker 2: we have a chat? Quick buzz? There was none of that,

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Speaker 1: Would you say, Pangaea going to throw out ten cent

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Speaker 1: There is no parody. There is no parody whatsoever.

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Speaker 2: So what I would say as it relates to college

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Speaker 1: Nick Saban is a big part of the reason for

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Speaker 2: All right, let's go to but BA bah bah Bah.

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Speaker 1: Foop against Yeah one.

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Speaker 2: Most USC fans slash alumni right now are just demoralized

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Speaker 2: So in looking at USC, there's a few things to consider.

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Speaker 2: How many teams in their division forget the conference because

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Speaker 1: Are on solid grounds, have the infrastructure to win nine games.

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Speaker 2: and the Herm Edwards, who are interesting this year but

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Speaker 2: not super consistent. Very good at home, terrible away from Tempe.

433
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Speaker 2: Ucla was a nightmare last year. We presume good things,

434
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Speaker 2: but we really have no way of, you know, looking

435
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Speaker 2: at twenty nineteen and saying, oh, they're making a huge

436
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Speaker 2: move this year. I like the quarterback, but Arizona, we'll see.

437
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Speaker 2: They have the potential to have a dynamic quarterback, but

438
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Speaker 2: I don't think they're on the most solid of ground

439
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Speaker 2: with how they began twenty eighteen. Colorado has a new coach,

440
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Speaker 2: So the hope is nobody's in a demonstrably better play Utah.

441
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Speaker 1: And gonna other than Utah. Their quarterback's gonna get hurt

442
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 1: three quarters away through a year, and they're gonna win

443
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Speaker 1: nine games and no one's going to see it coming.

444
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Speaker 1: That's Utah season.

445
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Speaker 2: So there's something about that where if USC is just

446
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Speaker 2: if they're frisky, and I have the schedule in front

447
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Speaker 2: of me as well, but the North is certainly more

448
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 2: difficult Washington State. The Huskies obviously as well, are tough.

449
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 2: Oregon has really reinforced with a lot of talent, especially

450
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Speaker 2: in this year's class. Stanford's always going to be tough.

451
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 2: Cal's got a great defense, Oregon State's garbage, but usc

452
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Speaker 2: with talent on both sides of the ball. They've got

453
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Speaker 2: a lot of really good young linebackers. They've recruited the

454
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Speaker 2: secondary very well. I know that they started a safety,

455
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Speaker 2: a true freshman safety last year. I think it's Talanoa Hufunga,

456
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Speaker 2: who was a big hitter. Their schedule is they don't

457
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Speaker 2: play what we can consider to be a definitely winnable

458
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Speaker 2: game until mid October, but there's not definite losses outside

459
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Speaker 2: of the at Washington at Notre Dame. I think there's

460
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Speaker 2: a bye week between them as well, though, So it's

461
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Speaker 2: Fresno Stanford, they go to BYU with a promising young

462
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Speaker 2: quarterback that is secretly very good in Zach Wilson. Utah

463
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Speaker 2: at home at least, and then after the Washington Notre

464
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Speaker 2: Dame thing, it's Arizona, Colorado at Colorado, Oregon at home

465
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Speaker 2: at ASU at Cal Ucla. They're more talented than everybody

466
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Speaker 2: on this schedule than Washington, other than perhaps Washington and

467
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Speaker 2: Notre Dame. Yeah, so in terms of they could feel

468
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Speaker 2: a good defense, there's defensive continuity with Clancy Pendergast and

469
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Speaker 2: a lot of talent there on offense. I don't even

470
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Speaker 2: know if JT. Daniels was the best quarterback on their

471
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Speaker 2: roster last year. I really like Jack Sears against ASU.

472
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Speaker 2: But presumably everybody's taking a step forward and there's somewhat

473
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Speaker 2: of a fresh schematic start, even if the Clay Helton

474
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Speaker 2: era feels doomed already.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's fair. I think that's so. Could they go

476
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Speaker 1: nine to three and win a bowl? Sure? I don't

477
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Speaker 1: think it's unrealistic. Sure they have challenges though, for sure

478
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Speaker 1: they have challenges. Since we talked about j that's the

479
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Speaker 1: glass half full. Yeah, that's the glass half full. Thank you? Yeah,

480
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Speaker 1: one swell foop, yep, don't give up. I want a

481
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Speaker 1: dovetail from JT. Dani As though into another question that

482
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Speaker 1: we got here from Edward. Okay, Edward a bit of

483
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 1: a self serving question because it pertains to Notre Dame.

484
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Speaker 1: But I'm right. It talks about five star quarterbacks, and

485
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Speaker 1: he says, why is Notre Dame had so much trouble

486
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Speaker 1: recruiting and developing a true five star quarterback under Brian Kelly.

487
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Speaker 2: So I did a lot of research on this question.

488
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Speaker 2: This is such a good This is like the greatest

489
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Speaker 2: Notre Dame question. Who they just went twelve and zero

490
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Speaker 2: and went to the playoffs?

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Speaker 1: Exactly? Why can't they? Exactly? But he can't they pull

492
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Speaker 1: a Trevor Lawrence. He's touching a little bit of a

493
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Speaker 1: nerve here. So I did want to address it first

494
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Speaker 1: and foremost. We can't answer the question before we define

495
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Speaker 1: on our own what quote a true five star quarterback

496
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Speaker 1: really means.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think he literally means like a five

498
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:55,159
Speaker 2: star twenty four to seven, like premium premium recruit turned

499
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Speaker 2: that in like what Jimmy Clausen was right, like the

500
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Speaker 2: no brainer Trevor Lawrence type who can come in And

501
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,360
Speaker 2: then obviously that's it's front and center because Notre Dame

502
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:06,360
Speaker 2: just got worked over.

503
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Speaker 1: By that's right, that's right. So we are in agreement

504
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,880
Speaker 1: on what that means. So I went back on twenty

505
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 1: four to seven and I looked at all ten recruiting

506
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Speaker 1: classes since Brian Kelly today his first class at Notre

507
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 1: Dame was a twenty ten class. I didn't just look

508
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 1: at his I looked nationally to see what was going on.

509
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Speaker 1: There have been a total of twenty one five star

510
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in that time period, about two to three every year.

511
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Speaker 1: Of those twenty one kids, ten of them almost fifty

512
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Speaker 1: percent went to SEC schools. Four of them went to

513
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Speaker 1: the PAC twelve USC twice, I want to say UCLA

514
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:48,199
Speaker 1: and Stanford, three went to the ACC, two went to

515
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Speaker 1: the Big Ten, one to the Big twelve. This year

516
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 1: Spencer Rattler, and one did go to Notre Dame. So

517
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Speaker 1: my first take who went to Notre Dame? Gunner keel

518
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:02,160
Speaker 1: ill remember the Gunner Killer loved it. My first takeaway

519
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,400
Speaker 1: is that true five star quarterbacks don't grow on trees. Yeah,

520
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,919
Speaker 1: there's how many a year, generally two to three, two

521
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 1: to three. Yeah, So if you get one out of

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Speaker 1: twenty one, I get it, that's like less than five percent.

523
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Speaker 1: But relative to the rest of college football, that ain't bad.

524
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Speaker 1: Aren't a lot of programs getting five star kids, a

525
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: lot quite frankly of zero. So that's the first point.

526
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Speaker 1: The second point, and I'd say, forget about Spencer Rattler,

527
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 1: forget about bow Knicks who's going to Auburn. They're from

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Speaker 1: this year's class. If you look at the other nineteen

529
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Speaker 1: names on the list, there are at least five of

530
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Speaker 1: them that we need to see more from. All Right,

531
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Speaker 1: we need to see if Justin Fields can develop, if

532
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Speaker 1: he can be a true five star, if he can

533
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Speaker 1: showcase that on the field. We don't know. Same deal

534
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Speaker 1: with kids like Hunter Johnson and Davis Mills. Shaye Patterson

535
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 1: a five star kid, a transfer from Ole Miss. He's

536
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Speaker 1: been good, I don't know if he's been I don't

537
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 1: know if he's been transcendent. Right, we need to see

538
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 1: more of him. And then he got other kids on

539
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 1: this list like Kyle Allen and Max Brown and gun

540
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 1: Or Keel who definitely did not work out. They weren't

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Speaker 1: that quarterback when they got on campus. So my second

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Speaker 1: point is that you've really got like a fifty percent

543
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Speaker 1: chance of living up that label. If you pull a

544
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Speaker 1: kid like that, it's like fifty percent. Well, so, okay,

545
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Speaker 1: I think all of what you said is correct here.

546
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Speaker 1: There are some other factors.

547
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Speaker 2: One, you have to have the five star who's going

548
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 2: to thrive at your school, who is a good mix

549
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 2: between the players on the team, and some of them

550
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 2: are ready to play right away, some of them need

551
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 2: a year or two, some of them need a red shirt.

552
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 2: Ear you need to mesh well with the offensive coaching staff,

553
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 2: just general comfort transitioning from high school to college, and

554
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 2: that's true of every player, but the spotlight is especially

555
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 2: bright and the expectations are enormous for somebody who is

556
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 2: going If you are a five star quarterback, you're going

557
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 2: to come in and people are going to say, I

558
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 2: can't wait to see him lead us to glory. That

559
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 2: is what is going to be saddled on you from

560
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 2: day one. And then you add in the Notre Dame factor.

561
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 2: The Notre Dame factor is if you take one hundred

562
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Speaker 2: five star quarterbacks, throw them anywhere in the country, in

563
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 2: southern California and Florida, wherever in Texas, and then you say,

564
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 2: how many of you want to play college in cold weather? Okay,

565
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 2: you take out thirty eight of them, right, And then

566
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Speaker 2: how many of you want to go to college with

567
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 2: a ton more of a workload than the average top

568
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 2: college football school academically?

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Speaker 1: Okay, throw out another thirty of them.

570
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Speaker 2: How many of you want to not really play in

571
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Speaker 2: a conference with traditional rivalry games. Play some of your

572
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 2: games out West, some of your games against Wake Forest

573
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 2: and NC State and Clemson whatever that. You can throw

574
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Speaker 2: out another fifteen of them. How many of you want

575
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 2: to go to a school where you have to go

576
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 2: to church, you have to go to mass Okay, throw

577
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 2: out another nine of them. And it's just it's such

578
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 2: a specific and I'm not saying any of that is bad.

579
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 2: I'm saying to get a top kid to Notre Dame

580
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 2: means you are dealing with a smaller pool of top kids.

581
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 2: Whether it's because of academics, whether it's because of religion,

582
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 2: whether it's because of location and weather, whatever. Then many

583
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 2: other schools are offering, so the pool is already going

584
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 2: to be smaller.

585
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Speaker 1: And it's quite frankly, very hard to get a five

586
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: star kid. Was my first relief, and everything you're saying

587
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: there one hundred percent plays in. The more concerning part

588
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 1: of this to me as a Notre Dame fan is

589
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: the development angle, not the recruiting angle. Recruiting is hard,

590
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: and it's even harder to get a five star kid

591
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 1: for a variety of reasons. Maybe some of those are

592
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: emphasized at Notre Dame, but The real question, to me

593
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 1: has less to do with the star ratings more to

594
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: do with development. Why is it Notre Dame turning kids

595
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 1: into like Baker Mayfield and why don't we have that

596
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 1: at Notre Dame. There's no easy answer to it, and

597
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 1: especially so because the quarterback position at Notre Dame has

598
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: been somewhat cursed over the last ten years. They've had

599
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: academic suspensions and the injuries, crowded depth charts. All of

600
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: that complicates the matter. Tommy's who now want to be

601
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: named tom That's right. A handful of different coordinators throw

602
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: that in the mix as well. None of that has helped.

603
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: I don't know if you can point to any one

604
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: thing or I will agree with Edward and then I

605
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: promise we'll move on. Is that development, certainly is an

606
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 1: open question. I've long had a bit of anxiety around

607
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: the fact that from year to year does not feel

608
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: like quarterbacks at Notre Dame get all that much better. Right,

609
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: that's a problem.

610
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 2: Well, isn't this isn't this the same thing anywhere? That's

611
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 2: just not Notre Dame, where you just need that first

612
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 2: hit and then everything sort of spirals from there. So, okay,

613
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 2: you need that first awesome quarterback. And so with Clemson,

614
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 2: maybe is it you know, Taj Boyd begets to shann

615
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 2: and begets Trevor Lawrence. I want to be the next

616
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 2: Reggie Bush, begets Joe McKnight, Michael James, begets d Anthony Thomas.

617
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 2: You know, Percy Harvin begets champions Breed championship right where

618
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 2: it's just like, I want to be the next blank.

619
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Speaker 2: And if we're talking specifically about Notre Dame quarterbacks, you're saying,

620
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 2: do I want to be the next Jimmy Clauston, Tommy Reese,

621
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Speaker 2: Dane Christ, Sean Kaiser, Ian Book, Like, these are not

622
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 2: names that are leading game day necessarily because they're all

623
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 2: good in their own way to whatever extent. But how

624
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 2: many kids are at home saying I want I need

625
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 2: to be the next Ian Book? I don't know that

626
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 2: there are many. And he's he's a playoff quarterback, but

627
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 2: it's just the system that they run in the way

628
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 2: that they play is not necessarily that. Whereas that Oklahoma

629
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 2: you have Jason Sam Bradford.

630
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Speaker 1: I don't know about who's the star that like, who's

631
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: the star? No, no, no, I agree with what you're talking.

632
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: I agree generally. I don't know if it's a system thing.

633
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: I think it might not be.

634
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 2: A system thing, but it's a star thing where you're

635
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 2: just like, Okay, this Notre Dame has a dude at

636
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 2: whatever position. I think that we've had it a different position.

637
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 2: I think that can certainly be a factor.

638
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 1: You need that first. Their offensive line, for example, has

639
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 1: definitely a major selling point for recruits. They're doing very

640
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: well along the offensive line. That can absolutely play a

641
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: factor at the quarterback position. I don't know if it's

642
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: so much a system thing. I think it's got on

643
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: some level to be a coaching thing. Because none of

644
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: these quarterbacks have gotten better from you to you's that's

645
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: a bigger issue.

646
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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, And I think where you see that recruiting

647
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Speaker 2: success where this star turns into the star recruit turns

648
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Speaker 2: into a star player, a lot of it is because

649
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Speaker 2: of a confidence in that coaching staff to develop them

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Speaker 2: into what they've been watching on TV.

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Speaker 1: Okay, here we go, Joel Will Jalen Hurts be in

652
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Speaker 1: New York City as a Heisman finalist. Good transition, Thank you,

653
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Speaker 1: Will Oklahoma be back in the playoffs? How much improvement

654
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: will Alex Grinch bring to the Oklahoma defense. So we've

655
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 1: got three Oklahoma centric questions. We talked about it. If

656
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: you miss the boat, if you've been detoxing from college football,

657
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:17,760
Speaker 1: like the rest of normal, well adjusted gentlemen and women

658
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 1: out there, don't feel bad. Jalen Hurts transferred to Oklahoma.

659
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Speaker 1: He will be their quarterback. Presumably Oklahoma brings back a

660
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Speaker 1: lot from last year, so it stands to reason they

661
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Speaker 1: have a pretty good chance at the playoff. And as

662
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 1: we illustrated on the program time and time again, the

663
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: defense was a huge problem. This is a huge problem

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Speaker 1: to the extent that they just stopped playing it and

665
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Speaker 1: hope for a couple big plays per game down the stretch.

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Speaker 1: Now they bring in Alex Grinch, formerly of Ohio State,

667
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Speaker 1: formerly of Washington State. He's a guy ghast generator. Yeah,

668
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: he a ghost generator. Thank you. He's come in. He's

669
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Speaker 1: made his mark in a hurry pretty much everywhere he's been.

670
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Speaker 1: So you can pick which one of those tentacles you

671
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Speaker 1: wish to address. Dan hurt will have every opportunity to succeed.

672
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Speaker 1: To that point.

673
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Speaker 2: Oklahoma's on a Heisman streak, which is not a thing

674
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Speaker 2: a lot of teams can say, so, he will have

675
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 2: every opportunity. What was the rub on him, who had

676
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 2: he had a very successful career at Alabama. The rub

677
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 2: on him was tentative going downfield. Yes, you know, he

678
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 2: didn't make he didn't want to make mistakes, which is

679
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 2: amazing and it's incredible. I remember it was two years

680
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 2: ago when he did start against it was I don't

681
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 2: know if it was conference teams or ranked teams or

682
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 2: teams with a winning record.

683
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Speaker 1: It was something like.

684
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Speaker 2: Twelve touchdowns to zero or one interception, something incredibly impressive.

685
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Speaker 2: But at Oklahoma that quarterback position, he is not going

686
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 2: to be able to lean on the defense for field

687
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 2: position and stops. He will be able to lean on

688
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 2: the running game with a couple of promising young running backs,

689
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Speaker 2: but he will have every opportunity. They're bringing in just

690
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 2: a ridiculous and unfair class of receivers. Now they return

691
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,800
Speaker 2: some talent there. I know they lose, you know, Hollywood

692
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:58,479
Speaker 2: Brown is gone, but he will have every opportunity to

693
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Speaker 2: do so. I think three in a row is too many.

694
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Speaker 2: I just I can't imagine that because it is difficult

695
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Speaker 2: as a grad transfer to come in. And we have

696
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 2: another question about this that a lot of times, grad

697
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Speaker 2: transfers exist because they're beaten out, and they're beaten out

698
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:20,479
Speaker 2: for a reason in most cases, a clear weakness, whether

699
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 2: it's a new coach coming in with a different system,

700
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Speaker 2: whether it's just a new quarterback coming in who's better.

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Speaker 2: But it's it's very rare that we see excellent quarterbacks

702
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:33,320
Speaker 2: transfer and thrive if they're beaten out, like Russell Wilson

703
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,359
Speaker 2: obviously did, Gardner Minshew did for scheme reasons. For an

704
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 2: Adams thrived, but he was not beaten out at Eastern Washington.

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Speaker 2: We've seen it happen, sure, but there's also that element of, oh,

706
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 2: he has a very specific weakness and they found somebody

707
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Speaker 2: who doesn't and he's gone.

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Speaker 1: Now. It's an incredible move though for Lincoln Riley, just

709
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 1: on our front for a number of reasons, but on

710
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: this front in particular, they're bringing in a true five

711
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 1: star quarterback that presumably will develop under the tutelage of

712
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 1: mister Riley. Jalen Hurts as a quarterback who obviously is

713
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Speaker 1: proven to some extent will on some high level college

714
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,760
Speaker 1: football games, got Alabama to a national championship, played half

715
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 1: of that national championship terribly. Programs don't generally work out

716
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 1: on offense when you're jumping from flame to flame or

717
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: bringing in quarterback transfers every year and you basically have

718
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 1: to reboot. Even Kyler Murray, though he was a transfer,

719
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: had a year in that system correct to learn, while

720
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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield coining his Heisman Trophy. So my point here

721
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 1: is this gives Lincoln Riley that bridge where he can

722
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Speaker 1: bring in someone with experience, maybe not experience with the program,

723
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 1: but they can build experience now with their youngin and

724
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Speaker 1: presumably hit the ground running them in twenty twenty.

725
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Speaker 2: I think he'll be fine. I think he will be

726
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 2: a top fifteen or twenty quarterback in the country, but

727
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,879
Speaker 2: it's difficult for me to see him in a way

728
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 2: that he couldn't at Alabama, where he had a lot

729
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 2: of opportunity to there as well.

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Speaker 1: You could take any quarterback in the country against their

731
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Speaker 1: chances for the Heisman Trophy, and the odds will ever

732
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: be in a favor because it is such a hard

733
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,839
Speaker 1: thing to win. There's so many variables. One other thing

734
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,359
Speaker 1: that works in Jalen Hurts' favor here is the fact

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Speaker 1: that we saw Lincoln Riley adapt his offense on the

736
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Speaker 1: fly last year as some injuries happened, as he kind

737
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: of learned his personnel and he did a masterful job

738
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Speaker 1: of that. So if he can tailor a system to

739
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,479
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts his skill set, that would seemingly bode pretty

740
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Speaker 1: well for him.

741
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And John asked a question along these lines that

742
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 2: we won't go too deep into. Why does somebody like

743
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson or Gardner Minshew succeed and others like Malik

744
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 2: Zayer and the Zayhara and Max Brown not succeed as

745
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 2: much as grad transfer quarterbacks As a coaching scheme, personalities,

746
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,240
Speaker 2: can these factors help us predict the potential for success

747
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 2: for the twenty nineteen quarterback transfers, of which we.

748
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Speaker 1: Have a lot.

749
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say sticking with grad transfer, you are

750
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 2: coming in either with one or sometimes you know, like

751
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 2: we've seen a couple of times a couple of years

752
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 2: to play and it just not work out. And I

753
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 2: think a lot of that is one you got beaten out.

754
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 2: You might be just a really good backup quarterback at

755
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 2: a top power five place and that's fine. Or two

756
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 2: you don't have much time to make an impression and

757
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 2: build a rapport and learn the offense and build confidence

758
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 2: with those around you. And sometimes it's just a bad fit.

759
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 2: Sometimes you are just you know, supposed to be playing

760
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,720
Speaker 2: at William and Mary, Bill and Mary. Sometimes you should

761
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 2: just be playing at an FCS school or a lower

762
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 2: level Power five school and a school for whatever reason,

763
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 2: maybe like Florida State this year doesn't have the bodies,

764
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 2: and there's like we need to grab somebody, and then

765
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 2: you talk yourself into like I did with what was

766
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 2: his name was? It was pre Cop, Yeah, Dakota prew Cop. Yes,

767
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 2: he had the flat footed whatever. He was fine, but

768
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 2: nothing special and they ran out like you mentioned, jumping

769
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 2: flame to flame, as Oregon was doing with grid transfer quarterbacks.

770
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 2: You need to find somebody who is who did well

771
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 2: enough at their place, like Russell Wilson did at NC

772
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 2: State and for whatever reason, disagreement over baseball, disagreement over scheme,

773
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 2: like Gardner Minshew committed to ECU because he thought he

774
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 2: would be playing for Lincoln Riley. He was an air

775
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 2: aid guy like oh no, no, not a oh okay.

776
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 2: Went to Mike Leach in Washington State, much better fit

777
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 2: and had the personality to build Obviously a huge personality.

778
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 2: Everybody wanted to play with him, and he backed it

779
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 2: up with his arm. And I just think that elixir

780
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 2: is pretty rare to find.

781
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Speaker 1: Well, it's hard unless you're quite frankly a guy with

782
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: a high profile like a Jalen Hurts because oftentimes these

783
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: are kids just looking for a place to play, and

784
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: that might define my top priority over the scheme and

785
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: the fit and all the things that I think we

786
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,919
Speaker 1: know now are more important when it comes to having

787
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: success versus otherwise. Somebody had sent us numbers way back

788
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 1: when on success. However they defined it among grad transfer quarterbacks,

789
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 1: it's actually quite low. There was a piece wed in

790
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: the Athletic I believe it was Max Olsen or Gosh

791
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: I forget who wrote something like that, but continue, Yeah,

792
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 1: I mean there are far more Maligue's a errors and

793
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,919
Speaker 1: Max Brown's and the Russell Wilson's and Gardner Minshew's out there.

794
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Speaker 1: It takes time. I think that's like the reality.

795
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 2: It's about trust, babe, it's about tous but it's also

796
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 2: you're not going to fight like Vernon Adams was a

797
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 2: case where he had success against PAC twelve, PAC ten

798
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 2: teams whatever it was back then. Pack twelve teams at

799
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 2: Eastern Washington. He had that track record, there were data points.

800
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:50,839
Speaker 2: We're like, okay, he is dominating these defenses, and in

801
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 2: other situations we don't have those data points. You need

802
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 2: the time, you need the reps. And there's just everybody

803
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,280
Speaker 2: wants their grad transfer QB to come in like a

804
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 2: Lou Williams or Eddie House. If you're talking about like NBA,

805
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 2: those guys who just come in and pop some threes

806
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 2: and go back to the bench. I don't think that

807
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,799
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808
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,040
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Speaker 1: I'm going to think why did I let Dan do that. No, Ty,

859
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: I've got your best interests in mind here. This is

860
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 1: not anything I'm doing in fairness. You did help me

861
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 1: pick out a pair of sneakers that didn't look like

862
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 1: dad's shoes, and I appreciate it's right. Paul wants to

863
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: know what is the most obscure penalty you guys have

864
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: witnessed in all your years of watching college football. Mine

865
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:27,959
Speaker 1: was an.

866
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 2: Illegal forward kick obscure penalty? Okay, so recently I have two? Okay, recently,

867
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 2: I love the double forward pass penalty and the cheese

868
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:44,879
Speaker 2: at Bowl, an unbelievable attempt, not only a double pass,

869
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 2: but throwing two forward passes on one play. It was magic.

870
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 2: And then how do you not? I mean, even though

871
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 2: the penalty itself is common, I forget if it was

872
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 2: a personal foul or a block in the back. But

873
00:45:55,239 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 2: Ron Cherry two thousand and seven, six seven somewhere there

874
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 2: it was Maryland n C State. It was I think

875
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 2: a block in the back personal foul given him. The

876
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 2: business was what it was called over the stadium loud speakers.

877
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 2: I think it was NC State getting murdered by Maryland.

878
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 2: I think that's it was an old acc matchup that

879
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 2: no longer exists. Blocking the back personal foul. He was

880
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 2: giving him the business because I think he got somebody

881
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 2: got punched or hitting the giblets. The giblets, huh yeah,

882
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 2: the old giblet punch.

883
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 1: So you know, I don't know if this is obscure

884
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 1: the way that it feels like it's obscure to me.

885
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 1: But I just have a problem with the leaping penalty.

886
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 2: Okay, why because it's an athletic move that I feel

887
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 2: like you should be able to do.

888
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: It, like someone's gonna try and kick a field goal

889
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: or an extra point. And if if you can jump

890
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 1: up on someone's back or I don't know, if you

891
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: can figure out a way to get your body in

892
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 1: front of it and knock it down, that seems like

893
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 1: that should be legal to me. I just read the

894
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick book by because I just love nerding out

895
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 1: about coaches sometimes that's how I get my football fix.

896
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: I read these giant tomes tomes tombs of college football

897
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:15,919
Speaker 1: coaching and or football coaching. And his football career ended.

898
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:20,720
Speaker 1: He was a backup center, and his coach at Wesleyan,

899
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 1: I want to say, is where he played devised the

900
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:28,840
Speaker 1: perfect not at all. Blocking strategy for kicks Basically, the

901
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 1: two defensive tackles right in front of the center were

902
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: to take out the center's legs and pin him after

903
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 1: the snap, allowing linebackers to pursue unimpeded up the hay

904
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 1: gap to block the kick. And they had Bill Belichick

905
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 1: do this as the backup center. He was like the

906
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,919
Speaker 1: guinea pig in practice. He had to do like ten

907
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:54,280
Speaker 1: times to have his legs taken out and pinned and

908
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:58,359
Speaker 1: his legs snapped, and it was never a legal move.

909
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,839
Speaker 1: It was so so ugly and bad. So it's a

910
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 1: safety thing, is what I'm trying to tell you. With

911
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,839
Speaker 1: the leaping in the centers and everything. I get it,

912
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 1: I get, but it just, you know, feels like it's

913
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 1: something you should be able to do block a kick.

914
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 2: I understand, I'm with you, And I love a good kick.

915
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 2: I love a good extra point block because it's such

916
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 2: a routine thing to have an extra point through the

917
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 2: uprights and then oh what huh what six?

918
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:26,879
Speaker 1: No?

919
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:30,919
Speaker 2: No, no, no, what that's great. Next question, somebody asked

920
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 2: us about the most disrespected by sports media teams.

921
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 1: Oh, do you have any answers?

922
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,760
Speaker 2: I mean, there's what does that actually mean, Like accomplishments

923
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 2: aren't acknowledged, I guess, or people just don't like their

924
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 2: fans online and so they like making fun of them,

925
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:46,879
Speaker 2: like Florida State and Ohio State.

926
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: Most disrespected. Michigan State obviously is the right joke has

927
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 1: to be for their disrespect. I would say very generally

928
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:04,359
Speaker 1: that teams in far off places like Washington State who

929
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 1: are consistently winning, are consistently winning inadvertently fall into this category.

930
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 1: More often than not.

931
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 2: People still disrespect the Colgate defense. That's call Schaffner threw

932
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 2: together with chicken, wire and heart.

933
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: That's my answer for FCS.

934
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's what it is. The place is

935
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:28,359
Speaker 2: that I don't think what can we do? We can

936
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:29,959
Speaker 2: only talk about it so much. We do two shows

937
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 2: a week during the season. But there are certain teams

938
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 2: where it is just harder to win. There and coaches

939
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 2: who are able to you know, Utah making the leap

940
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 2: from a Mountain West school, even though they did so

941
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 2: you know, gradually, and they built up and they started

942
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 2: dominating the Mountain West and blah blah blah.

943
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:44,439
Speaker 1: They did it right.

944
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 2: But Utah winning consistently with Kyle Whittingham I think we

945
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 2: just sort of accept and don't really appreciate, perhaps as

946
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 2: much as we should.

947
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 1: Washington State.

948
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 2: It's a good answer what Iowa State has done in

949
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 2: winning and becoming a consistent bowl team and beating some giants.

950
00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 2: I think Northwestern, you know what they've done with It's

951
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 2: more difficult to win there. For a long time. They

952
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 2: had bad facilities.

953
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:06,479
Speaker 1: I know they.

954
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 2: Recently upgraded them. I think what Virginia has done with

955
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 2: Bronco Mendenhall. I don't think they're disrespected, but it's impressive,

956
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 2: nonetheless to win at these places that just don't have

957
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 2: the resources. Not that again, Virginia has plenty. Virginia is fine.

958
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 2: So those are the teams I think that are winning

959
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 2: and going to bowls consistently, like where Purdue came from,

960
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 2: where they were with Daryl Hazel to where they are now.

961
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 1: With Jeff Brohm.

962
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 2: I don't think people are disrespecting them, but I think

963
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 2: it should be pointed out that they have steeper climbs

964
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 2: than most and are doing so anyway.

965
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: They're getting to the top for them all right, Before

966
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:47,879
Speaker 1: we get to some life questions here, First time, long

967
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,959
Speaker 1: time from mort in Columbus. He says do you find

968
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 1: the off field drama, the TV contracts, the conference realignment,

969
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:59,359
Speaker 1: recruiting flips and other oddities the off field stuff as

970
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 1: boring in tedious as I do. For me, it's mostly

971
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 1: a reminder that I'm not watching actual football. Dam what

972
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 1: are your thoughts? Right? For most people, for most teams, right,

973
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:15,879
Speaker 1: if the math checks out, you get twelve days out

974
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 1: of three sixty five. And this has just become a

975
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,839
Speaker 1: thing in sports. I mean, how much when you pay

976
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 1: attention to.

977
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 2: ESPN or Fox or SI or any of these big places,

978
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 2: how much of the NBA headlines are about, oh, shoot,

979
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 2: Chris Middleston, Chris Middleton, excuse me, twenty two to ten?

980
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,720
Speaker 2: Or how much is ooh, johannest is thinking about drafting

981
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 2: Steph Curry number one in the All Star Oh, Anthony.

982
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 1: Davis has requested to trade. This is everywhere.

983
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 2: This is the NFL has created a year long thing.

984
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 2: The NBA is a year long thing. And this is

985
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 2: college football. With college football does not sell winning. College

986
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 2: football to me sells hope. College Ball's in the hope business.

987
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:56,399
Speaker 2: And that's recruiting and new coaches and spring practice and

988
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,839
Speaker 2: fall camp and ooh, this guy beat out this guy

989
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:02,240
Speaker 2: for a week side linebacker. That's what is being sold

990
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 2: more than anything right or wrong. Sure, and so I

991
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 2: understand missing actual football, and I think this is a

992
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 2: very good time to work on other parts of your

993
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:18,319
Speaker 2: life if you don't like the drama and the mundane. Oh,

994
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 2: the SEC brought in forty four million dollars because of

995
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:24,280
Speaker 2: their TV deal compared to thirty one for the PAC twelve.

996
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 2: It's fine if you don't like it. Ultimately, it's kind

997
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 2: of inconsequential. Sure, go get your mile time up. And

998
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,959
Speaker 2: he actually said, how do I learn to cook Mexican food?

999
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 2: Let's make you a Mexican chef this spring.

1000
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 1: Here's the other thing I'd add moret thank you for

1001
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 1: writing and thank you for listening for a long time.

1002
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:45,320
Speaker 1: We're not the best people to ask on this topic,

1003
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 1: because we do. We trained in this. We require to

1004
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:54,280
Speaker 1: be news on TV contracts and conference realignment, recruiting flips,

1005
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 1: all the arrests, the things that maybe don't truly matter

1006
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 1: in the scheme of football. We require that stuff in

1007
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,879
Speaker 1: order to do a year round show. So inevitably, Dan

1008
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 1: and I are a little bit more interested in than

1009
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:09,320
Speaker 1: maybe some of your other buddies who are into college football.

1010
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:11,919
Speaker 2: We still make up fake fantasy drafts, do We still

1011
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 2: do brackets for things that are secretly garbage that people

1012
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 2: seem to like but are actually garbage, and so we

1013
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 2: at least try to cause Yeah. I think he's right.

1014
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 2: I think the off field drama is ephemeral. It disappears.

1015
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 2: It ultimately is not going to mean much unless it's

1016
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 2: a star player or a great coach and something, unless

1017
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 2: it turns your program upside down. So I'm okay with

1018
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:39,399
Speaker 2: you checking out. Just throw us the download. That's all

1019
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 2: I'm here to say. Throw us the download, and then

1020
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 2: go listen to whatever your mom's house.

1021
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 1: Sam says when in the dating process, should we have a.

1022
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:50,800
Speaker 2: Should we have like a sound as we now transition

1023
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 2: away from college football?

1024
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: After somebody said.

1025
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 2: He finds it tedious when we transition, not we, but

1026
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 2: as America transitions. So here we go the college football world.

1027
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,839
Speaker 1: Okay, the first thing I had at the ready, the

1028
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 1: college football portion of this show has basically concluded. I'm

1029
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 1: not going to say that with absolution, but I think

1030
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: it has concluded. Yeah, play the dramatics. Sound the lights

1031
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:16,919
Speaker 1: are coming down. Now we're going to talk a little life. Yeah,

1032
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: it sucks my life. Sam says when in the dating process,

1033
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 1: for which date number is Chili's an acceptable date? Okay,

1034
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 1: some would say the first date. I say the third

1035
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 1: because the first and second should be unique and the

1036
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 1: third should be Let's do something common together to see

1037
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 1: how much we actually enjoy each other's company, minus the

1038
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 1: nice dinners or fancy barstand Chili's, I would. I'm just

1039
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: gonna surmise here, where was your first date with solid

1040
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 1: wife Kate?

1041
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,280
Speaker 2: I believe read Robin. Yeah, so that's that's a Chili's cousin.

1042
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 2: So you can speak to this.

1043
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe you probably have a hotter take on

1044
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 1: this matter than I do.

1045
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 2: Okay, So I don't want to be a cidyist, regionist

1046
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 2: geographist because I've I've grew up in the Los Angeles

1047
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 2: area and I live in New York. So I'm not

1048
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:14,399
Speaker 2: going to tell you not to eat it Chili's because

1049
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 2: Chiliess is fine. I'm going to say one Chili's is

1050
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 2: not super impressive. If you have a comparable local option,

1051
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 2: keep that money in your neighborhood, you know, instead of

1052
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 2: eating good in the neighborhood. What is that Applebee's, Apple,

1053
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 2: that's Applebee's. If there is a chili's like Burger beer

1054
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 2: bar that is good and cool and interesting, maybe with

1055
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 2: an outside eating option. If it's that, if it's appropriate

1056
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 2: for that time of year, I would I would avoid

1057
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 2: chili's as long as possible, unless it's particularly convenient, like

1058
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 2: you're starving when you get out of a movie and other's.

1059
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 1: A chili And that was the deal with Red Rock.

1060
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 1: It's nothing, absolutely nothing wrong right next to the movie theater.

1061
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 2: But this is what you have to keep in mind.

1062
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 2: You're trying to impress your date right first date. You're

1063
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:01,799
Speaker 2: trying to not necessarily impressed her like Ooh, I'm I

1064
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:03,800
Speaker 2: have a ton of money and I'm charming and suave.

1065
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 2: You want to impress her by saying I'm not creepy

1066
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 2: and weird. That's the biggest priority. It doesn't matter where

1067
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 2: you eat. If you eat it Chili's, you eat it, Chili's.

1068
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 2: Who cares. So if you want it to be date one,

1069
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 2: that's fine. I would try to get more creative with

1070
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 2: it or more local with it. I would say Date one,

1071
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 2: I'm not creepy and weird. Date two, let me confirm

1072
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 2: I'm definitely not creepy and weird. That's what's most important.

1073
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 2: The food doesn't matter as much.

1074
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 1: Date three.

1075
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 2: I would say, once you've confirmed that you're not creepy

1076
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 2: and weird, I think you should make a push. Doesn't

1077
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 2: have to happen. Maybe cook for your date. Okay, I

1078
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:43,799
Speaker 2: think that's that's an interesting It shows.

1079
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:46,800
Speaker 1: You're anti chili. Is what you're telling is not anti chili,

1080
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 1: anti chili. Do you can admit it?

1081
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:50,360
Speaker 2: Well, what I will say is you can admit it

1082
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 2: as much as Chili's it's chiliess is okay, it's not bad,

1083
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:56,319
Speaker 2: It's not great, but it's fine, great corn on the cup.

1084
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 2: As much as they try, Chili's is never going to

1085
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 2: be able to replicate a really good local place that

1086
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 2: has character, that has regulars whatever. Even if even if

1087
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 2: the food isn't as good, there's something about the energy

1088
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 2: of a good local place that you lose by going

1089
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 2: to a national chain.

1090
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 1: Is that fair? Absolutely fair? Oh? Absolutely fair? So I

1091
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 1: would I would have. I would avoid the corporate energy

1092
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 1: as long as possible. It's convenient. The red robin thing

1093
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 1: for me was super convenient. That's why we went there. Right.

1094
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 1: That's again, you are a Red Robin's success story. That's right, absolutely.

1095
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 2: I would also, if it's convenient, go, But if you

1096
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 2: have the choice, opt local.

1097
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 1: You also may be able to accentuate your personality a

1098
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 1: bit if you could sort of play off the whole

1099
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 1: Chilis thing and turn it into an inside joke, that

1100
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 1: could have some less Yeah, all right, that can make

1101
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 1: for a fun date. But generally, I think I'm with you.

1102
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 1: Do you think the longer you can push it off

1103
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 1: the better? Do you think Sam is asked us this question?

1104
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is a man, woman, whatever,

1105
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 1: but do you think Sam is asking us this question

1106
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 1: because he's into Somebody doesn't want to be embarrassed if

1107
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 1: they have, if they have like snooty tastes or whatever.

1108
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 1: But Sam effin loves chi Chili's is his wheelsouse fudge.

1109
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 1: I need those rims.

1110
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 2: Like he doesn't want to be embarrassed that he loves

1111
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 2: it so much, Like he's Sam is just all about chili.

1112
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 1: He sent this in from a Chili's.

1113
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 2: Right this This is written by Samuel L. Chili, founder

1114
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 2: of Chili's. I think it's I think it's acceptable whenever

1115
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 2: just you want, you want that non corporate energy to

1116
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 2: last as long as possible.

1117
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 1: You got to be aware of the fact that you're

1118
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 1: at a Chili's, I think, is what I'm saying. Yeah,

1119
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 1: while you're there. Okay, good question, by the way. Okay, next,

1120
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 1: uh Bo writes in as someone who brews beer for

1121
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 1: a living, shout out Druid City Brewing. I listened to

1122
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 1: a lot of music other than American football. What other

1123
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 1: Midwest emo should I brew to here in Tuscaloosa? Also

1124
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 1: any chalkboard ideas? Wow, we were on the Druid City Chalkboard.

1125
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 2: We were not earlier, that famous famous chalkboard. A lot

1126
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 2: of college football related drawing, which.

1127
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 1: Was like a huge deal. We were very excited about that.

1128
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 1: On the Secret cellverble g Chi Honor. Okay, Midwestern emo bands, ty,

1129
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 1: do you have I have suggestions? Do you know you

1130
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 1: get to go first on emo? You know that? All right?

1131
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 2: So if you're going authentically Midwestern emo, probably cap and Jazz.

1132
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 2: They've been around forever. They're a Midwestern pioneer on the

1133
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 2: emo scene. I love There's a band I don't even

1134
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 2: know if they exist anymore. There's a band called Spittlefield

1135
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 2: from Chicago album Remember Right Now Great from like early

1136
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 2: two thousands, promised Ring Classic. They're from Milwaukee if we

1137
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 2: consider Lawrence, Kansas to be Midwest, which I think is

1138
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 2: probably planes but midwest to Jason, obviously, you've got your

1139
00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 2: Get Up Kids Alkaline Trios from Chicago, and I'll give

1140
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 2: them a bonus. Nowhere near the Midwest, but I think

1141
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 2: it would. I think it would work for brewing beer.

1142
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 2: There's a band from Orange County. Also, don't think they

1143
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:10,919
Speaker 2: exist anymore. Shows how old we are called lim Beck.

1144
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, l imb We talked about them on the show.

1145
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 2: We absolutely have talked about limb Beck. I think lim

1146
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 2: Beck would be great. I think the album is Hi,

1147
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 2: Everything's great or Hey, everything's fine. There's two of them

1148
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 2: that are like there's like an acoustic version that has

1149
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 2: one of them's great, one of them's fine.

1150
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 1: Whatever.

1151
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 2: That would be my recommendation. My gap and jazz outline,

1152
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 2: Treio Get Up Kids promised Rings Middlefield bonus.

1153
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 1: Limb Beck. My thing was more pop punk, and so

1154
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 1: so you'll say, like, okay, early Fallout Boy. They're from Chicago. Yeah,

1155
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 1: and uh, certainly early all American rejects from Stillwater, Oklahoma. Yeah.

1156
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 2: That also that's the get Up kids planes corollary, but yeah, yes, okay, what.

1157
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 1: Is the most emo team in the SEC? And I

1158
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 1: hate I don't.

1159
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 2: Generally like these questions emo. Huh so the most emo

1160
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 2: team in the SEC? This from Andy? And why is

1161
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 2: it South Carolina? I think we need to define broadly

1162
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 2: how we're approaching this, sort of like a little bit

1163
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 2: of self loathing doesn't really fit in, doesn't really fit in?

1164
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 2: Got some heartbreak, a lot of heartbreak, violent imagery, violent imagery.

1165
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 2: There's like an underground element to to emo. Wear your

1166
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 2: emotions out for everybody to see.

1167
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm thinking of a couple teams here. South Carolina works,

1168
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 1: South Carolin pretty well. Why does South Carolina work? To you? So?

1169
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 1: South Carolina? I believe?

1170
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 2: Were they the most recent team to join the SEC

1171
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 2: before ya Zoo and A and M. It is correct,

1172
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 2: So they're like the new kid trying to fit in.

1173
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 2: That's a definite theme, wearing their emotions for everybody to see. Well,

1174
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 2: must champ check. Yep, heartbreak played a lot of close

1175
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 2: games this year. Yep check violent imagery again, must champ.

1176
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 2: There's the underground elements. I don't know if that fully fits,

1177
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:06,440
Speaker 2: but they play Sandstorm and that feels like it also

1178
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:09,480
Speaker 2: was a hit during when Emo was turned the time

1179
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 2: EMO really soword, so that feels right. I think South

1180
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 2: Carolina is a good answer. I would also say Mississippi State.

1181
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 1: Mississippi State is one that comes to mind. I was

1182
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 1: gonna say Missouri. Missouri might be the easy answer, the

1183
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:24,919
Speaker 1: low hanging fruit because they're one of the newer kids

1184
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 1: on the block. But the one thing that comes to

1185
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 1: mind for me, and this is just on a personal level,

1186
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 1: but when I'm putting in tags on some of the

1187
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:34,960
Speaker 1: SEC shows that we do, and I have to tag

1188
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 1: a posting with all of the team names in the SEC,

1189
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 1: inevitably I forget about Missouri because in my mind, maybe

1190
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 1: it's just like a weird mental block. I don't know,

1191
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 1: Missouri does not feel like they're part of the southeast

1192
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:51,080
Speaker 1: part of the United States. That's like, I mean, neither

1193
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 1: does Houston Station. Absolutely, and I forget them too, But

1194
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 1: more often than not, Missouri is the team I forget

1195
01:02:57,800 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 1: because they just don't feel like they be and they're

1196
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 1: in the East and certainly it's not as high profile

1197
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 1: as the West. That's fine. Emotion. Barry Otam had that

1198
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 1: emotional tirade. What was it a year ago? That's true, Okay,

1199
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:12,960
Speaker 1: some heartbreak. We've watched the offense. We've watched the defense

1200
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 1: at times like each has had their own trials and tribulations.

1201
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 1: The twenty fifteen offense down and out in a bad place.

1202
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 1: So I think Missouri might be low hanging fruit. But

1203
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 1: that's probably my answer.

1204
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:28,320
Speaker 2: I have Mississippi State here just because of the feeling

1205
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 2: alienated in a way, Starkville is a little bit different

1206
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:34,240
Speaker 2: than the rest of the SEC in terms of geography

1207
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:36,800
Speaker 2: and attitude, not a good or bad way, They're just different.

1208
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 2: And then there is the element of that emo or

1209
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 2: scream o singer whatever holding the mic over the crowd,

1210
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 2: and you get that loud feedback from the crowd yelling

1211
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 2: the lyrics, and there's that cowbell elements where you're getting

1212
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:54,400
Speaker 2: that audience participation, like you go into a dashboard show,

1213
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:57,040
Speaker 2: you go to whatever show, and you have that roar

1214
01:03:57,120 --> 01:03:59,240
Speaker 2: from the crowd, And I think Mississippi State fits. That

1215
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 2: next question comes to us, Hmmm, this I'm gonna I'm

1216
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaker 2: gonna throw to you. I have an answer, but I

1217
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 2: know you're gonna feel more passionately about this because you

1218
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 2: are you will drop me as soon as the Weather

1219
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 2: channel comes calling.

1220
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:12,920
Speaker 1: That's right. Oh my god.

1221
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you were saying we want you to be

1222
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 2: Cantory two point zero, you will change your phone number

1223
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 2: and block me. You have endless money, Curtis asks and

1224
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 2: a time and the time for one whole year, and

1225
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 2: you can chase storms anywhere. Top five types of weather

1226
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:34,920
Speaker 2: events you'd want to witness in person? Wow, so this

1227
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 2: isn't I guess it's chasing, but it's also you just

1228
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 2: want to be present to see what it's like.

1229
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:45,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, okay, see I feel very guilty answering this

1230
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:48,160
Speaker 1: question because the kinds of things that I'd like to

1231
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 1: see probably result in hardship for a lot of people. Okay,

1232
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:55,120
Speaker 1: many of whom listen to the show, so asterisk. Yeah,

1233
01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to champion any of.

1234
01:04:57,600 --> 01:05:00,040
Speaker 2: These How many of these things would you like to

1235
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 2: see in a remote place with nobody living, so nobody

1236
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 2: is going to be physically affected by this crazy storm.

1237
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 2: You are able to go see it in a in

1238
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:11,560
Speaker 2: a barren wasteland or an uninhabited place.

1239
01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 1: A tornado would be cool on a dessert, and it

1240
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:17,440
Speaker 1: would be cool Tornia. There are people who do this

1241
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:18,200
Speaker 1: for a living a tourney.

1242
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:21,640
Speaker 2: Do you ever see those like tankers that the storm

1243
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 2: chasers are in that way up bajillion pounds.

1244
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:27,680
Speaker 1: They're like tanks, man, they are they are basically tanks.

1245
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 1: Have you been in a white out? I've been in

1246
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 1: a white out? Yeah, I've been in a white out.

1247
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 1: How is a white out? It's crazy, it's all white,

1248
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:37,400
Speaker 1: it's wild. I never really have.

1249
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 2: I've been snowed in, and that's that's blizzard conditions. But

1250
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:43,280
Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever been able to stand outside

1251
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:44,760
Speaker 2: and not see anything in front.

1252
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:45,440
Speaker 1: Of like my hands.

1253
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:47,760
Speaker 2: Have you ever have you ever been on a mountain?

1254
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:51,840
Speaker 2: I would love to be adjacent to an avalanche, But

1255
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 2: is that a weather event? That's not a wall not.

1256
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:55,320
Speaker 2: It's a weather event in that you need a lot

1257
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 2: of snow. But then conditions change, obviously on the mountains,

1258
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:00,920
Speaker 2: so it's like in the same vein as storm surge

1259
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:04,760
Speaker 2: at a hurricane. It's like a result of another phenomenon.

1260
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 1: If I could be in a dope cabin on an

1261
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 1: adjacent mountain and just be sipping coffee watching an avalanche

1262
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 1: affect no human life, I'd be a hell of a

1263
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:18,920
Speaker 1: morning along the same lines. What about a good mud slide.

1264
01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:21,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess that is. It is technically a storm

1265
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 2: and weather event. It's the after effects. I They're not

1266
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:27,920
Speaker 2: as great, They're not as fun. There's a rumble to

1267
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:30,280
Speaker 2: an avalanche that I don't feel like you get with mudslides.

1268
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:34,280
Speaker 2: I'll tell you this, ty, and I've experienced it, probably

1269
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:36,120
Speaker 2: not on the level that you know. I don't know

1270
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:38,920
Speaker 2: if it's an Oklahoma or Texas whoever gets it most violently.

1271
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 2: There's something about hale. Oh yeah, hale does it for me.

1272
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 2: I'm not a spiritual person. I'm not a religious person.

1273
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:52,360
Speaker 2: Rain is rain, snow is snow. Hale feels biblical. There

1274
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 2: is something about hale where like, oh, somebody is upset

1275
01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 2: up there about something, and there is something beautifully violent

1276
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:02,560
Speaker 2: about hail as long as it's not affecting you know,

1277
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:06,320
Speaker 2: people or property in significant ways. I react in a

1278
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 2: very visceral way to hale and like being in a

1279
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Speaker 2: crazy hailstorm.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. It kind of does it for me.

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01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:15,120
Speaker 1: I thought of my answer. The answer isn't so much

1282
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:19,680
Speaker 1: a tornado. It's a water spout. What is what? It's

1283
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:23,360
Speaker 1: a tornado over water? A close cousin of the fire

1284
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:27,560
Speaker 1: spout or fire whirl. Maybe it's called which is a

1285
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 1: tornado over Like, what was it that you just sent me?

1286
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:35,919
Speaker 1: That something under Chicago? Yeh oh my gosh. So that's

1287
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:38,439
Speaker 1: when the fault lines fill with water and freezer or something.

1288
01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 1: That's when water in the ground freezes and it causes

1289
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:44,120
Speaker 1: causes a reaction in the ground and it makes the

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01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 1: plates a boom. Yeah, tectonics. Love tech. There are also

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01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:50,720
Speaker 1: some crazy like cloud formations that arise that I might

1292
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:52,720
Speaker 1: like to see. But my number one answer is a

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01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 1: water spout. That's a good answer. I like that. Okay,

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01:07:57,120 --> 01:08:01,240
Speaker 1: I think here, let's go. There's two more questions than

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01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:04,240
Speaker 1: I guess. We'll talk personal stuff. Do you feel compelled

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01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:08,560
Speaker 1: to like love slash retweet your significant other social media posts?

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01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:13,600
Speaker 1: Ryan wants to know. Yes, So your wife is on Twitter.

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01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:16,800
Speaker 1: She is yeah, good tweeter. I say that I follow her,

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01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:18,720
Speaker 1: I enjoy her tweet. She will love to hear that

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01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 1: thank you dance for good Twitter.

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01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:25,959
Speaker 2: My wife is not on Twitter. She posts on Instagram

1302
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:29,200
Speaker 2: maybe once a year and wants nothing to do with

1303
01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:33,320
Speaker 2: social media. But I understand that there's there are pressures

1304
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:35,559
Speaker 2: that come along with it, and to that, I say,

1305
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 2: delete all of your social media accounts. It's not doing

1306
01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:41,000
Speaker 2: you any good. You can follow us on Twitter and

1307
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:44,599
Speaker 2: that's it. It's rough out there man, social media. Like

1308
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:48,240
Speaker 2: I've had people say to me, did you see this picture?

1309
01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:51,680
Speaker 2: I've seen media people post things like I see you

1310
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:55,720
Speaker 2: out there watching my Instagram stories but not liking my

1311
01:08:55,920 --> 01:09:01,759
Speaker 2: posts smart, interesting, funny. People get their brain warped because

1312
01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:05,680
Speaker 2: of like some comments and like, it's insane what it

1313
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:06,280
Speaker 2: does to people.

1314
01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:08,800
Speaker 1: And you feel that. No, I don't feel like I

1315
01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:11,720
Speaker 1: need that, but I feel compelled to like solid wife

1316
01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:15,479
Speaker 1: Kate's tweets. Yes, sure, I feel I feel compelled to.

1317
01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:18,840
Speaker 1: As for me personally, I could take it or leave it.

1318
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:20,559
Speaker 1: I don't really need it. Do you have do you

1319
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:22,760
Speaker 1: have Instagram? I don't even know if you have a

1320
01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:25,640
Speaker 1: personal Instagram. I have personal Instagram. I don't use it

1321
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:29,160
Speaker 1: because my pictures are terrible. I take terrible photos. I'm

1322
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:31,800
Speaker 1: not good. I also can't see color. I can't. Yeah, No,

1323
01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:34,880
Speaker 1: it's just it's it's a bad medium for me personally

1324
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:38,559
Speaker 1: to promote my brand. Right. I enjoy other content on

1325
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 1: Instagram very much, but I'm looking your inside. My last

1326
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:45,000
Speaker 1: posting was like many moons ago. This is a pretty

1327
01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:47,920
Speaker 1: good picture. November. You got some snow. Yeah, but look

1328
01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 1: at the other ones. There's nothing of any real merit

1329
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:52,160
Speaker 1: on there. Dan, you posted a picture of goldfish we

1330
01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:56,800
Speaker 1: were in Chicago, a pumpkin pie. Oh yeah, no, your

1331
01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:58,720
Speaker 1: your grid is now I haven't posted and over it

1332
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:03,200
Speaker 1: like I have a funny picture hear of a misused

1333
01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 1: comma where it's said Rachel Ray finds inspiration in cooking

1334
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:10,160
Speaker 1: her family and her dog. I like, yeah, that is good.

1335
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:11,080
Speaker 1: I've seen that picture.

1336
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:13,679
Speaker 2: I like the stories though, because they disappear, like here's

1337
01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 2: a little here's a little nugget, and then you can

1338
01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:17,040
Speaker 2: just move on with your life and the world will

1339
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:17,760
Speaker 2: never see it again.

1340
01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:20,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonnat like a thousand follows now and everyone will

1341
01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:20,760
Speaker 1: be sort of.

1342
01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:23,599
Speaker 2: Follow Ty hilden Brant t U Y H I, L

1343
01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:26,720
Speaker 2: D E N B R and Y two got it first,

1344
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:29,120
Speaker 2: You locked it up. You locked up the Tay hilden

1345
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:29,599
Speaker 2: Brant name.

1346
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:33,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just to circle back. I yeah, I do

1347
01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:37,280
Speaker 1: feel compelled to like it is weird, solid wife ks content.

1348
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:37,920
Speaker 1: Yeah I do.

1349
01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:40,559
Speaker 2: It's when when people in real life say things like,

1350
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:43,719
Speaker 2: huh did you uh see the picture?

1351
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:46,880
Speaker 1: I pose it. Yeah, I'll tell you my problem on Facebook.

1352
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:50,120
Speaker 1: My problem on Facebook is I've hidden most of the

1353
01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:54,240
Speaker 1: people I am friends with. It's the move. I've hidden

1354
01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:57,040
Speaker 1: most of the people, and it's really come back to

1355
01:10:57,080 --> 01:10:59,200
Speaker 1: bite me in the butt because I've had friends who

1356
01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:03,920
Speaker 1: have literally had kids, other big time life events have

1357
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:06,519
Speaker 1: occurred to them, and I've totally been in the dark.

1358
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:09,800
Speaker 1: I can see that, and that's fine. It's your life

1359
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:13,719
Speaker 1: kept on going, didn't it. Anyway? Moving on final question,

1360
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 1: I really hope this isn't real. Okay, Oh yeah, yeah, I.

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01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:20,240
Speaker 2: Suspect it might be. I would say there's a sixty

1362
01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:23,719
Speaker 2: one percent chance it's real. That's the number I'm putting it. Okay, Okay.

1363
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:27,200
Speaker 2: This came to us, I believe on Reddit my girlfriend

1364
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:29,680
Speaker 2: of about four and a half years now and one

1365
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:32,880
Speaker 2: of my best friends since elementary school. So those are

1366
01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:36,479
Speaker 2: two different people drunkenly made out at a pool party

1367
01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:42,799
Speaker 2: around two years ago, who I just found out because

1368
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:46,920
Speaker 2: she says it means nothing to them and they didn't

1369
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:49,800
Speaker 2: want to hurt me. Oh boy, I'm really not sure

1370
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:52,560
Speaker 2: how to react. I'm kind of in shock. Any thoughts, advice?

1371
01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:54,840
Speaker 2: It might be it might be a made up thing

1372
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:55,960
Speaker 2: just to get us talking.

1373
01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:59,320
Speaker 1: I don't know, okay, but there's a chance it isn't.

1374
01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:01,439
Speaker 1: There's a chance we've got overballer out there in neat

1375
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:04,400
Speaker 1: and pain correct. I was thinking about this question for

1376
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:08,320
Speaker 1: the moment it dropped on the Reddit feed. The part

1377
01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:11,080
Speaker 1: that jumps out at me that I take issue the

1378
01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:15,439
Speaker 1: most issue with is just finding out because it meant

1379
01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:17,680
Speaker 1: nothing and they didn't want to hurt you. If they

1380
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:20,200
Speaker 1: didn't want to hurt you, they wouldn't have done it

1381
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:23,320
Speaker 1: in the first place. So that part I have a

1382
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:26,759
Speaker 1: real beef with that statement there that I think above

1383
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:28,559
Speaker 1: all else is what would stick in my craw the most.

1384
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:31,640
Speaker 1: Presumably this happens two and a half years into a relationship.

1385
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:35,840
Speaker 1: Two and a half years. Yeah, that's a long time, right,

1386
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:38,000
Speaker 1: It seems like that's a long time in.

1387
01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:41,920
Speaker 2: And I'd say it's different, but not necessarily too different.

1388
01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 2: If this is a twenty one year old doing this

1389
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:46,800
Speaker 2: versus a thirty one year old doing this, hard to no,

1390
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:49,800
Speaker 2: are we don't have age background, no nothing. Twenty one

1391
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:52,240
Speaker 2: year old much more likely to do something immature and

1392
01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:54,360
Speaker 2: hurtful than a thirty one year old in my experience.

1393
01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:59,360
Speaker 2: The fact that you drunkenly do this. And I've had

1394
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:02,240
Speaker 2: friends who have cheated been cheated on, and they work

1395
01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:05,120
Speaker 2: it out and they get married and they're presumably happy,

1396
01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:08,439
Speaker 2: but you never really know, So it's a different situation.

1397
01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 2: For however anybody wants to feel, that's fine, But I

1398
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:16,600
Speaker 2: can only speak for myself. It seems like it'd be

1399
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:21,160
Speaker 2: hard to trust this person, yes, keeping something, because it's

1400
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:22,840
Speaker 2: not just keeping something from you for two years, it's

1401
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:24,959
Speaker 2: lying to you for two years. It's lying by omission.

1402
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:28,400
Speaker 2: So you're lying for two years. And it's not like

1403
01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:30,599
Speaker 2: they just said, yep, I was at this random party

1404
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:32,160
Speaker 2: and made out with this random dude.

1405
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:36,080
Speaker 1: It's like Jody with and eye saying.

1406
01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:38,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, a couple of years ago made out with camera

1407
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:44,240
Speaker 2: guy Dave. What sorry meant to tell you? Of all

1408
01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:47,360
Speaker 2: the people, Yeah, it'd be tough for me, and you

1409
01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:50,960
Speaker 2: have to evaluate it for yourself. But trust is a

1410
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:56,479
Speaker 2: super difficult thing to restore, and I find I would

1411
01:13:56,520 --> 01:14:00,280
Speaker 2: be in a place where I would be looking for

1412
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:03,920
Speaker 2: somebody that potentially wouldn't lie to me for two years

1413
01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:05,200
Speaker 2: about making out with a friend.

1414
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:09,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, I'm not going to tell this gentleman

1415
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:11,200
Speaker 1: what to do because we don't have the full context here.

1416
01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:14,840
Speaker 2: Because if you're if you're a loyal person, I know,

1417
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:18,240
Speaker 2: if fidelity is something that's important to you, you should

1418
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:22,040
Speaker 2: be with somebody. This is me saying speaking for myself

1419
01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:23,160
Speaker 2: that feels the same way.

1420
01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:27,880
Speaker 1: I agree with all of that. I just would feel

1421
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:30,240
Speaker 1: very guilty about trying to give advice here without the

1422
01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:33,760
Speaker 1: full context because exactly right, life is very complicated and

1423
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:35,760
Speaker 1: painted in shades of gray, not black and white. So

1424
01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 1: and if this, if this person is crazy important to

1425
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:40,839
Speaker 1: you and you want to work it out, attempt to

1426
01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:44,120
Speaker 1: speak to a professional together and try to get to

1427
01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:47,120
Speaker 1: the root and try to build a new foundation, that

1428
01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:50,240
Speaker 1: would be a direction. My only point here, and I

1429
01:14:50,280 --> 01:14:55,519
Speaker 1: will stick with this, is the line about it meant

1430
01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:59,120
Speaker 1: nothing to them and or they didn't want to hurt

1431
01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:02,880
Speaker 1: me is bull. That's bull. Oh this is also just immaturity. Yeah,

1432
01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:04,720
Speaker 1: total bull. If they didn't want to hurt you, they

1433
01:15:04,720 --> 01:15:06,120
Speaker 1: wouldn't have done it in the first place. It wouldn't

1434
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:07,880
Speaker 1: have lied to you for two years. So that line,

1435
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:10,280
Speaker 1: if that is in fact the excuse, is not a

1436
01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:11,599
Speaker 1: valid excuse in my book.

1437
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:13,800
Speaker 2: If it came out that you made out with not

1438
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:18,479
Speaker 2: necessarily one of Kate's friends. But early, early on, you're like, oh,

1439
01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:22,080
Speaker 2: yeap slipped up at the Christmas party and you've been

1440
01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:23,080
Speaker 2: holding it back.

1441
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:26,400
Speaker 1: I think you'd be out right, I think I'd probably

1442
01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:26,680
Speaker 1: be out.

1443
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:29,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely would be I hope i'd be out.

1444
01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:33,519
Speaker 2: I definitely would be out. So all right, I'm just

1445
01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:36,240
Speaker 2: I'm too lazy to do that. I love my wife

1446
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:40,479
Speaker 2: too much. Yeah, all right, that's our show, except for

1447
01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:45,240
Speaker 2: one last thing. I guess, yes, So, I guess if

1448
01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:48,200
Speaker 2: you follow me on Instagram, which God blessed, thank you,

1449
01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:49,360
Speaker 2: thanks for the follow.

1450
01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:51,519
Speaker 1: Much better pictures than mine, by the way. Yeah, I

1451
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:54,280
Speaker 1: just do the story thing so it disappears. Dan Rubinstein,

1452
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:57,479
Speaker 1: just one word, I guess I got some news. How

1453
01:15:57,479 --> 01:16:07,880
Speaker 1: you want to throw me a drum roll? Body?

1454
01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:16,680
Speaker 2: That is the sound of my son crying, because we

1455
01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:22,479
Speaker 2: have a solid baby through. When we started this show,

1456
01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:25,519
Speaker 2: we were not with our wives. No, there was no

1457
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:29,880
Speaker 2: home ownership, there was no wedding planning, there was no wedding,

1458
01:16:29,960 --> 01:16:32,599
Speaker 2: there was no honeymoon, there was no buying of a home,

1459
01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:35,639
Speaker 2: and there were certainly no children. And so if you've

1460
01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:37,639
Speaker 2: been listening to the show for a long time, we've

1461
01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:42,360
Speaker 2: all come to a very far and definitely better place together.

1462
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:47,200
Speaker 2: And so now this would be two weeks ago, my

1463
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:50,479
Speaker 2: beautiful wife Jody with and I gave birth to a

1464
01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:54,439
Speaker 2: very healthy son, seven pounds eleven ounces, and there is

1465
01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:57,640
Speaker 2: now an extra member of the solidverbal crew. And you

1466
01:16:57,720 --> 01:17:00,599
Speaker 2: can point to this day as when we jump the shark.

1467
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:05,080
Speaker 2: This is the day. Like, yeah, once Dan had his kid,

1468
01:17:05,080 --> 01:17:07,160
Speaker 2: it just wasn't the same. I don't know, I'm gonna

1469
01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:10,800
Speaker 2: listen to Bill Connolly and Steven or something, but yes,

1470
01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:11,760
Speaker 2: I have a son.

1471
01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:16,360
Speaker 1: He's healthy, he's amazing. It's been a great two weeks.

1472
01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:20,880
Speaker 2: We had his two week doctor's appointment today and ninety

1473
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:25,040
Speaker 2: eighth percentile height, whoa around thirty to forty percentile weight,

1474
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:31,360
Speaker 2: but strong legs. Scouting report is very positive, elite pooper.

1475
01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:35,000
Speaker 2: I am over the moon, completely in love and yeah,

1476
01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:35,840
Speaker 2: we have a solid baby.

1477
01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:40,760
Speaker 1: It's pretty incredible. Wow. Yeah, that's very exciting. Dan congratulating.

1478
01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:42,920
Speaker 1: I am I am the first person to have a kid.

1479
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:46,360
Speaker 1: You are. I'll treat it as such. I am the

1480
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:51,840
Speaker 1: first father. This is College Football Podcasting's Truman Show. Is

1481
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:53,120
Speaker 1: what this is? This is it?

1482
01:17:54,439 --> 01:17:57,360
Speaker 2: So yeah, we've actually gotten questions before, like when you

1483
01:17:57,360 --> 01:17:59,000
Speaker 2: guys have kids, so you guys can talk about what

1484
01:17:59,040 --> 01:18:02,360
Speaker 2: it's like to wach college football and juggle fatherhood or

1485
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:03,040
Speaker 2: something like that.

1486
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:06,920
Speaker 1: At least on my end, I've I've heard reports that

1487
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:09,200
Speaker 1: Tie is very virile. That's right.

1488
01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:12,080
Speaker 2: So now I have a number of questions here, right,

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Speaker 2: and I will say I'm going to answer all of

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Speaker 2: those questions. And we've talked about you know, we get

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Speaker 2: engaged and we talk about wedding planning and stuff like that,

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Speaker 2: and we check in blah blah blah. I was just

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01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:25,400
Speaker 2: very I wanted everything to go right. We were very

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Speaker 2: fortunate that it did. Everything was very healthy along the way.

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Speaker 2: I definitely understand that we are incredibly fortunate for that

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01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:35,120
Speaker 2: to be the case. And certainly thoughts are out to

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Speaker 2: everybody you know going through their own stuff and you know,

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Speaker 2: always thinking of you. But just wanted to keep it

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Speaker 2: low key to make sure everything went all right.

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Speaker 1: Well it did, and congratulations, have you acquired your dad's

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01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:49,360
Speaker 1: strength yet? Dan?

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01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:52,120
Speaker 2: You know what, I actually was going to the gym Moore,

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01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:55,760
Speaker 2: you know, I know that's sort of endorphin and in

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01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:57,880
Speaker 2: the spur of the moment lift a car thing. Sure,

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01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:01,679
Speaker 2: but I've definitely been squatting more. I've definitely been hammering

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01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:05,000
Speaker 2: the delts and the tries for sure. So yes, how

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01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:07,160
Speaker 2: many it's on the uptick? How many times have you

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01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:12,000
Speaker 2: been peed on? So he is about to be two

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01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:17,479
Speaker 2: weeks old, four and a half, five times? Listen it listens.

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Speaker 2: I know people have recommendations. There are tents that you

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01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:24,760
Speaker 2: can put over and you cover with a diaper or

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01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:25,240
Speaker 2: something like.

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Speaker 1: That medical tent.

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01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:30,040
Speaker 2: Sure, it doesn't medical tent. It doesn't matter how quick

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Speaker 2: you are or if you think your timing is right.

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01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:34,280
Speaker 2: You're quick and he doesn't pee and then you're like,

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01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:37,360
Speaker 2: I think we're safe. Now remove the diaper, and then

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01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:40,200
Speaker 2: the fire hose begins. So this is not going to

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01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:41,360
Speaker 2: be ending anytime soon.

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Speaker 1: Will you be doing a dedication podcast like a cat

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01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:49,960
Speaker 1: Steven's Father and Son? Oh, where you're going to put

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01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:52,479
Speaker 1: this one in the vault so that the young and

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01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:54,040
Speaker 1: can listen when he turns of age.

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Speaker 2: That's a good question. I have a couple of friends

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01:19:57,200 --> 01:20:01,280
Speaker 2: actually who write letters to their kids some month just

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01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:04,760
Speaker 2: check in just to a vault, a little time thing.

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Speaker 2: I don't have any audio plans at the moment, but

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01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:12,080
Speaker 2: that could change. Okay, what's time capsule.

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01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:12,680
Speaker 1: That's what I'm looking for.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, Jody with an eye. Absolute champ. Not going

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01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:21,320
Speaker 2: into details about the labor, no, but she is. She

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01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:24,240
Speaker 2: did such a phenomenal job, total champ.

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Speaker 1: So for those of you wondering, yeah, why weren't we

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01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 1: in San Francisco for the championship? Why didn't we have

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01:20:30,479 --> 01:20:34,400
Speaker 1: a live show this January? Now, maybe you got some

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01:20:34,479 --> 01:20:36,360
Speaker 1: critical details to that question.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so she was due like a week after the

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01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:42,160
Speaker 2: National Championship game. Was like, you know what, I'm just

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01:20:42,160 --> 01:20:44,400
Speaker 2: gonna stay in New York and not miss anything important.

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Speaker 1: How about that? All right? Well, any other questions? I

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01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:51,080
Speaker 1: have a number of questions, but worried about the ninety

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Speaker 1: minute mark here. All right, we'll spread it to another

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01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:55,679
Speaker 1: Q and A show, and I would like to field

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01:20:56,479 --> 01:20:59,000
Speaker 1: I would like to field questions from the verballerhood. Now

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01:20:59,000 --> 01:20:59,960
Speaker 1: that we are about this.

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01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:03,360
Speaker 2: I have I'm I'm extremely excited to talk about fatherhood

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01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:05,639
Speaker 2: after we talk about college football and shows.

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Speaker 1: I have many many questions on this matter. Great, and

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Speaker 1: I am excited to blitz you with them at the

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01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:16,200
Speaker 1: most inopportune moments, the way you do me with everything else.

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Speaker 1: That's great.

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01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:23,080
Speaker 2: I am excited, and I imagine a very healthy percentage

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01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:26,880
Speaker 2: of our listeners have children, or at least a child,

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01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:30,760
Speaker 2: and to them, I say, I am much dumber than

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01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:34,439
Speaker 2: all of you. So I am very excited for anybody

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01:21:34,479 --> 01:21:37,360
Speaker 2: to write in with any questions and or if you

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01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:41,280
Speaker 2: have feedback, as it appears most parents do, if you

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01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:42,679
Speaker 2: got tips, I'm ready.

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01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:45,240
Speaker 1: We're going to be talking about the conception. I want

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01:21:45,280 --> 01:21:48,519
Speaker 1: play by play. We're going to be absolutely about teething, yep,

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01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:52,040
Speaker 1: potty train, all of this stuff. I'm right on the

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01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:52,800
Speaker 1: hook for this. Now.

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01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:56,240
Speaker 2: This is when our show got especially terrible yep, and

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01:21:56,280 --> 01:21:58,920
Speaker 2: it jumped the shark once the solid baby shut up.

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01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:01,520
Speaker 1: Now he's great. He is. He is fantastic.

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01:22:01,560 --> 01:22:06,080
Speaker 2: He's fun and according to all of his grandparents, exceptional

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01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:08,200
Speaker 2: and very smart for his age.

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Speaker 1: Terrific. Dan, Yes, I also did ask you when we

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Speaker 1: can close out with this. It was the most Darren

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01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:15,760
Speaker 1: ravel thing I've ever said in my life. If you

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Speaker 1: had given any thought to the branding of the child,

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01:22:19,080 --> 01:22:22,439
Speaker 1: like how you would present your new son here on though.

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01:22:22,320 --> 01:22:24,479
Speaker 2: He has a first name in a middle name, yeah,

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01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:28,120
Speaker 2: that's about his deep The branding is actually before he

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01:22:28,240 --> 01:22:31,000
Speaker 2: was born. My mother in law who's a huge sports

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01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:37,120
Speaker 2: fan and extraordinarily thoughtful, made up a custom with our logo,

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01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:39,880
Speaker 2: fonts and colors and everything, and I'll post a picture

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01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:40,439
Speaker 2: of it once.

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01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:44,680
Speaker 1: He wears it. The Solid Baby onesie with a Rubinstein

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01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:45,759
Speaker 1: on the back. Nice.

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01:22:45,880 --> 01:22:50,960
Speaker 2: So the Solid Verbal and my wee son are going

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01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:53,479
Speaker 2: to be one and the same very soon the branding

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01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:56,800
Speaker 2: is complete, the Solid correct, the Solid Baby. All right, well,

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01:22:56,840 --> 01:23:01,800
Speaker 2: please join me out there in wishing my wonderful co

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01:23:01,920 --> 01:23:05,679
Speaker 2: host the most heartfelt congratulations here on this life event,

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01:23:05,960 --> 01:23:09,320
Speaker 2: the birth of your child. Very excited for you, man,

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01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:10,040
Speaker 2: that's great.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much. I am very tired. All right, well,

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01:23:13,960 --> 01:23:16,920
Speaker 1: go get some sleep. Yes to all of you out

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01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:19,000
Speaker 1: there who listen to the whole thing, hope you enjoyed it.

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01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:22,760
Speaker 1: Please do write insoliverble at gmail dot com. Find us Facebook, Twitter, Instagram,

1592
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:26,640
Speaker 1: also on Reddit, Reddit dot com, slash r slash soliverbal

1593
01:23:26,760 --> 01:23:29,360
Speaker 1: also anywhere you could find your podcasts, you can find

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01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:34,040
Speaker 1: The Solid Verbal. Be it Spotify, iTunes, Google Play, Stitch,

1595
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:36,360
Speaker 1: or you name it. We're all over the place. We

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01:23:36,439 --> 01:23:39,439
Speaker 1: will be back in a week talk some college football

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01:23:39,479 --> 01:23:42,120
Speaker 1: and otherwise put in the meantime for that guy over there,

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01:23:42,200 --> 01:23:46,080
Speaker 1: Dan Rubency, new Father Dan Ruberstein for myself, Tie hilding Brand,

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Speaker 1: Thanks again for tuning in. We'll catch you all soon.

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Speaker 1: To me high, stay solid, peace,