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Speaker 1: off field. Start with you, Terrell. The Cleveland Browns are
Speaker 1: gonna start Jamis Winston, Sean Watson. We don't have to
Speaker 1: watch him anymore, So there we go. So what does
Speaker 1: this mean here for this enormous spread? Because nine and
Speaker 1: a half is a big number. Andrew and I talked
Speaker 1: about it with Well, I would say not a lot
Speaker 1: of ease on Monday Show. So where are we at
Speaker 1: with it now?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean I feel good about it. We seen
Speaker 2: this Ravens team over the course of this season. They
Speaker 2: have let teams back into games at into games and
Speaker 2: have the teams always covered the spread? No, not always,
Speaker 2: but they've definitely been reasonable. And this is a large
Speaker 2: number for them to try to overcome. And here we
Speaker 2: have a Browns team that's reinvigorated without just Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 2: The fans are the fans cheered, The fans cheered, and
Speaker 2: Jameis Winston went on an epic rant of all time. Afterwards,
Speaker 2: you're telling me that you don't want to back a
Speaker 2: quarterback like that that's gonna come in and reinvigorate an offense.
Speaker 2: And the thing that I think Jameis Winston has going
Speaker 2: for him that Deshaun Watson didn't have going for him
Speaker 2: is that while Jameis Winston might not make the right
Speaker 2: read all the time, at least he gets the ball
Speaker 2: out quick. He's gonna throw the ball out, He's not
Speaker 2: gonna hold it extra long and make that Ravens defense
Speaker 2: look better. We see the Ravens this season, you can
Speaker 2: get over on them in the passing game. We'll see
Speaker 2: about Marlon Humphrey this week. But yeah, I'm all over
Speaker 2: the Browns. I think this is a sleepy spot where
Speaker 2: the Ravens maybe get a win, but this is a
Speaker 2: three point football game.
Speaker 1: Ericson our early lean was the Browns and what we
Speaker 1: were talking about this game on Monday together. The take
Speaker 1: that I had was, if inded, we do get Winston
Speaker 1: named the quarterback garbage time Jamis is one of the
Speaker 1: things that can absolutely ruin your day or make your day,
Speaker 1: depending on what side of that you're on, and This
Speaker 1: feels like that perfect insigns where we could be in
Speaker 1: that territory. So you've had a couple of days to
Speaker 1: maridate in it. Where have we landed here on the
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Ravens nine getting nine and a half in
Speaker 1: some other markets.
Speaker 4: Well, similar to I'm always firing off on bets, Jameis
Speaker 4: wins is not going to stop firing in this game.
Speaker 4: Whether they're down seventeen to twenty one, twenty four, this
Speaker 4: bet will never be dead until the final The clock
Speaker 4: had zero zero, zero zero basically. So I feel like
Speaker 4: you're gonna be live the entire time because with the
Speaker 4: Browns with Jamis Winston, they're not gonna give up. They're
Speaker 4: gonna play inspired football in any way they can. They
Speaker 4: want to get Nick Chubb as many touchdowns as that
Speaker 4: guy can handle. And I think Winston's gonna be able
Speaker 4: to improve the offense. I think it's just gonna be
Speaker 4: better than Deshaun Watson. So you have a divisional matchup
Speaker 4: at home. We've already seen the Ravens play down to
Speaker 4: their competition back in Week two. Who they play Las
Speaker 4: Vegas Raiders? A team that, oh, what's this team? We
Speaker 4: don't really care and they end up losing that game.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 4: They let Dallas back into the game as well when
Speaker 4: they blew them out in the first half. So I
Speaker 4: think Cleveland can definitely keep this way closer than the
Speaker 4: nine and a half point spread suggests. You look at
Speaker 4: Cleveland playing at home eight and four in the money
Speaker 4: line at home in the last twelve home games, like
Speaker 4: they're a good team when they play in Cleveland. You
Speaker 4: have the Ravens big win on Monday night, short week, right,
Speaker 4: So I just think that the Browns are the play
Speaker 4: here again, basically a double digit home underdog.
Speaker 3: The process.
Speaker 4: People, this is just a good bet to make on
Speaker 4: the Cleveland Browns plus nine and a half. You look
Speaker 4: at Jameis Winston a ten point spread and his last
Speaker 4: nine starts, he'd be seven to two against the spread
Speaker 4: and his last nine starts as a starter, So I
Speaker 4: love the Browns as well.
Speaker 1: All right, trail back to one of your picks here. Now,
Speaker 1: the Eagles went in and beat your giants, thrilled to
Speaker 1: a bloody pulp for a couple hours there, So a
Speaker 1: swit for Saquon Parkley as expected, as you know, no
Speaker 1: one's surprised there. Hopefully you had all those Saquon overs.
Speaker 1: As we talked about all last week. That was the
Speaker 1: theme of last week. Just bet the overs. I wish
Speaker 1: I got the two touchdowns.
Speaker 2: You could have took all his overs for a beautiful
Speaker 2: price of minus two hundred.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, no, you put some things together with the touchdown.
Speaker 1: You have some plus of money in there. That's what
Speaker 1: I did. I just also got a little greedy and
Speaker 1: I went for the two touchdown in the first touchdown
Speaker 1: and also but those didn't quite you know, all hit
Speaker 1: where I wanted to. So let's talk about Bengals Eagles
Speaker 1: this week. The Bengals starting to pull themselves out of
Speaker 1: their doldrums a little bit here. But now again we're
Speaker 1: in a situation where we're facing a better opponent with
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles seeming to be back on track a bit.
Speaker 1: Health is there for the wide receivers. So the numbers
Speaker 1: forty eight row, considering these two offenses and the weapons
Speaker 1: they have, is this an over?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think this is a clear over here. It's
Speaker 2: a little short. I think it's just the fact that
Speaker 2: neither one of these defenses have been all that inspiring,
Speaker 2: and anytime they've had a really good defensive effort. It
Speaker 2: was against the New York Giants, so like, I can't
Speaker 2: take that into account. They got the Giants have scored
Speaker 2: ten points total between those two teams. No, so that's
Speaker 2: not gonna be that's the outlier. I think. Now you
Speaker 2: look at dvoaights, both of these two teams towards the
Speaker 2: bottom of league in terms of past DVOA. Joe Burrow
Speaker 2: we know is stat Paddig. He's absolutely going out there
Speaker 2: on a tier. And I think you can run on
Speaker 2: his Philadelphia Eagles defense. I think if you commit to
Speaker 2: the run, you can absolutely get you some lanes. And
Speaker 2: I think the same thing for the Cincinnati Bengals, which
Speaker 2: is gonna increase more drives, more offense, more touchdowns. I
Speaker 2: think that they're gonna nickel and dime down a field
Speaker 2: and just pick these two defenses apart. So yeah, both
Speaker 2: of these two teams feel like they're a little bit desperate.
Speaker 2: Even though the Philadelphia Eagles are foreign too, I feel
Speaker 2: a little bit of desperation there to put something really
Speaker 2: really good on tape. So I think a good offensive
Speaker 2: showing is good for both of these two teams. I
Speaker 2: love the over forty eight here faint and two bad defenses.
Speaker 1: All right, Andrew, let's talk about the Jaguars and the
Speaker 1: green Bay Packers.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: The Jags finally get out of London after two weeks
Speaker 1: being overseas. The last time we saw them, they put
Speaker 1: up a big number against the Patriots. Jordan Love loves
Speaker 1: to throw the football around, certainly, so they have a
Speaker 1: ton of weapons on their side as well to push totals.
Speaker 1: But the numbers already high at fifty. So where do
Speaker 1: you stand with that?
Speaker 4: I'm taking the under The undertaker strikes again here Jacksonville,
Speaker 4: Green Bay. I just think this number is massive for
Speaker 4: I feel like it's confidence in the Jaguars offense. Oh well,
Speaker 4: they're back, We're here. We're firing at all cylinders because
Speaker 4: we beat the Patriots in London. I don't think that's
Speaker 4: the case green Bay. Their defense has showed up in
Speaker 4: three straight games as accompanied by three straight unders for
Speaker 4: the Green Bay Packers. And when you look at how
Speaker 4: bad this Jaguars defense is overall, well, they play a
Speaker 4: lot of man coverage and this year Jordan Love hasn't
Speaker 4: been great against man coverage, thirty ninth the passer rating,
Speaker 4: forty fifth yards per attempt thirty seventh in castable target rate.
Speaker 4: So I know it's easy to look at the Jaguars
Speaker 4: defense think, oh my god, the Packers here are going
Speaker 4: to absolutely shred. Playing on the road where the Packers
Speaker 4: haven't always showed up necessarily against a bottom dwelling team.
Speaker 3: I think you get.
Speaker 4: Underwelling performance from green Bay here, and I think that
Speaker 4: affects the total in this game. I just think it's
Speaker 4: too large at fifty points based on the fact that
Speaker 4: the Packer's defense is playing much better the last couple
Speaker 4: of weeks against better teams offensively than the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Speaker 4: So I'm not going to buy into one spiked week
Speaker 4: of production from Jacksonville at a couple weeks ago against
Speaker 4: the Colts, where I think green Bay's defenses is solid
Speaker 4: and underrated, So I'm gonna take the under.
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Speaker 1: slash Chat. Let's get back to you here, Terrell. We
Speaker 1: don't have quite clarity as of today's news. Jane Daniels
Speaker 1: was not gonna be practicing. The Bears are coming off
Speaker 1: of Bye Bears are coming off a big victory here.
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams on an upwards for Jet victory, The health
Speaker 1: of the Bears also pretty good except for the defense.
Speaker 1: There are some guys banged up on that side. So
Speaker 1: the number is forty four for this one. We could
Speaker 1: get Mariota, we'll see what happens. But clearly the Panthers
Speaker 1: and the Bears two different football teams here for the Commanders.
Speaker 1: So Commanders in kind of in a driver's sea position
Speaker 1: here just about for this division. This will be a
Speaker 1: tough home loss if they were to take it here.
Speaker 1: But you want to go to the under instead. Let's
Speaker 1: talk about that forty four and why you think this
Speaker 1: one underperforms in terms of total.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I think the Bears defense really found something
Speaker 2: and they're playing really really great football here. They're getting
Speaker 2: to the cornerback, They're getting very very good play from
Speaker 2: the outside, especially Jalen Johnson. The issue here on the
Speaker 2: other side is I'm concerned about is the secondary for
Speaker 2: the Commanders. But how have they kind of hit that
Speaker 2: secondary all season by getting pressure along the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 2: What do the Bears have issues with offensive line play?
Speaker 2: They don't get consistent offensive line play. So if the
Speaker 2: Commanders do what they've been doing all season and continue
Speaker 2: generating pressure, getting Caleb Williams out of the pocket, forcing
Speaker 2: him into those kind of weird throws across his body.
Speaker 2: Like a lot of those throws don't work out in
Speaker 2: his favor. So I think that turnovers could be there.
Speaker 2: I think that they could get sacks on Kaylen Williams.
Speaker 2: I think that we see Kayleb Williams JADEB Daniels, and
Speaker 2: you think forty four, Oh, this should go climb over,
Speaker 2: climb over, climb over.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: I think this is actually more of a defensive game.
Speaker 2: I think this finishes somewhere around twenty to seventeen, twenty
Speaker 2: to ten. So yeah, give me the under forty four here,
Speaker 2: next one.
Speaker 4: Sorry, Joe, I just wanted to ask a question for Trell.
Speaker 4: Do you think that, and this is someone I was
Speaker 4: thinking about when I was looking at this particular game,
Speaker 4: do you think that Cliff Kingsbury having intel right on
Speaker 4: Caleb Williams do you think that helps the Washington Commanders defense.
Speaker 4: Because we saw a couple of weeks ago when the
Speaker 4: Cardinals played the Commanders and Kyler Murray looked lost in
Speaker 4: that match up, obviously again going against a coach that
Speaker 4: knows him very well. Cliff obviously coached Caleb Williams at
Speaker 4: us for a little bit. Do you think that again,
Speaker 4: I'm kind of like, I like the under here, and
Speaker 4: I think that's another layer.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure if you had thought about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it is another layer. Yeah, absolutely another layer,
Speaker 2: and it helps for scout team quarterback and the Scout
Speaker 2: team offense against the defense of Hey, this is what
Speaker 2: this guy likes, this is what he does, and so hey,
Speaker 2: we're gonna go ahead and prepare our defense the best way.
Speaker 2: I may not be out there being able to get
Speaker 2: out on defense and help you, but I can tell
Speaker 2: you everything this guy likes to do and what his
Speaker 2: tendencies are when he makes mistakes, and those tendencies are
Speaker 2: things really that can help us with an under. I
Speaker 2: think that the sacks are going to push them back.
Speaker 2: I think we'll see turnovers on both sides and hopefully
Speaker 2: this game just stays low.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no one knows your weakness is better than your
Speaker 1: old ball coach. Typically that's that's how things go. Andrew,
Speaker 1: we got another Indivision match up here. We've got the
Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts and Houston Texans this week. Now, the number
Speaker 1: on this one's forty six and a half. The last
Speaker 1: time this team's these two teams. Excuse we met twenty
Speaker 1: nine to twenty seven in week one. Now that's week one.
Speaker 1: It's a long time ago. But these teams have had
Speaker 1: some explosive outputs in the past. Again, no Nico Collins
Speaker 1: here for this one. We're not gonna have him. Richardson
Speaker 1: has not looked great, at least in the early going
Speaker 1: of that return. So again, forty six and a half
Speaker 1: feels kind of underwhelming considering the history. But you were
Speaker 1: talking about living in the present, So in the present,
Speaker 1: how do you feel about this total?
Speaker 4: I'm going the under This is the Undertaker show apparently,
Speaker 4: because we're betting all these under except for in the
Speaker 4: Bengals and Eagles, which I'm co signing on all of
Speaker 4: Treil's picks so far. I think for me it's you're
Speaker 4: talking about, Yes, we've seen these offenses be explosive back
Speaker 4: in week one. Well it's week eight, people, we got
Speaker 4: to wake up because when the Texans don't have Nico Collins,
Speaker 4: this affects this offense dramatically. Anthony Richardson has been super
Speaker 4: inconsistent when he's not hitting the moonball shot to Alec Pearce,
Speaker 4: then they're not scoring any type of points. Look at
Speaker 4: Richardson this either, and his four starts are the games
Speaker 4: that he's basically completed the most one and three towards
Speaker 4: the over this year, and the only game that went
Speaker 4: over was Week one against the Houston Texans. So basically
Speaker 4: since then, it's been three straight unders for Anthony Richardson
Speaker 4: as the quarterback. You look at the Texans at home
Speaker 4: this year, three straight unders averaging forty points per game.
Speaker 4: Under forty points per game. So this Texans defense is underrated,
Speaker 4: continues to be. Five of their last six games have
Speaker 4: gone under the projected total. So I don't see a
Speaker 4: reason why I should be backing, well, we're gonna get
Speaker 4: points here. Well, we've been saying to that us about
Speaker 4: this Colts offense for a while now and it just
Speaker 4: hasn't transpired. Houston Texans, like I said, underrated, top five
Speaker 4: and fuse yards per play allowed this season. So until
Speaker 4: we see something different from Anthony Bridgardson, I'm gonna bet
Speaker 4: against him and this offense putting up points.
Speaker 1: All right, Let's move on here to another one on
Speaker 1: the big Marquee games. At least theoretically, the forty nine
Speaker 1: ers who have a ton of injury issues now, No
Speaker 1: Brandon Ayuk, he's out, Deebo Hopefully we'll get healthy. Still
Speaker 1: know Christ McCaffrey, George Kittle not healthy either. So it
Speaker 1: is tough right now for the forty nine ers from
Speaker 1: a health perspective and certainly from a psychological perspective too.
Speaker 1: They a lot like last year's Eagles, don't they, folks?
Speaker 1: Don't they? A team with the burden of losing a
Speaker 1: tough Super Bowl and then having the tough schedule and
Speaker 1: then all the pressure on them. Well, things are not
Speaker 1: going well right now in San Francisco. The Cowboys, you
Speaker 1: can argue, things aren't going much better. So maybe this's
Speaker 1: the perfect time to see the Dallas Cowboys. They're coming
Speaker 1: off a bye though, torell the numbers forty six and
Speaker 1: a half. The last two time these two teams met up,
Speaker 1: forty two ten was the final where the Dallas Cowboys,
Speaker 1: well they got their buck kicked by the forty nine ers,
Speaker 1: but that was a five to zero forty nine Er
Speaker 1: team at the time. So things are a little different
Speaker 1: right now in terms of the confidence level in San Franz.
Speaker 1: So what side of this are you on?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you mentioned and you were heavy on
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers injuries. The Cowboys are just the same,
Speaker 2: like they're injured to who knows what in backend. So
Speaker 2: you're sitting there. We'll see if Michael Parsons goes in
Speaker 2: this game. But ultimately the forty nine ers have still
Speaker 2: found ways to be a competite football team without the injuries.
Speaker 2: I don't know if the Cowboys have. And so the
Speaker 2: rush defense is really the issue here for me. I
Speaker 2: think the forty nine Ers are gonna go down Nickel
Speaker 2: and ball this ball down the field. They're gonna rush
Speaker 2: Jordan Mason into the ground and it's gonna be long
Speaker 2: possessions for the forty nine ers. And I don't think
Speaker 2: the Cowboys offensively have anything to give, Like they just
Speaker 2: do not look good and it looks like they need
Speaker 2: a change. They paid Dack all this money and it
Speaker 2: doesn't seem like he's able to get the ball to
Speaker 2: the receiver that they paid all this money too. So
Speaker 2: with all of that being said, I don't think it's
Speaker 2: gonna be a lot of points. I think this is
Speaker 2: an ugly game with the booth both teams who are
Speaker 2: battered on both sides of the ball. I think the
Speaker 2: forty nine Ers is gonna be able to control the clock,
Speaker 2: have long possessions. We could see a two to three
Speaker 2: possession first quarter here where in seven to nothing and
Speaker 2: so yeah, I like the under forty six here at
Speaker 2: forty six and a half, I think that that's a
Speaker 2: really really good play. I don't expect a lot of points.
Speaker 2: I think this is closer to a seventeen to twenty
Speaker 2: type of game where we really don't see a lot
Speaker 2: of big plays from either one of these sides, but
Speaker 2: just more of a lot of controlling possession, trying not
Speaker 2: to turn the football over and trying to get the
Speaker 2: leg up one of the other.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta tell you, if Parsons plays that, we
Speaker 1: don't know if he's going to I like that under
Speaker 1: even more. You know, you got to get some defensive
Speaker 1: players back going here in the forty nine Ers right now. Look,
Speaker 1: they might still win this division by default the way
Speaker 1: things are going, but this could be at a very
Speaker 1: quick exit for them in the playoffs. Like, yeah, it
Speaker 1: feels a lot like another team last year now, Philadelphia Eagle.
Speaker 1: Every year, it's the same thing every year, the same
Speaker 1: thing happens. Everybody ignores it. They're always the first or
Speaker 1: second team on the board right after the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Whoever lost the Super Bowl? When are we going to learn?
Speaker 1: That's why you listen to this show. That's why you
Speaker 1: subscribed to the channel and the podcast The Raiders. Speaking
Speaker 1: of last time teams met up. The last time, the
Speaker 1: Raiders were underdogs winning the Kansas City at the end
Speaker 1: of last season and absolutely trounce them. Now, the Kansasity
Speaker 1: Chiefs keep finding ways to win games. Patrick Mahomes isn't
Speaker 1: necessarily putting up pretty stat lines except in the W column,
Speaker 1: which at the end of the day, that's all that matters.
Speaker 1: The defense is playing pretty well though. That is the
Speaker 1: thing about Kansas City That Kansiley defense has been very good. Now,
Speaker 1: this is a game they should win, but it is
Speaker 1: a big number here, ten points. Andrew, I guess the
Speaker 1: big question here is at this point is the Kansas
Speaker 1: City Chiefs offense, even if DeAndre Hopkins comes in and
Speaker 1: can play a few snaps for them and get a
Speaker 1: couple of plays in, is there enough explosiveness in this
Speaker 1: offense to reach a double digit cover.
Speaker 3: I don't think so because we haven't seen it.
Speaker 4: Yet again, I am pretty high on Zavier Worthy in fantasy.
Speaker 4: I think that eventually those big players are going to come.
Speaker 4: But this offense isn't trying to blow out teams. They're
Speaker 4: trying to grind it out. Give cream Hunt twenty five carries,
Speaker 4: win by a touchdown, and yeah, that's what we want
Speaker 4: to do. We care about December, we care about January.
Speaker 4: We don't care about as long as we beat the Raiders.
Speaker 4: We don't care how many points to beat them by.
Speaker 4: But I care because I'm betting on the Raiders plus
Speaker 4: ten because they're playing at home. Look at Raiders at
Speaker 4: home against the spread twelve six and one against the
Speaker 4: spread sixty seven percent for three one is home underdogs
Speaker 4: against the spread recently. So this is a team that's
Speaker 4: played ball at home last week. I don't know how
Speaker 4: they were still in that Rams game despite turning the
Speaker 4: ball over seemingly every single possession, Gardner Minshew just throwing
Speaker 4: interception at interception. But you look up and they're still
Speaker 4: in the game. So I think that the Raiders, again
Speaker 4: it's a divisional opponent. They know that the Chiefs aren't
Speaker 4: necessarily firing on all cylinders. So I think they're gonna
Speaker 4: play some inspired football here. Again, we saw them beat
Speaker 4: them on Christmas last year, so it's not for a
Speaker 4: oh whoa, we can't beat the Chiefs were really intimidated.
Speaker 4: They beat them the last time these two teams played.
Speaker 4: So the fact that when you just look at both
Speaker 4: matchups two overall, even in the game at the Raiders
Speaker 4: are lost against Chiefs last year, overall, the Chiefs outscored
Speaker 4: the Raiders forty five to thirty seven in those two matchups.
Speaker 4: That's less than ten points. So and in both those games,
Speaker 4: the Raiders were either tied or winning at halftime. So again,
Speaker 4: my dogs last week were up ten points both of them,
Speaker 4: and then they both got blown out. So I maybe
Speaker 4: putting sprinkling some Kansas City money line if the Raiders
Speaker 4: go up ten nothing again just because I'm to learn
Speaker 4: my lesson. But I do like the Raiders here to
Speaker 4: cover the ten points spread. Carterer Minshew three and three
Speaker 4: against the spread the season, two and oh record against
Speaker 4: the spread on the road as an underdog by more
Speaker 4: than a touchdown.
Speaker 1: So you're both on the big spread on the underdog
Speaker 1: Browns ericson you're on the big time side of the
Speaker 1: points with the Raiders. Terrell, I saw you bopping your
Speaker 1: head in an agreement? Is that true?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: An agreement?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's my question.
Speaker 1: Guys. There's another big spread this week, which is the
Speaker 1: eleven points right now with the Detroit Lions of the
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans. Is that the one that covers, Like the
Speaker 1: Lion's gonna blow out the Titans because one of these
Speaker 1: has to cover?
Speaker 3: You imagine, Yes, I would better.
Speaker 4: I mean, if I'm gonna lay that many points, I
Speaker 4: wanted to be with the Lions.
Speaker 1: So Terrell, are you are you in that vein too?
Speaker 1: Or is that not safe? Either? Is Detroit at home?
Speaker 1: They're five and one. I mean you want to call it,
Speaker 1: but I don't know. Man. The Titans look pretty bad
Speaker 1: and they just turn it Hopkins away, So maybe the
Speaker 1: team starts going, well, I guess we're done. You know
Speaker 1: that happens. I know that happens.
Speaker 2: We all know that defense is good though. Man, I
Speaker 2: like the defenses, but you do have to put points
Speaker 2: on the board. I'm not gonna I'll say Lions, but
Speaker 2: I'm not betting that. No way. I'm here to that
Speaker 2: Titans defense.
Speaker 1: I take the temperature of the room. That's all I
Speaker 1: want to do to roll back to the forty nine
Speaker 1: ers second too, because we talked about the forty six
Speaker 1: and a half. But you've got more feelings about this
Speaker 1: game too, because you seem to think it is going
Speaker 1: to be a little bit one sided for the home team.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean they can. They can one hundred
Speaker 2: percent cover this line up four and a half here
Speaker 2: at home. I think that Jordan Mason is going to
Speaker 2: be the player of the game. I think he's gonna
Speaker 2: run wild. They have amazing running schemes and an amazing
Speaker 2: rushing attack for this forty nine ers team, and I
Speaker 2: think they're gonna lean on that. With all the injuries
Speaker 2: to the outside, you don't you don't know who's gonna
Speaker 2: play on the outside. But yet consistently they found ways
Speaker 2: to run the ball, and consistently the Cowboys if you,
Speaker 2: if they let you, you can run the ball on them.
Speaker 2: Derrick Henry Alvin Kamara had amazing rushing games. The Lions,
Speaker 2: uh David Montgomery and Jamier Gibbs both had a great
Speaker 2: game in that game. You can run the ball on
Speaker 2: the defense. Even if MARKA. Parsons comes back and plays
Speaker 2: this week, that doesn't change my outlook for the run game.
Speaker 2: I think the run game is still going to be
Speaker 2: very very good, So I think they're going to control
Speaker 2: time and possession. I don't trust the Cowboys offense to
Speaker 2: put any points on the board. Even with injuries. The
Speaker 2: forty nine Ers defense has come up big. I think
Speaker 2: the forty nine Ers are going to get this done.
Speaker 2: I'm not believing this Cowboys wave at all.
Speaker 1: All right, ericson counterpoint, Well, Trell, now correct me if
Speaker 1: I'm wrong.
Speaker 4: But didn't you say earlier that this is a twenty
Speaker 4: to seventeen type of game.
Speaker 3: Didn't you say that?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: So that but that's three points then, so how the
Speaker 4: fort Nite is going to cover four and a half
Speaker 4: if they only went.
Speaker 2: I've been wrong before?
Speaker 4: All right, Well, no, that's it baby. Well okay, so
Speaker 4: I'm I'm on the Cowboys side here. This was in
Speaker 4: the early look aheadlines to be like the Cowboys. I
Speaker 4: think that joelex the Cowboys as well. For me, it
Speaker 4: goes back to I think that the Cowboys are gonna
Speaker 4: be healthier coming out of this bye week. Again, we
Speaker 4: don't have all the information right now, but I think
Speaker 4: they're going to be end up healthier. Than the forty
Speaker 4: nine ers, who are looking forward to their bibe. They're
Speaker 4: just trying to get to Week nine because they don't
Speaker 4: have any guys left. So I like Dallas here. They've
Speaker 4: been great on the road, which is very unlike them.
Speaker 4: They're usually a team that is bad on the road
Speaker 4: and plays really well at home. Well, they're three to
Speaker 4: zero on the road and against the spread, and you
Speaker 4: look at the forty nine ers, one of the most
Speaker 4: overrated teams at home, four and nine against the number
Speaker 4: since the start of last season, two and two against
Speaker 4: the spread at home. This year they covered against the
Speaker 4: Jets and the Patriots, and we saw Arizona and Kansas City.
Speaker 3: They didn't cover either of those games.
Speaker 4: So for me, I just think that Dallas, what do
Speaker 4: we learn last year they went on their bye week
Speaker 4: and their offense got fixed.
Speaker 3: Is it guarantee?
Speaker 4: No, But it was the best performance it got from
Speaker 4: him was coming off a bye week.
Speaker 1: So it was the beginning of the CD Lamb crushing
Speaker 1: life too. People wanted to trade him, drop him, like
Speaker 1: it was crazy. They hate on CD Lamb last year
Speaker 1: in the first like six weeks of the season, and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, man those last dead looked pretty good.
Speaker 4: So that's that's what I'm betting on, is that the
Speaker 4: healthier team getting it together at the right time. Where
Speaker 4: the forty nine ers. It just feels like this team
Speaker 4: is reeling right now. It's it's kind of spiraling down
Speaker 4: versus Dallas where I see at least a path where hey,
Speaker 4: maybe they can get these things together and this is
Speaker 4: what kind of springs board springboards them into the second
Speaker 4: half of the year.
Speaker 3: So I'm taking the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: All right, it's time for the upset pick of the week.
Speaker 1: So Terrell's taking the Niners with the points, Andrew is
Speaker 1: going to take the Cowboys with the points. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: wait on this game too. I'm taking the Cowboys straight
Speaker 1: up on the money line. Let's go plus one to
Speaker 1: eighty almost what could go everything? Well, the thing is,
Speaker 1: first of all, it's not at home, which the Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys at home. I don't know this year, this year,
Speaker 1: how about last year? Again we go back to the
Speaker 1: Jordan Love ass kicking in the playoffs while it's still
Speaker 1: this calendar year, but last season, so this team has
Speaker 1: been dreadful at home getting their butt kicked in front
Speaker 1: of Jerry Jones in the skybox every single time out.
Speaker 1: So give me the Dallas Cowboys here to find a
Speaker 1: way with Ceedee Lamb. I think they've heard the noise
Speaker 1: too a little bit again about you know, well, they're
Speaker 1: not running their routes, and they heard the Troy Aikman
Speaker 1: stuff and all these other things. I think maybe just maybe,
Speaker 1: as Andrew said, maybe fixing some things in the bye week.
Speaker 1: Maybe you get Parsons back too. I think Dallas just
Speaker 1: finds a way to win this game. This is a
Speaker 1: four outcome game here, like it's one of those where
Speaker 1: you could see it going blowout either way, really close
Speaker 1: either way. So I'm just gonna lead into the chaos
Speaker 1: this week, and I'm gonna lean into also the mental
Speaker 1: state of the forty nine years because they don't think
Speaker 1: it's good right now. I think it feels like a
Speaker 1: team that's starting to fall apart, and we watch them
Speaker 1: at the end of that game. You saw the frustrations
Speaker 1: with Trent Williams. You saw just guys starting to really
Speaker 1: just lose it. The health of this team, I think
Speaker 1: again a lot like the Eagles last year, where you
Speaker 1: just start falling apart mentally and physically, and that's a combination.
Speaker 1: You just can't bear both of them. That's a lot
Speaker 1: for a team right now. And maybe the Kaffreo'll come
Speaker 1: in a couple weeks and be the savior. We'll find
Speaker 1: out they certainly need a buy in the worst way.
Speaker 1: Next week. God talk about perfect timing for them, just
Speaker 1: clear their head. I think they just need to get
Speaker 1: to the buy and reset. But let's take those Cowboys
Speaker 1: plus one eighty, and also let's take it and put
Speaker 1: it with something else that everybody else seems a little
Speaker 1: afraid of. I'm not go Lions ten and a half.
Speaker 1: I already locked it in there before it moved to
Speaker 1: the eleven. But you might be able to find it
Speaker 1: ten and a half in some other spots. Give me
Speaker 1: the Lions and the Cowboys on the money line. With
Speaker 1: the Lions and the ten and a half, you put
Speaker 1: it together, get plus four point thirty. That's how I
Speaker 1: want to roll this week. Just two simple things. The
Speaker 1: Lions kicking ass and the forty nine ers falling apart.
Speaker 1: Those are two things I feel like have been a
Speaker 1: theme of the twenty twenty four season, So I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna stay on that. So that's how we're betting this week,
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Speaker 1: of Week eight in the NFL. We love to hear
Speaker 1: from you, and I want to know what side of
Speaker 1: the forty nine er Cowboy game youuron, because I'm sure
Speaker 1: you've got opinions. Come on, Cowboys fans, you had a
Speaker 1: bye week to lick your wounds. Now you gotta come out.
Speaker 1: I'll salt you again. Let's go. I'm trying to hype
Speaker 1: you up a little bit. That'll do it for us,
Speaker 1: But the story of the game goes on for Terrell
Speaker 1: Furman and Andrew Erickson. I'm Joey P. We'll see you
Speaker 1: next time. Go boys.
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