1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to betting pros. It's time to place 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: your bets and it's me Joey P joe Pisapia and 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: this is VP NFL. It's time to look at to 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:10,120 Speaker 1: the best bets for a week eight in the NFL. 5 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: Everybody's playing. I don't know why, Why can't we space 6 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: some body weeks out a little bit better than they 7 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:16,959 Speaker 1: have to have everybody off on buys in two weeks. 8 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: It makes no sense to me, but it doesn't matter. 9 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: It's the NFL. So we're gonna bet as much as 10 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: we possibly can today because they're giving us a lot 11 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: of games to bet on, including some huge spreads and 12 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: talking about two huge personalities here, Terrell Furman Andrew Erickson, 13 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: the Undertaker, here with us to make sure that we 14 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: get the best foot forward for a week eight in 15 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 1: the NFL. Terrell, you're going off on a little vacation here. 16 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 1: Are you gonna be able to monitor all your stuff 17 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: as you go international worldwide this weekend? My friend? 18 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely, I have no worries that I'm gonna 19 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 2: be one hundred percent dialed into the slate and enjoying 20 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 2: a little pleasure as well. So nice time for a vacation. 21 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 2: But it doesn't matter. We're coming off a winning week. 22 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 2: I I'm ready to make it suit. 23 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: Terrell's got all those vpms going on, so nobody can 24 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: track him. Nobody knows where he is, what he's doing. 25 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: Ericson the Belichick Bowls this weekend, Jet's Patriots. Howre you 26 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: feeling about this one? 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Start with you, Terrell. The Cleveland Browns are 48 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: gonna start Jamis Winston, Sean Watson. We don't have to 49 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: watch him anymore, So there we go. So what does 50 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:10,959 Speaker 1: this mean here for this enormous spread? Because nine and 51 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: a half is a big number. Andrew and I talked 52 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: about it with Well, I would say not a lot 53 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 1: of ease on Monday Show. So where are we at 54 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: with it now? 55 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean I feel good about it. We seen 56 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 2: this Ravens team over the course of this season. They 57 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 2: have let teams back into games at into games and 58 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 2: have the teams always covered the spread? No, not always, 59 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 2: but they've definitely been reasonable. And this is a large 60 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 2: number for them to try to overcome. And here we 61 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 2: have a Browns team that's reinvigorated without just Deshaun Watson. 62 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 2: The fans are the fans cheered, The fans cheered, and 63 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 2: Jameis Winston went on an epic rant of all time. Afterwards, 64 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 2: you're telling me that you don't want to back a 65 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 2: quarterback like that that's gonna come in and reinvigorate an offense. 66 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 2: And the thing that I think Jameis Winston has going 67 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 2: for him that Deshaun Watson didn't have going for him 68 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 2: is that while Jameis Winston might not make the right 69 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 2: read all the time, at least he gets the ball 70 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 2: out quick. He's gonna throw the ball out, He's not 71 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 2: gonna hold it extra long and make that Ravens defense 72 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,119 Speaker 2: look better. We see the Ravens this season, you can 73 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 2: get over on them in the passing game. We'll see 74 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 2: about Marlon Humphrey this week. But yeah, I'm all over 75 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 2: the Browns. I think this is a sleepy spot where 76 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 2: the Ravens maybe get a win, but this is a 77 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 2: three point football game. 78 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: Ericson our early lean was the Browns and what we 79 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: were talking about this game on Monday together. The take 80 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: that I had was, if inded, we do get Winston 81 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: named the quarterback garbage time Jamis is one of the 82 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: things that can absolutely ruin your day or make your day, 83 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: depending on what side of that you're on, and This 84 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: feels like that perfect insigns where we could be in 85 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: that territory. So you've had a couple of days to 86 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: maridate in it. Where have we landed here on the 87 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Ravens nine getting nine and a half in 88 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: some other markets. 89 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 4: Well, similar to I'm always firing off on bets, Jameis 90 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 4: wins is not going to stop firing in this game. 91 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 4: Whether they're down seventeen to twenty one, twenty four, this 92 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 4: bet will never be dead until the final The clock 93 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 4: had zero zero, zero zero basically. So I feel like 94 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 4: you're gonna be live the entire time because with the 95 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 4: Browns with Jamis Winston, they're not gonna give up. They're 96 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 4: gonna play inspired football in any way they can. They 97 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 4: want to get Nick Chubb as many touchdowns as that 98 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 4: guy can handle. And I think Winston's gonna be able 99 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 4: to improve the offense. I think it's just gonna be 100 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 4: better than Deshaun Watson. So you have a divisional matchup 101 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 4: at home. We've already seen the Ravens play down to 102 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 4: their competition back in Week two. Who they play Las 103 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 4: Vegas Raiders? A team that, oh, what's this team? We 104 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 4: don't really care and they end up losing that game. 105 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 5: Right. 106 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 4: They let Dallas back into the game as well when 107 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 4: they blew them out in the first half. So I 108 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 4: think Cleveland can definitely keep this way closer than the 109 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 4: nine and a half point spread suggests. You look at 110 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 4: Cleveland playing at home eight and four in the money 111 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 4: line at home in the last twelve home games, like 112 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 4: they're a good team when they play in Cleveland. You 113 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 4: have the Ravens big win on Monday night, short week, right, 114 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,679 Speaker 4: So I just think that the Browns are the play 115 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 4: here again, basically a double digit home underdog. 116 00:04:59,040 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 3: The process. 117 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 4: People, this is just a good bet to make on 118 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 4: the Cleveland Browns plus nine and a half. You look 119 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 4: at Jameis Winston a ten point spread and his last 120 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 4: nine starts, he'd be seven to two against the spread 121 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 4: and his last nine starts as a starter, So I 122 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 4: love the Browns as well. 123 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: All right, trail back to one of your picks here. Now, 124 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: the Eagles went in and beat your giants, thrilled to 125 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: a bloody pulp for a couple hours there, So a 126 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: swit for Saquon Parkley as expected, as you know, no 127 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: one's surprised there. Hopefully you had all those Saquon overs. 128 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 1: As we talked about all last week. That was the 129 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 1: theme of last week. Just bet the overs. I wish 130 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 1: I got the two touchdowns. 131 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 2: You could have took all his overs for a beautiful 132 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 2: price of minus two hundred. 133 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. No, no, you put some things together with the touchdown. 134 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 1: You have some plus of money in there. That's what 135 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: I did. I just also got a little greedy and 136 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 1: I went for the two touchdown in the first touchdown 137 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: and also but those didn't quite you know, all hit 138 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: where I wanted to. So let's talk about Bengals Eagles 139 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: this week. The Bengals starting to pull themselves out of 140 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,799 Speaker 1: their doldrums a little bit here. But now again we're 141 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,040 Speaker 1: in a situation where we're facing a better opponent with 142 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles seeming to be back on track a bit. 143 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 1: Health is there for the wide receivers. So the numbers 144 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: forty eight row, considering these two offenses and the weapons 145 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: they have, is this an over? 146 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? I think this is a clear over here. It's 147 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 2: a little short. I think it's just the fact that 148 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 2: neither one of these defenses have been all that inspiring, 149 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 2: and anytime they've had a really good defensive effort. It 150 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 2: was against the New York Giants, so like, I can't 151 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,559 Speaker 2: take that into account. They got the Giants have scored 152 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 2: ten points total between those two teams. No, so that's 153 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 2: not gonna be that's the outlier. I think. Now you 154 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 2: look at dvoaights, both of these two teams towards the 155 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 2: bottom of league in terms of past DVOA. Joe Burrow 156 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 2: we know is stat Paddig. He's absolutely going out there 157 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 2: on a tier. And I think you can run on 158 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 2: his Philadelphia Eagles defense. I think if you commit to 159 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 2: the run, you can absolutely get you some lanes. And 160 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 2: I think the same thing for the Cincinnati Bengals, which 161 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 2: is gonna increase more drives, more offense, more touchdowns. I 162 00:06:57,760 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 2: think that they're gonna nickel and dime down a field 163 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 2: and just pick these two defenses apart. So yeah, both 164 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 2: of these two teams feel like they're a little bit desperate. 165 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 2: Even though the Philadelphia Eagles are foreign too, I feel 166 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 2: a little bit of desperation there to put something really 167 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 2: really good on tape. So I think a good offensive 168 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 2: showing is good for both of these two teams. I 169 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 2: love the over forty eight here faint and two bad defenses. 170 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: All right, Andrew, let's talk about the Jaguars and the 171 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: green Bay Packers. 172 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 2: Now. 173 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: The Jags finally get out of London after two weeks 174 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: being overseas. The last time we saw them, they put 175 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: up a big number against the Patriots. Jordan Love loves 176 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: to throw the football around, certainly, so they have a 177 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: ton of weapons on their side as well to push totals. 178 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: But the numbers already high at fifty. So where do 179 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: you stand with that? 180 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 4: I'm taking the under The undertaker strikes again here Jacksonville, 181 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 4: Green Bay. I just think this number is massive for 182 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 4: I feel like it's confidence in the Jaguars offense. Oh well, 183 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 4: they're back, We're here. We're firing at all cylinders because 184 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 4: we beat the Patriots in London. I don't think that's 185 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 4: the case green Bay. Their defense has showed up in 186 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 4: three straight games as accompanied by three straight unders for 187 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 4: the Green Bay Packers. And when you look at how 188 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 4: bad this Jaguars defense is overall, well, they play a 189 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,679 Speaker 4: lot of man coverage and this year Jordan Love hasn't 190 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 4: been great against man coverage, thirty ninth the passer rating, 191 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 4: forty fifth yards per attempt thirty seventh in castable target rate. 192 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 4: So I know it's easy to look at the Jaguars 193 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 4: defense think, oh my god, the Packers here are going 194 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 4: to absolutely shred. Playing on the road where the Packers 195 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 4: haven't always showed up necessarily against a bottom dwelling team. 196 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 3: I think you get. 197 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 4: Underwelling performance from green Bay here, and I think that 198 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 4: affects the total in this game. I just think it's 199 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 4: too large at fifty points based on the fact that 200 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,719 Speaker 4: the Packer's defense is playing much better the last couple 201 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 4: of weeks against better teams offensively than the Jacksonville Jaguars. 202 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 4: So I'm not going to buy into one spiked week 203 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 4: of production from Jacksonville at a couple weeks ago against 204 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 4: the Colts, where I think green Bay's defenses is solid 205 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 4: and underrated, So I'm gonna take the under. 206 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:57,839 Speaker 1: Andrew Erickson refuses to live in the past, folks. He 207 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,079 Speaker 1: is only living in the present. 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We 228 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: don't have quite clarity as of today's news. Jane Daniels 229 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 1: was not gonna be practicing. The Bears are coming off 230 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: of Bye Bears are coming off a big victory here. 231 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: Caleb Williams on an upwards for Jet victory, The health 232 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 1: of the Bears also pretty good except for the defense. 233 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: There are some guys banged up on that side. So 234 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: the number is forty four for this one. We could 235 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: get Mariota, we'll see what happens. But clearly the Panthers 236 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: and the Bears two different football teams here for the Commanders. 237 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 1: So Commanders in kind of in a driver's sea position 238 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: here just about for this division. This will be a 239 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 1: tough home loss if they were to take it here. 240 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 1: But you want to go to the under instead. Let's 241 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: talk about that forty four and why you think this 242 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: one underperforms in terms of total. 243 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I think the Bears defense really found something 244 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 2: and they're playing really really great football here. They're getting 245 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 2: to the cornerback, They're getting very very good play from 246 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 2: the outside, especially Jalen Johnson. The issue here on the 247 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 2: other side is I'm concerned about is the secondary for 248 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 2: the Commanders. But how have they kind of hit that 249 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 2: secondary all season by getting pressure along the line of scrimmage. 250 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 2: What do the Bears have issues with offensive line play? 251 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 2: They don't get consistent offensive line play. So if the 252 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 2: Commanders do what they've been doing all season and continue 253 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,079 Speaker 2: generating pressure, getting Caleb Williams out of the pocket, forcing 254 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 2: him into those kind of weird throws across his body. 255 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 2: Like a lot of those throws don't work out in 256 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 2: his favor. So I think that turnovers could be there. 257 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 2: I think that they could get sacks on Kaylen Williams. 258 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,679 Speaker 2: I think that we see Kayleb Williams JADEB Daniels, and 259 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 2: you think forty four, Oh, this should go climb over, 260 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 2: climb over, climb over. 261 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: No. 262 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 2: I think this is actually more of a defensive game. 263 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 2: I think this finishes somewhere around twenty to seventeen, twenty 264 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 2: to ten. So yeah, give me the under forty four here, 265 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 2: next one. 266 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 4: Sorry, Joe, I just wanted to ask a question for Trell. 267 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 4: Do you think that, and this is someone I was 268 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 4: thinking about when I was looking at this particular game, 269 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 4: do you think that Cliff Kingsbury having intel right on 270 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 4: Caleb Williams do you think that helps the Washington Commanders defense. 271 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 4: Because we saw a couple of weeks ago when the 272 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 4: Cardinals played the Commanders and Kyler Murray looked lost in 273 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 4: that match up, obviously again going against a coach that 274 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 4: knows him very well. Cliff obviously coached Caleb Williams at 275 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 4: us for a little bit. Do you think that again, 276 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 4: I'm kind of like, I like the under here, and 277 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 4: I think that's another layer. 278 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 3: I'm not sure if you had thought about that. 279 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it is another layer. Yeah, absolutely another layer, 280 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 2: and it helps for scout team quarterback and the Scout 281 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 2: team offense against the defense of Hey, this is what 282 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 2: this guy likes, this is what he does, and so hey, 283 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 2: we're gonna go ahead and prepare our defense the best way. 284 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 2: I may not be out there being able to get 285 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 2: out on defense and help you, but I can tell 286 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 2: you everything this guy likes to do and what his 287 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 2: tendencies are when he makes mistakes, and those tendencies are 288 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 2: things really that can help us with an under. I 289 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 2: think that the sacks are going to push them back. 290 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 2: I think we'll see turnovers on both sides and hopefully 291 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 2: this game just stays low. 292 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, no one knows your weakness is better than your 293 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:42,439 Speaker 1: old ball coach. Typically that's that's how things go. Andrew, 294 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,199 Speaker 1: we got another Indivision match up here. We've got the 295 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts and Houston Texans this week. Now, the number 296 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: on this one's forty six and a half. The last 297 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: time this team's these two teams. Excuse we met twenty 298 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 1: nine to twenty seven in week one. Now that's week one. 299 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 1: It's a long time ago. But these teams have had 300 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 1: some explosive outputs in the past. Again, no Nico Collins 301 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: here for this one. We're not gonna have him. Richardson 302 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 1: has not looked great, at least in the early going 303 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 1: of that return. So again, forty six and a half 304 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 1: feels kind of underwhelming considering the history. But you were 305 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: talking about living in the present, So in the present, 306 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: how do you feel about this total? 307 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 4: I'm going the under This is the Undertaker show apparently, 308 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 4: because we're betting all these under except for in the 309 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 4: Bengals and Eagles, which I'm co signing on all of 310 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 4: Treil's picks so far. I think for me it's you're 311 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 4: talking about, Yes, we've seen these offenses be explosive back 312 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 4: in week one. Well it's week eight, people, we got 313 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 4: to wake up because when the Texans don't have Nico Collins, 314 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 4: this affects this offense dramatically. Anthony Richardson has been super 315 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 4: inconsistent when he's not hitting the moonball shot to Alec Pearce, 316 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 4: then they're not scoring any type of points. Look at 317 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 4: Richardson this either, and his four starts are the games 318 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 4: that he's basically completed the most one and three towards 319 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 4: the over this year, and the only game that went 320 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 4: over was Week one against the Houston Texans. So basically 321 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 4: since then, it's been three straight unders for Anthony Richardson 322 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 4: as the quarterback. You look at the Texans at home 323 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 4: this year, three straight unders averaging forty points per game. 324 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 4: Under forty points per game. So this Texans defense is underrated, 325 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 4: continues to be. Five of their last six games have 326 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 4: gone under the projected total. So I don't see a 327 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 4: reason why I should be backing, well, we're gonna get 328 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 4: points here. Well, we've been saying to that us about 329 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 4: this Colts offense for a while now and it just 330 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 4: hasn't transpired. Houston Texans, like I said, underrated, top five 331 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 4: and fuse yards per play allowed this season. So until 332 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 4: we see something different from Anthony Bridgardson, I'm gonna bet 333 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 4: against him and this offense putting up points. 334 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: All right, Let's move on here to another one on 335 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: the big Marquee games. At least theoretically, the forty nine 336 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: ers who have a ton of injury issues now, No 337 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: Brandon Ayuk, he's out, Deebo Hopefully we'll get healthy. Still 338 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: know Christ McCaffrey, George Kittle not healthy either. So it 339 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: is tough right now for the forty nine ers from 340 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: a health perspective and certainly from a psychological perspective too. 341 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: They a lot like last year's Eagles, don't they, folks? 342 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: Don't they? A team with the burden of losing a 343 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: tough Super Bowl and then having the tough schedule and 344 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: then all the pressure on them. Well, things are not 345 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: going well right now in San Francisco. The Cowboys, you 346 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: can argue, things aren't going much better. So maybe this's 347 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: the perfect time to see the Dallas Cowboys. They're coming 348 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: off a bye though, torell the numbers forty six and 349 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: a half. The last two time these two teams met up, 350 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: forty two ten was the final where the Dallas Cowboys, 351 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: well they got their buck kicked by the forty nine ers, 352 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: but that was a five to zero forty nine Er 353 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: team at the time. So things are a little different 354 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: right now in terms of the confidence level in San Franz. 355 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: So what side of this are you on? 356 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you mentioned and you were heavy on 357 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 2: the forty nine ers injuries. The Cowboys are just the same, 358 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 2: like they're injured to who knows what in backend. So 359 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 2: you're sitting there. We'll see if Michael Parsons goes in 360 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 2: this game. But ultimately the forty nine ers have still 361 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 2: found ways to be a competite football team without the injuries. 362 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 2: I don't know if the Cowboys have. And so the 363 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 2: rush defense is really the issue here for me. I 364 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 2: think the forty nine Ers are gonna go down Nickel 365 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 2: and ball this ball down the field. They're gonna rush 366 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 2: Jordan Mason into the ground and it's gonna be long 367 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 2: possessions for the forty nine ers. And I don't think 368 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 2: the Cowboys offensively have anything to give, Like they just 369 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 2: do not look good and it looks like they need 370 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 2: a change. They paid Dack all this money and it 371 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 2: doesn't seem like he's able to get the ball to 372 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 2: the receiver that they paid all this money too. So 373 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 2: with all of that being said, I don't think it's 374 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 2: gonna be a lot of points. I think this is 375 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 2: an ugly game with the booth both teams who are 376 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 2: battered on both sides of the ball. I think the 377 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 2: forty nine Ers is gonna be able to control the clock, 378 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 2: have long possessions. We could see a two to three 379 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 2: possession first quarter here where in seven to nothing and 380 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 2: so yeah, I like the under forty six here at 381 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 2: forty six and a half, I think that that's a 382 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 2: really really good play. I don't expect a lot of points. 383 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 2: I think this is closer to a seventeen to twenty 384 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 2: type of game where we really don't see a lot 385 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 2: of big plays from either one of these sides, but 386 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 2: just more of a lot of controlling possession, trying not 387 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 2: to turn the football over and trying to get the 388 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:09,880 Speaker 2: leg up one of the other. 389 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta tell you, if Parsons plays that, we 390 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: don't know if he's going to I like that under 391 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: even more. You know, you got to get some defensive 392 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: players back going here in the forty nine Ers right now. Look, 393 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: they might still win this division by default the way 394 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: things are going, but this could be at a very 395 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 1: quick exit for them in the playoffs. Like, yeah, it 396 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: feels a lot like another team last year now, Philadelphia Eagle. 397 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: Every year, it's the same thing every year, the same 398 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: thing happens. Everybody ignores it. They're always the first or 399 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: second team on the board right after the Super Bowl. 400 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 1: Whoever lost the Super Bowl? When are we going to learn? 401 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: That's why you listen to this show. That's why you 402 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 1: subscribed to the channel and the podcast The Raiders. Speaking 403 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: of last time teams met up. The last time, the 404 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: Raiders were underdogs winning the Kansas City at the end 405 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 1: of last season and absolutely trounce them. Now, the Kansasity 406 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: Chiefs keep finding ways to win games. Patrick Mahomes isn't 407 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: necessarily putting up pretty stat lines except in the W column, 408 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,479 Speaker 1: which at the end of the day, that's all that matters. 409 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: The defense is playing pretty well though. That is the 410 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: thing about Kansas City That Kansiley defense has been very good. Now, 411 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 1: this is a game they should win, but it is 412 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,679 Speaker 1: a big number here, ten points. Andrew, I guess the 413 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 1: big question here is at this point is the Kansas 414 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: City Chiefs offense, even if DeAndre Hopkins comes in and 415 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: can play a few snaps for them and get a 416 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:25,439 Speaker 1: couple of plays in, is there enough explosiveness in this 417 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,640 Speaker 1: offense to reach a double digit cover. 418 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,199 Speaker 3: I don't think so because we haven't seen it. 419 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 4: Yet again, I am pretty high on Zavier Worthy in fantasy. 420 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 4: I think that eventually those big players are going to come. 421 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 4: But this offense isn't trying to blow out teams. They're 422 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 4: trying to grind it out. Give cream Hunt twenty five carries, 423 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 4: win by a touchdown, and yeah, that's what we want 424 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 4: to do. We care about December, we care about January. 425 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 4: We don't care about as long as we beat the Raiders. 426 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 4: We don't care how many points to beat them by. 427 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 4: But I care because I'm betting on the Raiders plus 428 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 4: ten because they're playing at home. Look at Raiders at 429 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 4: home against the spread twelve six and one against the 430 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 4: spread sixty seven percent for three one is home underdogs 431 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 4: against the spread recently. So this is a team that's 432 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 4: played ball at home last week. I don't know how 433 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 4: they were still in that Rams game despite turning the 434 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 4: ball over seemingly every single possession, Gardner Minshew just throwing 435 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 4: interception at interception. But you look up and they're still 436 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 4: in the game. So I think that the Raiders, again 437 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 4: it's a divisional opponent. They know that the Chiefs aren't 438 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 4: necessarily firing on all cylinders. So I think they're gonna 439 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 4: play some inspired football here. Again, we saw them beat 440 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 4: them on Christmas last year, so it's not for a 441 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 4: oh whoa, we can't beat the Chiefs were really intimidated. 442 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 4: They beat them the last time these two teams played. 443 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 4: So the fact that when you just look at both 444 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 4: matchups two overall, even in the game at the Raiders 445 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 4: are lost against Chiefs last year, overall, the Chiefs outscored 446 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 4: the Raiders forty five to thirty seven in those two matchups. 447 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 4: That's less than ten points. So and in both those games, 448 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 4: the Raiders were either tied or winning at halftime. So again, 449 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 4: my dogs last week were up ten points both of them, 450 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 4: and then they both got blown out. So I maybe 451 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 4: putting sprinkling some Kansas City money line if the Raiders 452 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 4: go up ten nothing again just because I'm to learn 453 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 4: my lesson. But I do like the Raiders here to 454 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 4: cover the ten points spread. Carterer Minshew three and three 455 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 4: against the spread the season, two and oh record against 456 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:09,479 Speaker 4: the spread on the road as an underdog by more 457 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 4: than a touchdown. 458 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: So you're both on the big spread on the underdog 459 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 1: Browns ericson you're on the big time side of the 460 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 1: points with the Raiders. Terrell, I saw you bopping your 461 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: head in an agreement? Is that true? 462 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? 463 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: An agreement? 464 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's my question. 465 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: Guys. There's another big spread this week, which is the 466 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: eleven points right now with the Detroit Lions of the 467 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans. Is that the one that covers, Like the 468 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 1: Lion's gonna blow out the Titans because one of these 469 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: has to cover? 470 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 3: You imagine, Yes, I would better. 471 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 4: I mean, if I'm gonna lay that many points, I 472 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 4: wanted to be with the Lions. 473 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: So Terrell, are you are you in that vein too? 474 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: Or is that not safe? Either? Is Detroit at home? 475 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: They're five and one. I mean you want to call it, 476 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 1: but I don't know. Man. The Titans look pretty bad 477 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: and they just turn it Hopkins away, So maybe the 478 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: team starts going, well, I guess we're done. You know 479 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: that happens. I know that happens. 480 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 2: We all know that defense is good though. Man, I 481 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 2: like the defenses, but you do have to put points 482 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 2: on the board. I'm not gonna I'll say Lions, but 483 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 2: I'm not betting that. No way. I'm here to that 484 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 2: Titans defense. 485 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 1: I take the temperature of the room. That's all I 486 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: want to do to roll back to the forty nine 487 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:15,959 Speaker 1: ers second too, because we talked about the forty six 488 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: and a half. But you've got more feelings about this 489 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: game too, because you seem to think it is going 490 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: to be a little bit one sided for the home team. 491 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean they can. They can one hundred 492 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 2: percent cover this line up four and a half here 493 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 2: at home. I think that Jordan Mason is going to 494 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 2: be the player of the game. I think he's gonna 495 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 2: run wild. They have amazing running schemes and an amazing 496 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 2: rushing attack for this forty nine ers team, and I 497 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 2: think they're gonna lean on that. With all the injuries 498 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 2: to the outside, you don't you don't know who's gonna 499 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 2: play on the outside. But yet consistently they found ways 500 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 2: to run the ball, and consistently the Cowboys if you, 501 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 2: if they let you, you can run the ball on them. 502 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 2: Derrick Henry Alvin Kamara had amazing rushing games. The Lions, 503 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 2: uh David Montgomery and Jamier Gibbs both had a great 504 00:21:57,960 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 2: game in that game. You can run the ball on 505 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 2: the defense. Even if MARKA. Parsons comes back and plays 506 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 2: this week, that doesn't change my outlook for the run game. 507 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 2: I think the run game is still going to be 508 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 2: very very good, So I think they're going to control 509 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 2: time and possession. I don't trust the Cowboys offense to 510 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 2: put any points on the board. Even with injuries. The 511 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 2: forty nine Ers defense has come up big. I think 512 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 2: the forty nine Ers are going to get this done. 513 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 2: I'm not believing this Cowboys wave at all. 514 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: All right, ericson counterpoint, Well, Trell, now correct me if 515 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:25,880 Speaker 1: I'm wrong. 516 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 4: But didn't you say earlier that this is a twenty 517 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 4: to seventeen type of game. 518 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 3: Didn't you say that? 519 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 2: Yeah? 520 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 4: So that but that's three points then, so how the 521 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 4: fort Nite is going to cover four and a half 522 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 4: if they only went. 523 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 2: I've been wrong before? 524 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 4: All right, Well, no, that's it baby. Well okay, so 525 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 4: I'm I'm on the Cowboys side here. This was in 526 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 4: the early look aheadlines to be like the Cowboys. I 527 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 4: think that joelex the Cowboys as well. For me, it 528 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 4: goes back to I think that the Cowboys are gonna 529 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 4: be healthier coming out of this bye week. Again, we 530 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 4: don't have all the information right now, but I think 531 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 4: they're going to be end up healthier. Than the forty 532 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 4: nine ers, who are looking forward to their bibe. They're 533 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 4: just trying to get to Week nine because they don't 534 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 4: have any guys left. So I like Dallas here. They've 535 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 4: been great on the road, which is very unlike them. 536 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 4: They're usually a team that is bad on the road 537 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 4: and plays really well at home. Well, they're three to 538 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 4: zero on the road and against the spread, and you 539 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 4: look at the forty nine ers, one of the most 540 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 4: overrated teams at home, four and nine against the number 541 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 4: since the start of last season, two and two against 542 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 4: the spread at home. This year they covered against the 543 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 4: Jets and the Patriots, and we saw Arizona and Kansas City. 544 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 3: They didn't cover either of those games. 545 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 4: So for me, I just think that Dallas, what do 546 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 4: we learn last year they went on their bye week 547 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 4: and their offense got fixed. 548 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 3: Is it guarantee? 549 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,199 Speaker 4: No, But it was the best performance it got from 550 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 4: him was coming off a bye week. 551 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: So it was the beginning of the CD Lamb crushing 552 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: life too. People wanted to trade him, drop him, like 553 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: it was crazy. They hate on CD Lamb last year 554 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: in the first like six weeks of the season, and 555 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, man those last dead looked pretty good. 556 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 4: So that's that's what I'm betting on, is that the 557 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 4: healthier team getting it together at the right time. Where 558 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 4: the forty nine ers. It just feels like this team 559 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 4: is reeling right now. It's it's kind of spiraling down 560 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 4: versus Dallas where I see at least a path where hey, 561 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 4: maybe they can get these things together and this is 562 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 4: what kind of springs board springboards them into the second 563 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 4: half of the year. 564 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 3: So I'm taking the Cowboys. 565 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: All right, it's time for the upset pick of the week. 566 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: So Terrell's taking the Niners with the points, Andrew is 567 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 1: going to take the Cowboys with the points. I'm gonna 568 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: wait on this game too. I'm taking the Cowboys straight 569 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 1: up on the money line. Let's go plus one to 570 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 1: eighty almost what could go everything? Well, the thing is, 571 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,919 Speaker 1: first of all, it's not at home, which the Dallas 572 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: Cowboys at home. I don't know this year, this year, 573 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: how about last year? Again we go back to the 574 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: Jordan Love ass kicking in the playoffs while it's still 575 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,239 Speaker 1: this calendar year, but last season, so this team has 576 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: been dreadful at home getting their butt kicked in front 577 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: of Jerry Jones in the skybox every single time out. 578 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: So give me the Dallas Cowboys here to find a 579 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 1: way with Ceedee Lamb. I think they've heard the noise 580 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: too a little bit again about you know, well, they're 581 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 1: not running their routes, and they heard the Troy Aikman 582 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: stuff and all these other things. I think maybe just maybe, 583 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: as Andrew said, maybe fixing some things in the bye week. 584 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,199 Speaker 1: Maybe you get Parsons back too. I think Dallas just 585 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: finds a way to win this game. This is a 586 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: four outcome game here, like it's one of those where 587 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 1: you could see it going blowout either way, really close 588 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 1: either way. So I'm just gonna lead into the chaos 589 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: this week, and I'm gonna lean into also the mental 590 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: state of the forty nine years because they don't think 591 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 1: it's good right now. I think it feels like a 592 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,959 Speaker 1: team that's starting to fall apart, and we watch them 593 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 1: at the end of that game. You saw the frustrations 594 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: with Trent Williams. You saw just guys starting to really 595 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: just lose it. The health of this team, I think 596 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 1: again a lot like the Eagles last year, where you 597 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: just start falling apart mentally and physically, and that's a combination. 598 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,640 Speaker 1: You just can't bear both of them. That's a lot 599 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 1: for a team right now. And maybe the Kaffreo'll come 600 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: in a couple weeks and be the savior. We'll find 601 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: out they certainly need a buy in the worst way. 602 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: Next week. God talk about perfect timing for them, just 603 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: clear their head. I think they just need to get 604 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 1: to the buy and reset. But let's take those Cowboys 605 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: plus one eighty, and also let's take it and put 606 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 1: it with something else that everybody else seems a little 607 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: afraid of. I'm not go Lions ten and a half. 608 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: I already locked it in there before it moved to 609 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 1: the eleven. But you might be able to find it 610 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: ten and a half in some other spots. Give me 611 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 1: the Lions and the Cowboys on the money line. With 612 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: the Lions and the ten and a half, you put 613 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: it together, get plus four point thirty. That's how I 614 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: want to roll this week. Just two simple things. The 615 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: Lions kicking ass and the forty nine ers falling apart. 616 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 1: Those are two things I feel like have been a 617 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: theme of the twenty twenty four season, So I'm just 618 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 1: gonna stay on that. So that's how we're betting this week, 619 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 1: make sure you hang out with us and continue to 620 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: use that Betting Pros up again. Use that promo code 621 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 1: FP three. If you're a first time downloader, could follow 622 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 1: us too on there once you download it. 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