WEBVTT - Plot Twist Proposal 0:00:00.760 --> 0:00:03.800 This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 0:00:03.840 --> 0:00:08.119 with her radio. It is a very special episode of 0:00:08.160 --> 0:00:12.280 the almost Famous podcast. I'm here and my co host 0:00:12.560 --> 0:00:17.520 the Beautiful, the Wonderful Ashley. How you doing, the Beautiful, 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:21.120 the Wonderful Ben Higgins? I am doing quite well today. 0:00:21.239 --> 0:00:23.680 How are you doing? Actually? Can I tell your story? 0:00:23.760 --> 0:00:26.120 This is just gonna start out as a ramble because 0:00:26.120 --> 0:00:29.200 I use the word quite. I'm here to listen, Okay, 0:00:29.480 --> 0:00:32.000 my sister is staying with me. I am the kind 0:00:32.040 --> 0:00:36.960 of person who literally cannot stand getting rid of things 0:00:36.960 --> 0:00:40.159 in the fridge. I hate wasting food. I hate spending 0:00:40.200 --> 0:00:43.159 money on food when we have food in the fridge, 0:00:43.240 --> 0:00:46.320 But mostly I hate wasting food, like you know that 0:00:46.400 --> 0:00:48.159 little thing that your grandma would say, you know, there 0:00:48.159 --> 0:00:50.880 are people starving in another country right now. You eat 0:00:50.880 --> 0:00:56.480 your food always comes back to me. M hmm. And 0:00:56.520 --> 0:00:59.279 the other day she was looking for like kind of 0:00:59.280 --> 0:01:02.560 a a ten pm snack. You know, she'd already had dinner, 0:01:02.640 --> 0:01:04.399 but it was early and she was hungry again. And 0:01:04.440 --> 0:01:06.680 she was like, Ashley, came here, tell me what was 0:01:06.800 --> 0:01:10.119 actually edible in your fridge, Like what is not outdated? 0:01:12.520 --> 0:01:15.919 And before I tell you what, I considered not outdated. 0:01:16.280 --> 0:01:20.000 What do you ben consider to be outdated food? Like 0:01:20.040 --> 0:01:23.240 at what day do you stop eating leftovers? Oh, it's 0:01:23.280 --> 0:01:25.760 I mean, that's that's a tough question. It's dependent on 0:01:25.880 --> 0:01:29.240 what food we're talking about. Like if we're talking about, um, 0:01:29.280 --> 0:01:32.240 if we're talking about a cheese, I'll typically look for 0:01:32.280 --> 0:01:34.760 a mold. If we're talking about a milk, I don't 0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:38.800 mess with milk like expired milk. If we're talking about meat, 0:01:38.840 --> 0:01:42.360 I don't mess with expired me um, I'm I'll push 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:46.360 like best by date by a few days. Um, but 0:01:46.440 --> 0:01:49.000 you can. But like those things you don't mess with. 0:01:49.160 --> 0:01:51.360 Fruit goes bad so fast that you're either gonna eat 0:01:51.360 --> 0:01:54.920 it or you're not. Vegetables the same thing. Um, So 0:01:54.920 --> 0:01:59.400 you gotta give me a category because most things, like 0:01:59.520 --> 0:02:02.680 I grew up am I like I came from a 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:08.520 really like like cushy life like my you know, northern 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:14.440 Indiana middle class um like because but we always bought 0:02:14.520 --> 0:02:16.800 like we went to the grocery store in town that 0:02:16.840 --> 0:02:19.960 had the like Dale bread and like it just like 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:21.480 it was the thing I grew up with. Is like, hey, 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:24.399 no matter where you're at in life, you're gonna not 0:02:24.520 --> 0:02:29.120 like over indulge on stuff that's just just as good, 0:02:29.160 --> 0:02:31.960 and so I've always kind of pushed it. I guess 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:33.680 I've never gotten sick. I don't I don't want to 0:02:33.680 --> 0:02:35.880 do I don't want to walk to that alley. Yeah. 0:02:36.080 --> 0:02:38.760 Like if the jelly says that it expired in April, 0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:41.720 I'm still eating it through May. Sure. Yeah there's preserve 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:45.040 I mean there's preservatives in that, yeah, of course. Okay. 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:47.840 So what I'm talking about is like restaurant leftovers or 0:02:47.880 --> 0:02:50.800 like you make dinner leftovers, and and if it's meat, 0:02:52.840 --> 0:02:54.920 they probably tell you that on the internet to do 0:02:54.960 --> 0:02:58.840 it like two to three days. I'm probably okay with 0:02:59.120 --> 0:03:02.000 It's like if there's like chicken tenders, I'll probably throw 0:03:02.080 --> 0:03:03.880 the chicken tenders in the air fry or four days 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:07.239 later and I'll make it crispy again. A right, Yeah, 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:10.200 I'm pushing a week on left Okay, I'm playing. Okay, 0:03:10.280 --> 0:03:12.040 I'm glad that you said that, because I'm pushing a 0:03:12.040 --> 0:03:16.480 week too. I probably six days. I had some Chinese 0:03:16.560 --> 0:03:18.640 food that I got Monday and I ate it Friday, 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:23.040 and I wasn't feeling like that was bad. Um, so 0:03:23.080 --> 0:03:25.040 that when I tell you that, I told her that 0:03:25.080 --> 0:03:30.239 the spaghetti in the fridge was quite fresh, which I'll 0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:34.519 say it probably wasn't quite fresh, but it was totally 0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:37.160 edible and fine. How many days do you think it 0:03:37.240 --> 0:03:42.400 was in there? Three? Okay, it was. It was made 0:03:42.560 --> 0:03:45.640 on it was, it was made on Monday, and it 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:52.440 was Saturday. Yeah, six, five, five to six days, five 0:03:52.480 --> 0:03:55.440 to six days. I mean, it's not gonna taste great. 0:03:55.480 --> 0:04:00.400 There's nothing spaghetti. There's nothing to be poisonous. Is nothing 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:04.880 in a spaghetti it's cooked me. Uh, it wasn't even meat. 0:04:05.040 --> 0:04:07.440 It just red sauce, just playing on tomato sauce. Oh 0:04:07.520 --> 0:04:11.280 geez that. Yeah, you're you're you're You're not even cooking 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:13.920 with gasoline there. You're just good like you're just you're 0:04:13.960 --> 0:04:20.840 just solid. Keep She demoralized me. She thought it was 0:04:21.279 --> 0:04:25.599 so obscene for me to offer her my sister six 0:04:25.680 --> 0:04:28.560 days spaghetti. I'm not offering a guest to come over 0:04:28.600 --> 0:04:32.320 and eat my six day spaghetti, but my sister. Come on, no, 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:36.320 I mean no, I I would it a matter of 0:04:36.360 --> 0:04:39.080 season of life too. Like I remember in college, my 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:41.560 buddies would have like pizza laying out for two full 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:43.800 days and I would grab a slice it would be 0:04:43.839 --> 0:04:45.599 like hard, and the cheese would kind of be like 0:04:45.600 --> 0:04:49.560 a plastic cover depending on what obviously company you got 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:54.200 your pizza from. And like, that's not even in the refrigerator. 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:57.440 I mean that that thing is just full of anything. 0:04:58.320 --> 0:05:00.160 And I would found a couple of pieces of It's 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:03.520 a no problem. Okay, thank you so much. You know 0:05:03.560 --> 0:05:06.279 what's really funny and kind of ironic about this, Jared 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:09.200 comes home from work two hours later. I come downstairs 0:05:09.240 --> 0:05:11.239 and like, what are you doing? He's like just having 0:05:11.279 --> 0:05:13.680 some spaghetti. And then I was like, I will join 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:16.279 you in that. And then he and I both ate 0:05:16.440 --> 0:05:19.239 the five distincts day old spaghetti. How do you feel? 0:05:20.040 --> 0:05:22.359 We feel great? And then I threw it out afterwards 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:25.360 the remainder and Ben, look what I got in here? 0:05:25.400 --> 0:05:29.840 I got a little generous coffee. The generous coffee in here. Well, 0:05:30.160 --> 0:05:33.400 I'm very thankful you're drinking generous coffee. Even if you 0:05:33.480 --> 0:05:36.400 had an upset stomach, even if your body wasn't functioning 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:39.400 at a hundred percent after your six day old spaghetti, 0:05:39.440 --> 0:05:41.880 I promise you generous coffee would kick you right back 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:45.720 into gear. It's it's like medicinal. I can't make that 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:50.279 claim probably publicly, it's public illegal, but it's good coffee. Actually, 0:05:50.640 --> 0:05:54.280 it was a long weekend for so many people. We do, uh, 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:56.400 I mean I I do, and I know you do. 0:05:56.480 --> 0:05:58.640 Want to sit here and just say, you know, I 0:05:59.600 --> 0:06:04.920 know based on even my high school college. Um, then 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:08.760 we can go into the elderly people who have passed, 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:14.080 uh serving our country. Um, serving our country, so that 0:06:14.120 --> 0:06:16.520 we could sit here and talk like we do and 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:18.760 say the things we do and even have the option 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:22.960 to go to a grocery store and buy food. UM. 0:06:23.000 --> 0:06:25.120 So I hope this Memorial Day was a day for 0:06:25.160 --> 0:06:27.800 so many of us. I know it's a chaotic time 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:30.880 in the world, and I know that right now, um, 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:33.960 the wars and the rumors of wars and our opinions 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:38.680 on war are have you know, definitely divided the country 0:06:38.760 --> 0:06:40.479 or there's a lot of different things. But no matter what, 0:06:40.680 --> 0:06:43.160 we can I think sit here and say hey, thank 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:46.839 you to those who are serving our country and whatever capacity, 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:49.160 and and and definitely a Memorial Day is a day 0:06:49.160 --> 0:06:52.120 to recognize those who have passed serving our country and 0:06:52.200 --> 0:06:55.400 so UM with that, I just want to say thank 0:06:55.440 --> 0:06:58.239 you to to the families who have lost loved ones 0:06:59.000 --> 0:07:02.720 who probably listened of this because there's many um, and 0:07:02.800 --> 0:07:06.640 I hope yesterday was a day of celebration and remembrance 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:11.080 for the lives. Thank you so much, thank you, thank you, 0:07:11.120 --> 0:07:13.840 thank you. Um Ben, do you have anybody in your 0:07:13.880 --> 0:07:16.920 family who served in a big war? Oh yeah, I 0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:19.520 mean you gotta think that you would be from like 0:07:19.560 --> 0:07:22.080 a sort of military family. Yeah, well you gotta think. 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:25.120 We're talking like my grandpa just passed away, who was 0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:29.080 nineties six, and so World War two, um was something 0:07:29.080 --> 0:07:32.440 that like was not an option for most people, and 0:07:32.440 --> 0:07:35.440 so he served in World War two. Um. One of 0:07:35.440 --> 0:07:37.920 my best friends in high school is still serving in 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:42.640 the military. Um. I have Jessica's best friend's husband is 0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:45.000 in the Navy still to this day, in a very 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:49.679 high ranking position. UM. But my family, yes, of course, 0:07:49.800 --> 0:07:52.320 Like you know, you had the Vietnam War in between 0:07:52.400 --> 0:07:55.520 World War two, um, and then you just had all 0:07:55.560 --> 0:07:59.560 the I actually didn't have anybody close to me my family, 0:07:59.600 --> 0:08:03.360 I think day based on age and probably choice. Uh, 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:06.440 you know, serve in Afghanistan. I don't know if anybody, 0:08:06.760 --> 0:08:10.240 um who is currently in the military within my family. 0:08:10.320 --> 0:08:13.560 But yeah, of course my grandpa is the best example. 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:16.760 It was a lot of his stories came from those times, 0:08:16.760 --> 0:08:20.280 good and bad. Yes, my grandpa he fought indeed day 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:22.360 like he was there on the beaches of Norman Day. 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:24.880 And this is so crazy to think, like would I 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:29.480 you know you just like, would you be here? Yeah, no, 0:08:29.760 --> 0:08:32.240 you would not be I can promise you that if 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:36.640 if things would have gone different. Um, so yeah, yes, 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:40.680 a Memorial Day is always uh a day for me 0:08:42.160 --> 0:08:44.040 because I do I put myself in those shoes, and 0:08:44.040 --> 0:08:45.440 I think so many people do too. If you just 0:08:45.440 --> 0:08:46.920 take a second, like it's a it's a fun day 0:08:46.960 --> 0:08:48.160 because we get the day off of work and you 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:50.840 get to cook out. And usually people travel and gather 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:53.520 and camp and hike and go by the pool and 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:54.719 this is the first day of the you know, the 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:57.120 lakes really open up and all that stuff. But I 0:08:57.480 --> 0:09:01.040 oftentimes asked myself, Um, you know, I'm thirty three now, 0:09:01.040 --> 0:09:04.080 so I'd be an old old person if I if 0:09:04.120 --> 0:09:06.760 I went to into the military. You know, my grandpa's 0:09:06.760 --> 0:09:09.680 like eighteen. Um that's fifteen years ago for me, and 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:11.960 and it just makes me think about those people who 0:09:12.400 --> 0:09:14.640 lost lives. I'll tell you a quick story. Um that 0:09:14.760 --> 0:09:17.760 always I'm always reminded of Amoral Day. There's an incredible 0:09:17.800 --> 0:09:22.720 bar in New York City called mcsorley's. Mcsorley's has this story. 0:09:23.480 --> 0:09:27.760 I think you kind of call it um a tale 0:09:27.840 --> 0:09:29.800 because I don't know if it can be proven, but 0:09:29.840 --> 0:09:33.640 I think there is documentation of this um. But mcsorley's 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:35.960 has been around. It's one of the oldest bars in 0:09:36.000 --> 0:09:40.320 the US. UM incredibly old. I would try to say 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:42.960 the date, but I would have to look it up. Anyways, 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:46.760 before the kids in New York City went off to 0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:52.720 war for World War One, they had these um lights 0:09:52.800 --> 0:09:57.040 above the bar that we're connected by a pole. McSorley said, hey, 0:09:57.040 --> 0:09:59.240 how about you come in uh and get a turkey 0:09:59.320 --> 0:10:01.640 dinner that on the night with your families the night 0:10:01.679 --> 0:10:04.640 before you go to war. And then everybody would take 0:10:04.679 --> 0:10:08.920 off take out the wishbone. UM. Oh thank you. Our 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:12.840 producer just told us Mick Sorylis was um starting eighteen 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:17.080 fifty four Super Bowl. And so you'd finish your dinner, 0:10:17.120 --> 0:10:18.800 you take the wishbone from the turkey and you put 0:10:19.000 --> 0:10:23.040 up on um the light. You'd hang it right, you'd 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:25.280 put it out there so that the v attached to 0:10:25.320 --> 0:10:27.480 the pole that the light was on. Then when you 0:10:27.520 --> 0:10:30.280 came home from war, you could take a wishbone off. 0:10:31.000 --> 0:10:33.360 The thing that always struck me. Uh. And and one 0:10:33.360 --> 0:10:35.520 of the reasons why when you go to Mike Sorylers 0:10:35.559 --> 0:10:39.040 now is there's still many wishbones on the light that 0:10:39.120 --> 0:10:42.720 never got taken off by people not coming back from war. Um, 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:45.200 which was you know, it's something I don't know, it's weird. 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:46.800 It's like I went to this bar to have a 0:10:46.800 --> 0:10:49.200 good drink. Uh. And that's that's always stuck with me. 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:51.640 A Memorial days, these kids coming in with their families 0:10:51.679 --> 0:10:54.600 having dinner, putting it up there, some returning taken off 0:10:54.600 --> 0:10:59.439 and some not being able to take it off. So anyways, 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:02.360 that is Um, yesterday was a good day from members, 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:05.320 a good day for cookouts. I hope everybody listening had 0:11:05.320 --> 0:11:07.280 a great day with family or friends or just by 0:11:07.280 --> 0:11:10.440 yourself if you just took the day um to be 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:15.640 by yourself. Um. Also, actually, as we do this little 0:11:15.679 --> 0:11:17.760 host chat, it's a little more serious of a host 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:22.000 chat for me, um, if I could get personal, it's 0:11:22.040 --> 0:11:26.240 been a really odd week. Uh last week. Of course, 0:11:26.360 --> 0:11:27.800 last week it was a horrible week. It was a 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:31.200 horrible week, but I I am frustrated right now. Actually, 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:33.800 So I spent last week IM. I was invited to 0:11:33.840 --> 0:11:38.199 an event UM in Colorado Springs. I was invited to 0:11:38.240 --> 0:11:40.960 an event hosted by Focus on the Family. If you 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:43.960 know Focus on the Family. They've been around forever. UM. 0:11:44.040 --> 0:11:48.640 They're known to be UM anti a lot of things, 0:11:49.200 --> 0:11:52.640 a lot of things I personally, as a Christian uh 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:55.120 am not anti against. And I think people at this 0:11:55.160 --> 0:11:59.240 point either really um it really either angers them or 0:11:59.280 --> 0:12:01.120 they say, yeah, I get it. Um, I'm on that 0:12:01.240 --> 0:12:03.480 journey of trying to figure out how to love people 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:05.679 better too, and I don't, you know, I don't know 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:08.040 always where the line is and what I should be 0:12:08.080 --> 0:12:09.760 holding people too. And I've just kind of given up 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:12.679 holding people to any type of anything other than an 0:12:12.720 --> 0:12:15.640 idea of loving others, loving themselves, and hopefully loving God. 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:17.520 So I was invited to this event, I think just 0:12:17.559 --> 0:12:20.120 to they wanted to kind of share their thoughts and 0:12:20.160 --> 0:12:21.960 where they're going and where they're at and what they're 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:24.880 doing with a group of people that maybe don't fully 0:12:24.920 --> 0:12:28.199 agree with everything they're about. And I think that's really healthy. 0:12:28.400 --> 0:12:30.880 I think it's a really good practice in life actually 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:33.520 is to surround yourself with people that maybe aren't always 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:37.040 a part of your tribe or your network. Yeah, and 0:12:37.080 --> 0:12:40.280 I left being fairly encouraged. I won't go into the 0:12:40.280 --> 0:12:42.199 details of the stuff they're up to, but I really 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:45.160 enjoyed hearing from their CEO and sitting in a room 0:12:45.160 --> 0:12:47.720 of ten people with him and hearing where his heart's 0:12:47.760 --> 0:12:49.400 at and where he wants to go and how he 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:51.160 sees the world and the things that he wants to 0:12:51.160 --> 0:12:54.360 focus on. A lot of that is UM, outside of 0:12:54.360 --> 0:12:58.080 anything like helping make the adoption product process more efficient 0:12:58.080 --> 0:13:00.679 and effective for those wanting to adopt. Great thing. I 0:13:00.720 --> 0:13:04.000 think most people, no matter where you're at, I would 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:07.840 agree with that process. The other one is increasing UM 0:13:07.960 --> 0:13:12.679 the punishment for those who uh UM control and operate 0:13:13.040 --> 0:13:17.000 uh sex trafficking rings. I think, really great, really good. 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:18.760 Now there's other stuff maybe I wouldn't get behind that 0:13:18.800 --> 0:13:21.000 they're up to. UM. Again, I don't have to get 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:23.280 the details, but those two things I left being like, okay, 0:13:23.440 --> 0:13:25.000 I can, we can, we can get on the same 0:13:25.040 --> 0:13:27.000 page and those things. So I left there. I'm driving 0:13:27.040 --> 0:13:31.320 home and I get a text Sunday afternoon, UM and 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:33.800 and many people who listen to the almost famous podcast 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:36.440 message me. And this is why I'm saying it. UM 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:39.320 from a home church or a church within my home 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:42.960 of Orsandiana where a pastor um gets up and he 0:13:43.080 --> 0:13:47.679 admits that he's committed adultery to the congregation and um. 0:13:47.720 --> 0:13:49.559 He kind of frames it in this way that says, hey, 0:13:49.640 --> 0:13:53.520 I've um, I've sinned against my family. This happened when 0:13:53.559 --> 0:13:56.760 you got home. Yeah, this happened Sunday in Warsaw, and 0:13:56.760 --> 0:13:59.400 I got text that afternoon, I got I was at 0:13:59.440 --> 0:14:02.520 the event in till Sunday morning in Colorado Springs or 0:14:02.520 --> 0:14:05.720 Sunday evening, I guess, um, so having twenty four hours later, 0:14:06.559 --> 0:14:09.920 and he says I've committed adultery. And he's framing it 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:12.600 as I'm admitting this into the congregation um, which I 0:14:12.600 --> 0:14:15.400 think always comes from a place of hey, I'm a 0:14:15.440 --> 0:14:17.520 big enough human to admit that I've messed that kind 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:19.880 of thing, you know, and everybody collapse. A young lady 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:24.920 walks up on stage and says, uh, well, he just 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:26.640 kind of walks out of the congregation and walks up 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:28.080 on her own on stage and says, yeah, what he 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:32.160 didn't tell you? As I was sixteen years old, when 0:14:32.200 --> 0:14:37.040 he did this, and um, the church's reaction, I can't. 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:38.880 I don't want to judge the church's reaction. It was 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:40.640 a very odd reaction. If you've seen the video many 0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:44.800 people have. It wasn't my reaction just then, No, it wasn't. 0:14:44.840 --> 0:14:49.760 It was national news. Um, the reaction was confused. I 0:14:49.840 --> 0:14:52.080 think it would be. And I talked to some people 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:54.200 that were part of the congregation that day and they said, 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:58.640 how long was he a pastor? There? For thirty five years? Um, 0:14:58.800 --> 0:15:02.000 so he he's he's in his mid sixties at this point. 0:15:02.040 --> 0:15:06.400 But I think the congregation was confused at what was happening. 0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:08.800 And I have to give him that grace and be like, hey, 0:15:08.880 --> 0:15:10.880 I know what, Like when we watched the video and 0:15:10.880 --> 0:15:14.120 we know the truth to what was happening, we can go, 0:15:14.160 --> 0:15:16.200 oh my gosh, how did the congregation not react in 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:19.920 shock and like disappointment and whatever things you want to do? 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:22.400 They didn't because I think they were confused at what 0:15:22.480 --> 0:15:23.960 was being said in what was happening and if it 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:28.760 was um, yeah, and so it was a really hard 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:30.840 thing for me to see because here's the truth. And 0:15:30.840 --> 0:15:32.840 I'll get off my soapbox in a second. I'm really 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:35.600 saddened this week. And then we have the SBC report, 0:15:35.600 --> 0:15:38.240 the Southern Baptist Convention report, which many people know about. 0:15:38.600 --> 0:15:40.480 By the way, that is not my home church. That 0:15:40.560 --> 0:15:42.520 is not a church that I attended. I know of 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:45.360 it because it's in a small town of wors On, Indiana, UM, 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:47.000 but it is not a lot of people were wondering, 0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:49.520 is this your church? No, not at all the church 0:15:49.560 --> 0:15:52.280 that you're talking about with the adultery. Yeah, it is 0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:54.480 not my church. So just to be clear, I do 0:15:54.520 --> 0:15:56.360 know the people that work there, I do know of 0:15:56.400 --> 0:15:59.760 the families, but it's not my church. Um that I 0:15:59.800 --> 0:16:01.440 don't know if that makes a difference. W people are asking. 0:16:01.480 --> 0:16:04.080 I guess they were curious. But the SPC report comes 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:08.080 out the Southern Baptist Convention UM, and they over their 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:10.240 time of power have and they have a lot of power, 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:14.000 a lot of political power, a lot of religious power. UM. 0:16:14.040 --> 0:16:18.840 They've covered up uh seven cases of sexual abuse and 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:23.120 sexual assault within their congregations that would never spoke about 0:16:23.160 --> 0:16:24.760 and that came out in the investigation that was just 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:29.040 released last week. And then obviously we have, um, the 0:16:29.040 --> 0:16:34.560 school shooting in Texas, and I you know, it's weird 0:16:34.560 --> 0:16:36.200 to jump on this podcast and a bit we're gonna 0:16:36.200 --> 0:16:39.840 go through headlines. Um. I think the question I've been 0:16:39.840 --> 0:16:46.760 asking myself this week is like, um, why what? Uh? Where? 0:16:48.040 --> 0:16:50.280 What are we doing? I think is a lot of 0:16:51.200 --> 0:16:56.600 um the confusion what are we doing? Where have we um? 0:16:56.640 --> 0:17:00.360 And in both situations, the church and the shooting, where 0:17:00.360 --> 0:17:05.560 have we neglected and pushed aside the preciousness of life? 0:17:05.880 --> 0:17:08.160 This is not me? I hope maybe it does. Maybe 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:10.000 it is coming off as like a preachy thing. I 0:17:10.080 --> 0:17:11.639 just it's like questions I want to ask, is like, 0:17:11.640 --> 0:17:17.160 where have we gone wrong? Because we're going somewhere really wrong? 0:17:17.400 --> 0:17:21.879 And UM, I guess as a Christian myself, I want 0:17:21.880 --> 0:17:23.560 to know my role in that. And then also just 0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:25.240 as a as a human, I want to know my 0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:28.000 role in this. And so a lot of this week 0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:31.560 has been trying to figure out when the hell is happening? 0:17:31.800 --> 0:17:34.879 And again we this is the third time I'll make 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:36.720 this statement, but we jump on this podcast and we 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:38.640 talked about headlines, We talked about love, and we're gonna 0:17:38.640 --> 0:17:41.159 talk about relationships that are existing within this franchise. And 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:44.440 you know, the franchise used to be a space where 0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:47.280 it was kind of marketed as an escape from the 0:17:47.400 --> 0:17:49.479 chaos that is this world. I feel like at this 0:17:49.560 --> 0:17:51.600 point in time, though, the chaos that is this world 0:17:51.680 --> 0:17:54.960 is is so prevalent and so necessary and so needed 0:17:55.000 --> 0:17:58.320 that we we don't Maybe we can't. We can't afford 0:17:58.400 --> 0:18:02.359 the escape. Uh, like none of us can. And maybe 0:18:02.359 --> 0:18:04.600 that's my point is is like we we have to 0:18:04.880 --> 0:18:09.360 all be a part of something bringing us together again, 0:18:09.560 --> 0:18:12.840 because this is gother again. We we got to get together. 0:18:13.480 --> 0:18:16.080 And it seems like every time something like this happens, 0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:20.840 people are even pulled further apart. Yeah, and then I 0:18:20.880 --> 0:18:23.840 don't know what we have to do to get bother 0:18:24.200 --> 0:18:28.159 and to get together. I wish I had answers. Have 0:18:28.200 --> 0:18:30.920 we had answers right now? Then? I guess the point 0:18:31.040 --> 0:18:33.399 is if you're listening. I think the first step here 0:18:33.440 --> 0:18:37.560 is if you're listening, I just know that, like, because 0:18:37.560 --> 0:18:41.199 you have breath, you have value and you have purpose, 0:18:41.320 --> 0:18:44.120 and that you belong and you're needed and you're necessary, 0:18:44.400 --> 0:18:48.040 and that there's people that need you and want you 0:18:48.520 --> 0:18:50.800 to be a place of healing and comfort and listening 0:18:50.960 --> 0:18:53.600 and love and joy, and just know that to be true. 0:18:53.640 --> 0:18:56.280 Then everything else that comes from this you can ask 0:18:56.320 --> 0:18:58.480 your questions on what you think is right and wrong. 0:18:58.760 --> 0:19:01.639 Those things are up for you to grapple within yourself, 0:19:01.680 --> 0:19:04.000 but just ask. Just if you hear anything in this 0:19:04.040 --> 0:19:07.160 podcast today, just leave knowing that if you have breath, 0:19:07.280 --> 0:19:11.320 you have value, um, and that we need you here. 0:19:12.440 --> 0:19:16.960 And if you feel super alone right now and all 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:21.040 of it, UM, reach out to somebody, get some support 0:19:21.080 --> 0:19:26.160 and some help, because we just can't afford to keep 0:19:26.480 --> 0:19:30.040 this process going. If it comes treating men and women 0:19:30.680 --> 0:19:34.159 like their objects, when their kids, or if it is 0:19:34.560 --> 0:19:38.680 um going into a school and murdering innocent victims that 0:19:38.720 --> 0:19:40.840 if you look at their faces and you see their 0:19:40.880 --> 0:19:46.480 families and their stories, UM, if you just sit in 0:19:46.520 --> 0:19:50.080 that and you just know that, like what do you do? 0:19:50.160 --> 0:19:53.199 What do you say? And so yeah, I guess if 0:19:53.200 --> 0:19:55.560 you hear anything in this podcast, just know today, UM, 0:19:55.640 --> 0:19:57.119 when we do a host chat, I'm coming from a 0:19:57.119 --> 0:20:00.600 place of just trying to make sure that I personally, 0:20:01.040 --> 0:20:04.000 that you know personally Ashley, and that the people listening 0:20:04.040 --> 0:20:05.879 know that they just they got a lot of value 0:20:06.440 --> 0:20:09.320 and uh, and we need you to be your healthiest 0:20:09.440 --> 0:20:14.240 and best selves, um, because we just can't afford to 0:20:14.320 --> 0:20:16.960 keep going on this path. Well, we're gonna switch big 0:20:16.960 --> 0:20:20.359 gears here. Uh, We're going to take a break. We 0:20:20.440 --> 0:20:22.280 do a Bachelor headlines to breakdown. A lot of them 0:20:22.359 --> 0:20:24.080 are really I was reading through them. A lot of 0:20:24.119 --> 0:20:26.760 them are really encouraging this week. Some really exciting things 0:20:26.760 --> 0:20:28.600 happening with some of our friends, some people that we 0:20:28.640 --> 0:20:31.320 love and care about. I also know that Paradise is 0:20:31.359 --> 0:20:34.920 getting started up. I think Um being filmed. We're gonna 0:20:34.920 --> 0:20:37.600 talk a little bit about that. So let's take a break, 0:20:37.600 --> 0:20:39.520 come back with the almost famous podcast. We're gonna break 0:20:39.560 --> 0:20:52.640 down Bachelor headlines. It is time for Bachelor headlines. Our 0:20:52.720 --> 0:20:55.280 first one is a big one for for me, and 0:20:55.680 --> 0:21:00.600 I know Ashley, Uh, you care about these people as well. Uh. 0:21:00.640 --> 0:21:05.960 It feels less personal to me than it did with you. 0:21:06.359 --> 0:21:10.000 Because I had a very short period of time with 0:21:10.040 --> 0:21:13.679 Becca kou Friend hosting Bachelorive on stage. She was dating 0:21:13.680 --> 0:21:15.600 Garrett at the time, so I got to see that 0:21:15.640 --> 0:21:20.840 relationship and also UM was around her as that ended 0:21:21.040 --> 0:21:22.919 right and she decided and I talked to her and 0:21:22.960 --> 0:21:25.440 she decided to go on Paradise. I remember that conversation. 0:21:25.480 --> 0:21:27.879 I remember when where was at When I got the 0:21:27.880 --> 0:21:31.840 phone call. She was like, should I do it or not. Um, 0:21:31.880 --> 0:21:34.840