Speaker 1: Hello, Hi.
Speaker 2: How's it going?
Speaker 1: I'm very good? How are you?
Speaker 2: I'm good? Is this Hank?
Speaker 1: It is?
Speaker 3: It is?
Speaker 1: How are you?
Speaker 2: How am I? I'm doing well. I'm enjoying life. It's
Speaker 2: another day at the office. How are you, Hank?
Speaker 1: You know what it's going as well too. I wasn't
Speaker 1: expecting your thoughts.
Speaker 2: Well, Hank, what brings you to call in today?
Speaker 1: Well, I gat mailed you a month or two, a
Speaker 1: few months ago. Actually, I thought you would be interested
Speaker 1: about my curious interest?
Speaker 2: What was your gat mail?
Speaker 1: That? I have a fetish for suffering, and often that
Speaker 1: manifests with girls parting on me.
Speaker 2: I remember the femail? Yes, I remember the femail. I'm
Speaker 2: going to see if I can pull it up. Actually,
Speaker 2: I'll read it back for the chat here, or I'll
Speaker 2: read it back for the for the for the podcast listeners.
Speaker 2: Let's see, did you put your name in the cemail?
Speaker 2: Here we go? Yes? Okay, Hey, gak, this is Hank.
Speaker 2: Since being sixteen years old, I've had a fetish for suffering,
Speaker 2: but without liking physical pain during sexual activities. So this
Speaker 2: manifests to me being made to smell or taste unpleasant things,
Speaker 2: usually foods. I hate being farted on by a beautiful
Speaker 2: girl turns me on more than anything else. Interesting. Interesting.
Speaker 2: So how did you? How did you? How did you
Speaker 2: begin to do?
Speaker 1: You go ahead and say the second off, what email
Speaker 1: baffled you even more?
Speaker 2: If I remember, well, well, you know, well listen, fuck
Speaker 2: this email, let's just talk. Tell me, tell me more.
Speaker 1: Wow. So what was your question? How did I first
Speaker 1: discover this? Yeah, that is a great question. I'm going
Speaker 1: to try and make this relatable in a way and
Speaker 1: see if you know what I mean. I would say
Speaker 1: I didn't know much about my sexuality and even like
Speaker 1: finding their attractive until I was like fifteen or sixteen.
Speaker 1: But before then I would just have this like curiosity
Speaker 1: about gross things like that, for example, And I didn't
Speaker 1: find them gross. I found them like almost enjoyable. But
Speaker 1: obviously this is in a complete non sexual way. So
Speaker 1: I think there's people out there before they sort of
Speaker 1: hit maybe puberty or pre pubescent and before they know
Speaker 1: about weird type of shites. I always imagine foot guys
Speaker 1: always if i'd thinking about feet, even when they're like
Speaker 1: thirteen years old. But I don't know, I've never met
Speaker 1: a foot flesh guy to ask them, Well, I probably
Speaker 1: met them, just know that that's what they're into.
Speaker 2: But you have such an idea. What's funny is you
Speaker 2: have such a polite British candor that it's really hard
Speaker 2: for me to imagine somebody farting on you.
Speaker 1: And my last two girlfriends have both told me that
Speaker 1: I come across as those vanilla like if you completely
Speaker 1: ignore this, I'm a very normal guy. I'm I work,
Speaker 1: I work in healthcare, I live, I live in a flat,
Speaker 1: an apartment. Sorry, and I've just got a pretty normal
Speaker 1: life then and then there's just this like weird quirk
Speaker 1: which people don't know about.
Speaker 2: So have you had a lot of different women fart
Speaker 2: on you?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd say about seven.
Speaker 2: Eight all right, And how does that conversation usually go?
Speaker 1: It depends I read the room and over the year,
Speaker 1: I'm twenty seven now, fantastic age. Over the years, I've
Speaker 1: become more and more comfortable with it. But it depends
Speaker 1: on them, like if because I've been with people who
Speaker 1: are themselves very explorative, very out there, very kinky, so
Speaker 1: then you can kind of just come out with it
Speaker 1: and they're called it the fine. If maybe their interests
Speaker 1: aren't quite as uh, it's explorative. I kind of just
Speaker 1: go in with a little bit of a sit on
Speaker 1: my face thing and then just like a bit of
Speaker 1: an ass play thing, and then yeah, build into it,
Speaker 1: you know, build into it.
Speaker 2: And of all of that, how many how many long
Speaker 2: term relationships have you been in?
Speaker 1: I've been in the one of them when I was
Speaker 1: like fifteen years old until I was eighteen, So including
Speaker 1: that one, three.
Speaker 2: And what did all wear? All three of them down
Speaker 2: to fart on you?
Speaker 1: With my first ever relationship, like I said, a fifteen
Speaker 1: year old one, we tried it once, wasn't really quite how,
Speaker 1: it didn't really work out.
Speaker 2: But this is when long term, this is when you
Speaker 2: were fifteen.
Speaker 1: Now we're about seventeen by this point. Yeah, the relationship
Speaker 1: started and it was like a week before my sixteenth birthday,
Speaker 1: on together till our date until we're eighteen. And that
Speaker 1: one we didn't really we tried it once. That was it.
Speaker 1: But yeah, the obviously long tired relationships, both of them
Speaker 1: involved farting. Yeah mm hmm.
Speaker 2: You has there ever been a situation where you approach
Speaker 2: someone about farting on you and they were they were
Speaker 2: disgusted by it, or they they reacted in a way
Speaker 2: that felt viscerally negative.
Speaker 1: Never in the comp never in like a relationship. We no,
Speaker 1: I say they only like if I get the vibe
Speaker 1: that they won't be into it. I won't ask with
Speaker 1: like sexual partners because I've had like casual relationships and
Speaker 1: my other relationships as well, which aren't long term. And
Speaker 1: if I get the vibe that they're sort of vanilla
Speaker 1: or like even just talking about like face sitting gets
Speaker 1: them a bit upset, then I won't. I won't approach it.
Speaker 1: You've got to know your audience. That's always a good
Speaker 1: lesson in life. But no one's ever been like completely disgusted.
Speaker 1: And the more I live, the more that surprises me.
Speaker 1: And the more I just think, you know, people like
Speaker 1: you and they want to people. You know, people want
Speaker 1: to make people happy. You don't know at the end
Speaker 1: of the day. And I'm very open and I'm very explorative,
Speaker 1: and I'll pretty much do anything. Whoever I'm weird is
Speaker 1: significant other. If they say to me, oh, I really
Speaker 1: want to try this, then I'll always give it a go.
Speaker 1: Part of that is because I can't say I want
Speaker 1: you to set my face and want your fart of me,
Speaker 1: but then you're one request. Oh absolutely not. That's kind
Speaker 1: of a bit bit of a dish move.
Speaker 2: What are some things that you've tried because of that
Speaker 2: standard that you've set?
Speaker 1: Piss play? Not saying I've ever been interested in but
Speaker 1: her a girl wanted to piss on me, so I
Speaker 1: let her?
Speaker 2: And how is that? Uh?
Speaker 1: It's once once again I'm asking girl. I'm asking girls
Speaker 1: to fart on me. So my threshold is probably higher
Speaker 1: than others. But like if you if, if girls want
Speaker 1: to do that, I was fine, It's not a deal
Speaker 1: break for me. The only thing I've ever said no
Speaker 1: to was knife play, and that's just a little bit
Speaker 1: too risky for me.
Speaker 2: Interesting, where do they want to put the knife?
Speaker 1: Press it around their neck and body? They wanted need
Speaker 1: to cress it around their neck and their body? Oh?
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay did they ever? Did they want to ever?
Speaker 2: Pub Like, like, if a girl wanted to like put
Speaker 2: a knife up your ass, would you let her do that?
Speaker 1: I've never had more than a finger up and I
Speaker 1: think probably keep it that way.
Speaker 2: Okay. How about pegging, I feel like that's the one
Speaker 2: thing that people I feel pegging is heart Now. I
Speaker 2: feel like pegging people are into pegging.
Speaker 1: Well, I've always I've always been very conflicted about that
Speaker 1: because once, as I say, I've only ever had a
Speaker 1: finger up there and that was quite painful. So I
Speaker 1: think it would take a lot to get me to
Speaker 1: be pegged. But I'm very submissive guy, so I love
Speaker 1: the idea of it that in practice I found it
Speaker 1: a lot more challenging to work.
Speaker 2: And piss played. A girl wanted to pee on you?
Speaker 2: And how did it? How did how did that feel
Speaker 2: when she peed on you? Did you enjoy that?
Speaker 1: This sounds really stupid, but it kind of like it
Speaker 1: was maybe she was too dehydrated. It was just like
Speaker 1: too much pea, if that makes sense. Like she if
Speaker 1: she like too much, isn't too strong, too diluted or
Speaker 1: not very luted enough. So it was like okay, but
Speaker 1: it was just very didn't do anything for me.
Speaker 2: If she had drank more water beforehand, you think it
Speaker 2: would have done more for you?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think I think. I don't know if
Speaker 1: it would have done more for me, but it would
Speaker 1: have just been a slightly more pleasant experience. Interesting because
Speaker 1: I like, I like to be dominated, and that's a
Speaker 1: very dominated that's the very dominating thing but like it's
Speaker 1: very like you're very aware that someone's pissing on you
Speaker 1: when they're pissing on you, is what I would.
Speaker 2: Say, tell dive more into that's an interest. You're very
Speaker 2: aware when someone's pissing on you. When they're pissing on you,
Speaker 2: do you mean by that?
Speaker 1: So if a girl's if I'm tied up and a
Speaker 1: girl dominating me, I might not be thinking very specifically
Speaker 1: about what they're doing. It's more like the whole general like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm being dominated, this girl's on top
Speaker 1: of me. This is fantastic. Whereas if a girl's pissing
Speaker 1: on you, I don't really think, oh my god, there's
Speaker 1: this really hot girl dominating me. I just think, oh,
Speaker 1: that's piss mmm, And it kind of takes me out
Speaker 1: of kind of takes me out of the mood because
Speaker 1: the whole, the whole part thing, the whole suffering thing
Speaker 1: in general, and it's mainly a suffering thing. Fart. There's
Speaker 1: just a very specific point of that which I can't
Speaker 1: seem to shake, but it's the whole suffering thing in general.
Speaker 1: I think that definitely comes from just like a primary submissive,
Speaker 1: I just like dominant girls mmm, but that makes dating hard.
Speaker 1: That makes dating hard?
Speaker 2: Are you currently.
Speaker 1: Yes, I am, but I'm dating. Yeah, I'm like talking
Speaker 1: to people and meeting up with girls. It's I was
Speaker 1: just going to say, it's difficult to know, like because
Speaker 1: you don't want to get too in a relationship, too
Speaker 1: far in deep with someone and I fall for them,
Speaker 1: so then find out that, like you're completely sexually incompatible,
Speaker 1: but like you don't want to be on the first
Speaker 1: date in the restaurant going so, hey, have you ever
Speaker 1: farted on a guy? There's like a line. And sometimes
Speaker 1: because like I said, I'm twenty seven, that's like you've
Speaker 1: got to start thinking about the long term. You've got
Speaker 1: to start thinking of settling down and all of that
Speaker 1: sort of thing. And I'd say I'm dating to settle down.
Speaker 1: And sometimes if there's someone who I'm not like sexually
Speaker 1: compassible with, every other way we're sexually compatib's sorry, in
Speaker 1: every other way we're compatible. I kind of feel a
Speaker 1: bit like a dick for calling that off, Like am
Speaker 1: I being immature? That the wrong decision? But ultimately I
Speaker 1: think sexual compatibility is quite important.
Speaker 2: No, I agree, I agree, I agree. And also it's
Speaker 2: you know, you've decided that it's important to you, that's
Speaker 2: that's important.
Speaker 1: But then I don't I don't need a dominate trix,
Speaker 1: just someone who's got like quite an open mind. Because
Speaker 1: I think you said pegging's very in, like like sitting
Speaker 1: on the guy's face is also very in, which is
Speaker 1: fantastic news for me. So and I think you can
Speaker 1: you can need girls into it, and you can need
Speaker 1: anyone into it. Really I was eased into it, so
Speaker 1: like it's if you go on the first date saying
Speaker 1: fart of me, Probably not you build up to it.
Speaker 1: Then people are normally more perceptive.
Speaker 2: Well, when is there a rule of thumb for you
Speaker 2: how deep into a relationship until you bring this up?
Speaker 1: Perhaps? So absolutely not. It depends on the other person.
Speaker 1: I've done it like free dated with someone before, but
Speaker 1: then I've also done it like a year and for
Speaker 1: other people. Oddly enough, the person I did it in
Speaker 1: was like three months was a co worker and we're
Speaker 1: like no longer a thing. That's very strange when I
Speaker 1: see her in a corridor and it's like I used
Speaker 1: to part of me and now we just like make
Speaker 1: small talk.
Speaker 2: Were you just somebody that used to fart on.
Speaker 1: Me exactly that. Do you know what, next time I
Speaker 1: see who, I'm going to think of that exact song.
Speaker 1: So thank you yet?
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course that's that's it's the weird al Vic
Speaker 2: parody of that song.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't suppose a peach on that.
Speaker 2: Mmmmm mmm. So what are you on the apps? Where
Speaker 2: are you on?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: Are you on? I feel like you do well on
Speaker 2: like a field, like one of the like one kind
Speaker 2: of like the alternative apps.
Speaker 1: I'd considered that, but I'm very much in the English
Speaker 1: cantry side. The dating pool here is far is quite
Speaker 1: small compared to a city. So for example, when I
Speaker 1: visit London, there's there's loads of options, but I don't
Speaker 1: live there. I live many hours away, So unless you're
Speaker 1: on the mainstream apps, there's really not much elsewhere.
Speaker 2: M hm hmmm. So are you getting a lot of
Speaker 2: matches on these apps?
Speaker 1: Are you?
Speaker 2: Are you talking to people in person too or is
Speaker 2: it mainly the apps?
Speaker 1: So in my job in healthcare, it can be quite
Speaker 1: difficult to speak to people in person because I'm normally
Speaker 1: seeing them in a in a context in which it
Speaker 1: would be inappropriate to then ask for their number.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: I know your family members dying, but hey, here's my numbers.
Speaker 1: It in my face. Sometimes it kind of doesn't really
Speaker 1: but otherwise, but it kind of em limits you to like,
Speaker 1: you know, people you meet in coffee shops and stuff.
Speaker 1: But despite what films have shown me over the years,
Speaker 1: I've never been approached for my phone number and coffee
Speaker 1: shops while disappointing. So yeah, it's it's mainly on the app.
Speaker 1: So and I'd say I've got reasonable success. I've been
Speaker 1: you know, I would say, except for the week I
Speaker 1: was ill, I go on like two dates a week
Speaker 1: for the last month.
Speaker 2: Oh that's pretty that's pretty good. That's pretty good. How
Speaker 2: do they usually go? Do you have a spot that
Speaker 2: you take people to?
Speaker 1: Not really, I go, we drive usually most people see
Speaker 1: is like the closest city. It's still like a forty
Speaker 1: five minutes drive for me. But we're just going, like
Speaker 1: go grab coffee or grab grab lunch or something like that.
Speaker 1: Usually pretty laid back. I'm pretty good, chilled m hm.
Speaker 1: And I struggle with like making connections with people. I'm
Speaker 1: a little bit but I would describe myself as a
Speaker 1: little bit autistic. But I'm also medicated for it, so
Speaker 1: maybe I'm a little bit more than I would say,
Speaker 1: but maybe it's the mets make me just a little bit.
Speaker 1: But I better in person, and I just usually get
Speaker 1: a vibe pretty quickly from people.
Speaker 2: Do you try to date women who are also autistic?
Speaker 1: I think I described it. I don't know where I've
Speaker 1: copied this from, but this isn't an original thought. But
Speaker 1: then again, what is like an autism bluetooth? Like two
Speaker 1: autistic people tend to like naturally connect to each other.
Speaker 1: They kind of naturally want to connect to each other. Sure, yeah, autism, bluetooth, autism, Yeah,
Speaker 1: alto them bluetooth. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I bet autism and Wi Fi would be awesome.
Speaker 4: I don't know what it would be.
Speaker 1: I could get behind that. That would be quite helpful, that
Speaker 1: that would be a dating app. I could get behind
Speaker 1: that order than Wi Fi.
Speaker 2: Is there a dating app just for artistic people? There's
Speaker 2: got to be, right, I.
Speaker 1: Mean, there's a dating app for everything, isn't there? So
Speaker 1: there should be like Love on the Spectrum and those
Speaker 1: sort of programs have made that very popular, so there's services.
Speaker 1: Like in the UK, there used to be a show
Speaker 1: before Love on a Spectrum called The Undatables. It's like
Speaker 1: the UK version of love on the spectrum, and there's
Speaker 1: dating agencies specifically set up for people with like physical
Speaker 1: or like physical disabilities or mental disabilities or like more
Speaker 1: severe autism. So yeah, I'm sure those services can exist.
Speaker 1: But I also I've always wondered, and maybe you can
Speaker 1: ponder this with me, because I know you love a
Speaker 1: ponder whether and because another thing with autism, except for
Speaker 1: like the social sort of interactions with people is like
Speaker 1: is obviously sensation maybe like some people often get either
Speaker 1: stimulated or things like that. And I wonder if my
Speaker 1: sort of enjoying gross things things which I should have
Speaker 1: a negative reaction instead I have a positive reaction. Whether
Speaker 1: that's just like a fundamental ordersm thing of like just
Speaker 1: just wired slightly differently.
Speaker 4: And shouldn't enjoy I should enjoy interesting like that for example,
Speaker 4: interesting do you know any have you spoken to anyone
Speaker 4: else about who has this particular thing?
Speaker 2: Like do you go on the do you go on
Speaker 2: like the message boards to talk about this ship? Because
Speaker 2: like I can't imagine that you just hold this on
Speaker 2: your own, like you there's no way you haven't gone
Speaker 2: out in search of like, hey, is anyone else feel
Speaker 2: this way?
Speaker 1: I'll be I have tried. I have gone to Reddit
Speaker 1: as any as anyone would as the best place for
Speaker 1: this sort of thing. But all the forums on Reddit,
Speaker 1: if I caul forum, I don't know all the pages
Speaker 1: of them Reddit are a kind of just like offering
Speaker 1: videos and just say guys saying, Hi, I'm twenty three male,
Speaker 1: meet up with me. I'm in Washington. Like there's no
Speaker 1: like I wouldn't say there's like a board for like
Speaker 1: general discussion and advice.
Speaker 2: But you know what's you know, here's the thing is
Speaker 2: And porn hub I think has comments for this very reason, right,
Speaker 2: because it's bizarre that porn hub has comments at all,
Speaker 2: Like who wants to comment on the porn? But I
Speaker 2: like what you're this is what it's really for, is
Speaker 2: like you gotta go on to like a fart video
Speaker 2: on porn hub and make a comment and be like, hey,
Speaker 2: how was everyone here's childhood? Like what are your guys
Speaker 2: like blood work? You know, like you got to kind
Speaker 2: of like try to make some connections that way.
Speaker 1: Well, this might be a loaded question. I feel like
Speaker 1: you ort to know the answer this, But have you
Speaker 1: ever looked on the comments of part fetish videos.
Speaker 2: I've never looked on them. You know, I'll do it
Speaker 2: right now. I'm going to do it right now. Yeah,
Speaker 2: go ahead.
Speaker 1: I was gonna pay my experience, like after I can't
Speaker 1: have look at and it's usually just I assume guys
Speaker 1: you could be either saying, oh I wish that was
Speaker 1: me or who's that girl and thinks like that like
Speaker 1: that was so good. It's more just like constructive praise
Speaker 1: as opposed to a more of a community.
Speaker 2: Feel interesting okay, fart porn? Okay, all right, hold on,
Speaker 2: let me look at this. There's not there's no comments. Okay.
Speaker 2: I would so love to experience this as humiliation. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: you're right. It's mostly people being like that's that's awesome.
Speaker 2: It's not as many people being like, hey, how's everyone
Speaker 2: here doing?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: You know what, that's not much. Constructive criticism is normally
Speaker 1: pretty positive as well, so you know they're don't that right? Mmm?
Speaker 2: I mean someone had. But here's the thing is, like
Speaker 2: someone has to start the conversation.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I bet if you put yourself out there on Reddit
Speaker 2: and you're like, hey, like I think it would be
Speaker 2: brave of you to go into the far fetish porn
Speaker 2: subreddit and make the first pop, make that first post
Speaker 2: that goes, hey do any of do any of you
Speaker 2: guys ever wonder why we are like this?
Speaker 1: Do you do? You know? The I think I've been
Speaker 1: a big fan of yours for years and I've got
Speaker 1: and I've not come to a live show yet. If
Speaker 1: you ever come back to England, they'll be there. But
Speaker 1: an example you always use because when people call in
Speaker 1: and are like, I'm feeling lonely, I'm really struggling to connect.
Speaker 1: I'm really I've got really niche interests, which I technically
Speaker 1: do as well. But you know you always say go
Speaker 1: on a discord and just make a discord and other
Speaker 1: people who are sad and have your niche interest will
Speaker 1: go on the discord as well. Maybe that's what I
Speaker 1: need to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean, you know, I think disc I
Speaker 2: think I always think going in person and doing things
Speaker 2: is best. But you know, if you don't have the
Speaker 2: ability to do that, or if you're I don't know
Speaker 2: where you would go in person? I bet where do
Speaker 2: you live? You live in England? You live near London?
Speaker 1: Yeah, the English countryside, many hours away from London. Oh okay,
Speaker 1: so there's no life like a village hall and be
Speaker 1: a bit strange.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no like fart loving meetup in the They're
Speaker 2: probably they're almost I would bet that there is a
Speaker 2: fart lover's meet up somewhere in London, but I don't
Speaker 2: know if you're going to find that. Yeah in the
Speaker 2: English countryside, but yeah, you can join it. I'm sure
Speaker 2: there's a discord. Do you care about that that? Do
Speaker 2: you need? Like do you want to connect with other
Speaker 2: fart loving people?
Speaker 1: I don't think it would be more of my own
Speaker 1: personal interests as opposed to a need. I'd be curious
Speaker 1: to know also how they got into it, because I've
Speaker 1: looked into the psychology behind it and there's only really
Speaker 1: one study and that was more of a case study
Speaker 1: if they just interviewed one guy about it. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it would more just be of a curiosity standpoint. I
Speaker 1: feel that I wouldn't personally develop as a I would
Speaker 1: personally develop because of this, Like I've had this for years.
Speaker 1: I feel like I know where I am, I know
Speaker 1: what I enjoy, and part of me will never really
Speaker 1: understand why. Because one thing you said when you did
Speaker 1: read out the email is people don't choose this and
Speaker 1: people don't choose their fetishes. I don't. I don't know what.
Speaker 1: I'm just glad my fetish is legal, like you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, and that's I mean, of course people I
Speaker 2: think it. Yeah, I mean, of course people don't choose
Speaker 2: the I don't think that if you bro I actually,
Speaker 2: when I think about this a lot, I wonder about, like, uh,
Speaker 2: how why we get attracted to certain things, and like
Speaker 2: how much of it is, like because I know the
Speaker 2: whole like nature verse nurture thing, Like I wonder how
Speaker 2: much of like whatever, like my own shit is like uh,
Speaker 2: just because like my like my fucking like dad being
Speaker 2: like a horny guy, or how much of it is
Speaker 2: like you know, like exposure to porn at like a
Speaker 2: young age. You know, like how much of it is
Speaker 2: is like genetics and random neuron It's like personality. It's
Speaker 2: like you don't you don't. Well, it's kind of like
Speaker 2: personality in the sense of like you don't choose your personality,
Speaker 2: but you also, I guess, kind of do a little bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah. You can feed into different areas if you can.
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's like you have these wolves in your head
Speaker 2: and you can choose to feed them or not it's
Speaker 2: probably it's probably a little bit more how it is.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't you don't like start out with it.
Speaker 1: No, I can't think of any sort so one here's
Speaker 1: one interesting sort of As I said, I looked at
Speaker 1: a lot of psychology of this. I'm definitely not a psychologist.
Speaker 2: Not hit me, but no, neither am I. Neither am I.
Speaker 1: The closest I've got is if you've gone for a
Speaker 1: traumatic childhood where you have suffered a lot as a child.
Speaker 1: As an adult, you'll say, used to suffering, you almost
Speaker 1: want to harness that suffering and you want to be
Speaker 1: able to control that suffering. That's the closest I've got.
Speaker 1: But that's even just from a very general general sort
Speaker 1: of b DSM just being tied up or anything like that.
Speaker 1: Like you've not been in control as a child, so
Speaker 1: I'm an adult that's manifested and she wanted to control that,
Speaker 1: control that. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I went to the AVN convention like three years ago,
Speaker 2: the like the big porn convention, and I was talking
Speaker 2: to Yeah, I was talking to some people there who
Speaker 2: were like really who are like big BDSM people, And
Speaker 2: they mentioned that they were like, oh, a lot of
Speaker 2: this is like people who experienced some kind of like
Speaker 2: trauma and they want to like uh uh yeah, harness
Speaker 2: it in like a way of their own choosing. I mean,
Speaker 2: is that you is that like? Did you? I mean,
Speaker 2: if you want to talk about it, did you have
Speaker 2: did you get like far along a lot as a child?
Speaker 1: Well? I think I when any suffering I've had as
Speaker 1: a child is very normal. It's like parents split up,
Speaker 1: abusive father never to me, but it's a family and
Speaker 1: an alcoholic and a drug user, so sort of that
Speaker 1: general sort of suffering of being in a bad environment.
Speaker 1: But I can't think of any specific like unpleasant smells
Speaker 1: or unpleasant tastes or anything like lap so kind of
Speaker 1: hat kind of half half mark there, half marked. But
Speaker 1: I think that's why I'm submissive, probably because that's probably
Speaker 1: what I'm submissive.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: What else? What else do you do you need to?
Speaker 2: Do you like to be farther on every time you
Speaker 2: have sex? Or do you is it so? Is it
Speaker 2: every time? Or are you able to just have regular
Speaker 2: normal sex? And you're like this is.
Speaker 1: Fine, Yeah, I couldn't just have regular normal sex. I
Speaker 1: enjoy that as much like usually when it when if
Speaker 1: you're doing the farting thing. That's not gonna then be
Speaker 1: punished to sex because logistically that's a little bit challenging.
Speaker 1: So then usually that's like sixty nine or something like that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I enjoy just penetrative, regular sex and doggie
Speaker 1: and I canna say it's not it's just it's an ass.
Speaker 1: I love that, so you know, ali ass and yeah,
Speaker 1: boggie and all. That's absolutely great.
Speaker 2: The way you, the way you say these things with
Speaker 2: your British accent is really funny.
Speaker 1: I've always been told I'm well spoken, even for like
Speaker 1: my even for being in the English countryside. It probably
Speaker 1: sounds disproportionately oosh and well spoken for you.
Speaker 2: What do you do for a living, Hank? What's the
Speaker 2: I'm curious, But briefly before we go, I want to
Speaker 2: hear about your life outside of farts. I'm curious.
Speaker 1: So I work for I work for healthcare, work and
Speaker 1: the ambulance service.
Speaker 2: Right, Okay, sorry you mentioned that a bunch of times.
Speaker 1: M hm. So yeah, when I'm in Mandoon people's houses,
Speaker 1: that's what I don't ask for girl's numbers.
Speaker 2: That makes sense. What's your go ahead? Go ahead?
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say I come. I also come
Speaker 1: across that work from some gross or disgusting things. But
Speaker 1: in the same way that the guy who's like into
Speaker 1: feet doesn't find all feet attractive, and they can look
Speaker 1: at feet in a platonic way. I'm very much in control.
Speaker 1: I've never been turned on at work because of something gross.
Speaker 1: Even just like if someone I'm with is like farts,
Speaker 1: I won't be turned on by that. It's very specifically
Speaker 1: the girls who I'm like attracted to, or it's very
Speaker 1: much in the context.
Speaker 2: You ever been in like an elevator and a lady
Speaker 2: like farts in the elevator and that does something for you.
Speaker 1: I haven't been in that situation, but if it was
Speaker 1: a very hot girl, it would be interesting to know
Speaker 1: what my brain would do.
Speaker 2: Or I guess a lift, Yeah, a lift.
Speaker 1: Well, that's true.
Speaker 2: It's been nice talking to you, Hank. You're you're a
Speaker 2: nice guy. You're a pleasant guy. What's your dream in life?
Speaker 2: Before we go with see what do you want ultimately
Speaker 2: in your life?
Speaker 1: Hank? Well, a very sort of traditional sort of I
Speaker 1: just want to live in a in a house in
Speaker 1: the countryside, with a loving life, go to work, come home,
Speaker 1: live on not like a farm. We call it a
Speaker 1: small holding. Have you got small holdings in America?
Speaker 2: What is it? What is there? What's a small holding?
Speaker 1: So it's like a it's like a tiny farm or
Speaker 1: like a hobby farm or things like that. So you're
Speaker 1: not like keeping hundreds of cows for a profit, but
Speaker 1: like you might have like a pet cow, a couple
Speaker 1: of goats, or like a couple of ducks and geese.
Speaker 1: So you know, a house in the countryside of a
Speaker 1: bit of land and just yeah, just a pretty normal life,
Speaker 1: if there is such a thing as a normal life,
Speaker 1: a life where you would walk into it if you
Speaker 1: were if you were the postman or the mailman, or
Speaker 1: you know, you walk past his house, you would never
Speaker 1: think that guy's probably going to get fired on later.
Speaker 1: You'd never know. There'd be no signs.
Speaker 2: Thank you for calling, Hank. Is there anything else you
Speaker 2: want to say to the people of the computer before
Speaker 2: we go?
Speaker 1: Just make sure that make sure that you're friends are okay.
Speaker 1: Recently in my area of work, Lesbion an increase in
Speaker 1: suicides this year, so just just checking on people, make
Speaker 1: sure make sure they don't make.
Speaker 2: Any Thank you, Hank. You have a good rest of
Speaker 2: your entire life.
Speaker 1: Stay awesome. Get see around the universe by Hank.
Speaker 2: What a nice guy? What a what a what a
Speaker 2: beautiful soul? See I believe, I love, I love. I
Speaker 2: don't think you have to be all things at once.
Speaker 2: I really don't. Look at Hank. Hank is a is
Speaker 2: a supportive friend. He's a Hank is a supportive friend.
Speaker 2: He's a good citizen. He works hard for people in need,
Speaker 2: and he loves eating farts. And he can he can
Speaker 2: be all those things at once. I remember this, folks.
Speaker 2: This is important when you think, folks, when you think
Speaker 2: people talking, this is a real thing. And I had
Speaker 2: to deal with this in my own life, and I
Speaker 2: think people deal with it. And there's you. Sometimes it's
Speaker 2: easy to think that you have that every part of
Speaker 2: your existence has to be perfectly, neatly aligned, But it doesn't.
Speaker 2: You can be all you can be all kinds of
Speaker 2: conflicting things. Shout out to Hank, Hobi Obiah finds his heart.
Speaker 3: Queen, no way, I'm on with the cat.
Speaker 2: What's up, buddy? How you doing good?
Speaker 3: How are you?
Speaker 2: I'm actually I'm pretty good. I'm sure. I don't I
Speaker 2: can't really complain about anything. It's another day at the
Speaker 2: at the motherfucking office. What's going on with you, buddy?
Speaker 3: Currently having like, Oh my god, I can't believe I'm
Speaker 3: on with you right now. Okay, give me one second, go.
Speaker 2: Ahead, take a time, brother, What are you having?
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm on with the geck, don't blow.
Speaker 2: It to blow What do you? What? Are you having.
Speaker 3: A little bit of anxiety because I'm just so happy
Speaker 3: to talk to you? Hmm?
Speaker 2: Do I do you normally get Do you normally get anxious? Uh?
Speaker 3: Just like in life, And it depends on the situation,
Speaker 3: certain social situations. For sure. I get a particular anxiety
Speaker 3: about the phone. Yeah, because I think I found dumb
Speaker 3: on the phone. But it's fine, dude.
Speaker 2: It's interesting. I've talked to a lot of people over
Speaker 2: the years who said they have specifically anxiety about phone calls,
Speaker 2: like it would be almost more anxious for them to
Speaker 2: make a phone call than it would to like talk
Speaker 2: to someone in real life. I don't know if that's you,
Speaker 2: but I've heard people say that is that is that you?
Speaker 3: I have way easier of the time. I've been trying
Speaker 3: to get over that because I kind of want to
Speaker 3: do what you do a little bit, But I kind
Speaker 3: of have a mix of things that I want to
Speaker 3: do on the internet. It's my content is a lot
Speaker 3: more ADHD. It's all over the place. But I don't
Speaker 3: know shit, man, I want to do like story times
Speaker 3: and stuff. I've had a lot of interesting jobs and
Speaker 3: like a lot of interesting experiences that a lot of
Speaker 3: people haven't had. So I feel like I've got a
Speaker 3: lot of advice I could offer, But the anxieties crazy.
Speaker 2: Wait, so you don't have to live, You don't have
Speaker 2: to like you don't have to like pick the best
Speaker 2: one or like psych yourself out about it. But like, what,
Speaker 2: what's like an example of one of these experiences that
Speaker 2: you feel like not a lot of people have had.
Speaker 3: Shit, Where do I start? I was one of the
Speaker 3: few kids who like, once you get into the foster system,
Speaker 3: usually you like don't get back with your parents. But
Speaker 3: my mom fought really hard and got me back. That's
Speaker 3: one thing.
Speaker 2: Wait, why I thought like she like she you were
Speaker 2: taking it, like CPS took you away or something.
Speaker 3: Essentially because it was hard for her to get on
Speaker 3: her feet after escaping. My dad he is another type
Speaker 3: of monster any of itself. But my mom's fucking awesome.
Speaker 3: I call her on Father's Day. She gets both days,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Fuck, yeah, that's cool. That's awesome. Like, damn, you did
Speaker 2: the work. I like that you did the work of
Speaker 2: both parents. You get both days. Oh hell yeah, that's cool.
Speaker 2: How long are you you foster care for?
Speaker 3: Not long, maybe like two three months. But I was
Speaker 3: really young and surprised. It's like one of my first memories.
Speaker 3: They were those people were terrible. I'm glad my mom
Speaker 3: got me back.
Speaker 1: Let me say that really.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like when I went to see her, like I
Speaker 3: wanted to bring this dinosaur one time, and they were like,
Speaker 3: you can't take anything with you when you go to
Speaker 3: see her, And uh, you can't take anything from her
Speaker 3: anymore either. I think she gave it to me in
Speaker 3: the first place. But uh, how old are you do
Speaker 3: a ship like that? Almost have been like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: eight seven ish?
Speaker 2: Dude, you know what's I'm sure you feel this way strongly,
Speaker 2: but like, I don't know, I don't have the Maybe
Speaker 2: I'm missing some kind of context because like I've never
Speaker 2: really I've never like worked with kids. I've never been
Speaker 2: like a I don't you know, I don't have kids
Speaker 2: I've never been like a teacher or like a counsel
Speaker 2: or any of that shit. But like, dude, growing like
Speaker 2: once you like get older and then you like start
Speaker 2: to think back about like teachers who were dicks or like,
Speaker 2: you know, like caretakers who were dicks, you start to
Speaker 2: start to be bro. You start to be you start
Speaker 2: to be like, how the fuck could a grown ass
Speaker 2: man or woman be such an asshole to like a kid?
Speaker 2: You know, Like it's like when I think about like
Speaker 2: shit like teachers said to me or yelled at me
Speaker 2: about or anything like that, I'm like, how did you
Speaker 2: have the capacity to be that way to a kid? Dude?
Speaker 3: It's just low intelligence, man. They are just not emotionally
Speaker 3: intelligent at all. The other thing that's pretty interesting is
Speaker 3: I'll say my voice doesn't match what I look like.
Speaker 3: I'm kind of a big dude. My main gig for
Speaker 3: a long time is being a bouncer. But I barely
Speaker 3: had any altercations because I can talk a dog off
Speaker 3: a meat wagon. It's one of my skills.
Speaker 2: What kind of club were you bouncer at?
Speaker 3: Uh? You know the City World of Witches?
Speaker 2: Guide City World of Witches.
Speaker 3: You know the city where all the witches died.
Speaker 2: Oh I thought you said, do you know the City
Speaker 2: World of Witches guide? Now Salem, Salem?
Speaker 3: So that was my stomping grounds. I did like on
Speaker 3: the big.
Speaker 2: H you're cutting out, You're cutting.
Speaker 3: Out, Okay, so I'll try that again. I did three
Speaker 3: different bars on the main street in that city that
Speaker 3: like all the tourists, it's like the where everything goes on.
Speaker 2: Can I can I get an idea?
Speaker 5: How?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Sorry, go ahead, go ahead, la finished.
Speaker 3: The main one that did was called Coodo, and it
Speaker 3: was basically like sushi restaurant during the day, metal club
Speaker 3: at night, with like a bunch of different events that
Speaker 3: happened every month. They got like gay night and dark
Speaker 3: night and eighties night.
Speaker 2: Can I get an idea of how?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 2: What do you look like? How tall are you? How
Speaker 2: much do you weigh?
Speaker 3: I am six foot even and I'm currently two hundred
Speaker 3: and seventy eight pounds, But I just started hitting the
Speaker 3: gym again, so I'm gonna get really big.
Speaker 2: Real big, really Oh shit? Okay, all right, yeah I know,
Speaker 2: And now I gotta picture of you. Now I don't
Speaker 2: want to fuck with you.
Speaker 3: I got face tats too.
Speaker 2: Really you have facetat. What kind of face tests do
Speaker 2: you have?
Speaker 3: It's just some uh generic spooky looking chaos magic tribal
Speaker 3: shit I made up.
Speaker 2: I don't know you made it up?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I drew it.
Speaker 2: Are do you do? You do a lot of art?
Speaker 3: Not really? That's the thing is like I spread myself
Speaker 3: so thin. I do so many different things. So I
Speaker 3: don't know if you're familiar with instructor Bense, that guy
Speaker 3: that does rope d art and meteor hammer mm hmm,
Speaker 3: well it's basically U Scorpion for Mortal Kombat. I do
Speaker 3: that for fun. Lot a lot of self taught stuff too,
Speaker 3: Like I feel like I've made up moves before because
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 1: I do a lot of ship. I mainly want to
Speaker 1: write one day, if I can find the right artist,
Speaker 1: I'd love to make like a graphic novel or something.
Speaker 2: Have you ever had to get into a physical altercation?
Speaker 2: Have you ever had to like fight a guy or
Speaker 2: drag a guy out?
Speaker 3: Okay, I'll tell you a good story. So it's Halloween
Speaker 3: and penny Wise is getting really shit faced and he's
Speaker 3: like this beer sucks, fucking just.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, hilarious.
Speaker 3: He's like reeling character fucking you just goes this beer
Speaker 3: fucking sucks and spits on the floor, and I'm just like, dude,
Speaker 3: what the fuck are you an animal raised in a barn? Like,
Speaker 3: stop fuck out of here? And I just you know,
Speaker 3: I grabbed him. I grabbed his arms and put him
Speaker 3: behind his back and fucking walked him to the front.
Speaker 1: It wasn't anything.
Speaker 3: Too crazy, but I figured i'd answer your question with
Speaker 3: a funny one. I made his ass walk to the front.
Speaker 3: I didn't even throw him out the side door. I
Speaker 3: could have been nice, but every he had to do.
Speaker 1: The walk of shame.
Speaker 2: So are you still working as a bouncer right now?
Speaker 3: No, I'm currently working in a memory unit.
Speaker 2: What's a memory unit?
Speaker 3: Uh? So, it's basically in an old folks home. I
Speaker 3: work on the looney floor, like for when they are
Speaker 3: really gone.
Speaker 2: Oh I feel like you. I feel like you probably
Speaker 2: gained some transferable skills as.
Speaker 3: Yes, I've talked to who understands this. It's still people.
Speaker 3: It's still people.
Speaker 2: Tell me about this jump.
Speaker 3: Uh, I'm I do activity. So I hang out with
Speaker 3: them and like fucking make them rip your floats and
Speaker 3: fucking put Pee Wee's Playhouse on the TV and well,
Speaker 3: we have a blast.
Speaker 2: That's awesome, that's really cool. Have you okay? So I
Speaker 2: I let me ask you this more because if some
Speaker 2: of the if some of these people are a little unstable,
Speaker 2: have you had a lot of You've told me that
Speaker 2: you can talk a dog off a meat wagon. Have
Speaker 2: you had to diffuse any old folks home, like, have
Speaker 2: you had to break up any fights or anything?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, hit me, hit me.
Speaker 3: So there's this guy. I can't say names, but he thing.
Speaker 2: So he's just like, sorry, you cut out. Sorry, man,
Speaker 2: you cut you cind of cut you cut out? You
Speaker 2: cut out? Do you wanna say that again?
Speaker 3: Uh? So there's this one guy and he used to
Speaker 3: do accounting or something, but he got real worried about
Speaker 3: not seeing his wife because she comes by really often.
Speaker 3: And so he had this nurse just like in a
Speaker 3: death rip. And I went up to him and I
Speaker 3: was just like, man, it's okay, it's okay. She told
Speaker 3: you she was going to see the boys, Like it's
Speaker 3: all right, she went to her trip and whatever. I'm
Speaker 3: trying to avoid details because I'm not supposed to do that,
Speaker 3: but yeah, he was just looking me in the eye,
Speaker 3: telling me like no one told me that you didn't
Speaker 3: tell me that, and I'm like, dude, I said his
Speaker 3: name to him, and I'm like, dude, I know you.
Speaker 3: You know me. Have I ever lied to you? Have
Speaker 3: I ever steered you wrong?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 3: You know We're good, I promise you. And he ended
Speaker 3: up letting her hand go. I didn't have to like
Speaker 3: whip it off, thankfully.
Speaker 2: Calling you know. Working in the Memory unit.
Speaker 3: Almost a year now, I honestly it's good for the soul,
Speaker 3: like the bouncer jobs were, because I always really like
Speaker 3: that keeping people safe and stuff. That's always kind of
Speaker 3: been a passion. I could actually tell you the story
Speaker 3: of when I think I gained that, like where I
Speaker 3: really knew I wanted to do something like that, like security.
Speaker 3: But the memory unit is rough. It is rough because
Speaker 3: like you lose people all the time that and I
Speaker 3: do better in like a bar setting. I'd like to
Speaker 3: get back into what I was doing, but I just
Speaker 3: can't afford to live anywhere that has a scene. I'm
Speaker 3: stuck somewhere kind of close by, but the last train
Speaker 3: of the night leaves before i'd be able to get home,
Speaker 3: so my old thought is just not doable from here.
Speaker 2: What's your name? Again, Tom, Tom, It's interesting that you
Speaker 2: say you have a lot of anxiety because you're in
Speaker 2: a lot of kind of anxiety, because you seem to
Speaker 2: be in all these seemingly anxiety producing situations that you're
Speaker 2: you're able to keep calming.
Speaker 3: I feel great now, thank you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But you're able to keep You're able to keep
Speaker 2: calm in all these kind of crazy situations. It's like
Speaker 2: that's what you're being paid for.
Speaker 3: You know. The little things get me going. But like
Speaker 3: when when it's true crisis, when like the building's on fire,
Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, everyone, let's go.
Speaker 1: M That is what I'm like, mm hmmm.
Speaker 2: So what's your ultimate dream is you want to start
Speaker 2: making videos?
Speaker 1: I I mainly want to do that just so that
Speaker 1: I can get enough income to get back to a
Speaker 1: city with a real scene. I want to be a
Speaker 1: bouncer again and still be able to afford rent. Is
Speaker 1: essentially what I want to.
Speaker 3: Be able to do.
Speaker 1: I like just being around and keeping people safe because
Speaker 1: I feel like I do a good job. But I'm
Speaker 1: just not cut out to be a copy either, So
Speaker 1: like I come up with no nonsense policies. The bars
Speaker 1: still used to this day, like for example, if someone
Speaker 1: goes in the bathroom with a drink I was always
Speaker 1: a fan of, you know, instead of confiscating it in
Speaker 1: case they spiked it, look them in the eye and
Speaker 1: just be like, look, you can go through the whole
Speaker 1: rigmarole of getting that replaced, or you can just take
Speaker 1: a big swig of that in front of me, so
Speaker 1: I know that if there's anything in there, you're getting
Speaker 1: some too.
Speaker 2: What did what?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 2: What would typically happen when you would uh?
Speaker 5: Oh dude?
Speaker 3: I used that in like a hundred times, and people
Speaker 3: were always so much more excited and willing to do
Speaker 3: that then have to go through all the bullshit.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: What's the city I brought in the bathroom?
Speaker 2: What's a city that you would most want to be
Speaker 2: a part of their scene?
Speaker 3: I want to get back to Salem. I love it. Mmm.
Speaker 2: Where are you now? Can I ask?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 3: Currently in Gloucester?
Speaker 1: Not as not as good as a fake?
Speaker 2: And uh, do you got friends over there? At least?
Speaker 2: Do you have like homies or family?
Speaker 1: I got some pole who I hit up and like
Speaker 1: we do d D and stuff.
Speaker 2: Like I got my boyson very good.
Speaker 3: Now that.
Speaker 2: What hello, what the hell? Just happens.
Speaker 1: Yet.
Speaker 2: Oh hey, are you there?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Sorry, what was that?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Okay, we're keeping that in. That was like saying that
Speaker 2: was psychedelic anyway, what happened never? I don't even I
Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know, but we're keeping it in, okay,
Speaker 2: Tom right, yeah, Tom Hollow, Tom Hollow, you can go. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we can go first life if you want to, we
Speaker 2: can go first last name. You want to be first
Speaker 2: last name.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to get famous, right, so I gotta I
Speaker 3: gotta plug.
Speaker 2: Okay, here, let me look at your ship? What what
Speaker 2: is Tom Hollow? What is that on?
Speaker 3: Tom Hollow? Seven on TikTok? Right now, I'm trying.
Speaker 2: To I'm so excited to I'm so excited to see
Speaker 2: what you look like, because you probably I would be
Speaker 2: willing to bet that you look very different from Yeah,
Speaker 2: how you sound Tom Hollow? Sound?
Speaker 3: I hate it? I hate Oh. My wife's cool this.
Speaker 3: She thinks it's cute. She thinks I sound like the
Speaker 3: guy from the Thieves Guild and Skyrim, the guy that
Speaker 3: goes like this.
Speaker 2: I don't know, Tom Hollow. How do you spell tom?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Is it? Oh? There's two ends in what the fuck?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's.
Speaker 2: So grow What the hell? What is that? Tom? Are
Speaker 2: you still there?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: Tom is gone?
Speaker 5: Man?
Speaker 2: All right, Tom?
Speaker 1: Tom?
Speaker 2: All right? That was weird. What the hell was that is?
Speaker 2: He like on? Is he's he on? Like a landline?
Speaker 2: And his wife just picked up? I didn't I thought
Speaker 2: it was like a loan. I don't know he his
Speaker 2: wife was there, so maybe that was that's what that is?
Speaker 2: Was that a SoundBite? Okay, I'm gonna have to end
Speaker 2: the call if he doesn't get back to me and
Speaker 2: just a sec. But okay, Tom, Wait is he still there? Hello? Tom?
Speaker 2: All right? I think Tom's gone? All right, Tom's gone.
Speaker 2: I don't know what this is. This is a psychedelic
Speaker 2: we're keeping it all in, it's all staying there. Let
Speaker 2: me see if I can't call him back or if
Speaker 2: I have it? No, shit, I can't or can I
Speaker 2: hold on?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 2: Tom's gone? That sucks. I liked Tom. I could have
Speaker 2: kept talking to Tom for a while. I'm trying to
Speaker 2: find his fucking TikTok Wait, okay, maybe hold on. Let
Speaker 2: me see if I and get him back, this might
Speaker 2: be him. Hello, Okay, you're back? Wait, what's your what's
Speaker 2: your what's the what's the name? What's the user name?
Speaker 3: Hold on now, let me just put it in the chat.
Speaker 2: Okay, Oh, Thomas Hollow, Tom Hollow ninety Oh, oh okay,
Speaker 2: oh Tom Hollow in ninety seven.
Speaker 3: Hold on, Jack, I'm I'm terrible with phones. I'm working on.
Speaker 2: It, all right. I gotta know what you look like
Speaker 2: before the end of this thing. Okay, Tom Hollow ninety
Speaker 2: seven on TikTok No, Tom, just tell me what the
Speaker 2: thing is. It's all right, Well, you can't hear me.
Speaker 2: This is a cluster. Here we go, here we are. Oh,
Speaker 2: I see you? Uh crazy. I don't think you look
Speaker 2: that different from what I imagine from what I imagined you
Speaker 2: to be.
Speaker 3: Really, that's the first time I've ever heard that.
Speaker 5: Yo.
Speaker 3: I'm on the phone with a deck right now.
Speaker 2: I'm on the phone with actually no you Okay, Actually,
Speaker 2: maybe you look a little bit different. I mean I
Speaker 2: think it's the big hair and the beard.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think I maybe imagined you as more of like
Speaker 2: a little boy.
Speaker 1: What.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know why.
Speaker 3: I don't know about that.
Speaker 2: Well, Tom, let me ask you. Let me ask you.
Speaker 2: This is okay, everyone, everyone go follow fucking Thomas hollow seven,
Speaker 2: he's got unlicensed therapy, roped art, hot takes, and D
Speaker 2: and D means thanks.
Speaker 3: I appreciate that, Thomas.
Speaker 2: This was this was a this was a good conversation.
Speaker 2: I enjoyed talking to you. I hope that. I hope
Speaker 2: you keep doing your ship and you keep telling people
Speaker 2: your stories.
Speaker 3: On. Hold on, hold on. I would hate for this
Speaker 3: whole call to be a plug. I could give you,
Speaker 3: like a cool story.
Speaker 2: Oh well, well, if you want you want to give us,
Speaker 2: if you have a few more stories that you want
Speaker 2: to give us, you can give it to us.
Speaker 3: Dude, I could go on. This is what I'm trying
Speaker 3: to do. Okay, Okay, I'm so sorry that that took
Speaker 3: up any of this time. That's all right, Okay, uh
Speaker 3: you you give me a tone, and I've got a
Speaker 3: story for it. I could tell you a funny story.
Speaker 3: I could tell you a scary ass story.
Speaker 2: Let's hear how about this before we go, Let's hear
Speaker 2: one funny story.
Speaker 3: Okay, funny story again.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, you know what, fuck you, Tom? What
Speaker 2: story do you want to tell us?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 3: Man, okay, I'll tell you about a story from this morning,
Speaker 3: though was pretty funny. Okay, go ahead, So lee in
Speaker 3: my roommate, who's going to the gym with me every day.
Speaker 3: Five am. Where we just finished our workout and we
Speaker 3: went to go into the locker room and my boy
Speaker 3: over here holds the door open, like to let someone
Speaker 3: out who like is holding a towel with this poor
Speaker 3: old nash holding the fucking towel, and he almost did it.
Speaker 3: He almost walked out into the fucking ship. Can you
Speaker 3: believe that he held the door like And the old
Speaker 3: van was laughing too because he was like, I almost
Speaker 3: did it and just got banned from this gym for
Speaker 3: the rest of my life from.
Speaker 2: Oh because he was because he was just walking around naked.
Speaker 3: No, he was in a towel and my boy here
Speaker 3: held the door open. We were walking into the uh
Speaker 3: the locker room, and my buddy held the door open
Speaker 3: to like let the dude out even though he was
Speaker 3: in a towel. Like my boy wasn't paying attention, like
Speaker 3: trying to consider it.
Speaker 2: I see, I see, I see.
Speaker 3: Like ushering the dude out.
Speaker 2: M I kind of want to hear a scary story
Speaker 2: and then.
Speaker 3: Well, okay, okay, this is the freakiest shit that I
Speaker 3: will never be able to explain because it doesn't make
Speaker 3: any sense and it haunts me to this day. So
Speaker 3: me and my childhood friend Evans used to break into
Speaker 3: this fucking old building all the time, and everyone had
Speaker 3: a different explanation for what this building used to be.
Speaker 3: I've heard totally conflicting things, like someone said they used
Speaker 3: to make like certain parts for missiles that were used
Speaker 3: in a war or something. I called bullshit because there
Speaker 3: was like posters with little kids can Quinton kink, like
Speaker 3: it had to have been a preschool or something, but
Speaker 3: there was freaky shit in there. There was a desk
Speaker 3: that was chained to the wall. In the middle of
Speaker 3: the building. There was like a big metal room or
Speaker 3: elevator or something with like around green window. It made
Speaker 3: it look like it was like a fucking glowing reactor
Speaker 3: or something. I know, it was just like green window
Speaker 3: with light going through. But it was just an ominous
Speaker 3: ass fucking place and we just set that scene. We
Speaker 3: found this pile of books. They were like premium red leather,
Speaker 3: gold fucking numbers on the side. They were all part
Speaker 3: of like a set. Clearly, now we were like kid kids.
Speaker 3: They didn't know shit, and we used to like thatch
Speaker 3: Bell because so we needed a book.
Speaker 1: For a prop.
Speaker 3: We took it and I remember looking through that shit
Speaker 3: and on one side it would have names and then
Speaker 3: dusts all the way across the page, and on the
Speaker 3: others of that page it would say alive or deceased.
Speaker 3: I have no fucking idea what those books were, what
Speaker 3: they were records of, because they didn't have anything else
Speaker 3: going on. It was just names and alive were deceased,
Speaker 3: and uh. We ended up wrecking that book and we
Speaker 3: went back to get another one, and the Giant Pilot
Speaker 3: was fucking.
Speaker 2: Gone, very spooky, very Halloween.
Speaker 3: Very spooky, very like I just don't know no one.
Speaker 3: It's gonna harm me forever because I'm never gonna know
Speaker 3: what the fuck that was about.
Speaker 2: Maybe the books died and they're and disintegrated.
Speaker 3: No way, because we went back like a couple of
Speaker 3: days later. The one that we had did disintegrate because
Speaker 3: we left it under the porch like idiots, and it rained.
Speaker 3: That's why we went back to get another one, like
Speaker 3: just a couple of days later, and they were all gone.
Speaker 3: Maybe like a homeless person used them to like start
Speaker 3: a fire, like you were a cold like I've thought
Speaker 3: about this a lot and things that could have happened,
Speaker 3: but it's just weird.
Speaker 2: Well, Tom, thanks for sharing, Thanks for sharing your stories.
Speaker 2: We had the we had the haunted, we had the
Speaker 2: Haunted book. You're not You're You're a cool guy, man.
Speaker 2: I hope that you uh uh continue your journey through life.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm glad that you found a found found
Speaker 2: a found like a good lane to be in being,
Speaker 2: you know, a keeper of the piece. Thank you, brother.
Speaker 2: Is there anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 2: people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 3: No matter what you do, someone is gonna think that
Speaker 3: it's their full time job to make you feel like
Speaker 3: you're not doing ship. But as long as you know
Speaker 3: you're giving in you all, that's all that really matters.
Speaker 2: Hey, thanks for calling.
Speaker 1: Tom.
Speaker 2: Appreciate you have a go on guest. Okay, I am
Speaker 2: going to do a thing I've been doing on this
Speaker 2: podcast again, which is that I'm going to end the
Speaker 2: session by reading a few emails. I feel like that's
Speaker 2: a nice way to do it. We have a couple calls,
Speaker 2: we have a couple of emails. I don't know if
Speaker 2: I'm going to do it every podcast. I'm probably still
Speaker 2: going to do email only and call only episodes, but
Speaker 2: I kind of like, I'm kind of enjoying this thing
Speaker 2: of doing email only or doing like a little hybrid ones.
Speaker 2: So I'm just gonna read a couple of emails, not
Speaker 2: nothing crazy. If you want to be in one of
Speaker 2: these emails, you can send me an email at therapy
Speaker 2: geckomail at gmail dot com. It's therapy geckomail at gmail
Speaker 2: dot com. Okay, this is from Ania, Hey gek, longtime listener,
Speaker 2: first time emailer. Every now and then I call in
Speaker 2: hoping you'll answer, only to be met with the automated record.
Speaker 2: Hopefully one day we'll get a chance to talk. Anyway,
Speaker 2: I wanted to offer a recommendation for people trying to
Speaker 2: get out of the house volunteering. I started volunteering at
Speaker 2: an animal shelter a couple months ago, and it truly
Speaker 2: brings me joy. I work with the dogs, help out
Speaker 2: at the front desk, wash dishes, do laundry, I clean
Speaker 2: and it brings me joy and gets me out of
Speaker 2: the house. I've been working from home part time since
Speaker 2: COVID and I go to school part time. I live
Speaker 2: in North Philly in an apartment building with seven other units.
Speaker 2: You mentioned you went to Temple University. That's yeah, shout
Speaker 2: out to where you are living in my old stopping grounds.
Speaker 2: I enjoy being alone, which is cool because for a
Speaker 2: long time I was alone and lonely. Now I'm just
Speaker 2: by myself, which is a big difference. But I found
Speaker 2: that I was spending too much time alone and wanted
Speaker 2: to socialize, so I started volunteering and it brings me
Speaker 2: a lot of joy. I will also start volunteering at
Speaker 2: a bookstore that has an after school pro where I'll
Speaker 2: be helping out with the kids in my neighborhood. I'm
Speaker 2: nervous but excited for that as well. I haven't made
Speaker 2: any friends yet, but I've had great interactions and conversations
Speaker 2: with the people I volunteer with, and that has been
Speaker 2: fulfilling to me at this moment. So if anyone is interested,
Speaker 2: look into volunteering opportunities that pique your interest. Also, if
Speaker 2: you want to, also, can you share my emails so
Speaker 2: people can reach out to me. Sure this is spiritual
Speaker 2: black Girl. Okay, hold on, it's you gotta get a
Speaker 2: new spiritual black Girl at yahoo dot com. But black
Speaker 2: is spelled BLK and girl is no. Oh, there's no
Speaker 2: I in girl, so it's just g r L. Let's
Speaker 2: send an email to spiritual black Girl. Don't send her
Speaker 2: anything weird, just say hi, Hello, be cool. Okay. This
Speaker 2: is from Let's See Okay, actually I don't have any more. Okay,
Speaker 2: let's try Let's try this one. This is from Ripley,
Speaker 2: subject line third shift, dear Lyle. I work nights at
Speaker 2: a dog daycare and boarding facility, so I am alone
Speaker 2: a lot. There are people here for an hour at
Speaker 2: the start of my shift, and then after they leave,
Speaker 2: I have the building to myself for the rest of
Speaker 2: the night. This job is great because there is usually
Speaker 2: about two or three hours of actual work followed by
Speaker 2: whatever the hell I want. Most nights, after I'm done
Speaker 2: with work, I smoke a joint and watch movies or YouTube.
Speaker 2: And it feels amazing because I'm getting paid more than
Speaker 2: any other job I've had, and i have more freedom
Speaker 2: than I ever thought possible. But after six months of
Speaker 2: doing this job, I'm starting to feel like I've run
Speaker 2: out of things to do at night, and I'm getting lonely.
Speaker 2: I've never been an extrovert. I'm extremely shy, anxious, and
Speaker 2: bad at communicating, so I thought this job would be
Speaker 2: perfect for me. I basically isolated myself from all social interaction.
Speaker 2: At first, I liked it and I was really starting
Speaker 2: to learn more about myself. But now I'm craving friendship.
Speaker 2: I've tried putting myself out there by making friends with
Speaker 2: some of the people that work during the daytime, but
Speaker 2: they don't text me as much anymore and don't invite
Speaker 2: me when they do things together, so I convinced myself
Speaker 2: that I'm annoying them. Now I found a discord server
Speaker 2: full of voice chats with random people to practice having conversations,
Speaker 2: but I'm starting to learn that they aren't filled with
Speaker 2: the best kinds of people. I'm pretty sure this job
Speaker 2: is a safety net that turned into a hammock, and
Speaker 2: I'm not sure what to do. That was a saying
Speaker 2: I got from your show that really stuck with me.
Speaker 2: I was wondering where I heard that before. I guess, yeah,
Speaker 2: somebody said it. Listening to your show, while always helps
Speaker 2: me get out of my own thoughts. The way you
Speaker 2: talk to everyone is hold on, boy, I think about
Speaker 2: this piece of advice. Thank you for your show, Thank
Speaker 2: you Ripley. Sorry I don't like to. I feel weird
Speaker 2: reading emails of people glazing me. I don't know if
Speaker 2: that makes me a dick, but I feel but I
Speaker 2: appreciate you. Appreciate you, Ripley. Thank you. Also, I love
Speaker 2: when you take your shirt off. He didn't phrase it
Speaker 2: like that. He said, I love the shirtless Gack episodes. Anyway, Ripley, Well,
Speaker 2: I don't. I mean, I could say the same thing you.
Speaker 2: I mean, I've I've been talking about this over and
Speaker 2: over again. But yeah, I don't know. I mean, I
Speaker 2: think the discord chat is a good one. You could
Speaker 2: find more discords. Hmm, what else could you do? I
Speaker 2: don't know. I don't, I'm I'm I don't. I I
Speaker 2: uh hmm. Sorry, I'm having a brain fart right now.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I I hope Ripley finds something to do.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I can't. I'm not. I can't give advice
Speaker 2: in this very moment. I don't, I don't, I but
Speaker 2: I hope Ripley finds something good to do with his life.
Speaker 2: This was is it? Is it bad to have an
Speaker 2: advice podcast and then just not give advice? I don't
Speaker 2: know if I wouldn't consider this an advice podcast. What
Speaker 2: else can I say about things? I don't know if
Speaker 2: I have anything else to say. I'm gonna rant for
Speaker 2: a bit. I'm just gonna rant. Someone in the chat
Speaker 2: said finding friends in adulthood is hard. It is, but
Speaker 2: I believe that, you know, if you put yourself out there,
Speaker 2: you'll find things to do. You know, someone asked people
Speaker 2: still use Yahoo? They do. I don't know why, man,
Speaker 2: smoking weed and watching YouTube is fun. I get why
Speaker 2: you're in I get why you're having a good time
Speaker 2: smoking weed and watching YouTube. I'm not gonna say that
Speaker 2: I think you're crazy for smoking weed and watching YouTube.
Speaker 2: I really, uh, I really do get you. Okay, let's
Speaker 2: do one more. This is from Cameron, subject line I
Speaker 2: want to cross dress, but I'm afraid. Hey, Gek, you
Speaker 2: can call me Cameron. I am a twenty one year
Speaker 2: old male and I want to start cross dressing, but
Speaker 2: I am afraid. I've always loved the more feminine side
Speaker 2: of life, and I want to start dressing and acting
Speaker 2: more feminine. But I feel afraid all of my coworkers
Speaker 2: and family are either super religious or homophobic. I have
Speaker 2: told my friends about this, and they understand and are
Speaker 2: perfectly fine with how I act and dress, which is
Speaker 2: a big help. I live a few blocks down for
Speaker 2: my parents, so I dress up at home sometimes, but
Speaker 2: I want to dress up in public as well. I
Speaker 2: guess I'm just afraid of what everyone's expectations of me
Speaker 2: are and how people feel about me. I would also
Speaker 2: like to have a boyfriend, but my family has said
Speaker 2: they would disown me if I ever dated a man.
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm trapped from I'm trapped of be
Speaker 2: away from being my true self. Thanks for listening to me, Rant.
Speaker 2: I hope you have an amazing day and thanks for
Speaker 2: all you do. Sincerely, Cameron, thank you for sending this email. Cameron,
Speaker 2: beautiful time time for a straight white man to give
Speaker 2: advice on a podcast about being yourself, and I will
Speaker 2: do that gladly, Cameron. Cameron, Cameron well Man, well Ka, honestly, Camera,
Speaker 2: if you're listening to me right now, I'm gonna assume
Speaker 2: you you you're you're twenty one. I'm assuming you're still
Speaker 2: living in the town that you grew up in, and
Speaker 2: I understand it's a difficult economy, but when I read
Speaker 2: this email, I'm like, fuck, man, this guy's got to
Speaker 2: go find a place to be, you know, because I think, wait,
Speaker 2: hold on, well, I'm I'm you live, you don't live
Speaker 2: with your parents. You live down the block from your parents.
Speaker 2: I'm but I feel for you. I feel for you, man,
Speaker 2: I'm really sorry. It's it's a it's a fucking damn
Speaker 2: shame that your parents said that to you. I really
Speaker 2: I'm sorry to hear that they said that to you.
Speaker 2: That's a fucking damn shame. But you can't let your
Speaker 2: parents uh stop you from living your life. You know
Speaker 2: what I mean. You don't. You don't need I assume
Speaker 2: that you're not financially reliant upon them because you don't
Speaker 2: live in the same place as they do. And look,
Speaker 2: the way I see it, brother, is is if your
Speaker 2: rent is paid, do whatever you want. You know, I
Speaker 2: I think, I think, Cameron, listen to me. If you
Speaker 2: want to have a boyfriend, if you want to date guys,
Speaker 2: please please please please please do not let you know,
Speaker 2: I mean, you're an adult man, like, don't let your
Speaker 2: family stop you from doing that shit. Don't let your
Speaker 2: family stop you from like living your life. You know.
Speaker 2: It's it was nice of them to birth you into existence,
Speaker 2: but beyond that, you can't you can't let them dictate
Speaker 2: your shit. You know, it sounds like you live in
Speaker 2: a b It sounds like you live in a bad place,
Speaker 2: or not a bad bad place is a strong thing. Sorry,
Speaker 2: my brain is running out of energy. But you gotta
Speaker 2: get out. You gotta go see the world somehow, because
Speaker 2: it seems like it sounds like you're in like a
Speaker 2: like a red state small town where everyone is like
Speaker 2: super religious and homophobic, and it's like, Bro, Cameron, come
Speaker 2: to Bushwick, Brooklyn, brother, come to Bushwick, Brooklyn, go to
Speaker 2: fucking Portland, go to like like, oh my god, Like
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, you're twenty one. I get it.
Speaker 2: You got good friends, you got family. Economy is hard,
Speaker 2: but like, fucking get your ass out there in the world,
Speaker 2: my friend, because he's the thing. He seems like if
Speaker 2: you grew up in a place where like everyone's like
Speaker 2: religious and homophobic and crazy. I don't know much about you, Cameron.
Speaker 2: I don't know where you've traveled or where you've been
Speaker 2: or anything like that, but like you're gonna, dude, like
Speaker 2: if you go to Bushwick, your head's gonna fucking explode.
Speaker 2: You're gonna be like, holy shit, I didn't realize that
Speaker 2: there was a all these sanctuaries all over the world
Speaker 2: of people just doing whatever the fuck they want, you know,
Speaker 2: and it hurts it hurts my heart to hear that you, uh,
Speaker 2: your family said that they would disown you. That's that's
Speaker 2: that that really fucking success. I feel for you on that,
Speaker 2: But you can't let that dictate what you're gonna do
Speaker 2: with your life. Try you, I don't know, try your
Speaker 2: best to figure out how you can get the fuck
Speaker 2: out somewhere else. If you've been living, if you've been
Speaker 2: living in the religious, homophobic, like small ass town for
Speaker 2: all twenty one years of your life, like, listen, you do,
Speaker 2: you man, but like you should try to you should
Speaker 2: try to give a little shot at seeing what life
Speaker 2: might be like, seeing if you if you can find
Speaker 2: a job in some other you know, even just like
Speaker 2: I don't know what state you live in, but I'm
Speaker 2: sure there's a large city in whatever state you're in
Speaker 2: where you'll find other people and you'll find interesting uh
Speaker 2: communities and scenarios where like where you're like, oh shit,
Speaker 2: these people think I'm weird for not being dressed up
Speaker 2: as a lady. You know, So I'll help you I'll
Speaker 2: help you, uh find, find find or create some opportunity
Speaker 2: for yourself to expand beyond those horizons and like live
Speaker 2: your fucking live your life, dude. That's the That's the
Speaker 2: main takeaway I'm getting from the email is like you're
Speaker 2: scared to live your life because you were just It's
Speaker 2: like you're scared to live your life because your parents
Speaker 2: are assholes and they didn't encourage you to live your life.
Speaker 2: But I think you should live your life. Man. I
Speaker 2: don't know if that was I don't know if that
Speaker 2: motivational speech was anything, but but we did it. We
Speaker 2: did a motivational speech, and we did a podcast, and
Speaker 2: we talked to people. We talked to Thomas, and we
Speaker 2: talked to Hank the fart Man, and we had a
Speaker 2: good time. I think we had a good time. This
Speaker 2: was good. I had a good time. I'm gonna go
Speaker 2: send an email and do a push up and drink
Speaker 2: a cup of water. Bless you all, Thank you for listening.
Speaker 2: See you again on Sunday. Bobbye. Hello, folks, it's Lyle here.
Speaker 2: That's the end of this episode. But get this, I'm
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Speaker 5: Well, I can't stop masturbating.
Speaker 2: You can't stop masturbating, Nope.
Speaker 5: I mean, for example, one day, this girl came into
Speaker 5: work and she was just straight up like butt naked,
Speaker 5: and I was like, well, it's just like God toying
Speaker 5: with me. At this point, I was the only cash
Speaker 5: here and I had to make everyone wait so I
Speaker 5: could go in the bathroom and jerk off.
Speaker 2: Isn't that stressful though? Like having to come while you
Speaker 2: know that there's a bunch of people waiting for you
Speaker 2: that cause that's like double It's like when you take
Speaker 2: a shit in a single stall bathroom and you know
Speaker 2: that there's a line outside of it or did that
Speaker 2: like stress not even occur to you because you just
Speaker 2: were so checked out.
Speaker 5: The stress of needing to jerk off is much greater
Speaker 5: than the stress of the social political environment of my job.
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Speaker 2: episode description that's therapy Gecko dot supercast dot com. All right,
Speaker 2: I have nothing else to say.
Speaker 5: Those on the line.
Speaker 2: Taking your phone calls every night.
Speaker 5: Never big Get goes to his hide.
Speaker 4: He's teaching you to a housing over your life, but
Speaker 4: he's
Speaker 2: Not really an expert.