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Speaker 1: Hello, Hi.

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Speaker 2: How's it going?

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Speaker 1: I'm very good? How are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm good? Is this Hank?

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Speaker 1: It is?

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Speaker 3: It is?

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Speaker 1: How are you?

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Speaker 2: How am I? I'm doing well. I'm enjoying life. It's

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Speaker 2: another day at the office. How are you, Hank?

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Speaker 1: You know what it's going as well too. I wasn't

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Speaker 1: expecting your thoughts.

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Speaker 2: Well, Hank, what brings you to call in today?

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Speaker 1: Well, I gat mailed you a month or two, a

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Speaker 1: few months ago. Actually, I thought you would be interested

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Speaker 1: about my curious interest?

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Speaker 2: What was your gat mail?

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Speaker 1: That? I have a fetish for suffering, and often that

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Speaker 1: manifests with girls parting on me.

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Speaker 2: I remember the femail? Yes, I remember the femail. I'm

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Speaker 2: going to see if I can pull it up. Actually,

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Speaker 2: I'll read it back for the chat here, or I'll

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Speaker 2: read it back for the for the for the podcast listeners.

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Speaker 2: Let's see, did you put your name in the cemail?

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Speaker 2: Here we go? Yes? Okay, Hey, gak, this is Hank.

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Speaker 2: Since being sixteen years old, I've had a fetish for suffering,

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Speaker 2: but without liking physical pain during sexual activities. So this

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Speaker 2: manifests to me being made to smell or taste unpleasant things,

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Speaker 2: usually foods. I hate being farted on by a beautiful

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Speaker 2: girl turns me on more than anything else. Interesting. Interesting.

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Speaker 2: So how did you? How did you? How did you

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Speaker 2: begin to do?

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Speaker 1: You go ahead and say the second off, what email

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Speaker 1: baffled you even more?

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Speaker 2: If I remember, well, well, you know, well listen, fuck

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Speaker 2: this email, let's just talk. Tell me, tell me more.

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Speaker 1: Wow. So what was your question? How did I first

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Speaker 1: discover this? Yeah, that is a great question. I'm going

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Speaker 1: to try and make this relatable in a way and

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Speaker 1: see if you know what I mean. I would say

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Speaker 1: I didn't know much about my sexuality and even like

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Speaker 1: finding their attractive until I was like fifteen or sixteen.

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Speaker 1: But before then I would just have this like curiosity

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Speaker 1: about gross things like that, for example, And I didn't

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Speaker 1: find them gross. I found them like almost enjoyable. But

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Speaker 1: obviously this is in a complete non sexual way. So

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Speaker 1: I think there's people out there before they sort of

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Speaker 1: hit maybe puberty or pre pubescent and before they know

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Speaker 1: about weird type of shites. I always imagine foot guys

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Speaker 1: always if i'd thinking about feet, even when they're like

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Speaker 1: thirteen years old. But I don't know, I've never met

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Speaker 1: a foot flesh guy to ask them, Well, I probably

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Speaker 1: met them, just know that that's what they're into.

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Speaker 2: But you have such an idea. What's funny is you

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Speaker 2: have such a polite British candor that it's really hard

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Speaker 2: for me to imagine somebody farting on you.

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Speaker 1: And my last two girlfriends have both told me that

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Speaker 1: I come across as those vanilla like if you completely

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Speaker 1: ignore this, I'm a very normal guy. I'm I work,

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Speaker 1: I work in healthcare, I live, I live in a flat,

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Speaker 1: an apartment. Sorry, and I've just got a pretty normal

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Speaker 1: life then and then there's just this like weird quirk

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Speaker 2: So have you had a lot of different women fart

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd say about seven.

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Speaker 2: Eight all right, And how does that conversation usually go?

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Speaker 1: It depends I read the room and over the year,

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Speaker 1: I'm twenty seven now, fantastic age. Over the years, I've

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Speaker 2: And of all of that, how many how many long

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Speaker 1: I've been in the one of them when I was

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Speaker 2: And what did all wear? All three of them down

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Speaker 1: With my first ever relationship, like I said, a fifteen

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Speaker 1: Now we're about seventeen by this point. Yeah, the relationship

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Speaker 1: on together till our date until we're eighteen. And that

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Speaker 1: But yeah, the obviously long tired relationships, both of them

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Speaker 2: You has there ever been a situation where you approach

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Speaker 1: Never in the comp never in like a relationship. We no,

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Speaker 1: You've got to know your audience. That's always a good

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Speaker 1: lesson in life. But no one's ever been like completely disgusted.

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Speaker 1: And the more I live, the more that surprises me.

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Speaker 1: And the more I just think, you know, people like

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Speaker 1: and I'll pretty much do anything. Whoever I'm weird is

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Speaker 1: Part of that is because I can't say I want

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Speaker 1: you to set my face and want your fart of me,

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Speaker 1: but then you're one request. Oh absolutely not. That's kind

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Speaker 2: What are some things that you've tried because of that

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Speaker 1: Piss play? Not saying I've ever been interested in but

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Speaker 1: her a girl wanted to piss on me, so I

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Speaker 2: And how is that? Uh?

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Speaker 1: It's once once again I'm asking girl. I'm asking girls

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Speaker 1: to was knife play, and that's just a little bit

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Speaker 2: Interesting, where do they want to put the knife?

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Speaker 1: Press it around their neck and body? They wanted need

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Speaker 1: to cress it around their neck and their body? Oh?

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay did they ever? Did they want to ever?

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Speaker 1: I've never had more than a finger up and I

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Speaker 2: Okay. How about pegging, I feel like that's the one

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Speaker 2: thing that people I feel pegging is heart Now. I

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Speaker 1: Well, I've always I've always been very conflicted about that

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Speaker 2: And piss played. A girl wanted to pee on you?

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Speaker 2: And how did it? How did how did that feel

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Speaker 1: have just been a slightly more pleasant experience. Interesting because

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Speaker 1: I like, I like to be dominated, and that's a

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Speaker 2: Say, tell dive more into that's an interest. You're very

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Speaker 1: So if a girl's if I'm tied up and a

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Speaker 1: I think that definitely comes from just like a primary submissive,

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Speaker 1: That makes dating hard?

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Speaker 1: Yes, I am, but I'm dating. Yeah, I'm like talking

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Speaker 1: just going to say, it's difficult to know, like because

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Speaker 1: so then find out that, like you're completely sexually incompatible,

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Speaker 1: farted on a guy? There's like a line. And sometimes

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Speaker 1: because like I said, I'm twenty seven, that's like you've

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Speaker 1: And sometimes if there's someone who I'm not like sexually

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Speaker 1: every other way we're compatible. I kind of feel a

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Speaker 1: I being immature? That the wrong decision? But ultimately I

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Speaker 2: No, I agree, I agree, I agree. And also it's

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Speaker 2: you know, you've decided that it's important to you, that's

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Speaker 2: that's important.

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Speaker 1: But then I don't I don't need a dominate trix,

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Speaker 1: just someone who's got like quite an open mind. Because

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Speaker 1: I think you said pegging's very in, like like sitting

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Speaker 2: like you don't you don't. Well, it's kind of like

439
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 2: personality in the sense of like you don't choose your personality,

440
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 2: but you also, I guess, kind of do a little bit.

441
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,159
Speaker 1: Yeah. You can feed into different areas if you can.

442
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's like you have these wolves in your head

443
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 2: and you can choose to feed them or not it's

444
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 2: probably it's probably a little bit more how it is.

445
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't you don't like start out with it.

446
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 1: No, I can't think of any sort so one here's

447
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,719
Speaker 1: one interesting sort of As I said, I looked at

448
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,399
Speaker 1: a lot of psychology of this. I'm definitely not a psychologist.

449
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,479
Speaker 2: Not hit me, but no, neither am I. Neither am I.

450
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 1: The closest I've got is if you've gone for a

451
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 1: traumatic childhood where you have suffered a lot as a child.

452
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,879
Speaker 1: As an adult, you'll say, used to suffering, you almost

453
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 1: want to harness that suffering and you want to be

454
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:55,920
Speaker 1: able to control that suffering. That's the closest I've got.

455
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,680
Speaker 1: But that's even just from a very general general sort

456
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 1: of b DSM just being tied up or anything like that.

457
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,439
Speaker 1: Like you've not been in control as a child, so

458
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,160
Speaker 1: I'm an adult that's manifested and she wanted to control that,

459
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 1: control that. Yeah.

460
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 2: I went to the AVN convention like three years ago,

461
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 2: the like the big porn convention, and I was talking

462
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 2: to Yeah, I was talking to some people there who

463
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,119
Speaker 2: were like really who are like big BDSM people, And

464
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 2: they mentioned that they were like, oh, a lot of

465
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 2: this is like people who experienced some kind of like

466
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:32,160
Speaker 2: trauma and they want to like uh uh yeah, harness

467
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,959
Speaker 2: it in like a way of their own choosing. I mean,

468
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 2: is that you is that like? Did you? I mean,

469
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 2: if you want to talk about it, did you have

470
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 2: did you get like far along a lot as a child?

471
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,159
Speaker 1: Well? I think I when any suffering I've had as

472
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 1: a child is very normal. It's like parents split up,

473
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 1: abusive father never to me, but it's a family and

474
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,639
Speaker 1: an alcoholic and a drug user, so sort of that

475
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 1: general sort of suffering of being in a bad environment.

476
00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 1: But I can't think of any specific like unpleasant smells

477
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 1: or unpleasant tastes or anything like lap so kind of

478
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 1: hat kind of half half mark there, half marked. But

479
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 1: I think that's why I'm submissive, probably because that's probably

480
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:13,160
Speaker 1: what I'm submissive.

481
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

482
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 2: What else? What else do you do you need to?

483
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 2: Do you like to be farther on every time you

484
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 2: have sex? Or do you is it so? Is it

485
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,719
Speaker 2: every time? Or are you able to just have regular

486
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 2: normal sex? And you're like this is.

487
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 1: Fine, Yeah, I couldn't just have regular normal sex. I

488
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:41,360
Speaker 1: enjoy that as much like usually when it when if

489
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 1: you're doing the farting thing. That's not gonna then be

490
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 1: punished to sex because logistically that's a little bit challenging.

491
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 1: So then usually that's like sixty nine or something like that.

492
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, I enjoy just penetrative, regular sex and doggie

493
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 1: and I canna say it's not it's just it's an ass.

494
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 1: I love that, so you know, ali ass and yeah,

495
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 1: boggie and all. That's absolutely great.

496
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,439
Speaker 2: The way you, the way you say these things with

497
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 2: your British accent is really funny.

498
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 1: I've always been told I'm well spoken, even for like

499
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 1: my even for being in the English countryside. It probably

500
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 1: sounds disproportionately oosh and well spoken for you.

501
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 2: What do you do for a living, Hank? What's the

502
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 2: I'm curious, But briefly before we go, I want to

503
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 2: hear about your life outside of farts. I'm curious.

504
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 1: So I work for I work for healthcare, work and

505
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 1: the ambulance service.

506
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 2: Right, Okay, sorry you mentioned that a bunch of times.

507
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 1: M hm. So yeah, when I'm in Mandoon people's houses,

508
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 1: that's what I don't ask for girl's numbers.

509
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 2: That makes sense. What's your go ahead? Go ahead?

510
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say I come. I also come

511
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 1: across that work from some gross or disgusting things. But

512
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 1: in the same way that the guy who's like into

513
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 1: feet doesn't find all feet attractive, and they can look

514
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 1: at feet in a platonic way. I'm very much in control.

515
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 1: I've never been turned on at work because of something gross.

516
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,360
Speaker 1: Even just like if someone I'm with is like farts,

517
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 1: I won't be turned on by that. It's very specifically

518
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 1: the girls who I'm like attracted to, or it's very

519
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 1: much in the context.

520
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 2: You ever been in like an elevator and a lady

521
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,679
Speaker 2: like farts in the elevator and that does something for you.

522
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 1: I haven't been in that situation, but if it was

523
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: a very hot girl, it would be interesting to know

524
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 1: what my brain would do.

525
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 2: Or I guess a lift, Yeah, a lift.

526
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 1: Well, that's true.

527
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 2: It's been nice talking to you, Hank. You're you're a

528
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 2: nice guy. You're a pleasant guy. What's your dream in life?

529
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 2: Before we go with see what do you want ultimately

530
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 2: in your life?

531
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 1: Hank? Well, a very sort of traditional sort of I

532
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 1: just want to live in a in a house in

533
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 1: the countryside, with a loving life, go to work, come home,

534
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: live on not like a farm. We call it a

535
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 1: small holding. Have you got small holdings in America?

536
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 2: What is it? What is there? What's a small holding?

537
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 1: So it's like a it's like a tiny farm or

538
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 1: like a hobby farm or things like that. So you're

539
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 1: not like keeping hundreds of cows for a profit, but

540
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:21,640
Speaker 1: like you might have like a pet cow, a couple

541
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 1: of goats, or like a couple of ducks and geese.

542
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 1: So you know, a house in the countryside of a

543
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 1: bit of land and just yeah, just a pretty normal life,

544
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 1: if there is such a thing as a normal life,

545
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: a life where you would walk into it if you

546
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,239
Speaker 1: were if you were the postman or the mailman, or

547
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 1: you know, you walk past his house, you would never

548
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: think that guy's probably going to get fired on later.

549
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 1: You'd never know. There'd be no signs.

550
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 2: Thank you for calling, Hank. Is there anything else you

551
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 2: want to say to the people of the computer before

552
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 2: we go?

553
00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 1: Just make sure that make sure that you're friends are okay.

554
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 1: Recently in my area of work, Lesbion an increase in

555
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: suicides this year, so just just checking on people, make

556
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 1: sure make sure they don't make.

557
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 2: Any Thank you, Hank. You have a good rest of

558
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 2: your entire life.

559
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 1: Stay awesome. Get see around the universe by Hank.

560
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 2: What a nice guy? What a what a what a

561
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 2: beautiful soul? See I believe, I love, I love. I

562
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 2: don't think you have to be all things at once.

563
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 2: I really don't. Look at Hank. Hank is a is

564
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 2: a supportive friend. He's a Hank is a supportive friend.

565
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 2: He's a good citizen. He works hard for people in need,

566
00:29:56,080 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 2: and he loves eating farts. And he can he can

567
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 2: be all those things at once. I remember this, folks.

568
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 2: This is important when you think, folks, when you think

569
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 2: people talking, this is a real thing. And I had

570
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 2: to deal with this in my own life, and I

571
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 2: think people deal with it. And there's you. Sometimes it's

572
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 2: easy to think that you have that every part of

573
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 2: your existence has to be perfectly, neatly aligned, But it doesn't.

574
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 2: You can be all you can be all kinds of

575
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 2: conflicting things. Shout out to Hank, Hobi Obiah finds his heart.

576
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 3: Queen, no way, I'm on with the cat.

577
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 2: What's up, buddy? How you doing good?

578
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 3: How are you?

579
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 2: I'm actually I'm pretty good. I'm sure. I don't I

580
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 2: can't really complain about anything. It's another day at the

581
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 2: at the motherfucking office. What's going on with you, buddy?

582
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 3: Currently having like, Oh my god, I can't believe I'm

583
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 3: on with you right now. Okay, give me one second, go.

584
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 2: Ahead, take a time, brother, What are you having?

585
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm on with the geck, don't blow.

586
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 2: It to blow What do you? What? Are you having.

587
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 3: A little bit of anxiety because I'm just so happy

588
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 3: to talk to you? Hmm?

589
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 2: Do I do you normally get Do you normally get anxious? Uh?

590
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 3: Just like in life, And it depends on the situation,

591
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 3: certain social situations. For sure. I get a particular anxiety

592
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 3: about the phone. Yeah, because I think I found dumb

593
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 3: on the phone. But it's fine, dude.

594
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 2: It's interesting. I've talked to a lot of people over

595
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 2: the years who said they have specifically anxiety about phone calls,

596
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 2: like it would be almost more anxious for them to

597
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 2: make a phone call than it would to like talk

598
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 2: to someone in real life. I don't know if that's you,

599
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 2: but I've heard people say that is that is that you?

600
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 3: I have way easier of the time. I've been trying

601
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 3: to get over that because I kind of want to

602
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 3: do what you do a little bit, But I kind

603
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 3: of have a mix of things that I want to

604
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 3: do on the internet. It's my content is a lot

605
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 3: more ADHD. It's all over the place. But I don't

606
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 3: know shit, man, I want to do like story times

607
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:46,959
Speaker 3: and stuff. I've had a lot of interesting jobs and

608
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 3: like a lot of interesting experiences that a lot of

609
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 3: people haven't had. So I feel like I've got a

610
00:32:53,600 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 3: lot of advice I could offer, But the anxieties crazy.

611
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 2: Wait, so you don't have to live, You don't have

612
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 2: to like you don't have to like pick the best

613
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 2: one or like psych yourself out about it. But like, what,

614
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 2: what's like an example of one of these experiences that

615
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 2: you feel like not a lot of people have had.

616
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 3: Shit, Where do I start? I was one of the

617
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 3: few kids who like, once you get into the foster system,

618
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 3: usually you like don't get back with your parents. But

619
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 3: my mom fought really hard and got me back. That's

620
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 3: one thing.

621
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 2: Wait, why I thought like she like she you were

622
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 2: taking it, like CPS took you away or something.

623
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 3: Essentially because it was hard for her to get on

624
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 3: her feet after escaping. My dad he is another type

625
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 3: of monster any of itself. But my mom's fucking awesome.

626
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 3: I call her on Father's Day. She gets both days,

627
00:33:59,040 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 3: you know what I mean?

628
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 2: Fuck, yeah, that's cool. That's awesome. Like, damn, you did

629
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 2: the work. I like that you did the work of

630
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 2: both parents. You get both days. Oh hell yeah, that's cool.

631
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 2: How long are you you foster care for?

632
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 3: Not long, maybe like two three months. But I was

633
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 3: really young and surprised. It's like one of my first memories.

634
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,399
Speaker 3: They were those people were terrible. I'm glad my mom

635
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 3: got me back.

636
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 1: Let me say that really.

637
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like when I went to see her, like I

638
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 3: wanted to bring this dinosaur one time, and they were like,

639
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 3: you can't take anything with you when you go to

640
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 3: see her, And uh, you can't take anything from her

641
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 3: anymore either. I think she gave it to me in

642
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 3: the first place. But uh, how old are you do

643
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 3: a ship like that? Almost have been like, oh my god,

644
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 3: eight seven ish?

645
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 2: Dude, you know what's I'm sure you feel this way strongly,

646
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 2: but like, I don't know, I don't have the Maybe

647
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 2: I'm missing some kind of context because like I've never

648
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 2: really I've never like worked with kids. I've never been

649
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 2: like a I don't you know, I don't have kids

650
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 2: I've never been like a teacher or like a counsel

651
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 2: or any of that shit. But like, dude, growing like

652
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 2: once you like get older and then you like start

653
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 2: to think back about like teachers who were dicks or like,

654
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 2: you know, like caretakers who were dicks, you start to

655
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,879
Speaker 2: start to be bro. You start to be you start

656
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:37,320
Speaker 2: to be like, how the fuck could a grown ass

657
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 2: man or woman be such an asshole to like a kid?

658
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 2: You know, Like it's like when I think about like

659
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 2: shit like teachers said to me or yelled at me

660
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 2: about or anything like that, I'm like, how did you

661
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 2: have the capacity to be that way to a kid? Dude?

662
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 3: It's just low intelligence, man. They are just not emotionally

663
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 3: intelligent at all. The other thing that's pretty interesting is

664
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 3: I'll say my voice doesn't match what I look like.

665
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 3: I'm kind of a big dude. My main gig for

666
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 3: a long time is being a bouncer. But I barely

667
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 3: had any altercations because I can talk a dog off

668
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:21,240
Speaker 3: a meat wagon. It's one of my skills.

669
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 2: What kind of club were you bouncer at?

670
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,720
Speaker 3: Uh? You know the City World of Witches?

671
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 2: Guide City World of Witches.

672
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 3: You know the city where all the witches died.

673
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,720
Speaker 2: Oh I thought you said, do you know the City

674
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 2: World of Witches guide? Now Salem, Salem?

675
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 3: So that was my stomping grounds. I did like on

676
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 3: the big.

677
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 2: H you're cutting out, You're cutting.

678
00:36:54,719 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 3: Out, Okay, so I'll try that again. I did three

679
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 3: different bars on the main street in that city that

680
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 3: like all the tourists, it's like the where everything goes on.

681
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 2: Can I can I get an idea?

682
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 5: How?

683
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 1: Oh?

684
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 2: Sorry, go ahead, go ahead, la finished.

685
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 3: The main one that did was called Coodo, and it

686
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:29,720
Speaker 3: was basically like sushi restaurant during the day, metal club

687
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 3: at night, with like a bunch of different events that

688
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 3: happened every month. They got like gay night and dark

689
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 3: night and eighties night.

690
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 2: Can I get an idea of how?

691
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 5: Like?

692
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 2: What do you look like? How tall are you? How

693
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 2: much do you weigh?

694
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:55,240
Speaker 3: I am six foot even and I'm currently two hundred

695
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 3: and seventy eight pounds, But I just started hitting the

696
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 3: gym again, so I'm gonna get really big.

697
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 2: Real big, really Oh shit? Okay, all right, yeah I know,

698
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,919
Speaker 2: And now I gotta picture of you. Now I don't

699
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 2: want to fuck with you.

700
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 3: I got face tats too.

701
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 2: Really you have facetat. What kind of face tests do

702
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 2: you have?

703
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 3: It's just some uh generic spooky looking chaos magic tribal

704
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 3: shit I made up.

705
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 2: I don't know you made it up?

706
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I drew it.

707
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 2: Are do you do? You do a lot of art?

708
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 3: Not really? That's the thing is like I spread myself

709
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 3: so thin. I do so many different things. So I

710
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 3: don't know if you're familiar with instructor Bense, that guy

711
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 3: that does rope d art and meteor hammer mm hmm,

712
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 3: well it's basically U Scorpion for Mortal Kombat. I do

713
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 3: that for fun. Lot a lot of self taught stuff too,

714
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 3: Like I feel like I've made up moves before because

715
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 3: I don't.

716
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: I do a lot of ship. I mainly want to

717
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,320
Speaker 1: write one day, if I can find the right artist,

718
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: I'd love to make like a graphic novel or something.

719
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 2: Have you ever had to get into a physical altercation?

720
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 2: Have you ever had to like fight a guy or

721
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 2: drag a guy out?

722
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 3: Okay, I'll tell you a good story. So it's Halloween

723
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:41,280
Speaker 3: and penny Wise is getting really shit faced and he's

724
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 3: like this beer sucks, fucking just.

725
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, hilarious.

726
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 3: He's like reeling character fucking you just goes this beer

727
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 3: fucking sucks and spits on the floor, and I'm just like, dude,

728
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 3: what the fuck are you an animal raised in a barn? Like,

729
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 3: stop fuck out of here? And I just you know,

730
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 3: I grabbed him. I grabbed his arms and put him

731
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 3: behind his back and fucking walked him to the front.

732
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 1: It wasn't anything.

733
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 3: Too crazy, but I figured i'd answer your question with

734
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 3: a funny one. I made his ass walk to the front.

735
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 3: I didn't even throw him out the side door. I

736
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 3: could have been nice, but every he had to do.

737
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: The walk of shame.

738
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 2: So are you still working as a bouncer right now?

739
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 3: No, I'm currently working in a memory unit.

740
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 2: What's a memory unit?

741
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 3: Uh? So, it's basically in an old folks home. I

742
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 3: work on the looney floor, like for when they are

743
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 3: really gone.

744
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 2: Oh I feel like you. I feel like you probably

745
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:55,240
Speaker 2: gained some transferable skills as.

746
00:40:55,880 --> 00:41:01,720
Speaker 3: Yes, I've talked to who understands this. It's still people.

747
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:03,800
Speaker 3: It's still people.

748
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 2: Tell me about this jump.

749
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 3: Uh, I'm I do activity. So I hang out with

750
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:16,399
Speaker 3: them and like fucking make them rip your floats and

751
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 3: fucking put Pee Wee's Playhouse on the TV and well,

752
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 3: we have a blast.

753
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 2: That's awesome, that's really cool. Have you okay? So I

754
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 2: I let me ask you this more because if some

755
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 2: of the if some of these people are a little unstable,

756
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 2: have you had a lot of You've told me that

757
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 2: you can talk a dog off a meat wagon. Have

758
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 2: you had to diffuse any old folks home, like, have

759
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 2: you had to break up any fights or anything?

760
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: Yeah?

761
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, hit me, hit me.

762
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 3: So there's this guy. I can't say names, but he thing.

763
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 2: So he's just like, sorry, you cut out. Sorry, man,

764
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 2: you cut you cind of cut you cut out? You

765
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 2: cut out? Do you wanna say that again?

766
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 3: Uh? So there's this one guy and he used to

767
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 3: do accounting or something, but he got real worried about

768
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 3: not seeing his wife because she comes by really often.

769
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 3: And so he had this nurse just like in a

770
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 3: death rip. And I went up to him and I

771
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 3: was just like, man, it's okay, it's okay. She told

772
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,399
Speaker 3: you she was going to see the boys, Like it's

773
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 3: all right, she went to her trip and whatever. I'm

774
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 3: trying to avoid details because I'm not supposed to do that,

775
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 3: but yeah, he was just looking me in the eye,

776
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 3: telling me like no one told me that you didn't

777
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 3: tell me that, and I'm like, dude, I said his

778
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 3: name to him, and I'm like, dude, I know you.

779
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 3: You know me. Have I ever lied to you? Have

780
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 3: I ever steered you wrong?

781
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 2: Man?

782
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 3: You know We're good, I promise you. And he ended

783
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 3: up letting her hand go. I didn't have to like

784
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 3: whip it off, thankfully.

785
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 2: Calling you know. Working in the Memory unit.

786
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 3: Almost a year now, I honestly it's good for the soul,

787
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 3: like the bouncer jobs were, because I always really like

788
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 3: that keeping people safe and stuff. That's always kind of

789
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:22,240
Speaker 3: been a passion. I could actually tell you the story

790
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 3: of when I think I gained that, like where I

791
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 3: really knew I wanted to do something like that, like security.

792
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 3: But the memory unit is rough. It is rough because

793
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 3: like you lose people all the time that and I

794
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 3: do better in like a bar setting. I'd like to

795
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 3: get back into what I was doing, but I just

796
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 3: can't afford to live anywhere that has a scene. I'm

797
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:56,479
Speaker 3: stuck somewhere kind of close by, but the last train

798
00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:00,240
Speaker 3: of the night leaves before i'd be able to get home,

799
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 3: so my old thought is just not doable from here.

800
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 2: What's your name? Again, Tom, Tom, It's interesting that you

801
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 2: say you have a lot of anxiety because you're in

802
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 2: a lot of kind of anxiety, because you seem to

803
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 2: be in all these seemingly anxiety producing situations that you're

804
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:25,240
Speaker 2: you're able to keep calming.

805
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 3: I feel great now, thank you.

806
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, But you're able to keep You're able to keep

807
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 2: calm in all these kind of crazy situations. It's like

808
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 2: that's what you're being paid for.

809
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 3: You know. The little things get me going. But like

810
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:44,720
Speaker 3: when when it's true crisis, when like the building's on fire,

811
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, everyone, let's go.

812
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,760
Speaker 1: M That is what I'm like, mm hmmm.

813
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:56,879
Speaker 2: So what's your ultimate dream is you want to start

814
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 2: making videos?

815
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 1: I I mainly want to do that just so that

816
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 1: I can get enough income to get back to a

817
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: city with a real scene. I want to be a

818
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 1: bouncer again and still be able to afford rent. Is

819
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 1: essentially what I want to.

820
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 3: Be able to do.

821
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: I like just being around and keeping people safe because

822
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 1: I feel like I do a good job. But I'm

823
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 1: just not cut out to be a copy either, So

824
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: like I come up with no nonsense policies. The bars

825
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 1: still used to this day, like for example, if someone

826
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 1: goes in the bathroom with a drink I was always

827
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 1: a fan of, you know, instead of confiscating it in

828
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 1: case they spiked it, look them in the eye and

829
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 1: just be like, look, you can go through the whole

830
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: rigmarole of getting that replaced, or you can just take

831
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 1: a big swig of that in front of me, so

832
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: I know that if there's anything in there, you're getting

833
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 1: some too.

834
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 2: What did what?

835
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: What?

836
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 2: What would typically happen when you would uh?

837
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:04,359
Speaker 5: Oh dude?

838
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,280
Speaker 3: I used that in like a hundred times, and people

839
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 3: were always so much more excited and willing to do

840
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 3: that then have to go through all the bullshit.

841
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:14,399
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

842
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 3: What's the city I brought in the bathroom?

843
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 2: What's a city that you would most want to be

844
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 2: a part of their scene?

845
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 3: I want to get back to Salem. I love it. Mmm.

846
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 2: Where are you now? Can I ask?

847
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 5: Uh?

848
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 3: Currently in Gloucester?

849
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 1: Not as not as good as a fake?

850
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,399
Speaker 2: And uh, do you got friends over there? At least?

851
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,280
Speaker 2: Do you have like homies or family?

852
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 1: I got some pole who I hit up and like

853
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: we do d D and stuff.

854
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 2: Like I got my boyson very good.

855
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 3: Now that.

856
00:46:54,800 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 2: What hello, what the hell? Just happens.

857
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: Yet.

858
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 2: Oh hey, are you there?

859
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: Yeah?

860
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 3: Oh?

861
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 2: Sorry, what was that?

862
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 3: I don't know.

863
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 2: Okay, we're keeping that in. That was like saying that

864
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 2: was psychedelic anyway, what happened never? I don't even I

865
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know, but we're keeping it in, okay,

866
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 2: Tom right, yeah, Tom Hollow, Tom Hollow, you can go. Yeah,

867
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 2: we can go first life if you want to, we

868
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 2: can go first last name. You want to be first

869
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:33,879
Speaker 2: last name.

870
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 3: I'm trying to get famous, right, so I gotta I

871
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 3: gotta plug.

872
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 2: Okay, here, let me look at your ship? What what

873
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 2: is Tom Hollow? What is that on?

874
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 3: Tom Hollow? Seven on TikTok? Right now, I'm trying.

875
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 2: To I'm so excited to I'm so excited to see

876
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 2: what you look like, because you probably I would be

877
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 2: willing to bet that you look very different from Yeah,

878
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 2: how you sound Tom Hollow? Sound?

879
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 3: I hate it? I hate Oh. My wife's cool this.

880
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 3: She thinks it's cute. She thinks I sound like the

881
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 3: guy from the Thieves Guild and Skyrim, the guy that

882
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 3: goes like this.

883
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 2: I don't know, Tom Hollow. How do you spell tom?

884
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 1: Oh?

885
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:23,919
Speaker 2: Is it? Oh? There's two ends in what the fuck?

886
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's.

887
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 2: So grow What the hell? What is that? Tom? Are

888
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 2: you still there?

889
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 1: Oh?

890
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:38,839
Speaker 3: No?

891
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:39,720
Speaker 2: Tom is gone?

892
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 5: Man?

893
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:42,760
Speaker 2: All right, Tom?

894
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: Tom?

895
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 2: All right? That was weird. What the hell was that is?

896
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 2: He like on? Is he's he on? Like a landline?

897
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 2: And his wife just picked up? I didn't I thought

898
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 2: it was like a loan. I don't know he his

899
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 2: wife was there, so maybe that was that's what that is?

900
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:03,359
Speaker 2: Was that a SoundBite? Okay, I'm gonna have to end

901
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 2: the call if he doesn't get back to me and

902
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 2: just a sec. But okay, Tom, Wait is he still there? Hello? Tom?

903
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:22,280
Speaker 2: All right? I think Tom's gone? All right, Tom's gone.

904
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 2: I don't know what this is. This is a psychedelic

905
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:28,839
Speaker 2: we're keeping it all in, it's all staying there. Let

906
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 2: me see if I can't call him back or if

907
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 2: I have it? No, shit, I can't or can I

908
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 2: hold on?

909
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 1: All right?

910
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:41,800
Speaker 2: Tom's gone? That sucks. I liked Tom. I could have

911
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 2: kept talking to Tom for a while. I'm trying to

912
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 2: find his fucking TikTok Wait, okay, maybe hold on. Let

913
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:50,359
Speaker 2: me see if I and get him back, this might

914
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 2: be him. Hello, Okay, you're back? Wait, what's your what's

915
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 2: your what's the what's the name? What's the user name?

916
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 3: Hold on now, let me just put it in the chat.

917
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 2: Okay, Oh, Thomas Hollow, Tom Hollow ninety Oh, oh okay,

918
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 2: oh Tom Hollow in ninety seven.

919
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 3: Hold on, Jack, I'm I'm terrible with phones. I'm working on.

920
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 2: It, all right. I gotta know what you look like

921
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 2: before the end of this thing. Okay, Tom Hollow ninety

922
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 2: seven on TikTok No, Tom, just tell me what the

923
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 2: thing is. It's all right, Well, you can't hear me.

924
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 2: This is a cluster. Here we go, here we are. Oh,

925
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 2: I see you? Uh crazy. I don't think you look

926
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 2: that different from what I imagine from what I imagined you

927
00:50:57,840 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 2: to be.

928
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 3: Really, that's the first time I've ever heard that.

929
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 5: Yo.

930
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:03,320
Speaker 3: I'm on the phone with a deck right now.

931
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 2: I'm on the phone with actually no you Okay, Actually,

932
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 2: maybe you look a little bit different. I mean I

933
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 2: think it's the big hair and the beard.

934
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 3: Yeah.

935
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 2: I think I maybe imagined you as more of like

936
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 2: a little boy.

937
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 1: What.

938
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:20,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know why.

939
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 3: I don't know about that.

940
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 2: Well, Tom, let me ask you. Let me ask you.

941
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 2: This is okay, everyone, everyone go follow fucking Thomas hollow seven,

942
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 2: he's got unlicensed therapy, roped art, hot takes, and D

943
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 2: and D means thanks.

944
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 3: I appreciate that, Thomas.

945
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 2: This was this was a this was a good conversation.

946
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 2: I enjoyed talking to you. I hope that. I hope

947
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 2: you keep doing your ship and you keep telling people

948
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 2: your stories.

949
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 3: On. Hold on, hold on. I would hate for this

950
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 3: whole call to be a plug. I could give you,

951
00:51:57,840 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 3: like a cool story.

952
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 2: Oh well, well, if you want you want to give us,

953
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:03,399
Speaker 2: if you have a few more stories that you want

954
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 2: to give us, you can give it to us.

955
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 3: Dude, I could go on. This is what I'm trying

956
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 3: to do. Okay, Okay, I'm so sorry that that took

957
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:14,399
Speaker 3: up any of this time. That's all right, Okay, uh

958
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 3: you you give me a tone, and I've got a

959
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 3: story for it. I could tell you a funny story.

960
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 3: I could tell you a scary ass story.

961
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,399
Speaker 2: Let's hear how about this before we go, Let's hear

962
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 2: one funny story.

963
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 3: Okay, funny story again.

964
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, you know what, fuck you, Tom? What

965
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 2: story do you want to tell us?

966
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 5: Oh?

967
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 3: Man, okay, I'll tell you about a story from this morning,

968
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 3: though was pretty funny. Okay, go ahead, So lee in

969
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 3: my roommate, who's going to the gym with me every day.

970
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 3: Five am. Where we just finished our workout and we

971
00:52:54,640 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 3: went to go into the locker room and my boy

972
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:04,800
Speaker 3: over here holds the door open, like to let someone

973
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 3: out who like is holding a towel with this poor

974
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 3: old nash holding the fucking towel, and he almost did it.

975
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 3: He almost walked out into the fucking ship. Can you

976
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:21,399
Speaker 3: believe that he held the door like And the old

977
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 3: van was laughing too because he was like, I almost

978
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,800
Speaker 3: did it and just got banned from this gym for

979
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 3: the rest of my life from.

980
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,240
Speaker 2: Oh because he was because he was just walking around naked.

981
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 3: No, he was in a towel and my boy here

982
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 3: held the door open. We were walking into the uh

983
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 3: the locker room, and my buddy held the door open

984
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 3: to like let the dude out even though he was

985
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 3: in a towel. Like my boy wasn't paying attention, like

986
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 3: trying to consider it.

987
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 2: I see, I see, I see.

988
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 3: Like ushering the dude out.

989
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 2: M I kind of want to hear a scary story

990
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 2: and then.

991
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 3: Well, okay, okay, this is the freakiest shit that I

992
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 3: will never be able to explain because it doesn't make

993
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 3: any sense and it haunts me to this day. So

994
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 3: me and my childhood friend Evans used to break into

995
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 3: this fucking old building all the time, and everyone had

996
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 3: a different explanation for what this building used to be.

997
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 3: I've heard totally conflicting things, like someone said they used

998
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:38,240
Speaker 3: to make like certain parts for missiles that were used

999
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 3: in a war or something. I called bullshit because there

1000
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 3: was like posters with little kids can Quinton kink, like

1001
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 3: it had to have been a preschool or something, but

1002
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 3: there was freaky shit in there. There was a desk

1003
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:00,959
Speaker 3: that was chained to the wall. In the middle of

1004
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 3: the building. There was like a big metal room or

1005
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 3: elevator or something with like around green window. It made

1006
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:11,280
Speaker 3: it look like it was like a fucking glowing reactor

1007
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 3: or something. I know, it was just like green window

1008
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 3: with light going through. But it was just an ominous

1009
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 3: ass fucking place and we just set that scene. We

1010
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 3: found this pile of books. They were like premium red leather,

1011
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:35,799
Speaker 3: gold fucking numbers on the side. They were all part

1012
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 3: of like a set. Clearly, now we were like kid kids.

1013
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,320
Speaker 3: They didn't know shit, and we used to like thatch

1014
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 3: Bell because so we needed a book.

1015
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 1: For a prop.

1016
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:51,320
Speaker 3: We took it and I remember looking through that shit

1017
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 3: and on one side it would have names and then

1018
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 3: dusts all the way across the page, and on the

1019
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 3: others of that page it would say alive or deceased.

1020
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 3: I have no fucking idea what those books were, what

1021
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 3: they were records of, because they didn't have anything else

1022
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:16,280
Speaker 3: going on. It was just names and alive were deceased,

1023
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 3: and uh. We ended up wrecking that book and we

1024
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 3: went back to get another one, and the Giant Pilot

1025
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 3: was fucking.

1026
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 2: Gone, very spooky, very Halloween.

1027
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 3: Very spooky, very like I just don't know no one.

1028
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:37,759
Speaker 3: It's gonna harm me forever because I'm never gonna know

1029
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 3: what the fuck that was about.

1030
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 2: Maybe the books died and they're and disintegrated.

1031
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 3: No way, because we went back like a couple of

1032
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 3: days later. The one that we had did disintegrate because

1033
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 3: we left it under the porch like idiots, and it rained.

1034
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:58,880
Speaker 3: That's why we went back to get another one, like

1035
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 3: just a couple of days later, and they were all gone.

1036
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 3: Maybe like a homeless person used them to like start

1037
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 3: a fire, like you were a cold like I've thought

1038
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 3: about this a lot and things that could have happened,

1039
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 3: but it's just weird.

1040
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 2: Well, Tom, thanks for sharing, Thanks for sharing your stories.

1041
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 2: We had the we had the haunted, we had the

1042
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 2: Haunted book. You're not You're You're a cool guy, man.

1043
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 2: I hope that you uh uh continue your journey through life.

1044
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 2: You know, I'm glad that you found a found found

1045
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 2: a found like a good lane to be in being,

1046
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 2: you know, a keeper of the piece. Thank you, brother.

1047
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 2: Is there anything else you want to say to the

1048
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 2: people of the computer before we go?

1049
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 3: No matter what you do, someone is gonna think that

1050
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 3: it's their full time job to make you feel like

1051
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 3: you're not doing ship. But as long as you know

1052
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 3: you're giving in you all, that's all that really matters.

1053
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 2: Hey, thanks for calling.

1054
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 1: Tom.

1055
00:57:55,360 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 2: Appreciate you have a go on guest. Okay, I am

1056
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 2: going to do a thing I've been doing on this

1057
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 2: podcast again, which is that I'm going to end the

1058
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 2: session by reading a few emails. I feel like that's

1059
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 2: a nice way to do it. We have a couple calls,

1060
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 2: we have a couple of emails. I don't know if

1061
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 2: I'm going to do it every podcast. I'm probably still

1062
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 2: going to do email only and call only episodes, but

1063
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 2: I kind of like, I'm kind of enjoying this thing

1064
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 2: of doing email only or doing like a little hybrid ones.

1065
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 2: So I'm just gonna read a couple of emails, not

1066
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 2: nothing crazy. If you want to be in one of

1067
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 2: these emails, you can send me an email at therapy

1068
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 2: geckomail at gmail dot com. It's therapy geckomail at gmail

1069
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 2: dot com. Okay, this is from Ania, Hey gek, longtime listener,

1070
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 2: first time emailer. Every now and then I call in

1071
00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 2: hoping you'll answer, only to be met with the automated record.

1072
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 2: Hopefully one day we'll get a chance to talk. Anyway,

1073
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 2: I wanted to offer a recommendation for people trying to

1074
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 2: get out of the house volunteering. I started volunteering at

1075
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 2: an animal shelter a couple months ago, and it truly

1076
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 2: brings me joy. I work with the dogs, help out

1077
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 2: at the front desk, wash dishes, do laundry, I clean

1078
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 2: and it brings me joy and gets me out of

1079
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 2: the house. I've been working from home part time since

1080
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 2: COVID and I go to school part time. I live

1081
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 2: in North Philly in an apartment building with seven other units.

1082
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 2: You mentioned you went to Temple University. That's yeah, shout

1083
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 2: out to where you are living in my old stopping grounds.

1084
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 2: I enjoy being alone, which is cool because for a

1085
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 2: long time I was alone and lonely. Now I'm just

1086
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 2: by myself, which is a big difference. But I found

1087
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 2: that I was spending too much time alone and wanted

1088
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 2: to socialize, so I started volunteering and it brings me

1089
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 2: a lot of joy. I will also start volunteering at

1090
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 2: a bookstore that has an after school pro where I'll

1091
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 2: be helping out with the kids in my neighborhood. I'm

1092
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 2: nervous but excited for that as well. I haven't made

1093
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 2: any friends yet, but I've had great interactions and conversations

1094
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 2: with the people I volunteer with, and that has been

1095
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 2: fulfilling to me at this moment. So if anyone is interested,

1096
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 2: look into volunteering opportunities that pique your interest. Also, if

1097
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 2: you want to, also, can you share my emails so

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01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 2: people can reach out to me. Sure this is spiritual

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01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 2: black Girl. Okay, hold on, it's you gotta get a

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01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 2: new spiritual black Girl at yahoo dot com. But black

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01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 2: is spelled BLK and girl is no. Oh, there's no

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01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 2: I in girl, so it's just g r L. Let's

1103
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 2: send an email to spiritual black Girl. Don't send her

1104
01:00:56,520 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 2: anything weird, just say hi, Hello, be cool. Okay. This

1105
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 2: is from Let's See Okay, actually I don't have any more. Okay,

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01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 2: let's try Let's try this one. This is from Ripley,

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01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 2: subject line third shift, dear Lyle. I work nights at

1108
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 2: a dog daycare and boarding facility, so I am alone

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01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 2: a lot. There are people here for an hour at

1110
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 2: the start of my shift, and then after they leave,

1111
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 2: I have the building to myself for the rest of

1112
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:41,760
Speaker 2: the night. This job is great because there is usually

1113
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 2: about two or three hours of actual work followed by

1114
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 2: whatever the hell I want. Most nights, after I'm done

1115
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 2: with work, I smoke a joint and watch movies or YouTube.

1116
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:54,960
Speaker 2: And it feels amazing because I'm getting paid more than

1117
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 2: any other job I've had, and i have more freedom

1118
01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:00,440
Speaker 2: than I ever thought possible. But after six months of

1119
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:02,360
Speaker 2: doing this job, I'm starting to feel like I've run

1120
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:04,480
Speaker 2: out of things to do at night, and I'm getting lonely.

1121
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:08,560
Speaker 2: I've never been an extrovert. I'm extremely shy, anxious, and

1122
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 2: bad at communicating, so I thought this job would be

1123
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 2: perfect for me. I basically isolated myself from all social interaction.

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01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 2: At first, I liked it and I was really starting

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01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 2: to learn more about myself. But now I'm craving friendship.

1126
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 2: I've tried putting myself out there by making friends with

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01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 2: some of the people that work during the daytime, but

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01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 2: they don't text me as much anymore and don't invite

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01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 2: me when they do things together, so I convinced myself

1130
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 2: that I'm annoying them. Now I found a discord server

1131
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 2: full of voice chats with random people to practice having conversations,

1132
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 2: but I'm starting to learn that they aren't filled with

1133
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:43,959
Speaker 2: the best kinds of people. I'm pretty sure this job

1134
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 2: is a safety net that turned into a hammock, and

1135
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 2: I'm not sure what to do. That was a saying

1136
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:50,800
Speaker 2: I got from your show that really stuck with me.

1137
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 2: I was wondering where I heard that before. I guess, yeah,

1138
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:56,960
Speaker 2: somebody said it. Listening to your show, while always helps

1139
01:02:57,000 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 2: me get out of my own thoughts. The way you

1140
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 2: talk to everyone is hold on, boy, I think about

1141
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:08,480
Speaker 2: this piece of advice. Thank you for your show, Thank

1142
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:10,560
Speaker 2: you Ripley. Sorry I don't like to. I feel weird

1143
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 2: reading emails of people glazing me. I don't know if

1144
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 2: that makes me a dick, but I feel but I

1145
01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 2: appreciate you. Appreciate you, Ripley. Thank you. Also, I love

1146
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 2: when you take your shirt off. He didn't phrase it

1147
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 2: like that. He said, I love the shirtless Gack episodes. Anyway, Ripley, Well,

1148
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 2: I don't. I mean, I could say the same thing you.

1149
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:37,040
Speaker 2: I mean, I've I've been talking about this over and

1150
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 2: over again. But yeah, I don't know. I mean, I

1151
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 2: think the discord chat is a good one. You could

1152
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 2: find more discords. Hmm, what else could you do? I

1153
01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 2: don't know. I don't, I'm I'm I don't. I I

1154
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 2: uh hmm. Sorry, I'm having a brain fart right now.

1155
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 2: But yeah, I I hope Ripley finds something to do.

1156
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I can't. I'm not. I can't give advice

1157
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 2: in this very moment. I don't, I don't, I but

1158
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 2: I hope Ripley finds something good to do with his life.

1159
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 2: This was is it? Is it bad to have an

1160
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:28,040
Speaker 2: advice podcast and then just not give advice? I don't

1161
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:33,320
Speaker 2: know if I wouldn't consider this an advice podcast. What

1162
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:37,360
Speaker 2: else can I say about things? I don't know if

1163
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 2: I have anything else to say. I'm gonna rant for

1164
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 2: a bit. I'm just gonna rant. Someone in the chat

1165
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:51,440
Speaker 2: said finding friends in adulthood is hard. It is, but

1166
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 2: I believe that, you know, if you put yourself out there,

1167
01:04:56,400 --> 01:05:05,080
Speaker 2: you'll find things to do. You know, someone asked people

1168
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 2: still use Yahoo? They do. I don't know why, man,

1169
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 2: smoking weed and watching YouTube is fun. I get why

1170
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 2: you're in I get why you're having a good time

1171
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:21,920
Speaker 2: smoking weed and watching YouTube. I'm not gonna say that

1172
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 2: I think you're crazy for smoking weed and watching YouTube.

1173
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 2: I really, uh, I really do get you. Okay, let's

1174
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:40,920
Speaker 2: do one more. This is from Cameron, subject line I

1175
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:44,280
Speaker 2: want to cross dress, but I'm afraid. Hey, Gek, you

1176
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:47,000
Speaker 2: can call me Cameron. I am a twenty one year

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01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 2: old male and I want to start cross dressing, but

1178
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 2: I am afraid. I've always loved the more feminine side

1179
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:54,440
Speaker 2: of life, and I want to start dressing and acting

1180
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 2: more feminine. But I feel afraid all of my coworkers

1181
01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:00,600
Speaker 2: and family are either super religious or homophobic. I have

1182
01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 2: told my friends about this, and they understand and are

1183
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:05,240
Speaker 2: perfectly fine with how I act and dress, which is

1184
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 2: a big help. I live a few blocks down for

1185
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:09,960
Speaker 2: my parents, so I dress up at home sometimes, but

1186
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:12,360
Speaker 2: I want to dress up in public as well. I

1187
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 2: guess I'm just afraid of what everyone's expectations of me

1188
01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 2: are and how people feel about me. I would also

1189
01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 2: like to have a boyfriend, but my family has said

1190
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:21,240
Speaker 2: they would disown me if I ever dated a man.

1191
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm trapped from I'm trapped of be

1192
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 2: away from being my true self. Thanks for listening to me, Rant.

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01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 2: I hope you have an amazing day and thanks for

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01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:32,840
Speaker 2: all you do. Sincerely, Cameron, thank you for sending this email. Cameron,

1195
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 2: beautiful time time for a straight white man to give

1196
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 2: advice on a podcast about being yourself, and I will

1197
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:57,919
Speaker 2: do that gladly, Cameron. Cameron, Cameron well Man, well Ka, honestly, Camera,

1198
01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:00,960
Speaker 2: if you're listening to me right now, I'm gonna assume

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01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 2: you you you're you're twenty one. I'm assuming you're still

1200
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 2: living in the town that you grew up in, and

1201
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 2: I understand it's a difficult economy, but when I read

1202
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:09,560
Speaker 2: this email, I'm like, fuck, man, this guy's got to

1203
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 2: go find a place to be, you know, because I think, wait,

1204
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:20,800
Speaker 2: hold on, well, I'm I'm you live, you don't live

1205
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:23,520
Speaker 2: with your parents. You live down the block from your parents.

1206
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 2: I'm but I feel for you. I feel for you, man,

1207
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:33,720
Speaker 2: I'm really sorry. It's it's a it's a fucking damn

1208
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:36,200
Speaker 2: shame that your parents said that to you. I really

1209
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 2: I'm sorry to hear that they said that to you.

1210
01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 2: That's a fucking damn shame. But you can't let your

1211
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:45,680
Speaker 2: parents uh stop you from living your life. You know

1212
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:48,400
Speaker 2: what I mean. You don't. You don't need I assume

1213
01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 2: that you're not financially reliant upon them because you don't

1214
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 2: live in the same place as they do. And look,

1215
01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 2: the way I see it, brother, is is if your

1216
01:07:56,840 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 2: rent is paid, do whatever you want. You know, I

1217
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 2: I think, I think, Cameron, listen to me. If you

1218
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:07,480
Speaker 2: want to have a boyfriend, if you want to date guys,

1219
01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 2: please please please please please do not let you know,

1220
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:14,160
Speaker 2: I mean, you're an adult man, like, don't let your

1221
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:17,760
Speaker 2: family stop you from doing that shit. Don't let your

1222
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:19,519
Speaker 2: family stop you from like living your life. You know.

1223
01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 2: It's it was nice of them to birth you into existence,

1224
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:27,759
Speaker 2: but beyond that, you can't you can't let them dictate

1225
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:33,479
Speaker 2: your shit. You know, it sounds like you live in

1226
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:36,759
Speaker 2: a b It sounds like you live in a bad place,

1227
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:41,160
Speaker 2: or not a bad bad place is a strong thing. Sorry,

1228
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 2: my brain is running out of energy. But you gotta

1229
01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 2: get out. You gotta go see the world somehow, because

1230
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:50,880
Speaker 2: it seems like it sounds like you're in like a

1231
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:56,200
Speaker 2: like a red state small town where everyone is like

1232
01:08:56,280 --> 01:09:03,120
Speaker 2: super religious and homophobic, and it's like, Bro, Cameron, come

1233
01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:09,360
Speaker 2: to Bushwick, Brooklyn, brother, come to Bushwick, Brooklyn, go to

1234
01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:12,559
Speaker 2: fucking Portland, go to like like, oh my god, Like

1235
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:15,040
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, you're twenty one. I get it.

1236
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:17,840
Speaker 2: You got good friends, you got family. Economy is hard,

1237
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 2: but like, fucking get your ass out there in the world,

1238
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 2: my friend, because he's the thing. He seems like if

1239
01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:26,720
Speaker 2: you grew up in a place where like everyone's like

1240
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:29,880
Speaker 2: religious and homophobic and crazy. I don't know much about you, Cameron.

1241
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:31,439
Speaker 2: I don't know where you've traveled or where you've been

1242
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:34,000
Speaker 2: or anything like that, but like you're gonna, dude, like

1243
01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:36,760
Speaker 2: if you go to Bushwick, your head's gonna fucking explode.

1244
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:39,200
Speaker 2: You're gonna be like, holy shit, I didn't realize that

1245
01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 2: there was a all these sanctuaries all over the world

1246
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:45,880
Speaker 2: of people just doing whatever the fuck they want, you know,

1247
01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:50,800
Speaker 2: and it hurts it hurts my heart to hear that you, uh,

1248
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:55,000
Speaker 2: your family said that they would disown you. That's that's

1249
01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:58,720
Speaker 2: that that really fucking success. I feel for you on that,

1250
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:01,400
Speaker 2: But you can't let that dictate what you're gonna do

1251
01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:08,080
Speaker 2: with your life. Try you, I don't know, try your

1252
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:09,479
Speaker 2: best to figure out how you can get the fuck

1253
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:11,640
Speaker 2: out somewhere else. If you've been living, if you've been

1254
01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:16,280
Speaker 2: living in the religious, homophobic, like small ass town for

1255
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:19,519
Speaker 2: all twenty one years of your life, like, listen, you do,

1256
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:23,479
Speaker 2: you man, but like you should try to you should

1257
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:27,080
Speaker 2: try to give a little shot at seeing what life

1258
01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:29,080
Speaker 2: might be like, seeing if you if you can find

1259
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:33,840
Speaker 2: a job in some other you know, even just like

1260
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:35,360
Speaker 2: I don't know what state you live in, but I'm

1261
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:40,360
Speaker 2: sure there's a large city in whatever state you're in

1262
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:44,720
Speaker 2: where you'll find other people and you'll find interesting uh

1263
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:48,639
Speaker 2: communities and scenarios where like where you're like, oh shit,

1264
01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:52,439
Speaker 2: these people think I'm weird for not being dressed up

1265
01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:56,040
Speaker 2: as a lady. You know, So I'll help you I'll

1266
01:10:56,040 --> 01:11:00,600
Speaker 2: help you, uh find, find find or create some opportunity

1267
01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 2: for yourself to expand beyond those horizons and like live

1268
01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:07,639
Speaker 2: your fucking live your life, dude. That's the That's the

1269
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:09,599
Speaker 2: main takeaway I'm getting from the email is like you're

1270
01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:13,240
Speaker 2: scared to live your life because you were just It's

1271
01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 2: like you're scared to live your life because your parents

1272
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 2: are assholes and they didn't encourage you to live your life.

1273
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 2: But I think you should live your life. Man. I

1274
01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:25,640
Speaker 2: don't know if that was I don't know if that

1275
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:31,200
Speaker 2: motivational speech was anything, but but we did it. We

1276
01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:34,120
Speaker 2: did a motivational speech, and we did a podcast, and

1277
01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:39,800
Speaker 2: we talked to people. We talked to Thomas, and we

1278
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:44,200
Speaker 2: talked to Hank the fart Man, and we had a

1279
01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:49,680
Speaker 2: good time. I think we had a good time. This

1280
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:53,320
Speaker 2: was good. I had a good time. I'm gonna go

1281
01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:57,320
Speaker 2: send an email and do a push up and drink

1282
01:11:57,360 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 2: a cup of water. Bless you all, Thank you for listening.

1283
01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:10,400
Speaker 2: See you again on Sunday. Bobbye. Hello, folks, it's Lyle here.

1284
01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:14,120
Speaker 2: That's the end of this episode. But get this, I'm

1285
01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:18,960
Speaker 2: releasing a bonus episode this week. That's right, An entire

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01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:22,960
Speaker 2: extra hour of the podcast that you can listen to

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Speaker 2: by becoming a premium member of Therapy Gecko over at

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Speaker 2: therapy Gecko dot supercast dot com. Supercast subscribers get access

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Speaker 2: to bonus episodes, They get a completely ad free podcast

1290
01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:39,000
Speaker 2: feed of the regular show, they get recordings from my

1291
01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:42,680
Speaker 2: live shows, members only streams, and they help support my

1292
01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:46,360
Speaker 2: ability to continue doing this podcast. So here's a clip

1293
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:49,840
Speaker 2: from this week's members only bonus episode.

1294
01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:52,000
Speaker 5: Well, I can't stop masturbating.

1295
01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:54,760
Speaker 2: You can't stop masturbating, Nope.

1296
01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:58,559
Speaker 5: I mean, for example, one day, this girl came into

1297
01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:01,679
Speaker 5: work and she was just straight up like butt naked,

1298
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:05,040
Speaker 5: and I was like, well, it's just like God toying

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Speaker 5: with me. At this point, I was the only cash

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Speaker 5: here and I had to make everyone wait so I

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Speaker 5: could go in the bathroom and jerk off.

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Speaker 2: Isn't that stressful though? Like having to come while you

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Speaker 2: know that there's a bunch of people waiting for you

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Speaker 2: that cause that's like double It's like when you take

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Speaker 2: a shit in a single stall bathroom and you know

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Speaker 2: that there's a line outside of it or did that

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Speaker 2: like stress not even occur to you because you just

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Speaker 2: were so checked out.

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Speaker 5: The stress of needing to jerk off is much greater

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Speaker 5: than the stress of the social political environment of my job.

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Speaker 2: dot supercast dot com, or find the link in the

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Speaker 2: episode description that's therapy Gecko dot supercast dot com. All right,

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Speaker 2: I have nothing else to say.

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Speaker 5: Those on the line.

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Speaker 2: Taking your phone calls every night.

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Speaker 5: Never big Get goes to his hide.

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Speaker 4: He's teaching you to a housing over your life, but

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Speaker 4: he's

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Speaker 2: Not really an expert.