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Speaker 1: This is the Huddle every Thursday from noon to two,

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Speaker 1: presented by hung.

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Speaker 2: The Services and Pacific Landing Supply.

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Speaker 3: It is the Huddle with Dave Wyman, Michael Bumpus, and

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Speaker 3: Stacy Ross. We have to recap and look back at

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Speaker 3: an unfortunate loss for the Seahawks, but talk about a

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Speaker 3: little bit of what we learned and then look forward

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Speaker 3: to a regular season finale and must win situation for

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Speaker 3: the Seahawks.

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Speaker 4: Before we start talking about the Cardinals, let's jump back

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Speaker 4: to the Steelers. Guys.

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Speaker 3: What was so frustrating about the final three games is

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Speaker 3: they all look winnable on paper. Now, they did beat

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Speaker 3: the Titans, and that's great news. They did not beat

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Speaker 3: the Steelers. Dave, I'm going to start with you. It's

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Speaker 3: hard not to immediately look at the defense. Is the

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Speaker 3: reason why in this one.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that was frustrating to watch, you know, and I thought,

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Speaker 5: I thought, you know, Gino looked really good. You know,

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Speaker 5: some of the plays that he made, some of the

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Speaker 5: off It's kind of funny watching the game with the Huskies.

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Speaker 5: You see, Penix did kind of the same thing Gino did,

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Speaker 5: you know, like as far as off schedule and his

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Speaker 5: feet weren't flat the one cross I did a football

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Speaker 5: one on one on the crosser that he threw to

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Speaker 5: Noah Fan where he just avoids the rush, steps up,

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Speaker 5: he's kind of flat footed and just you know, finds

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Speaker 5: a guy in between four different defenders. So but yeah,

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Speaker 5: I mean the defense that was I've never been that frustrated.

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Speaker 5: I don't think calling a game. And afterwards, I was like, was.

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Speaker 6: I too harsh? Was I being too negative?

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Speaker 5: So but yeah, I mean I've been instructed to just

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Speaker 5: call it like I see it, So that was very frustrating,

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Speaker 5: just because I thought, you know, miss tackles, that's gonna happen.

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Speaker 5: I remember asking one of my coaches one time. I'm like,

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Speaker 5: is it possible to go through a season? This is

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Speaker 5: my first year, second year, so I was like, very naive,

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Speaker 5: is it possible to go through a season without a mistackle?

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Speaker 5: And He's like, no way, there's no way that's gonna happen,

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Speaker 5: because those guys are paid to make you miss, right,

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Speaker 5: And I don't want to take anything away from those

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Speaker 5: two running backs, Warren and Harris. They were really good,

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Speaker 5: you know, they just they just bullied us. But I

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Speaker 5: felt like as the game went on. Of course, in

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Speaker 5: the second half they kind of fixed it. But I

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Speaker 5: thought that they would load up to stop the run

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Speaker 5: and not worry too much about the big plays. And

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Speaker 5: it didn't go that way in the first half for sure,

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Speaker 5: But I felt like there was kind of this gradualism

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Speaker 5: of like guys were going slower and just assuming that

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Speaker 5: another guy was going to make a tackle. And yeah,

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Speaker 5: there was lots of really bad looks. I know on

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Speaker 5: Twitter a couple of the touchdowns there were guys standing

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Speaker 5: around and you know, just a standard It's almost like

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Speaker 5: you need to have a cold bucket of water pour

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Speaker 5: it over your head, like you guys, you're not playing fast,

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Speaker 5: You're just not. And so it just it just kind

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Speaker 5: of snowballed and got worse and worse and worse.

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Speaker 3: Whyman talked about feeling frustrated watching this one bump, is

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Speaker 3: that how you felt.

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Speaker 4: How are you feeling watching this.

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Speaker 7: Frustrated as well? And you watched the game and you

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Speaker 7: felt like guys were in position to make plays and

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Speaker 7: just couldn't finish the deal. You got a running back

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Speaker 7: wrapped up in the back field, he shakes loose, two

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Speaker 7: or three guys hit him three yards down the field,

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Speaker 7: he shakes loose for another ten or fifteen yards. It

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Speaker 7: just felt like, and I've used this analogy before, Man,

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Speaker 7: it's like when you're in a dream and you just

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Speaker 7: can't run fast or you.

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Speaker 8: Can't hit anything like that.

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Speaker 4: It's like.

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Speaker 6: What it was.

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Speaker 8: That's what the defense. That's what it felt like.

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Speaker 7: Watching the defense is like, just make the play, and

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Speaker 7: they weren't able to do it. But like Day pointed out,

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Speaker 7: I think Gino was good in the pocket. I think

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Speaker 7: that DK Medcalf is finishing the season on a high note.

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Speaker 7: He's playing some good football, and offensively, it's just when

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Speaker 7: you can't get that run game going, it's just so tough, man,

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Speaker 7: Because this offense isn't an offense that's gonna toss for

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Speaker 7: four hundred yards and three or four touchdowns. They need

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Speaker 7: the run game to compliment everything that they're doing. So

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Speaker 7: when you can't get that going, you're limited. Yet you

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Speaker 7: still put up about the amount of points that you

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Speaker 7: put up every other game. So yeah, it was a

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Speaker 7: frustrating watching the defense and then disappointing.

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Speaker 8: Why I've seen that off as not being able to

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Speaker 7: But you lose your tackle, you lose your ciner, you

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Speaker 7: lose your running back, he's banged up. It was a

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Speaker 7: perfect recipe for a disaster.

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Speaker 8: In that run game.

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Speaker 4: Well, i'man Pete.

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Speaker 3: Carroll was asked about a lot of those mistackles at

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Speaker 3: the press conference he had yesterday with reporters, and he said, look,

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Speaker 3: part of that's just youth.

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Speaker 4: We're a young team.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna have He pointed to like Devin Witherspoon, like

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Speaker 3: over pursuing and then just kind of missing on it.

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Speaker 3: Is that what you see as the problem when it

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Speaker 3: a little more than that.

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Speaker 5: No, I think it's I think the biggest problem wasn't

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Speaker 6: It was how we were just not playing fast. You know.

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Speaker 6: That's the thing.

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Speaker 5: Witherspoon, he had the first mistackle of the game, But

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Speaker 5: that dude plays fast all the time, you know, And

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Speaker 5: I think there's that. I think also that you just

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Speaker 5: can't really tackle anybody anymore, and you know, it's it's

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Speaker 6: So I can see where guys.

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Speaker 5: You know, I've been saying this for the last few

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Speaker 5: weeks that if if I'm a quarterback coach or an

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Speaker 5: offensive coordinator. I'm telling the quarterback run because you know,

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Speaker 5: like in the watching Tannehill scramble, a couple of times

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Speaker 5: you could see, like Kobe Bryant and Caandre Diggs, they

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Speaker 5: them in a small target and you know, you know

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Speaker 5: you're gonna get a penalty, you know. So I think

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Speaker 5: that there's a little bit of that. And then this

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Speaker 5: time of year you don't really work on they're not

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Speaker 5: even in pats. The NFLPA has, you know, a deal

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Speaker 5: with the NFL that they're not in pads after I

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Speaker 5: don't know if it's like week ten or twelve or

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Speaker 5: And it's just a matter of will and being conscientious

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Speaker 5: the most were the jogging, you know, watching guys and look,

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Speaker 5: I've seen highlights.

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Speaker 6: When I played. I know what happened.

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Speaker 5: I know that there's every once in a while you

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Speaker 5: just you're thinking or you're watching the game. And that's

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Speaker 5: what Chuck used to say, Look at this guy, he's

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Speaker 5: watching the game, and some times you find yourself doing that.

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Speaker 5: But it was like everybody was doing it, so it

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Speaker 5: just became like a lower standard and hopefully they come

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Speaker 5: out fired up. And you know, I don't Kyler Murray

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Speaker 5: is incredibly dangerous. You know, it's funny and I know

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Speaker 5: I'm jumping ahead, but you know, he's he's part of,

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Speaker 5: you know, the problem of tackling in the open field.

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Speaker 5: And every time you play Kyler Murray, at least for

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Speaker 5: the last few years. I mean, like, look at his

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Speaker 5: record and it's kind of dysfunctional and he's not a

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Speaker 5: great leader, but the notion of facing that guy is ridiculous.

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Speaker 6: He's so fast.

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Speaker 5: I think he has the best feet in the NFL.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, that's gonna be that's gonna be a you know, a.

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Speaker 6: Big test for them.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't mind jumping ahead a little bit

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Speaker 3: because it's still relevant to this game, right. I Mean,

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Speaker 3: let's take what Wyman said about Kyler Murray about some

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Speaker 3: of the challenges that's going to be faced by this

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Speaker 4: What are they going to need to correct Where you

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Speaker 4: looked at it in.

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Speaker 3: The Steelers game and thought that can't happen against Arizona, Well,

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Speaker 3: it was part.

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Speaker 7: Of my my four down yesterday, I'm gonna ask Dave. Dave,

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Speaker 7: who do you think is the best team at breaking

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Speaker 7: tackles when running the football like on.

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Speaker 5: A rush, the best team that we've seen or no,

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Speaker 5: just in the league? Okay, well, I mean after watching

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Speaker 7: And you're exactly right. They break the most tackles while

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Speaker 7: rushing the football. Fifty four tackles they broke, and I'd

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Speaker 7: say ten were last week. So now you shift over

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Speaker 7: to the Arizona Cardinals. They're fourth in the league when

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Speaker 7: it comes to breaking tackles on rushes, so you're gonna

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Speaker 7: see some of the same things. You look at James Connor,

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Speaker 7: the way that he's been running the football. You mentioned

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Speaker 7: Kyler Murray. If you don't wrap these guys up, then

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Speaker 7: you're gonna be susceptible to big players. Are also the

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Speaker 7: I think you have to just be fundamentally sound when

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Speaker 7: it comes to what the defense is supposed to do.

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Speaker 7: Tackle the ball carrier and get him to the ground.

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Speaker 7: So that's what I want to see. There was a

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Speaker 7: game I forgot what game it was, Man and Reek

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Speaker 7: wooland the very first series goes out and it was

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Speaker 7: after a game where we criticize their tackling. He goes

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Speaker 7: they obviously made this an emphasis during their prep this week.

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Speaker 7: Whatever you did then, I can't remember what game it was,

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Speaker 7: it was at least three or four games ago. You

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Speaker 7: get back to that man and they're not in pads?

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Speaker 7: So what do you do if you're not in pads?

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Speaker 7: But how do you how do you practice tackling if

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Speaker 7: you're not padded up?

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Speaker 5: It's position, it's a discipline. It's like, you know, moving

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Speaker 5: Pete was saying that there was lots of lunging, So

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Speaker 5: with that happened.

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Speaker 5: It's running up there and thinking you can just shoulder

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Speaker 5: And then the other thing is stopping your feet and lunging,

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Speaker 6: And I saw a lot.

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Speaker 5: Of that, but I think I think you can by

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Speaker 5: getting your hips lower and making your feet work, you know,

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Speaker 5: and just the second you get to contact your your

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Speaker 5: you know, and but man, to me, the I was

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Speaker 5: talking about this yesterday, Bump that when I coached high

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Speaker 5: school football, I would always tell the kids, like, if

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Speaker 5: guy catches the ball, it's an emergency. You have to

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Speaker 5: get there as fast as you possibly can, act like

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Speaker 5: it's a life and death situation, because a lot of

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Speaker 5: guys will just kind of jug up there and you know,

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Speaker 5: urgency has to be pitch. But I do think you

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Speaker 4: What did you see from from Gino in the offense?

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Speaker 3: I only saved you about a minute here, but but bumps, right,

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Speaker 3: It is the Huddle with Dave Wyman, Michael Bumps, and

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Speaker 3: Stacy Ross. Tyler Lockett is on his way over right

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Speaker 3: now from Seahawks practice, which just wrapped, so he's going

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Speaker 3: But the Arizona Cardinals defense seems to post some opportunities

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, if you look at the numbers for both teams defensively,

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Speaker 7: they're not very good on paper. I think these teams

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Speaker 7: But at this point of the season, with the performances

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Speaker 7: It's there's opportunity out there, but you still got to

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Speaker 6: Yeah, they have one sack in the last five games.

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Speaker 5: No, Arizona does thirty three, So there's only thirty three total.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's opportunity, and we have an opportunity now to

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Speaker 3: It is a regular season finale, Tyler, you guys are

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Speaker 11: I think the biggest message is just making sure that

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Speaker 11: We got to depend on another team to be able

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Speaker 12: We don't take care of business.

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Speaker 11: That's that's mainly what everybody's preaching in there.

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Speaker 7: Oh man, I just want to ask about life, man,

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Speaker 12: Going No, I mean it's going great, man.

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Speaker 11: You know, Blessed to be in year nine blessed to be,

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Speaker 9: Still, this was the.

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Speaker 6: Nobody's ever going to forget you, Tyler, No way.

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Speaker 5: But you know you're you're right. Like Steve Rabel who

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Speaker 11: The way that you see him move around the pocket,

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Speaker 3: You guys have a really interesting conundrum with the offense

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Speaker 4: And then sometimes it just feels like it doesn't get going.

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Speaker 11: we go a second time and it's three and out,

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Speaker 11: we only got two third downs to look at it.

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Speaker 11: So you're still kind of playing this guessing game. Are

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Speaker 11: they gonna like call a rolodex or coverages or are

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Speaker 11: they just gonna be able to call the same coverage

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Speaker 11: every third down. So once you kind of get the

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Speaker 11: drives going and you're able to convert one third down,

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Speaker 11: a second third down, all just in one play drive,

446
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Speaker 11: now you're able to go back and say, okay, we

447
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Speaker 11: have four different third downs we can look at. Now

448
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Speaker 11: we see what they're doing. This is how we're going

449
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Speaker 11: to start attacking them. So staying on the field for

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Speaker 11: a numerous amount of time, whether there's five minutes, six minutes,

451
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Speaker 11: seven minutes, it really gives you an advantage of seeing

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Speaker 11: exactly what the defenses look like on first and second

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Speaker 11: as well as third, and then we can exploit it.

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Speaker 6: You mentioned year nine.

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Speaker 7: For you, is there anything that you learn about yourself

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Speaker 7: or is there anything that you know A defense is

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Speaker 7: thrown at you that that's different this year because I

458
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Speaker 7: would assume and you've seen a lot of defenses, a

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Speaker 7: lot of coverages. I mean, you know who you are

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Speaker 7: as a player or anything you learn this.

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Speaker 11: Year, I mean, I think one of the biggest things

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Speaker 11: that you learn is as you keep playing the game,

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Speaker 11: you just don't allow the circumstances to dictate the work

464
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Speaker 11: ethic that.

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Speaker 12: You you put in.

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Speaker 11: And uh, you know, the thing I like about football

467
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Speaker 11: is that it's such a business as well as a

468
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Speaker 11: fun sport that we play that you got to learn

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Speaker 11: how to still be able to focus on your assignment

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Speaker 11: and to be able to put your best foot forward

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Speaker 11: because this is your job at the end of the day.

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Speaker 11: And so you got to learn how not to deal

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Speaker 11: with or you got to learn how to overcome those

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Speaker 11: anxious thoughts or that.

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Speaker 12: Wondering mind that may linger and come along.

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Speaker 11: And so when you just look at the things that

477
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Speaker 11: happen in life and anybody that wants to accomplish whatever

478
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Speaker 11: it is that they want to do, you can't let

479
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Speaker 11: the circumstances dictate your mood. You can't let it dictate

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Speaker 11: the work that you put into it. You can't let

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Speaker 11: it dictate your confidence. You still have to be able

482
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Speaker 11: to figure out how you can be your best self,

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Speaker 11: no matter what the case is.

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Speaker 5: Tyler, I like to use the word rolodex because a

485
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Speaker 5: lot of the kids.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I saw someone the other day question whether phone

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Speaker 3: booths ever existed.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I was Chuck.

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Speaker 5: You remember Chuck Knox used to say he's phone booth tough.

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Speaker 5: And people you say, now, they're like, what the hell

491
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Speaker 5: I was looking at? Like on your knee, you got

492
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Speaker 5: that scrape there. That's one of the things I really

493
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Speaker 5: do not miss is that having to get like a

494
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Speaker 5: toenail drill to get the blood out of it and

495
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Speaker 5: things like that. I mean, it's not going to keep

496
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Speaker 5: you out the field, but those kinds of things just

497
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Speaker 5: kind of gagging. Especially yeah, Constant, you still get the

498
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Speaker 5: turf burns on this stuff.

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Speaker 6: That's what that is.

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Speaker 3: Well, you guys, most of you cannot see it except

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Speaker 3: for the three of us.

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Speaker 4: It's a pretty gross.

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Speaker 5: It's annoying, right, Like, it's just one of those things

504
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Speaker 5: you're like, oh, man, I don't have to deal with this.

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Speaker 12: Ally it's been opening up every game.

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Speaker 3: Well, eventually you'll get some time to relax. But let's

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Speaker 3: hope it's later than it seems right now, right, all right,

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Speaker 3: he is Tyler Lockett kind of enough to join us

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Speaker 3: after practice.

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Speaker 4: Thanks so much, Tyler. All right, you guys, we're going

511
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Speaker 4: to talk to Colby Parkins the next don't go anywhere.

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Speaker 4: This is the huddle.

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Speaker 10: This is the huddle presented by Services and Pacific Lamping

514
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Speaker 10: Supply every Thursday from noon to two on Seattle Sports.

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Speaker 13: Parkinson on the left. Gino looks that way, throws back shoulder.

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Speaker 14: Parkinson hands to catch touchdown Seahawks. The Seahawks line up

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Speaker 14: all three in their star wide out to the right.

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Speaker 13: They throw backside to Parkinson. A perfect fac shoulder throw

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Speaker 13: by Gino, and the Seahawks go up nineteen to seventeen

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Speaker 13: with fifty seven seconds left awaiting the pah won a

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Speaker 13: great call and a great throw by Gino.

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Speaker 3: A great catch by Colby Parkinson joining us now on

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Speaker 3: the huddle with Dave Woman, Michael Bump.

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Speaker 4: It's in me, Stacy Ross, Colby.

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Speaker 3: When you hear highlights of yourself like that, like to

526
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Speaker 3: intro you do you do you feel like, yeah, that's right?

527
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Speaker 4: Or do you get like bashful?

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Speaker 15: I definitely get a little excited, kind of puts me

529
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Speaker 15: back in that moment, you know, game waiting to go

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Speaker 15: up three.

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Speaker 9: Pretty exciting.

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Speaker 7: I love that when you lined up Now we were

533
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Speaker 7: asking you off airboil your first fight, and You're like, well,

534
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Speaker 7: nobody would mess with me.

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Speaker 8: I'm too big. So yeah, so when you got the.

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Speaker 7: IO on that on that play to win the game,

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Speaker 7: is that what you're thinking, I'm too big, Just toss

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Speaker 7: this thing up.

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Speaker 15: All That's what I've been trying to do. Yeah, you

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Speaker 15: know at Stanford I did that. A bunch had a

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Speaker 15: lot of opportunities to you know, catch those jump balls,

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Speaker 15: and we've been working on it all seasons. You know,

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Speaker 15: has been trusting it in practice and just waiting for

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Speaker 15: an opportunity.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. So, how how much did you like?

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Speaker 5: I think we talked to you last week when you

547
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Speaker 5: said you pretty much knew that that was gonna come

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Speaker 5: at some point? Right, had you guys work have been

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Speaker 5: working on that particularly hard that week though?

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Speaker 6: Did you see more of a tendency with Tennessee?

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Speaker 9: Not necessarily. We've been working it every week.

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Speaker 15: It's been in the game plan, just haven't had the

553
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Speaker 15: right you know, stars aligned to be able to call it,

554
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Speaker 15: and we finally did it. I knew I had to

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Speaker 15: catch it if I wanted to get it called again.

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Speaker 6: Now I know you were like a baseball fan, did you?

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Speaker 8: I can't remember.

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Speaker 6: Did you play basketball? I did? Yeah? Yeah, so you're

559
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Speaker 6: basically just posting that guy.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, just post up and go up and get it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: What was your basketball? Are you like a college basketball fan?

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Speaker 3: NBA fan at all?

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Speaker 9: I was a Clippers fan growing up.

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Speaker 15: So the Lop City with Blake Griffin Andrew Jordan's did

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Speaker 15: you want.

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Speaker 4: To share your star five for the Lakers, which is

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Speaker 4: starting Yeah?

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Speaker 8: People were mad at my starting five.

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Speaker 16: Man.

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Speaker 7: I threw like Nick van excellent at the point. You're

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Speaker 7: a little young. I don't know if you remember or

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Speaker 7: not Nick van Axel. Of course, Kobe I threw magic

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Speaker 7: and at the three then I had Shack. People were

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Speaker 7: lighting me up though it.

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Speaker 3: Was a very controversial. What would be your dream five

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Speaker 3: Clippers lineup?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 6: Dream five?

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Speaker 15: I mean the Lob City lineup was pretty pretty monny

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Speaker 15: as it is. Chris Paul would be up there, Randy

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Speaker 15: Foy when he was a shooter kind of before the

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Speaker 15: Lob City era, Blake at the four, DeAndre Jordan at

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Speaker 15: the five. Three probably Jamal Crawford, he'd be maybe to two.

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Speaker 7: But yeah, Clippers fan, how did you become a Clippers fan?

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Speaker 7: You know that's like, I know, you know, coming from Cali,

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Speaker 7: your Clippers fan were like, what happened in your life?

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Speaker 15: So it's actually pretty funny start. So it started in

589
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Speaker 15: second grade. We had this jump rope for heart, you know,

590
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Speaker 15: foundation in elementary school, and the winner got tickets to

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Speaker 15: the Clippers game because they were like probably five dollars, right,

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Speaker 15: But I went with my so my buddies, my dad

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Speaker 15: took me and then I was like, you know what

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Speaker 15: being a Clippers.

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Speaker 8: You're a real one for that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you guys must have fun in there.

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Speaker 5: Man, your coach Pat McPherson have known him for a while,

599
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Speaker 5: just a good, fun loving nice guy. You got dis

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Speaker 5: in there, and yeah, tell us about that room, Noah

601
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Speaker 5: fan and then is there is we.

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Speaker 15: Have Brady Russell and then Tyler Maby as well, So

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Speaker 15: we got a great group of guys. It's so much

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Speaker 15: fun in there. Uh, Pat, you know, has to wheeld

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Speaker 15: us in every now and then make sure we're not

606
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Speaker 15: too unruly, but we have a good time, you know,

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Speaker 15: make sure, we're always looking out for each other, you know,

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Speaker 15: no matter what's happening on the field.

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Speaker 3: Why And I don't mean this disrespectfully. I just think

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Speaker 3: it's fundamentally true. Why are tight ends most often like

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Speaker 3: the weirdest dude?

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Speaker 4: Am I wrong?

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Speaker 3: Granted I was covering this team when like Luke Wilson

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Speaker 3: was a rookie, so it's like, Okay, well I've seen

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Speaker 3: a version of like a very weird tight end, but uh,

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Speaker 3: but it just feels like tight ends always have like

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Speaker 3: a ton of personality, like sometimes kind of weird, Like

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Speaker 3: is it just like just a fun group? Like do

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Speaker 3: you know other tight ends around the lead where you're

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Speaker 3: like I see it?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 15: You know, Titans tend to get it along really well

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Speaker 15: with each other and kind of with everyone. I think

624
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Speaker 15: the pendulum has swung a little back since Luke was here,

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Speaker 15: you know, shout out.

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Speaker 4: To him, but uh, definitely sung the weirdest.

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Speaker 15: Yeah yeah, yeah, but we I mean we have to

628
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Speaker 15: get along with everyone. We have to along with the quarterbacks, receivers,

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Speaker 15: the old line. So I think that kind of helps

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Speaker 15: having that sociable personality.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 5: I had Shannon Sharp in Denver. He never shut up,

633
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Speaker 5: and you know, he was always talking. He was like,

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Speaker 5: I'm sure I can you know, get a job, get

635
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Speaker 5: you know, get paid a couple three hundred thousand a year.

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Speaker 6: And I was like, you're full of crap.

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Speaker 9: Way he's doing all right?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Kobe, It's crazy.

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Speaker 7: This is your fourth year in the league. Like I

640
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Speaker 7: feel like we just started covering like a couple of

641
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Speaker 7: years ago. Man, what's what's the evolution of Kobe Parkinson

642
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Speaker 7: been like as a football player and just as a man?

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Speaker 15: Well, yeah, so much life was happening in the last

644
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Speaker 15: four years. You know, I got married, I have a

645
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Speaker 15: baby on the way. God has been really good these

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Speaker 15: last four years, thank you. And then football wise, it's

647
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Speaker 15: been cool to see, you know, myself developed into the

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Speaker 15: true ability as the why blocking tight end pass catcher.

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Speaker 15: So you know, I'm thankful for the time that all

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Speaker 15: these coaches have invested in me. The former teammates or

651
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Speaker 15: current teammates that you know, have kind of shaped me

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Speaker 15: into a much better tight end than I came in.

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Speaker 5: As you take a lot of pride in your blocking,

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Speaker 5: you can tell and you beefed up and everything was

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Speaker 5: that something when you came in because I think you

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Speaker 5: were more of like a pass catching tight and at Stanford, right,

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Speaker 5: So I mean, is that something that was kind of

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Speaker 5: you must be proud of it. I guess the fact

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Speaker 5: that you had to work so hard and now you've

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Speaker 5: developed into a really good blocker.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. Absolutely.

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Speaker 15: You know, coming out of college, no one was ranking

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Speaker 15: me too high for blocking. You know, I was the

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Speaker 15: pass catcher, as you said, But the day Seattle drafted me,

665
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Speaker 15: Pete told me He's like, hey, we want you to

666
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Speaker 15: be the why And I was like, oh, okay, here

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Speaker 15: we go.

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Speaker 9: I gotta be able to block.

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Speaker 15: So kind of just put my nose to the grindstone

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Speaker 15: and worked at it. And I think it's just a

671
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Speaker 15: lot of experience is what helps you develop into that blocker?

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Speaker 4: You and your wife, you said welcoming, Is this your

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Speaker 4: first baby?

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Speaker 6: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Have you guys been turning to anyone for someone fine

676
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Speaker 3: saw on the team because there's a lot of fathers

677
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Speaker 3: on the team.

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Speaker 9: There are a lot, and it's been cool. There's a

679
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Speaker 9: lot of pregnant women.

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Speaker 4: As well, you know, Julian and Love and his wife

681
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Speaker 4: just hav you son.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, Drew and his wife, Yeah, yeah, pregnant. So it's crazy.

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Speaker 15: It feels like camp was just yesterday with all the

684
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Speaker 15: like barely showing pregnant wives and now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you guys have any last word of advice

686
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Speaker 3: before I break here for Colby.

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Speaker 7: I had my first one. I had twenty four. Happy

688
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Speaker 7: early birthday by the way, thank you much day. Money's

689
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Speaker 7: your birthday? Uh, enjoy it. Yeah, it happens fast. You

690
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Speaker 7: have fast.

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Speaker 8: My old motus is thirteen now and it haven't that quick.

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Speaker 6: I'm sure. Yeah, I'm a grandpa now. Yeah. No, I

693
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Speaker 6: think it helped me have perspective.

694
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Speaker 5: I have a really bad game or something would happen

695
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Speaker 5: at work and you come home.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it grounds you.

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Speaker 9: Absolutely so.

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Speaker 6: Did you say you guys know the genders?

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Speaker 9: It's a boy?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? Yeah, did you do.

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Speaker 8: The did you guys see the yes?

702
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Speaker 5: And he missed it well, his wife pitched him inside.

703
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Speaker 9: That's his pitch, low and inside.

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Speaker 8: I know.

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Speaker 15: We just looked at it at home together and ye, yeah,

706
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Speaker 15: really excited about it low key.

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Speaker 4: All right, Well, Kobe, we're gonna let you go.

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Speaker 3: You have you have a lot of stuff to take

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Speaker 3: care of this week as you guys prepare for your

710
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Speaker 3: regular season finale. Fingers crossed is not the finale for

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Speaker 3: this season. He is tight end Colby Parkinson. Congratulations on

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Speaker 3: the on the new edition and and have fun on Sunday.

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Speaker 9: Thanks so much, God bless you all.

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Speaker 4: Right, don't go anywhere. This is the huddle.

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Speaker 10: Pacific Lamp and Supply every Thursday from noon to two

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Speaker 10: on Seattle Sports.

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Speaker 13: Lockett starts in motion, right, goes back. Gino has time,

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Speaker 13: looks Clires back of the end zone.

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Speaker 17: Touchdown Shayhawks reaching up making the catch is Jackson Smith

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Speaker 17: and Jack Buzzy from twelve yards and that was a

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Speaker 17: laser thrown by Gino Smith right under the goal post.

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Speaker 13: Jay said, reach us up and snatches that ball between

724
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Speaker 13: the two tps and the Seahawks have taken a thirteen

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Speaker 13: to ten.

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Speaker 4: Let's take a listen to Geno speaking with reporters.

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Speaker 5: Now, Yeah, yeah, line to line to play.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, you know, it's not really a talent. It's what

729
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Speaker 16: we have to do. It's our jobs. And uh, you know,

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Speaker 16: I think guys are focused. Guys came back ready to work.

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Speaker 16: I thought we had a great practice yesterday. I thought

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Speaker 16: guys were flying around and then you know, so far

733
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Speaker 16: so good today. So guys understand what's at stake, and

734
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Speaker 16: you know, just preparing for another game on Sunday, is it.

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Speaker 15: Gonna be hard not to peek at the scoreboard or

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Speaker 15: to try to find out what's going on in the

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Speaker 15: other game, knowing that your playoff hopes kind of rest

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Speaker 15: on that game as well.

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Speaker 16: Uh, you know, for us, we gotta win the game first,

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Speaker 16: So you know, I mean, guys might peak at the scoreboard.

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Speaker 18: I mean, I don't think that matters much.

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Speaker 16: You know, you still got to go out there and

743
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Speaker 16: execute and do your job, and that shouldn't factor in

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Speaker 16: into the way you play. You know, you should play

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Speaker 16: hard regardless of what the situation is. So I don't know,

746
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Speaker 16: you know, if that will happen. I'm not sure how

747
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Speaker 16: that'll work. I mean, it's up to Arizona to show it.

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Speaker 16: But for us, man, we just gotta lock in and

749
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Speaker 16: play play ball and do whatever it takes to win.

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Speaker 19: You saw ken Walker get going in the first half

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Speaker 19: of the game on Sunday. The last time you guys

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Speaker 19: played Arizona, you will rushed for a hundred yards when

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Speaker 19: he's on What kind of difference does.

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Speaker 16: That make for the offense? I think, you know, again,

755
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Speaker 16: you know, talking about when we have a balance you know, offense.

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Speaker 16: You know, it starts up front, starts with our offensive line. Uh,

757
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Speaker 16: starts with us running the ball, being a fishing in

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Speaker 16: a running game. Ken Walker again is one of the

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Speaker 16: better backs in this league, one of the better guys

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Speaker 16: in space.

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Speaker 18: We gotta continue to get him the ball.

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Speaker 16: We know how good he is when when he gets rolling,

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Speaker 16: and we know the effects that has on the offense.

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Speaker 16: So it's always positive things when he's doing a great job.

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Speaker 16: And you know, mixing Zach in there, and uh, also

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Speaker 16: with the you know, with the passing game, you know,

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Speaker 16: being a fishing in in the passing game as well.

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Speaker 18: I think all of that, you know.

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Speaker 16: Really leads to us being in an explosive.

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Speaker 18: Offense, something that we wanna be.

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Speaker 16: And uh, you know, overall, we just gotta you know,

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Speaker 16: continue to find that balance, continue to search for you know,

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Speaker 16: run the ball obviously efficiently like I said, and then

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Speaker 16: you know, be able to pass it as well.

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Speaker 20: How's the result look defensively now compared to early.

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Speaker 18: In the season.

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Speaker 16: You know, they got some some new guys in there. Uh,

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Speaker 16: two new linebackers who we didn't see Uh, in the

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Speaker 16: first game. Overall, you know, having booted back, I think

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Speaker 16: our game was the first one that he played, and

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Speaker 16: he's been playing, you know, pretty well throughout and so overall, man,

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Speaker 16: it's it's really really what we've seen. But uh, they

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Speaker 16: have made some adjustments, they got some new personnel and uh, overall,

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Speaker 16: you know, just different players, but you know, pretty much

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Speaker 16: the same scheme.

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Speaker 18: Why did you think you guys haven't been as balanced.

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Speaker 12: As you wanted to be this year offense?

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Speaker 18: Shoot, man, that's a great question.

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Speaker 16: Uh, you know, I wish I had a direct answer

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Speaker 16: for you, but you know, as I always lead back

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Speaker 16: to execution, you know, I just think it comes down

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Speaker 16: to that on game day. You know, it's it's a

793
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Speaker 16: hard league. It's tough, tough to win, tough to run

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Speaker 16: the ball, tough to pass. Uh, it's not gonna be easy,

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Speaker 16: but I think we just gotta execute better. Overall, starting

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Speaker 16: fast is always a good thing. And then you know,

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Speaker 16: being able to finish in four minute, you know, having

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Speaker 16: the lead and then run the ball late in games,

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Speaker 16: I think that helps out as well. So just overall,

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Speaker 16: you know, us executing better I think helps out.

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Speaker 6: How big a.

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Speaker 20: Factor in that is also just maybe get some third

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Speaker 20: downs and stay on the field. But yeah, last week

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Speaker 20: the Steelers have like twenty some more players.

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Speaker 12: Than you guys.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, that's always a big thing.

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Speaker 13: You know.

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Speaker 16: We wanna manage and really control the clock, control the

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Speaker 16: possession game. Uh, that's why not turning it over. It's

810
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Speaker 16: so important. Each possession is so important, and we gotta

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Speaker 16: make sure that we're doing great on third down, you know,

812
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Speaker 16: keeping our own defense on the sideline, letting them rest,

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Speaker 16: playing complimentary football, you know, and then scoring touchdowns.

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Speaker 18: It's all about scoring points in this league.

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Speaker 6: And uh, you know, we.

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Speaker 16: Drive the ball pretty well. I feel like, you know,

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Speaker 16: for the most part when we have the ball, But

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Speaker 16: we gotta score points. And so that's really what it is.

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Speaker 18: What have you in the offense be the best stack

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Speaker 18: you think this year? I don't know.

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Speaker 16: I haven't even thought about it, honestly. I think the

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Speaker 16: best thing so far, if if that comes to mind,

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Speaker 16: is us finishing games, you know, the the two minute offense.

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Speaker 16: I think we've been really good at and being able

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Speaker 16: to finish games and you know, close them out.

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Speaker 18: I think we've been pretty good. What do you think

827
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Speaker 18: the biggest improvement area it needs to be.

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Speaker 16: Uh, you know, I think we just need to improve

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Speaker 16: on everything. You know, I don't think there's one thing

830
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Speaker 16: that we can say needs to improve. I think our

831
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Speaker 16: entire game has to improve. I think that's something I

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Speaker 16: strive for every single day. Man, just pushing myself and

833
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Speaker 16: trying to be the best I can be so that

834
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Speaker 16: you know, I can get better each and every day.

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Speaker 16: And so all of us we got we all gotta

836
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Speaker 16: get better. No one's a finished product. This offense is

837
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Speaker 16: not a finished product, and we got, you know, some

838
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Speaker 16: ways to go. So we just gotta keep working.

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Speaker 20: You had a couple of big plays in past game

840
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Speaker 20: moving and around in the pocket or any pass rush

841
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Speaker 20: that pocket movement. How much of that is just awareness

842
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Speaker 20: instinct versus something that you are practicing.

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Speaker 16: You know, A lot of it is is actually the

844
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Speaker 16: drills that I did in the off season. You know,

845
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Speaker 16: a lot of those things that I do in my

846
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Speaker 16: off season workouts are game like. You know, I wanna

847
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Speaker 16: make them feel game like. So I mean, I have

848
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Speaker 16: tons of footage of me doing the exact same movements

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Speaker 16: that I've done in the game and being able to

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Speaker 16: get a pass off, you know, either on or off

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Speaker 16: platform and just being able to find to get your

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Speaker 16: body in that position, uh with with with bodies around you,

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Speaker 16: and so a lot of that is instinct too, but

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Speaker 16: you know it's really down the reps and uh, you

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Speaker 16: know I really rep that in off season.

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Speaker 11: Uh after the game, you said, you know, you couldn't

857
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Speaker 11: imagine that you'd be rightctually be right back here as

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Speaker 11: a team needed to win and prebate to lose.

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Speaker 12: How when you look at that, how do you feel

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Speaker 12: about being in.

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Speaker 1: The same spot.

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Speaker 18: You know, it is what it is.

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Speaker 16: Man. You gotta you know, you gotta gotta play the

864
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 16: cards that you're dealt and I think we dealt ourselves

865
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Speaker 16: these cars. We had a opportunity to you know, put

866
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Speaker 16: ourselves in position to be in control.

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Speaker 18: Obviously that didn't happen, but you.

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Speaker 16: Know, we still got a chance to make the playoffs,

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Speaker 16: and so we're gonna need some help, but we gotta

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Speaker 16: handle our part first. And so that's what it is.

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Speaker 16: Like I said, I wish we had done a better

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Speaker 16: job and being able to control, you know, our own destiny,

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Speaker 16: but you know, things are where they are and we

874
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Speaker 16: just gotta move on and go with it.

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Speaker 18: And so that's what we're doing.

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Speaker 19: So Olu in the game for the first time in

877
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Speaker 19: a while, how would you seen him just gain a

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Speaker 19: better grasp for the.

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Speaker 18: Offense and performance.

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Speaker 16: You know, I think Olu has done a great job

881
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 16: from the from the first day he you know, came

882
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 16: in and you know he's a young guy, but he's

883
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 16: a he's very experienced. He's played a lot of football.

884
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 16: He understands the game. Uh, he's very professional. Comes to work, Uh,

885
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 16: he studies, He asks the right questions and and then

886
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 16: when his opportunity comes, he's always ready. He steps in,

887
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 16: does a great job. And so I think Olu is

888
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 16: only gonna get better. The more reps he gets, the

889
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 16: more he's able to see certain defenses, and uh, he'll

890
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 16: get He'll get faster with his mic points, He'll get,

891
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 16: you know, faster with all of his communication. But you know,

892
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 16: so far man, I thought, he I I think he's done.

893
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 18: A great job.

894
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 19: Rookie that you go against and practice quite a bit.

895
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 19: Devin Witherspoon gets a uh gets a pro hoole.

896
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 18: Not yeah, how does he challenge you in raptice little

897
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 18: spoon man?

898
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 16: He Uh, he's so feisty man like you know, just

899
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:45,800
Speaker 16: the type of energy he brings.

900
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 18: He's so competitive.

901
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 16: Uh, great ball skills, great blitzer, very smart for his age,

902
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 16: understands spacing, understands concepts, and you know, when you go

903
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 16: up against God's like that, you know it's always gonna

904
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 16: make you better. And hopefully we're making him better as well.

905
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 16: So I'm very happy for him, you know, really proud

906
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,280
Speaker 16: of him. You know, I know he's battled some things,

907
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 16: but he's very deserving and you know, really happy for him.

908
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 13: Like I know you are, you know, I know you

909
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 13: and you get to devote a little bit of a

910
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 13: relations Did he get a chance to watch him on

911
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 13: the night and your.

912
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:16,800
Speaker 18: Thoughts on what you're playing?

913
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:18,879
Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, I did watch. I did watch the game.

914
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 16: I thought he played phenomenal. You know, I think Mike

915
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 16: has a a bright future. I think he's a guy

916
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 16: who obviously has a a ton of talent. You know,

917
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 16: I saw that, you know, up close, and I you know,

918
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 16: I think he has the ability to play in this league.

919
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 18: I know he does.

920
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 16: And Uh, shoot, man, I hope he I hope you

921
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 16: know they put it off, Uh get the win and

922
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 16: and bring it back to to Seattle.

923
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 6: Man.

924
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 16: It's uh, it's been a great story for them. A

925
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 16: great story for Mike, all the things he's battled back

926
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 16: from and uh, you know, I'm just proud to see

927
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 16: him doing this thing.

928
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 18: Uh, he's doing a great job. DK, going over a

929
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 18: thousand yards or back to back years.

930
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:49,839
Speaker 14: How would you describe the chemistry you guys haven't had

931
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:50,800
Speaker 14: in the last couple of seasons.

932
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 18: Yeah, DK, man, he's it's you know, it's it's funny.

933
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 18: He's only getting better. You know, he's only getting better.

934
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 16: He's only really scratching the surface of of who he's

935
00:37:58,960 --> 00:37:59,399
Speaker 16: gonna be.

936
00:37:59,320 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 18: As a player.

937
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 16: He's young, young dude, man, and uh, he's still got

938
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 16: some ways to go. And to say that is really

939
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 16: scary because he's already one of the best.

940
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 18: So for him, you.

941
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:13,399
Speaker 16: Know, consecutive thousand yard seasons, Uh, you know, it's it's

942
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 16: really all the work he's put in.

943
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 18: He's deserving.

944
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 16: I know he's gonna say, you know, he wished he

945
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 16: had more yards, more catches and all that. But I

946
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 16: think he's done a great job. You know, he's having

947
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,720
Speaker 16: a heck of a season and he's a great player.

948
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:24,879
Speaker 19: Man.

949
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 18: We love to have Yes, thank you, guys.

950
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 4: We are going in the trenches with Ray Roberts.

951
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 1: Next, this is the Huddle Thursday from noon to too,

952
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: presented by hung.

953
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 2: The Services and specific Laughing Supply.

954
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 3: It is the huddle with Dave Wyman, Michael Vampas, Stacy Ross,

955
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 3: and right now Ray Roberts, Big Ray joining us as

956
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 3: we go in the trenches every single Thursday for the

957
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 3: Huddle and Ray. When I look at what happened in

958
00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 3: the trenches in this one, it sure feels like there

959
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 3: was some defensive issues.

960
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 4: I'll start with the offense though.

961
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 3: What'd you make of the offensive line and and of

962
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 3: the run game in this one?

963
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 21: Well, I think as unfortunately. First one want to say

964
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 21: Happy New Year's and I hope you guys all had

965
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 21: a great Christmas and all that, but also, like we've

966
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 21: been kind of saying all year, there's just too many

967
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 21: oppid times where they either get behind the teams because

968
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 21: the penalties or because of negative yarchdish plays, or the

969
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 21: score gets to the place where they have to kind

970
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 21: of go away from the running games. So they haven't

971
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 21: really been able to consistently feed the running backs and

972
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 21: allow the offensive line to get into a rhythm, you know,

973
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 21: running the ball, even Pete, you know, in the last

974
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 21: couple of days have said with the running game, we

975
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 21: just need to do it more, you know, and uh,

976
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 21: and so doing it more to me means that you know,

977
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 21: in those situations that you don't panic, you can still

978
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 21: stay with your with your game plan and still feed

979
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 21: the running back and allow the officive line to get

980
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 21: into a rhythm. It has been a little bit tough,

981
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 21: I think Bumpus I was listening to him earlier today

982
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 21: talking about how, uh, you know, Kenneth Walker would come

983
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 21: be healthy for a few games and be nicked up

984
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 21: for a few games, so he's in and out. So

985
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 21: you kind of mess up the rhythm of Charbonne, which

986
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 21: is supposed to be your one two punch. And then

987
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 21: with all the injuries along the offensive line and the

988
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 21: shuffling across offensive line, that has also created, like, you know,

989
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 21: some of the lack of the running game because you

990
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 21: just you just can't create rhythm. You can't create that

991
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 21: connectivity in the running game that you need, you know.

992
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 21: And a lot of people like I always say, think that,

993
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 21: you know, blocking up front, it's just whoever's the strongest dude,

994
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 21: You just push the other, the weakest guy out of

995
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 21: the way, and then give the vault and running back,

996
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 21: and it's just way more than that, you know, it's

997
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 21: just some more. You really truly have to have basically

998
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 21: five guys up front working as one, but you really

999
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 21: have to have fixed guys working this one because the

1000
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 21: running back is part of that, you know, so you

1001
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 21: get into a rhythm, they get into a rhythm, and

1002
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 21: how you're blocking, how you're coming off double teams, how

1003
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 21: the defense is playing, and how they're either overrunning or

1004
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 21: playing you know, backside touts, all that kind of stuff.

1005
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 21: It takes more than ten carries to get that figured out.

1006
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 7: Hey, bic Ray, Stacy, Me and Stacey talked about this

1007
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 7: yesterday and I flipped, like Georgia in the election.

1008
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 8: The question was are the Seahawks better this year?

1009
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,919
Speaker 7: And initially a week ago, I'm like, yeah, they're better,

1010
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 7: But then after the loss, I go, I don't know

1011
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 7: if they're better. They might be slightly worse just because

1012
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 7: of injuries. Right, they weren't as lucky with injuries this

1013
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 7: year as they were last year. So I asked you

1014
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 7: that question, man, what do you think about these hats?

1015
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 7: Are they better this year, worse the same? What are

1016
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 7: your thoughts?

1017
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 21: You know, honestly, like I don't know that they're worse,

1018
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 21: but I don't know that they took a step forward either,

1019
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 21: So you know, I think that they're just there's some

1020
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 21: things that are disappointing because, you know, I was really

1021
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 21: looking forward to kenvinth Walker having a big year, whether

1022
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 21: that's you know, live one hundred yards rushing, twelve hundred

1023
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 21: yards rushing or what have you. And then I was

1024
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 21: really interested in saying what Charbony was going to be

1025
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 21: able to do.

1026
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 6: Uh.

1027
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 21: The offensive line, I thought they had like a really

1028
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 21: good young uh offensive line, but the injuries kind of

1029
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,359
Speaker 21: messed messed that off up right from the very jump.

1030
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 21: I mean that was what week two when the both

1031
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 21: tackles were out, you know, and uh, and so it

1032
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 21: was it was really tough to get that going. Just

1033
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 21: expected more from the offense and then and then on

1034
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 21: the defensive side. Man just really didn't expect the running game,

1035
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 21: uh to be where it is. I didn't expect the

1036
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 21: tackling to be such an issue, you know, Like someone posted,

1037
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,359
Speaker 21: I saw a post on Twitter the other day that

1038
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 21: said that the Seahawks used to be the standard of

1039
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 21: how to tackle, Like people used to use their videos

1040
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 21: and their practice techniques on how to teach their teams

1041
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 21: how to tackle, and now now the Seaks can't can't

1042
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 21: seem to tackle. So to me, it's been a little disappointed.

1043
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 21: I can't say that they that they're worse off than

1044
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 21: last year, but I just don't feel like they it

1045
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 21: doesn't feel like they took the step in either direction

1046
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 21: and the way you thought they would, you know. And

1047
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 21: even with the passing game, it's been kind of hit

1048
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 21: and missed. You know, Gino's had big days and then

1049
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 21: days of it that are not so good, you know, turnovers.

1050
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 21: There's been times when you know, once they got Jash

1051
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 21: and Smith and Jigba kind of worked in, things seem

1052
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 21: to be a little bit better, but then you lost

1053
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 21: the work from the tight end. So it's so it's

1054
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 21: to me, it's just kind of been like a Stellemate almost.

1055
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 6: You mentioned the young guys.

1056
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 5: Tell us where you think Olu is and his his

1057
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 5: development as as a young player, and you know, I

1058
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,240
Speaker 5: think most guys the second year is when they really

1059
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 5: start to flourish.

1060
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 6: But how is he? Is he on track?

1061
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 21: Yeah? I think so, Dave, Like I talked to him

1062
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 21: a lot, uh, you know, he went to Virginia for

1063
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 21: a little while. I was frustrated with him when he

1064
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 21: transferred to Michigan. But but but I understood what he

1065
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 21: was trying to do. We wanted to be a better

1066
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 21: run blocker, and that's what they do up there. But

1067
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:56,879
Speaker 21: I think, you know, for him, it's just a matter

1068
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 21: of getting the reps and then really understanding what it

1069
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 21: takes to especially in the running game, what it takes

1070
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 21: to block dudes in this league. You know, like you

1071
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 21: you really have to have some good lower body strength

1072
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,720
Speaker 21: to drive guys off the ball. You can't just position

1073
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 21: block folks. And I think at Michigan he did more

1074
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,439
Speaker 21: of that. And in this league, if you're just standing

1075
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 21: at the line of scrimmage holding someone, uh, they're going

1076
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 21: to get off and made the tackle. And so I

1077
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 21: think he's he's learning that part of it. But I

1078
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 21: remember at the beginning of the season and Shane Walden

1079
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,959
Speaker 21: said that they felt like they have two starting centers

1080
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 21: and the reason that they and started sending just one

1081
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 21: to top of them, my head. What's his name?

1082
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:42,240
Speaker 6: Brown?

1083
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 21: Evan Brown. The reason they went with Evan Brown was

1084
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 21: because of the experience he had played a ton of

1085
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 21: games at guard and at and at center, and he

1086
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 21: had been pretty successful at center and so and then

1087
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 21: it was pretty interesting talking to Evan Brown because he

1088
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 21: was saying that, like he even he would go back

1089
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 21: and forth with oh Lou on how he should do

1090
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 21: certain things because oh Lou has proven himself to be

1091
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,720
Speaker 21: a pros pro and he's one of the top centers

1092
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 21: in the country for a couple of years, and so

1093
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 21: it was interesting to have a guy with that much

1094
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 21: experience still kind of leaning on a rookie going like, hey,

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Speaker 21: like what do you see, how would you do it?

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00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 21: And the relationship they had right there. So I think

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00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 21: he's on track and it's going to be interesting to

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00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 21: see what they do with the center position because Evan's

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00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 21: on the one year deal. But Evan can also play guard,

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00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 21: so he may still be a guy that you want

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00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 21: to resign because he's been healthy all year other than

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00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 21: this concussion. He missed maybe one other game, but he

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00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 21: could add depth to the offensive line in the spaces

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Speaker 21: where we needed.

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Speaker 3: What have you seen development wise from both tackles, obviously

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00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 3: to a much lesser extent Abe Lucas since we haven't

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00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 3: seen much of him at all, But from either of

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00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 3: those guys, what have you seen this year.

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00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 21: Yeah, I would say with Charles Cross, like early in

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00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 21: the season, I just saw a different run blocker. Like

1111
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 21: his pad level was better. He seemed like he stronger

1112
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 21: at the point of attack. When he first came in

1113
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 21: as a rookie, he was more athlete and pass blocker

1114
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 21: and less meat eater and grinder in the running game,

1115
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,280
Speaker 21: and it seemed like that part of his game got better.

1116
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 21: The hard thing, though, is like some of his technique

1117
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,839
Speaker 21: and like he's given up more pressures and sacks than

1118
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 21: I thought he would this year, And I think some

1119
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 21: of it comes to sometimes he gets lazy with his technique,

1120
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 21: so he either drifts too far up the field and

1121
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 21: he gives the rusher, the pass rusher two ways to go,

1122
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 21: and you never want to do that because they're always

1123
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 21: going to take the usually take the inside is to

1124
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 21: show this route to the quarterback, and so I've seen

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Speaker 21: him kind of struggle with that a little bit. And

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00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 21: then at times he carries his hands a little too

1127
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 21: low and so they'll they can slap his hands down

1128
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 21: get around the corner and it's hard to recover from that.

1129
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 21: So that he to me, the pass blocking could I

1130
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 21: thought it was going to be better, but the run

1131
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 21: blocking is definitely better. And then for Abe it's just

1132
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 21: a matter of his health. Man Abe had it all

1133
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 21: kind of nipped in the bud his rookie year. He

1134
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,399
Speaker 21: was great past walking David, you know, and I would

1135
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 21: always just relish it how powerful to do was when

1136
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,479
Speaker 21: people tried to bull rush him and he was able

1137
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 21: to handle the speed rushes and all that stuff. And

1138
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 21: then he is the absolute tone center in the run game.

1139
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,879
Speaker 21: I think if Bradford can get himself in a little

1140
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 21: better shape and really hone in on his technique, I

1141
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 21: and Lucas could be could be deadly in the run

1142
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 21: game on that right side.

1143
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's going to be really interesting to see kind

1144
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 3: of how the offensive line, which is very young, develops

1145
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 3: over the course of the next couple of seasons. But

1146
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 3: obviously we're all looking at week eighteen two.

1147
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 4: He is Ray Roberts.

1148
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 3: You can hear him on the Seahawks pre and post

1149
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 3: game show this Sunday. Thanks so much, Ray, Thanks right.

1150
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:40,439
Speaker 21: Hey, thanks for having me. You guys have a great day,

1151
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 21: you too.

1152
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 3: All right, we still have a couple things to check

1153
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 3: in with. We're gonna hear from first time pro bowler

1154
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 3: Julian Love his press conference coming up at one thirty.

1155
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 3: Before we get to that, though, the Voice of the

1156
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 3: Seahawks joins us next, Steve Rabel, Don't go anywhere.

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Speaker 10: This is the Huddle presented by Hunt Services and Pacific

1158
00:47:58,680 --> 00:47:59,880
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1159
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 2: Every Thursday from noon to two on Seattle's Towards.

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00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 3: You are listening to Battle with Dave Wyman, Michael Bumpis,

1161
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:08,919
Speaker 3: Stacy Ross, and right now Steve were Able, the Voice

1162
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 3: of the Seahawks, joining us to recap a bit of

1163
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 3: the Steelers game and then look ahead to week eighteen.

1164
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 3: And Rabes I got to say, this win, excuse me,

1165
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 3: this loss felt frustrated me because it could have been

1166
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:21,839
Speaker 3: a win. Like you know that the offense had had

1167
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 3: a pretty solid day. Obviously there was a fumble by

1168
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 3: Geno that you want back, but it was just an

1169
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 3: issue with the defense. And it's frustrating when you see

1170
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 3: the same issues happen over and over again.

1171
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 4: What are some of those issues?

1172
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 6: To you?

1173
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 22: Well, hey, Stace, how are you happy?

1174
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 6: New Year?

1175
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Speaker 22: By the way, to you in the game New Year,

1176
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 22: And I'm trying to find something to start out positive.

1177
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:45,839
Speaker 22: But you know, and there were positives in that game,

1178
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 22: just not enough of them. And you know, give the

1179
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 22: Steelers credit. They played their behinds off on offense and

1180
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 22: defense and they won that game. They punched us in

1181
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 22: the mouth early and often, and they just kept it up.

1182
00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 22: You know, you're right, there were there were certainly is

1183
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 22: on defense, mistackles being won, not getting off the field

1184
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:07,399
Speaker 22: on third down, giving up way too many third down

1185
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 22: conversions and things like that to the Steelers, and explosive

1186
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 22: plays both on the ground and in the air, and

1187
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 22: the air was the one that was really concerned about. Well,

1188
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 22: they eventually got those, but in large measure because of

1189
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 22: what they could do on the ground against this. But hey,

1190
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 22: I'm not going to let the offense off the hook either.

1191
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,720
Speaker 22: You know, three times have to settle for field goals

1192
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 22: there in that second half, and if you're not able

1193
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 22: to punch it in from the red zone, especially then

1194
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 22: then it's really difficult to win football games when your

1195
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 22: defense is struggling like they've struggled against the runs certainly.

1196
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 22: So it was all around just just a not a

1197
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 22: good way for the Seahawks, who could control their own

1198
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 22: destiny with that win, to not be in control. And

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Speaker 22: now you get what you pay for now you have

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00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 22: to win and hope for some help by the Chicago Bears, who,

1201
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 22: by the way, you know they're not going to be

1202
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 22: any flouts against the so you know we hold that

1203
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 22: hope out. But still now you have to go down

1204
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 22: and beat Arizona in Arizona and these guys are on

1205
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:08,359
Speaker 22: a roll. They're playing really well.

1206
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 7: Well, Raves, I got a positive for you. There you go,

1207
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 7: receiver to receiver. Man, it's been fun watching DK evolve

1208
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 7: as a receiver. He comes into the league, they say

1209
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 7: he's a one trick pony, and over the past few weeks, especially, man,

1210
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:27,359
Speaker 7: I've seen him make difficult catches, hand catches, some things

1211
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,720
Speaker 7: that he wasn't doing early in his career.

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Speaker 8: What do you make of DK's game last week in

1213
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 8: his season.

1214
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Speaker 22: Overall, well, I think you know, you're over eleven hundred

1215
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 22: yards in receptions and you still have a game to go.

1216
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 22: You're second in total receptions to Tyler Lockett. But what

1217
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 22: is the averaging? I mean some astronomical number for for

1218
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 22: receptions and then scoring as well with a touchdown, So

1219
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 22: you know, he's done everything they could ask him to do.

1220
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Speaker 22: Plus what he doesn't get enough credit for is blocking

1221
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 22: when you see Ken Walker make a big run or

1222
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 22: one of the other receivers catch the ball and get

1223
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,800
Speaker 22: yards after the catch. Oftentimes it's part of that reason

1224
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 22: is because DK is out there blocking for him. Yeah,

1225
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 22: has he gotten into some scrapes, sure, but that's because

1226
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 22: he's just a fierce competitor. And some of those penalties

1227
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 22: you know you'll take. They're not dumb penalties, they're aggressive penalties,

1228
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,760
Speaker 22: and some of those you'll take. If he keeps playing

1229
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 22: the way he is, he's definitely become, you know, the

1230
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 22: number one receiver, and the three of them together have

1231
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 22: really gelled well. I think they needed to utilize Tyler

1232
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 22: a little bit more this last weekend. I'm not sure

1233
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 22: if it was simply game plan or it was just

1234
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 22: what the defense was doing or not doing. And they

1235
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 22: didn't obviously do a very good job in taking taking

1236
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 22: DK away because he had what seven catches or something

1237
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 22: like that. So I think that the receiving crew is good.

1238
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 22: You know, I wouldn't change a thing. Plus throw in

1239
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:58,839
Speaker 22: a couple of those tight ends. Fand had a great day,

1240
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 22: which is one of the reasons Tyler might not get

1241
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 22: the receptions that he was looking for last week because

1242
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 22: Noah had some big catches, both in crossing routes and

1243
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 22: in stop routes and things in the middle of the

1244
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 22: field where the Seahawks knew they could attack the Steelers.

1245
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,280
Speaker 6: Hey, Raib's another positive.

1246
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 5: He got three Pro Bowlers, Bobby Wagner, Julian Love, and

1247
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:21,399
Speaker 5: Devin Witherspoon. And I'm trying to remember the last time

1248
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 5: that we saw somebody, at least since I've been covering

1249
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 5: the team, which is two thousand and four. I think

1250
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 5: I think Devin Witherspoon maybe the closest is Lofa Lofa Tatupu.

1251
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 5: His his rookie year he had, he had a really

1252
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 5: good year. But man, he has just been so much

1253
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 5: fun to watch. And who would you compare him to?

1254
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:42,720
Speaker 5: And when's the last time you remember watching a rookie

1255
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 5: have a season like this?

1256
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 22: Well, remember Rieke Wollam was a was a Pro Bowler

1257
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 22: just a year ago. So now you've got two rookie cornerbacks,

1258
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 22: well one now in his second year and the other

1259
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 22: a rookie who you know in consecutive years went to

1260
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 22: the Pro Bowl. That's that's pretty darn good. That's a

1261
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 22: that's your football staff. The scouts and everybody understanding that

1262
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 22: these two guys could play, even though Week was a

1263
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 22: lesser graft choice, and he just kind of came out

1264
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 22: of nowhere last year. But to be able to get

1265
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 22: that out of him a year ago and then spoon

1266
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:19,399
Speaker 22: to get all that you could get out of him

1267
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 22: in not only in just covering past his passes defense.

1268
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 22: He should have more interceptions than he does, but the

1269
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,800
Speaker 22: one he has was what ninety seven for a touchdown,

1270
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 22: but also his blitzing ability, his tackling ability near the

1271
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 22: line of scrimmage. He's just remarkable to watch and he's

1272
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 22: only going to get better. And I think that's one

1273
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:40,360
Speaker 22: of the points that Pete made earlier this week, is

1274
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,919
Speaker 22: that that whole group of players, both in their first

1275
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 22: year and their second year, are going to do nothing

1276
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 22: but get better at the end of their third year.

1277
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 22: We just like to see him play another couple of

1278
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 22: games here in the playoffs.

1279
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 3: Hey, Rapes, I got kind of a weird, slash fun

1280
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:59,280
Speaker 3: one that will require you to think about games past.

1281
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 3: Julian Love, a first time pro bowlor, congratulations to him,

1282
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 3: by the way, said that he was really surprised, like

1283
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 3: genuinely surprised, when he was named to a Pro Bowl,

1284
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 3: which I thought was just kind of funny, Like it was,

1285
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 3: It's honest, right, it's being like, oh wow, it's it's like,

1286
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,359
Speaker 3: it's like how a normal person would react to just

1287
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 3: a surprise of any kind. Is there something that happened

1288
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 3: over the course of a season or a game. So

1289
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 3: it could be a game that you played, it could

1290
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 3: be a game you called that genuinely surprised you.

1291
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,359
Speaker 8: Wow, A possible So.

1292
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 6: You need to send him emails the night before.

1293
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's so many different options of like, you know,

1294
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 3: just like a surprise.

1295
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 5: They wont he's an old man, he's drinking his milk.

1296
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:50,319
Speaker 22: Okay, well here was here was one. I got exactly

1297
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 22: zero votes for the Pro Bowl in nineteen seventy nine,

1298
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 22: which was four more than I thought I was going

1299
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 22: to get.

1300
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 6: So that was.

1301
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 22: Really surprising. Things that that that have happened. Oh my god.

1302
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 22: There's just there's so many big plays and and you know,

1303
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 22: big moments for players, you know, the take a look

1304
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:18,319
Speaker 22: at that again we talked about just because it's more

1305
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 22: recent and my brain is working a little more recently,

1306
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 22: but the things that you asked of Witherspoon, you know,

1307
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 22: you brought him in here as a cornerback, and we

1308
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 22: figured that he'd be a starter from day one, But

1309
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 22: we didn't know that they were going to put him

1310
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:34,839
Speaker 22: at that nickel position, and all that did was put

1311
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 22: him closer to the ball on every play that he's

1312
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 22: in there and made him that much more effective. That

1313
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 22: was a little bit surprising to me that he was

1314
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:45,720
Speaker 22: able to do that. And now go back a few years.

1315
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 22: Did I think Russ was going to be as good

1316
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 22: as he was early on, especially and and the way

1317
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 22: he was able to kind of run that offense and

1318
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 22: make plays. No, I don't know that anybody could have

1319
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 22: as a third round draft pick. And then, you know,

1320
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 22: you just keep kind of going back down the line,

1321
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:03,839
Speaker 22: you know, go back to Steve Largent. Did we did

1322
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 22: we know that in seventy six Steve Largent was going

1323
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 22: to end up being a Hall of Famer? You know,

1324
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 22: after about three years in we knew he was a

1325
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 22: heck of a football player. But even then, do you

1326
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 22: know that that guy is going to have that lasting

1327
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 22: ability to continue to make plays through his entire career

1328
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 22: and eventually wind up in the Hall of Fame. I

1329
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 22: don't know that anybody would have said that early on.

1330
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 22: So yeah, there have been lots of those things over

1331
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 22: the years, and given half a chance, and had I

1332
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 22: not had so much to drink last night, I would

1333
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 22: probably have remembered more of those. And no, I didn't

1334
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 22: have anything to drink last night, now, thank you.

1335
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 5: Like I said, like I all do, I agree with

1336
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 5: you man. I think Spoon has been a huge surprise.

1337
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 5: I think he really has. I didn't expect that from him.

1338
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 5: I didn't expect him them to use him that way

1339
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 5: as well.

1340
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 22: Yeah, and you know it's it's it's still so early

1341
00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 22: in his career. Just just think of of how much

1342
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 22: he can do yet in the future and all those

1343
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:05,760
Speaker 22: young guys, and again, as Pete talked about this this week,

1344
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 22: from the first to the second year is a step.

1345
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 22: From the second to third is a really big step,

1346
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 22: because those second year guys are the ones that really

1347
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 22: now are expected to step up and take over for

1348
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 22: some of the older players. And you know, you're going

1349
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 22: to expect things out of boy A Mafe, who is

1350
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 22: you know, one sack away from having double digit sack

1351
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 22: That hasn't happened around here since twenty eighteen. So you

1352
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 22: get some of those guys really continue to roll in

1353
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 22: the law, and I just think there's going to be

1354
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 22: nothing but great things. I just as everybody is, as

1355
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 22: all the players and everybody say, just wish you could

1356
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 22: control that destiny and you had the chance to do it,

1357
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 22: and you didn't do it.

1358
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 3: On Sunday, still a chance, obviously if the Bears managed

1359
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 3: to beat the Packers, and obviously the Seahawks need to

1360
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 3: do their part and beat the Cardinals. Raves is going

1361
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 3: to be on the call on this Sunday's game alongside

1362
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 3: Dave Wyman.

1363
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 22: Thanks so much, Rabel, Thank you, guys, appreciate it.

1364
00:57:59,280 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 6: Serious.

1365
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 3: All right, Well, speaking of Julian Love, we're gonna hear

1366
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 3: from Julian Love at the podium reacting to his Pro

1367
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 3: Bowl nod.

1368
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 4: Next, don't go anywhere.

1369
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 13: Urch drops, Fats Hastime, loads up, throws aj Brown the defense.

1370
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 14: Except don't you keep its feet in? He does say,

1371
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 14: off ball the interception.

1372
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 6: Make I love.

1373
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 14: This guy's going enough for the Seahawks defense making big plays.

1374
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 3: That one sealed the win for Seattle against the Philadelphia Eagles.

1375
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 3: And now Julian Love, you pro bowler speaking with reporters.

1376
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 4: Take a listen.

1377
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 23: Uh, very unexpected. Yeah, just genuine shock. Yeah, and obviously

1378
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 23: it's it's it's cool my family and are sem excited

1379
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 23: just for.

1380
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:47,439
Speaker 18: You know that nod?

1381
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 9: Why are you shocked?

1382
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 18: I don't know.

1383
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 23: I mean, shoot, there is some games I I didn't

1384
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 23: play this year. Uh you know that Ravens game, Dallas game.

1385
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:57,920
Speaker 23: I was out there that much by a lot of

1386
00:58:57,920 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 23: people's eyes. I was the third safety, which you know,

1387
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 23: and some games I was and so yeah, I just

1388
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 23: try to say productive, just kind of do my thing,

1389
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:07,919
Speaker 23: and it's cool and you know fan voting. I even

1390
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 23: pushed for that this year, and so I was just

1391
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 23: out of my mind all year.

1392
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 18: How did how did you find out? Uh?

1393
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 23: We were in uh me and Spoon, We're in uh

1394
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 23: in in the locker were our lockers, We right next

1395
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 23: to each other, and uh somebody grabs us and rusts

1396
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 23: us to an office and I'm like, oh, I just

1397
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 23: signed something, you know, direct depositive, always acting funny and

1398
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 23: so uh in the Pete sitting in there in his

1399
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 23: little godfather chair, big godfather chair right there, and uh

1400
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 23: he's just like congrats, uh to myself, Spoon and Bobby.

1401
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 19: When you look at the numbers, I mean you say

1402
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 19: that you were on the field that much necessarily sustainety,

1403
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 19: but you do leave the team.

1404
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 18: That special team's tap.

1405
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 19: Of course, career highs in certain categories, we took those numbers.

1406
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 18: Do you take most pride in? Uh?

1407
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 23: I do take a lot of pride uh in the

1408
00:59:57,480 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 23: special team's numbers.

1409
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 18: My wife always last, I mean when.

1410
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 23: I say that after each game, whatever happens, you can

1411
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 23: get a pick.

1412
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 18: Whatever, did you see a special team tackle? Did you

1413
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 18: see plant?

1414
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 23: And she always jokes, guy, all know, that's kind of

1415
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 23: who I am as a player. I feel like I'm

1416
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 23: just somebody who tries to be out there and be productive.

1417
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 23: And I think those guys in spect teams room really

1418
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 23: are just the grittiest players on the team and just

1419
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 23: try to get it by any means, and so I

1420
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 23: kind of relate to them. So yeah, that's always I

1421
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 23: keep track of that stat for sure. And I don't know,

1422
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 23: I just you know, tackles is a thing that's just

1423
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 23: Midwest football for me.

1424
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 19: I think within seventeen tackles of your career high. And

1425
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:37,439
Speaker 19: as you pointed out, you haven't been playing as many

1426
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 19: snaps as some previous years. So what did you improve on?

1427
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 19: What change that's gotten you that close to that career.

1428
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 23: I have no idea. I feel like I don't know.

1429
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:49,959
Speaker 23: I've always been a solid tackler. I've just been putting

1430
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 23: in some opportunities to make a lot of plays.

1431
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 6: You know.

1432
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 23: This past week it wasn't our cleanest game, but I

1433
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:56,919
Speaker 23: had a good amount of tackles. I had a couple

1434
01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 23: of three pieces special teams for two games.

1435
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 18: I think. I don't know.

1436
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 23: I think just my mindset has just been trying to

1437
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 23: be consistent as I can, whatever the circumstances around myself are.

1438
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 23: I just try to get in there and just be

1439
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 23: around the ball. Get to the ball. My high school

1440
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 23: coach still text me almost every day, they just get

1441
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 23: to the ball. That's all you have to do. Uh,

1442
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 23: And yeah, that's I think what that makes up.

1443
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 20: As you said, at times, you're the third safety this year.

1444
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 20: Was there going back to Marcher and making a decision.

1445
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 20: Was there any hesitation about, like, hey, do I want

1446
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 20: to go to a team where I'm not a clear starter?

1447
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 23: Inditionally, I'll say, yeah, I'm coming off of being a captain,

1448
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 23: being you know, kind of starting guy, playing almost one

1449
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:42,919
Speaker 23: hundred percent of snaps last year into a situation where

1450
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 23: I have two top quality, you know, high character safeties,

1451
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 23: and I had to make a choice like, Okay, do

1452
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 23: I want to be the man somewhere or do I

1453
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 23: want to be somewhere where you know, I can win,

1454
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 23: I can grow, I can just learn from.

1455
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 18: And it to talking to Pete for.

1456
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 23: The first time, I think got me, got that affirmed for.

1457
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 18: Me, And yeah, I knew what it was this year.

1458
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 23: Now, I wasn't caught off guard by the situation this

1459
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 23: year and just being around Quandre and Jamal has just

1460
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 23: been nothing but great for my game. I think those

1461
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 23: guys are are great leaders. They are positive with me,

1462
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 23: they are constructive with me, and you know, they said

1463
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 23: a higher standard I feel like for myself, which I'm

1464
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 23: I'm really grateful for often. Oh, like we talk often.

1465
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 23: You talk every other day. Yeah, that's that's my guy.

1466
01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 18: That's not usual. I don't know.

1467
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 23: I think he was one of the first people who

1468
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:43,920
Speaker 23: kind of believed me in in a higher sense other than.

1469
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:44,959
Speaker 18: You know, my my mom and dad.

1470
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 13: Uh.

1471
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 23: He helps run my youth camp in the in the

1472
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 23: in the off season. He's somebody who also just kind

1473
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 23: of shoots it straight. I think some of the hardest

1474
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 23: critics I have is won. My wife, she's she's a

1475
01:02:57,200 --> 01:03:01,400
Speaker 23: straight shooter. And him, if something is out there it

1476
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:03,960
Speaker 23: looks funky, not giving good effort, not chasing down plays,

1477
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:07,720
Speaker 23: not running to the ball, he'll let me know. And

1478
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 23: he's he's well known in Chicago Land area. He's coached me,

1479
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 23: my brother retied, helping retire my jersey in my high school.

1480
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:16,840
Speaker 18: And so yeah, he's a he's a great figure.

1481
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 20: What was Pete's sales pitch to you when you were

1482
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 20: talking about your debating where whether.

1483
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 6: Or not to sign here?

1484
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 23: Honestly, just him looking at the film. I think him

1485
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 23: seeing what I do on the film. I wasn't a

1486
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 23: huge name in free agency, I don't think. And uh,

1487
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:33,640
Speaker 23: he just said, you can succeed here. We want to

1488
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 23: run a lot of three safety stuff. You can play deep,

1489
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 23: you can play up your versatile, you can cover, and

1490
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:42,440
Speaker 23: we have something special growing here. Obviously at the time

1491
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 23: we had some draft picks. We just had a lot

1492
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 23: to look forward to. And just that excitement it got me.

1493
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:51,240
Speaker 23: It got me sold. Also, it was sunny here in Seattle,

1494
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 23: and so his office is right on the corner next

1495
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:57,479
Speaker 23: to the little lake, and I just he he Yeah,

1496
01:03:57,520 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 23: he summoned some good some good energy for that meeting.

1497
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:03,600
Speaker 21: So yeah, when you went back and looked at the film,

1498
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 21: who said, what, I guess, what do you find to

1499
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:05,440
Speaker 21: see you?

1500
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:06,440
Speaker 6: From the defensive standpoint?

1501
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 23: You know, I saw a lot of simple stuff just

1502
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 23: not done the best. Uh that's from me, that's from

1503
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 23: everyone across the defense. I think everybody had those one

1504
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:18,200
Speaker 23: or two one offs. I always talk about one offs,

1505
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:20,480
Speaker 23: but I think that's something we have to just minimize.

1506
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:23,720
Speaker 23: Tackling obviously was a was a hot topic and we're

1507
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:26,200
Speaker 23: working on that. But it's really just it's just playing

1508
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 23: a tough brand of football that we just slipped up

1509
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 23: on and we never got our grip on for the game.

1510
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:34,200
Speaker 23: And so now this week that's just where we're upping it.

1511
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 23: We're working on it, and we know what every team

1512
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 23: is seeing. And so yeah, that's kind of why I

1513
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:40,720
Speaker 23: took back from it.

1514
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 18: You talked about Pete saying that you could be successful here.

1515
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:45,840
Speaker 3: So your first year with them and you get your

1516
01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:48,120
Speaker 3: first Parbole selection, you know, what does that mean to you?

1517
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 18: It's unbelievable. Like I said, it's crazy.

1518
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:56,160
Speaker 23: Uh, I mean it's obviously you can hear it. You

1519
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 23: can think it, but that's never on my mind, especially

1520
01:04:59,320 --> 01:04:59,600
Speaker 23: this year.

1521
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:00,800
Speaker 18: I just was never on my.

1522
01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:03,880
Speaker 23: Mind for a possibility I was productive. I knew kind

1523
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 23: of where I stacked against everybody else, but you know,

1524
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 23: I just thought it was one of those things that

1525
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 23: I don't usually get. And yeah, it's it's it's affirming,

1526
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 23: for sure, But I know, obviously there's a lot more

1527
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:17,800
Speaker 23: that I left out there that I feel.

1528
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 12: I can get.

1529
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:22,200
Speaker 19: Arizona's leading receiver is a tight end. Tight ends and

1530
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:25,560
Speaker 19: those challenges for this scause. Where is the biggest challenge

1531
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:26,440
Speaker 19: with mc bride.

1532
01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 23: You know, he's a talented, confident player, young guy. Uh,

1533
01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 23: he has some speed. You know, he's a high four

1534
01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:35,960
Speaker 23: four four five guy, he's physical.

1535
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 18: I think he's on the rise.

1536
01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:39,240
Speaker 23: So you're gonna hear about his name probably for the

1537
01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 23: next coming years, and you know, we're gonna be seeing

1538
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:43,480
Speaker 23: him for the next coming years. And uh, yeah, he's

1539
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 23: just he can do it all. He's become that safety

1540
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:48,960
Speaker 23: net for that offense. Yeah, he's just a he's an

1541
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 23: effective player. So yeah, it's uh, you know, we gotta

1542
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 23: know where he's at your Yeah, your class one class

1543
01:05:58,240 --> 01:05:58,600
Speaker 23: above me.

1544
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 18: So he's a year older. Yeah, How was that going.

1545
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 17: The Notre Dame and maintaining a relationship, playing big time

1546
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 17: football and then going to the NFL.

1547
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 18: And maintaining a relationship.

1548
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 23: Yeah, it was you know, ups and downs, highs and

1549
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:18,439
Speaker 23: lows initially, but then you know, we've I think this year,

1550
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 23: we'll be together dating whatever for ten years now, and

1551
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 23: I feel like the past eight have just been, you know,

1552
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:30,800
Speaker 23: has just been the best. Uh, it's been. I mean

1553
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:32,760
Speaker 23: we just know each other. She's she's she's my person

1554
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:35,080
Speaker 23: and people some people in the in the building know her,

1555
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:36,080
Speaker 23: have heard of her.

1556
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 18: She's she's the smartest people I know.

1557
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:42,360
Speaker 23: And she's a she's good now, she's a wonderful mother.

1558
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 23: She's doing a good job with the baby. Did she

1559
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:50,439
Speaker 23: went to Saint Mary's so school? How far I could

1560
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:53,240
Speaker 23: throw a football to the same maryas. Yeah, it's right

1561
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:57,000
Speaker 23: across one one road. No, she was your heead, so

1562
01:06:57,040 --> 01:06:59,800
Speaker 23: she was going there, and then I was a you know, lower,

1563
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:03,400
Speaker 23: I was through sorry recruit, got an offer from Notre Dame,

1564
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:06,560
Speaker 23: committed on the spot that that was my dream school,

1565
01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:08,040
Speaker 23: and just it just happened to work out, and that

1566
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 23: just I think that was just something that was meant

1567
01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:13,520
Speaker 23: to be for sure, and that made it a ton

1568
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 23: easier for our relationship.

1569
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:19,960
Speaker 18: She bounced around a few sports. She'll tell you she's

1570
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 18: an athlete.

1571
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:24,440
Speaker 23: She played for sports, just none of them really for

1572
01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:27,880
Speaker 23: more than like two years. And so yeah, she she

1573
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:32,880
Speaker 23: she's a solid tennis wing. That's about it. Don't don't

1574
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 23: put that anywhere every no one write that. Let's cut

1575
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 23: that edit that. I don't need that coming up later.

1576
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Speaker 3: John Boyle, Seahawks dot com reporter, is going to join

1577
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:45,960
Speaker 3: us next and we'll recap our final thoughts heading into

1578
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 3: this one.

1579
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 4: Don't go anywhere this.

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Speaker 10: This is the Huddle, presented by on.

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01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:55,640
Speaker 2: Services Pacific Lamping Supply every Thursday from noon to two

1582
01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 2: on Seattle Sports.

1583
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:01,600
Speaker 3: John Boyle joins us now on the huddle, And uh, John,

1584
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 3: when you left this game, we're.

1585
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:04,920
Speaker 4: Gonna look ahead to Arizona kind of towards the end

1586
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:05,440
Speaker 4: of the segment.

1587
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:09,240
Speaker 3: But when you left this game between the Seahawks and Steelers,

1588
01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:12,560
Speaker 3: what did you think to yourself as maybe the biggest

1589
01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:14,400
Speaker 3: reason that the Seahawks weren't able to close.

1590
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 6: This one out?

1591
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:17,360
Speaker 20: I mean, just you can say they're defense in hole,

1592
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:19,680
Speaker 20: but particularly their run defense. I mean, you can't let

1593
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:21,960
Speaker 20: a team rush for it one hundred and forty five

1594
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:24,240
Speaker 20: in the first half alone, two hundred in the game. Like,

1595
01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:27,599
Speaker 20: that's not a winning formula at all. And they've you know,

1596
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:30,320
Speaker 20: they they'd done a better job of limiting the big

1597
01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:32,800
Speaker 20: plays the previous two weeks. Even when teams were getting yards,

1598
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:35,240
Speaker 20: they weren't getting the explosives, and they got away from

1599
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:36,240
Speaker 20: that and it cost him a game.

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01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:40,200
Speaker 7: When you look at the tackling the issues because they've

1601
01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:42,559
Speaker 7: like they started the season with those issues and it.

1602
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:44,560
Speaker 8: Disappears for a while and then it re emerges.

1603
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:48,240
Speaker 7: Is it more of like the scheme or do you

1604
01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:50,679
Speaker 7: think it's just the players it's not finishing the job

1605
01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:51,639
Speaker 7: once they get to the rocks.

1606
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:53,880
Speaker 20: I mean there's some of both. Pete Carroll playing this out,

1607
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:57,400
Speaker 20: but it's like sometimes yeah, one guy missing individual tackle.

1608
01:08:57,520 --> 01:08:59,479
Speaker 20: It looks bad when you see it, but if the

1609
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:02,160
Speaker 20: scheme's play right, there's three guys there and so you're

1610
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:04,200
Speaker 20: not counting on one guy to make that open field

1611
01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 20: tackle or bringing guy down, like coming off the backside

1612
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:09,960
Speaker 20: and drag a guy down. So it's definitely both. I mean,

1613
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 20: Pete Carroll pointed to that a couple of times this week,

1614
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 20: like guys just weren't always playing things right. And when

1615
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:18,320
Speaker 20: that happens, it creates those opportunities where one guy has

1616
01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:20,880
Speaker 20: to make a tough play. So but there's also times

1617
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:22,400
Speaker 20: where guys has got to make the plane. They weren't

1618
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:24,680
Speaker 20: get it done, so it falls on everybody.

1619
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 6: Hey, Julian Love.

1620
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:28,920
Speaker 5: Was talking about how they told him he was a

1621
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:31,840
Speaker 5: pro bowler and all that take us through that they

1622
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:33,160
Speaker 5: try to make it a big deal.

1623
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 20: Yeah, so I guess the way he and we talked

1624
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 20: to Devin Witherspoon afterwards. Soon it sounds like they they

1625
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:41,920
Speaker 20: just pulled him, you know, the three guys, Bobby Spoon

1626
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 20: and Julian Love pulled him aside this is after practice

1627
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:46,160
Speaker 20: story and told him, hey, you know, you got to

1628
01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:48,680
Speaker 20: go talk to Pete really quick, and Witherspoon joke he

1629
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:51,240
Speaker 20: thought he was in trouble for something, and they pull

1630
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:54,320
Speaker 20: him into mo Kelly's office and Pete's sitting there in

1631
01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 20: a chair and tells him, hey, congrats guys. So I think,

1632
01:09:57,360 --> 01:09:59,639
Speaker 20: you know, for Bobby Wagner, it's almost old hat, it's

1633
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:01,920
Speaker 20: still honor but nine times, but for I think both

1634
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:04,400
Speaker 20: you know, both the other guys first time and in

1635
01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:07,320
Speaker 20: the case of Julian Love, probably pretty unexpected. He said

1636
01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:09,479
Speaker 20: that espression was like, for part of this season, I

1637
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:11,720
Speaker 20: was the third safety. Yeah, I wasn't on the Pro

1638
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:15,040
Speaker 20: Bowl ballot, and here he is getting a nice, nice

1639
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:15,799
Speaker 20: little recognition.

1640
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:17,720
Speaker 3: Yeah. If I'm Julian and Devin, I'm thinking, Okay, all

1641
01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 3: these Bobby's here, So if he did something.

1642
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:26,120
Speaker 4: We're okay, Bobby, maybe we're yeah, you know, I'm gonna

1643
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:28,439
Speaker 4: guess if he did something bad, maybe they'll take it easy,

1644
01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:30,000
Speaker 4: you know, and all of us.

1645
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 3: It is very cool though, to have, i mean, kind

1646
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 3: of an extension of this conversation, a second consecutive year

1647
01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:39,360
Speaker 3: with a drafted cornerback, you know, having those honors. I'm

1648
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:41,760
Speaker 3: sure it'll be a candidate in a close one for

1649
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 3: Defensive Rookie of the Year.

1650
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 4: It's uh, it's it's been a bummer. We haven't seen

1651
01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:50,200
Speaker 4: an even better season from Woolen because in theory, they've

1652
01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:52,680
Speaker 4: got this really great duo. I mean, how do you

1653
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:53,880
Speaker 4: kind of see the group right now?

1654
01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:57,759
Speaker 20: Yeah, I mean it's definitely been with you know, for Woolen.

1655
01:10:57,840 --> 01:10:59,599
Speaker 20: He started the year hurt, and I think that's kind

1656
01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:01,479
Speaker 20: of set him back a little bit, and it hasn't

1657
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 20: been his best series, been playing with some injuries during

1658
01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:06,160
Speaker 20: the season too, but he's still done a lot of

1659
01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:08,160
Speaker 20: really good things. I think they look at it as,

1660
01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:10,840
Speaker 20: you know, this was a guy who probably exceeded all

1661
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:13,559
Speaker 20: reasonable expectations as a rookie, given you know, how new

1662
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:16,160
Speaker 20: he is in a position he was considered this really

1663
01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:18,800
Speaker 20: raw prospect that people didn't expect big things from him.

1664
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:21,200
Speaker 20: Then he had that crazy rookie year. So long term,

1665
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:22,800
Speaker 20: I think everybody's still very.

1666
01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:25,320
Speaker 6: High on his upside. And then we've seen what Spoon's done.

1667
01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:26,080
Speaker 6: He's just been awesome.

1668
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:28,000
Speaker 20: So yeah, I think those are two guys you can

1669
01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:31,200
Speaker 20: look at as like really big foundational, long term pieces here.

1670
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:33,640
Speaker 7: How good has this in tier line been? Man, I

1671
01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:36,080
Speaker 7: think Leonard's played good. Jan Reed he has been getting

1672
01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:38,720
Speaker 7: some love, and when we think about the difficulties in

1673
01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:40,960
Speaker 7: the run game, you naturally want to look at the

1674
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:42,040
Speaker 7: interier guy and say.

1675
01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:43,640
Speaker 8: Okay, what are they doing? But I think they've had

1676
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:44,400
Speaker 8: a pretty good season.

1677
01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:44,639
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1678
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:47,200
Speaker 20: I mean Leonard Williams, especially coming on late since he

1679
01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:49,439
Speaker 20: got here, he's the last few games been playing really well,

1680
01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:51,519
Speaker 20: you know, making a lot of plays as a pass rusher,

1681
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 20: doing stuff in their run game. Jared Reed's been, you know,

1682
01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:57,120
Speaker 20: one of their more consistent players all season long, game

1683
01:11:57,160 --> 01:11:59,800
Speaker 20: in game out. So those guys, you know, individually, they're

1684
01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:02,360
Speaker 20: both playing really well. But unfortunately, when you look at

1685
01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:05,080
Speaker 20: the run game problems like it takes a lot of plays,

1686
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:07,599
Speaker 20: It takes everybody doing their job right at the same time,

1687
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:09,720
Speaker 20: and a couple guys can be playing great, but if

1688
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:12,519
Speaker 20: one guy even messes up, it can get away from you.

1689
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:15,840
Speaker 5: You're out at practices and stuff like that. These guys

1690
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:18,240
Speaker 5: were asking me, like, as a linebacker, what do you

1691
01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:21,000
Speaker 5: do late in the season to practice tackling because you

1692
01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:23,799
Speaker 5: can't really go full speed and you're not in pads

1693
01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:24,200
Speaker 5: at all.

1694
01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:25,240
Speaker 6: But do you see him out there?

1695
01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:27,000
Speaker 5: I mean, you know obvious saying, Look, you can work

1696
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:28,280
Speaker 5: on your pad level, you can.

1697
01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:30,880
Speaker 6: Work on they're still your your footwork and stuff like that.

1698
01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:32,080
Speaker 6: Do you see them a little bit?

1699
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:33,960
Speaker 20: No, I mean they still do that where it's you know,

1700
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:36,519
Speaker 20: like Pete Carroll always talks about their tackling fundamentals of

1701
01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:38,479
Speaker 20: you know, the way a lot of it's especially the

1702
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:41,000
Speaker 20: open field stuff, the way you approach the guy, you know,

1703
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:42,880
Speaker 20: lining it up right, so you're not going to miss

1704
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:44,720
Speaker 20: him keeping your head out of it, because that's a

1705
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:46,720
Speaker 20: big part of it now as well. So yeah, I

1706
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:48,559
Speaker 20: mean they're not putting pads on, they're not. I mean,

1707
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:50,840
Speaker 20: basically nobody in the NFL tackles of the ground, even

1708
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 20: in training camp anymore. So that part of it you

1709
01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:56,000
Speaker 20: can't really simulate. But it's more about getting the fundamentals

1710
01:12:56,040 --> 01:12:57,760
Speaker 20: down to put yourself in the right position to make

1711
01:12:57,760 --> 01:12:59,360
Speaker 20: the play.

1712
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:02,960
Speaker 3: Kind of a weird one, but uh, I was gonna well, no,

1713
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:05,599
Speaker 3: here's the deal, John, I was going to ask you,

1714
01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:07,800
Speaker 3: what do you hope this team has learned this year?

1715
01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:10,840
Speaker 3: And I was like, well, and I think we all

1716
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:13,519
Speaker 3: know the answer. So maybe from the outside looking in

1717
01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:17,840
Speaker 3: as a reporter, who's you know, covered this team and

1718
01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:20,040
Speaker 3: covered a couple of teams for many years, does it

1719
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:21,720
Speaker 3: feel like each year you learn something new?

1720
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:23,280
Speaker 4: And if so, what did you learn this year?

1721
01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:24,760
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1722
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:26,840
Speaker 20: Boy, that's a big broad question.

1723
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 6: I'm not sure I was ready.

1724
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:28,639
Speaker 12: To answer it.

1725
01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 20: I'm good at those more than anthing like this team

1726
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:32,560
Speaker 20: in particular.

1727
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:33,439
Speaker 12: I think it's just.

1728
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:38,120
Speaker 20: Learning lessons about like the inconsistencies and how those can

1729
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:41,519
Speaker 20: hurt you. Because we've seen just about in every aspect,

1730
01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:45,519
Speaker 20: whether it's offense, defense, run, pass. They've done they've done

1731
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:47,920
Speaker 20: everything well at times this year, and they've struggled in

1732
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:50,400
Speaker 20: just about every area at times this year. Sometimes there's

1733
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Speaker 20: an obvious you know, guys are injured, whatever, but other

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01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 20: times it's just sort of mysteriously they get away from something,

1735
01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:57,080
Speaker 20: and you know, DK Metcalf talked about this, Yes, or

1736
01:13:57,160 --> 01:13:59,439
Speaker 20: is like we see it. We can be you know,

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01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:01,519
Speaker 20: really team when we do X, Y and Z, right,

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01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:03,760
Speaker 20: but it's putting it all together and I you know,

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01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:05,960
Speaker 20: I think some of that is Pete Carroll brought up.

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01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:07,680
Speaker 20: It's some of that's youth. This is still a really

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01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:10,400
Speaker 20: young team. They've got, you know, twenty some first and

1742
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:12,519
Speaker 20: second year guys on the fifty three matters roster. So

1743
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:16,320
Speaker 20: sometimes young guys will make mistakes things like that. But yeah,

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01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:19,160
Speaker 20: it's it's just a case of finding what's working for

1745
01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:20,400
Speaker 20: you and doing it more consistently.

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01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:24,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, he's gav me PTSD to uh Thanksgiving where my

1747
01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:27,200
Speaker 7: grandma used to force everyone to say what they're thankful

1748
01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:29,360
Speaker 7: for in front of like fifteen people. Tell me what

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01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:34,639
Speaker 7: you're But when you're a kid, you you know, because

1750
01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:38,360
Speaker 7: like each time to say family, yeah, family, My Grandma'll

1751
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:40,759
Speaker 7: be like original thought, original thoughts.

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01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:43,639
Speaker 4: If you're you're number fourteen, you're.

1753
01:14:43,439 --> 01:14:47,240
Speaker 7: Like, oh, I'm the first grandchild, so commerce I was like,

1754
01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:49,280
Speaker 7: you got a volunteer to go first.

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01:14:50,280 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 6: Boy.

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01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:53,599
Speaker 7: If you are the GM, what's the first position you're

1757
01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:54,679
Speaker 7: drafting this year?

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01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:54,920
Speaker 6: Oh?

1759
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:56,400
Speaker 4: Boy, it's a good one.

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01:14:57,760 --> 01:15:00,559
Speaker 6: Is Panix there? Yeah? Is available?

1761
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:03,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, you got the twenty fourth pick and the draft

1762
01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:04,879
Speaker 7: Picnics is available.

1763
01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:08,320
Speaker 20: I don't man by twenty four it's so hard to like,

1764
01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:11,040
Speaker 20: no idea, you just have no idea.

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01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:13,439
Speaker 6: Who's available? Like, I mean, that's where you.

1766
01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:15,040
Speaker 20: Try to pick a position you want to draft that

1767
01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:17,720
Speaker 20: far down the first round. That's where you get in

1768
01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:19,800
Speaker 20: trouble if you're like you got draft a defensive end

1769
01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:22,400
Speaker 20: or a defensive tackler or an offensive line. I mean,

1770
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:24,639
Speaker 20: I think in general, when you look at like where

1771
01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:27,400
Speaker 20: this team maybe has had some issues, sometimes I'd say,

1772
01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:29,000
Speaker 20: if you can just get better in the trenches on

1773
01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:32,120
Speaker 20: either side of the ball, that's always a great way

1774
01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:36,040
Speaker 20: to go. But again it's you can't reach for what

1775
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:38,759
Speaker 20: you see as a need and then end up making mistakes.

1776
01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:40,559
Speaker 8: Learned that last year. Take the best player.

1777
01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:43,160
Speaker 20: I mean, yeah, Spoon probably wasn't your biggest need. But

1778
01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:45,320
Speaker 20: Pete Carroll and Josh Shire looks at him like, this

1779
01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:48,080
Speaker 20: guy looks like a like you know, I mean compared

1780
01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:49,880
Speaker 20: to Fred Paul Maler the day he picked him, like

1781
01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:53,160
Speaker 20: generational type talent and he's played like it. And if

1782
01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:56,160
Speaker 20: you can get a guy who totally tilts the field,

1783
01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 20: maybe it's not your biggest need. That's more valuable than

1784
01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:02,240
Speaker 20: a guy who plays as that that particular year looks

1785
01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:04,040
Speaker 20: like a need and he's not as good of a player.

1786
01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:04,760
Speaker 6: Well, and that's it.

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01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:08,559
Speaker 5: You know, people are talking about taking Jalen Carter, those

1788
01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:11,479
Speaker 5: guys they don't want to play the interior tackles more

1789
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:14,719
Speaker 5: than fifty five percent of the place or sixty percent,

1790
01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:16,040
Speaker 5: and that's one of the reasons why they went and

1791
01:16:16,040 --> 01:16:16,880
Speaker 5: got Big Cat.

1792
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:19,080
Speaker 6: You get a guy like Spoon who's.

1793
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:21,360
Speaker 5: He's out there one hundred percent, and you know, he

1794
01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:24,599
Speaker 5: has such a huge effect. I think he's just been

1795
01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:28,720
Speaker 5: one of the great surprises, not only just with the Seahawks,

1796
01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:31,559
Speaker 5: but just the fact that he is such an average

1797
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:34,040
Speaker 5: sized guy and he's got so much energy in the

1798
01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:38,160
Speaker 5: way he plays, and he just seems very confident. It's

1799
01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:41,320
Speaker 5: hard to look at him and think that he's a rookie.

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Speaker 2: Ye.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, that was one of the that was the

1802
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Speaker 5: more strang I mean, as much as it puzzles me

1803
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:51,240
Speaker 5: that he is able to make that many plays, the

1804
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:55,280
Speaker 5: other thing is that that Schneider picked him just because Michael.

1805
01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:57,880
Speaker 5: You had Mike Jackson who was playing well, you had

1806
01:16:57,920 --> 01:16:59,040
Speaker 5: Reek wooland you.

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01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:02,200
Speaker 20: Had again Brian obvious like oh we need to get

1808
01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:04,360
Speaker 20: a corner. But again they just saw him as like,

1809
01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:06,720
Speaker 20: this guy looks like a guy who could be I mean,

1810
01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:11,720
Speaker 20: Pro Bowl caliber talent obviously from day one, and you

1811
01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:13,360
Speaker 20: think he can do that year after year after year.

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Speaker 6: And if you do that, that's a very valuable piece.

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Speaker 3: He is John Boyle reporter for Seahawks dot Com. Follow

1814
01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:21,840
Speaker 3: him on x dot com at John P. Boyle for

1815
01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:24,400
Speaker 3: the latest updates. John's got some stuff up on those

1816
01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:27,880
Speaker 3: three Pro bowlers as well as the latest from He'll

1817
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:29,719
Speaker 3: have the press conferences and injury reports.

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01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:31,960
Speaker 4: John joining us.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate it, all right, So thank you to John,

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Speaker 3: Thank you to Tyler Lockett, Kobe Parkinson for joining us. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: Ray Roberts and Steve Rabel, all our great guests today.

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Speaker 4: We always appreciate it. This is the huddle,