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Speaker 5: Now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola,
Speaker 5: Well the.
Speaker 4: Lady And this is regulous fall fight song.
Speaker 3: All those fs.
Speaker 4: My, Yes, this takes me back to thirty to twenty
Speaker 4: eight He didn't come back? Was born Rogers Staubach against
Speaker 4: these San Francisco forty nine ers in the playoffs on
Speaker 4: December twenty fourth, nineteen seventy one. Yes, it takes me
Speaker 4: back to all those great moments in Cowboys forty nine
Speaker 4: ers history.
Speaker 3: Good and bad.
Speaker 4: Mickey, can you think of any other moments in Cowboys
Speaker 4: forty nine ers history?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Micky Imscheek ninety two, ninety three.
Speaker 3: Yeah? Good?
Speaker 4: Ever see can you think he were the moments in
Speaker 4: Cowboys forty nine ers history?
Speaker 3: No good moments?
Speaker 4: See?
Speaker 1: How nice I am?
Speaker 3: Well? You weren't here?
Speaker 1: I wasn't.
Speaker 3: Yes, I was you were here? Bill was here?
Speaker 1: Were you pay?
Speaker 3: What were you? What were you working?
Speaker 4: I was actually in Lubbock, Texas.
Speaker 3: My first TV job yep, So did you talk bad
Speaker 3: about me?
Speaker 4: Actually, what did you call me out?
Speaker 3: He didn't know any better than he called me out.
Speaker 3: He probably called me out.
Speaker 4: I was like two months into the job. I was,
Speaker 4: I was, I was.
Speaker 3: You gotta throw somebody under the bus when you got young,
Speaker 3: I got to make.
Speaker 4: If you just had better vertical, they could have gotten.
Speaker 3: The white guy. I'll jump vertical.
Speaker 4: So here it is. It's the latest installment of the series.
Speaker 4: It goes back over a half century, the Cowboys and
Speaker 4: the Niners. I can't wait for Sunday Night football.
Speaker 3: Me neither.
Speaker 1: I'm ready.
Speaker 6: You know what, I was supposed to do an interview
Speaker 6: with somebody from San Francisco.
Speaker 3: I forgot all about that.
Speaker 1: The guy might be voting for a Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4: What are you doing?
Speaker 1: I thought yesterday?
Speaker 3: My bad, bro, my bad. Ah. There it is.
Speaker 1: Who's it with?
Speaker 6: Uh K, f F and ESPN. Okay, no, no, that's
Speaker 6: a survey. That's the survey.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: One thing I've noticed this week is the tours have
Speaker 4: seemed to get larger this week. Here at the start Frisco.
Speaker 1: If you know what, it was great advertising.
Speaker 3: Exactly what?
Speaker 1: So? They asked Jerry about it?
Speaker 4: I know that's why.
Speaker 1: And he said, I told him right all you want,
Speaker 1: because now everybody's gonna know we got tours.
Speaker 4: It seems to have worked.
Speaker 3: He can't help but falling uphill. It's just the way
Speaker 3: it is.
Speaker 4: I just just had a big tour that came by
Speaker 4: the s w b C podcast studio and they.
Speaker 1: Well, Everson and I were walking down the hallway behind him,
Speaker 1: and the guy guy said, move over to the side,
Speaker 1: got personnel.
Speaker 4: We were personnel, and they did announce. I did hear.
Speaker 4: I was in the hallway at the opposite end of
Speaker 4: the hallway. I did hear the tour guide. They that's
Speaker 4: former Cowboys great Everson Walls.
Speaker 1: And about me, former former.
Speaker 6: I'm a Cowboy great beat by the hear this Hi
Speaker 6: Eversince Sam Loveman produced the morning Roast for a ninety
Speaker 6: five point seven The Game here in Frisco. Love to
Speaker 6: talk to you on Friday morning, but that didn't happen.
Speaker 1: So the roast was what they do or what they
Speaker 1: drink morning coffee.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's it's that probably drink.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but a Cowboys weeks, they're going to roast everything.
Speaker 3: Walls, Yeah, man, I snuck by, didn't call anybody.
Speaker 1: And you know what, these people on the tours are
Speaker 1: aware of what took place, because they Everson was like, okay,
Speaker 1: hurry up, go, we're behind you get going. This lady
Speaker 1: just started laughing.
Speaker 4: They're aware, they're aware, they're aware of what.
Speaker 1: Of the story?
Speaker 3: Yeah, of the about the tour.
Speaker 6: Oh oh no, they everyone's so giddy now on my mind.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that they were welcome to the club. I told you.
Speaker 1: Eric tried talking to me Brad's brother, Eric Sham, Eric Sham,
Speaker 1: and he said something I don't know what he might.
Speaker 1: I said, hey, do not disturb my concentration. I got
Speaker 1: a podcast to do, and everybody busted out.
Speaker 6: I think everybody's giddy on these tours. Hey, let's see
Speaker 6: how we can screw things up. How much of an impact.
Speaker 3: Can we make?
Speaker 1: Can we be a distraction?
Speaker 4: That's right, I tell you. Like the way Jerry answered
Speaker 4: the questions all this morning, and I wonder if that'll
Speaker 4: get some run now that Jerry says he liked, likes
Speaker 4: the fact that their tours this is, this is more
Speaker 4: people will be participating in the tour, more money.
Speaker 6: And still there is no distraction. I'm sorry, it's all right.
Speaker 6: That's like really reaching for a story. I mean, we
Speaker 6: feel like that they reached all the time. With us,
Speaker 6: there's always these worst case scenarios.
Speaker 3: You know, with five games into the season, I think
Speaker 3: it was four games this season.
Speaker 6: Are the Cowboys gonna make the playoffs? Dude, we're four
Speaker 6: games into the season.
Speaker 3: Everybody, chill.
Speaker 6: Why are we the topic of conversation when you've got
Speaker 6: other teams out there that just having the same amount
Speaker 6: of problems that we have going on right now?
Speaker 4: How about how about the Rams last Saturday? The Rams
Speaker 4: were one in four last Saturday, and they beat the
Speaker 4: Raiders on Sunday, and now they beat last Saturday, the
Speaker 4: Vikings were unbeaten, and last night they get Pooka back,
Speaker 4: they get Cooper back, and now they've won two in
Speaker 4: a row. They're three and four and by the end
Speaker 4: of the weekend they'll beat They could be a half
Speaker 4: game out of first place in the UNFC West.
Speaker 6: And we're looking at the same thing here. But we
Speaker 6: need our players back. That's the difference. We need our
Speaker 6: players back because otherwise, whether we were game and a half.
Speaker 3: Out, yeah, that's nothing right, and not especially.
Speaker 1: Washington, the teams in front of them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and by the way the Commanders. Jaden Daniels was
Speaker 4: not seen on the practice field today the media portion
Speaker 4: of practice, and so it looks like Jayden Daniels may
Speaker 4: not be going for Washington on Sunday against Caleb Williams
Speaker 4: in Chicago, so they could be later.
Speaker 3: That would have been a good trial.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a reason that CBS has that in the
Speaker 4: three twenty five window on Sunday with Nancy Romo calling
Speaker 4: that game. But now it looks like it'll be Caleb
Speaker 4: Williams versus Marcus Mariota.
Speaker 1: And the Bears will have a week to get ready
Speaker 1: for Marcus Mariota. So whatever he did last week, now
Speaker 1: they know who's playing, or at least they got to
Speaker 1: think they and.
Speaker 4: The Eagles go to Cincinnati on Sunday, and there's a
Speaker 4: Cincinnati team that's trying to get its legs again and
Speaker 4: probably will. And so it is still so very early.
Speaker 1: Eleven games left.
Speaker 4: It's a whole college season basically.
Speaker 6: Yes, or at least a former old school I don't
Speaker 6: want to keep saying this, and we're like fourteen games,
Speaker 6: we got four games to make up. No, Yeah, so
Speaker 6: we don't want that, all right.
Speaker 4: So you heard Jerry this morning. You heard Dak talk
Speaker 4: yesterday in the locker room. What's on your mind, Mickey h.
Speaker 3: What are they talking about? Facts? Tell me what they're
Speaker 3: talking about.
Speaker 1: Well, Jerry kind of behaved himself.
Speaker 3: Oh that was no fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, didn't make me laugh, make me think a little nervous.
Speaker 4: But Dak was talking about getting married.
Speaker 1: Dak'st how he was going to propose, I heard, I
Speaker 1: haven't known.
Speaker 6: I'm sure they asked him about getting right. He could
Speaker 6: just bring up.
Speaker 4: Well, I was told.
Speaker 1: How did you spend your by?
Speaker 4: How many? How many questions were asked about the forty
Speaker 4: nine ers of Dak?
Speaker 1: I had to leave early.
Speaker 4: I was told, But not twelve minute, twelve minute session
Speaker 4: with the media, and not a question was asked about
Speaker 4: the forty nine ers because they ask about the tours.
Speaker 4: You got to asked about Jerry's comments on the radio,
Speaker 4: You got to ask about your engagement, and there weren't
Speaker 4: action with c D Yeah, that route running Aikman, So.
Speaker 3: How did that? How did that? You know?
Speaker 6: I guess I can bring it up. Troy was He
Speaker 6: sent out a post on x I think I'm pretty
Speaker 6: sure you guys saw it, and it talked about the
Speaker 6: an aptitude.
Speaker 3: About receive it.
Speaker 1: Well, he did it on the on the ticket, Okay,
Speaker 1: talk to me that that's what that's how it got out, okay.
Speaker 1: And he was saying that they aren't running good routes.
Speaker 1: They don't get off the line of scrimmage fast enough.
Speaker 6: As opposed to when he compared it to the Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 1: Right, and and that at the top of the stem
Speaker 1: or whatever, the cuts aren't accurate. And well, I don't
Speaker 1: know that I'm a route expert. I can tell when
Speaker 1: guys are open or not. You know a lot of
Speaker 1: times they're not open. Uh. McCarthy kind of knocked it down,
Speaker 1: uh initially, and then he talked more about the routes
Speaker 1: and how precise we have to run them, and and
Speaker 1: I think what you also have to consider. I think
Speaker 1: we talked about this one of the days you weren't here,
Speaker 1: the fact.
Speaker 4: That numerous days.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and uh.
Speaker 1: He came back and pointed out, or he didn't point out,
Speaker 1: I pointed out that you got a lot of young,
Speaker 1: inexperienced wide receivers out there. Now. He and Dak included
Speaker 1: c D in some of his route.
Speaker 3: Run Well, Uh, Troy.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean Troy, not Dak Troy, sorry and
Speaker 1: and so. But yeah, I mean there's a reason why
Speaker 1: the connections haven't been there if the routes aren't what
Speaker 1: you're expecting. Even you know, the interception in the end zone,
Speaker 1: his route wasn't precise. Now Dak got a little greedy
Speaker 1: instead of checking.
Speaker 3: Of course, of course he did. That was a bad throw.
Speaker 3: It was it was. It was up.
Speaker 6: Bad to say it was up. But it was up
Speaker 6: to your receiver to come and help them with you
Speaker 6: that right, I mean, that's what he's out there for.
Speaker 1: And he should have written wrote, written, run the route
Speaker 1: deeper into the corner of the end zone and not
Speaker 1: allow that guy to drop back.
Speaker 6: But even if he uh tried to run the route
Speaker 6: deep into the corner the end zone, I thought the
Speaker 6: ball was still flat.
Speaker 1: Well maybe he would have thrown it differently, Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: which allowed the corner to come off or the safety
Speaker 1: to come off.
Speaker 3: Now the corner came off.
Speaker 1: The corner. He was a corner, but he was covering
Speaker 1: the out route to Tolbert.
Speaker 3: It was it was a cover too. Yeah, it looked
Speaker 3: like a.
Speaker 1: And he dropped off and it's like you're not expecting
Speaker 1: he's you're when you when you probably look at more video,
Speaker 1: you're supposed to be covering that. What are you doing
Speaker 1: back there right now?
Speaker 3: He made a heads up play, heads up play.
Speaker 1: So so yeah, so it's a combination of things. But
Speaker 1: the quarterback is always gonna take responsibility. That's their job, right,
Speaker 1: That's why you get paid so much, no doubt, right. Uh.
Speaker 1: I told the story today on On on the Fan
Speaker 1: when they asked me similar about Dak always you know,
Speaker 1: being positive and going forward, I said, that's part of
Speaker 1: the job of the quarterback. The quarterbacks the face of
Speaker 1: the organ.
Speaker 3: I've never heard Troy or blame any of that on anything.
Speaker 1: The worst I've seen the worst I've seen, and I
Speaker 1: think it might have been this past game Mahomes somebody
Speaker 1: dropped a pass and he did an eye. They had
Speaker 1: a facial shot of him and he rolled his eyes
Speaker 1: like seriously.
Speaker 3: Well yeah, catch that all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't say it.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I have I have an opportunity to have
Speaker 6: the right to be a little upset about that.
Speaker 1: It was like maybe twenty eighteen and Dak was talking
Speaker 1: about how he needed to be better and his passes
Speaker 1: aren't here or there, and a lot of it was
Speaker 1: drop balls, tip balls, guys not catching the ball the
Speaker 1: way they should.
Speaker 3: And let get the inside position.
Speaker 1: Right, not crossing their face right. And so he was
Speaker 1: walking off after all that, and I kind of was
Speaker 1: looking at him. He goes, you're looking at I said,
Speaker 1: I'm looking for stabbings. Yes, exactly, That's what I told him.
Speaker 1: And he kind of smirked, and he goes, I'm the quarterback. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's what they got to do.
Speaker 6: Well, you know, I to me, it's I hope I'm
Speaker 6: not oversimplifying things.
Speaker 3: We needed CD in camp. Thank god Dak was in camp.
Speaker 6: What if he would have held out, Yeah, yeah, that
Speaker 6: would have been really crazy, and he could and.
Speaker 3: He could have.
Speaker 6: I don't know if their contract situation was the same.
Speaker 6: Did CD have a year left on his deal?
Speaker 1: CD was franchised, Okay, okay, Dak had one year old,
Speaker 1: but he was guaranteed right right, he's gonna make seventeen million.
Speaker 6: I think they needed they needed the work. They needed
Speaker 6: the work, and it is it is. You can see it.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 6: And so you say, Okay, CD's not here, I'm going
Speaker 6: to work on my connection with cook. You got Cooks
Speaker 6: here who was doing his job in training camp, but
Speaker 6: then he was overworked. Now you come into me. So
Speaker 6: he got two three games in. Now he's not here.
Speaker 6: And that was the guy that you were working with
Speaker 6: the entire UH training camp, trying to get a rapport with,
Speaker 6: and it was a good one until he's not there anymore.
Speaker 6: So now you're dealing with the receiver who's you got
Speaker 6: a great connection with last year to potential MVPs. He
Speaker 6: had a chance to come into camp, he didn't and
Speaker 6: now you're you're depending on the guy who was not
Speaker 6: there in camp.
Speaker 1: And number three is now number two, number two four
Speaker 1: and five.
Speaker 3: Number three four.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the number one wasn't in camp, so.
Speaker 6: You gotta I don't know if what's going on with
Speaker 6: he in the tight end, but just like with Troy
Speaker 6: Aikman and Novcheck, just like with Romo and Witting, you
Speaker 6: gotta go to Ferguson.
Speaker 3: You gotta go to Ferguson.
Speaker 4: Bro.
Speaker 6: They're not going to him enough. He's not he's not
Speaker 6: getting the looks that he should get. And I'm pretty
Speaker 6: sure he's running some good routes because I've never seen
Speaker 6: anything but good voutes from him, and he's a guy
Speaker 6: I would go for the fifty to fifty ball.
Speaker 3: I mean, even if he's.
Speaker 6: Covered, but he's got position, he may be still covered,
Speaker 6: but I still got to take a chance and give
Speaker 6: him an opportunity to show his athleticism. And that will
Speaker 6: take a big burden off of you, big burden.
Speaker 1: Off, especially after the way he runs with the ball
Speaker 1: after that.
Speaker 3: Thank you man.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's one of the matchups, not a matchup, but
Speaker 4: one of the intriguing.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 4: Two of the intriguing personalities in this game. Jake Ferguson
Speaker 4: for the Cowboys and the tight end for the forty
Speaker 4: nine ers, George Kittle.
Speaker 3: Now Kittle is he playing? They've got issues, just.
Speaker 1: Like Jerry Port says he limited practice so didn't playing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's playing. Did not practice limited practice?
Speaker 4: Guy, look at this guy.
Speaker 3: There's no doubt. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Uh. And and I think that from and not to
Speaker 1: get distracted.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: Two guys did not practice. Givens the backup defensive tackles
Speaker 1: from elite Collins and Juan Jennings did not practice. He
Speaker 1: didn't play last week, so I bet he's probably out.
Speaker 1: Jake Moody, the kicker, is probably out. They signed onto
Speaker 1: the practice squad. Carlson and is it?
Speaker 4: And Carlson kicked last week for them.
Speaker 1: Right, kicked a short field goal and then the onside
Speaker 1: kick and then messed up.
Speaker 4: On site Carlson kick and then in a position where
Speaker 4: you get to see him.
Speaker 3: Driving together on site.
Speaker 1: I really do you think he's been practicing? And then
Speaker 1: Deebo did not practice in yesterday. He was limited, but
Speaker 1: that's still I think a fifty to fifty thing. And
Speaker 1: to come back from I mean, how good could this
Speaker 1: conditioning be if you had water on.
Speaker 4: Your long experience as a doctor? Is that probably? So
Speaker 4: you're looking at.
Speaker 6: You're looking at a team that's just about as decimated
Speaker 6: as I was is and you know, I look at
Speaker 6: this us just having a good chance here.
Speaker 3: We got to we have to rely on the guys that.
Speaker 6: Show us the toughness. You know, We're going to have
Speaker 6: to rely on our running back. We're going to have
Speaker 6: to rely on Ferguson, Yeah, because we got to show
Speaker 6: them something. You know, Uh, the trenches with all these
Speaker 6: injuries and the specialism, the trenches are going to be
Speaker 6: extremely important.
Speaker 3: In this game.
Speaker 6: I don't think it's going to be one of those
Speaker 6: past happy games. They're running for what over one hundred
Speaker 6: yards a game. They're going to try to pound this
Speaker 6: ball down our throats until we can show somebody that
Speaker 6: we can consistently stop to run.
Speaker 3: They're having like one hundred and twenty yards on the ground.
Speaker 4: Even without McCaffrey, without mccaffe.
Speaker 1: Averaging nine many. Well, the guys the second leaning rusher
Speaker 1: in the leading Jordan Mason.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he didn't even play the second half one
Speaker 3: of the.
Speaker 1: Games because they were so far ahead.
Speaker 3: No, no hurt.
Speaker 4: And so then Girndo comes in and he.
Speaker 1: Goes right, he ran for ninety seven yards.
Speaker 4: On four cars and those are actually and is that
Speaker 4: Mitchell is out too, has been out, and so Mason
Speaker 4: was actually their third running back and Girndo's their fourth
Speaker 4: running back.
Speaker 3: So let's talk about the the Uh.
Speaker 4: Let's do that after the break. Okay, what are we
Speaker 4: going to talk about after.
Speaker 6: The talk about the effect of effectiveness of blocking without
Speaker 6: a star running back?
Speaker 4: Okay, I like it, and we'll do that when mix
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Speaker 4: By the way, I meant to I mentioned this to
Speaker 4: Mickey later in the day. I meant to celebrate your
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Speaker 3: What's that it was?
Speaker 4: It was October twenty fourth, twenty twenty four. It was
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Speaker 4: I thought that was that was gonna welcome you back.
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Speaker 4: It will never happen again, never until next month, twenty fourth.
Speaker 3: The next month, yeah, will we be here? We would
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Speaker 4: Well, maybe not if anyone gets a copy of this one.
Speaker 3: I didn't mean that I met Christmas Eve or something.
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Speaker 4: I've got one thing before you go to what you
Speaker 4: wanted to talk about, which was.
Speaker 6: The effectiveness of the guys in the tranches our offensive
Speaker 6: lineman and defensive lineman's course, but in this regard, like.
Speaker 4: I said, I got one thing. Before you get into that,
Speaker 4: you got one thing. I got one thing. George Kittle
Speaker 4: and Jake Ferguson, Yes, okay to uh, I think that
Speaker 4: when you look at these two guys, Jake Ferguson is
Speaker 4: a lot like George Kittle. He's just four years younger
Speaker 4: than him. And it's interesting George Kittle, his dad, Bruce Kittle,
Speaker 4: was an offensive tackle at Iowa, and then he's got
Speaker 4: a very interesting story. He was out of football and
Speaker 4: actually was a lawyer, and then he became a pastor.
Speaker 4: And then like twenty years later, in about two thousand
Speaker 4: and nine, twenty ten, his old college teammate roommate Bob Stooks,
Speaker 4: hired him as an assistant coach.
Speaker 1: At Oklahoma Oklahoma Oklahoma.
Speaker 4: But what's interesting with his relationship Jake Ferguson is Kittle.
Speaker 4: Kittle's dad worked at a major law firm in Madison, Wisconsin,
Speaker 4: and he was actually born in Madison, Wisconsin, across the
Speaker 4: street from Camp Randall Stadium on a college football Saturday,
Speaker 4: and they were looking out and he actually as a
Speaker 4: kid grew up dreaming Barry Alvarez. Jake Ferguson's grandfather was
Speaker 4: the head coach at University of Wisconsin. Then yes, and
Speaker 4: he actually is early on he yes, yes, and probably
Speaker 4: listening right now, shout out to Barry Alvarez. Great guy.
Speaker 4: But Kittle actually wanted to be a Wisconsin Badger and
Speaker 4: then they moved it back to Iowa. And then when
Speaker 4: Iowa offered his dad's alma mater, it was a no
Speaker 4: Brainery's going to Iowa. Whatever. But anyway, there's a connection
Speaker 4: there between the Fergusons and the Kittles in Madison, Wisconsin,
Speaker 4: and that's where Ferguson grew up in Madison, Wisconsin and
Speaker 4: went to high school there and stuff. But I just
Speaker 4: think that there, even their personalities are similar and there
Speaker 4: sort tattoo they can have an eccentric personality at times.
Speaker 4: And uh, and you know Kittle. In fact, Mickey, you
Speaker 4: were in there yesterday. Will McClay was doing a telestrator
Speaker 4: segment for the Coaches Show and he was one of
Speaker 4: the things he was talking about was Kittle and just
Speaker 4: how smart he is, and he says he's up their
Speaker 4: top five blocking tight ends in the league. And I
Speaker 4: think Ferguson has that potential. He's a smart guy. And
Speaker 4: on this Telestrator segment, Will was talking about just look
Speaker 4: at at Kittle in the run game, how important it is.
Speaker 4: It was a run to the left, and you could
Speaker 4: see his mind at work and just picking out who
Speaker 4: he need, who he needed to block.
Speaker 3: It was the most dangerous person right exactly.
Speaker 4: There was a corner route much like the interception that
Speaker 4: Dack threw to CD, which you saw that one, and
Speaker 4: the adjustment that Kittle made on his route undercutting the
Speaker 4: cornerback who was laying back just like uh in the
Speaker 4: on the Lamb game, and and he was, but he
Speaker 4: still was able to maneuver his route to get back
Speaker 4: to the pylon where he knew that the quarterback was
Speaker 4: thrown to the pylon and adjusted his body and made
Speaker 4: a catch for the touchdown.
Speaker 6: I saw that that was caliber play.
Speaker 1: He kept the dB behind him.
Speaker 4: Right and he basically out.
Speaker 3: Like a basketball basketball play.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and and those kind of cerebral plays. And Jake
Speaker 4: Ferguson's got that about him too. And so anyway, that's
Speaker 4: what I wanted to say about those.
Speaker 1: I thought I thought you were going to say his
Speaker 1: father was Ron Kittle.
Speaker 4: Yeah, White Sox baseball player, get what the white you
Speaker 4: can't get?
Speaker 6: You get Oklahoma, White Sox. You guys are drowning in
Speaker 6: the lord. Yeah, legendary stuff.
Speaker 4: No, but to get back to in the trenches. Now,
Speaker 4: let's get in the trench.
Speaker 3: What's important? Uh?
Speaker 4: And by the way, to set you up on this,
Speaker 4: what are the Cowboys? Uh? They're running the ball. They
Speaker 4: are thirty second in the league in rushing on offense.
Speaker 3: How many teams in the NFL.
Speaker 4: Last count, they were thirty two defending the run?
Speaker 3: Well, why did you just say lest eighth in the.
Speaker 4: League in defending the run?
Speaker 3: Damn that's bad.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and yet I have more confidence in our offensive
Speaker 6: line than our defensive line. For some strange reason, I
Speaker 6: think we could put together at least.
Speaker 1: The projected starters are there well.
Speaker 6: And plus you put together some games to where the
Speaker 6: running game wasn't overwhelming, but it was enough to keep
Speaker 6: the defense honest. Right, And we're not just talking about
Speaker 6: the Pittsburgh Steelers game. So you see San Francisco with
Speaker 6: that offensive line and with a what third and fourth
Speaker 6: team running back, and they opened the holes for anybody
Speaker 6: that's back there. I don't know much about Party in
Speaker 6: regards to his scrambles, but I would imagine they held
Speaker 6: the rush off enough to where he can make that
Speaker 6: decision because some people were being covered down the field.
Speaker 6: Their wide receivers right now are not getting open, just
Speaker 6: like our wide receivers are not getting open.
Speaker 1: Well, he's averaged I mean four point five of carry h.
Speaker 6: That's because everyone's playing man the man and he's taking off.
Speaker 3: And now there you go.
Speaker 4: There you go in seven games.
Speaker 3: So I don't want our quarter back doing that.
Speaker 6: I mean, we know why, but I do want our
Speaker 6: offensive line to understand that you don't need a great
Speaker 6: running back in the backfield to have a great running game.
Speaker 3: So we'll I'm looking forward.
Speaker 6: That's why I always look forward to Daldo doing well
Speaker 6: no matter what we have upfront. I look forward to
Speaker 6: Zeke coming in and making something happen, regardless of what
Speaker 6: we have upfront. But I'm not the one that needs
Speaker 6: to believe in them. They're the ones that need to
Speaker 6: believe in them. So to me, I think it's doable,
Speaker 6: but it's up to them to believe it.
Speaker 1: You know, he had against the Rams ten carries for
Speaker 1: forty one yards. Party so he's been pulling it down
Speaker 1: a little bit more than that.
Speaker 3: And I'm not worried about the distance. I'm worried about
Speaker 3: how many times it moves to change.
Speaker 1: Four for thirty three.
Speaker 3: That Arizona seventeen seventeen. That's that's huge because.
Speaker 4: I mean, you look at Jayden Daniels, you look at
Speaker 4: Jalen Hurts, Lamar Jackson. They they're tops in the league
Speaker 4: and rushing first downs by a quarterback, and they're in
Speaker 4: the twenty to twenty five range. So party's not that
Speaker 4: far behind. And to put it in perspective, he only
Speaker 4: had fifteen last year in seventeen games.
Speaker 6: I was going to say, we were not aware of
Speaker 6: this aspect of his to do it as much as
Speaker 6: he's doing it.
Speaker 3: That maybe he never wanted to run last year.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, And part of that maybe he doesn't have
Speaker 4: that McCaffrey to dump.
Speaker 3: Them all off to.
Speaker 4: He's having to do it himself at times. And the
Speaker 4: other thing about San Francisco's offensive line is they are healthy.
Speaker 4: They've been healthy. Uh. In fact, until Trent Williams got
Speaker 4: ejected from the game last week against Kansas City. It
Speaker 4: was late in the game. He missed nine plays I
Speaker 4: think I totaled up on their offensive line. They only
Speaker 4: had missed a handful of snaps with their starters on
Speaker 4: their offensive line. Something this season.
Speaker 3: I don't think he might getting kicked out of the game.
Speaker 3: He's kind of tired.
Speaker 1: He walked out of the previous one. What happened through
Speaker 1: a punch? He got got it flag. I want you
Speaker 1: to count how many times he's not on the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage. Okay, that's your job.
Speaker 4: This is a Vicky Keeve shot.
Speaker 1: And and the fact that he grinds his back toe
Speaker 1: into the ground and they never.
Speaker 3: Get it off fast. He gets off fast. What is
Speaker 3: that early? I'll say.
Speaker 4: So, you don't think he's the first ballot Hall of Famer.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sure he'll be. He's pretty good. But I
Speaker 1: think he gets away with stuff.
Speaker 6: Oh he's he's He reminds me of Eric Williams back
Speaker 6: in the day. Yeah, that's exactly reminds me of old
Speaker 6: Eric Williams.
Speaker 4: Not the one we know now, the one that it's
Speaker 4: one of the final thirty one. What they call it,
Speaker 4: what they call you semi finalists? Is that the semi
Speaker 4: finalist yet? Okay, your quarter quarter?
Speaker 3: I think because you go from I talked to him.
Speaker 1: I don't call it that, but Eric's only halfway there.
Speaker 1: He's one of fifty.
Speaker 4: Oh, that's right, because he's in the he's in the
Speaker 4: modern he's he's not an old timer.
Speaker 1: He does.
Speaker 4: Tarvey Martin guys.
Speaker 6: Okay, that's what he still dies. He's had frosty tips
Speaker 6: and all that.
Speaker 4: And by the way, I noticed yesterday that Ed Too
Speaker 4: Tall Jones is one of the new members of the
Speaker 4: being inducted into the Texas Sports Hall of Fame, along
Speaker 4: with the Richmond Webb out of Dallas Roosevelt and Miami
Speaker 4: Dolphin great late Cedric Benson as well.
Speaker 6: I think Lockwow's going into the Texas Black Sports Hall
Speaker 6: of Fame all right soon.
Speaker 3: I think that's going to be next year.
Speaker 4: My question is, how could have taken this long for
Speaker 4: Too Tall to get in the and Richmond web for
Speaker 4: that matter, but especially Tutah going back to the set
Speaker 4: for him going into the Texas Sports Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4: Shouldn't have he already be.
Speaker 3: All this Hall of Fame stuff is crazy.
Speaker 4: Like years ago, Everson, are you in the Texas Sports
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame?
Speaker 3: I am in Texas Sports and okay, good.
Speaker 6: And if I was gonna say, what's not fair, I'm
Speaker 6: going in for him. I mean I got got thank god,
Speaker 6: I had time, you know, to get in.
Speaker 3: But I don't know why they look at things the
Speaker 3: way they look.
Speaker 1: At the College Football Hall of Fame, right.
Speaker 3: You no, no, no, no? Is he a yeah?
Speaker 1: No black college Football Hall of Fame?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: So your picture is in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3: It is for that, yeah, because that's our home.
Speaker 6: They had to put me in there, because when they
Speaker 6: put all of us in there. But they have a
Speaker 6: nice little there's a display one. They just set one
Speaker 6: to me.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: And Ron Springs is on one of the slide shows.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 4: One of the things I think on the Texas Sports
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame. And I know this was going on
Speaker 4: when maybe when Emmett or a very well known player
Speaker 4: was going to be inducted. It was obvious he's going
Speaker 4: in his availability and whether they can make it two
Speaker 4: waygo on whatever date it was going to be. And
Speaker 4: so there can be a delay as far as that
Speaker 4: goes on players.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm sure.
Speaker 4: But over the course of three decades, I would think
Speaker 4: that two would.
Speaker 3: Have way down. Yeah, you get older knights.
Speaker 6: I think he's got gout, man, you know, And now
Speaker 6: it's like, hey man, I might not feel like going
Speaker 6: I got gout.
Speaker 3: Come on all.
Speaker 4: Right, we have our picks to click and who's gonna
Speaker 4: win on Sunday night and when we come back on mixshots.
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Speaker 4: A shot Sunday Night football this week Cowboys and the
Speaker 4: Niners doesn't get much better than.
Speaker 1: That they were counting on. They probably weren't counting on
Speaker 1: three and four and three and three.
Speaker 4: That matters it even more important, makes it more important.
Speaker 1: Well, when we had to fill both teams something before
Speaker 1: the season and they wanted to pick out like the
Speaker 1: game or the critical game, this is the one I
Speaker 1: picked because of the situation they're both in right now.
Speaker 1: Just that, with what the forty nine ers had done
Speaker 1: to the Cowboys, I figured this was going to be
Speaker 1: a good litmus test to see just where they're at,
Speaker 1: and you know, see if they can get over the
Speaker 1: hump against that team. Well, that team's not that team
Speaker 1: that we thought, and the Cowboys aren't either, So kind
Speaker 1: of a strange irony to the importance of this game,
Speaker 1: not for who had supremacy, but who may survived.
Speaker 3: Yes, there you go. That's a good one, right, that's
Speaker 3: a good one.
Speaker 1: And knowing what the Cowboys have coming up after this,
Speaker 1: that this is when it looked like five games in
Speaker 1: a row, well this is the only one against the
Speaker 1: team with losing.
Speaker 3: Record, wow, of all teams, of all teams.
Speaker 1: So yeah, pretty pretty important game.
Speaker 4: It is a very important game for both teams. And
Speaker 4: it's time for us to unless you get something else
Speaker 4: you want to share before we make our picks and
Speaker 4: our picks to click and all that good stuff. I
Speaker 4: know you've given it a lot of thought.
Speaker 6: I have, and I know that you guys have already
Speaker 6: chosen the person that I was going to use.
Speaker 4: How what makes you say that because.
Speaker 6: I haven't talked about him already. Oh, we both talked
Speaker 6: about them glowingly.
Speaker 3: Bill.
Speaker 1: Bill would have picked it.
Speaker 4: I've got my reason for picking it, But I'll let
Speaker 4: you go ahead and make that pick, and then I'll
Speaker 4: tell you why I'm picking him. All right, But I
Speaker 4: gotta go with a second, a secondary one.
Speaker 3: I was I thought you mean in the secondary Oh okay.
Speaker 4: Well you go, you go with a secondary one.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with my boy number thirteen.
Speaker 6: That's over shown right, That's who I'm gonna Yeah, he's
Speaker 6: gonna have a whole lot of opportunities to make some plays.
Speaker 4: Gonna get into this game. You think.
Speaker 6: Down Al also gonna be the guy who's gonna be
Speaker 6: playing downhill on the on the San Francisco forty nine ers.
Speaker 6: I'm hoping our defensive line comes through and and Mozzie
Speaker 6: Smith plays the way he's supposed to play. Be more
Speaker 6: consistent is what I'm looking for for Mosic. But it's
Speaker 6: gonna really help out over showness and see him filling
Speaker 6: those holes that he needs to feel. Like I said,
Speaker 6: going downhill, he's going to get i'd say a fumble recovery. Okay,
Speaker 6: that's just how strong this guy is.
Speaker 3: Going to be playing. He's going to be lights out.
Speaker 4: About a scooping score.
Speaker 6: You know, I think he would be the guy that
Speaker 6: probably caused the fumble. Okay, I don't think he'll be
Speaker 6: the one to return it, but I'm going to give
Speaker 6: him at least nine tackles in the game. Game forced
Speaker 6: fumble in a set. Cowboys win twenty to sixteen, twenty
Speaker 6: to sixteen, twenty to sixteen. All right, I like it.
Speaker 6: No right, Makey is looking over his notes.
Speaker 1: I had a something that I wanted to point out.
Speaker 3: No, man, it's too late for that.
Speaker 1: Bro. Can I can I double down on my guy?
Speaker 1: I want to put that microphone up where you picked
Speaker 1: a click in the Detroit game.
Speaker 4: Who I don't remember who that was, but.
Speaker 1: It was Cavante Turpin. Okay, because he was because he
Speaker 1: gave the most kickoff returns, because he had so many returns.
Speaker 3: Right, that's a damn say.
Speaker 1: But his his receiving numbers have gone up. He's had
Speaker 1: two consecutive four catch games. I think he can make
Speaker 1: a difference, and I think that the forty nine ers
Speaker 1: will be foolish enough to kick two and so watch
Speaker 1: out for Cavane.
Speaker 3: The natural gass natural grass.
Speaker 1: And since I can't, I've gone back and forth on
Speaker 1: this one. And as I told the guys on the
Speaker 1: on the the fan, I said, can I pick a tie?
Speaker 4: I can't decide.
Speaker 1: So I think I'm gonna go Cowboys twenty three, Niners
Speaker 1: twenty one.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna change mine, Okay, only because twenty to seven.
Speaker 4: I don't trusty to sixty seventeen seventy seven.
Speaker 3: I don't trust.
Speaker 6: Their kicker to make three to make three, So I'm
Speaker 6: going twenty.
Speaker 4: That's an extra point or something.
Speaker 3: Well, damn, he's that bad if he's actually I.
Speaker 4: Think he he missed one last week, I think, but.
Speaker 6: That's his first kick, his first extra point, okay in
Speaker 6: a long time.
Speaker 3: All right, I think he's practicing this week.
Speaker 4: It was a twenty eight eighteen loss to Kansas City,
Speaker 4: so something was funky about their score.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well they probably didn't trust him. Yeah, he missed
Speaker 3: an extra point. There you go.
Speaker 1: He was ozer for one.
Speaker 3: So maybe twenty six I'm going.
Speaker 6: I'm staying with seventeen. Let's say twenty to seventeen, Yes,
Speaker 6: twenty seventeen.
Speaker 4: All right, here's what the game is going to come
Speaker 4: down to. Okay, there's going to be fifty eight seconds left, okay,
Speaker 4: and the Cowboys are going to be faced with a
Speaker 4: third and three the forty nine yard live six yard line,
Speaker 4: the six yard line. Yeah, Cowboys are going.
Speaker 3: To be how'd you get down?
Speaker 4: Fifty eight seconds left? Forty nine? I think the Cowboys
Speaker 4: are going to be faced with a third and three
Speaker 4: at the Niners six yard line. Dak Prescott's going to
Speaker 4: be flushed out of the pocket to the right, to
Speaker 4: the right, to the right. Leonard Floyd is going to
Speaker 4: be in his face and off his back foot, He's
Speaker 4: going to throw a pass to the right corner of
Speaker 4: the end zone and soaring above the cornerback is going
Speaker 4: to be number eighty seven Jake Ferguson for the touchdown
Speaker 4: that wins the game twenty eight to twenty.
Speaker 3: Who's gonna scrow it?
Speaker 4: They don't have a twenty four on their team, so
Speaker 4: twenty four on their running back, right, So I guess
Speaker 4: it's gonna be okay, So it's twenty eight twenty seven. Wow.
Speaker 4: It will be forever known as the Cowboys catch Jake Ferguson,
Speaker 4: number eighty seven.
Speaker 6: The Cowboys catch you like it? That's not bad, So
Speaker 6: it does not bet he put he put a little button,
Speaker 6: a little bow wanted and everything.
Speaker 3: I like this.
Speaker 4: Everson Wall on the Cowboys charter will come back? What
Speaker 4: time you arrivee back? Probably four thirty and Everson Walls
Speaker 4: will be at the airport to greet Jake Berson as
Speaker 4: he comes.
Speaker 9: Off the planet to take a picture together.
Speaker 4: That's right right last.
Speaker 3: You like that? I like it.
Speaker 1: You only get that stuff on mix shot.
Speaker 3: No, you want to get that stuff, am billy.
Speaker 4: I can't wait for that, that moment on the arm.
Speaker 3: That would be hilarious.
Speaker 4: If we get down there, will you will you go
Speaker 4: to the to the arrival and greet Come on, you
Speaker 4: gotta do.
Speaker 6: It's gotta be a more important but but if it
Speaker 6: does regular you need to be there with a camera.
Speaker 4: We'll have a camera there. Well, I will wake up.
Speaker 1: I will be there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you, I know you.
Speaker 4: I'll be there even if it's with my iPhone week
Speaker 4: at you greeting week.
Speaker 6: If we get back there in January, okay, then we're good.
Speaker 6: If it's a January game, even if it's a regular season,
Speaker 6: I would be that.
Speaker 4: I'm not full of confidence this is gonna happen in January.
Speaker 1: And that's because you don't think both teams are going.
Speaker 4: To have Yeah, because the Niners are going to be
Speaker 4: what and five after this?
Speaker 9: That's right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so call it that.
Speaker 4: You saw those Rams played last night, So.
Speaker 3: I got that. They gave me hope. Gave me hope.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 4: I think that about does it?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got you did it?
Speaker 1: You good sports, good sports.
Speaker 4: Night in there. The uh one other thing. I love
Speaker 4: the tight ends in this game. And I love the
Speaker 4: fullbacks in this game. Kyle us.
Speaker 3: You know what I should have used how to.
Speaker 4: That's who I was going with. If you were taking Ferguson,
Speaker 4: I was going with Lipkey. And but it's it's a throwback.
Speaker 4: It's a throwback to it's gonna be the Johnson Moose
Speaker 4: Johnston versus Tom Rathman back in the nineties when these
Speaker 4: both these teams. I want to do.
Speaker 1: I need to get some rain. So it's a muddy field.
Speaker 6: Oh I think the field it's already it's I guess
Speaker 6: it's an okay field, but it's grass. Yeah, it's grass.
Speaker 6: But I think they wanted out a little bit, which
Speaker 6: is good.
Speaker 1: But at least it's not below see.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean say it was mushy. I just said
Speaker 6: one out mushy. Yeah, it was mushy back then.
Speaker 1: It's polite actually there.
Speaker 4: I mean I was thinking there's similar stories on both sides,
Speaker 4: even when you compare Dak and Rock Purty when you
Speaker 4: look at what they did at their in college. I
Speaker 4: mean Dak was the best quarterback that Mississippi State had.
Speaker 4: Rock Party at Iowa State, I mean he had a
Speaker 4: great college career at Iowa field ground. What Iowa State's
Speaker 4: doing now, a lot of that has to do with
Speaker 4: what Party was doing for four years.
Speaker 1: There variants running back.
Speaker 4: You got the running backs. You got Jordan Mason, who
Speaker 4: is undrafted guy out of Georgia Tech. And you got
Speaker 4: ric o'dowdell was undrafted out of South Carolina, and maybe.
Speaker 1: Bigger backs, and maybe some guy named Cook.
Speaker 4: You got two left tackles from Oklahoma.
Speaker 3: I'm home and Cook plays, man, I really do.
Speaker 4: You got to two left tackles from Oklahoma, Trent Williams
Speaker 4: and Tyler Goydon to future Hall.
Speaker 3: So what's up a guid man? Is he gonna play?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: He's back there. They're back where they all belong.
Speaker 4: So when's Dalvin Cook gonna get on the field.
Speaker 1: Got a feeling I don't know about get on the field,
Speaker 1: but I got a feeling active mm hm, which is.
Speaker 4: Step if he's got he could be active and not
Speaker 4: get on the field.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know.
Speaker 6: You know when you look at what they're doing with him,
Speaker 6: is he getting any runs in practice?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Well we don't get to see all that because I'm
Speaker 6: you know, I don't know. I'm hoping he is, because
Speaker 6: you just don't want.
Speaker 4: And what do you do with the game day roster if.
Speaker 1: Well, one running back has to be in active then.
Speaker 4: Right, Well Vaughn has been inactive here lately, even without
Speaker 4: Dalvin Cook coming up. So can you have Dalvin Cook
Speaker 4: and Zeke Elliott? Who are you doing anything on special teams?
Speaker 3: Three of them?
Speaker 6: Well, we'll have to be considered hate special teams.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, you probably can find another linebacker to be active.
Speaker 4: Well, the other thing, they got a roster spot with
Speaker 4: John Stevens, he'll be going on I R right, and
Speaker 4: so someone's going to be taking that roster spot when
Speaker 4: comes out tomorrow.
Speaker 1: It could just be empty and.
Speaker 4: They could, but I mean there is a there is
Speaker 4: a spot where they can ye put some somebody.
Speaker 1: But I mean I don't know if you're going to
Speaker 1: elevate somebody from the practice squad.
Speaker 4: But you have you have Deurn Bland, who is on
Speaker 4: I R right, who could take the John Stevens rosters
Speaker 4: right when he's whenever he's ready, but that may be
Speaker 4: a week away.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they did not put Parsons on I are right,
Speaker 1: So he's expected to come back then, so well maybe
Speaker 1: next week, but he's on the roster.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you've ruled him out. Oh, when the injury report
Speaker 4: comes out today, he's going to be listed as doubt doubtful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would think so they won't.
Speaker 4: Rule him as out because Macarthy said, Saturday is a
Speaker 4: big day.
Speaker 1: But think about it, you've been out three three weeks,
Speaker 1: four weeks month. This is a fourth at the end.
Speaker 1: He hadn't practice in pads, head and practice. But maybe
Speaker 1: once if it's Saturday and it's not a full blown
Speaker 1: competitive practice.
Speaker 3: Is IR four games or four weeks?
Speaker 1: Four games? But he's not on IR.
Speaker 6: I know, maybe he should have been. Well, I mean
Speaker 6: you're talking already four weeks.
Speaker 1: It's just one less guy you got to have in
Speaker 1: active Gus on Sunday.
Speaker 4: Okay, we're gonna go Oh, man, all right fifty one,
Speaker 4: yep it is. We're way past time, so we will
Speaker 4: be at the airport to greet the Cowboys when when
Speaker 4: Everson Walls greets Jake Ferguson, and we'll be here to
Speaker 4: talk about it at noon on Monday. Here one go, Cowboys.
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