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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where I'm ready to be hurt

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Speaker 1: by the Kyler Murray Minnesota Vikings. I'm Greg Rosenthal back

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Speaker 1: in my garage for the first time since Sunday night

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Speaker 1: when I talked to Nick Shook, and we got a

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Speaker 1: whole new league since then, and we got good timing

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Speaker 1: like we've had all week long. By getting Kyler Murray

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Speaker 1: to the Vikings into the show Nick Shook. Kyler decided

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Speaker 1: to not consider a backup choice or you know, playing

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Speaker 1: for the Rams or some backup place where he could

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Speaker 1: mess around for a year. He decided to take the

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Speaker 1: potential starting job that was right in front of him

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Speaker 1: and signed during his visit to Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: Are you as excited as I am?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think I'm more of a hater because yesterday

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Speaker 3: I was it. Yesterday it was to everything's blurring together.

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Speaker 3: Kyler was officially released by the Cardinals. That was yesterday,

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Speaker 3: and immediately the reports came out that yes, the Vikings

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Speaker 3: are the favorites to land in, but he is considering

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Speaker 3: other teams. Twenty four hours later, he is a Viking.

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Speaker 3: The team announced it right after it was reported. At

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Speaker 3: what point did you sleep and at what point did

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Speaker 3: you consider the other teams. Why did we include that

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Speaker 3: in there? We knew you were going to Minnesota. Of

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Speaker 3: course you're going to go there and compete for the

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Speaker 3: starting job and take it from JJ McCarthy and revive

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Speaker 3: your career under Kevin O'Connell. I love the fit, But

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Speaker 3: why do we do these? But the semantics of it all,

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Speaker 3: why do we do well?

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Speaker 1: Because other teams probably were interested. Jordan, you know, mentioned

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Speaker 1: the rams as a possibility, and then I saw that

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Speaker 2: Neither do I really, Although I haven't that, I think.

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Speaker 1: To be looking up into the eyes of Kevin O'Connell

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Speaker 1: and Kyler Murray definitely is that. And listening to KOC

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Speaker 1: say whatever magical words he says to quarterbacks that just

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Speaker 1: makes them all fall in love with him and want to.

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Speaker 2: Be marriaged by him.

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Speaker 1: Defeat right, you don't know what it's like to be

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Speaker 1: there in person talking to that man. And then once

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Speaker 1: that happens, it's over. And that's when he agreed, So

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Speaker 1: you know, your whatever plans you had before that, it's over.

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Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connell closes the deal.

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Speaker 3: So you're saying he's charismatic, some might even say seductive

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Speaker 3: on a football side.

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Speaker 1: Interesting, I just mean he he has a way because

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Speaker 1: he is that quarterback who didn't have the career that

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Speaker 1: he wanted despite being you know, a third round draft

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Speaker 1: I think of making quarterbacks feel like he's going to

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Speaker 1: maximize their skills. And so let's get into the fit

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Speaker 1: because I'm going to operate like he's the starting quarterback.

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Speaker 1: We'll be talking about it plenty. I'm sure between now

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Speaker 1: and September. The Vikings aren't just going to announce him

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Speaker 1: as the starting quarterback. He is only making one point

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Speaker 1: three million dollars, that's the minimum, because the Cardinals are

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Speaker 1: paying him thirty six million dollars, you know, to not

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Speaker 1: play for them, and so because of the offset language,

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Speaker 1: you know, he just gets this small amount from Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: So usually I look to the money first, and the

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Speaker 1: money doesn't really tell us much. I just looked to

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Speaker 1: the experience that Kyler Murray has and the fact that

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Speaker 1: they gave him a no tag agreement on this contract,

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Speaker 1: which is really interesting and I think a concession to him,

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Speaker 1: And I just think in any fair competition he is

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Speaker 1: likely to win the job. Now there has been some

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Speaker 1: thought that maybe it's like not the best fit in

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Speaker 1: the world. JJ McCarthy not great throwing over to the

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Speaker 1: middle of the field. What's been the biggest criticism of

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray in his career, not thrown over the middle

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Speaker 1: of the field. What do you think about how Kyler

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Speaker 1: fits with this roster and with what Kevin O'Connell wants

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Speaker 3: I think that we get a more evolved product at quarterback,

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Speaker 3: but not necessarily that much different from McCarthy because of

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Speaker 3: what you just said. Kyler, who has proven that he

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Speaker 3: has the talent to succeed in the NFL but has

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Speaker 3: a better passer, a more natural passer, a more accurate

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Speaker 3: coach is talking about again marrying your eyes with your

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Speaker 3: and it's kind of chaotic in the pocket for JJ

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Speaker 3: at times, just because his form is not his fundamentals

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Speaker 3: It's just a matter of does he not try to

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Speaker 3: can he be put into a system that gives him

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Speaker 3: more advantageous opportunities and then he doesn't have to be

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Speaker 3: that guy because we saw glimpses of this. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I still think back a couple of years ago when

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Speaker 3: they obliterated the Rams and Kyler's running all over the

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Speaker 3: a pretzel. That's the potential of him. And I think

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Speaker 3: if you pair him with the right coach, and I

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Speaker 3: think Kevin O'Connell is. Oh and by the way, Justin

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Speaker 3: Hockinson took a pay cut to come back, Like this

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Speaker 3: number of ways to be successful, that this can be

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Speaker 3: the piece that then brings you back up to contender

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Speaker 3: stef which is what they certainly weren't with their many

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Speaker 1: I just think about how they won fourteen games with

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Speaker 1: good quarterback play in twenty twenty four Sam Darnold. And

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Speaker 1: then I think about how they won nine games last

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Speaker 1: year with really poor quarterback play. And I don't think

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Speaker 1: it's crazy for Vikings fans and people like myself that

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Speaker 1: just want to watch good football to think, yeah, they're

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Speaker 1: a contender. They're a contender in the NFC North, because

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Speaker 1: we've already seen this team. And I know they had

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Speaker 1: to cut Jonathan Allen and Hargrave and Harrison Smith might

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Speaker 1: be retiring. It's not everything's not the same on defense.

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Speaker 1: It's hard to keep that group together. But we've seen

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Speaker 1: good quarterback play. This team is going to be a

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Speaker 1: playoff team. And the funny thing is how Kyler Murray

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Speaker 1: of got to remember what Kyler Murray's done in his career.

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Speaker 1: He was the offensive Rookie of the Year his first year,

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Speaker 1: you know, you throwing for almost four thousand yards as

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Speaker 2: They were. They were good. Actually his third year.

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Speaker 1: He was nine and five when they were the starter,

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Speaker 1: and he's running for eight hundred, seven hundred yards, he's

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Speaker 1: it actually doesn't look very inconsistent. What is inconsistent, to

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Speaker 2: He can look like an MVP.

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Speaker 1: Level player for a while and he's playing on so

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Speaker 1: and you hate that, not knowing what you're getting WEAKD

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Speaker 1: And I think guys like Sean McVay and Kevin will

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Speaker 1: that's not in the bucket of the JJ mccarthyes right now,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I just think about the the hero plays,

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Speaker 3: in there. This is It's funny you said he gets

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Speaker 3: he gets lumped in with Tua because they both were

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Speaker 3: Those are not the same quarterbacks by any stretch of

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Speaker 3: the imagination. You would not be fired up if you

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Speaker 3: getting to a tongue by load to compete with JJ McCarthy.

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Speaker 3: You'd be accepting that, oh god, well, we're gonna get

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Speaker 3: averageor worse unless JJ takes a big step. This is

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Speaker 3: better than that by many strides. But I also think

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Speaker 3: consistent streaky, like you said, of a quarterback throughout his career.

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Speaker 3: I believe that situation matters a lot. Let's go into

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Speaker 3: the last two seasons with Kyler. This past season that

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Speaker 3: he basically needed to prove that he could still be

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Speaker 3: gonna run more or I'm gonna run less. That's been

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Speaker 3: like the annual thing is I'm going to do more

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Speaker 3: of this or more of that and change my play style.

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Speaker 3: What if you could just be yourself in a system

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Speaker 3: I believe that he was in a bad situation in

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Speaker 3: and that if you put him in the right situation,

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Speaker 3: he will be much more, much closer to the number

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Speaker 3: Arizona than what he's been over the last few years.

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Speaker 3: But I don't think the streakiness will ever go away.

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Speaker 3: I think that's just part of his game, kind of

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Speaker 2: I think that's fair, And I think the rushing question

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Speaker 2: is a big one. Did not run that much last year.

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Speaker 1: Relatively actually the last few years has been pretty consistent

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Speaker 1: as he gets older twenty nine years old, obviously not

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Speaker 1: job avoiding hits, but probably he's going to run less

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Speaker 1: and how does he transition as he gets older. But

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Speaker 1: I just think of the talent and the situation around him.

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Speaker 1: Here's the situation if the defense plays to its potential

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Speaker 1: and they do have some questions. I like the James

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Speaker 1: that on the show. They have some questions, But if

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Speaker 1: You have Justin Jefferson at receiver, you have Jordan Addison

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Speaker 1: lines the Vikings have had over the last few years.

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Speaker 1: Brian O'Neil and Christian Darisa. You hope you get healthier

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Speaker 1: Hockinson is back, Aaron Jones' back. Like, it's not all perfect.

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Speaker 1: I need Kevin O'Connell to actually have a good running

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Speaker 1: game instead of just talking about it, which has been

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Speaker 1: the case. But overall, there's a lot of support where

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Speaker 1: if he's just average I'm into it. I think it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a fun team, and I just think about

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Speaker 1: what's going to be watchable. The Vikings are going to

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Speaker 1: be in primetime, you know they are, So give me

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Speaker 1: some Kyler versus Caleb, Kyler versus Jordan Love or the Lions. Like,

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Speaker 2: I'm a raider. I'm back. Run that. You know what.

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Speaker 1: That quote. Believe nothing you hear in half of what

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Speaker 1: Right, and he could kind of proved to the rest

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Speaker 1: I can totally I could just totally see it all.

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Speaker 3: I could envision the buck God that's Crosby's music and

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Speaker 4: Know his offensive lineman. Uh, you know that's that's gotta

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about you mentioned all the players that are

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Speaker 5: Having him and Quitty, the ball probably gonna come out fast,

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Speaker 1: He wasn't probably expecting to play with with Max Crosey,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, reuniting to Georgia guys that were stars for the

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Speaker 3: and dem franchise boys are blowing up the top.

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Speaker 2: Four paying it to this old man.

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Speaker 3: What's the massively oversized T shirt that was yeah, early

438
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Speaker 3: two thousands.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's it's back.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, I think it's coming from from Japan and Asia

441
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Speaker 1: because because that's been that's been the style for years.

442
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Speaker 1: And uh, the youngins, we're bringing it all back. Like

443
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Speaker 1: the huge baggy pants, it's all coming back to the

444
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Speaker 1: late nineties, early two thousands.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

446
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Speaker 1: A big baggy pant doesn't always look the best on

447
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Speaker 1: like a short guy, but I'll do it anyways.

448
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Speaker 3: It doesn't look good on me either, better than better.

449
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Speaker 2: Than like a better than type jeans.

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Speaker 1: All right, Let's go through some of the moves that

451
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Speaker 1: happened since we last taped. And they're smaller nature, but

452
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Speaker 1: I find a lot of them really interesting. Keaton Mitchell,

453
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Speaker 1: the former Ravens running back who was not tendered by Baltimore,

454
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Speaker 1: gets five million dollars guaranteed to go to the Chargers.

455
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Speaker 1: That that amount of money actually opened my eyes. I

456
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Speaker 1: mean that's more than some other running backs out there

457
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Speaker 1: in this market and showed that there was real competition

458
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Speaker 1: for Keaton Mitchell and an interesting piece there to kind

459
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Speaker 1: of add to a young backfield, you know, behind their

460
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Speaker 1: first round pick from a year ago.

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Speaker 3: It also fills out a backfield with a bunch of

462
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Speaker 3: different running backs of like various archetypes, like you have

463
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Speaker 3: Hampton who's explosive but also big. You got Kamani Vidal

464
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Speaker 3: who's a bowling ball, you know, powerback style, and then

465
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Speaker 3: you've got Mitchell, who's a home run hitting, you know, speedster,

466
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Speaker 3: a guy that you know in Baltimore at his best

467
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Speaker 3: was capable of hitting home runs but never saw a

468
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Speaker 3: ton of carries. The most he saw was actually this

469
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Speaker 3: past season at fifty nine attempts for three and forty

470
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Speaker 3: one yards in a touchdown. It was curious when they

471
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Speaker 3: didn't tender him. But the Ravens feel like they're making

472
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Speaker 3: a shift in how they're approaching a lot of their roster.

473
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Speaker 3: So for him to get to the open market. It's

474
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Speaker 3: the perfect fit for the Chargers to go at other

475
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Speaker 3: running back because we know that the Chargers want to

476
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Speaker 3: run the football so much that they went out and

477
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Speaker 3: quickly added Charlie Coohlar as a high quality blocking tight

478
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Speaker 3: end as well. So it's clear what they want to do.

479
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Speaker 3: We've already known this from the last couple of years,

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Speaker 3: and they're just investing further in it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when I talked about the Chargers on our previous show,

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Speaker 1: I kind of forgot to mention that they signed Cole Strange,

483
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Speaker 1: gave gave him a bunch of money, the former Dolphin.

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Speaker 1: So it's interesting that that Mike McDaniel. You can see

485
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Speaker 1: his influence. It really looks all about the running game,

486
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Speaker 1: and he loves speed when it comes to the running game.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about the Bengals, who made a couple moves

488
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Speaker 1: on Thursday. They signed Jonathan Allen, the longtime Washington player

489
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Speaker 1: who spent last year in Minnesota, two years, twenty eight

490
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Speaker 1: million dollars, plenty of guaranteed money.

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Speaker 2: They also extend.

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Speaker 1: Their tackle Orlando Brown, their left tackle there through twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty eight, so he gets a two year extension. He

494
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Speaker 1: was not a free agent but they extend him out.

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Speaker 1: He represented himself, by the way, you know, all the

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Speaker 1: agents who get the credit on those tweets. How about

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Speaker 1: Orlando Brown negotiating contract by himself. A little surprised to

498
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Speaker 1: me they're spending this much money on Jonathan Allen. Both

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Allen and Javon Hargrave, who are in their thirties

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Speaker 1: and had one disappointing season in Minnesota, each got released

501
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Speaker 1: by the Vikings kind of in cap moves, but they

502
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Speaker 1: also didn't do much there and they both got raises.

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Speaker 1: Big names I guess still get paid on the open market.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 3: I think that they have entered the rare era of official

506
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Speaker 3: bag getters, especially Hargrave, but Allan now too. I mean,

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Speaker 3: he had a three year, fifty one million dollar deal

508
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Speaker 3: with the Vikings that was terminated in twenty twenty after

509
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Speaker 3: the twenty twenty five seasons, so after one year. But

510
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Speaker 3: he was a four year, seventy two million dollar guy

511
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Speaker 3: in Washington. That was his second contract sign and now

512
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Speaker 3: he's getting another nice little bag. So he's gonna end

513
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Speaker 3: up with a pretty high career earnings total.

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Speaker 1: When the Bengals, I gave him some pop on day

515
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Speaker 1: one of free agency because I really liked the two

516
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Speaker 1: moves that they made and then and that was Brian

517
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Speaker 1: Cook the safety and Boy Mafe, and then they didn't

518
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Speaker 1: literally didn't make any other moves until this one.

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Speaker 2: And this is just like a lot of bunny when

520
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Speaker 2: they have so many.

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Speaker 1: Needs, I would have preferred to see them spread this

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Speaker 1: out a little bit. And I know that they'll sign

523
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Speaker 1: some players throughout free agency, but they're still very old

524
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Speaker 1: school where they frontload everything because they're trying to get

525
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Speaker 1: to a salary cap floor and they desperately need linebacker help.

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Speaker 1: I think they need to take more shots on their

527
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Speaker 1: defensive line instead of putting it all in like an

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Speaker 1: aging defensive tackle.

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Speaker 2: They need help in the secondary.

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Speaker 1: I think they need a third receiver, they could use

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Speaker 1: some interior offensive line depth.

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Speaker 2: It's just a lot, so we'll see.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to grade them, you know, right now,

534
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Speaker 1: but this was a curious contract to me. I did

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Speaker 1: see a report, by the way, by Jordan Schultz. I

536
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Speaker 1: haven't seen it out here elsewhere that Cater Kohu is

537
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Speaker 1: going to the Chiefs, a guy I wanted to make

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Speaker 1: sure to get into my top one hundred because of

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Speaker 1: all the re signings. He ended up around eighty in

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Speaker 1: the seventies. Good slot cornerback, and I kind of liked

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Speaker 1: that mix with him and Steve Spagnola. The Chiefs have

542
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Speaker 1: not done a lot this offseason, but the move and

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Speaker 1: they have a lot of holes, so I'm still concerned,

544
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Speaker 1: but the moves that they have made I have enjoyed

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Speaker 1: between this and Kenneth Walker, especially.

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Speaker 3: Yeah co Who. I was actually trying to pair him

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Speaker 3: while working on that piece beforehand, and then was running

548
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Speaker 3: through some depth charts and saw him up here on

549
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Speaker 3: the chief step chart and I was like, wait what,

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Speaker 3: And that's what led me to discover the report that

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Speaker 3: you just mentioned. He was the guy that a lot

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Speaker 3: of teams, you know, a lot of people saw as

553
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Speaker 3: like a pretty like a really good and surprising good

554
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Speaker 3: cornerback a couple of years ago, and then he missed

555
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Speaker 3: his WHO last season due to injury. It's almost like

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Speaker 3: it just fell off the table and out of the

557
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Speaker 3: consciousness because he didn't play this year. So a savvy

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Speaker 3: pick up for them for a Chiefs team that has

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Speaker 3: lost a good amount of players in the secondary of

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Speaker 3: this offseason. I was immediately pairing them with the best

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Speaker 3: available defensive backs, so to see him go there, it

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Speaker 3: made a lot of sense. Good pick up for them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I liked it a lot.

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Speaker 1: I also like the Commander's pickup of Rashad White, who's

565
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Speaker 1: a really good pass protecting back, a really good receiver.

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Speaker 1: He played receiver in college. He's a fine running back.

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Speaker 1: He's not incredibly explosive. He's almost like the third down

568
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Speaker 1: version of like I who am I trying to compare it,

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Speaker 1: maybe like a Kyron Williams or even a James White,

570
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Speaker 1: like you're not going to get like the long speed.

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Speaker 2: But he's not similar to Kirien Williams.

572
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Speaker 1: But I mean like the third down version where you're

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Speaker 1: not going to get like the plus twenty five plays.

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Speaker 1: But I really like him a lot, and it continues

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Speaker 1: a theme that I've enjoyed this Commando's off season. Between

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Speaker 1: the kind of the mid tier signings, there's been some

577
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Speaker 1: signings I don't really love, a Da FAOI costs a

578
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Speaker 1: lot of money, Charles Amena who didn't make sense. But

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Speaker 1: they're doing what I'm asking for, which is just make

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Speaker 1: a lot of moves in volume, and especially younger players

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Speaker 1: and Rashad White I think fits that need He'll probably

582
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Speaker 1: be their backup. I don't know who their starter is

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Speaker 1: going to be. Maybe it's Jeremiah Love in Commanders fans

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Speaker 1: dreams if he fell to numbers, But I think Rashad

585
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Speaker 1: White will be a nice number two. And the Commandos

586
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Speaker 1: fans are thirsty. You know how I know that shook

587
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Speaker 1: because I put out a video that I like their

588
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Speaker 1: offseason moves and it's gone crazy. And that's how, you know,

589
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Speaker 1: like the fan base is just ready just say something

590
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Speaker 1: nice about us, and we got we got, like, you know,

591
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Speaker 1: thousands of likes on.

592
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Speaker 3: That they'd like in the desert. They just want a

593
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Speaker 3: drop of water to keep them alive and keep them

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Speaker 3: hopeful going into the next year. And you know what,

595
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Speaker 3: they could be a team that makes a big jump

596
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Speaker 3: for one year the next because it was so disappointed

597
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Speaker 3: last year. They also didn't have Jane Daniels healthy. They

598
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Speaker 3: still have holes to fill, though, and they still have

599
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Speaker 3: the most cap space in the NFL at sixty six

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Speaker 3: million according to Over the Cap. As we record this show,

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm looking at you know, slot receiver, one

602
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Speaker 3: of the offensive line spots. What are you doing with

603
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Speaker 3: Zach Ertz? I know you added Chigo kon Quo, but

604
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Speaker 3: zach Ertz was a surprisingly big part of your offense

605
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Speaker 3: over the last year and a half two years, you

606
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Speaker 3: added what five different starters defensively, but you still have

607
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Speaker 3: depth guys that are on their way out. What are

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Speaker 3: you going to do with this larger picture? But I

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Speaker 3: do agree with a lot of these additions. You overpay

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Speaker 3: for oay based on the seven and a half sacks

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Speaker 3: you got with the Chargers. Whatever you add Chase On,

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Speaker 3: who I think was a savvy pickup on a one

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Speaker 3: year deal, because then you're like, all right, look, he's

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Speaker 3: coming off of his career year. Can he do it again?

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Speaker 3: For us? It's low risk leoshanal guy who's proven in

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Speaker 3: Kansas City, Nick Cross, proven from Indianapolis. You just kind

617
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Speaker 3: of keep going step by step and filling these little

618
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Speaker 3: bit holes. But because they have so much that they

619
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Speaker 3: still need to address, it's good to have the cap

620
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Speaker 3: space because, like you said, you don't know if White

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Speaker 3: will be the starter. You got Bill Krosky Merritt back there.

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Speaker 3: You got a bunch of other guys that are all

623
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Speaker 3: free agents as well, so you still need to add

624
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Speaker 3: to the groups on both sides of the ball, but

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Speaker 3: it's good work on their part.

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Speaker 1: I think they've they're now entering the draft without like

627
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Speaker 1: screaming huge needs where they just feel totally desperate. Their

628
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Speaker 1: defense looks so much better on paper than it did

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Speaker 1: a week ago.

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Speaker 2: I think they can be competitive again right away.

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Speaker 1: And these are mostly guys in their twenties that can

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Speaker 1: be part of their team for two to three.

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Speaker 2: Years instead of just like a one year deal.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of redone deals, Landon Dickerson did a restructured contract

635
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Speaker 1: the guard for the Eagles. It's a two year deal

636
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Speaker 1: where he takes less money. Only mentioning on this on

637
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Speaker 1: the show because they're just up to stuff. Dallas Goddard

638
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: still hanging out there. They might redo his deal. They're

639
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Speaker 1: trying to lower their numbers. It's why I have a

640
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 1: show on the books for tomorrow, Shook is because I

641
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Speaker 1: just feel like something's gonna pop here. There's still a

642
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: few big moves to happen, and I think the Eagles

643
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Speaker 1: are one of the teams that could possibly do it.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's a Jonathan Garnard trade and they're trying to

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Speaker 1: clear spots for it.

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Speaker 2: We'll see.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Arizona, where I just wanted to circle

648
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: back on these stories that went out, including from NFL

649
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Speaker 1: Networks Tom Beeli Serro that Jacoby Brissett was gonna be

650
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Speaker 1: the clear QB one and that Gardner Minshe's gonna be

651
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Speaker 1: the clear QB two. And there was multiple reports about this,

652
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Speaker 1: and then Jacoby Brissett was contacted or maybe it was

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Speaker 1: his agent, and he was like, well, that's news to me.

654
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Speaker 2: No one's talked to me about that.

655
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Speaker 1: Meanwhile, they also in their media room took took down

656
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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray's picture and put up a Jacoby Brissett picture. Yeah,

657
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Speaker 1: and it wasn't the media that did that, it was

658
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Speaker 1: the team. And it's a big photo of him getting

659
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Speaker 1: interviewed by Laura Rutlands after Monday Night football. And it

660
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Speaker 1: just immediately reminds me of the whole Kyler Murray story too,

661
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Speaker 1: where they're like, yeah, we're talking to Kyler all the time,

662
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Speaker 1: and Kyler's like, nobody's stuck to me. And now what's

663
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Speaker 1: happening again with Jacot, Like what is happening in Arizona?

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Speaker 3: I just want to do this in the State Farness Stadium,

665
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Speaker 3: the House of Lies. I guess like they're just putting

666
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Speaker 3: small FIBs out there trying to look like they got

667
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Speaker 3: everything under control when they maybe aren't as under control

668
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Speaker 3: as they like us to believe. I mean, look, when

669
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Speaker 3: you go into a new season, you got Jacoby Brissette

670
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Speaker 3: as much as we love Jake Briskett, and you have

671
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Speaker 3: Gardner Minshew as your other option. Neither are overly inspiring.

672
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Speaker 3: But Jacoby did do a better job of his offense

673
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Speaker 3: last season than Kyler did. Obviously, it's a whole new

674
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Speaker 3: regime in terms of coaching staff. How do they fit

675
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Speaker 3: that in? Is this the bridge to whatever lies ahead?

676
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Speaker 3: Do you draft the quarterback as well as the developmental guy?

677
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Speaker 3: None of it is awe inspiring or overly optimistic, but

678
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Speaker 3: at least you have options. I guess I'll leave it

679
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Speaker 3: at that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, The keyword that you just said might have been lies.

681
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Speaker 1: I just feel like there's a why are all these lies?

682
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Speaker 1: Why are you? And if you're not lying about Jacobe

683
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Speaker 1: being QB one, why haven't you.

684
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Speaker 2: Talked to him about it? That that is some bad communication.

685
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Speaker 3: It's one of those things where they're like internally they're like,

686
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Speaker 3: all right, he's QB one, and then they're just like

687
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Speaker 3: setting it. We'll tell him eventually, but right now we

688
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Speaker 3: have more work to do.

689
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Speaker 1: My theory is that they're still open to trading him

690
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Speaker 1: and they're saying that he's QB one to like make.

691
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Speaker 2: It seem like pushing the value up, you know, leverage.

692
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Speaker 1: You know, they're in the middle of talking to him,

693
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Speaker 1: and maybe it's with the Jets or I don't know

694
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Speaker 1: who it would be, but just it's just been this

695
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Speaker 1: has been happening too much in Arizona over the last

696
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Speaker 1: few years. I did, like Isaac Sayamalu, who was the

697
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Speaker 1: free agent guard they signed good, good, solid pickup, and

698
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Speaker 1: he did his press conference and they asked him, well,

699
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Speaker 1: why did you choose to come to Arizona And he

700
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Speaker 1: started the answer by just going, well, the money, the

701
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Speaker 1: money was good.

702
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's like finally, thank you.

703
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: And then he like knew how that would sound, and

704
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Speaker 1: he went on to like, I want to win football

705
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: game that he went on to all that stuff.

706
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Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, they offered me the most money.

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Speaker 3: That's so what I did like a couple of free

708
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 3: agent pairings before free agency started for NFL dot Com,

709
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Speaker 3: and one of them was Siamalo and it was I

710
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 3: paired him with the Browns, and I just thought, if

711
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Speaker 3: any if he's gonna cash in one more time, it's

712
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Speaker 3: gonna be with a bad team that needs offensive line help.

713
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Speaker 3: And I'm thinking, like Brown's, Cardinals like that, that all

714
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 3: fits the same mold. So good on him for being honest.

715
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Speaker 3: And you're like, hey, look, I think he's thirty two

716
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 3: years old. I'm trying to get my bag. I got

717
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 3: my bag. I'm happy about it. Let's go play football, right.

718
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Speaker 1: It really is going to be his last contract, And

719
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 1: you know, the Browns did hand out those contracts for

720
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Speaker 1: a couple guys, Elton Jenkins, who I think was like

721
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Speaker 1: a fantastic value but gave him a lot of money,

722
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Speaker 1: and Titus Howard, and they've now they've got four fifths

723
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Speaker 1: of an offensive line.

724
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Speaker 2: Let's take a quick break.

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Speaker 1: We'll come back a couple more stories Mike Evans Malik

726
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 1: Willis in their introductory pressers, and then a fun little segment.

727
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Speaker 2: Where where we pair some players off back in a minute.

728
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Speaker 1: Back on NFL Daily. We've got a new starting quarterback

729
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Speaker 1: in Miami. It's been a quiet offseason in Miami. They

730
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: did make a signing, however, on Thursday. I think it

731
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Speaker 1: was their second free agent signing of outside the organization

732
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: to two at well as a member of the Miami Dolphins.

733
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Speaker 1: But that's not what we're going to talk about right now.

734
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Speaker 1: We're going to talk about Malik Willis at his introductory

735
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: press conference as a real deal. I don't know if

736
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Speaker 1: we want to call them a franchise quarterback quite yet,

737
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Speaker 1: but we're going to call them a starting quarterback.

738
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Speaker 7: I don't think I put a timeline on it. I

739
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 7: think it happened when I was prepared. I think when

740
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 7: I came in the league, I wasn't prepared. And that's

741
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Speaker 7: not a noctwart coach myself. That's just what it was

742
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Speaker 7: coming from the system I came from. And I've had

743
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Speaker 7: a chance to learn in the last four years since

744
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 7: I've been the league and went through four different offenses

745
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 7: and seeing a bunch of different defenses, and i just

746
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Speaker 7: think I've grown a lot and I'm grateful for the opportunity.

747
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 1: And once again, he sounded really grateful, yeah, throughout the

748
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Speaker 1: press conference for the chance that he's going to have.

749
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Speaker 2: And it's great.

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Speaker 1: This is how it's supposed to work at quarterback in

751
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 1: some levels, like the guys who are supposed to be

752
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: projects Land eventually with the right coach that can help

753
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: develop him, and I'm excited to watch him play for

754
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Speaker 1: the Dolphins. I really think it's a good move for them,

755
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 1: not just because I ranked him number one overall, but

756
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,240
Speaker 1: because it asks flexibility, like if he does great, great,

757
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: and if he's somewhere in the middle or below, like

758
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: they'll be still looking at, you know, young players in

759
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Speaker 1: the draft next year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was the right fit for them given that

761
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 3: they had to shed so much salary cap space this

762
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 3: offseason and really have nothing else to work with after

763
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 3: making a couple of additions. It gives you a short

764
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 3: term answer with an aspiring franchise quarterback who may or

765
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Speaker 3: may not actually become that with a lot of upside,

766
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Speaker 3: a lot of potential displayed in the brief appearances he's

767
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 3: made for the Packers. We always obviously look back at

768
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 3: that game against the Ravens as his best performance, one

769
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Speaker 3: that really proved that he has these talents that we

770
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 3: saw coming out of Liberty and then he could apply

771
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 3: them in the NFL level. But now it's about doing

772
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 3: it over the full season and what's the group around you, like,

773
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,280
Speaker 3: Because so many of these quarterback moves, whether it's rookies

774
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 3: coming out of the draft or it's free agent additions

775
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 3: like Willis who's coming into a starting job for the

776
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 3: first time. It really depends on what's around you. You

777
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 3: have the best set in the NFL and Aaron Brewer,

778
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 3: that's a big, big boost for you. But they still

779
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 3: have other areas that they need to address. Like half

780
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 3: of their offense in the passing game last year ended

781
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,439
Speaker 3: up relying on Darren Waller. Like that's not good enough,

782
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 3: Like we can't rely on that alone. So they have

783
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 3: other moves or at least additions that they need to make,

784
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Speaker 3: either in freegency in the draft to be able to

785
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,439
Speaker 3: improve the situation around him. But more than anything, good

786
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 3: for him to have the opportunity.

787
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the situation is rough.

788
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 1: I mean they don't have a second or third receiver

789
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Speaker 1: right now. You mentioned Waller, he's a free agent. They've

790
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,879
Speaker 1: lost some free agents at tight end and in general.

791
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 1: I know they brought back Greg Doulcage. It is not

792
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: a great looking group next to him, but him and

793
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 1: Devin Hn together should be fun. Mike Evans in San

794
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 1: Francisco should be fun. I really was taken by his

795
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 1: press conferences it really sounded like he was dead set

796
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 1: on leaving the Bucks, that it was maybe more Mike

797
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: Evans decision than it was the Bucks decision.

798
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Speaker 2: Let's listen to him doing his own research.

799
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Speaker 8: Actually, well, first off, I did my research on a

800
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 8: lot of teams that I was looking at. I was

801
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 8: looking at, you know, contenders, guys with good quarterbacks, obviously,

802
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 8: so I was looking at here, Buffalo Bill's, you know,

803
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 8: teams that needed a number one rod receiver. But when

804
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 8: I got on I like this place, this is my

805
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,720
Speaker 8: number one spot on my own And then I talked

806
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 8: to John and Kyle and it's solidified it for me.

807
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Speaker 1: If I'm a fan like Eric Roberts, I'm not feeling

808
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 1: great listening to that, especially after we just gave twenty

809
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 1: nine million guaranteed to Bradley Chubb, which the longer I've

810
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: sat with it feels like one of the worst contracts

811
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Speaker 1: in free agency. Should have just broke out the back

812
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 1: for Mike Evans who clearly wasn't getting monster offers and

813
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: try to change his mind. You got Josh Allen close

814
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:19,479
Speaker 1: that deal.

815
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Speaker 3: You know, Well, let's think about it, like, if your

816
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 3: priorities as a receiver are good quarterback, winning team, like contender,

817
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 3: good coaching staff. All those boxes are checked in San Francisco.

818
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 3: One of those boxes are checked in Buffalo because you

819
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Speaker 3: have a new head coach in charge who used to

820
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 3: be the play caller, and you are a contending team,

821
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Speaker 3: but you have a new coaching staff. So like kind

822
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Speaker 3: of a.

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Speaker 2: Two box, it's a contending team, it's a contending it's.

824
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Speaker 3: A check and a half, you know, like if it's

825
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 3: an next it's a one line instead of both lines

826
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Speaker 3: of the X. So yeah, I would choose San Francisco too.

827
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Speaker 3: The idea that he said I am. I feel like

828
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Speaker 3: they were a piece away and I am that piece,

829
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Speaker 3: which first off, confidence meeter through the roof. Good for you,

830
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 3: Mike Evans. You've earned that right to say that. But

831
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Speaker 3: I also would like to see him stay healthy throughout

832
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 3: the season because the downside to the Niners and their

833
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 3: reputation over the last few years is that they get

834
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Speaker 3: hurt almost more than any team in the NFL. And

835
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Speaker 3: Mike Evans's reputation, for as great as he is and

836
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Speaker 3: how he'll be in Canton one day, is that tricky

837
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 3: hamstring always pops up. And then last year added in

838
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 3: the concussion and the broken clavicle, and you know it

839
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 3: ended up being a pile of injuries. So he's got

840
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:22,879
Speaker 3: to stay healthy. They got to stay healthy to really

841
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 3: maximize this. It makes a lot of sense when you

842
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 3: compare it against the Bills. But I'm also like, it

843
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,919
Speaker 3: was the situation in Tampa that bad that it drove

844
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Speaker 3: you like San Francisco is where I want to go

845
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Speaker 3: after so many years in Tampa.

846
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

847
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Speaker 1: There was something that he also said about the fans,

848
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 1: and I think Bucks fans are in their feelings saying

849
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: like this almost feels like shots at the Bucks.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's about that.

851
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: I think it's about a guy who's done everything you

852
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: can possibly.

853
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:54,720
Speaker 2: Do in his career with the Bucks, and you know, it's.

854
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 1: Still playing at a high level, and it felt like

855
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 1: the Bucks are just running back and just wanting a

856
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 1: new challenge, maybe to motivate himself. That's what it sounded like, like,

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00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 1: Hey man, putting myself in an uncomfortable new situation, that

858
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 1: this is gonna make me be more motivated instead of

859
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 1: just doing the same thing year after. You make me

860
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: more excited. Not unlike what Tom Brady once did. You

861
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,240
Speaker 1: know when he went from New England to damp although

862
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: that wasn't exactly his choice. It was more that Bill

863
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: Belichick was a stiff At the time.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was a good decision. It wasn't.

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Speaker 1: Dre Greenlaw is also coming back to the forty nine

866
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Speaker 1: or seven point five million dollars. If that's actually seven

867
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Speaker 1: point five million dollars, I'm stunned considering his injury history.

868
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 1: Obviously he adds some hood spots to that defense and

869
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 1: some hitting, but considering how little he's played over the

870
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 1: last couple of years, how he's kind of been erratic

871
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: even when he has played that that seems like an

872
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: emotional contract that they gave him. Speaking of emotions, I

873
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: might be a little teary eyed on on the Alvin

874
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: Kamara retirement day.

875
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 2: If that's coming soon? Is it come and soon? Kellen Moore,

876
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 2: let's ask him.

877
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 8: He's your expectation right now?

878
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 2: That albums part of a part of the things.

879
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, we like to We like to go through that

880
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 6: process certainly, and so we feel obviously we we know

881
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 6: album means a lot to us. You know, again, this

882
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,399
Speaker 6: is a or three days in this thing. We've signed

883
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 6: Travis and we'll go through that process.

884
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 2: Considering retirement.

885
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 6: Uh, I'm not gonna get in all that stuff. I

886
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 6: haven't had those conversations in any way.

887
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 2: So Kellen Moore is so bad at lying, I give

888
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:29,879
Speaker 2: him credit.

889
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 3: Did you see that look? Oh that look was so telling.

890
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 3: Oh he froze for about half a second and he

891
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 3: was like, oh God, what do I say?

892
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 4: Uh?

893
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 3: Non answer, Definitely considering retirement.

894
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 1: Also, the first question was do you expect him on

895
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 1: the team and his answer was, well, we're really looking

896
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: forward to going through that process. You're looking forward to

897
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: going through the process of figuring out that whether he's

898
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 1: on the team, Like what's there to look forward anyways, that's.

899
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 3: Like looking forward to jury duty, Like just figure it

900
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:58,359
Speaker 3: out exit.

901
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: I think I think they have and their being respectful

902
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 1: to Kamara, who's probably gonna want to announce it on

903
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 1: his own timeline or maybe isn't totally sure, but is

904
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: leaning that way. And they did all this contract chchinery

905
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: that helped make that a little easier. James Gladstone of

906
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 1: the Jaguars spoke about Brian Thomas Junior on Thursday and

907
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 1: he said, we haven't gotten an offer for him. There

908
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: hasn't been a lot of dialogue on that front, and

909
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: we don't really have any action on that front, and

910
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: said his only concern here was was Brian Thomas Junior.

911
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 1: Reading all these potential reports, there's been so many different reports,

912
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: it's a little too noisy. John Shipley, who does a

913
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: great job on SI dot com covering the Jaguars, believes that, look,

914
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: the price for Brian Thomas Junior would be very high

915
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 1: for them to actually let go of him. And so

916
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: that's why it seems like from the outside the team's

917
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: trying to shut it down. All that said, you know,

918
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 1: you get closer to the draft and that high price

919
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: actually happens.

920
00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:58,800
Speaker 2: I'm still on the lookout.

921
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 1: These quotes to me, did do not necessarily shut down

922
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:02,720
Speaker 1: a potential trade.

923
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 3: No, But logically I don't think a trade makes a

924
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,240
Speaker 3: ton of sense because he's still in a rookie contract.

925
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 3: This is a team that's very up against it in

926
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 3: cap space. In fact, they're in the negative right now

927
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,800
Speaker 3: according to over the Cap. They haven't made really any moves.

928
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 3: They've added Chris Rodriguez to their backfield, that's about it.

929
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 3: So they seem like a team that's pretty content with

930
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 3: what they have. When they're willing to run it back.

931
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 3: So why move a guy that's not costing you a

932
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 3: ton of money on a rookie deal, who has the

933
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 3: potential to be like a legitimate star receiver, had an

934
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 3: incredible rookie season, took a step back last year, but

935
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 3: aims to get back on track. He struggled with drops early.

936
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 3: He also struggled with injuries. Later they found him a

937
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 3: better role. He started to, you know, flourish in the

938
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:39,399
Speaker 3: second half of the season as they went on their

939
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 3: hot streak. I just don't see any point in trading

940
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 3: him unless you're getting an absolute godfather offer. It just

941
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 3: doesn't make enough.

942
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 2: First and a third. Would you do a first and

943
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 2: a third first? No, for I would if you're if.

944
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 1: I was, you replacing him with what you're or a

945
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 1: good player in a in a second or whatever.

946
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 2: I don't.

947
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:58,879
Speaker 1: I don't know if he is a perfect fit there

948
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,399
Speaker 1: and that's great value. I love Brian Thomas Junior though,

949
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: so I'm just trying to wish it happening to go

950
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 1: to a team that I want to see him on,

951
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 1: like the New England.

952
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 3: Patriots year give them a third year.

953
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I should have mentioned when we talked Dolphins. I

954
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 1: just thought this was interesting just for people following this stuff.

955
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:19,879
Speaker 1: Tua's release will cost the Dolphins forty three point eight

956
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 1: million dollars on the cap next year. So they did

957
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,879
Speaker 1: not decide to take all of it this year. They

958
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 1: really couldn't. But they also picked up, you know, an

959
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 1: option bonus in his contract that made it so that

960
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 1: they were pushing a little more into next year. So

961
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 1: it's fifty five million dollars on the cap this year

962
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: and then forty three point eight next year.

963
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 2: This isn't really breaking news.

964
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 1: I just wanted to spell it out how disastrous that

965
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 1: freaking contract was.

966
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 3: And as it currently stands, they have three starting jobs

967
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 3: with filled by players who are free agents on the

968
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 3: defensive side, and three starting jobs filled by players who

969
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,320
Speaker 3: are free agents on the offensive side, and they haven't

970
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 3: made many moves and they don't have cap space to

971
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 3: work with because they are taking that huge hit with Tua,

972
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 3: which says they were so done with him that they

973
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 3: were willing to kill a good portion of their cap

974
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 3: not only this year but next year two just to

975
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,760
Speaker 3: move on and try to start anew with a different quarterback.

976
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 3: And you know what, John Eric Sullivan, Jeff Hafley, I

977
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 3: tip my cap to you, because that takes a lot

978
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 3: of courage and the acceptance that you're probably not going

979
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 3: to be that good immediately when you take over your

980
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 3: new team.

981
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 1: And they're not getting rid of players just to get

982
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: rid of them. They're going to build around the good

983
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,439
Speaker 1: players that they have. I've liked everything that I've heard

984
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: out of Miami. I just think it's going to take

985
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,320
Speaker 1: some time. I think when I looked at their roster,

986
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: Josh Norris sent out a tweet that they still have

987
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 1: six open starting jobs, and I went and looked at it,

988
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 1: and I would approximate it add more like eight to nine.

989
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:47,720
Speaker 1: So this is a team that, even if Milik Willis

990
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: plays well, should be in the mix for a top

991
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: five pick. A quarterback can only do so much, but

992
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: you never know. Some quick nuggets. The Ravens cut Cooper Rush,

993
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 1: that was kind of a failed backup quarterback signing in

994
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: a year ago. The Falcon signed Epson Ebucom who can

995
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 1: still rest the passer a little bit. Bryce Huff is retiring,

996
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: you know, just a couple of years removed from a

997
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 1: big contract from the Eagles. Was with the forty nine

998
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 1: ers last year. He's only twenty seven years old, but

999
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 1: the game not in him anymore, and Tony Dungee is

1000
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 1: officially out at Football Night in America and NBC, they're

1001
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: making some changes to that group. Feels overdue. Always thought

1002
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: Tony Dungee was overrated on TV. Feels mean to say, but.

1003
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it didn't really make a lot of sense behind

1004
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 3: the microphone grab bag here though, I'm gonna start with

1005
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 3: Rush real quick. That fit never made sense when they

1006
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 3: added him. It didn't make sense when they relied on him.

1007
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 3: Whenlamar went down, it didn't make sense. And when Tyler

1008
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 3: Huntley came in and was superior to him, it even

1009
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 3: made less sense. And this makes this move. Yeah, you

1010
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 3: could see this coming from a mile away.

1011
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 2: Tylerbcom he's the man.

1012
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, Snoop Ebicom had a pretty productive career at over

1013
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 3: multiple stops. I'll always remember he's obviously with the Falcons now,

1014
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 3: but I remember the role he played with the Rams.

1015
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 3: Don't forget those those Rams defenses when he made a

1016
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:06,919
Speaker 3: difference for them back in the day.

1017
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 1: So, yeah, Samson's wat I said his name wrong before.

1018
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: And they're gonna need extra edge rushers because I don't

1019
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,320
Speaker 1: think James Pearce is going to be playing football for

1020
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 1: them anytime soon, maybe maybe at all. All right, let's

1021
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: do a rapid fire segment. It is time for Charging

1022
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: into the offseason, presented by Apple Card for all your

1023
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: game day purchases. Nick, you have a piece coming up

1024
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: on NFL dot com, the best fits for remaining free agents.

1025
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 2: Little did you know we would use.

1026
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 1: That on the podcast as well and get the segment sponsored.

1027
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:37,760
Speaker 2: Let's go back and forth.

1028
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: It's the same number, only two players left of my

1029
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 1: top forty overall. I think we're down to about twenty

1030
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 1: five to thirty players overall or left for my one

1031
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,760
Speaker 1: oh one, and the majority of those are like eighty

1032
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 1: five to one oh one. But we're going to try

1033
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: to find the spiciest meatballs we can get and connect

1034
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 1: some players and teams here.

1035
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 3: Okay, so we are here, we'll go safety. We'll go

1036
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 3: to Kwon Brisker. I obviously lean on your top one

1037
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 3: on one to find some candidates here, and I believe

1038
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:10,800
Speaker 3: that despite the fact that they don't have any money,

1039
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 3: the Minnesota Vikings are in the market for safeties. Yeah,

1040
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 3: Garrison Smith, you know, moving on there. Brisker is a

1041
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 3: player who I thought did a really good job for

1042
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 3: the most part in his time in Chicago and would

1043
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 3: be a value addition to a defense like Minnesota. He's

1044
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 3: still out there. We're obviously on the tail end of

1045
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 3: the first wave. Doesn't mean that you still can't get

1046
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 3: your money, but I think they might be able to

1047
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 3: come in at a semi affordable rate to add to

1048
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 3: that defense. They already added James Pierre at cornerback, so

1049
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 3: they are focusing some attention to it. They have needs

1050
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 3: over multiple spots. They don't have the cap space to

1051
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 3: work with right now, but they can you know, do

1052
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 3: some gymnastics to make it work. So I like that

1053
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 3: pairing first.

1054
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 1: He would be really fun on a Brian Flores defense. Yeah,

1055
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 1: I hate it for him. You know, I had him

1056
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 1: ranked in the you know, number forty five once all

1057
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 1: the re signings happened on the final list, so he's

1058
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: one of the higher players left on my list. Kind

1059
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 1: of regret ranking him that high. It's really about the concussions.

1060
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 1: Why I don't think he's going to get much money,

1061
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 1: why he hasn't had much of a market and it

1062
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 1: really it's just so unfortunate for him that it's costing

1063
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 1: him obviously time and health but also financially here as

1064
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 1: a free agent. All right, I will throw out one.

1065
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 1: Let's go Stefan Diggs. Can't you just see him as

1066
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 1: a member of the Baltimore Ravens.

1067
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 3: I had a hard time because he's like a top

1068
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 3: my list and I'm thinking, like, God, what teams need receivers?

1069
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 3: And then I'm like, oh my god, I know they

1070
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 3: just got DJ Moore, But would they entertain the idea

1071
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 3: of a reunion?

1072
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 2: Now?

1073
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 3: I think right, so, yes, the Baltimore Ravens makes the

1074
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 3: most sense. I could definitely see that being a fit

1075
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 3: natural progression.

1076
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 2: I had to think about it for a second.

1077
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: I was like, wait, has he already been on the Ravens,

1078
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 1: because you know he was the Texans and the Patriots,

1079
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 1: like he had some moments against the Ravens. I just

1080
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 1: can absolutely see that for what it's worth. Elliott Wolf

1081
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 1: the nominal Patriots GM, though I kind of believe it's

1082
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 1: Mike Rabel said on Thursday they would not rule out

1083
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 1: bringing stuff on Diggs back at a reduced rate, but

1084
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: I think I'll be able to do better financially in

1085
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 1: whatever the Patriots probably would be willing to pay him.

1086
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 2: All right, give me another pairing.

1087
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 3: Another pairing that we have here, Let's go offensive line.

1088
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 3: Wyatt Teller, a guy who has had a lot of

1089
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:21,919
Speaker 3: success over the seven years with the Browns. In fact,

1090
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 3: I was with the Browns when they acquired him, and

1091
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 3: it was just like a throwaway trade. They're like, what

1092
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 3: was day three pick for Wyatt Teller. We're like, we've

1093
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 3: never heard of this guy. And then he gets in

1094
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 3: the building and you kind of understand, oh, as he

1095
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 3: starts to play, Oh, this guy's this guy's legit, like

1096
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 3: they got to steal here. And obviously he forms, you know,

1097
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 3: a great career with the Browns and again gets the

1098
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:42,800
Speaker 3: accolades and everything else. But he is at that age

1099
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 3: point now and he's been battling some injuries and some

1100
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 3: inconsistencies over the last year and a half two years

1101
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 3: where you think his market value has dropped a little bit.

1102
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 3: He posted a goodbye to Cleveland before I think even

1103
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 3: March began, because he knew he was going to, you know,

1104
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 3: test the market and they weren't interested in keeping him

1105
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 3: bringing him back. So let's put him with a team

1106
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 3: that could use unexperienced guard along their front five. Let's

1107
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 3: send him to Tennessee who needs to replace an older

1108
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 3: guard Kevin Zeitler. Throw Teller in there, replace him. He's

1109
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:13,359
Speaker 3: got him by like five years younger. Why not make

1110
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 3: that work and use a little bit of your cap

1111
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 3: space on it.

1112
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 1: It's funny those are the two highest ranked remaining guards

1113
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 1: on my list. The only two guards remaining still on

1114
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,800
Speaker 1: my list? Is why Teller and Zeitler? Who's a little lower?

1115
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 1: Maybe I maybe I had them a smidge high. But

1116
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,359
Speaker 1: if he can just like start for a team at

1117
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 1: a solid enough level that that's very valuable. I don't

1118
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 1: know if Kirk Cousins is at that point in his

1119
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 1: career anymore, but I do like that mix of him

1120
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 1: with the Raiders the more I thought about it, like

1121
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 1: Kirk was always the and the shining star, the apple

1122
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 1: in Kyle Shanahan's eye. He always wanted to get Kirk back.

1123
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: And you know who is with Kyle Shanahan for many years,

1124
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 1: And I believe, you know is one of the reasons

1125
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 1: why Clint Kubiak is a head coach right now, is

1126
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan. You know, he's all those years in San Francisco.

1127
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,359
Speaker 1: I just feel like he would work perfectly.

1128
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:04,800
Speaker 2: In that system.

1129
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,919
Speaker 1: I think he'd have to adapt to the world where

1130
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 1: he would be Fernando Mendoza's caddy, but would be a

1131
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 1: good one Bee And they could even pretend like, Hey,

1132
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: we're going to start the season with Kirk Cousins and

1133
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:19,919
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, they just want Doza to wait.

1134
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 2: Either way, I just like it.

1135
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 1: I think he's ready to go into his mentor phase

1136
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 1: and if he needed to step in, I could act.

1137
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 1: I thought he played pretty well at the end of

1138
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:31,839
Speaker 1: last season. I ranked him ahead of Aaron Rodgers on

1139
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 1: my rankings, and in that system with Clint Kubiak, I

1140
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 1: think it'd be fine.

1141
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 3: I think I had him right behind Rodgers, although I

1142
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 3: don't have it up in front of me right now.

1143
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,399
Speaker 3: I agree with the sentiment that you just expressed there.

1144
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 3: I don't know if I like the idea of him

1145
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 3: in a Raider uniform. For whatever reason, it just doesn't. Yeah,

1146
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:51,280
Speaker 3: that's it, but it just doesn't right Like Raiders' uniforms

1147
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 3: silver and black intimidating. Kirk Cousins is not intimidating. But

1148
00:51:55,600 --> 00:52:00,040
Speaker 3: he does deserve a job as a backup, and I

1149
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:01,720
Speaker 3: think I thought as a backup, who could push somebody

1150
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 3: for a starting job, you know, if they have a

1151
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 3: young guy that's you know, maybe coming off of injury

1152
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 3: like the Atlanta situation or whatever. I think at this

1153
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 3: point his best market now is as a plus backup,

1154
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 3: And it would make a ton of sense to do

1155
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 3: exactly what you said, even if I don't like it visually. However,

1156
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 3: I am getting tied debt mur to Tim Couch vibes,

1157
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,320
Speaker 3: and maybe that's just me exposing some of my personal

1158
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 3: sports trauma from when I was a child. Hopefully it

1159
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 3: didn't go that poorly.

1160
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it would be like, you know, mister Rogers getting

1161
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 1: traded to the Raiders.

1162
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 2: You know, if mister Rogers was alive, Yeah, and a

1163
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 2: football player.

1164
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 1: Won't you be my what is that mister Rogers documentary?

1165
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 1: Did you ever see that?

1166
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,720
Speaker 3: I did, and I didn't realize he came from such wealth,

1167
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 3: which won't Next to Kirk Cousins classic back getter.

1168
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 1: Classic classic making me cry on on an airplane type

1169
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:58,839
Speaker 1: of movie, there's just like there's that one scene, there's

1170
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: a couple of scenes and Erica chimes in that Mendoza

1171
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 1: is very much Kirk light So they are kind of

1172
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 1: like two versions.

1173
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 2: Oh my god, same guy.

1174
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, he this basically walk they can basically walk through casinos,

1175
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 1: shielding themselves from the horrors of people passing out, the

1176
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 1: worst sitting to put them in papers for prostitutes.

1177
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 3: All right there the card clickers right on the on

1178
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:28,399
Speaker 3: the street. Just don't walk down the strip, guys.

1179
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 2: All right, let's wrap up that quickly, one more each.

1180
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 2: Let's go.

1181
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 3: What was my next one? My last one here was

1182
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:39,800
Speaker 3: America's heel. Juwan Jennings still out there, still available, looking

1183
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 3: to get some money. And I have two options here.

1184
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 3: I know that kind of breaks the rules, but I

1185
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 3: have two options because let's just say this, Juwan, I'd

1186
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 3: like to send you to the AFC West. Okay, Now

1187
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 3: you have two choices here. You can go play for

1188
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 3: a team that may or may not have its superstar

1189
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 3: quarterback to start the season, but you understand that if

1190
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 3: everything goes right, you'll be contention and you'll play for

1191
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:03,399
Speaker 3: a coach who knows how to scheme you open. If

1192
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 3: that's Kansas City, Okay, we can send them to Kansas City,

1193
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 3: or we can send you to their arrival, who occupies

1194
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 3: Sofi Stadium in the Los Angeles Chargers, and you can

1195
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 3: fill the place left vacant by Keenan Allen. If the

1196
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 3: Chargers decide to know, that's an interesting he's a free agent.

1197
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 3: Let's fill out the receiving corps with Quentin Johnston, Juwan

1198
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:27,320
Speaker 3: Jennings and lad Maconkeey and give Justin Herbert options and hopefully, maybe,

1199
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:29,760
Speaker 3: just maybe, with the new offensive coordinator now in charge,

1200
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:31,840
Speaker 3: they'll be able to scheme them open and you'll be

1201
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 3: able to reap the rewards.

1202
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1203
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:36,840
Speaker 1: I like the Chargers in terms of the fit. It

1204
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,280
Speaker 1: feels like they're playing the compensatory pick game or something

1205
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: and not trying to pay too much money. It is

1206
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:44,360
Speaker 1: surprising Kendrick Bourne got a contract before Juwan Jennings. Kendrick

1207
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 1: Bourne is playing for the Cardinals next year. It's probably

1208
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:49,839
Speaker 1: just a financial thing. I mean, I would throw out

1209
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 1: the other AFC West team. We keep talking about the Raiders,

1210
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 1: if only because that would put me over the top

1211
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 1: to winning our Matchmaker free agency game we played on

1212
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 1: the show last week because I had Jwan Jens the Raiders.

1213
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 2: But I don't think that. I don't think that makes

1214
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 2: sense anymore.

1215
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 1: Because they gave Jalen Naylor that money, They're probably not

1216
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:07,879
Speaker 1: going to give it to another guy who mostly plays

1217
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 1: on the inside. I went with the next highest player

1218
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:14,399
Speaker 1: ranked on my board other than Kyle Kyler Murray right now,

1219
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 1: which is Rashid Walker, the tackle of the Packers. I'm

1220
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:18,800
Speaker 1: going to put him to the Lions. They're familiar with

1221
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,720
Speaker 1: him from the division. They really don't have a left tackle.

1222
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 1: And one of the reasons why Walker's market maybe hasn't

1223
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 1: developed is there really aren't that many spots available right

1224
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 1: now for a starting left tackle. He could go to

1225
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 1: Carolina kind of to fill in for Ikeya Khanmu who's

1226
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 1: coming off of a really serious injury, but they already

1227
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 1: have like their quote unquote franchise left tackle. You know,

1228
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 1: the Steelers, would they ever want to replace Broderick Jones,

1229
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 1: who's not one hundred percent. The Browns still need a

1230
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 1: left tackle, so they could just like keep spending, but

1231
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 1: there aren't really a lot of great fits. I just

1232
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 1: want the Lions to be decent, and I think Walker,

1233
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:57,840
Speaker 1: you know, now, he'll have to bring his money demands

1234
00:55:57,880 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 1: down a little bit and maybe he could be a

1235
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 1: four for like a one year deal. Go to Detroit

1236
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 1: and try to just beef up your value.

1237
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 3: There are a lot of layers here. Because I turned

1238
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 3: to your top one on one to kind of assemble

1239
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 3: what I want to do with best remaining free agents

1240
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 3: in their fits, and Walker is one of three guys

1241
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 3: that I don't have paired as of now, among like

1242
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 3: twenty guys, which will obviously pair down because some of

1243
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 3: these guys will sign and will reduce it to a

1244
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 3: pool of about ten. Right. You got Walker there, he

1245
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 3: got Steffan Diggs, which we already worked through, and he

1246
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 3: got Juwan Taylor, and it just speaks to the what

1247
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:27,919
Speaker 3: you just said, which is that there aren't that many

1248
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 3: tackle spots available in the NFL right now. It makes

1249
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 3: sense to go with a guy who is ideally in

1250
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 3: the prime of his career, who got a lot of

1251
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:40,360
Speaker 3: buzz as a desired candidate without necessarily having all the

1252
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 3: tape in the world to back up how much how

1253
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 3: highly people were treating him going into free agency. He

1254
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 3: was a top target for teams that needed offensive lineman

1255
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 3: and yet he's still out there, which speaks to me

1256
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:51,879
Speaker 3: a difference in perceived market value versus actual market value,

1257
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 3: which is often driven by need, and with the lack

1258
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 3: of spots available, that value is going to come down.

1259
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:58,840
Speaker 3: So I like that pairing a lot, because they obviously

1260
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 3: need to figure out what they're going to do now

1261
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 3: that they parted ways with Taylor Decker, and so it

1262
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 3: makes sense. In fact, some of these other guys that

1263
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 3: I've considered on this list another offensive linement. We talked

1264
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 3: about Zeitler earlier, right, I had him going to Detroit.

1265
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 3: Just just throw veterans that are experienced, because last year,

1266
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:15,279
Speaker 3: what did they deal with a lack of depth? And

1267
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 3: they got caught, you know, kind of with their pants

1268
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 3: down with a lack of depth and a lack of

1269
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 3: experienced guys that were able to step in when injuries occurred.

1270
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 3: So why not add veterans, a mix of veterans and

1271
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 3: guys with potential to potentially just in total, solve your

1272
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 3: problem up front.

1273
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, they signed Larry Boram from the Dolphins, who's kind

1274
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 1: of a journeyman. They have Giovanni Manu who they took

1275
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 1: in the fourth round a couple of years ago but

1276
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 1: hasn't looked great when he's played. I don't love entering

1277
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 1: the draft kind of needing a left tackle for a

1278
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 1: team that good, that was charging into the offseason. Presented

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Speaker 1: subject to credit approval. Thank you, SHOOKI that music and

1283
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 1: get out of here. I know you're not quite done

1284
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 1: for the week, but it's a grind of a week.

1285
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 1: Where's that music?

1286
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 3: It is? It is? It is a grind of a week.

1287
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 3: But you know what, We're fortunate to be here and

1288
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 3: cover it. I'll say that, Yes, I love doing the

1289
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 3: show with you. We will be back for one more show.

1290
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:17,919
Speaker 3: I just want to be ready in case a big

1291
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 3: trade happens. The big Ginger will Gavin coming back on

1292
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 3: the show on Friday.

1293
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 2: We will see you then,