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Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you. Also, you're from the Bay Area.
Speaker 2: I'm surprised you need to hit us with some barrier
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Speaker 3: I am from the the I am from the Bay.
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Speaker 3: We'll do some Golden State Warriors of Fanning and hopefully,
Speaker 3: hopefully the Angels of Basketball give them a victory over
Speaker 3: the Grizzlies.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh boy, that was a roughout that lost to
Speaker 2: the Clippers. I was very painful. I was surprised. I
Speaker 2: was looking at them like the Clippers Kawhi and James
Speaker 2: Harden what I mean. I know this on paper was
Speaker 2: supposed to work, but.
Speaker 3: But my clip, my La Clipper friends who are fans,
Speaker 3: they're just like nihilists and they're like, just wait, something
Speaker 3: bad's gonna happen. Oh yeah, I'm like, can you just
Speaker 3: take a moment to enjoy the No, no, something terrible
Speaker 3: is about to happen. And it sounds like Donald Trump
Speaker 3: for some reason too.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, Kawhi's knees are gonna turn Yeah truly, I
Speaker 2: mean yeah, I mean, as an unwell Laker fan, I'm
Speaker 2: also the same on my friend. All right, Yeah, I'm glad.
Speaker 2: I'm glad you had you a little fun because he's
Speaker 2: about to get ugly.
Speaker 3: Baby.
Speaker 2: But hey, look we got our own. I mean we're
Speaker 2: gonna play the Timberwolf, so we'll see.
Speaker 4: We'll see how that.
Speaker 3: To ask you a question, because all my Lakers, you know,
Speaker 3: we're on WhatsApp a chat, and all my college friends
Speaker 3: they talk Matt Ship whenever it's Lakers Warriors, they were
Speaker 3: dead quiet yesterday because I think everyone Warriors fans and the
Speaker 3: Lakers fans were like, we don't have to face each other.
Speaker 2: Yeah, hell yeah, of course that was we don't want
Speaker 2: but we all knew it was like a hidden dude code.
Speaker 2: We all knew don't don't need that, don't need to start.
Speaker 2: And that's also the rivalry everyone else was praying for you, like,
Speaker 2: let one of these teams just knock each other out
Speaker 2: and help it make it a little bit easier.
Speaker 1: In the postseason ed, we do like to ask our guests,
Speaker 1: what is something from your search history that it's revealing
Speaker 1: about who you are?
Speaker 5: So Robs, it's lyrics rob Sonic meaning so I've been
Speaker 5: listen Lyrics Sonic meaning yes, so Rob Sonic is an
Speaker 5: excellent rapper. However, I've been listening to him a lot,
Speaker 5: and I sent to my mate Casey, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 5: what do you think of this? He goes the lyrics
Speaker 5: are nonsense, and they are And the first result is
Speaker 5: a Reddit post being like do these mean anything? And
Speaker 5: people being like I don't think so, and it's like
Speaker 5: the phrases mean stuff, but together they do not. So
Speaker 5: it was like reading that and being like.
Speaker 4: Am I stupid? Am I?
Speaker 3: Just?
Speaker 4: Am? I?
Speaker 5: Is this like coca melon for like white boys? Like?
Speaker 4: Like what is? And I still listen to it? Rob Sonics?
Speaker 6: I love that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not familiar with rob Sonic, but have you
Speaker 1: gone to genius and like watch people try to ascribe meaning.
Speaker 5: To entirely people just being like this one phrase means this,
Speaker 5: and this one phrase means this.
Speaker 1: Literally, this is what it means?
Speaker 5: Yes, like this is it? I respect it because it's
Speaker 5: so fun to listen to. And I found him through
Speaker 5: acep Rock, who is an excellent ex rapper and of.
Speaker 1: Like fun word play that would that is fun to
Speaker 1: look at.
Speaker 5: On rap g and one of their best one of
Speaker 5: the best rob Sonic songs is Killjoy, which has asp
Speaker 5: Rock on it.
Speaker 4: I cannot recommend it enough.
Speaker 1: All right, we'll check that out. What is something that
Speaker 1: you think is underrated?
Speaker 5: So about two weeks ago I had like a minor breakdown.
Speaker 5: It's like I was just like called a friend crying
Speaker 5: like it's the normal way, and.
Speaker 1: More friends crying, by the way, that's underrated.
Speaker 7: That's the only way I call friends.
Speaker 4: My wonderful, beautiful friends were very much there for me.
Speaker 5: But I was like I hit burnout and one of
Speaker 5: my anti burnout measures because I found myself just like
Speaker 5: forcing myself to like listen to music with how I felt,
Speaker 5: just to like reinforce the feeling. So I've been listening
Speaker 5: to albums through the whole way. That's my underrate.
Speaker 6: I think.
Speaker 4: I think people really need to like.
Speaker 5: Sit down and say, I'm gonna listen to this thing
Speaker 5: front to back and like see what a thing I
Speaker 5: done it mostly successfully. Like I've listened to a few
Speaker 5: like Inflames clay Man Robsonics album I can't remember the
Speaker 5: name of.
Speaker 7: First, you can't remember the name because none of the nonsense.
Speaker 5: So it's like how would I possibly append meaning LP's
Speaker 5: I'll Sleep when You're Dead, absolute banger, incredible. Then I
Speaker 5: listened to the Blows Great Escape, and that album does
Speaker 5: not hold up at all.
Speaker 4: There was there's like four or five really.
Speaker 5: Great songs and a lot of stuff where you're just like, oh,
Speaker 5: I didn't listen to this album through, you know what,
Speaker 5: for a reason.
Speaker 1: I just had I'm actually not going to say that
Speaker 1: that would have just destroyed my mentions for the rest
Speaker 1: of my life.
Speaker 4: But there's a say it.
Speaker 1: So for a long time. Kendrick Lamar's Good Kid, Mad City.
Speaker 1: It has the highest highs, has the highest highs of
Speaker 1: Kendrick's albums. But I just went back and listened to
Speaker 1: it all the way through, and there are some dead
Speaker 1: spots that I had.
Speaker 7: Told I'm going to burn down your house. I'm going
Speaker 7: to burn your house down.
Speaker 1: Just a couple of dead spots that I totally reatten
Speaker 1: out of my memory.
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 1: I have one album that I just consistently listened to
Speaker 1: all the way through and it gets better and better
Speaker 1: every time, which is Blonde by frankosh Not. I can't stop.
Speaker 1: It's a great album. Yeah one, Are you okay?
Speaker 7: Are you meant to be okay?
Speaker 1: I don't think in.
Speaker 5: My case, no one album I will recommend that. I
Speaker 5: don't think anyone else will have mentioned. But if you
Speaker 5: like jazz, Charles Mingus is Black Saint and The Sinner
Speaker 5: Lady is one of my top three albums of all time,
Speaker 5: and I have not sat down and listened to that
Speaker 5: all the way through in like twelve years, and I
Speaker 5: was like brought to tears by. It's fucking incredible. But yeah,
Speaker 5: this has been like a I've really been avoiding doing
Speaker 5: it for no good reason, just like listening to music
Speaker 5: to poke my brain to feel better rather than enjoying it.
Speaker 4: And it's just been it's been lovely, been really enjoyable.
Speaker 1: We just had yesterday's guest, Jody Everergan, who is like
Speaker 1: releases a new podcast as every week like a new
Speaker 1: like entire different podcast week, has a new show called
Speaker 1: Winter Album Summer Album, which is you go through and
Speaker 1: talk about albums and from that perspective you like categorize them,
Speaker 1: which I thought was kind of a fun way to
Speaker 1: think about stuff. But we're an album podcast these past
Speaker 1: couple of days talking a lot about albums. I agree
Speaker 1: with this though, that this is, uh, yeah, I'm a
Speaker 1: dark though, Like, yeah, you have.
Speaker 7: You read Questlove's Momenta Blues.
Speaker 1: No, I've heard.
Speaker 7: It's like it's so good and it's.
Speaker 8: Like an autobiography kind of and it talks about like
Speaker 8: from when he was like a Toddler on, but like
Speaker 8: every chapter is interspersed with like letters to and from
Speaker 8: the roots manager, and then also with all of his
Speaker 8: recommendations of albums from that year, so like from when
Speaker 8: he was like four or five, like the albums he
Speaker 8: would recommend from that year and why, like how they're ranked,
Speaker 8: So like every year of his life he has albus recommendations.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, somebody asked the list of those online, what's
Speaker 1: what's something you think is overrated?
Speaker 9: Well, this one, I'm curious your thoughts on. But my
Speaker 9: overrated is uh is maga. So here's here's here's something
Speaker 9: I've been thinking scene And no he has magazines. Uh no,
Speaker 9: here's what I've been thinking about. And I actually would
Speaker 9: love your love your thoughts. But you know, on my
Speaker 9: history podcast this Day, we did an episode right before
Speaker 9: inauguration where we were chatting a little bit about kind
Speaker 9: of the present moment, and I said, then, and I
Speaker 9: think I kind of feel like I was right. I
Speaker 9: said then, whether I was wondering whether the window between
Speaker 9: Trump's second election and inauguration was the high water mark
Speaker 9: for the kind of cultural cachet for Trump world, and
Speaker 9: purely in a cultural sense, you know that was when
Speaker 9: it was like felt coolest, felt edgiest, like let's take
Speaker 9: a chance, let's roll the dice. And a lot of
Speaker 9: people I know who voted for Trump, like that was
Speaker 9: kind of the vibe in those last couple of weeks
Speaker 9: heading into the election. You know, it's just like, well,
Speaker 9: let's let's see you know this, this feels this feels cool,
Speaker 9: which I think is a big part of help people
Speaker 9: make political decisions.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 9: And I just feel like in the last couple of weeks,
Speaker 9: for some maybe for obvious reasons, just the cool factor
Speaker 9: is gone.
Speaker 2: I mean it's gone.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 9: And you know, I think a lot of the people
Speaker 9: I know who were the like anti left, heterodox thinker
Speaker 9: types who found themselves voting for Trump or at least
Speaker 9: flirting with that, like they're kind of horrified by what
Speaker 9: Musk is doing and then more of our by what
Speaker 9: happened to their portfolios.
Speaker 10: Over the last few weeks.
Speaker 9: But you know, like some guy went on Joe Rogan
Speaker 9: and like kind of called him out and was like,
Speaker 9: what's going on here? Like I'm just seeing like the
Speaker 9: cracks seem to be forming in a way from a
Speaker 9: cultural sense, Like I'm not trying to say that like
Speaker 9: the real war fallout of maca world is not real,
Speaker 9: but the cool factor seems to be disappearing. And the
Speaker 9: sort of knock off to this is I've also been
Speaker 9: thinking about how, like Mark Zuckerberg looks like the biggest
Speaker 9: dufist in the world, Like that guy no one has
Speaker 9: ever bought high more than Mark Zuckerberg, like showing up
Speaker 9: in that chain and talking about like at the very
Speaker 9: very very peak moment that I feel like the wind
Speaker 9: started shifting two weeks later and look back at it
Speaker 9: and I'm like, oh, man, like you really you're You're yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean he was like flirting, he was getting into UFC.
Speaker 1: The the evolution of Zuck. The thing you got to
Speaker 1: understand about the evolution of Zuck is.
Speaker 2: The second he did joined the JITs mob. It was
Speaker 2: over when he got into jiu jitsu.
Speaker 3: You're the mob now.
Speaker 2: I don't know now masculinity and crisis perhaps.
Speaker 1: But he'll just switch back. I mean he'll be He'll
Speaker 1: probably and this is a controversial take, billionaire will probably
Speaker 1: be fine.
Speaker 9: Yeah, But do you feel like the vibes have shifted him?
Speaker 9: I am I is this wishful thinking of my part?
Speaker 2: I mean, I think just from watching I mean, I
Speaker 2: think just the last few weeks with the tariffs, I
Speaker 2: think it's especially been pronounced because a lot of the influencers,
Speaker 2: especially online, who were like, yeah, man, it's Trump baby,
Speaker 2: let's do this. Because right after the election, everyone got
Speaker 2: their bump and their crypto and stuff, and all these
Speaker 2: mouthpieces that like the Dave Portnoy's and the Aiden Rosses
Speaker 2: of it all were like, yeah, dude, this is what
Speaker 2: I'm talking about. And then then came reality and now
Speaker 2: all these guys like what the fuck is going on?
Speaker 2: And I think that's that's like that. I think that's
Speaker 2: like sort of the first layer. Then I also think
Speaker 2: like the tesla of it all has also brought to
Speaker 2: the surface, like this idea that suddenly now the the
Speaker 2: sort of ideology that was screaming about how dumb electronic
Speaker 2: electric vehicles are are suddenly like caping for them and
Speaker 2: being like the cyber truck's actually really sick. It's just
Speaker 2: like you see a lot of these like even comedians online,
Speaker 2: We're like, dude, this the truck fucking sucks. It looks stupid,
Speaker 2: Like why are people even like pretending so that rights?
Speaker 1: Yeah, which I feel like that is like now the
Speaker 1: thing that no.
Speaker 9: But like like what it is? Like, what is I
Speaker 9: would love to hear what Like Theovonn really feels like
Speaker 9: right now, you know, because that guy, clearly, I think,
Speaker 9: was just like, oh this feels cool. All my friends
Speaker 9: are doing this, let me get on board in the
Speaker 9: last few weeks and sort of shit, And I wonder
Speaker 9: if he's just like what.
Speaker 2: He's just a useful what I signed up for?
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of those guys, you know
Speaker 1: that Pete Davidson character on SNL who's just like following
Speaker 1: like the girls like put this on. He's like okay, okay,
Speaker 1: then yeah, okay, you know, just like says okay to
Speaker 1: whatever people are. I feel like that's him. That's like
Speaker 1: Rogan in a lot of cases, like they're just what
Speaker 1: you put somebody in front of them saying a thing
Speaker 1: and they're like, yeah, yeah, that's interesting, man, that's interesting
Speaker 1: because yeah, I was doing some research.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well yeah, I think even with THEO Vaughn, like
Speaker 2: one of his recent episodes, I saw a clip from
Speaker 2: it and they were talking about the tariffs and he
Speaker 2: was just kind of like confused. He's like, why would
Speaker 2: they do I don't get anything, like this is like bad.
Speaker 2: Like and before I think a lot of these people
Speaker 2: who would just be like, yeah, everything's good, everything's great,
Speaker 2: this is the way to go, they're now they're kind
Speaker 2: of falling into this bucket. Like at best, they're like,
Speaker 2: I'm I think he knows what he's doing, but like
Speaker 2: this doesn't make sense to me. And then you have
Speaker 2: the people who are like fuck all this, I'm not
Speaker 2: I'm seeing less and less of like the people fully
Speaker 2: come out at least and from like that manisphere area
Speaker 2: that got a lot of attention where they're like, you know,
Speaker 2: this is it, this is this is the way.
Speaker 1: I did have the question heading into this presidency of like,
Speaker 1: how are these people who are like edge lords, you know,
Speaker 1: mega fans going to continue to be edge lords when
Speaker 1: Trump is president? Like how they just like tune in
Speaker 1: every day and be like I think the president's doing
Speaker 1: a good job, right, I think he's cool, but like now,
Speaker 1: like the presidency's going so badly, like I feel like
Speaker 1: maybe they can continue to be edge lords because it's
Speaker 1: like such a counterfactual to be like, yeah, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I think I think he's doing a great job, but Yeah,
Speaker 1: the degree to which they have to whiplash what they
Speaker 1: support like on it from day to day is probably
Speaker 1: a little bit deflating.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 9: I mean, my my friend Nicole Hammer, who who's the
Speaker 9: co host on My History Show and is like a historian,
Speaker 9: but she really watches right wing spaces, bless her heart.
Speaker 9: She listens to like hours of right wing talk and
Speaker 9: sort of watches this stuff every day, and she's like,
Speaker 9: there are very few even the like pure uncut maga folks.
Speaker 9: There are very few like defenses of the tariff policy
Speaker 9: and even the Doge stuff, and it is entirely do
Speaker 9: you trust Trump?
Speaker 2: Like that? Is this that is the safe hit?
Speaker 6: Yeah, still left.
Speaker 9: And I mean that's pretty powerful, you know, and so
Speaker 9: it might still work, but even that doesn't feel like
Speaker 9: like Trump's cool and doesn't it feel great to own
Speaker 9: the libs like that is just seems to have evaporated.
Speaker 2: Or it's it's definitely diminish return, and.
Speaker 4: So who knows.
Speaker 9: I mean, I don't know what that means for coming next,
Speaker 9: but I don't know if the pendulum swings all the
Speaker 9: way back to you know, the EI is cool, but uh,
Speaker 9: you know, but it is that's that's Uh, that's my
Speaker 9: that's my overrated I think, like, yeah.
Speaker 1: I meaning Megas, I'm buying low on Mega. I think
Speaker 1: they're going through a rough patch, but buying the dip
Speaker 1: that day. Well, that's because I am buying that dip. Ben.
Speaker 1: What's some of these things over toes.
Speaker 6: Toes?
Speaker 11: Uh huh, it's the lack of hesitation for me.
Speaker 12: I just you know, I was, I was looking my
Speaker 12: own earlier and I was like, I have Bill's what
Speaker 12: the fuck are you guys contributing? Like, I know, the
Speaker 12: big to u in the human is necessary, the big
Speaker 12: toes in the humans are necessary for balance and stuff
Speaker 12: like that. Shout out Matt Boosties. But you yeah, you'll
Speaker 12: look at you know, we talked about Tozies and Fingy.
Speaker 12: Since Jack once said not too.
Speaker 11: Homely, I also call him Fings.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 12: Anyway, well, Sophia, one of Jack's many street names is
Speaker 12: Fingy's O'Brien. And I'm sorry I had to learn that
Speaker 12: on air.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 12: Nice, super into it.
Speaker 11: Uh along, he love stealing, so we know.
Speaker 12: It was just, you know, I know, people like fetishize
Speaker 12: any part of the human body or whatever. There's someone
Speaker 12: listening right now who is like, oh fuck, is this
Speaker 12: the episode where they get the elbows? It's not, bro,
Speaker 12: it's probably not, but uh, but to trends. But but anyway,
Speaker 12: you know, I've always had a difficult time calling stuff
Speaker 12: overrated because it's cool to like believe in people, even
Speaker 12: if they're Quentin Tarantino. But the thing is the I
Speaker 12: just don't understand the function of most of the toes.
Speaker 12: Our main overrated that we were talking about a little
Speaker 12: bit earlier that we can all agree with is uh,
Speaker 12: this is the moment where Sophia, you and I gang
Speaker 12: up on a good old fingies O'Brien. This guy owns
Speaker 12: a printer, like on purpose, you have a printer one
Speaker 12: percenter one person printers that.
Speaker 11: Will worry printers overrated, printers overrated? Why is there never
Speaker 11: a solution where they just keep printing? Like why is
Speaker 11: it that I always have homework which I bought you
Speaker 11: for one purpose to print? Now I have to buy
Speaker 11: friends for you, Like That's how I feel. It's like
Speaker 11: offensive to me.
Speaker 2: It's like babies.
Speaker 1: They'll let you have them for free, but they don't
Speaker 1: tell you how much they're gonna cost, you know, to
Speaker 1: keep feeding them.
Speaker 12: You gotta keep Yeah, you got to act like their
Speaker 12: ideas are interesting when they're around, like four.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're freeing your fingies, O'Brien over here.
Speaker 11: I just feel like they're like air pods, you know
Speaker 11: what I mean. It's like, oh, now I have fucking
Speaker 11: homework to go with my headphones.
Speaker 13: Like why are printers or children printers?
Speaker 6: Okay?
Speaker 11: Children? Question mark for me?
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break and we'll come
Speaker 1: back and talk about our FK and we're back, and
Speaker 1: we're back any kind of fool could see. You can't
Speaker 1: stop saying that when we come back from things now
Speaker 1: for some reason. Anyways, we do have our Kate Junior
Speaker 1: as the death Czar and health Czar, and we've seen
Speaker 1: quite the boom in anti vax grifter activity since measles
Speaker 1: is now a thing that we have to worry about.
Speaker 1: People aligned with RFK are trying their best to obscure
Speaker 1: the threat of measles and simultaneously profit off of the
Speaker 1: fear of parents who refused to use vaccines.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: So last week, the guy behind the Pandemic documentary had
Speaker 1: a webinar along with Children's Health Defense, which is an
Speaker 1: organization that RFK Junior founded. And on that webinar he
Speaker 1: made the claim that measles actually, and I don't know
Speaker 1: if you guys knew this, it's actually a bio weapon
Speaker 1: and that's why shit is out of hand in West Texas.
Speaker 1: So yeah, you guys probably thought it was an illness
Speaker 1: that was happening to these families because they haven't vaccinated
Speaker 1: their children. But to quote him from the webinar, my
Speaker 1: belief after interviewing these families is that this has been
Speaker 1: manipulated and targeted toward a community that is a threat
Speaker 1: because of their natural way of living. Can you call
Speaker 1: it what it is and that is a bio weapon?
Speaker 12: Okay, okay, I hate when podcasts say this ordinarily, but pause,
Speaker 12: Uh the natural way of living.
Speaker 1: Is Do you hate it when they do that because
Speaker 1: it's confusing and you pause the podcast? Wait they said
Speaker 1: the pause?
Speaker 12: Yeah, Like I I.
Speaker 13: Think we're all on the same page together here in
Speaker 13: that getting measles is not the ideal, you know, Tuesday
Speaker 13: or whatever, right, Like, I can probably.
Speaker 1: Fit it in on Wednesday, but definitely not Tuesday.
Speaker 11: You gotta talk my afternoon vibe, but like I can't
Speaker 11: come in right now.
Speaker 12: Yeah, morning measles means you have a problem, saved measles
Speaker 12: for like after five.
Speaker 11: Get some.
Speaker 13: This is fucking scary, though, and part of my my
Speaker 13: blue language there because we've.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to I can't, I can't detailed notes
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 12: Oh my gosh, I'm still in court podcast court pause.
Speaker 6: All right, so the.
Speaker 12: Can we unpost, we can't overruled, we get overall overalled.
Speaker 1: But yeah, if you remember last week, the media was
Speaker 1: breathlessly claiming that RFK Junior had come around on vaccines
Speaker 1: because he said the words measles can be prevented by
Speaker 1: the m M R vaccine. And then the media was like,
Speaker 1: and then we stopped listening, so we didn't hear what
Speaker 1: he said after that, But they left out the part
Speaker 1: where he turned around a few hours after that statement
Speaker 1: and celebrated the healers that were helping kids in the
Speaker 1: Mennonite community. One of those healers is Richard Bartlett, the
Speaker 1: guy who was doing this, hosting this webinar.
Speaker 11: Oh, I thought he's the guy that makes pairs.
Speaker 1: He's the Bartlett family, the pair am I Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: I think you're the pair entrepreneurs.
Speaker 11: Sorry, prepared for this current events, prepare fingies.
Speaker 1: He used the webinar to also sell and this is
Speaker 1: really like next level grifting. This probably should be in
Speaker 1: the Ken GRIFTI Singer segment, but he is selling AI
Speaker 1: powered snake oil as part of a Measles protocol quote,
Speaker 1: along with mouthwashed supplemental oxygen, and a few other items.
Speaker 1: The Measles protocol includes Rebel Lions own Fierce Immunity capsules,
Speaker 1: which cost fifty dollars for a single bottle and contain
Speaker 1: a blend of five supplements available off the shelf that
Speaker 1: the company claims have been formulated with a supposed AI
Speaker 1: technology known as swarm Intelligence.
Speaker 6: Oh my god, this is so nine.
Speaker 11: I just want to say that unpopular opinion, But those motherfuckers,
Speaker 11: if they're going to be doing dumb shit, are gonna
Speaker 11: have fresh breath while doing it?
Speaker 1: Yeah? So yeah, it's probably mouthwash that makes your breath
Speaker 1: smell like shit.
Speaker 11: To be honest, No, why are you ruining the one
Speaker 11: good thing about this.
Speaker 1: They're like, you gotta do like a rinse with something
Speaker 1: that smells like vinegar or something.
Speaker 13: Now, AI is is a pretty controversial thing at the moment,
Speaker 13: often misunderstood. In fact, I fundamentally disagree with the phrase
Speaker 13: artificial intelligence. I think it's often misused. We're really talking
Speaker 13: about large language models or algorithms. But Jack, as you found,
Speaker 13: there is a difference here for the swarm intelligence.
Speaker 1: Yeah, unlike regular AI. His technology is the natural form
Speaker 1: of intelligence. That's the way our brain works, that's the
Speaker 1: way our body works.
Speaker 11: All organic AI is it fucking cage free is free range.
Speaker 1: It's free range, cage free AI intelligence. And it doesn't
Speaker 1: hallucinate because everything we are doing is based on reality,
Speaker 1: based on the real evidence. It's like real. It reminds
Speaker 1: me of like a Tim Robinson like character. It's a
Speaker 1: natural form of intelligence. That's the way our brain works,
Speaker 1: that's the where our body works.
Speaker 11: I can totally picture that. And also, I just think
Speaker 11: it's weird to be like it's a bioweapon when like, yeah,
Speaker 11: it is if no one is vaccinated. Yeah, yeah, you
Speaker 11: are literally making it into a bio weapon. So that's
Speaker 11: a really confusing accusation to make. It's being like, hey, guys,
Speaker 11: I've made this lethal to children and then being like
Speaker 11: you know what's crazy. This thing is lethal to children,
Speaker 11: and it's like, no, you didn't vaccinate. We already solved
Speaker 11: this problem. It's the MMR vaccine. It's been solved. You
Speaker 11: don't need to come through being like oh now it's
Speaker 11: mouthwashed and bleach and like clicking my heels three times
Speaker 11: and getting a perm like yeah, no.
Speaker 1: I hope perm is one of the things.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what the side effects.
Speaker 1: Everybody needs perms to fight easles.
Speaker 13: Oh uh uh yeah, hot dog costume. We're all trying
Speaker 13: to find the guys who did that.
Speaker 1: Everybody needs to be looking like Art Garfunkle. If they're
Speaker 1: the only way.
Speaker 6: It's the only onest free the future is now.
Speaker 1: All right, we do have to move on to complicity Huffman.
Speaker 1: And this does tie into science and are rfk Junior
Speaker 1: because there is something called the Breakthrough Awards that are
Speaker 1: considered the Oscars for Science and seth Rogen, But you know,
Speaker 1: I think they try and have some entertainers there to
Speaker 1: like kind of make it underline that idea of like
Speaker 1: the Oscars for Science, this is like the glitz and glam.
Speaker 11: Hey I love seth Rogen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like him too, and I like him even
Speaker 1: more after this story because so this being a room
Speaker 1: full of scientists being rewarded for breakthroughs and like progressing
Speaker 1: human knowledge and understanding of the universe. You you might
Speaker 1: think that this would be a place for some commiseration
Speaker 1: on the blatantly anti scientific values that have overtaken the
Speaker 1: US government and that are kind of on the march
Speaker 1: around the world. And then you look at who funds
Speaker 1: the awards and you start to realize that nowhere is safe,
Speaker 1: nowhere that the long fingies of capitalism touch is actually safe.
Speaker 1: The event that quote, the event which was attended by
Speaker 1: Jeff Bezos and the founding sponsors Mark Zuckerberg and Sir
Speaker 1: j Brinn, Sir gay Bryn. So Seth Rogen thought it
Speaker 1: was worth noting the irony of an award honoring science
Speaker 1: sponsored and attended by the very oligarchs who are most
Speaker 1: responsible or at least partially responsible for dismantling scientific values
Speaker 1: in the United States. So his speech opened, it's amazing
Speaker 1: that others in this room over underwrote, electing a man
Speaker 1: who in the last week single handedly destroyed all of
Speaker 1: American science. It's amazing. It's amazing how much good science
Speaker 1: you can destroy with three hundred and twenty million dollars
Speaker 1: in RFK Junior, very fast, get it, fucking dog. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I am assuming that got like a pretty good pop
Speaker 1: from the actual scientists in the room. And I'm going
Speaker 1: to be forced to just assume that because whoever edited
Speaker 1: the award show for broadcasts thought that irony was less
Speaker 1: worth noting and cut his comments. In the version those broadcasts,
Speaker 1: Rogan just starts talking about the person they're honoring. They
Speaker 1: just like have a picture of him that they just
Speaker 1: like move out to the podium, and then he just
Speaker 1: starts like a fucking where'd Smoochie go? Smoochie went back
Speaker 1: to his home planets.
Speaker 13: That's a position where what do we say, or what
Speaker 13: we used to say? Only a cat can stare.
Speaker 12: At a king. I can't believe they edited that part out.
Speaker 12: That's probably the part that meant the fucking most to them.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, even more frustrating is and this just like
Speaker 1: seems like it's the way things operate right now. The
Speaker 1: people who make the show or who like the behind
Speaker 1: the show just made a statement to the Hollywood Reporter
Speaker 1: that said the cuts to the YouTube broadcasts were made
Speaker 1: because of time constraints. It's just like, yeah, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I just feel like this slide into authoritarian oligarchy and fascism,
Speaker 1: like we have we just have so much experience now
Speaker 1: at this point just having marketing and all the various
Speaker 1: forces of capitalism, and like the market just tell us
Speaker 1: blatant lies with like just careful wording and you know,
Speaker 1: message discipline that the entire thing is just happening in
Speaker 1: like very polite language by polite people, you know, or.
Speaker 11: You know, just straight up lies, being like oh the
Speaker 11: zero to nine Supreme Court decision, No it was for
Speaker 11: you for me, the zero wasn't for you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like the administration itself doesn't give a fuck. They're
Speaker 1: gonna just tell blatant lies and like to not even
Speaker 1: try and make them sound real. But I just feel
Speaker 1: like the lies that these organizations are telling themselves are
Speaker 1: like they're they're just like yeah, whatever, I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: just say like it was time constraints or whatever.
Speaker 13: How scary is it that Orwellian doublethink has become cliche?
Speaker 13: And yeah, you know it's Orwellian doublethink is like too
Speaker 13: much work. Like they're just like, no, just tell the
Speaker 13: easiest lie, Like we don't have to create new language
Speaker 13: for just fucking use like highly you have, like you know,
Speaker 13: the marketing industry. Like I always think about the fact
Speaker 13: that like the most educated people graduating from like colleges
Speaker 13: every year are going into rooms where they like come
Speaker 13: up with the best language to lie to people, like
Speaker 13: that's what our world is. And yeah, I mean it's
Speaker 13: just it's been stacked up again against everybody for so
Speaker 13: long that we like don't even notice, Like we're just
Speaker 13: all all of the you know, our immune system is down,
Speaker 13: like we just like don't.
Speaker 11: Even As someone that grew up in the Soviet Union,
Speaker 11: you know, I can tell you that this is like
Speaker 11: a really familiar yea.
Speaker 3: And it is.
Speaker 11: Especially like I was thinking about a dis in connection
Speaker 11: to the White House Correspondence dinner thing that I think
Speaker 11: we might talk about later, right, yeah, Amber Ruffin. Yeah,
Speaker 11: but just the idea that everything changes to where it's
Speaker 11: essentially like, you know, people after Stalin spoke would clap
Speaker 11: for like twenty minutes straight because you never wanted to
Speaker 11: be the first one to stop. Yeah, because you were afraid.
Speaker 1: And now we do that for movies at times.
Speaker 11: So no, but just the idea that like you can
Speaker 11: completely warp, yeah, what people actually think about a thing
Speaker 11: based on all of this other stuff. So it's like
Speaker 11: you you want to warp the idea of oh Seth
Speaker 11: Rogan was at this thing and he fully approves it, right,
Speaker 11: Like you're putting out a YouTube thing that is actually
Speaker 11: like based on a false premise that Seth Rogan, I
Speaker 11: guarantee you would not have said yes to this shit
Speaker 11: if he knew that they were going to cut his
Speaker 11: speech like that. So now as far as history is concerned, Hey,
Speaker 11: Seth Rogan was that the Jeff Bezos and Sid gay
Speaker 11: Brin thing and he fully supports it, right, And that
Speaker 11: I think is vary to me, like Soviet Union manipulation.
Speaker 11: Just take out this little part and now the history's
Speaker 11: totally changed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the fact that he was completely erased for
Speaker 1: any pictures that they evactually that's that was actually done
Speaker 1: to conserve to printer inc. We actually needed to, like
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys know how sensitive that
Speaker 1: it is.
Speaker 13: So we just also credit where do Joseph Stalin very much,
Speaker 13: very much a good pioneer in the world of photoshop weaponized.
Speaker 1: Really truly like one of one of our first He
Speaker 1: would just erase people by hand. Yeah, he was really an.
Speaker 13: Old school kind of Oh god, it's it's also it's
Speaker 13: a terrible and an impactful point. You know, the what
Speaker 13: we're what we're saying here, folks, is that we need
Speaker 13: to pay attention to how quickly things can road like
Speaker 13: how quickly unnormal things can be normalized right now.
Speaker 1: And we just have so much experience just being like, no,
Speaker 1: it's done for time constraints. I've had to tell that
Speaker 1: lie before that like edits were made because of time constraints,
Speaker 1: when it was actually like no, that just like didn't work.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was there, thanks, Yeah, it was yeah.
Speaker 1: Ben's holding at the beginning of this episode.
Speaker 11: I remember that episode I was on, but it you know,
Speaker 11: it's I don't know.
Speaker 1: So yeah, let's let's get into the Amber Ruffin thing
Speaker 1: because it kind of flew under the radar. But a
Speaker 1: couple weeks ago, I mean like a month ago, was
Speaker 1: announced Amber Ruffin was going to host the White House
Speaker 1: Correspondence Dinner, which is a super funny comedian used to
Speaker 1: have a podcast on her network, but a late.
Speaker 11: Night show, late night host, super funny stand up and
Speaker 11: incredible fashion and.
Speaker 1: So she had said on a podcast that her roasting
Speaker 1: duties like wouldn't necessarily be even handed and would focus
Speaker 1: on the administration and office, like you know, every single
Speaker 1: White House correspondent senter ever, but the explanation so she
Speaker 1: she was removed a couple of weeks ago, and after
Speaker 1: like one of the you know, partisan mega people in
Speaker 1: the Trump administration was like, Jay's like, look at this,
Speaker 1: She's admitting it's not going to be even handed, Like
Speaker 1: she this is a disgrace. But I just want to
Speaker 1: read the explanation from the president of the White House
Speaker 1: Correspondence Association, who is like from Politico, you know, so
Speaker 1: presumably thinks of himself as a you know I call
Speaker 1: balls and strikes just right down the middle.
Speaker 6: Taste maker umpire.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, he said that it's not because Trump mad.
Speaker 1: It's actually the reason they removed her is because it
Speaker 1: was like part of his He kind of had like
Speaker 1: a vision for this dinner vision board. Yeah, yeah, Eugene,
Speaker 1: White House Correspondence Association.
Speaker 11: Sorry, are you a fourteen year old girl planning your wedding?
Speaker 1: Eugene Daniels said his group wanted to refocus the Ritzy
Speaker 1: annual event on journalistic excellence and wouldn't have a comedian,
Speaker 1: he said in his statement, he said he'd been planning
Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks to reimagine the dinner tradition
Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks. I want to ensure the
Speaker 1: focus is not on the politics of division, but entirely
Speaker 1: on awarding our colleagues for their outstanding work and providing
Speaker 1: scholarship and mentorship to the new generation of journalists. What
Speaker 1: it's He's just yeah, it's I like, I feel like
Speaker 1: this one he might actually believe this himself, that that's
Speaker 1: why he's doing this. But it's again, it's somebody who
Speaker 1: a sensive like tells themselves like, I'm a good I'm
Speaker 1: not for what Trump is for ye, but is just
Speaker 1: doing the thing to, you know, be complicit, but like
Speaker 1: not have to admit to himself or to anybody else
Speaker 1: that he's complicit by being like, actually, it's like more
Speaker 1: about wanting to focus on excellence as opposed to the
Speaker 1: politics of division. It's like, go truly go yourself. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my arm is not long enough for the jerk offhand motion.
Speaker 11: Oh yeah, I was doing that in my head the
Speaker 11: entire time.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 11: Also, the thing about it is like, at the most
Speaker 11: basic level, it's like showing up to your own roast
Speaker 11: and being like whoa, whoa, whoa. So you're saying you're
Speaker 11: gonna make fun of me mostly right, I think it
Speaker 11: should be even handed between me and the other people
Speaker 11: on the dais and like all the audience, because like
Speaker 11: that seems really unfair. It's like, motherfucker, that's the point
Speaker 11: of the roast. Yeah, that's what the White House Correspondents
Speaker 11: Dinner is. And the whole thing about being roasted and
Speaker 11: being good natured about it is you were in power,
Speaker 11: so the least you can do is take a couple
Speaker 11: of hajas, okay, and the fact that you're so soft
Speaker 11: that you couldn't let this happen. I'm like, this is
Speaker 11: so embarrassing. And then you're like out here being like
Speaker 11: you guys are snowflakes. Yes, you can't literally can't take
Speaker 11: a joke.
Speaker 6: Yes, they didn't have.
Speaker 1: The last time that they didn't have a comedian at
Speaker 1: the White House Correspondence Dinner was in twenty nineteen, when
Speaker 1: Trump was in office the first time around. So uh yeah,
Speaker 1: it seems like they're a little thin skin, did guys?
Speaker 1: The Friars Club roast should really be about excellence and
Speaker 1: friaredom Yeah excellent. What are the who has the best fries?
Speaker 3: Y as?
Speaker 1: What we're talking about?
Speaker 11: Pretty much?
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's take a quick break. We'll come
Speaker 1: back and talk Ken Grifty Senior, and we are back.
Speaker 6: So, the.
Speaker 2: The Blue Origin flight with the star studded crew including
Speaker 2: Katie Perry, Gail King, and Bezos's fiance Lauren Sanchez, among others.
Speaker 2: Uh gwent up up there into the Great Beyond for
Speaker 2: a little bit and came back and everyone is safe.
Speaker 2: Apparently this is the quote first all female flight crew
Speaker 2: in more than six decades to head to space. So
Speaker 2: I didn't even realize this is wait, so what was
Speaker 2: that sixty years in the sixties?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 10: Is this the same shit? Where like when they had
Speaker 10: the deep Water Horizon, like everyone, all the passengers technically
Speaker 10: have to be classified as crew to get around liability. Probably,
Speaker 10: I mean, I mean, like, in what sense is Katy
Speaker 10: Perry crew? Well, hold on, that's really unfair.
Speaker 2: Let me just tell you she was preparing Andrew, so
Speaker 2: please don't be flipping about this absolutely significant contribution to
Speaker 2: scientific research. In advance of the launch, Katy Perry was
Speaker 2: telling people she was preparing by reading Carl Sagan and
Speaker 2: learning about string theory, Okay, which may I mean she
Speaker 2: was crewe for a flight that was fully automated and
Speaker 2: only lasted for ten minutes.
Speaker 3: She also wore an eleven dollars setting spray to quote
Speaker 3: lock in her makeup during the flight, and she said
Speaker 3: it truly held.
Speaker 2: Wow. See yeah, and that's how I ad too when
Speaker 2: they go what was that? Oh, this is my brand
Speaker 2: that I just launched into space with me baby. She
Speaker 2: also held a daisy, I think to commemorate her child Daisy.
Speaker 2: So she brought a daisy and look, and now you
Speaker 2: went to space, just wandered. This is a quote from
Speaker 2: when she was talking about the lead up to this
Speaker 2: from Katie Perry. I think, actually, I'm really excited about
Speaker 2: the engineering of it all. I'm excited to learn more
Speaker 2: about STEM and just the math about what it takes
Speaker 2: to accomplish this type of thing. I was winding down
Speaker 2: from our rehearsal the other day and I I was
Speaker 2: listening to Cosmos by Carl Sagan and reading a book
Speaker 2: on string theory, and yeah, I was like going to bed.
Speaker 2: That was definitely like helping. I was Likethagoris Pythagoris, it
Speaker 2: says snoring. Parenthetical it goes on to say, but you know,
Speaker 2: I've always been interested in astrophysics and interested in astronomy
Speaker 2: and astrology and the stars. The first two were sciences,
Speaker 2: those were actual scientific those were bodies of scientific research.
Speaker 2: The other one that's a more vibe based thing, but
Speaker 2: connected to the stars. And I do respect that, Katy Perry,
Speaker 2: that you tried to elevate astrology.
Speaker 3: I'm glad she didn't go on a SpaceX rocket because
Speaker 3: that would be a firework. Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, oh, deep cut, deep cut, you know, they said.
Speaker 2: Gail King said oddly enough that she didn't sing firework
Speaker 2: or roar because quote, according to Gail King, she didn't
Speaker 2: want to make the moment about herself.
Speaker 3: But she did sing.
Speaker 2: She covered what a wonderful world for her literally captive audience.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, we are being destroyed by the dumbest
Speaker 3: people on earth.
Speaker 2: It's like really frightening.
Speaker 10: I mean, my favorite evidence is listen. And Katy Perry's
Speaker 10: an entertainer. She does not need to be a mathematician.
Speaker 3: No, but just go up there.
Speaker 10: Fas is the first and often last thing that has
Speaker 10: the word theorem attached to it that Americans learn, right,
Speaker 10: and that ship is from when you're twelve years old.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Heyl just said.
Speaker 3: Serious, that's when you when like dumb like stars try
Speaker 3: to like appear like they're scientific and smart intellect just
Speaker 3: be like yo bezos DM me. So you want to
Speaker 3: go on a rocket? I said, dope.
Speaker 10: I said, yeah, that thick.
Speaker 3: Yeah it was California girl in space.
Speaker 2: That's thick, dude, you know what I mean? Remember remember
Speaker 2: that track I did E T Yeah, I was et
Speaker 2: for a second. Yeah, exactly, I'm extra to restaurant. I again, great,
Speaker 2: I think, But yeah, to your point where y'all had like,
Speaker 2: there's just you can just be like, I don't know, man,
Speaker 2: gave me a chance to go on a spaceship. That's cool,
Speaker 2: Rather like I was in the.
Speaker 14: Lab fucking looking at all these theorems, some string theory
Speaker 14: I was looking at and yeah, exactly checking out what
Speaker 14: was going on with Mercury Rising.
Speaker 2: You feel me?
Speaker 1: Uh it was ten minutes.
Speaker 10: Here's a question. Do you think when Katie Perry covered
Speaker 10: One Wonderful World she did it in a Louis Armstrong impression?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I don't know. I feel like hopefully
Speaker 2: Gail King would have shot her dag rise if she
Speaker 2: started doing that, She'd like.
Speaker 3: You are going to do She's stuck there and take it?
Speaker 6: Do you think.
Speaker 2: I mean, like, if this is true, what the fuck
Speaker 2: is the Like I feel bad for the other people
Speaker 2: on there. We're like, is she really like singing up here?
Speaker 2: Like can we just can we just all appreciate that,
Speaker 2: you know, we're killing the Earth together and we have
Speaker 2: to go back down there. But I don't know they
Speaker 2: have to.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're all this.
Speaker 10: I mean, this is exactly like Deep Water Horizon meets
Speaker 10: the Barbie Movie. Like it's just like, you know, fake
Speaker 10: feminism whatever connected to the most evil people on Earth.
Speaker 10: And it's fine, Like they knew what they were getting into.
Speaker 3: Right, it's capitalism for it, it's pr for billionaires exactly.
Speaker 3: They got played and used, just like Bill mart got
Speaker 3: played by Donald Trump. Yeah. Yeah, you should just admit it.
Speaker 3: You should be like if it was me and I went,
Speaker 3: I'd be like, yo, a rich billionaire gave me a
Speaker 3: free trip into space or space ish is not space
Speaker 3: and space Beverly Hills. I was to space and I
Speaker 3: would never be able to.
Speaker 10: Do it, and I did it, and that's then it
Speaker 10: was dope and I I didn't fully understand the safety
Speaker 10: risks and I am fine, yeah, okay, And look I
Speaker 10: pressed a lot of buttons when I was in there
Speaker 10: and nothing broke. You know, there's no way that pass
Speaker 10: those passenger seats don't have a bunch of fake buttons
Speaker 10: attached to nothing. It's like when you're like a Star Wars,
Speaker 10: like you're in the Maggie Simpson driving the car in
Speaker 10: the opening credits of Simpson's Like, it's just fake.
Speaker 3: It's fake for imagine.
Speaker 2: All right, all right, all right, Sergeant Katy Perry on
Speaker 2: my on my mark, please hit the oxygen button. Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm ready, I'm ready, three, and.
Speaker 3: Could you hit the booster booster two, hit booster.
Speaker 10: There's no way that's not right. There's just a bunch
Speaker 10: of there's an iPad that beeps when you touch it
Speaker 10: and it doesn't connect to anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I I yeah. I mean like, but like it's
Speaker 2: wild too, because while there is like the like the
Speaker 2: Katy Perry's and Gales of it all, there's like Aisha
Speaker 2: bo who's like a former actual like not NASA rocket scientist,
Speaker 2: and Amanda Wind who's like a bio astronautics Like I
Speaker 2: wonder for those people. They're like bro I was going
Speaker 2: up there. She kept talking to me about fucking string theory. Yeah,
Speaker 2: what the fuck was that. I'm legit.
Speaker 3: It must just kill them, right, Like you might kill
Speaker 3: them as they're seeing as NASA is being destroyed and
Speaker 3: actual science programs are being dismantled. That Katie Perry and
Speaker 3: Gail can get to go to space on a billionaire's rocket.
Speaker 3: It's just like the pain, the pain that they must experience.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's just got to be like a level of disrespect,
Speaker 2: Like it has to be existential, like especially for these
Speaker 2: actual bona fide scientists. They're on this rocket with like
Speaker 2: these very wealthy people. They go up and like, wow,
Speaker 2: this is great, and they're like, you guys aren't doing
Speaker 2: nothing while they destroy science in America.
Speaker 10: Well, but I I do think that the evilist middle
Speaker 10: ground is. I look, I don't know these people. I
Speaker 10: don't know what they thought about this, but I feel
Speaker 10: like when I've seen other people in this position, they
Speaker 10: are always rationalizing like, yeah, they're destroying the space program,
Speaker 10: they're destroying Earth, but like this is my chance to
Speaker 10: like change their mind, right, And it's always like you know,
Speaker 10: maybe like the fucking NFLCIO speaking at the RNC guy,
Speaker 10: I'm just like, no, man, But.
Speaker 3: If Bezos gave both of you a chance to go
Speaker 3: on the Rocket Way to do it. Yes, I wouldn't
Speaker 3: advertise it. I got to be on with a lot
Speaker 3: of billionaires and I'm gonna do you all solid up there,
Speaker 3: I know moment, Yeah, but I just be farting in
Speaker 3: there and they'll be, yeah, I'm farting the whole time.
Speaker 2: They're not. They're gonna be like what, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know, myles, what was your resistance?
Speaker 15: I was stuck in so much, yeah, so much topps
Speaker 15: for two hours. They didn't know. They're somehow smarter. I'm
Speaker 15: sorry for that, but yeah, we will see.
Speaker 2: It's twenty two because like, like William Shatner went on
Speaker 2: one of those celebrity space rides in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2: His reaction, like Katy Perry said, quote, she felt super
Speaker 2: connected to love when she was up there. This is
Speaker 2: what fucking Captain Kirk said when he went up with
Speaker 2: Jeff Bezos. It was among the strongest feelings of grief
Speaker 2: I have ever encountered. The contrast between the vicious coldness
Speaker 2: of space and the warm nurturing of Earth below filled
Speaker 2: me with overwhelming sadness. My trip to space was supposed
Speaker 2: to be a celebration. Instead, it felt like a funeral.
Speaker 3: You know, I interviewed him two years ago, what was
Speaker 3: on his birthday for south By Southwestern. I think he's
Speaker 3: in his nineties. You know, he's an interesting guy, but
Speaker 3: he's he has a lot of age, a lot of wisdom.
Speaker 3: He's a person who actually thinks deeply about life and
Speaker 3: also at this stage of his life death. So we
Speaker 3: actually gave like a profound answer. And then you have
Speaker 3: Katy Perry astrology.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, hey, yeah, look, different strokes for different folks.
Speaker 2: That's all we Hey, look if you if you want
Speaker 2: to feel connected to love or the the cold, the
Speaker 2: vicious of space.
Speaker 10: I mean there is a little bit of billionaire space
Speaker 10: washing here too, because all this like we're going to
Speaker 10: colonize Mars like they're they are literally trying to make
Speaker 10: this seem like fun. And guess what, You're gonna die
Speaker 10: alone in the freezing cold that you've never like that
Speaker 10: is in our lifetime. Every Mars colonist is going to
Speaker 10: die alone.
Speaker 2: Will we see them get there? I don't know, will
Speaker 2: we see that?
Speaker 10: I mean I don't think the engineering currently supports it.
Speaker 10: But when we're old, they're gonna send some dickheads of
Speaker 10: some bitcoin dickheads out there to try it.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, my god.
Speaker 3: But you know what the funny thing is. I mean
Speaker 3: it's not funny, but it's actually if you study the
Speaker 3: broligarchy and what they are afraid of. They've gone around taxes.
Speaker 3: When you when we were all grown up, we used
Speaker 3: to tell like Gen X and Millennius, the only two
Speaker 3: things guaranteed in death in taxes. Yeah, but if you
Speaker 3: say that to like Gen Z or Gen Alpha, they're like,
Speaker 3: rich people don't pay taxes. So really that's guaranteed in
Speaker 3: life is death, and they're trying their best to escape
Speaker 3: death and they can't.
Speaker 2: Yeah they did. They ticked off the taxes box. Now
Speaker 2: it's the death box.
Speaker 14: Mm.
Speaker 3: They're trying to man, they're trying, really are That's why
Speaker 3: they're all into AI is of humanist because.
Speaker 2: You imagine they're like, maybe we go to Transylvania, maybe
Speaker 2: we can meet a vampire and get turned and then
Speaker 2: we can be you know, immortal like them, And it
Speaker 2: seems like a fucking fucked up life.
Speaker 10: But fine, dude, it's as good as any of their
Speaker 10: other schemes. Yeah, I know, right, like a vampire just
Speaker 10: as plausible as Yeah.
Speaker 2: Thus pivots from Mars to being like, we have to
Speaker 2: make real life vampires with immortality.
Speaker 3: And they only like they sell the vampires, like there's
Speaker 3: a tier of vampire blood. They're like, they'll find a
Speaker 3: way to capitalize the VAMPI Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 10: Are popping out saying it's actually a vampire.
Speaker 2: Yes, vampire yea. Actually we're gonna say it in the
Speaker 2: proper pronouncia pronounc.
Speaker 3: I prefer to be identified as vampire human. Yeah.
Speaker 2: They're like, oh, you could only afford the sixty year
Speaker 2: life extension of that vampire blood. Uh, that sucks. Couldn't
Speaker 2: be me, broke boy, I got I got three millennia
Speaker 2: on this one. I'm on that one. Uh. They're like,
Speaker 2: you're gonna see the end of Earth.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it's gonna be about the end of Earth. Yeah.
Speaker 10: Actually you are too.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Uh.
Speaker 2: And then finally, h just with the box office so mine.
Speaker 2: The Minecraft movie continues to be number one. Kids are
Speaker 2: still losing their ship in the screenings on the Chicken Jockey.
Speaker 3: Uh, kids made me take them both. My kids made
Speaker 3: me taken, and I felt so bad. I hadn't no
Speaker 3: idea what was happening, And then I saw this happening
Speaker 3: all throughout. They just threw their popcorn and I just
Speaker 3: said that, I'm like the poor, underpaid yeah teenage usher, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, who have to deal with this. It's like, bro,
Speaker 2: you're making more work for your friends right now, and
Speaker 2: what the fuck?
Speaker 3: I mean?
Speaker 2: It's wild to see how much copycat behavior like in
Speaker 2: the realm of social media, because, like you had so
Speaker 2: many clips. I've seen these kids when the Chicken Jockey
Speaker 2: part comes out. They all have their phones and they're
Speaker 2: almost like trying to look around to be like, we're
Speaker 2: doing the thing now right, Yeah, turn up even more.
Speaker 2: Very kind of surreal to watch. Anyway, Around four hundred
Speaker 2: and thirty four million has been made globally. From the
Speaker 2: number two movie was The King of Kings, which we
Speaker 2: have mentioned before that this was coming out. Maybe it's
Speaker 2: a CGI kids movie about a time traveling Charles Dickens
Speaker 2: visiting Jesus. Wow, it's sort of like like an AI
Speaker 2: TMU Pixar Pixel Yeah, we got Pixar, we got Pixar
Speaker 2: at home kids.
Speaker 10: It really looks bad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's bad. It looks like like shit. And I
Speaker 2: hate to say that about a movie about Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2: But the story the film's called The King of Kings,
Speaker 2: a story told by Charles Dickens.
Speaker 3: Why did they just do like the biblical version of Jesus.
Speaker 3: That would have been fine, The King of Kings, the
Speaker 3: story in Jesus. Yeah, I know it was the Charles
Speaker 3: dickenzie In take on it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, either did die. But so it was released
Speaker 2: by Angel Studios, which you might remember from twenty twenty
Speaker 2: two's Sound of Freedom, and as they say, it had
Speaker 2: the quote best opening for an animated Biblical movie, which
Speaker 2: seems very specific in order to give yourself a superlative achievement.
Speaker 2: But Deadline did note that I guess Prince of Egypt
Speaker 2: that came out twenty seven years ago is the closest
Speaker 2: thing that they're saying. I guess that is the one
Speaker 2: they're referencing.
Speaker 3: Because I saw them in the theater that was by
Speaker 3: dream Works. Yeah, yeah, I was like nineteen ninety eight.
Speaker 3: I randomly remember I got a re screening in college.
Speaker 3: So yeah, it took them twenty twenty seven to twenty
Speaker 3: years and not counting inflation to beat Prince of Egypt exactly.
Speaker 2: And again, you know, like the reviews are all over
Speaker 2: the place. One critic pointed out that the movie's message
Speaker 2: that quote it's wrong to profit from religion is somewhat
Speaker 2: undercut by the fact that it's a movie that's literally
Speaker 2: profiting from whatever Jesus to say.
Speaker 10: I know, I know, I keep punching. I mean punching
Speaker 10: right for me, but punching left from what people consider
Speaker 10: the center. Like every time fucking you know, a democratic
Speaker 10: democrat ish type person points out the hypocrisy of these people,
Speaker 10: it's like dog, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Right, this is they don't care. They don't care, that's
Speaker 2: not the point they get to say it, and then
Speaker 2: most uncritical viewers of it will be like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: self awareness not really for me.
Speaker 3: Well, like the look you all full that's sound of
Speaker 3: freedom scandal. The dude who was inspired on apparently is
Speaker 3: like a total frauds are doing the things allegedly.
Speaker 2: That ye are, yeah, like doing these weird romance scams,
Speaker 2: like we got to go undercover and maybe we should
Speaker 2: be intimate to make it believable that we're like whoa, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: this is all bad.
Speaker 3: But you know what I've been I've been keeping an
Speaker 3: eye on Angel Studios for a while, because I've been
Speaker 3: noticing they've been releasing these movies for a couple of years,
Speaker 3: and the first week in the second week are really good.
Speaker 3: Their low budget, they always make a big profit, right,
Speaker 3: So they have these niche movies, and I'm like, hey,
Speaker 3: this is like, if you want to actually make money
Speaker 3: in movies, you do these niche movies that appeal to
Speaker 3: either the Christian faith based audience, Latino audiences, and Indian
Speaker 3: South Asian audiences via Bollywood or horror movies. And now
Speaker 3: it's been fused with maga right wing politics, which is
Speaker 3: something we should keep an eye on. Like it's not separated.
Speaker 3: And if you think it's whack, I give you Sound
Speaker 3: of Freedom.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, I mean similarly to Sound of Freedom.
Speaker 2: A lot of people are like wow, Like a lot
Speaker 2: of people seem to have been going to see it,
Speaker 2: obviously because it coincides with Easter. But again, like Sound
Speaker 2: of Freedom, they pulled a pay it forward ticketing gimmick
Speaker 2: where allowed people whoever who knows, maybe their own like
Speaker 2: their own benefactor whatever, people are buying just large sums
Speaker 2: of tickets and people can go like go to a
Speaker 2: pay it forward sort of ticket site, get a code
Speaker 2: and then buy their actual ticket without actually paying for it.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, so the box.
Speaker 10: Office can be inflated by a yeah don't.
Speaker 2: It's like the same way like that people do that
Speaker 2: with like New York Times bestseller things like yeah, I
Speaker 2: bought sixteen I bought sixteen thousand copies of.
Speaker 3: It Junior's best selling book.
Speaker 10: That is the thing that is sort of heartening about
Speaker 10: this stuff is like because this is all they do,
Speaker 10: this thing, because this is what they believe all marketing
Speaker 10: is is simply using.
Speaker 2: Getting a headline the number.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 10: But the reality is it's like that just makes this
Speaker 10: movie less profitable because like it's all this all this
Speaker 10: like pay it forward, all these like unused payd forward tickets.
Speaker 10: I would bet money they are being funded by the
Speaker 10: producers of this film.
Speaker 2: Oh right, I don't. Yeah, or they or they have
Speaker 2: other people. There's like a network where some people, yeah,
Speaker 2: people that like yeah, dude, you can count me in
Speaker 2: for like a million dollars worth of tickets.
Speaker 10: Sure, but like the ecosystem is not earning money because
Speaker 10: they none have eyeballs and interested humans, which is like
Speaker 10: again cold comfort, But but.
Speaker 3: You know what they do, right, They then get to
Speaker 3: Trojan Horse in quote unquote mainstream media that we are
Speaker 3: much stronger than we appear, and the center right is
Speaker 3: forgotten by Liverpool media. And then you know, look, everyone
Speaker 3: talks about how they work the culture very well in
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four through podcasts and UFC and barstool. Sure,
Speaker 3: but it took them all that and this is the
Speaker 3: one positive Donald still barely won by one point four. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so they're always trying to inflate. I think their their
Speaker 3: numbers and their reafs more than they are. And then
Speaker 3: you see people like Bill Maher and New York Times
Speaker 3: always bend the knee, yeah because it's fond.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like those people are cowards. But the reality is
Speaker 2: they do not have the humans that they know. The
Speaker 2: numbers are not there. The numbers are not there, so.
Speaker 10: Again cold comfort. But like when it's time to measure
Speaker 10: numbers of humans against another numbers of humans in opposition,
Speaker 10: I don't know what that is called.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean the other thing they were doing, too,
Speaker 2: is they were doing a kid's go free promotion, so
Speaker 2: like an adult could be like, oh yeah, it's cheaper
Speaker 2: than taking my kids to Minecraft and getting popcorn in
Speaker 2: my really stylish haircut.
Speaker 10: And that's awesome too, because that just helps remind your
Speaker 10: kids that they hate you and you didn't bring them
Speaker 10: to me like bro I had.
Speaker 2: All my friends are talking about whether they're all showing
Speaker 2: their Chicken Jockey video clips turned up in the theater
Speaker 2: and they asked where mine was, and I had to
Speaker 2: show them a scene from the Resurrection and Ship and
Speaker 2: everybody with tears in their eyes.
Speaker 10: The Resurrection with Charles Dickenson.
Speaker 3: If I took my kids to King of Kings instead
Speaker 3: of Minecraft, I think my son would like there would
Speaker 3: be like permanent damage done to Oh yeah, he would.
Speaker 2: He would do The thing is like, Dad, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: call the city on you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, away at anything. But this would be like
Speaker 3: somebody's like, does Dad hate me? Why?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Why would you do that to me?
Speaker 2: He's like, well, Christian, why would he even do this
Speaker 2: to us? This is fucking what is this?
Speaker 3: It's mixed signals? Dad, Dad, we were fasting for Ramadan
Speaker 3: and now you're telling me that Jesus is God, he's
Speaker 3: the truthful And then Dickens is a time to have
Speaker 3: traveling prophet? What did you just take me the Minecraft?
Speaker 2: That's how he knew is the best of times and
Speaker 2: the worst of times. You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Why?
Speaker 10: What is the theology of Charles Dickens? Is doctor who
Speaker 10: at the Crucifixion of Christ?
Speaker 6: Is that really?
Speaker 3: Are you just making it up? Because the first time
Speaker 3: I've actually heard is that Charles Dickens is in this movie.
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, apparently that is literally what is to happen?
Speaker 3: I thought maybe he wrote a story, But is Charles
Speaker 3: Dickens here? I will read you Dickens.
Speaker 2: This is the plot. While while Charles Dickens is performing
Speaker 2: a stage reading of his novel A Christmas Carol, his
Speaker 2: unruleased son Walter, Oh well maybe one of your your pseudonyms, uh,
Speaker 2: disrupts the performance while playing King Arthur backstage and gets
Speaker 2: scolded by his father on the evening. When Dickens returns home,
Speaker 2: he decides, on the advice of his wife Catherine, to
Speaker 2: use Walter's passion for kings to tell him about the
Speaker 2: life of the King of Kings, Jesus Christ. Total youth
Speaker 2: pastor was like, you know who the King of Kings was?
Speaker 3: Son?
Speaker 10: I mean, it has to be that they count on
Speaker 10: their audience to be literally so illiterate that Charles Dickens
Speaker 10: is the only author connected to a Christian thing in Christmas.
Speaker 2: You know, I haven't even I haven't even ruined it
Speaker 2: by telling you who lended their voices to this film.
Speaker 2: Do you know who played Charles Dickens? Who voiced Charles Dickens,
Speaker 2: Kenneth Brana, you know who voiced you know who voiced
Speaker 2: Catherine Dickens, his wife Uma Thurman. You know who played
Speaker 2: King herod Mark Hamill. You know who played Conscious Pilot
Speaker 2: Pierce Brosnan. You know who played Peter Forrest Whittaker, Caiaphas
Speaker 2: Ben Kingsley.
Speaker 10: This is good because all this fake money that's being
Speaker 10: used to inflate the ticket sales does have to be
Speaker 10: paid as a percentage to things like residuals. So like
Speaker 10: as they scam the fucking audience, they do have to
Speaker 10: pay these people. Also, there's no sure sign that we
Speaker 10: are in a recession then a listers doing this stuff.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that means they have like a few money
Speaker 3: that they give, right, that's that's yeah. You'll get good
Speaker 3: actors and they'll throw money at them. And these actors
Speaker 3: have no idea what's going to happen in the future.
Speaker 3: Because Netflix is just like dummy down all the content.
Speaker 3: So like, hey, go for two days for Angel Studios
Speaker 3: and get paid to play Charles Dickens.
Speaker 10: It is yeah, it is also true that like the
Speaker 10: fucking yeah, like it's it's just worth it for them
Speaker 10: to do this, like they have to do it and
Speaker 10: something's keeping Hollywood afloat.
Speaker 3: I love it if they paid you both, would you
Speaker 3: do this and you do?
Speaker 2: I would have to be I would have to be Jesus, desh.
Speaker 2: That would be my heart, that would be my bargaining chips,
Speaker 2: and then I would crash out before the movie came
Speaker 2: out to completely fuck it up. But how much Hey,
Speaker 2: if I can get on, you know, in one of
Speaker 2: these freedom cities and be protected one of them freedom cities,
Speaker 2: I think yeah, I mean as long as not if
Speaker 2: it's a U seven part hell no, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 3: I'm about number two rules, Charles Dickens. You don't get Jesus,
Speaker 3: but they'll give you Dickens.
Speaker 10: Oh, I imagine how much is Jesus actually in this?
Speaker 10: Do you think?
Speaker 2: I mean he's in it? I mean, it ain't just
Speaker 2: all Charles Dickons just reading a bedtime story and Jesus.
Speaker 10: I'm saying. I'm saying, but he's like a like a
Speaker 10: side character.
Speaker 2: I feel like, Oh I forgot to tell you know
Speaker 2: who Jesus Christ was voiced by Oscar.
Speaker 3: I read that?
Speaker 2: What yeah?
Speaker 3: Oh man.
Speaker 2: Anyway, anyway, he and look just like Oscar Isaac bro
Speaker 2: he is risen. He is risen. Me up, dude, I
Speaker 2: can't handle this. I can't handle this Savior.
Speaker 3: I would actually, I would only do it if they
Speaker 3: made me be Jesus just so when like people saw
Speaker 3: who actually voiced the characters, they saw brown Muslim voicing
Speaker 3: Jesus and would just mess with them for a long time,
Speaker 3: right right, And then they find out Muslim is believing
Speaker 3: Jesus and it would just double mess with them, and
Speaker 3: then p Texas would need to get another copper tattoo
Speaker 3: on the other.
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