WEBVTT - How To Get Fired In 24 Hours (How To Mondays) 0:00:06.120 --> 0:00:08.360 Hey, BA fam, So we're doing things a little bit 0:00:08.400 --> 0:00:11.440 different this week with a bonus episode. We are going 0:00:11.480 --> 0:00:15.640 to be doing a series of how To throwbacks. That's right. 0:00:16.120 --> 0:00:18.520 If y'all haven't heard, BA has been around for a 0:00:18.600 --> 0:00:21.000 hot minute, and some of y'all might be overwhelmed looking 0:00:21.040 --> 0:00:22.840 at our back catalog thinking how am I going to 0:00:22.880 --> 0:00:26.680 get through five hundred plus episodes. Well, we have done 0:00:26.680 --> 0:00:28.560 some of the work for you by digging through our 0:00:28.680 --> 0:00:30.880 archives and on Mondays we're going to start doing a 0:00:30.920 --> 0:00:35.920 special how To series. So in this first inaugural how 0:00:35.960 --> 0:00:39.120 To throw Back, this is one of honestly one of 0:00:39.120 --> 0:00:40.839 my favorite memories from the show. I don't know if 0:00:40.840 --> 0:00:47.479 Tiffany even remembers this, but hilarious, hilarious episode on how 0:00:47.720 --> 0:00:50.479 Tiffany's I think it was an admin someone that budget 0:00:50.520 --> 0:00:56.880 needs to inc got fired within twenty four hours, and Tiffany, 0:00:57.360 --> 0:00:59.920 it must have happened the day before we tape this episode, 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:03.680 because you came in hot and predably to share and 0:01:03.720 --> 0:01:07.480 put her business out there. I wish we could tell 0:01:07.520 --> 0:01:09.560 you an update on what happened to this woman, but 0:01:09.600 --> 0:01:10.679 you have to hear the story. 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:12.600 Yeah, I wish her well though, because I think I 0:01:12.600 --> 0:01:14.720 had asked her for a very simple task. It was like, 0:01:14.760 --> 0:01:16.960 you just started, you know, this is your best foot forward, 0:01:17.000 --> 0:01:19.080 and it was the worst foot. She didn't do what 0:01:19.120 --> 0:01:20.640 I asked. I think I asked her to do like 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:23.280 a power point or something like that, and I think 0:01:23.319 --> 0:01:25.679 she said, like basically she intimated. I think that she 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:27.720 was busy or something. I'm like, oh, too busy for 0:01:27.760 --> 0:01:30.520 the job you just got yesterday. It was the fastest 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:33.000 hire and fire I'd ever ever. 0:01:34.200 --> 0:01:36.920 Ever, that's that on being decisive. 0:01:37.240 --> 0:01:40.560 Yes, so you know I've never been fired. 0:01:40.600 --> 0:01:42.280 Have you ever been fired that quickly? 0:01:42.840 --> 0:01:45.479 Like, No, I don't think I've ever been fired. 0:01:46.520 --> 0:01:49.800 I've definitely ghosted some jobs. Yeah, before I could be 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:53.360 fired minimum wage, you know what I mean? Yes, Like 0:01:53.440 --> 0:01:55.720 I think Cole's Department store might think that I'm coming 0:01:55.760 --> 0:01:56.840 back for the holiday. 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:02.120 I'm like, this be why hey, hire a teenager. We're 0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:04.279 so raggedy, But. 0:02:04.040 --> 0:02:06.520 Like, don't expect us to keep the job forever. Like 0:02:06.600 --> 0:02:08.480 I'm eighteen for me. 0:02:09.040 --> 0:02:10.600 And let's still got Mandy on the schedule. 0:02:11.919 --> 0:02:14.240 But anyway, if you want to listen to how I 0:02:14.280 --> 0:02:16.040 had to, you know, coick old girl to the curb 0:02:16.120 --> 0:02:20.800 with kindness, I'm sure take a listen and let us 0:02:20.840 --> 0:02:29.640 know what you think. Hey, hey, hey we're brown, we're black. 0:02:29.880 --> 0:02:33.720 Wait, that's like anyway, we're broad a mission, hey, Mandy. 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:38.880 I mean we are equal opportunity to all shades of melanin. Yeah, 0:02:38.960 --> 0:02:40.640 it's a safe space for your skin tone. 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:46.200 Yes, So I had to borrow somebody this week, Mandy. 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:50.720 Ooh juicy, do tell? And I love that, I know, 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:52.760 because that's so hard for you, I. 0:02:52.840 --> 0:02:55.840 Know, Oh my gosh. And I was really proud of 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:57.640 myself because it was a really good lesson. It wasn't 0:02:57.639 --> 0:02:59.960 one of my you know, like it was somebody brand new. 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:03.720 She literally only worked a day. Isn't that I've never 0:03:03.760 --> 0:03:04.600 had to do that before? 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:06.880 What did she do to get fired? And one day? 0:03:07.560 --> 0:03:07.920 I know? 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:10.959 Well, so I've been looking for and I hope she 0:03:10.960 --> 0:03:15.919 doesn't listen, and she does listen. Hey girl, I've been 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:19.440 looking for an executive admin for a long time. I've 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:21.120 got two women on the team that kind of like 0:03:21.160 --> 0:03:23.720 tag team and help, but they have other positions on 0:03:23.760 --> 0:03:25.960 the team. So it's like the three of us being 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:29.920 my executive admin who we named Michelle and so. But 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:32.240 I mean, and they do a great job but you know, 0:03:32.400 --> 0:03:34.480 like I said, they have other positions on the team, 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:38.360 so I really need someone dedicated to me. So we 0:03:38.400 --> 0:03:41.400 thought we found someone. She's super nice, she was an 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:44.640 admin before, and I just thought that it was going 0:03:44.720 --> 0:03:46.120 to be a fit. But I learned a lesson in 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:47.600 that I really have to kind of try people on 0:03:47.680 --> 0:03:51.160 for size. So I gave her one assignment, which was 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:54.960 to do a PowerPoint presentation. I gave it to her 0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:58.320 nine o'clock in the morning. Like the email system was down, 0:03:58.320 --> 0:03:59.760 so there was no emails that had to be done. 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:02.640 So literally that was it one assignment and then by 0:04:02.680 --> 0:04:04.560 the end of the day it wasn't done. 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:07.240 But that's not why it was like, this is not 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:09.840 going to be a fit. It wasn't done. 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:13.240 And so I gave her a temple and said, here's 0:04:13.280 --> 0:04:16.240 something that I've made, but it's not good, but here 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:18.600 are all the slides that I need. So I'm just 0:04:18.680 --> 0:04:20.760 showing you kind of like what I made, which is 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:23.839 similar to kind of what I want, but something good. Oh, 0:04:23.920 --> 0:04:26.040 I do Parapoint all day every day. I eat Parapoint 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:29.360 for breakfast, no problem. So by five I get a message, Hey, 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:32.960 I just shared the Parapoint. You know, the draft with 0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:34.599 someone on the team before I send it to you, 0:04:34.839 --> 0:04:36.280 And I was like, you know, it's five girl, just 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:37.279 go ahead and send it on over. 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:38.559 I'm sure it's fine. 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:40.640 Just so a few tweaks here and there because it 0:04:40.680 --> 0:04:42.520 was due the next day for me, I had to 0:04:42.520 --> 0:04:44.440 submit it. When I tell you made it, I had 0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:47.560 to open it three times. It was my exact parapoint. Oh, 0:04:47.680 --> 0:04:50.360 the exact like when I tell you the exact It 0:04:50.520 --> 0:04:55.040 was the same slides. Just hey, here's the new title 0:04:55.720 --> 0:04:57.520 and here's some new like the new bullets that I 0:04:57.560 --> 0:04:59.520 gave you, like copy and painte, like a ten minute 0:04:59.520 --> 0:05:02.160 copy and Paine job. And I honestly even that, I 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:04.800 was like, that's fine. And I was like, you know what, 0:05:05.000 --> 0:05:06.919 maybe you know I wasn't clear. I actually don't like 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:08.880 my paraporint because I'm not good at parapoint. I just 0:05:08.920 --> 0:05:11.040 think it looks so rudimentary, like what I've made. So 0:05:11.080 --> 0:05:13.080 maybe you thought that's what I wanted. That's not what 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:15.760 I wanted that I know you do a better job. 0:05:15.839 --> 0:05:18.960 Can you just send me like how you would do it? 0:05:19.520 --> 0:05:22.800 And she's like, oh, okay, well here's the thing. This 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:26.200 is like verbatim due to the current time constraints. I 0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:28.039 don't want to promise that I'm going to be able 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:30.800 to get it done in time. I'm like, time constraints, 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:35.400 what what do you I was like, well what, and 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:36.880 then gave me a list of things that she had 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:39.039 to do instead, not not list of things for me, 0:05:39.640 --> 0:05:41.560 but like list of things in her life that were 0:05:41.560 --> 0:05:42.960 going to take precedence that day. 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:44.560 Which is normally fine. 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:46.880 But this is a project I gave at nine am, 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:50.320 and I don't know that there's an easier, easier assignment 0:05:50.360 --> 0:05:51.120 than a PowerPoint. 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:51.400 You know. 0:05:51.960 --> 0:05:53.760 Yeah, I'm shocked. 0:05:54.800 --> 0:05:57.479 I honestly was like, I got that due to the 0:05:57.480 --> 0:05:59.960 current time constraints. I don't think I'm going to almost like. 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:03.400 Well I'm busy girl, That's what I read like. 0:06:03.440 --> 0:06:05.520 And I was like what, And then I said, you 0:06:05.520 --> 0:06:07.479 know what, to me, be fair because today was her 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:10.120 first day. I'm sure the other team members gave her 0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:11.280 a ton of things to do because they had been 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:12.440 itching for me to get admin. 0:06:12.720 --> 0:06:14.400 So I'm calling with other team members like hey. 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:17.400 I even asked her, you know, did my COEO give 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:20.440 you assignments to other people? Everyone, including her, said no, 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:23.240 there were no other assignments assigned, and so I'm like, 0:06:23.360 --> 0:06:26.359 so this is from nine to five. 0:06:27.760 --> 0:06:29.039 This is the one thing that you did. 0:06:29.120 --> 0:06:32.000 I just I didn't know what to say, and you 0:06:32.080 --> 0:06:33.599 know how you know, and you're like, I was like, well, 0:06:33.640 --> 0:06:35.120 maybe I'll give it another day, but you. 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:39.080 Know, and I said, Tiffany, this is not a fit. 0:06:39.480 --> 0:06:42.520 And old Tiffany would keep on someone that's not a 0:06:42.560 --> 0:06:45.480 fit for a year and be miserable because I would 0:06:45.480 --> 0:06:48.360 feel overwhelmed because I'd be doing double work. But new 0:06:48.400 --> 0:06:50.680 Tiffany said, you've been asking to grow. This is your 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:52.920 opportunity to do what you already know you need to do. 0:06:53.360 --> 0:06:55.240 This is not going to be a fit that It's 0:06:55.320 --> 0:06:59.560 not about the assignment not being done. It's the unwillingness 0:06:59.600 --> 0:07:04.120 to take take ownership of the misstep and then fix it. Hey, 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:06.560 ba fan, we're gonna take a quick break and we'll 0:07:06.560 --> 0:07:07.880 be right back. 0:07:10.400 --> 0:07:11.760 You know. We let her go. She of course she 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:12.160 was up there. 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:14.080 I I we did it in writing, but I actually 0:07:14.080 --> 0:07:16.880 had a call and the thing that kind of was 0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:19.280 off putting. She sent me a letter saying I feel 0:07:19.360 --> 0:07:22.880 like she said something like, I think it's unfair that 0:07:22.920 --> 0:07:26.280 the new girl got this assignment with these time constraints. 0:07:26.320 --> 0:07:28.040 The new girl. This is not high school. We were 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:32.520 picking on you and hazing you, like and I just 0:07:32.560 --> 0:07:33.280 like I thought. 0:07:33.080 --> 0:07:35.040 About it kind of school because you gave her a 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:36.960 power point, you gave her eight hours to do it, 0:07:37.040 --> 0:07:37.440 so like. 0:07:37.680 --> 0:07:41.160 Yeah, you didn't know. I felt so bad, Honestly I did. 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:42.480 And I still feel really bad because she was a 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:45.000 really nice woman. But like and that, you know, I 0:07:45.040 --> 0:07:46.600 was like, well, is there a reason why she's like, well, 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:48.040 I had a couple of calls with people on the 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:50.440 team and there was just a lot going on, and 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:54.120 I said, honestly, that was that was the lightest it's 0:07:54.160 --> 0:07:57.320 ever going to be as an adamin, Like two phone 0:07:57.360 --> 0:07:59.600 calls and a power point, it's never gonna get lighter. 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:02.280 Yeah, it's like, you know, you can handle it. 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:04.920 Yeah, And like I said, I felt so bad because 0:08:04.960 --> 0:08:06.480 I you know, it was you know, she just felt 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:08.080 like I didn't give her enough of a chance, and 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:09.960 I said, no, I gave you a chance. You're asking 0:08:10.000 --> 0:08:13.200 for another chance, and I just don't think that I 0:08:13.240 --> 0:08:13.800 can do that. 0:08:13.920 --> 0:08:16.200 So yeah, but it was really hard. I mean, I'm 0:08:16.240 --> 0:08:17.400 still kind of reeling from. 0:08:17.240 --> 0:08:19.160 It because I've never let go of somebody that quickly, 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:21.600 and it just felt really it didn't feel good and 0:08:21.640 --> 0:08:24.400 it felt really bad because I just felt like that 0:08:24.520 --> 0:08:26.480 I wish I would have vetted so I wouldn't have 0:08:27.480 --> 0:08:30.200 disappointed you know, someone that I know, she really wanted 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:30.560 the job. 0:08:30.640 --> 0:08:33.800 But yeah, so that was hard, but it was it 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:34.560 was a good lesson. 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:38.080 Being nice is one of it is it is a 0:08:38.200 --> 0:08:40.640 very important quality you have to want to work with people. 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:44.640 But I have also learned that hard working butt head 0:08:44.920 --> 0:08:47.400 is also super valuable every once in a while, or 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:49.920 just a hard working person who you know, forget if 0:08:49.920 --> 0:08:52.200 they forget, if you want to grab drinks with them 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:54.240 after work, like do they get their work done and 0:08:54.240 --> 0:08:57.480 they can rely on them like that is also really valuable. 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:01.400 Now like firing someone into four hours, that's pretty savage. 0:09:01.600 --> 0:09:06.120 But I know, but I have heard multiple times, like 0:09:06.160 --> 0:09:08.800 you need to. You make a mistake, you acknowledge it 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:11.200 quickly and you get out like don't And this is 0:09:11.280 --> 0:09:12.160 I mean, she caught you. 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:13.400 This is a new year. Knew you. 0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:15.880 You're heading into forty, like you said, wanting to be 0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:18.400 more assertive and stick up for yourself. And you know, 0:09:18.640 --> 0:09:20.760 too bad, she caught you in this moment in your life. 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:25.199 Then you don't suffer ridiculousness anymore. And I'm really proud 0:09:25.200 --> 0:09:25.920 of you. 0:09:26.160 --> 0:09:28.000 Oh my goodness. I was like, yo, even now my 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:29.079 stomach is like a lot. 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:33.240 Yeah, yeah, No, it was hard, like I said it was, 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:35.760 it was hard, and because like, yes, I've been in 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:38.480 situations where I've known that someone had to go from 0:09:38.480 --> 0:09:40.520 the very beginning and I've kept them for two years 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:43.439 because I just felt so bad and I just said, yeah, 0:09:43.440 --> 0:09:44.400 I didn't want to do that anymore. 0:09:44.400 --> 0:09:46.040 But so yeah, I was like, whoof? 0:09:46.280 --> 0:09:49.000 So I mean, but I learned good lessons about and 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:52.040 even honestly, I I'm you know, cause I know you 0:09:52.080 --> 0:09:52.920 are looking for writers. 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:55.320 I don't know, how do you how do you bet? 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:57.160 Knowing I thought I bet it till. 0:09:57.000 --> 0:09:59.480 Well, I don't know, Like I need some trips and 0:09:59.640 --> 0:10:02.600 like take you know, like about how do you really 0:10:02.720 --> 0:10:04.720 because people could say whatever, but when it's time to 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:06.800 do the work, how do you know someone's really going 0:10:06.840 --> 0:10:08.640 to do the work and work autonomously? 0:10:08.720 --> 0:10:13.079 You know, Well, we're big on tests. We're big on 0:10:14.600 --> 0:10:17.560 uh interview process, rigorous interview process, and then at least 0:10:17.600 --> 0:10:19.160 a test where you have to do the thing that 0:10:19.200 --> 0:10:21.120 we're hiring you to do. Whether you're a writer or 0:10:21.120 --> 0:10:23.880 an editor, there's like a very and I try to 0:10:23.880 --> 0:10:26.560 make the tests really tough because it weeds out people 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:29.760 who are just casually applying and it shows me that 0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:32.160 if you're motivated enough to do this, you know, on 0:10:32.200 --> 0:10:34.959 your weekend time or after work or whatever, you probably 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:36.960 want this job. And then once I get the test back, 0:10:37.000 --> 0:10:41.120 because we're in content business, I don't I used to 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:43.959 personally hire every single writer. Now I have editors who 0:10:44.000 --> 0:10:46.160 hire their own writers, but I tell them, you need 0:10:46.200 --> 0:10:49.040 to do a really tough edit on that person, like 0:10:49.240 --> 0:10:52.880 unnecessarily tough almost. I mean point out things that are 0:10:52.640 --> 0:10:55.280 that are that are you know that you could be better, 0:10:55.760 --> 0:10:57.480 that they could be better at doing, but really be 0:10:57.559 --> 0:11:00.320 tough on them because they need to know what a 0:11:00.360 --> 0:11:02.400 tough edit feels like, and you need to suss out 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:04.880 how can they take it because the biggest thing for 0:11:05.000 --> 0:11:07.040 me that turns me off from writers is when they 0:11:07.080 --> 0:11:11.280 can't take feedback. And the best writers often are the 0:11:11.400 --> 0:11:14.640 worst people to work with because they get very precious 0:11:14.679 --> 0:11:17.720 about their words, and editors too. There's a lot of egos. 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:21.560 So that's my way of like sussing out someone's ego. 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:25.440 I'm looking for like ego and can they take feedback? 0:11:25.520 --> 0:11:27.280 Can they take criticism because they're going to get it 0:11:27.280 --> 0:11:30.280 all day, air day on this team and they can't 0:11:30.320 --> 0:11:33.640 be super precious about it. And I feel like for you, 0:11:33.679 --> 0:11:36.520 like you should develop like what is like what is 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:39.439 the test for an executive admin? And can you put 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:41.640 And I always put a time limit on it, you know, 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:44.920 however many hours I think is reasonable to see if 0:11:44.920 --> 0:11:46.719 they can do it on time. And I think that's 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:49.600 important too. So if you came up with like the 0:11:49.679 --> 0:11:52.880 executive admin stress test, you got to do a PowerPoint. 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:55.760 You need to draft two emails you would draft to 0:11:55.800 --> 0:11:57.920 a client who said this to me, like create like 0:11:57.960 --> 0:12:01.800 a scenario for them. I did that when I was 0:12:01.880 --> 0:12:04.400 hiring my number two. That was a really tough hire. 0:12:04.600 --> 0:12:07.840 So finding someone who wants to have a senior role 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:12.800 but not be the senior role, and basically someone who 0:12:12.800 --> 0:12:15.040 can answer to it because what I do all day 0:12:15.080 --> 0:12:16.800 is problem solve. People bring their problems to me. I 0:12:16.800 --> 0:12:18.319 help them figure out how to fix them. That's like 0:12:18.360 --> 0:12:20.160 my main job. Now. What I did is I came 0:12:20.240 --> 0:12:22.400 up with the seven most common conflicts that I've popped 0:12:22.440 --> 0:12:23.920 up in the last I don't know six months that 0:12:23.960 --> 0:12:26.640 I could think of the really difficult questions I was asked, 0:12:26.640 --> 0:12:30.320 the really sticky conflicts I got into and I and 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:33.400 I literally wrote, here's a scenario, what would your approach 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:36.320 be and had them write a response like tell me 0:12:36.360 --> 0:12:38.800 how they would have approached situation. And that helped me 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:40.440 weed out a lot of people. 0:12:40.920 --> 0:12:42.560 No, I like that because I said that, I said, 0:12:42.559 --> 0:12:44.240 you know that what I should have done is that 0:12:45.160 --> 0:12:47.640 I should have done like a paid kind of like 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:52.520 two or three day work along so I can actually 0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:55.320 see you in action, you know, Yeah, because I you know, 0:12:55.360 --> 0:12:57.760 because because that was like it's hard to kind of 0:12:57.800 --> 0:13:01.199 tell because you know, everyone's amazing when you interview them, 0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:03.120 but like to actually see you when they're like, Okay, 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:05.560 the emails are coming in and could you confirm my 0:13:05.600 --> 0:13:06.600 makeup on Tuesday? 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:08.600 And could you make sure you know no. 0:13:08.720 --> 0:13:10.520 But yeah, I mean it was a good lesson and 0:13:10.720 --> 0:13:13.320 I'm happy for the lesson, although I'm not happy that 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:15.200 you know that I disappointed someone. 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:17.320 Yeah, I mean I think you learn from it, and 0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:20.560 I think you're right a paid like it's almost like 0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:23.880 having them freelance for a little while, which I think 0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:24.600 makes so much sense. 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:24.800 We do. 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:26.760 And by the way, people are listening and they're like, damn, 0:13:26.760 --> 0:13:28.640 this sounds like a lot of work, you know for 0:13:28.720 --> 0:13:30.840 a job interview. This is like a lot. It's putting 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:32.640 a lot of work on people. We do pay for 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:36.120 our edit and writing tests, so we can pay for 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:39.120 your time and value it. But it's cheap to pay 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:42.000 a few hundred bucks up front and then not hire 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:44.720 someone who will be a complete disaster later. You know, 0:13:44.720 --> 0:13:48.240 we can eat that cost. It's like my was it 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:50.400 Maya Angelou who said when someone shows you who they are, 0:13:50.440 --> 0:13:51.520 I believe in the first time. 0:13:51.720 --> 0:13:54.800 Ah, yes, yes, I know, I know, yeah I was. 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:56.439 I wish you could see my face. I'm like, oh, 0:13:56.640 --> 0:13:58.040 I'm like reliving in the horror. 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:04.400 I feel that I feel it. Well, that happens. 0:14:04.440 --> 0:14:05.040 What's up with you? 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:07.560 This is uncomfortable, isn't it? 0:14:07.559 --> 0:14:08.920 It is? It is? 0:14:08.960 --> 0:14:10.400 But you know it's also good because I know we 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:13.040 have so many, so many listeners that I kind of 0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:16.440 hit us up about like what can you do to like, 0:14:16.520 --> 0:14:19.120 you know, get a raise, or to negotiate or to 0:14:19.640 --> 0:14:21.960 you know, to find a new job. And so hopefully 0:14:22.120 --> 0:14:26.520 that is that's helpful that you know, folks are looking 0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:30.480 for people who can do the work with for the 0:14:30.520 --> 0:14:33.880 most part, minimal interference, that you're not going to need 0:14:33.920 --> 0:14:36.560 a lot of hand holding. And also too, I think 0:14:36.600 --> 0:14:41.120 that most people who are hiring or looking for someone 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:44.960 are okay with mistakes being made, but they're not okay 0:14:45.000 --> 0:14:45.760 with excuses. 0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:47.720 Yeah, I mean. 0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:50.600 And I also think you have to identify the roles 0:14:50.600 --> 0:14:52.800 on your team where you are will you do you 0:14:52.840 --> 0:14:56.160 will tolerate a learning curve, and you will tolerate mistakes, 0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:58.040 And there's some roles where you are very like you're 0:14:58.080 --> 0:15:01.000 like way less tolerant, and then you hi. It's kind 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:03.480 of like it's like when you identify what's the entry level, 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:06.120 what's mid level, and how much handhold they do I 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:07.640 expect this person to need. 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:10.720 Because like customer support, Like let's just say this was 0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:13.000 a customer support role. Honestly, it wouldn't have been a 0:15:13.000 --> 0:15:13.360 big deal. 0:15:13.640 --> 0:15:16.080 It would have been like especially if this person was 0:15:16.080 --> 0:15:18.800 like a millennial, it'd be like, hey, because we we 0:15:18.800 --> 0:15:21.480 we hire young people a lot, and sometimes they come 0:15:21.480 --> 0:15:23.520 in and they do a little misstep and but we're 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:26.840 here to coach and guide you and customer support there's 0:15:26.880 --> 0:15:27.280 a lot. 0:15:27.160 --> 0:15:28.480 Of room for growth. 0:15:29.040 --> 0:15:31.200 Or if you're on the you're on the social media 0:15:31.240 --> 0:15:33.400 team where it's like, well that's you know, that tone 0:15:33.440 --> 0:15:34.240 is probably not the kind. 0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:35.960 Of post that we want. But these are places where 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:36.480 there's space. 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:40.240 But but you know, like I cannot coach the CFO 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:43.760 like this. You have to know, like DIRS is going 0:15:43.800 --> 0:15:45.000 to need this paperwork. 0:15:44.600 --> 0:15:45.160 You know what I mean? 0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:48.600 Like there's certain certain roles on a team where you know, 0:15:48.640 --> 0:15:52.520 and my executive admin honestly is is I mean arguably 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:54.880 one of the most important roles on the entire team, 0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:58.560 because it is it's what keeps me to be able 0:15:58.640 --> 0:16:01.400 to like navigate all that we have to do. And 0:16:01.440 --> 0:16:06.280 so there isn't much room for not much room for error, 0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:09.520 but there's not much room for coaching. You have to 0:16:09.560 --> 0:16:11.640 come with a lot of the skill set already there, 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:13.600 and then we show you kind of like what our 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:15.600 specialty skills are that are necessary. 0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:16.520 But you have to come with a lot of that 0:16:16.560 --> 0:16:19.000 stuff yourself. Like I said, if this was customer support, 0:16:19.080 --> 0:16:22.280 she would still be here, but not in this role. 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:25.600 I was like, yike, I don't because quite honestly, it's stressful. 0:16:25.760 --> 0:16:29.200 I hired an admin a few years ago and it 0:16:29.240 --> 0:16:31.440 didn't work out. And the level of stress when I 0:16:31.480 --> 0:16:33.920 tell you it was like going to a therapist as 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:36.320 like it was so I felt like I was having 0:16:36.360 --> 0:16:38.720 a nervous breakdown, and I realized part of it was 0:16:38.760 --> 0:16:41.000 I was not receiving the proper support and. 0:16:40.920 --> 0:16:43.320 I was so overwhelmed. I remember even my. 0:16:43.240 --> 0:16:45.840 Business part of Jabrill he said at the time, He's like, Tiffany, 0:16:46.120 --> 0:16:49.320 I'm worried about you because he was in like Thailand, whatever. 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:52.280 He's like, I messaged you at four am. You respond. 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:54.400 I messaged you at one pm. You respond. 0:16:54.400 --> 0:16:57.040 I messaged you at midnight because Gabril's always all around 0:16:57.080 --> 0:16:57.280 the world. 0:16:57.360 --> 0:16:57.840 You respond. 0:16:58.000 --> 0:16:59.560 He said, I don't know that I've ever messaged you. 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:02.120 Then less six months that you have not responded within 0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:05.199 ten minutes. That worries me. When are you sleeping? And 0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:07.520 I couldn't because I was doing my job and her job, 0:17:07.800 --> 0:17:10.399 and I just was like the flashback to that, and 0:17:10.400 --> 0:17:12.320 I said, I can't go back there. Honestly, I'm trying 0:17:12.320 --> 0:17:13.959 to have a baby and I'm supposed to be wusa 0:17:14.160 --> 0:17:17.119 and zen and not stressed. And that's what I was 0:17:17.119 --> 0:17:20.440 thinking to myself, that like that me getting the right 0:17:20.520 --> 0:17:25.000 proper assistance is critical, not just professionally, but personally too. 0:17:25.119 --> 0:17:28.040 So all right, I feel for this first listener, she 0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:30.760 wants to remain anonymous, and you'll find out why. She 0:17:30.800 --> 0:17:33.119 has a question about her friends and traveling. I wonder 0:17:33.160 --> 0:17:33.920 if we know where. 0:17:33.720 --> 0:17:36.080 This is going? Eh? 0:17:36.119 --> 0:17:38.240 All right, so she says, here's my question. We'll call 0:17:38.240 --> 0:17:41.159 her Sarah. I love to travel with my friends, but 0:17:41.200 --> 0:17:44.159 they often tend to split to plan trips that go 0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:47.280 far outside my budget. My budget for trips each year 0:17:47.320 --> 0:17:50.000 is three thousand dollars, which, along with miles, is enough 0:17:50.000 --> 0:17:51.920 for two big trips a year and two to four 0:17:51.960 --> 0:17:54.840 small domestic trips. Right now, my friends are planning a 0:17:54.840 --> 0:17:58.120 trip that's totally nearly six thousand dollars, and they aren't 0:17:58.160 --> 0:18:00.479 interested in any of my travel on a budget hacks. 0:18:00.760 --> 0:18:02.320 They want to spend money on things that I just 0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:05.440 don't value, like a luxury hotel. This has happened before 0:18:05.480 --> 0:18:07.400 when I've tried to plan trips with them. I love 0:18:07.480 --> 0:18:09.440 them and I want to travel with them. How can 0:18:09.480 --> 0:18:11.760 I make that happen? What can I do to get 0:18:11.800 --> 0:18:15.280 them to try my idea of budget travel? Thank you? 0:18:16.640 --> 0:18:19.800 I really feel this is a really common uh. I 0:18:19.800 --> 0:18:21.879 feel like everyone in their life has has had the 0:18:21.960 --> 0:18:25.679 friends who want to go, you know, go big for 0:18:25.800 --> 0:18:29.280 a certain trip. You know, it's anyone who's ever been 0:18:29.320 --> 0:18:32.199 a bridesmaid, you know, the bachelorette party comes along, and 0:18:32.240 --> 0:18:35.320 it's always freaking awkward because every you know, some people 0:18:35.359 --> 0:18:36.800 want to go to Vegas and some people are like 0:18:36.880 --> 0:18:40.400 not financially set to go to Vegas, and yeah, it's 0:18:40.400 --> 0:18:42.760 really difficult. So first and foremost you are not alone, 0:18:43.320 --> 0:18:44.639 Miss Sarah. 0:18:44.680 --> 0:18:46.680 Well, here's the thing. All my friends know I'm cheap, 0:18:46.720 --> 0:18:47.760 so they're like, girl. 0:18:48.040 --> 0:18:49.520 I mean it is kind of like in your name. 0:18:51.480 --> 0:18:54.320 No, well, I mean it definitely has, because I would say, 0:18:54.359 --> 0:18:56.199 like my best friend Dream is definitely more so the 0:18:56.240 --> 0:19:00.679 fancy traveler than I am, so the true fizz. Drina 0:19:00.680 --> 0:19:02.879 and I really don't go on that many trips together. 0:19:02.920 --> 0:19:05.040 I mean now I'm a little I'm a little bit 0:19:05.080 --> 0:19:08.480 more flexible. But for a while we did it. It 0:19:08.480 --> 0:19:10.280 didn't mean we weren't friends. It didn't mean we didn't 0:19:10.280 --> 0:19:10.640 hang out. 0:19:10.680 --> 0:19:11.000 We did. 0:19:11.080 --> 0:19:12.680 It doesn't didn't mean we didn't talk on the phone. 0:19:12.760 --> 0:19:15.359 It just meant when I traveled. I used to actually 0:19:15.440 --> 0:19:17.440 used to travel every year with a friend of my 0:19:17.560 --> 0:19:21.040 friend of mine named Madeline and Madeleine had a similar 0:19:21.160 --> 0:19:25.439 traveling profile. Like Madeline was super low key, you know 0:19:25.640 --> 0:19:27.399 she was. It was all about the budget. And so 0:19:27.680 --> 0:19:29.159 I remember three or four years in a row, me 0:19:29.200 --> 0:19:31.320 and Madeline went on a trip every year, and honestly, 0:19:31.400 --> 0:19:33.080 Drena didn't feel any kind of way about it because 0:19:33.119 --> 0:19:35.160 she knew she didn't want to travel in that way. 0:19:35.560 --> 0:19:38.800 And then every once in a while, the way something 0:19:38.800 --> 0:19:40.679 would come up with the way I wanted to travel 0:19:40.760 --> 0:19:42.679 was similar in the way that Drina wanted to travel, 0:19:42.720 --> 0:19:45.760 and we would do that. So it's okay not to 0:19:46.560 --> 0:19:49.879 travel with your friends. It doesn't make them less of 0:19:49.880 --> 0:19:52.680 your friends. Like it was crazy because Madeleine actually lives 0:19:52.680 --> 0:19:54.600 in Newark, where I live, and when I tell you, 0:19:54.640 --> 0:19:56.080 I never see Madeline in Newark. 0:19:56.320 --> 0:19:57.960 But then once a year we'd be like going to Paris. 0:19:58.040 --> 0:20:01.720 This here, let's do it. See what's my travel buddy. 0:20:02.080 --> 0:20:05.800 And so I'm also part of this travel group brown girls, 0:20:05.880 --> 0:20:09.119 kind of travel group on a Facebook called No Madness, 0:20:09.400 --> 0:20:13.000 No Madness, And it's great because you can find other 0:20:13.160 --> 0:20:15.480 travel folks who want to travel like you. And I've 0:20:15.480 --> 0:20:19.520 met so many amazing No Madness Tribe members. So that 0:20:19.560 --> 0:20:22.440 would be my suggestion that you don't. If they want 0:20:22.480 --> 0:20:24.239 to travel lucks, there's nothing wrong with that. Let them 0:20:24.280 --> 0:20:27.040 travel LUs And if you don't, there's nothing wrong with that. 0:20:27.160 --> 0:20:30.000 Find someone who fits your travel profile and travel with 0:20:30.040 --> 0:20:32.640 them and then be friends with your friends. 0:20:32.680 --> 0:20:34.440 But at home and in person. 0:20:34.920 --> 0:20:37.880 No, I couldn't agree more. I mean, you're letting them, 0:20:38.080 --> 0:20:40.600 You're letting their habits make you feel bad for your 0:20:40.840 --> 0:20:42.960 Like I want you to stay on track. The fact 0:20:43.000 --> 0:20:45.280 that you have a travel budget for the year and 0:20:45.320 --> 0:20:47.200 you have it broken down by two big trips and 0:20:47.240 --> 0:20:49.240 two domestic trips. First of all, doing that for three 0:20:49.240 --> 0:20:53.399 thousand dollars, that's amazing. You should be really proud, and 0:20:53.440 --> 0:20:55.520 they should be coming to you for travel tips. Why 0:20:55.520 --> 0:20:57.080 wouldn't you want to save even if you have the 0:20:57.119 --> 0:21:00.240 money to go lux But you know, I want to 0:21:00.320 --> 0:21:02.200 keep the peace with them. I think you're better off 0:21:02.320 --> 0:21:04.919 just bowing out of these group trips if they're not 0:21:04.960 --> 0:21:07.560 going to work to you know, fit your budget. And 0:21:08.520 --> 0:21:09.879 I know I kind of get what you're saying, but 0:21:09.880 --> 0:21:11.359 I also feel like they're kind of not being good 0:21:11.400 --> 0:21:13.560 friends if they're not going to try and you know, 0:21:13.960 --> 0:21:17.240 try and compromise a little bit so that you feel comfortable. 0:21:17.240 --> 0:21:19.000 Why wouldn't you want your friend to feel comfortable on 0:21:19.040 --> 0:21:23.120 a trip. So I agree with Tiffany on that front. 0:21:23.520 --> 0:21:26.320 I recently I wonder if I wonder how you guys 0:21:26.320 --> 0:21:28.680 will feel about this, especially U tiff. So I recently, 0:21:29.800 --> 0:21:32.000 I've been on this whole, like pre baby bucket list 0:21:32.160 --> 0:21:34.040 thing where I want to do see all the Broadway 0:21:34.080 --> 0:21:36.159 shows and do my baby moon and all that kind 0:21:36.200 --> 0:21:39.000 of stuff. And I invited two really good girlfriends to 0:21:39.040 --> 0:21:43.240 see Mulan Rouge on Broadway, which I'm really excited about, 0:21:43.440 --> 0:21:46.280 and they told me, here's our budget, and it turned 0:21:46.280 --> 0:21:50.720 out tickets were above that price point. I personally kicked 0:21:50.720 --> 0:21:52.639 in more money so that we can get better seats 0:21:52.680 --> 0:21:54.520 because I am a Broadway snob and I only like 0:21:54.520 --> 0:21:56.800 to sit where I like to sit, and where I 0:21:56.840 --> 0:21:58.960 like to sit was just not in that price range. 0:21:59.000 --> 0:22:01.320 But rather than make them feel bad, like I had 0:22:01.359 --> 0:22:04.400 points on my card and I knew, I felt comfortable 0:22:04.560 --> 0:22:06.240 just kicking in more money so we can all have 0:22:06.320 --> 0:22:09.399 a better experience. And I just did that so that 0:22:09.520 --> 0:22:11.600 I can be happy they don't feel bad about it. 0:22:11.800 --> 0:22:14.959 I use my points, I don't care. And that's how 0:22:15.320 --> 0:22:17.280 when I've been on the other side. Doesn't happen all 0:22:17.280 --> 0:22:18.920 the time where I'm the kind of the one who 0:22:18.920 --> 0:22:21.680 wants to spend more. I'm like, okay, fine, I'll kick 0:22:21.680 --> 0:22:23.800 in more because I want you guys to come along 0:22:23.800 --> 0:22:27.040 with me, and you know, you're the people I want 0:22:27.040 --> 0:22:30.520 to see the show with. Yeah, have you done that before? 0:22:30.560 --> 0:22:32.000 Do you think that that was the right thing to do? 0:22:32.920 --> 0:22:33.000 No? 0:22:33.119 --> 0:22:35.639 Yeah, well I've actually had friends do that for me 0:22:35.960 --> 0:22:38.040 when I'm like, like, I have my my other fancy friend. 0:22:38.119 --> 0:22:40.640 His name israw and that's how he is. 0:22:40.720 --> 0:22:42.879 And so we would I would say, at least once 0:22:42.880 --> 0:22:44.879 a month we would go out to dinner, and so 0:22:45.080 --> 0:22:47.080 Cabrel would be like, oh, let's go here, and I'm like, 0:22:47.640 --> 0:22:51.200 Cabra the prize. He's like, I got it, and I'd 0:22:51.240 --> 0:22:53.080 be like wait. But so what it did, though, was 0:22:53.119 --> 0:22:55.880 that it showed me that there were some things we're 0:22:55.920 --> 0:22:57.199 spending a little extra money on. 0:22:57.240 --> 0:22:57.960 I'm not gonna lie. 0:22:58.080 --> 0:23:01.640 So Cabral has taught me that I'm still the budgetnista, 0:23:01.720 --> 0:23:04.760 but I'm the budgetnissa that will sometimes splurge on luxurious 0:23:04.800 --> 0:23:06.160 things for the experience of it. 0:23:06.480 --> 0:23:08.520 So there's value in both. 0:23:08.600 --> 0:23:11.560 So you know, and as a result, I have been 0:23:12.000 --> 0:23:15.080 splurged on other people because of that lesson. I learned 0:23:15.119 --> 0:23:17.840 from Cabral that sometimes it's okay to, like, you know, 0:23:18.000 --> 0:23:21.280 pay a little extra because Cabral is always, always, always 0:23:21.320 --> 0:23:23.639 willing to pay a little extra for the experience. 0:23:23.760 --> 0:23:27.520 And honestly, and it's about the experience. And it's also 0:23:27.640 --> 0:23:30.439 like when you're the friend who maybe who wants to 0:23:30.520 --> 0:23:32.840 invest more in an experience and you're like, you want 0:23:32.840 --> 0:23:35.040 to share the experience with someone. It's not fun to 0:23:35.040 --> 0:23:36.600 be the one who wants to spend money on a 0:23:36.680 --> 0:23:38.480 luxury trip and then you go by yourself, like you 0:23:38.520 --> 0:23:42.680 want to bring people along with you. So I think, anyway, 0:23:42.760 --> 0:23:46.040 that's not really where this listener, Sarah is at on 0:23:46.080 --> 0:23:50.199 the side of the equation. But honestly, if you have 0:23:50.800 --> 0:23:54.000 told them respectfully and upfront about your financial issues and 0:23:54.000 --> 0:23:56.280 they're not willing to bend, you're either going to have 0:23:56.280 --> 0:23:59.840 to sacrifice your own finances and your travel plan for 0:23:59.840 --> 0:24:03.320 the year to to you know, to match what they 0:24:03.359 --> 0:24:05.360 want to do, or you're gonna have to just bow 0:24:05.400 --> 0:24:08.080 it out, bow out of this trip. And you have 0:24:08.119 --> 0:24:10.199 to ask yourself what's more important to you, you know, 0:24:10.520 --> 0:24:12.600 keeping your own financial plan on track. I hope. So 0:24:14.280 --> 0:24:17.000 we're going on this luxury trip, or maybe you decide 0:24:17.000 --> 0:24:19.880 this trip sounds so phenomenal, you're going to take the plunge, 0:24:20.040 --> 0:24:22.199 go on the expensive trip, and then maybe scale back 0:24:22.240 --> 0:24:24.400 your travel plans for the next couple of years as 0:24:24.400 --> 0:24:27.200 a result. If that doesn't sound like a fair trade off, 0:24:27.200 --> 0:24:28.480 then I think you know what you got to do. 0:24:29.200 --> 0:24:32.440 It's just not always the most fun decision to make. 0:24:33.440 --> 0:24:34.720 Do you want to take one more questions? Do you 0:24:34.720 --> 0:24:35.680 think we have some time? 0:24:36.320 --> 0:24:39.360 Definitely? Let's take a question. Let's see does she want 0:24:39.359 --> 0:24:42.760 to be anonymous? Now? Listener? This is on from Instagram. 0:24:42.920 --> 0:24:44.919 Oh I didn't even mention to you guys. If you forgot, 0:24:44.920 --> 0:24:48.000 we're on Instagram at brand Andbition podcast. You can send 0:24:48.080 --> 0:24:50.080 us a DM there to ask your question, or hit 0:24:50.160 --> 0:24:54.040 us up via email by going to brandambispodcast dot com 0:24:54.040 --> 0:24:57.600 and clicking ask us anything. So those question is from 0:24:57.640 --> 0:25:03.200 listener Vanessa the mistre buy her bank account. She says, 0:25:03.240 --> 0:25:06.240 I have two bank accounts. One has a direct deposit 0:25:06.320 --> 0:25:08.560 and the other account I use for online bill payment. 0:25:08.920 --> 0:25:11.879 This bank charges a ten dollars monthly maintenance fee, and 0:25:11.920 --> 0:25:13.639 the bank says I can avoid the fee if I 0:25:13.640 --> 0:25:16.920 make a minimum of ten transactions per month. The ten 0:25:16.960 --> 0:25:20.040 transactions can be point of sale or online bill pay. 0:25:20.480 --> 0:25:23.280 What's the best way to make what's the best way 0:25:23.320 --> 0:25:26.080 for me to make twenty qualifying transactions that won't cause 0:25:26.119 --> 0:25:28.479 me to overspend? Because she has two accounts and she 0:25:28.520 --> 0:25:31.320 has to make ten transactions on each of them to 0:25:31.320 --> 0:25:35.399 avoid this ten dollars per month fee, she continues, I 0:25:35.440 --> 0:25:37.320 tend to use cash for a lot of my purchases 0:25:37.359 --> 0:25:39.679 so that I don't get carried away with swiping my 0:25:39.720 --> 0:25:43.920 card and overspend. I need your help, Vanessa. 0:25:44.040 --> 0:25:46.520 Ooh girl, So she's got two different banks or two 0:25:46.720 --> 0:25:47.880 different bank account. 0:25:47.560 --> 0:25:50.840 The same bank, two different accounts with which both will 0:25:50.920 --> 0:25:53.240 charge her ten dollars a month if she's not swiping 0:25:53.240 --> 0:25:54.560 her card basically. 0:25:54.280 --> 0:25:55.600 Ten twenty dollars. 0:25:55.800 --> 0:25:59.639 Yes, we just tell her to get out of that bank, right, 0:25:59.720 --> 0:26:04.240 just Lee, there's better banks, Vanessa, move from. 0:26:04.040 --> 0:26:06.720 The gets out upgrade? Yes? 0:26:06.960 --> 0:26:10.359 No, yeah, honestly, yeah, that bank is wild like which 0:26:10.400 --> 0:26:11.320 I mean, are they really? 0:26:11.359 --> 0:26:12.880 Because most of these banks are like. 0:26:12.800 --> 0:26:16.280 The worst to be all the way candid, But I 0:26:16.280 --> 0:26:20.240 think a quick Google search can show can find because 0:26:20.359 --> 0:26:22.040 usually sometimes a bank will just say if you have 0:26:22.080 --> 0:26:24.520 a deposit right, like I know, sometimes you can avoid 0:26:26.000 --> 0:26:29.000 that get if you get your your paycheck direct deposit 0:26:29.080 --> 0:26:29.800 into that account. 0:26:30.720 --> 0:26:32.840 Probably some of them have like you have to be 0:26:32.880 --> 0:26:35.399 a minimum amount, you know, if you have direct deposit 0:26:35.480 --> 0:26:37.280 up to a certain amount. She'd have to look at 0:26:37.320 --> 0:26:39.640 her bank's fine print because she does say she's using 0:26:39.680 --> 0:26:42.280 one of them to deposit her paycheck through and the 0:26:42.320 --> 0:26:46.560 other one for online bill pay, but she uses cash 0:26:46.600 --> 0:26:48.760 so much because she wants to avoid overspending. So you 0:26:48.800 --> 0:26:51.399 need to find an account that fits your profile. You 0:26:51.400 --> 0:26:53.760 need to find a bank that doesn't charge a monthly 0:26:53.760 --> 0:26:56.560 maintenance fees for keeping a low balance, that won't charge 0:26:56.560 --> 0:26:58.920 you ATM fees when you withdraw money, because it seems 0:26:58.920 --> 0:27:01.200 like you use cash a lot, and there's a lot 0:27:01.200 --> 0:27:03.720 of options out there. I mean I use Ally and 0:27:04.040 --> 0:27:05.800 the other day I just love going to a badiga 0:27:05.840 --> 0:27:08.040 ATM now because I'm like, yes, I will you know 0:27:08.080 --> 0:27:10.200 pay that three dollars fee because Ally is going to 0:27:10.280 --> 0:27:11.000 pick that up for me. 0:27:11.920 --> 0:27:13.679 I was just gonna say, I'm literally doing it. I 0:27:13.680 --> 0:27:16.720 did a Google search best free checking accounts, and Allies 0:27:16.760 --> 0:27:22.439 definitely one of them. There's Radius chime simple. These are 0:27:22.480 --> 0:27:23.280 so checking account. 0:27:23.640 --> 0:27:26.359 Yeah, those are a couple of new ones via or 0:27:26.440 --> 0:27:28.520 is it VO? I think it's v O v I 0:27:28.640 --> 0:27:30.560 A a v io. They are a new bank, a 0:27:30.600 --> 0:27:34.920 newer bank that's like really kicking the competitions, but with 0:27:34.960 --> 0:27:39.440 no fees and high high rates on savings. I'm gonna 0:27:39.440 --> 0:27:41.080 say you know again, I will post a link to 0:27:41.080 --> 0:27:44.639 a couple of places you can look for alternative bank accounts. 0:27:44.680 --> 0:27:47.280 Even I bet your local credit union has a better 0:27:47.600 --> 0:27:51.560 deal than the bank that you're with. Now, there's better options, 0:27:51.640 --> 0:27:53.920 I would say, get out of there now, versus trying 0:27:53.960 --> 0:27:56.120 to figure out how to like change your spending habits 0:27:56.119 --> 0:27:58.080 to fit their needs so they don't charge you money. 0:27:58.840 --> 0:28:02.480 Mm hmmm, because it is just encouraging you to spend when. 0:28:02.560 --> 0:28:04.040 I mean, that's the whole point they want you to 0:28:04.080 --> 0:28:05.480 do that. We're not trying to do that. 0:28:05.920 --> 0:28:10.239 Nope, A thank you for your question again. We're on 0:28:10.280 --> 0:28:13.399 Instagram at Brandonbision podcast or hit us up at Brandebision 0:28:13.400 --> 0:28:15.200 podcast dot com. Ask us anything. 0:28:16.960 --> 0:28:22.000 Yes, Now it's time to boost a break for all 0:28:22.080 --> 0:28:26.159 our family. Will you boost? Will you break? What will 0:28:26.320 --> 0:28:31.680 you do? Man? I feel like that was a good one. 0:28:31.880 --> 0:28:34.480 That was. It was on tune I think and everything. 0:28:34.680 --> 0:28:36.800 It was good. 0:28:37.880 --> 0:28:41.200 Yes, I'm gonna do a boost. 0:28:41.200 --> 0:28:43.760 I might do to a quick too, for quick too. 0:28:43.760 --> 0:28:46.080 For so one, I want to shout out to my 0:28:46.200 --> 0:28:48.640 workplace bestie. Who do you have a workplace bestie? You 0:28:48.720 --> 0:28:52.920 probably dream is your bestie and you work together. Maybe 0:28:52.960 --> 0:28:55.520 it's not a traditional workplace bestie, but I recently came 0:28:55.560 --> 0:28:58.800 across this the study by Gallup. Maybe it was a survey, 0:28:59.160 --> 0:29:02.680 but their research showed people who have workplace best eats. 0:29:02.760 --> 0:29:05.720 So having a best friend at work actually helps you 0:29:06.080 --> 0:29:09.120 do better over your whole your whole career. It's about 0:29:09.160 --> 0:29:12.320 having support, someone to bounce ideas off of, and feeling 0:29:12.320 --> 0:29:18.320 like you're more secure in a professional setting. I wholeheartedly agree. Agree. 0:29:18.840 --> 0:29:23.120 Like I my best my workplace, one of my first 0:29:23.600 --> 0:29:25.480 one of my best friends. I met at my first 0:29:25.520 --> 0:29:27.520 job in New York City and she has been like 0:29:27.840 --> 0:29:31.160 she was my lifeline for that job for so long. 0:29:31.240 --> 0:29:33.440 So just shout outs. If you have a workplace best 0:29:33.480 --> 0:29:35.200 you give them a shoot him a text, tell them 0:29:35.200 --> 0:29:37.720 how much you appreciate them, how much you love them, 0:29:37.800 --> 0:29:43.800 et cetera. And my second boost is gonna be I 0:29:43.880 --> 0:29:46.000 listened so last week, Tiffany asked me. You know, when 0:29:46.040 --> 0:29:48.040 someone asked you that question, they follow up with you 0:29:48.080 --> 0:29:49.560 on something that you know you should do, but you 0:29:49.560 --> 0:29:51.760 get a little defensive about it, and you because you 0:29:51.760 --> 0:29:54.240 know you haven't done it yet. And last week you 0:29:54.280 --> 0:29:57.920 asked me if I contacted my financial planner to tell 0:29:57.960 --> 0:30:01.480 her about, you know, what's happening in my life. And 0:30:01.560 --> 0:30:03.600 you know, I'm only thirty weeks into this pregnancy, and 0:30:03.640 --> 0:30:06.960 my financial planner has no idea. So I emailed Helen 0:30:07.080 --> 0:30:09.400 last week and let her know what was happening, and 0:30:09.440 --> 0:30:12.880 we have a call scheduled for next week to talk 0:30:12.920 --> 0:30:16.720 to I don't know why I was putting it off. 0:30:16.920 --> 0:30:18.960 I think I've just felt like, well, the money part, 0:30:19.000 --> 0:30:21.520 I got that down, like like as far as like 0:30:21.560 --> 0:30:23.320 a five two nine plan, I know what that stuff is. 0:30:23.320 --> 0:30:25.320 I'll figure it out. But the more I got to 0:30:25.360 --> 0:30:27.200 thinking about it then where I'm like, maybe we should 0:30:27.200 --> 0:30:30.720 get our life insurance looked at. We need to. It'll 0:30:30.720 --> 0:30:33.480 just feel good to get the financial stamp of approval 0:30:33.520 --> 0:30:34.920 from Helen. You know. 0:30:35.680 --> 0:30:39.160 It's like you said, sometimes like lately, I've been leaning 0:30:39.160 --> 0:30:41.840 into something that I call financial wholeness, which is like 0:30:41.920 --> 0:30:44.560 it's not just I've got money in the bank, you know. 0:30:44.760 --> 0:30:46.800 It's like you said, like I found, like through my 0:30:47.160 --> 0:30:49.800 own financial planner, like I'm severely underinsured. 0:30:50.400 --> 0:30:53.000 I'm like I need a secession plan. That did something 0:30:53.040 --> 0:30:56.360 happened to me? What happens to the businesses. So it's 0:30:56.400 --> 0:30:59.080 like I feel like, yes, I know I've got money saved, 0:30:59.160 --> 0:31:02.080 but that's not enough for me to have like a 0:31:02.120 --> 0:31:04.840 holistic view of like what I need to do with 0:31:04.880 --> 0:31:06.200 my money, like I want, you know. 0:31:06.280 --> 0:31:09.480 So that's what I like about, you know, having someone else, 0:31:09.560 --> 0:31:11.560 an expert, kind of come in and help me look 0:31:11.560 --> 0:31:13.840 at all aspects of my finances. 0:31:13.880 --> 0:31:14.960 So yeah, I'm proud of you. 0:31:15.480 --> 0:31:17.200 Yeah, I'm going to get that life insurance right, going 0:31:17.240 --> 0:31:20.680 to get my will set and that. Just thinking about 0:31:20.680 --> 0:31:22.840 the will, I was like, wait, who's gonna who would 0:31:22.880 --> 0:31:25.760 get the child? And then of course I'm hormonal, so 0:31:25.840 --> 0:31:30.080 I start crying thinking about us dying. It's really sad. Well, 0:31:30.160 --> 0:31:33.480 yes that is any other pregnant women listen, like, because 0:31:33.480 --> 0:31:35.240 I have confirmed us with two friends of mine. They 0:31:35.280 --> 0:31:37.959 confirm it's you have really dark and twisty thoughts when 0:31:37.960 --> 0:31:41.800 you're in your third trimester, Like I imagine our deaths 0:31:41.880 --> 0:31:44.680 in several different ways, like all the time. It's it's 0:31:44.800 --> 0:31:47.560 very sad. The hormones, man, the horrorone. 0:31:47.760 --> 0:31:49.680 Yeah, hormones are something else. I tell you. 0:31:49.760 --> 0:31:51.480 They're the devil, is what they are. Okay, you go 0:31:52.080 --> 0:31:52.640 booster break. 0:31:53.280 --> 0:31:55.800 I'm going to boost, But first I'm going to send 0:31:55.840 --> 0:31:58.760 a little shout out to Dream, my bestie. 0:31:59.160 --> 0:32:00.920 Well she's actually right now getting married. 0:32:00.960 --> 0:32:04.800 I couldn't go because Zica is real and my IVF 0:32:04.880 --> 0:32:08.680 doctor was like, sis, so we've come this far, we're 0:32:08.680 --> 0:32:11.240 about to do another cycle and I need you not 0:32:11.320 --> 0:32:15.000 to get Zica. So it was sad, but you know, 0:32:15.280 --> 0:32:18.240 I just I couldn't take the risks. So it's like 0:32:18.520 --> 0:32:19.880 I'm looking at all the pictures and stuff, but I 0:32:19.880 --> 0:32:21.240 want to shout her out and say her and her 0:32:21.680 --> 0:32:25.160 she's been with her her boo KB since they were 0:32:25.200 --> 0:32:28.480 like fourteen fifteen, and they're such a cute couple. They've 0:32:28.520 --> 0:32:31.200 got adult baby who's not a baby, he's four. But yeah, 0:32:31.240 --> 0:32:33.120 so they're awesome and just happy wedding. 0:32:33.160 --> 0:32:35.520 It looks amazing. My sisters are there. 0:32:36.720 --> 0:32:38.800 So and then I want to just get a boost 0:32:38.800 --> 0:32:43.680 to Today is my business partner Jabrill's birthday and there 0:32:43.680 --> 0:32:46.440 are some people in your life that are pivotal, Like 0:32:46.520 --> 0:32:48.440 they came into your life and your life is not 0:32:48.560 --> 0:32:51.240 the same, whether in a terrible way or an amazing way. 0:32:51.440 --> 0:32:52.520 And honestly, I have to. 0:32:52.440 --> 0:32:57.400 Say that Jabril is a pivotal he when I look 0:32:57.480 --> 0:33:00.560 back as to when my life took a turn, he 0:33:00.640 --> 0:33:01.440 is one of the people. 0:33:01.640 --> 0:33:03.680 It's like Jirell, my husband. 0:33:03.800 --> 0:33:06.920 You know, like my you know, I don't know, like 0:33:07.040 --> 0:33:09.680 my college best friend, you know what I mean. But Jabrill, 0:33:10.200 --> 0:33:12.600 my business partner, is definitely one of those people. Not 0:33:12.680 --> 0:33:15.720 that I wouldn't have been successful on my own, but 0:33:15.800 --> 0:33:18.840 the truth of that there is I didn't think I 0:33:18.880 --> 0:33:21.760 didn't think I deserved to be or that I don't know, 0:33:21.880 --> 0:33:22.520 man just have. 0:33:22.520 --> 0:33:28.200 This weird sense of overconfidence. Well they're just like, well, 0:33:28.400 --> 0:33:30.480 but it is amandy. 0:33:30.040 --> 0:33:33.160 When I tell you, like Jabril, I mean when I 0:33:33.160 --> 0:33:35.000 first met Dbrill, I mean I was barely scraping by 0:33:35.040 --> 0:33:36.280 and he was like, yeah, we're gonna make a few 0:33:36.280 --> 0:33:37.320 million dollars. 0:33:37.080 --> 0:33:39.920 And I was like, Okay, crazy person, I don't know 0:33:40.440 --> 0:33:42.600 what are you talking about. And now that's what the 0:33:42.640 --> 0:33:45.640 company does. And I remember him saying, yeah, wait till 0:33:45.640 --> 0:33:47.280 we get to a million dollars a month, and I'm. 0:33:47.160 --> 0:33:50.400 Like, that doesn't these crazy words and like November, we 0:33:50.440 --> 0:33:52.120 are on track to make that in November. 0:33:52.760 --> 0:33:53.400 And it's just. 0:33:54.920 --> 0:33:58.640 It's both definitely annoying that he's right, but also it's 0:33:58.720 --> 0:34:01.720 really he has really taught me to look beyond myself 0:34:01.920 --> 0:34:05.160 and my own perceived limitations, and so that's what I 0:34:05.240 --> 0:34:07.960 really like. Men in general just tend to think like that, 0:34:08.000 --> 0:34:10.480 it seems like, and so Jabrill always has like and 0:34:10.480 --> 0:34:12.920 so the other day, because he's already glossed over a 0:34:12.920 --> 0:34:14.759 million dollars a month and he's like, yeah, I can't 0:34:14.760 --> 0:34:16.279 wait till we get to our million dollar day. 0:34:16.760 --> 0:34:20.440 And I'm like, what sor what are you talking about? 0:34:21.000 --> 0:34:24.440 But now I'm deep enough in it that I know 0:34:24.600 --> 0:34:26.920 that that is more than just a possibility, we can 0:34:27.000 --> 0:34:30.160 do it. And so I'm just really grateful, not because 0:34:30.200 --> 0:34:33.880 of the money, but because Jabrill has helped me to 0:34:34.040 --> 0:34:39.239 unlock like the superpower in me that says that it's possible, 0:34:39.520 --> 0:34:41.880 it's more than possible, it's probable, and I put in 0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:44.839 the work and it's you know, we're capable of doing 0:34:44.880 --> 0:34:45.239 these things. 0:34:45.320 --> 0:34:47.720 And so I'm just grateful for him coming into my life, because, 0:34:48.000 --> 0:34:48.239 like I. 0:34:48.239 --> 0:34:51.200 Said, I feel like, if not, I would be Tiffany 0:34:51.280 --> 0:34:54.719 that still works equally as hard but doesn't get as 0:34:54.760 --> 0:34:57.640 far ahead because I just couldn't see it not for 0:34:57.760 --> 0:34:58.600 me anyway, you know. 0:34:59.200 --> 0:35:01.320 So happy birthday, Jabrill. You're the dopest. 0:35:02.160 --> 0:35:04.040 If you want to, you know, feel bad about your life, 0:35:04.120 --> 0:35:05.560 go ahead and follow him on Instagram. 0:35:05.600 --> 0:35:08.399 He's Jabril eight. It's a eighty eight. I think Jibril eight. 0:35:08.600 --> 0:35:11.360 He traveled. He doesn't even live anywhere. Jabrill like lives 0:35:11.520 --> 0:35:12.000 the world. 0:35:12.280 --> 0:35:13.960 He's really one of those people, you know, like the 0:35:13.960 --> 0:35:16.480 fake people you see online and you're like, yeah, right, 0:35:16.520 --> 0:35:18.399 you travel to all these different countries and don't really 0:35:18.400 --> 0:35:22.040 live anywhere and like have this amazing life. Now that's 0:35:22.080 --> 0:35:24.759 debrill in real life, it's so Jabril eight. 0:35:25.040 --> 0:35:26.960 Like that. Literally I could be talking to Jabrill. 0:35:27.280 --> 0:35:29.600 He's like, I'm in China, and then the next week 0:35:29.600 --> 0:35:31.400 when we have our team meeting, I'm. 0:35:31.280 --> 0:35:33.000 Like, is that a giraffe? Yeah, I've been Zimbabwe. 0:35:33.280 --> 0:35:37.800 You're like, what, Like, we all aspire to be Jabrill 0:35:37.800 --> 0:35:40.080 when we grow up, and he's so easy going and chill, 0:35:40.160 --> 0:35:42.680 but he's a beast in business. So happy birthday to you. 0:35:42.719 --> 0:35:45.000 My brother from another mother. I am grateful for you 0:35:45.040 --> 0:35:46.600 and I love you like direct deposit. 0:35:47.320 --> 0:35:49.880 No should we all. I wish we all had a 0:35:49.920 --> 0:35:52.120 jabrill in our lives. And it may not be a guy, 0:35:52.200 --> 0:35:54.960 but I'm telling you, my little brother. I hope he 0:35:54.960 --> 0:35:58.600 doesn't listened to this podcast. He is so obnoxious sometimes 0:35:58.640 --> 0:36:00.640 because all you know, For example, I got I got 0:36:00.640 --> 0:36:02.560 a job offer and he was and I told him 0:36:02.560 --> 0:36:04.000 what it was, and I thought I was, you know, 0:36:04.080 --> 0:36:06.000 being the big sister, like very impressive. He's like, You're 0:36:06.000 --> 0:36:08.040 gonna ask for equity or no? And I was like 0:36:09.239 --> 0:36:11.840 I was not. I was not gonna ask for equity. 0:36:12.239 --> 0:36:15.400 But me now you know, it's crazy. 0:36:15.400 --> 0:36:17.200 I remember the first time he did that. We work 0:36:17.280 --> 0:36:19.400 with the company. He was like, so we really like equity. 0:36:19.440 --> 0:36:23.360 And I'm looking at him like bruh, like your wilent 0:36:23.400 --> 0:36:25.000 and they were like, you know what, okay, And he 0:36:25.040 --> 0:36:28.319 looked at me like like Tiffany, now I deserve it, 0:36:28.360 --> 0:36:31.120 And I just, ah, can you imagine to be a 0:36:31.200 --> 0:36:32.840 mad I just. 0:36:32.800 --> 0:36:35.319 I hate it. But you need you need people with 0:36:35.520 --> 0:36:36.880 forget if it's a man or you need a man 0:36:36.960 --> 0:36:38.560 or a woman. You need some balls in your life 0:36:38.600 --> 0:36:40.600 to like push you in business for real, you need 0:36:40.600 --> 0:36:42.759 a hype man, you need a hype woman, whoever it is, 0:36:42.800 --> 0:36:43.719 to think bigger than you. 0:36:43.800 --> 0:36:44.720 I exactly. 0:36:44.760 --> 0:36:46.920 And there are definitely are women out there who definitely 0:36:46.960 --> 0:36:48.680 carry that with them, but I just for me, it 0:36:48.800 --> 0:36:51.560 just was difficult to see past that. So yep, Like 0:36:51.680 --> 0:36:54.399 I you know, if you're a woman who rocks out 0:36:54.440 --> 0:36:57.160 like that, I'm like, oh my god, Like what you know, 0:36:57.280 --> 0:36:58.800 how did you get untrained? 0:36:58.840 --> 0:36:59.760 Cause I feel like girls. 0:36:59.600 --> 0:37:02.320 Are talking to be polite and quiet and small and 0:37:03.120 --> 0:37:05.480 not to go for it because that's that's unlady like 0:37:05.520 --> 0:37:06.560 and not feminine, you know. 0:37:07.800 --> 0:37:10.680 And it's trying to get equal pay, like we can't 0:37:10.680 --> 0:37:13.160 even we can't even dream of getting like the dollar 0:37:13.200 --> 0:37:15.000 to the dollar for the you know, for what a 0:37:15.040 --> 0:37:17.560 man earns. And now it's like so thinking beyond that. 0:37:17.600 --> 0:37:20.000 You're right, We're just we have to We need people 0:37:20.040 --> 0:37:23.560 who think differently to rewire the way that we perceive 0:37:23.600 --> 0:37:24.840 ourselves beautiful. 0:37:25.760 --> 0:37:27.759 I don't know. I love the show. It just gets 0:37:27.760 --> 0:37:28.319 better and better. 0:37:28.440 --> 0:37:30.480 I love when y'all stalking on the street and you're 0:37:30.520 --> 0:37:31.800 not even like budgets anymore. 0:37:31.800 --> 0:37:32.640 They're like that ambition. 0:37:33.000 --> 0:37:36.960 I'm like, whoah, you know, I get recognized too sometimes, 0:37:37.000 --> 0:37:39.359 but please try. Could you please not catch me at 0:37:39.360 --> 0:37:41.200 like six o'clock when I'm sweaty trying to catch the 0:37:41.239 --> 0:37:46.919 train though, that's when it always happens. I'm like, yeah, yes, 0:37:46.960 --> 0:37:47.360 it is me. 0:37:47.600 --> 0:37:50.440 Uh. And then they forced a hug on meet. They're like, 0:37:50.600 --> 0:37:51.440 heard you hate hugs. 0:37:51.480 --> 0:37:55.280 Here you go girl, Okay, I feel bad for encouraging 0:37:55.320 --> 0:37:55.920 that behavior. 0:37:55.960 --> 0:37:57.960 No, no, honestly, I don't mind. It has made me 0:37:58.040 --> 0:37:59.840 like a more of a huggy person. And they're like 0:38:00.040 --> 0:38:02.040 one from Andy. I'm like, she's not getting this thing.