1 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: Hey, BA fam, So we're doing things a little bit 2 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: different this week with a bonus episode. We are going 3 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: to be doing a series of how To throwbacks. That's right. 4 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: If y'all haven't heard, BA has been around for a 5 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: hot minute, and some of y'all might be overwhelmed looking 6 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: at our back catalog thinking how am I going to 7 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: get through five hundred plus episodes. Well, we have done 8 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: some of the work for you by digging through our 9 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: archives and on Mondays we're going to start doing a 10 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 1: special how To series. So in this first inaugural how 11 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: To throw Back, this is one of honestly one of 12 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: my favorite memories from the show. I don't know if 13 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: Tiffany even remembers this, but hilarious, hilarious episode on how 14 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 1: Tiffany's I think it was an admin someone that budget 15 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: needs to inc got fired within twenty four hours, and Tiffany, 16 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: it must have happened the day before we tape this episode, 17 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: because you came in hot and predably to share and 18 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: put her business out there. I wish we could tell 19 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: you an update on what happened to this woman, but 20 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 1: you have to hear the story. 21 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wish her well though, because I think I 22 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: had asked her for a very simple task. It was like, 23 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 2: you just started, you know, this is your best foot forward, 24 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 2: and it was the worst foot. She didn't do what 25 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 2: I asked. I think I asked her to do like 26 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 2: a power point or something like that, and I think 27 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 2: she said, like basically she intimated. I think that she 28 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 2: was busy or something. I'm like, oh, too busy for 29 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 2: the job you just got yesterday. It was the fastest 30 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 2: hire and fire I'd ever ever. 31 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: Ever, that's that on being decisive. 32 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 3: Yes, so you know I've never been fired. 33 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: Have you ever been fired that quickly? 34 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,479 Speaker 3: Like, No, I don't think I've ever been fired. 35 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: I've definitely ghosted some jobs. Yeah, before I could be 36 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: fired minimum wage, you know what I mean? Yes, Like 37 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: I think Cole's Department store might think that I'm coming 38 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: back for the holiday. 39 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 3: I'm like, this be why hey, hire a teenager. We're 40 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,279 Speaker 3: so raggedy, But. 41 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: Like, don't expect us to keep the job forever. Like 42 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: I'm eighteen for me. 43 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 3: And let's still got Mandy on the schedule. 44 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 2: But anyway, if you want to listen to how I 45 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 2: had to, you know, coick old girl to the curb 46 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 2: with kindness, I'm sure take a listen and let us 47 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 2: know what you think. Hey, hey, hey we're brown, we're black. 48 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 3: Wait, that's like anyway, we're broad a mission, hey, Mandy. 49 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: I mean we are equal opportunity to all shades of melanin. Yeah, 50 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 1: it's a safe space for your skin tone. 51 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 3: Yes, So I had to borrow somebody this week, Mandy. 52 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: Ooh juicy, do tell? And I love that, I know, 53 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: because that's so hard for you, I. 54 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 2: Know, Oh my gosh. And I was really proud of 55 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 2: myself because it was a really good lesson. It wasn't 56 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 2: one of my you know, like it was somebody brand new. 57 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 2: She literally only worked a day. Isn't that I've never 58 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 2: had to do that before? 59 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: What did she do to get fired? And one day? 60 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 3: I know? 61 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,959 Speaker 2: Well, so I've been looking for and I hope she 62 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 2: doesn't listen, and she does listen. Hey girl, I've been 63 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 2: looking for an executive admin for a long time. I've 64 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 2: got two women on the team that kind of like 65 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 2: tag team and help, but they have other positions on 66 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 2: the team. So it's like the three of us being 67 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 2: my executive admin who we named Michelle and so. But 68 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 2: I mean, and they do a great job but you know, 69 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 2: like I said, they have other positions on the team, 70 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 2: so I really need someone dedicated to me. So we 71 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 2: thought we found someone. She's super nice, she was an 72 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 2: admin before, and I just thought that it was going 73 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 2: to be a fit. But I learned a lesson in 74 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 2: that I really have to kind of try people on 75 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 2: for size. So I gave her one assignment, which was 76 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 2: to do a PowerPoint presentation. I gave it to her 77 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 2: nine o'clock in the morning. Like the email system was down, 78 00:03:58,320 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 2: so there was no emails that had to be done. 79 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 2: So literally that was it one assignment and then by 80 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 2: the end of the day it wasn't done. 81 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 3: But that's not why it was like, this is not 82 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 3: going to be a fit. It wasn't done. 83 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 2: And so I gave her a temple and said, here's 84 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 2: something that I've made, but it's not good, but here 85 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 2: are all the slides that I need. So I'm just 86 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 2: showing you kind of like what I made, which is 87 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 2: similar to kind of what I want, but something good. Oh, 88 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 2: I do Parapoint all day every day. I eat Parapoint 89 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 2: for breakfast, no problem. So by five I get a message, Hey, 90 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 2: I just shared the Parapoint. You know, the draft with 91 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 2: someone on the team before I send it to you, 92 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 2: And I was like, you know, it's five girl, just 93 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 2: go ahead and send it on over. 94 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:38,559 Speaker 3: I'm sure it's fine. 95 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 2: Just so a few tweaks here and there because it 96 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 2: was due the next day for me, I had to 97 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 2: submit it. When I tell you made it, I had 98 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 2: to open it three times. It was my exact parapoint. Oh, 99 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 2: the exact like when I tell you the exact It 100 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 2: was the same slides. Just hey, here's the new title 101 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 2: and here's some new like the new bullets that I 102 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 2: gave you, like copy and painte, like a ten minute 103 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 2: copy and Paine job. And I honestly even that, I 104 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 2: was like, that's fine. And I was like, you know what, 105 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 2: maybe you know I wasn't clear. I actually don't like 106 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 2: my paraporint because I'm not good at parapoint. I just 107 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 2: think it looks so rudimentary, like what I've made. So 108 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 2: maybe you thought that's what I wanted. That's not what 109 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 2: I wanted that I know you do a better job. 110 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 2: Can you just send me like how you would do it? 111 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 2: And she's like, oh, okay, well here's the thing. This 112 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 2: is like verbatim due to the current time constraints. I 113 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 2: don't want to promise that I'm going to be able 114 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 2: to get it done in time. I'm like, time constraints, 115 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 2: what what do you I was like, well what, and 116 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 2: then gave me a list of things that she had 117 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 2: to do instead, not not list of things for me, 118 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 2: but like list of things in her life that were 119 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 2: going to take precedence that day. 120 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 3: Which is normally fine. 121 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 2: But this is a project I gave at nine am, 122 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 2: and I don't know that there's an easier, easier assignment 123 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 2: than a PowerPoint. 124 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 3: You know. 125 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm shocked. 126 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 2: I honestly was like, I got that due to the 127 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 2: current time constraints. I don't think I'm going to almost like. 128 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 3: Well I'm busy girl, That's what I read like. 129 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 2: And I was like what, And then I said, you 130 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 2: know what, to me, be fair because today was her 131 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 2: first day. I'm sure the other team members gave her 132 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 2: a ton of things to do because they had been 133 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 2: itching for me to get admin. 134 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 3: So I'm calling with other team members like hey. 135 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 2: I even asked her, you know, did my COEO give 136 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 2: you assignments to other people? Everyone, including her, said no, 137 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 2: there were no other assignments assigned, and so I'm like, 138 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,359 Speaker 2: so this is from nine to five. 139 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 3: This is the one thing that you did. 140 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 2: I just I didn't know what to say, and you 141 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 2: know how you know, and you're like, I was like, well, 142 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 2: maybe I'll give it another day, but you. 143 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 3: Know, and I said, Tiffany, this is not a fit. 144 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 2: And old Tiffany would keep on someone that's not a 145 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 2: fit for a year and be miserable because I would 146 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 2: feel overwhelmed because I'd be doing double work. But new 147 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 2: Tiffany said, you've been asking to grow. This is your 148 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 2: opportunity to do what you already know you need to do. 149 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 2: This is not going to be a fit that It's 150 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 2: not about the assignment not being done. It's the unwillingness 151 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 2: to take take ownership of the misstep and then fix it. Hey, 152 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 2: ba fan, we're gonna take a quick break and we'll 153 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 2: be right back. 154 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 3: You know. We let her go. She of course she 155 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 3: was up there. 156 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 2: I I we did it in writing, but I actually 157 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 2: had a call and the thing that kind of was 158 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 2: off putting. She sent me a letter saying I feel 159 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 2: like she said something like, I think it's unfair that 160 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 2: the new girl got this assignment with these time constraints. 161 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 3: The new girl. This is not high school. We were 162 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 3: picking on you and hazing you, like and I just 163 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 3: like I thought. 164 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: About it kind of school because you gave her a 165 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: power point, you gave her eight hours to do it, 166 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: so like. 167 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, you didn't know. I felt so bad, Honestly I did. 168 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 2: And I still feel really bad because she was a 169 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 2: really nice woman. But like and that, you know, I 170 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 2: was like, well, is there a reason why she's like, well, 171 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 2: I had a couple of calls with people on the 172 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 2: team and there was just a lot going on, and 173 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 2: I said, honestly, that was that was the lightest it's 174 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 2: ever going to be as an adamin, Like two phone 175 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 2: calls and a power point, it's never gonna get lighter. 176 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, you know, you can handle it. 177 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, And like I said, I felt so bad because 178 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 2: I you know, it was you know, she just felt 179 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 2: like I didn't give her enough of a chance, and 180 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 2: I said, no, I gave you a chance. You're asking 181 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 2: for another chance, and I just don't think that I 182 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 2: can do that. 183 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 3: So yeah, but it was really hard. I mean, I'm 184 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 3: still kind of reeling from. 185 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 2: It because I've never let go of somebody that quickly, 186 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 2: and it just felt really it didn't feel good and 187 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 2: it felt really bad because I just felt like that 188 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 2: I wish I would have vetted so I wouldn't have 189 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 2: disappointed you know, someone that I know, she really wanted 190 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 2: the job. 191 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 3: But yeah, so that was hard, but it was it 192 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 3: was a good lesson. 193 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: Being nice is one of it is it is a 194 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: very important quality you have to want to work with people. 195 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: But I have also learned that hard working butt head 196 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: is also super valuable every once in a while, or 197 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: just a hard working person who you know, forget if 198 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 1: they forget, if you want to grab drinks with them 199 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: after work, like do they get their work done and 200 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: they can rely on them like that is also really valuable. 201 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: Now like firing someone into four hours, that's pretty savage. 202 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: But I know, but I have heard multiple times, like 203 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: you need to. You make a mistake, you acknowledge it 204 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 1: quickly and you get out like don't And this is 205 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: I mean, she caught you. 206 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 3: This is a new year. Knew you. 207 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: You're heading into forty, like you said, wanting to be 208 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: more assertive and stick up for yourself. And you know, 209 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: too bad, she caught you in this moment in your life. 210 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 1: Then you don't suffer ridiculousness anymore. And I'm really proud 211 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: of you. 212 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 3: Oh my goodness. I was like, yo, even now my 213 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 3: stomach is like a lot. 214 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, No, it was hard, like I said it was, 215 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 2: it was hard, and because like, yes, I've been in 216 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 2: situations where I've known that someone had to go from 217 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 2: the very beginning and I've kept them for two years 218 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,439 Speaker 2: because I just felt so bad and I just said, yeah, 219 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 2: I didn't want to do that anymore. 220 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 3: But so yeah, I was like, whoof? 221 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 2: So I mean, but I learned good lessons about and 222 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 2: even honestly, I I'm you know, cause I know you 223 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 2: are looking for writers. 224 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 3: I don't know, how do you how do you bet? 225 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 3: Knowing I thought I bet it till. 226 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know, Like I need some trips and 227 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 2: like take you know, like about how do you really 228 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 2: because people could say whatever, but when it's time to 229 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 2: do the work, how do you know someone's really going 230 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 2: to do the work and work autonomously? 231 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 1: You know, Well, we're big on tests. We're big on 232 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 1: uh interview process, rigorous interview process, and then at least 233 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: a test where you have to do the thing that 234 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: we're hiring you to do. Whether you're a writer or 235 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: an editor, there's like a very and I try to 236 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 1: make the tests really tough because it weeds out people 237 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: who are just casually applying and it shows me that 238 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: if you're motivated enough to do this, you know, on 239 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,959 Speaker 1: your weekend time or after work or whatever, you probably 240 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 1: want this job. And then once I get the test back, 241 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: because we're in content business, I don't I used to 242 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,959 Speaker 1: personally hire every single writer. Now I have editors who 243 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: hire their own writers, but I tell them, you need 244 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: to do a really tough edit on that person, like 245 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: unnecessarily tough almost. I mean point out things that are 246 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: that are that are you know that you could be better, 247 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: that they could be better at doing, but really be 248 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: tough on them because they need to know what a 249 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: tough edit feels like, and you need to suss out 250 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: how can they take it because the biggest thing for 251 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: me that turns me off from writers is when they 252 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: can't take feedback. And the best writers often are the 253 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: worst people to work with because they get very precious 254 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: about their words, and editors too. There's a lot of egos. 255 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: So that's my way of like sussing out someone's ego. 256 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: I'm looking for like ego and can they take feedback? 257 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: Can they take criticism because they're going to get it 258 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: all day, air day on this team and they can't 259 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: be super precious about it. And I feel like for you, 260 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: like you should develop like what is like what is 261 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,439 Speaker 1: the test for an executive admin? And can you put 262 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: And I always put a time limit on it, you know, 263 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: however many hours I think is reasonable to see if 264 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:46,719 Speaker 1: they can do it on time. And I think that's 265 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: important too. So if you came up with like the 266 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: executive admin stress test, you got to do a PowerPoint. 267 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: You need to draft two emails you would draft to 268 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: a client who said this to me, like create like 269 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: a scenario for them. I did that when I was 270 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: hiring my number two. That was a really tough hire. 271 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 1: So finding someone who wants to have a senior role 272 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: but not be the senior role, and basically someone who 273 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: can answer to it because what I do all day 274 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: is problem solve. People bring their problems to me. I 275 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:18,319 Speaker 1: help them figure out how to fix them. That's like 276 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: my main job. Now. What I did is I came 277 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: up with the seven most common conflicts that I've popped 278 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: up in the last I don't know six months that 279 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: I could think of the really difficult questions I was asked, 280 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 1: the really sticky conflicts I got into and I and 281 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: I literally wrote, here's a scenario, what would your approach 282 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 1: be and had them write a response like tell me 283 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: how they would have approached situation. And that helped me 284 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 1: weed out a lot of people. 285 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 2: No, I like that because I said that, I said, 286 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 2: you know that what I should have done is that 287 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 2: I should have done like a paid kind of like 288 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 2: two or three day work along so I can actually 289 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 2: see you in action, you know, Yeah, because I you know, 290 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 2: because because that was like it's hard to kind of 291 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:01,199 Speaker 2: tell because you know, everyone's amazing when you interview them, 292 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 2: but like to actually see you when they're like, Okay, 293 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 2: the emails are coming in and could you confirm my 294 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 2: makeup on Tuesday? 295 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 3: And could you make sure you know no. 296 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean it was a good lesson and 297 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 2: I'm happy for the lesson, although I'm not happy that 298 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 2: you know that I disappointed someone. 299 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think you learn from it, and 300 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 1: I think you're right a paid like it's almost like 301 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: having them freelance for a little while, which I think 302 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: makes so much sense. 303 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 3: We do. 304 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: And by the way, people are listening and they're like, damn, 305 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: this sounds like a lot of work, you know for 306 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 1: a job interview. This is like a lot. It's putting 307 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: a lot of work on people. We do pay for 308 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: our edit and writing tests, so we can pay for 309 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: your time and value it. But it's cheap to pay 310 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: a few hundred bucks up front and then not hire 311 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 1: someone who will be a complete disaster later. You know, 312 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: we can eat that cost. It's like my was it 313 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: Maya Angelou who said when someone shows you who they are, 314 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: I believe in the first time. 315 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 2: Ah, yes, yes, I know, I know, yeah I was. 316 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:56,439 Speaker 2: I wish you could see my face. I'm like, oh, 317 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 2: I'm like reliving in the horror. 318 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: I feel that I feel it. Well, that happens. 319 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 3: What's up with you? 320 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 1: This is uncomfortable, isn't it? 321 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 3: It is? It is? 322 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 2: But you know it's also good because I know we 323 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 2: have so many, so many listeners that I kind of 324 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 2: hit us up about like what can you do to like, 325 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 2: you know, get a raise, or to negotiate or to 326 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 2: you know, to find a new job. And so hopefully 327 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 2: that is that's helpful that you know, folks are looking 328 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 2: for people who can do the work with for the 329 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 2: most part, minimal interference, that you're not going to need 330 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 2: a lot of hand holding. And also too, I think 331 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 2: that most people who are hiring or looking for someone 332 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 2: are okay with mistakes being made, but they're not okay 333 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 2: with excuses. 334 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean. 335 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: And I also think you have to identify the roles 336 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: on your team where you are will you do you 337 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: will tolerate a learning curve, and you will tolerate mistakes, 338 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: And there's some roles where you are very like you're 339 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: like way less tolerant, and then you hi. It's kind 340 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: of like it's like when you identify what's the entry level, 341 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: what's mid level, and how much handhold they do I 342 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: expect this person to need. 343 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 3: Because like customer support, Like let's just say this was 344 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 3: a customer support role. Honestly, it wouldn't have been a 345 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 3: big deal. 346 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 2: It would have been like especially if this person was 347 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 2: like a millennial, it'd be like, hey, because we we 348 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 2: we hire young people a lot, and sometimes they come 349 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 2: in and they do a little misstep and but we're 350 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 2: here to coach and guide you and customer support there's 351 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 2: a lot. 352 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 3: Of room for growth. 353 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 2: Or if you're on the you're on the social media 354 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 2: team where it's like, well that's you know, that tone 355 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 2: is probably not the kind. 356 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 3: Of post that we want. But these are places where 357 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 3: there's space. 358 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 2: But but you know, like I cannot coach the CFO 359 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 2: like this. You have to know, like DIRS is going 360 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 2: to need this paperwork. 361 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? 362 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 2: Like there's certain certain roles on a team where you know, 363 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 2: and my executive admin honestly is is I mean arguably 364 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 2: one of the most important roles on the entire team, 365 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 2: because it is it's what keeps me to be able 366 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 2: to like navigate all that we have to do. And 367 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 2: so there isn't much room for not much room for error, 368 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 2: but there's not much room for coaching. You have to 369 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 2: come with a lot of the skill set already there, 370 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 2: and then we show you kind of like what our 371 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 2: specialty skills are that are necessary. 372 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 3: But you have to come with a lot of that 373 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 3: stuff yourself. Like I said, if this was customer support, 374 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 3: she would still be here, but not in this role. 375 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 2: I was like, yike, I don't because quite honestly, it's stressful. 376 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 2: I hired an admin a few years ago and it 377 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 2: didn't work out. And the level of stress when I 378 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 2: tell you it was like going to a therapist as 379 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 2: like it was so I felt like I was having 380 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 2: a nervous breakdown, and I realized part of it was 381 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 2: I was not receiving the proper support and. 382 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 3: I was so overwhelmed. I remember even my. 383 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 2: Business part of Jabrill he said at the time, He's like, Tiffany, 384 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 2: I'm worried about you because he was in like Thailand, whatever. 385 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 3: He's like, I messaged you at four am. You respond. 386 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 3: I messaged you at one pm. You respond. 387 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 2: I messaged you at midnight because Gabril's always all around 388 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 2: the world. 389 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 3: You respond. 390 00:16:58,000 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 2: He said, I don't know that I've ever messaged you. 391 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 2: Then less six months that you have not responded within 392 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:05,199 Speaker 2: ten minutes. That worries me. When are you sleeping? And 393 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 2: I couldn't because I was doing my job and her job, 394 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 2: and I just was like the flashback to that, and 395 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 2: I said, I can't go back there. Honestly, I'm trying 396 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:13,959 Speaker 2: to have a baby and I'm supposed to be wusa 397 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 2: and zen and not stressed. And that's what I was 398 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 2: thinking to myself, that like that me getting the right 399 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 2: proper assistance is critical, not just professionally, but personally too. 400 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: So all right, I feel for this first listener, she 401 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: wants to remain anonymous, and you'll find out why. She 402 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 1: has a question about her friends and traveling. I wonder 403 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 1: if we know where. 404 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 3: This is going? Eh? 405 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: All right, so she says, here's my question. We'll call 406 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 1: her Sarah. I love to travel with my friends, but 407 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 1: they often tend to split to plan trips that go 408 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: far outside my budget. My budget for trips each year 409 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: is three thousand dollars, which, along with miles, is enough 410 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 1: for two big trips a year and two to four 411 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: small domestic trips. Right now, my friends are planning a 412 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 1: trip that's totally nearly six thousand dollars, and they aren't 413 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,479 Speaker 1: interested in any of my travel on a budget hacks. 414 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: They want to spend money on things that I just 415 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: don't value, like a luxury hotel. This has happened before 416 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 1: when I've tried to plan trips with them. I love 417 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 1: them and I want to travel with them. How can 418 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: I make that happen? What can I do to get 419 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: them to try my idea of budget travel? Thank you? 420 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: I really feel this is a really common uh. I 421 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 1: feel like everyone in their life has has had the 422 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:25,679 Speaker 1: friends who want to go, you know, go big for 423 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: a certain trip. You know, it's anyone who's ever been 424 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,199 Speaker 1: a bridesmaid, you know, the bachelorette party comes along, and 425 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: it's always freaking awkward because every you know, some people 426 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: want to go to Vegas and some people are like 427 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 1: not financially set to go to Vegas, and yeah, it's 428 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: really difficult. So first and foremost you are not alone, 429 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 1: Miss Sarah. 430 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing. All my friends know I'm cheap, 431 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 3: so they're like, girl. 432 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: I mean it is kind of like in your name. 433 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 2: No, well, I mean it definitely has, because I would say, 434 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,199 Speaker 2: like my best friend Dream is definitely more so the 435 00:18:56,240 --> 00:19:00,679 Speaker 2: fancy traveler than I am, so the true fizz. Drina 436 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 2: and I really don't go on that many trips together. 437 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 2: I mean now I'm a little I'm a little bit 438 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 2: more flexible. But for a while we did it. It 439 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 2: didn't mean we weren't friends. It didn't mean we didn't 440 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 2: hang out. 441 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 3: We did. 442 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 2: It doesn't didn't mean we didn't talk on the phone. 443 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 2: It just meant when I traveled. I used to actually 444 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 2: used to travel every year with a friend of my 445 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 2: friend of mine named Madeline and Madeleine had a similar 446 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:25,439 Speaker 2: traveling profile. Like Madeline was super low key, you know 447 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 2: she was. It was all about the budget. And so 448 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 2: I remember three or four years in a row, me 449 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 2: and Madeline went on a trip every year, and honestly, 450 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 2: Drena didn't feel any kind of way about it because 451 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 2: she knew she didn't want to travel in that way. 452 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 2: And then every once in a while, the way something 453 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 2: would come up with the way I wanted to travel 454 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 2: was similar in the way that Drina wanted to travel, 455 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 2: and we would do that. So it's okay not to 456 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 2: travel with your friends. It doesn't make them less of 457 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 2: your friends. Like it was crazy because Madeleine actually lives 458 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 2: in Newark, where I live, and when I tell you, 459 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 2: I never see Madeline in Newark. 460 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 3: But then once a year we'd be like going to Paris. 461 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 3: This here, let's do it. See what's my travel buddy. 462 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 2: And so I'm also part of this travel group brown girls, 463 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 2: kind of travel group on a Facebook called No Madness, 464 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 2: No Madness, And it's great because you can find other 465 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 2: travel folks who want to travel like you. And I've 466 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 2: met so many amazing No Madness Tribe members. So that 467 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 2: would be my suggestion that you don't. If they want 468 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,239 Speaker 2: to travel lucks, there's nothing wrong with that. Let them 469 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 2: travel LUs And if you don't, there's nothing wrong with that. 470 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 2: Find someone who fits your travel profile and travel with 471 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 2: them and then be friends with your friends. 472 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 3: But at home and in person. 473 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 1: No, I couldn't agree more. I mean, you're letting them, 474 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: You're letting their habits make you feel bad for your 475 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 1: Like I want you to stay on track. The fact 476 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: that you have a travel budget for the year and 477 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 1: you have it broken down by two big trips and 478 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 1: two domestic trips. First of all, doing that for three 479 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 1: thousand dollars, that's amazing. You should be really proud, and 480 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: they should be coming to you for travel tips. Why 481 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: wouldn't you want to save even if you have the 482 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: money to go lux But you know, I want to 483 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 1: keep the peace with them. I think you're better off 484 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 1: just bowing out of these group trips if they're not 485 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: going to work to you know, fit your budget. And 486 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 1: I know I kind of get what you're saying, but 487 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 1: I also feel like they're kind of not being good 488 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: friends if they're not going to try and you know, 489 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: try and compromise a little bit so that you feel comfortable. 490 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you want your friend to feel comfortable on 491 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:23,120 Speaker 1: a trip. So I agree with Tiffany on that front. 492 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: I recently I wonder if I wonder how you guys 493 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 1: will feel about this, especially U tiff. So I recently, 494 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: I've been on this whole, like pre baby bucket list 495 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: thing where I want to do see all the Broadway 496 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 1: shows and do my baby moon and all that kind 497 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: of stuff. And I invited two really good girlfriends to 498 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: see Mulan Rouge on Broadway, which I'm really excited about, 499 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: and they told me, here's our budget, and it turned 500 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 1: out tickets were above that price point. I personally kicked 501 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 1: in more money so that we can get better seats 502 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: because I am a Broadway snob and I only like 503 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: to sit where I like to sit, and where I 504 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: like to sit was just not in that price range. 505 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: But rather than make them feel bad, like I had 506 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 1: points on my card and I knew, I felt comfortable 507 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: just kicking in more money so we can all have 508 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 1: a better experience. And I just did that so that 509 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: I can be happy they don't feel bad about it. 510 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,959 Speaker 1: I use my points, I don't care. And that's how 511 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: when I've been on the other side. Doesn't happen all 512 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 1: the time where I'm the kind of the one who 513 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 1: wants to spend more. I'm like, okay, fine, I'll kick 514 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: in more because I want you guys to come along 515 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: with me, and you know, you're the people I want 516 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: to see the show with. Yeah, have you done that before? 517 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: Do you think that that was the right thing to do? 518 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 3: No? 519 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, well I've actually had friends do that for me 520 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 2: when I'm like, like, I have my my other fancy friend. 521 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 3: His name israw and that's how he is. 522 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 2: And so we would I would say, at least once 523 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 2: a month we would go out to dinner, and so 524 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 2: Cabrel would be like, oh, let's go here, and I'm like, 525 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 2: Cabra the prize. He's like, I got it, and I'd 526 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 2: be like wait. But so what it did, though, was 527 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 2: that it showed me that there were some things we're 528 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:57,199 Speaker 2: spending a little extra money on. 529 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie. 530 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 2: So Cabral has taught me that I'm still the budgetnista, 531 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 2: but I'm the budgetnissa that will sometimes splurge on luxurious 532 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 2: things for the experience of it. 533 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 3: So there's value in both. 534 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 2: So you know, and as a result, I have been 535 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 2: splurged on other people because of that lesson. I learned 536 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 2: from Cabral that sometimes it's okay to, like, you know, 537 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 2: pay a little extra because Cabral is always, always, always 538 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 2: willing to pay a little extra for the experience. 539 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: And honestly, and it's about the experience. And it's also 540 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,439 Speaker 1: like when you're the friend who maybe who wants to 541 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: invest more in an experience and you're like, you want 542 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: to share the experience with someone. It's not fun to 543 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: be the one who wants to spend money on a 544 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 1: luxury trip and then you go by yourself, like you 545 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 1: want to bring people along with you. So I think, anyway, 546 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: that's not really where this listener, Sarah is at on 547 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:50,199 Speaker 1: the side of the equation. But honestly, if you have 548 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: told them respectfully and upfront about your financial issues and 549 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: they're not willing to bend, you're either going to have 550 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: to sacrifice your own finances and your travel plan for 551 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: the year to to you know, to match what they 552 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,360 Speaker 1: want to do, or you're gonna have to just bow 553 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: it out, bow out of this trip. And you have 554 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,199 Speaker 1: to ask yourself what's more important to you, you know, 555 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: keeping your own financial plan on track. I hope. So 556 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: we're going on this luxury trip, or maybe you decide 557 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,880 Speaker 1: this trip sounds so phenomenal, you're going to take the plunge, 558 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,199 Speaker 1: go on the expensive trip, and then maybe scale back 559 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,400 Speaker 1: your travel plans for the next couple of years as 560 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 1: a result. If that doesn't sound like a fair trade off, 561 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: then I think you know what you got to do. 562 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 1: It's just not always the most fun decision to make. 563 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 3: Do you want to take one more questions? Do you 564 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 3: think we have some time? 565 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,360 Speaker 1: Definitely? Let's take a question. Let's see does she want 566 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: to be anonymous? Now? Listener? This is on from Instagram. 567 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:44,919 Speaker 1: Oh I didn't even mention to you guys. If you forgot, 568 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: we're on Instagram at brand Andbition podcast. You can send 569 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: us a DM there to ask your question, or hit 570 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: us up via email by going to brandambispodcast dot com 571 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: and clicking ask us anything. So those question is from 572 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 1: listener Vanessa the mistre buy her bank account. She says, 573 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 1: I have two bank accounts. One has a direct deposit 574 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: and the other account I use for online bill payment. 575 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 1: This bank charges a ten dollars monthly maintenance fee, and 576 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 1: the bank says I can avoid the fee if I 577 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 1: make a minimum of ten transactions per month. The ten 578 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: transactions can be point of sale or online bill pay. 579 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: What's the best way to make what's the best way 580 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: for me to make twenty qualifying transactions that won't cause 581 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,479 Speaker 1: me to overspend? Because she has two accounts and she 582 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: has to make ten transactions on each of them to 583 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 1: avoid this ten dollars per month fee, she continues, I 584 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 1: tend to use cash for a lot of my purchases 585 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 1: so that I don't get carried away with swiping my 586 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 1: card and overspend. I need your help, Vanessa. 587 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 3: Ooh girl, So she's got two different banks or two 588 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 3: different bank account. 589 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: The same bank, two different accounts with which both will 590 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: charge her ten dollars a month if she's not swiping 591 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: her card basically. 592 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 3: Ten twenty dollars. 593 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 1: Yes, we just tell her to get out of that bank, right, 594 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: just Lee, there's better banks, Vanessa, move from. 595 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 3: The gets out upgrade? Yes? 596 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 2: No, yeah, honestly, yeah, that bank is wild like which 597 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 2: I mean, are they really? 598 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 3: Because most of these banks are like. 599 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 2: The worst to be all the way candid, But I 600 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 2: think a quick Google search can show can find because 601 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 2: usually sometimes a bank will just say if you have 602 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 2: a deposit right, like I know, sometimes you can avoid 603 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 2: that get if you get your your paycheck direct deposit 604 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 2: into that account. 605 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: Probably some of them have like you have to be 606 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 1: a minimum amount, you know, if you have direct deposit 607 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: up to a certain amount. She'd have to look at 608 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 1: her bank's fine print because she does say she's using 609 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: one of them to deposit her paycheck through and the 610 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: other one for online bill pay, but she uses cash 611 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: so much because she wants to avoid overspending. So you 612 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 1: need to find an account that fits your profile. You 613 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: need to find a bank that doesn't charge a monthly 614 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: maintenance fees for keeping a low balance, that won't charge 615 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 1: you ATM fees when you withdraw money, because it seems 616 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 1: like you use cash a lot, and there's a lot 617 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: of options out there. I mean I use Ally and 618 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: the other day I just love going to a badiga 619 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: ATM now because I'm like, yes, I will you know 620 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: pay that three dollars fee because Ally is going to 621 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: pick that up for me. 622 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:13,679 Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, I'm literally doing it. I 623 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 2: did a Google search best free checking accounts, and Allies 624 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:22,439 Speaker 2: definitely one of them. There's Radius chime simple. These are 625 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 2: so checking account. 626 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, those are a couple of new ones via or 627 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: is it VO? I think it's v O v I 628 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: A a v io. They are a new bank, a 629 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 1: newer bank that's like really kicking the competitions, but with 630 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 1: no fees and high high rates on savings. I'm gonna 631 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: say you know again, I will post a link to 632 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 1: a couple of places you can look for alternative bank accounts. 633 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: Even I bet your local credit union has a better 634 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: deal than the bank that you're with. Now, there's better options, 635 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 1: I would say, get out of there now, versus trying 636 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 1: to figure out how to like change your spending habits 637 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: to fit their needs so they don't charge you money. 638 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, because it is just encouraging you to spend when. 639 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 3: I mean, that's the whole point they want you to 640 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 3: do that. We're not trying to do that. 641 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:10,239 Speaker 1: Nope, A thank you for your question again. We're on 642 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 1: Instagram at Brandonbision podcast or hit us up at Brandebision 643 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 1: podcast dot com. Ask us anything. 644 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 3: Yes, Now it's time to boost a break for all 645 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 3: our family. Will you boost? Will you break? What will 646 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 3: you do? Man? I feel like that was a good one. 647 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: That was. It was on tune I think and everything. 648 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: It was good. 649 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 3: Yes, I'm gonna do a boost. 650 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: I might do to a quick too, for quick too. 651 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: For so one, I want to shout out to my 652 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: workplace bestie. Who do you have a workplace bestie? You 653 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: probably dream is your bestie and you work together. Maybe 654 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: it's not a traditional workplace bestie, but I recently came 655 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 1: across this the study by Gallup. Maybe it was a survey, 656 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: but their research showed people who have workplace best eats. 657 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 1: So having a best friend at work actually helps you 658 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: do better over your whole your whole career. It's about 659 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: having support, someone to bounce ideas off of, and feeling 660 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: like you're more secure in a professional setting. I wholeheartedly agree. Agree. 661 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: Like I my best my workplace, one of my first 662 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 1: one of my best friends. I met at my first 663 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: job in New York City and she has been like 664 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: she was my lifeline for that job for so long. 665 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: So just shout outs. If you have a workplace best 666 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 1: you give them a shoot him a text, tell them 667 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 1: how much you appreciate them, how much you love them, 668 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: et cetera. And my second boost is gonna be I 669 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: listened so last week, Tiffany asked me. You know, when 670 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: someone asked you that question, they follow up with you 671 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: on something that you know you should do, but you 672 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 1: get a little defensive about it, and you because you 673 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 1: know you haven't done it yet. And last week you 674 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 1: asked me if I contacted my financial planner to tell 675 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: her about, you know, what's happening in my life. And 676 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: you know, I'm only thirty weeks into this pregnancy, and 677 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 1: my financial planner has no idea. So I emailed Helen 678 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: last week and let her know what was happening, and 679 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 1: we have a call scheduled for next week to talk 680 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 1: to I don't know why I was putting it off. 681 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 1: I think I've just felt like, well, the money part, 682 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: I got that down, like like as far as like 683 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: a five two nine plan, I know what that stuff is. 684 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: I'll figure it out. But the more I got to 685 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 1: thinking about it then where I'm like, maybe we should 686 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 1: get our life insurance looked at. We need to. It'll 687 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 1: just feel good to get the financial stamp of approval 688 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 1: from Helen. You know. 689 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 2: It's like you said, sometimes like lately, I've been leaning 690 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 2: into something that I call financial wholeness, which is like 691 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 2: it's not just I've got money in the bank, you know. 692 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 2: It's like you said, like I found, like through my 693 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 2: own financial planner, like I'm severely underinsured. 694 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 3: I'm like I need a secession plan. That did something 695 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 3: happened to me? What happens to the businesses. So it's 696 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 3: like I feel like, yes, I know I've got money saved, 697 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 3: but that's not enough for me to have like a 698 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 3: holistic view of like what I need to do with 699 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 3: my money, like I want, you know. 700 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 2: So that's what I like about, you know, having someone else, 701 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 2: an expert, kind of come in and help me look 702 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 2: at all aspects of my finances. 703 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm proud of you. 704 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to get that life insurance right, going 705 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 1: to get my will set and that. Just thinking about 706 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: the will, I was like, wait, who's gonna who would 707 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: get the child? And then of course I'm hormonal, so 708 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 1: I start crying thinking about us dying. It's really sad. Well, 709 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 1: yes that is any other pregnant women listen, like, because 710 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 1: I have confirmed us with two friends of mine. They 711 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,959 Speaker 1: confirm it's you have really dark and twisty thoughts when 712 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: you're in your third trimester, Like I imagine our deaths 713 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 1: in several different ways, like all the time. It's it's 714 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: very sad. The hormones, man, the horrorone. 715 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, hormones are something else. I tell you. 716 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 1: They're the devil, is what they are. Okay, you go 717 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 1: booster break. 718 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 2: I'm going to boost, But first I'm going to send 719 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 2: a little shout out to Dream, my bestie. 720 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 3: Well she's actually right now getting married. 721 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 2: I couldn't go because Zica is real and my IVF 722 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 2: doctor was like, sis, so we've come this far, we're 723 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 2: about to do another cycle and I need you not 724 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 2: to get Zica. So it was sad, but you know, 725 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 2: I just I couldn't take the risks. So it's like 726 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 2: I'm looking at all the pictures and stuff, but I 727 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 2: want to shout her out and say her and her 728 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 2: she's been with her her boo KB since they were 729 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 2: like fourteen fifteen, and they're such a cute couple. They've 730 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 2: got adult baby who's not a baby, he's four. But yeah, 731 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 2: so they're awesome and just happy wedding. 732 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 3: It looks amazing. My sisters are there. 733 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 2: So and then I want to just get a boost 734 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 2: to Today is my business partner Jabrill's birthday and there 735 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 2: are some people in your life that are pivotal, Like 736 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 2: they came into your life and your life is not 737 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 2: the same, whether in a terrible way or an amazing way. 738 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 3: And honestly, I have to. 739 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 2: Say that Jabril is a pivotal he when I look 740 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 2: back as to when my life took a turn, he 741 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 2: is one of the people. 742 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 3: It's like Jirell, my husband. 743 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 2: You know, like my you know, I don't know, like 744 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 2: my college best friend, you know what I mean. But Jabrill, 745 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 2: my business partner, is definitely one of those people. Not 746 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 2: that I wouldn't have been successful on my own, but 747 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 2: the truth of that there is I didn't think I 748 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 2: didn't think I deserved to be or that I don't know, 749 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 2: man just have. 750 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 3: This weird sense of overconfidence. Well they're just like, well, 751 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 3: but it is amandy. 752 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 2: When I tell you, like Jabril, I mean when I 753 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 2: first met Dbrill, I mean I was barely scraping by 754 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 2: and he was like, yeah, we're gonna make a few 755 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 2: million dollars. 756 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 3: And I was like, Okay, crazy person, I don't know 757 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 3: what are you talking about. And now that's what the 758 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 3: company does. And I remember him saying, yeah, wait till 759 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 3: we get to a million dollars a month, and I'm. 760 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 2: Like, that doesn't these crazy words and like November, we 761 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 2: are on track to make that in November. 762 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 3: And it's just. 763 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 2: It's both definitely annoying that he's right, but also it's 764 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 2: really he has really taught me to look beyond myself 765 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 2: and my own perceived limitations, and so that's what I 766 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 2: really like. Men in general just tend to think like that, 767 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 2: it seems like, and so Jabrill always has like and 768 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 2: so the other day, because he's already glossed over a 769 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 2: million dollars a month and he's like, yeah, I can't 770 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 2: wait till we get to our million dollar day. 771 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 3: And I'm like, what sor what are you talking about? 772 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 2: But now I'm deep enough in it that I know 773 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 2: that that is more than just a possibility, we can 774 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 2: do it. And so I'm just really grateful, not because 775 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 2: of the money, but because Jabrill has helped me to 776 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 2: unlock like the superpower in me that says that it's possible, 777 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 2: it's more than possible, it's probable, and I put in 778 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,839 Speaker 2: the work and it's you know, we're capable of doing 779 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 2: these things. 780 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,720 Speaker 3: And so I'm just grateful for him coming into my life, because, 781 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 3: like I. 782 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 2: Said, I feel like, if not, I would be Tiffany 783 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 2: that still works equally as hard but doesn't get as 784 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 2: far ahead because I just couldn't see it not for 785 00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 2: me anyway, you know. 786 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,320 Speaker 3: So happy birthday, Jabrill. You're the dopest. 787 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 2: If you want to, you know, feel bad about your life, 788 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 2: go ahead and follow him on Instagram. 789 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,399 Speaker 3: He's Jabril eight. It's a eighty eight. I think Jibril eight. 790 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,360 Speaker 3: He traveled. He doesn't even live anywhere. Jabrill like lives 791 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 3: the world. 792 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 2: He's really one of those people, you know, like the 793 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 2: fake people you see online and you're like, yeah, right, 794 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,399 Speaker 2: you travel to all these different countries and don't really 795 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 2: live anywhere and like have this amazing life. Now that's 796 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 2: debrill in real life, it's so Jabril eight. 797 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 3: Like that. Literally I could be talking to Jabrill. 798 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 2: He's like, I'm in China, and then the next week 799 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 2: when we have our team meeting, I'm. 800 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 3: Like, is that a giraffe? Yeah, I've been Zimbabwe. 801 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:37,800 Speaker 2: You're like, what, Like, we all aspire to be Jabrill 802 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 2: when we grow up, and he's so easy going and chill, 803 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 2: but he's a beast in business. So happy birthday to you. 804 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 2: My brother from another mother. I am grateful for you 805 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 2: and I love you like direct deposit. 806 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 1: No should we all. I wish we all had a 807 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 1: jabrill in our lives. And it may not be a guy, 808 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 1: but I'm telling you, my little brother. I hope he 809 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 1: doesn't listened to this podcast. He is so obnoxious sometimes 810 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 1: because all you know, For example, I got I got 811 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 1: a job offer and he was and I told him 812 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 1: what it was, and I thought I was, you know, 813 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 1: being the big sister, like very impressive. He's like, You're 814 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 1: gonna ask for equity or no? And I was like 815 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,840 Speaker 1: I was not. I was not gonna ask for equity. 816 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,400 Speaker 3: But me now you know, it's crazy. 817 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 2: I remember the first time he did that. We work 818 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,400 Speaker 2: with the company. He was like, so we really like equity. 819 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 2: And I'm looking at him like bruh, like your wilent 820 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 2: and they were like, you know what, okay, And he 821 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,319 Speaker 2: looked at me like like Tiffany, now I deserve it, 822 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 2: And I just, ah, can you imagine to be a 823 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:32,840 Speaker 2: mad I just. 824 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,319 Speaker 1: I hate it. But you need you need people with 825 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:36,880 Speaker 1: forget if it's a man or you need a man 826 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 1: or a woman. You need some balls in your life 827 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 1: to like push you in business for real, you need 828 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 1: a hype man, you need a hype woman, whoever it is, 829 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 1: to think bigger than you. 830 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:44,720 Speaker 3: I exactly. 831 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 2: And there are definitely are women out there who definitely 832 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 2: carry that with them, but I just for me, it 833 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 2: just was difficult to see past that. So yep, Like 834 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,399 Speaker 2: I you know, if you're a woman who rocks out 835 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 2: like that, I'm like, oh my god, Like what you know, 836 00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:58,800 Speaker 2: how did you get untrained? 837 00:36:58,840 --> 00:36:59,760 Speaker 3: Cause I feel like girls. 838 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,320 Speaker 2: Are talking to be polite and quiet and small and 839 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 2: not to go for it because that's that's unlady like 840 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 2: and not feminine, you know. 841 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 1: And it's trying to get equal pay, like we can't 842 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 1: even we can't even dream of getting like the dollar 843 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 1: to the dollar for the you know, for what a 844 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 1: man earns. And now it's like so thinking beyond that. 845 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 1: You're right, We're just we have to We need people 846 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 1: who think differently to rewire the way that we perceive 847 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:24,840 Speaker 1: ourselves beautiful. 848 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,759 Speaker 3: I don't know. I love the show. It just gets 849 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:28,319 Speaker 3: better and better. 850 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 2: I love when y'all stalking on the street and you're 851 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:31,800 Speaker 2: not even like budgets anymore. 852 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 3: They're like that ambition. 853 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, whoah, you know, I get recognized too sometimes, 854 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,359 Speaker 1: but please try. Could you please not catch me at 855 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 1: like six o'clock when I'm sweaty trying to catch the 856 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:46,919 Speaker 1: train though, that's when it always happens. I'm like, yeah, yes, 857 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:47,360 Speaker 1: it is me. 858 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,440 Speaker 3: Uh. And then they forced a hug on meet. They're like, 859 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:51,440 Speaker 3: heard you hate hugs. 860 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:55,280 Speaker 1: Here you go girl, Okay, I feel bad for encouraging 861 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 1: that behavior. 862 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 3: No, no, honestly, I don't mind. It has made me 863 00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 3: like a more of a huggy person. And they're like 864 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 3: one from Andy. I'm like, she's not getting this thing.