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Speaker 1: Look already yo Ola la Loka motives, I'm Theosa and

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Speaker 1: I'm Mala. Today is the final episode of season ten.

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Speaker 2: And this episode is a little bit different. We are

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Speaker 2: on ig Live right now in studio as I speak,

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Speaker 2: as we record, as you hear us our Loko motives

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Speaker 2: are joining us live on Instagram, and we're going to

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Speaker 2: be fielding questions. So let's get into it.

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Speaker 1: So today's topic, the theme for today's episode is standing

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Speaker 1: out while fitting in, and when we were conceptualizing this

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Speaker 1: final episode, we wanted to conduct it a little different,

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Speaker 1: which is why we're on live right now right, which

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Speaker 1: is what we used to do during the pandemic. We

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Speaker 1: would do our oya lookas during the live but Mala,

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Speaker 1: you really identified this theme. So let's talk about this theme,

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Speaker 1: standing out while fitting in and what it means to us.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we were really racking our brains trying to think

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Speaker 2: about what we're going to talk about on this final episode.

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Speaker 2: And for me, this year has been about standing out

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Speaker 2: while also navigating the pressures to fit in. And I

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Speaker 2: mean that in a very like loose way, right, but

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Speaker 2: even just in the context of like politically everything that's

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Speaker 2: been going on in the country, and the way that

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Speaker 2: folks like are trying to speak out to make a difference,

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Speaker 2: but we also are navigating like dangerous terrain.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: So we also don't want to like make ourselves targets. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and so we want to stand up, stand out, make

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Speaker 2: a difference, speak out against injustices, but we also like

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Speaker 2: need to be safe.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: That's like one lens ye. This year kind of like

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Speaker 2: brought me to this topic, this idea.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I think with everything going on, especially

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Speaker 1: since January twentieth of twenty twenty five and this new administration,

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Speaker 1: we have been feeling like I've never felt in the

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Speaker 1: past ten years, nervous, afraid, scared to publish an episode,

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Speaker 1: to produce an episode about a quote like sensitive topic.

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Speaker 1: I have never felt disempowered. And I will say with

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Speaker 1: all the attacks on our communities, on journalist executive orders

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Speaker 1: how do we navigate this new normal and the McCarthyism

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So it's this combination of like making your voice

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Speaker 2: and so it's hard to do both. So that brought

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Speaker 2: me to this topic. But also, like I think in school,

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Speaker 2: that you're walking of being an individual and being different,

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Speaker 2: but then often that means actually like fitting in visa

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Speaker 2: like there's like that side of things, and like being

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Speaker 2: and like bad ways to stand out.

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Speaker 1: What are some of the good ways and quote bad ways?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, Okay, if you're like have really interesting ideas

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Speaker 2: that's a good way to stand out, right, But sometimes

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Speaker 1: There's like a conformity aspect too, I think professionalism. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: And I want to go read Joanna's comment and Joanna

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Speaker 2: putting that type of public art out there, especially given

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Speaker 2: I'm sure that somebody who's creating public art kind of

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. Last week, let me pull up my phone. Last

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Speaker 1: as she keeps her some of her art free for

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Speaker 2: I love it. Keep yeah, keep it going, and follow

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Speaker 2: Joanna and the unapologetically straight series. Really amazing work.

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Speaker 1: Don't go anywhere, lokomotives.

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Speaker 2: We'll be right back, and we're back with more of

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Speaker 2: our episode. What else? What else?

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Speaker 1: Oh? You know?

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Speaker 2: Who else reminds me of standing out while fitting in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree completely. I think she's a really good

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Speaker 1: I've been thinking about just like personal style and aesthetic,

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Speaker 3: What are we wearing?

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Speaker 1: No, no, let me finish my thought. As we decline

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Speaker 1: that make sense?

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Speaker 2: It does make sense. I think you know, the pendulum swings.

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Speaker 1: Exactly right, That's the word I was looking for.

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Speaker 2: The pendulum is swinging in the direction of traditional family value,

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Speaker 2: And these tradwives have filler yeah. Yeah, these tradwives have

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Speaker 2: it's fascinating. Actually, we talked about this on a past

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Speaker 1: We did. We've talked about a lot this season like

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Speaker 2: We've left no stone unturned.

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Speaker 2: We do our best, and now we're doing an IG

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's have some call ins. And speaking of which,

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Speaker 2: so we have listeners here on the live. I don't

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Speaker 1: Okay, this person, I have to admit I cannot fully

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Speaker 1: read the name, but the message says you ladies have

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Speaker 1: gone so far. Love it still. Remember when I saw

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Speaker 1: you speak at a college in Chicago.

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Speaker 2: Hello, le I got that, Lina, and thank you for

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Speaker 2: your message. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: If I'm wrong, please correct me in the chat. I'm

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Speaker 1: No, well, not with Brisca, but yeah, Northwestern.

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Speaker 1: Let's see if this works. Oh she is, Hello, I

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Speaker 4: kind of, you know, felt like that's the way that

438
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Speaker 4: I had to stand out, kind of step in and

439
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 4: be like, this is not really how it's going to

440
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Speaker 4: work with this population or or even with me, you know,

441
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 4: quite honestly. So that's the way they send out and

442
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,359
Speaker 4: although you know it's been good, so do you know,

443
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,719
Speaker 4: people are like they'd like the ideas. They do engage

444
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 4: in what we're and what I'm pitching in. You know,

445
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,199
Speaker 4: there's also the videosas you know, like you have like

446
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 4: the people who are like, oh no, she's shining, she's

447
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 4: taking away my place of like with the ideas, and

448
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 4: then things happen. But you know, that's how it is. Sometimes.

449
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Speaker 2: Yes, I feel like there's this commentary that I see

450
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Speaker 2: on TikTok sometimes that your coworkers are not always your friends, yes,

451
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Speaker 2: or your classmates are not always your friends, and especially

452
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Speaker 2: if there's some sense of competition, and if there are

453
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Speaker 2: folks who feel like an opportunity for you means one

454
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Speaker 2: less opportunity for them, which is really not the case.

455
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Speaker 2: I really think that there's well, actually I don't know

456
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Speaker 2: if there's enough to go around.

457
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Speaker 1: There is enough to go around, but you know, yes.

458
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Speaker 2: In theory there's enough to go around. Yeah, you know,

459
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Speaker 2: we don't have to be in direct competition with one

460
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Speaker 2: another unless it's a direct competition, right, Yes, that's different.

461
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Speaker 4: When we're talking about community, right, community to work, That's

462
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Speaker 4: what I do. Yeah, there's enough ideas, right, there's enough

463
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Speaker 4: people too, And we need so many more people to

464
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Speaker 4: engage in leadership positions. We need so many more people

465
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Speaker 4: like I feel like too many people are scared to

466
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Speaker 4: be leaders or to be out there and engaging and

467
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Speaker 4: facilitating things. Like I find myself having to pick up

468
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 4: the slack sometimes and it's like, can I just be

469
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Speaker 4: the driver like in the vaccine. I don't want to

470
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Speaker 4: be the driver driver here, but I want to see

471
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Speaker 4: more people stepping up to the plate, you know. I

472
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Speaker 4: want to see more people, especially the younger generations. I

473
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Speaker 4: want to mentor them so they take off and I

474
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Speaker 4: can chow when I'm like time to retire. I do

475
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Speaker 4: not want to work beyond you know, big fears, all

476
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Speaker 4: in the sense of like having to carry the load

477
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Speaker 4: I'm carrying nowt Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think that's an important point, Like you don't necessarily

479
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Speaker 2: want to be the center. You want to pass it

480
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Speaker 2: on and keep it moving, which is so important and

481
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Speaker 2: so great. Thank you for sharing that, Jackie, of course.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, Oh my gosh, yes, thank you for

483
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Speaker 1: always being down and just being willing to share a

484
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Speaker 1: little snippet of your your journey in your industry, in

485
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Speaker 1: the field, that of your work. Right, So yeah, thank

486
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Speaker 1: you for rocking with us, Thank you for joining us today.

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Speaker 1: All right, Mariah, you're next. I want to hear. I

488
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Speaker 1: want to hear about sexy to be a leader.

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Speaker 2: No such thing. Leadership is sexy.

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Speaker 1: Hey, welcome back to look at radio your second time.

491
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Speaker 5: I have to be a little bit careful, Okay, I

492
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Speaker 5: feel like they have any power over me, but also

493
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Speaker 5: like you know, it's a whole thing. And I also don't

494
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 5: want to be bad mouthing anybody. I'm not going to

495
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Speaker 5: use anyone names. I just think it's a teachable moment.

496
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Speaker 5: And I also think it's a great moment for when

497
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Speaker 5: we become elders ourselves and when we captain mentor like

498
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Speaker 5: young femmes, just young anybody really, especially people in our communities.

499
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Speaker 5: So I don't holding me ill will. But when I

500
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Speaker 5: became the co founder really public press, you know, folks

501
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 5: were excited like, oh my god, Latina is the co

502
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,439
Speaker 5: founder of this new LA newsroom, right, And I was

503
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 5: super excited, and I was you know, I was pretty

504
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 5: young at the time. I was twenty six, and I

505
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,400
Speaker 5: was really looking for a mentor. Most of my life,

506
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Speaker 5: I've never had a woman mentor. I've always wanted them,

507
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Speaker 5: but they've always been like really busy and he's like

508
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Speaker 5: one dronals and T shirt.

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Speaker 1: But it was really hard.

510
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Speaker 5: Most of the people that led me when I was younger,

511
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Speaker 5: for guys or men. There's this one latina. She's in

512
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Speaker 5: our industry, she's in some spaces. She's created a little

513
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Speaker 5: bit of a platform or big platform, and she reached

514
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 5: out to me, and I was so excited. I was like,

515
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Speaker 5: oh my gosh, it's gonna be my first Latina mentor.

516
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Speaker 5: I've never had a Latina mentor before. The only other

517
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Speaker 5: woman who mentored me was a white woman, and I

518
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 5: liked her too.

519
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Speaker 4: She's great.

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Speaker 5: And she called me. I was so excited for this

521
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Speaker 5: phone call. Can you imagine twenty six citing this newsroom,

522
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Speaker 5: so excited to have some guidance finally, and she's like, congratulations,

523
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Speaker 5: this is so big, this is so big. She's like,

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Speaker 5: can I give you some advice. I'm like, oh my god,

525
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Speaker 5: please give me some advice. She said, like, you're too

526
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Speaker 5: you know, I don't get upset with me, And that's

527
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 5: always a red flug. Uh, but I think you're too

528
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 5: sexy your Instagram you look like a party girl, and

529
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Speaker 5: you're linked you know my LinkedIn picture. I will be honest,

530
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Speaker 5: I didn't have a headshot. Okay, like I will give

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Speaker 5: her that my LinkedIn need worked. I think if I

532
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Speaker 5: could take any positive from that, my LinkedIn didn't work.

533
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Speaker 5: So I did change up my LinkedIn a bit. But

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Speaker 5: she said, like, you look like a party girl. You're beautiful,

535
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Speaker 5: but you look at party girl and decision makers aren't

536
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Speaker 5: gonna take you seriously. And how are you going to

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Speaker 5: be able to take care of the people that work

538
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Speaker 5: under you if decision makers don't take you seriously? By

539
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 5: the way, I'm not at the top. I have a

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Speaker 5: CEO that I answered to. Okay, I just felt in

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Speaker 5: that moment that there was just more being placed. I

542
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Speaker 5: mean also being like Latina and being told that you're

543
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Speaker 5: too sexy and being told that you look like a

544
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Speaker 5: party girl danning while fitting and I had to really

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Speaker 5: think about it. I was like, Okay, what part of

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Speaker 5: the feedback can I take and what part of this

547
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 5: feedback is offensive? And so I don't want to reject,

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Speaker 5: So you know, I did change up my my LinkedIn.

549
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 5: My LinkedIn is a lot better now. But I did

550
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Speaker 5: not change my Instagram athetics. I'm not going to change

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00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 5: my Instagram a sthetics. I'm not going to change who

552
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Speaker 5: I am. I'm not going to change the way, you know,

553
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 5: the way I operate too much. I mean, y as

554
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Speaker 5: I get older, you know, I'm gonna mature and all

555
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 5: that good stuff. But I would hate, hate, hate, because

556
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Speaker 5: I do know that there's like some younger Latino journalists

557
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 5: that follow me, or just younger women in general that

558
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 5: follow me. And I know it's because they reach out

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Speaker 5: to me. I know this because I talk at colleges

560
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 5: sometimes and I know this guy talk in high school sometimes.

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Speaker 5: I don't want to be changing who I am and

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Speaker 5: you know, changing the way I dress and steadly dressing

563
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Speaker 5: more conservative or whatever, because I don't want young women

564
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Speaker 5: to think that they have to change who they are,

565
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Speaker 5: that their bodies are a distraction, that that their bodies

566
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Speaker 5: somehow make them less. I want us to show up

567
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 5: as their full selves, what makes us feel comfortable, what

568
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 5: makes us feel powerful. And you know, I'm a petite,

569
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Speaker 5: like curvy woman. I'm sorry, like I am going to

570
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 5: when I wear clothing it's gonna be. It's gonna it's

571
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 5: gonna look a certain way. I'm not gonna be wearing

572
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Speaker 5: the boxy clothing that the white women wear at in

573
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Speaker 5: these professional spaces. I'm gonna have like a little like

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Speaker 5: wiste something. Okay, it's just how it's gonna be. I'm sorry.

575
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 5: So yeah, I still wanna standout. I still want to

576
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Speaker 5: show that we don't have to be these like buttoned

577
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 5: up journalists all the time, sacrificing who we are in

578
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,719
Speaker 5: our backgrounds. But I'm also going to you know, take

579
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 5: up space and wearing you know, like some really cute slacks,

580
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 5: have a cute little outfit when I'm in a professional space.

581
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Speaker 5: And I developed that that thick skin. I developed that

582
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Speaker 5: from since college when they told me that I had

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Speaker 5: to be doing the whole like objectivity that I didn't

584
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Speaker 5: really agree with.

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Speaker 2: I believe in objectivity.

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Speaker 5: From the perspective of whoever's being impacted, because that's how

587
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,719
Speaker 5: you can best report on policies, that's how you can

588
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 5: best report and serve the people. But well, I was

589
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Speaker 5: always told like you have to talk about both sides,

590
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 5: played devil's advocate, and I just wanted to reject that

591
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 5: so by this point, by the time I was twenty six,

592
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 5: I was already ready to kind of like push back

593
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 5: and take that kind of criticism because something I had

594
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 5: already done since college.

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Speaker 1: Well, first, thank you for sharing that that experience with

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Speaker 1: us today and for the folks that clearly resonates with

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Speaker 1: the folks commenting. I think what my really big takeaway

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Speaker 1: from hearing you is really how as we mature and

599
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: how maybe how we want to present ourselves may change

600
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: and may evolve, and even our content online, like we

601
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Speaker 1: shouldn't put that on like a younger generation or like

602
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Speaker 1: people that we could mentee, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: Like in the same way you had that experience with

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Speaker 1: an older mentor now if you're in a position of mentorship,

605
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Speaker 1: like you know how not to treat your mentee and

606
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Speaker 1: like what not to pick apart and instead like lead

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Speaker 1: with like a different a different perspective and experience.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I hope that when I'm older and maybe if

609
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Speaker 5: I have a concern, if I'm worried for the person

610
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Speaker 5: I'm menting, maybe it's like, you know what, when I

611
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 5: was younger, this was my experience. Maybe that's not going

612
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 5: to be your experience, But I'm just feeling scared about this,

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Speaker 5: but maybe educate me. Maybe it's not like that anymore.

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Speaker 5: You know. I'm you know, twenty years out, thirty years out,

615
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 5: you know. I want to support you in this however way.

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Speaker 5: I want to flag this might be a thing, but.

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Speaker 2: I don't really know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like that person was probably ascribing to

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Speaker 1: like a certain professionalism that was imposed on them, right,

620
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: and then continue to like replicate.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And things can change so drastically because woman in

622
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 2: a pants suit is considered very professional now, but there

623
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Speaker 2: was a time where women couldn't wear pants at all period,

624
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Speaker 2: you know, and now it's peak professionalism, even more professional

625
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 2: than a dress or a skirt.

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Speaker 1: You know.

627
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Speaker 2: So things change, they really do. And I think that

628
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Speaker 2: it's so important for us to like embrace the individual

629
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Speaker 2: changes we go through, but then like accept that that

630
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Speaker 2: means the next generation is living through their own set

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Speaker 2: of changes and sometimes they like are not aligning.

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Speaker 1: Yes, thank you for joining, We love you.

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Speaker 2: Have a great day.

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Speaker 1: So the Cadla Corasson says, I've never really fit in anywhere.

635
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: I'm a Canadian Latina, neurospicy, and I stand out and

636
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Speaker 1: I never know what to do about it.

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Speaker 2: M very interesting. So Carla, let me ask you when

638
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Speaker 2: you say you never know what to do about it, Like,

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Speaker 2: I'm interested about in that piece, Like is the standing

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Speaker 2: out for you something that you have come to embrace?

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Speaker 2: And Godla also was in our podcasting course this summer

642
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Speaker 2: and has a super cool idea for an original podcast.

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Speaker 1: Hi.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, how are you going from Canada?

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Speaker 5: Sorry?

646
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 3: I do just roll out of bed and I'm just

647
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 3: living out of a suitcase right now, so I don't

648
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Speaker 3: I'm not put together as much as I like to be.

649
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 2: But but you, I love the hat is carrying it

650
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Speaker 2: cries easily is so funny. I love the hat Carla.

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Speaker 2: For those listening, Godla's wearing a hat that says cries easily.

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Speaker 1: And she's wearing a fabulous red list I love, I love,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: I think I found this a little bit later in life,

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Speaker 3: Like when I started, I made like a really cool

656
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Speaker 3: network of Latino entrepreneurs as I was also a Latino

657
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 3: entrepreneur at the time, and we all did everything to

658
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Speaker 3: help each other out. And they started sending me stuff

659
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Speaker 3: to like model or display or do a reel on.

660
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Speaker 3: And I think that was the first time I was like, oh,

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Speaker 3: I can I can leverage this into something useful that

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Speaker 3: isn't just like criticism or negative attention. So I'm growing

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Speaker 3: in it. I actually have a cold stuff war and

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Speaker 3: she's helping me with like visibility training because it's something.

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Speaker 2: I'm terrified of.

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Speaker 3: So it's something that I'm always working on and just

667
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Speaker 3: getting more comfortable because with visibility comes also a lot

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Speaker 3: of power and a lot of opportunity to collaborate and

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Speaker 3: help people. So I'm learning to not see it as

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Speaker 3: a negative. I used to hide a lot and I'm

671
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Speaker 3: still working on it though. But yeah, that's my that's

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Speaker 3: my story.

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Speaker 2: Wow, you shared so many interesting things right now. I

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Speaker 2: love I've never heard of a like visibility coaching. That's

675
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Speaker 2: so interesting. Thank you for bringing that to the show

676
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Speaker 2: because it's like that's something really unique.

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Speaker 1: M Yeah definitely. Well it sounds like you are working

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Speaker 1: through that and thank you for sharing that with us. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: thank you.

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Speaker 3: I love you guys, huge Hush fan and forever supporting you.

681
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Love to take care, we love you.

682
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:07,720
Speaker 1: I rooted in wellness, says I think when you get older,

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Speaker 1: it stops to matter. Still looking nice, I see that.

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Speaker 1: I hear that. I raise you my seventy year old mother,

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Speaker 1: m who that's a very big part of her identity

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Speaker 1: is quote looking nice.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she's of that.

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Speaker 1: She's of that generation. Am I too?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, my mom used to say, Like my mom would talk.

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Speaker 1: She talks about her mother right, who was born in

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Speaker 1: the early nineteen hundreds, right, and talks about how her

693
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Speaker 1: mother was like would wear the suits, but like the

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Speaker 1: dress suits right with them with a skirt and like

695
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Speaker 1: just to run errands like they were just walking around

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Speaker 1: what is like looking all beautiful, you knows, with the

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Speaker 1: wigs like they were definitely of that generation where no

698
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Speaker 1: matter where they were going, it was it.

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Speaker 2: Was very like we're going to the department store.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I think it's too Chasanyas says, I feel like

701
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Speaker 1: I'm the quote difficult one and the family from my

702
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: selective food choices and conscious eating to my politics and

703
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 1: living with intention also not being religious.

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00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 2: Okay, I can see that, especially the food. Okay, we

705
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 2: made this big feast for everybody. Yeah, and you need

706
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Speaker 2: a special plate?

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Speaker 1: And does it also center around a religious holiday?

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Speaker 2: Usually? I can definitely goodness trifecta.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, Sending you love with that one that is definitely,

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00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 1: you know, challenging when it's within that family dynamic, and

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Speaker 1: it sounds like if it's what's best for you and

712
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: what's good for you and what you're in your beliefs,

713
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: like that is what's right for you and should be respected.

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Speaker 1: So next we have Alejandra God She says, I struggle

715
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Speaker 1: a lot with being the odd one out in my family.

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00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: I'm tattooed, have alternative style, and I'm more politically radical

717
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: than my relatives. It's uncomfortable, but someone's got to do it.

718
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 2: Someone's got to do it.

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Speaker 1: Some have got to do it, and it's usually us.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, someone's got to be the cool, radical tattooed battie.

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Speaker 1: That's me. That's literally you ad the bisexual and we're there.

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Speaker 2: It's an archetype.

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Speaker 1: It is.

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Speaker 2: It's an archetype. And if your family doesn't have one,

725
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Speaker 2: that's sad.

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Speaker 1: That means it's you or and if it's not, it

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Speaker 1: needs to be.

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Speaker 2: It needs to be art your child.

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00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: Smighty X says, if I may, how have y'all managed

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Speaker 1: to say true to the quo aesthetic or look you've

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Speaker 1: curated for yourselves as artists and for Lokata as a whole.

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Speaker 1: It's a great question.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like my aesthetic has changed a little

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Speaker 2: bit over the years because I have chopped my hair

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Speaker 2: off twice. So anytime I've had my pixie, I think

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Speaker 2: it completely altered my vibe and my style. And I

737
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,879
Speaker 2: felt that change and that shift. So now that I'm

738
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Speaker 2: growing my hair back out, like and I'm doing the

739
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Speaker 2: curtain bang again and you know, the curly cut is

740
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Speaker 2: coming back out, I feel myself settling back into this

741
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Speaker 2: this version of me that really has so much to

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Speaker 2: do with the hair.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it does.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for me, the hair completely dictates the vibe in

745
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Speaker 2: the aesthetic.

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Speaker 1: Mala has like so many hairstyles, you know, and y'all

747
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,760
Speaker 1: don't see her as often as I do. Mala has

748
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Speaker 1: so many hair selfs. And then there's me with the

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Speaker 1: little bob, you know, the first bob, and so it's yeah,

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Speaker 1: I do agree. The hair is a very big part

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Speaker 1: of the look.

752
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, whether if.

753
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: It's longer, if it's short, like, if it's longer, if

754
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 1: it's a pixie, it's still very central to your aesthetic,

755
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Speaker 1: to your look.

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Speaker 2: The hair is everything. And for the podcast, I think

757
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 2: we've kept it pink. You know, different shades of pink,

758
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 2: but we've kept it. We've kept it pink throughout the years.

759
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 2: We've kept it girly and feminine with a little edge,

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Speaker 2: with a little edge, well edge, it's.

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Speaker 1: Like highphem meets there's some like hardness to it.

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Speaker 2: There's a light there's brew ha yeah, very light bruh.

763
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Speaker 2: And I think that there's a there's there is a

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Speaker 2: you know, we're millennials of a certain age with this

765
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Speaker 2: like Instagram back, so there is like an ig batty,

766
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 2: there is tint to it.

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Speaker 1: Tigi batties have transformed over the years, but back in

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Speaker 1: our day, the twenty sixteen day, it looked a certain way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so we have residual.

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Speaker 1: That residual twenty sixteen honestly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So EVVHD sorry, let me say that again, ev HD. Easy,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to assume it's Evan on this PhD says

774
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Speaker 1: in my PhD biochem program, I always tried to dress

775
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Speaker 1: a little professional. Meanwhile, the white male noble laureate would

776
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Speaker 1: show up in chank glass Hawaiian shirts and shorts. I

777
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:43,399
Speaker 1: never felt I could do that screaming yeah, because if

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Speaker 1: you did it, there's probably when they would say something realistically.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,720
Speaker 1: When I was going to UC Santa Barbara, the white

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Speaker 1: students on campus would walk to class bare foot. They

782
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Speaker 1: would skateboard bear foot four feet because we're like by

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Speaker 1: the b and they're like little hippies, one with nature,

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Speaker 1: what have you. I'm all for that, but put some

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Speaker 1: shoes on.

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00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 2: Truly, when I was in high school, I remember being

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00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 2: aghast at like my white classmates wearing flip flops to

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Speaker 2: school and like taking their flip flops off during class

789
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Speaker 2: and just like setting them aside and just in class

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Speaker 2: in high school unheard of, unheard of her, but they

791
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 2: did it. They were very casual. I never did that.

792
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 2: I never felt like I.

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00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 1: Could do that. I couldn't imagine you doing that.

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00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 3: Now.

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00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 2: I keep my shoes on.

796
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, even when the heels hurt.

797
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 2: I've only her I keep them, keep.

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00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 1: The shoes on. We have never been those girls.

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00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 2: I will hobble any who enough about my feet.

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Speaker 1: All right. Judging by the cover Dot Books, Love the

801
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 1: Name says, I've definitely deconstructed what quote looking nice is

802
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 1: working to reject traditional professionalism absolutely, and I think that

803
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 1: like what quote looking nice is subjective to the right

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00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 1: and so what like looking quote. Nice is gonna be

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00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 1: different to each person. Yeah, even the person with the chunk.

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00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: Mus Let's be honest.

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00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 2: It's true. We were all born naked. The rest is drag.

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00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 2: That's a real Paul quote.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, Well, this has been such an amazing conversation.

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00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: It looks like we're about to wrap up. Any final

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Speaker 1: thoughts or questions about this topic, please feel free to

812
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: drop those in now before we wrap up. But this

813
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: has been really fun.

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00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 2: It has been lovely. Y'all are so engaged. Our listeners are, like,

815
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 2: have so much to share and talk about, and I

816
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 2: think we might have to do this again.

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00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 1: I think so. Oh, we have a special announcement actually yes,

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Speaker 1: well two well, one is a reminder and one is

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Speaker 1: an announcement. So first, we are finalists for the Signal Awards. Huge.

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Speaker 1: We are in two categories, Arts and Culture for Look

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Speaker 1: at our Radio and Conversation Starter for Sin to Sex

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Speaker 1: d Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And these are Listeners Choice Awards.

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00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 1: Yes, so that means that it's up to the voters.

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00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 1: Up to y'all. You can help us win a Listener

826
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 1: Choice Award by going in and voting. It's very easy.

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Speaker 1: It's linked in our bio. You create an account, confirm

828
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 1: your email, and then search the genre. You can either

829
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 1: type in Loka Tora and both shows will come up,

830
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 1: or you can search by genre of arts and Culture

831
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 1: and conversation Starter. I'm not too sure about the conversation Starter,

832
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: but I will say for arts and culture, we are

833
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: the only Latinas and women of color in that category.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so rock the vote. Voter die, you know all

835
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 2: of that stuff. Your vote, your vote matters. Vote for us,

836
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 2: Vote for us.

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00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 1: We have a final, final announcement to share. If you're

838
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 1: on this live, you are hearing it first. We are

839
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 1: bringing back Loka to live a podcast party. We have

840
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: one potential date tvd on that one, but we have

841
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 1: a for sure locked in date that's November twenty first

842
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Speaker 1: at the Paramount. It's going to be our first live

843
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 1: show in years. We're bringing back the podcast party. So

844
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 1: expect to dance, expect to be with each other in community,

845
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 1: and see this in vivo, in the flesh on a stage.

846
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: It's going to be so much fun.

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Speaker 2: The Paramount is an iconic Boil Heights music venue. We

848
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 2: did a show there years ago. We did look at

849
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 2: what our live a podcast party, Spectrum One News was

850
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 2: there that's right. Yeah, we screened our short film low

851
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Speaker 2: Keith as anonymous. There it was, We had vendors. It

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00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 2: was a fabulous time. And we similarly are going to

853
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 2: have interview guests, a live musical guest. We're gonna have

854
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Speaker 2: a DJ drinks. It's gonna be fun. So just like,

855
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 2: keep an eye out, yes, keep keep up with our

856
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 2: Instagram posts, keep with our newsletter because ticket information is

857
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 2: coming your way.

858
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Speaker 1: Yes, mark your calendars. November twenty first, join us for

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Speaker 1: lokat A Live.

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Speaker 2: Yay, all right, y'all.

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00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 1: Well, this wraps season ten. This was our final episode

862
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: of Loka Dora Radio season ten, and we wanted to

863
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 1: shake it things up, do it differently, which is why

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00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,320
Speaker 1: we're here on Live with y'all today. So if you

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00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: were on the Live with us listening to it in

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Speaker 1: vivo in real time, thank you so much. If you're

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Speaker 1: listening on Wednesday when this episode drops, thank you so

868
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: much for tuning in to another season of Lokatoa Radio.

869
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 2: And that's bye bye for now.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, hopefully catch you next season, y'all.

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Speaker 2: Best see us.

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Speaker 1: Look at a Radio is executive produced by Viosa Fem

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Speaker 2: Munios Stephanie Franco is our producer.

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Speaker 1: Story editing by Me diosa.

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Speaker 2: Creative direction by Me Mala.

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Speaker 2: You can listen to LOKAA Radio on the iHeartRadio app

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Speaker 2: And thank you to our local motives, to our listeners

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