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Speaker 2: The volume Willian Hi Ry.

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Speaker 3: We are back with another episode of Rory Maul Don't

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Speaker 3: Know Ball Today, Rory, we are once again joined by

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Speaker 3: somebody who knows more about ball than either one of

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Speaker 3: us will ever know. Yes, and with the tenth pick

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Speaker 3: in the two thousand three NFL Draft, the Baltimore Ravens

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Speaker 3: select a fucking dog, a dog of all dogs from

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Speaker 3: Arizona State University. We are joined by Terrell T Sizzle Sugs.

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Speaker 3: How you doing, my.

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Speaker 2: Brother, Legend? What was happening? Thanks for having to me.

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Speaker 4: The legend the legend? Terrell? How you feeling? How you

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Speaker 4: been I.

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Speaker 5: Feel I've been good man. Feeling really good. Man, I just, uh, well,

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Speaker 5: I can't say I just had a newborn baby here

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Speaker 5: ye here now. But he knew he basically he punking me,

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Speaker 5: running it, running your life, running your life, running it.

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Speaker 6: It doesn't look like you have any bags under your eyes.

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Speaker 6: So that's a good thing.

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Speaker 5: He's sleeping now. But the first couple of months was

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Speaker 5: what what was sleep like? I didn't even know what

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Speaker 4: Want to jump right into it with you, Torell. I'm

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Speaker 4: gonna be honest with you.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: I was rooting for you. I thought that you would

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Speaker 3: have gotten into the hole in the first ballot. I

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Speaker 3: still cannot believe that Terrell Suggs did not Rory get

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Speaker 3: selected to the Hall of Fame on the first ballot.

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Speaker 3: We're talking about a guy who was probably number eight

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Speaker 6: In an NFL I mean number one for tackles for

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Speaker 2: Ye I just what do you have to do to

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Speaker 3: At Let's be honest, like, what is the criterion Tuton

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Speaker 3: super Bowl champion? Fucking I don't know how many Pro Bowls.

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Speaker 3: Let's be honest, because that's what we do, hit man.

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Speaker 3: We talk it real, we keep it real. How disappointed

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Speaker 3: were you in not being selected as first ballot?

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Speaker 5: I was extremely dispot I ain't even gonna lie I was.

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Speaker 5: I was herdbroken on it. Like, I was extremely disappointed

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Speaker 5: because you know, I'm like the first Raven that didn't

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Speaker 2: Ballot, insane, insane in on his first ballot. Was his

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Speaker 5: Yeah, uh you know, is add in there yet?

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Speaker 2: Red?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it was his first ballot, and you know, like

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Speaker 5: I didn't want to be the Raven that was a finalist,

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Speaker 5: you know what I mean, and didn't get in on

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Speaker 5: that day I saw Shannon Sharp.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I was all right, yeah, I'm disappointed, But that's

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Speaker 2: Like that that was dope, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: So I'm gonna be honest, man, that that was that

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Speaker 3: I felt like it has a lot of a lot

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Speaker 3: other reason why Terrell Suggs is not a first ballot

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you know they said they look for

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Speaker 5: It's whatever like now like if it, if it does happen,

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Speaker 5: Like I said, I found I didn't get in having

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Speaker 2: A good one. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: Right, it was just like it was a silver line

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Speaker 3: Bill Coach Bill Belichick had some some great things to

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Speaker 4: We had to double team him every play.

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Speaker 3: So I mean, I think it had happened one day,

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Speaker 3: but it's politics. Man, that ain't for us. You did

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Speaker 2: Whenever it happens. Did it happened? Man? Yeah, you know

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Speaker 5: I gotta keep on living, you know, I mean, I

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Speaker 5: I gotta continue to be dead.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's take it back to the h to the

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Speaker 3: beginning of Torell. What was it like growing up in Minnesota?

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Speaker 3: Like that's that's one of the cities that you find

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Speaker 2: What was it like?

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Speaker 3: What was it like growing up in Minnesota and and

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Speaker 3: did you purify yourself in the waters of Lake.

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Speaker 5: I did not, But I mean, I'm glad I saw

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Speaker 5: It's very cold, you know what I'm saying, cold in soda.

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Speaker 5: And it's also like it's as a jungle in the

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Speaker 5: because like you had to ball like Joe Mauer.

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Speaker 2: People don't know that Joe Mauer was the only player on.

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Speaker 5: An inner city team and he was the best player,

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Speaker 5: right Like Joe maher Like is a legend in Minnesota,

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Speaker 5: especially in Saint Paul. Like he played like he played

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Speaker 5: He was eight when we were ten, and he's the

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Speaker 5: In pee wee football, they pretty much let Joe kind

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Speaker 5: to say, Like I said, like it was just a

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Speaker 5: It's like a concrete jungle, you know, all on top

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Speaker 5: they don't Like I tell my kids all the time,

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Speaker 5: like we didn't have the kind of like resources y'all have,

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Speaker 2: That it wasn't as vast as it is now, you

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Speaker 5: But like we just had kids, punk kids like that

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Speaker 5: So like when I moved to Arizona, I was like

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Speaker 5: talent in Minnesota. You know, the girl Hage budget just

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Speaker 5: Of course, Jay says Jalen Subbs.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: Orlando Magic Minnesota. You know what I mean. But we

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Speaker 2: Own mighty ducks.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, mighty duck.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I wanted to be a duck,

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Speaker 5: You know when black people we only want to play

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Speaker 5: Moore's day in the time, but we never there's a

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Speaker 3: Did you did you did you feel like when you

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Speaker 4: Yeah, with the element of the weather and things like that.

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Speaker 5: I felt like, like I said, because of the talent level,

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean. You couldn't talk in there.

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Speaker 5: But you know, you come down the nice, sunny Arizona,

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Speaker 5: So it was kind of like that, Like think of

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Speaker 5: that when when Killed Mangers showed up in Wakanda, That's

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Speaker 5: exactly how it showed up in Arizona. I was like, Oh,

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Speaker 5: this is for it taking. Yeah, it wasn't you know,

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Speaker 5: it wasn't twelve Terrell to every ten kids.

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Speaker 5: It was more like four right, and oh oh I'm

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Speaker 5: It was just like, Yo, I could do something I

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Speaker 5: Scholarship, you know what I'm saying, Like that change of

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Speaker 6: What were you thinking, Because I mean fifteen, you got friends,

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I was like, that was

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Speaker 5: Tupac Shakr. I'm a Tupac guy. Big on pop. In

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Speaker 5: high school it became jay Z, but most importantly DMX

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. So I shaved all my

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Speaker 5: I started barking at people and you know, walking like

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Speaker 5: got identity Price. Yeah, of course, anybody who that's hot

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Speaker 5: I mean, not as dark as hell out the second

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know he had that. I had both of them.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, like DMX was high school DMX and jay Z

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Speaker 6: School I mean ninety to two thousand. I feel like

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Speaker 6: it was that the Agel debate of X versus jay Z,

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Speaker 2: I chose X definitely.

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Speaker 5: I think X was just you know because like jay

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Speaker 5: Z was quote unquote you know, he had like that

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Speaker 2: You know, he had the pretty boy you know what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, the champagne. You know.

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Speaker 5: AX was street. Yeah, you know, ex Ex was hood.

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Speaker 5: We ain't popping, like no, I'm walking my dogs, my

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Speaker 2: But like, yeah, what street, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 6: Man was Arizona. More on the West Coast ship when

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Speaker 5: Yeah, No, they were big on the West Coast. I

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Speaker 5: their own style, like they Area rappers. They're not La raps, right, yeah, right,

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Speaker 5: they got their own thing, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 6: Scene, malls into the Chicano rap so I know that's big.

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Speaker 4: It's own rap.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 4: I'll listen to anything, man, whether it's good or not.

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Speaker 4: I just want to hear it.

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Speaker 3: Let me know if this, if this is the sound

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Speaker 3: coming out of this city, I'm all right, let me

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Speaker 3: Like I can't get into that, it's not for me.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And it's like you know, when we grew up,

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Speaker 5: get your song put on TikTok, and that's what they

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Speaker 2: Now it's kind of what they call like strip a rap.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you gotta look good, you gotta look good.

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Speaker 2: How good is your pussy? And you got to break

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Speaker 2: a bag and all this other ship.

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Speaker 3: But like like evening they had to spit, yeah, Foxy Brown.

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Speaker 5: And remember they used to put them girls in like

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Speaker 5: You know, they had to rap against the boys, you

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Speaker 5: Like those that era of women rappers, like they kind

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Speaker 5: of was like it's a difference they they don't brand.

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Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong.

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Speaker 5: There's some rappers. There's some female rappers. Now I think

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Speaker 2: Flow absolutely fire. I love Gorilla. I think I think Lotto.

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Speaker 5: Really can flow absolutely yeah. Uh that one girl, Lady London.

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Speaker 5: You know, I don't think she may the stream yet

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Speaker 5: she can. Like it's some girls that don't do the stripper.

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Speaker 4: Rap, those can really wrap too.

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Speaker 2: A good balance. Put her more like in pop like

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Speaker 2: R and B.

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Speaker 5: I feel like, I don't know that I don't buy

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Speaker 5: like a dozer rap like album, but I wouldn't mind

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Speaker 5: like smashing, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Definitely a little bit.

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Speaker 6: She's algorithm, yeah, phenomensic.

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Speaker 2: But what I'm saying like, I.

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Speaker 5: Kind of I kind of see like she she can

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Speaker 6: Check out her most recent album that was last year, right,

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Speaker 6: Yeah that's she's rapping on.

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Speaker 2: That litt Less Pops to Paint the Town Red. That

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Speaker 2: to Pay the Time. I love that natural hal bbls

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Speaker 2: and yeah girl you you you know who I am you. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: what what do you think about the music your kids

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Speaker 5: Like there's nothing against the artists that they like. You

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Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, It's just what I get from

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Speaker 5: my Like when my son's like playing the Ship loud

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Speaker 5: he's like yelling at.

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Speaker 4: Someone who is listening to those Who's he listening to?

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Speaker 4: Who's he listening to?

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Speaker 2: Wave?

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Speaker 5: Like he was like Rod Wade okay for trash and

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Speaker 2: And I'm like like, like, like, get off of it,

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Speaker 2: straight up. I don't like soft parents and I like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, he like, no, we don't do soft parenting.

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Speaker 2: That don't work for us. I'm the only one that's

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Speaker 5: It's like, no, no matter how many times I yell

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they know they know dad got a soft spot. Man,

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Speaker 4: they know dad got a soft spot.

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Speaker 5: Would they know I do more threatening than anything? Of course,

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Speaker 5: he got to do threatening than anything. But they their

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Speaker 6: If your son wanted to go to the rod Wave

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Speaker 2: Uh? It was actually out here, you know, I did

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Speaker 5: Almost walk back up in here at like three age,

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Speaker 5: I'm like, come on, man, I'm like.

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Speaker 4: No, but road Wavers, you know it's it's it's not

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Speaker 2: But it's not for me.

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Speaker 3: But it's like, the more you know, I want to

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Speaker 3: oh yeah yeah. It's like it's like I'm going to

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Speaker 6: It's like sad cosplay because you could tell like he's

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Speaker 6: rich and happy, yeah, but he's just crying.

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Speaker 2: I can't do it. He's faking suicide at the show,

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Speaker 2: like oh my god. They jumping off buildings and ship

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Speaker 2: I can't do it, Like uh huh, that move. It's

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Speaker 5: But like you know, a lot of these new artists

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Speaker 2: He doesn't us they're gonna move. Regardings like Kevin Gates.

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Speaker 5: I think I probably only heard maybe like one Kevin

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Speaker 5: his concerts be selling out. He'll get a chick on

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Speaker 2: I'm like, you should. You should actually listen to Gates though,

441
00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:23,440
Speaker 2: because if you love Gates his music.

442
00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, So the thing is like his interviews kind of

443
00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:33,080
Speaker 5: like scare me off that music. Yeah, yo, come on, man,

444
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:34,240
Speaker 5: you're gonna smash your cousin.

445
00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:37,880
Speaker 2: It's not in the music at all. Even if you're

446
00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,360
Speaker 2: being for real, you can't. Yeah.

447
00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, his music, his music is.

448
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,720
Speaker 3: I think his music. You're growing up on the same

449
00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:46,360
Speaker 3: type of music we grew up on, or I grew

450
00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,879
Speaker 3: up on. I think that you would appreciate some of

451
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,120
Speaker 3: the Kevin Gates ship though, and a lot.

452
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:54,000
Speaker 6: Of his contents similar to to X as well. He's

453
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,120
Speaker 6: definitely more on the grimy side. He's not rapping about

454
00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:57,760
Speaker 6: weird ship like fucking his cousin or anything.

455
00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:58,200
Speaker 2: I promise.

456
00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, you gotta check them out.

457
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:02,080
Speaker 6: I was scared too, and I would see like the

458
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:03,960
Speaker 6: Genius ship and I saw a few freestyles, but it

459
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 6: didn't convince me enough to like go to the album.

460
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,399
Speaker 2: I love Kevin Gates now, really he can really wrap you.

461
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you like it.

462
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,560
Speaker 2: I'm gonna check him out. You learned something everything.

463
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:14,920
Speaker 3: We're gonna were gonna check in with you in a

464
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,440
Speaker 3: in a month and see if you listen to any

465
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 3: of the Kevin Gate shit. Yeah, I'm I'm gonna be

466
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:20,960
Speaker 3: watching you to make sure see if you posting any

467
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,200
Speaker 3: videos of his music in the back. I'm gonna be

468
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,200
Speaker 3: following your socials just to see what you're doing. But

469
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,440
Speaker 3: I think you'll fuck with Kevin Gates though. I want

470
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,359
Speaker 3: to say, all right, we're gonna see check back.

471
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,720
Speaker 2: In the month. Yeah. I actually have this this fear

472
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:33,240
Speaker 2: with my daughter.

473
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,399
Speaker 6: I mean, she's only two years old, but once she

474
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,159
Speaker 6: gets older and I want to start playing her the

475
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,080
Speaker 6: music I grew up on. I'm almost convinced she's gonna

476
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 6: think it's trash and it's gonna break my heart. Like

477
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,359
Speaker 6: if you played your kids ex jay Z any of

478
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:45,959
Speaker 6: that stuff and they just looked at you like, why

479
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 6: would you like this?

480
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, one of my fears.

481
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:53,000
Speaker 5: They haven't said it was trash, but they just like, nah,

482
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:57,879
Speaker 5: you old, Like nah, that's old dad, that's oh you

483
00:22:57,960 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 5: need to listen to this, So listen to that.

484
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:07,159
Speaker 2: Like my daughter like loves like little baby, I like

485
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 2: little baby.

486
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:12,480
Speaker 5: He's he's a person like in their era, like their

487
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 5: genre moves.

488
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 2: I think he makes really good music. Yeah for sure.

489
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 5: I like I like Gunna, you know what I'm saying.

490
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 5: Like it's a few of them I do like I

491
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:26,399
Speaker 5: like the baby, you know what I mean. He seemed

492
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,639
Speaker 5: like he part of the institution, like he would be

493
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:29,159
Speaker 5: a raven.

494
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,359
Speaker 2: You know. He looked like he like one of us,

495
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 2: like ravens, Like we're all a little fucked up. Yeah, yeah,

496
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 2: y'all are special. Yeah yeah, we ravens. Man, It's just

497
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 2: it's just us as you need know how to pick them.

498
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's the fact, is that, Like do you feel

499
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,160
Speaker 6: that immediately in the rock locker room, like your rookie year,

500
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,200
Speaker 6: did you look around at like all these I have

501
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 6: not met these guys, but I could tell they're just

502
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 6: like me.

503
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 4: Okay, so the vets like who was your vet when

504
00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 4: you came in?

505
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 2: Dlis Thomas A D A D was my vet.

506
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 5: He's like, we got a great relation. He's still like

507
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 5: a big brother. Mean, we still got a good relationship.

508
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 5: But like they they hate me all right, Like they like,

509
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,719
Speaker 5: all right, your rook We're gonna welcome you to the NFL,

510
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 5: and we're gonna see you, you know what I'm saying,

511
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,879
Speaker 5: see what you got. And like by the end of

512
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,479
Speaker 5: shaining camp, they gonna know, all right, if you one

513
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 5: of us, are you not? You know what I'm saying,

514
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,159
Speaker 5: And that I had to go through, you know what

515
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,920
Speaker 5: I'm saying, my traditional hazing. But it was kind of

516
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 5: like after a while it got became fun. It started

517
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,360
Speaker 5: was just like, man, these motherfuckers, like this is bullshit,

518
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, play ball, But then it

519
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 5: got fun and then like they started warm on to

520
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:43,159
Speaker 5: your personality and then you're like, oh, we all are

521
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 5: the same. We're just a different brand of kool Aid.

522
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,399
Speaker 5: Some of us is great fruit punch, strawberry, you know

523
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. We just our own different brands of

524
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 5: the same product.

525
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,160
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. But it was it was dope.

526
00:24:55,320 --> 00:25:00,359
Speaker 5: So a D was my VET, and yeah, yeah, like

527
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,360
Speaker 5: I kind of want I wouldn't say, like because training camp,

528
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,399
Speaker 5: your first training camp is a bitch, Like it sucks.

529
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 5: It's long, you get your ass kicked every day. Like

530
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 5: your first training camp sucks, you know what I'm saying.

531
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 5: But like after training camp, I was like, we're pretty dope.

532
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 5: This is a pretty op dope group of guys. And

533
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 5: it was like the first time I ever been a

534
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 5: part of a team that had like more than one dog,

535
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. Of course, that was the

536
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 5: alpha male, but then all them captains underneath him general

537
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 5: like all.

538
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 2: Bad asses kick you know what I mean. When you

539
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 2: go down dark Alley with everybody under him.

540
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 5: It's like, all right, we all asked kicks, let's let

541
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 5: we do all let's go do this, you know what

542
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 5: I'm saying. So like it was the first team that

543
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 5: I ever been on that I wasn't the top dog.

544
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 2: And then like it was like, not only am I

545
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 2: not the top dog, It's like ten of us, all

546
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 2: of us do that.

547
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 4: Everybody can play.

548
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was dope, man, it was real dope.

549
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 3: You have one of They had one of the best defenses,

550
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 3: well for a few years, the defense of the Baltimore Ravens.

551
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 4: That's what you'all hung your hat on. When you first

552
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 4: got to the league.

553
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 3: Who was the first player that you lined up across

554
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 3: that you realized like, oh shit, this is a different level.

555
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 2: Johnathan Ogden, of course he was on my team.

556
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, he was the first person that I realized, like, dude,

557
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 5: this ain't college, Like, you're not the ship you did

558
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 5: in college.

559
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 2: You're not don't be able to do all that ship

560
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 2: up here, you know what I'm saying.

561
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 5: So Johnathan Aghman, he was just like this big ass

562
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,120
Speaker 5: gentle giant, never got angry or anything and just kicked

563
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 5: your ass every day. You five, He then, good job.

564
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 5: Never raise this boy. JA So not teammate that wasn't

565
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 5: my teammate. The first person I went up against, well,

566
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 5: I can't. Well he was my teammate in college, so

567
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 5: Levi Jones. I played against him like he was like

568
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 5: the very first athletic tackle I ever played against.

569
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 2: But I played against him in college. You know, we

570
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 2: were teammates in college, so Levi.

571
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 5: We always had our battles. But I would say the

572
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 5: first person that I would probably say really got after

573
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 5: me or like whoop my ass Willie RoAF, you know

574
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. Like Willy Rope was huge. He just

575
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 5: beat the ship out of it. And that wasn't like

576
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 5: my rookie year. I was like two or three years in.

577
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 5: He wrote the ship out of me. Both of his

578
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 5: guards were tough, Brian Waters and will Shields, you know,

579
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 5: the Chiefs.

580
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 2: They was really tough.

581
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 5: And Walter Jones, he was like a six six six

582
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 5: seven left tackle.

583
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 2: That ran like a four or five or four six.

584
00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 5: He was like free athletic, like just cheating, you know

585
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, Like Walter Jones, Like I've had some

586
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 5: battles with them dudes.

587
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 6: So, yeah, who's the toughestuff running back? Huh, who's the

588
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 6: toughest running back.

589
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 5: Who's the toughest running back? Brandon Jacobs. So we played

590
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 5: this motherfucking in a preseason game. You know, Brandon Jacobs

591
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 5: is as big as linebacker. You know, he's for too

592
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 5: fifty to sixty and they got me off the ball.

593
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 5: Motherfucking playing off the ball linebacker. If everybody knows, like

594
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 5: my game is not back there, you know, at the

595
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 5: line of scrimmage and going forward. But this particular player,

596
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 5: I'm off the ball and this motherfucker had a cutback,

597
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 5: like the run is the way and he cut back

598
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 5: and it's just being him. Now, I'm not gonna say

599
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 5: I lost this battle, but I didn't win it either.

600
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 5: And it seemed like I was trying to like tackle

601
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 5: this mo fucking for like a minute and I'm thinking, like, Yo,

602
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 5: where the fuck is this badass defense at And we

603
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 5: supposedly calls us, we supposed to be swarming, We all

604
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 5: supposed to be hitting this long fucker him by myself.

605
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 5: So I smashed right into brandage that damn. I'm like,

606
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 5: I'm this was twenty something. This was about twenty years ago. Yeah,

607
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 5: Like I'm still talking about this head that collision. Like,

608
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 5: I'm like, Yo, that's that's not for me. If I

609
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 5: gotta do that ship for a career, you know, I'm

610
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 5: not gonna be here. Brandon Jacobs was a dog Adrian

611
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 5: Peterson or he was mother fucking dog and nobody knows

612
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:39,959
Speaker 5: this guy. His name was like Kevin Jones. He went

613
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 5: to Virginia Tech and he played for the Detroit Lions.

614
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 5: And the dude only knew like one tempo. He's like

615
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 5: the unto me, he's the unfamous Marshawn Lynch, like he

616
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 5: just always was on and you know, but this is

617
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 5: when Detroit wasn't good. They didn't have like good tight

618
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 5: good blocking tight ends and offensive line, and so he

619
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 5: didn't have he didn't never got to show what he

620
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 5: really could do. But under a good behind a good

621
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 5: offensive line, or a good running scheme, he easily could

622
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 5: have like led the league in rushing.

623
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, like Kevin Jones was was

624
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 2: a doll, Like.

625
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, you played you played running back in high school.

626
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 3: Do you think that because you played that at some

627
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 3: point in your career that kind of helped you? Because

628
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 3: I think I think you still do lead the NFL

629
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 3: all time and tackles for losses.

630
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 2: Do you think that that? Yeah?

631
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 4: I think so.

632
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 3: Do you think do you think that that because you

633
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 3: played that position, you're able to read the running back

634
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 3: a little a little better than most guys on defense?

635
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 2: I think somewhat.

636
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 5: I think playing running back, I think it helped me,

637
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 5: like with my feet just kind of like yeah, what

638
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 5: I'm saying with my work, so we say so, like

639
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 5: I think it helped in that aspect. But you got

640
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 5: to understand, like who we're dealing with here, Like we're

641
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 5: talking about the best of the best. You're playing, you

642
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 5: starting starting NFL running back is the best in the world,

643
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 5: you know, especially then this is when they actually ran

644
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 5: the ball, but so ass happy like it is now

645
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 5: like they was in you three type ends running powers

646
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 5: and plunges. You know what I'm saying, counter, they don't

647
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 5: do that shit no more, you know what I'm saying.

648
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 5: But like this is when like the back was was

649
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 5: the most important, you know what I'm saying, the quarterback.

650
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 5: Then it was the running back, you know, and then receivers. Now,

651
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 5: of course the quarterback and receivers.

652
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

653
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 5: Because it's a past happy game, But this is when

654
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 5: you was facing against a Hall of Fame back almost

655
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 5: every week, you know, and then you had the backs

656
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 5: coming that had that crazy speed, the Chris Johnson and

657
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 5: Ready Bushes. You know what I'm saying. People don't know that.

658
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 5: Like Red Taylor, he's six three, two hundred and twenty pounds,

659
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 5: he runs in four to three. This is this is

660
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 5: when the bats were bats ap all day. They call

661
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 5: him all day long. Like we ad the Pro Bowl.

662
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 5: You know, you had the Pro Bowl with your family,

663
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 5: were out there getting drunk. This is out there drinking water,

664
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 5: like nobody called on haw he broke the Pro Bowl.

665
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 2: Russian, right.

666
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 5: Dude out there. We're like, dude, you dude, realize this

667
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 5: is a pickup football. We're having fun. We will try

668
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 5: to win until his four cart Like I'm trying in VP,

669
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 5: I'm trying to break the record.

670
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 2: They're drinking water out their own business. Like when Sean

671
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 2: Taylor knocked that breakdown, it was the game to him.

672
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 2: You know when you go to Pro Bowl.

673
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 5: From the moment you get on the plane, they start

674
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 5: feeding you my tide like you like, I'm getting drunk,

675
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 5: drunk the whole week. Like if y'all see me sober,

676
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 5: then I failed you. You know what I'm saying, doing

677
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 5: the pro boil, right, you know what I mean? And

678
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 5: like all of us were getting drunk, he was the

679
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 5: only person sober and went out there and ran for

680
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 5: like two and.

681
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 2: Thirty yards against the world's best football.

682
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 4: Players, world's best hungover football player.

683
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, hungover football?

684
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 5: Yeah?

685
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 2: What was baby?

686
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 5: What was it like?

687
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 2: Uh?

688
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 4: In the locker room and just being around the legend

689
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 4: that ray Lewis is.

690
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 5: Man, it was dope. Like you know, of course, you

691
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 5: know where boys come. We can't say everything that was

692
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 5: said and done and stuff like that, but like dude

693
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 5: was like, it's not a facade, you know what I mean? Like,

694
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 5: dude is a real leader.

695
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 2: Like that's who he is. The ray Lewis, y'all get

696
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 2: is the ray Lewis. He is like it's not.

697
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 5: That's why it's so enticing and treating, you know what

698
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 5: I mean, Like intriguing, like like dude, that's who he is,

699
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 5: and like he's a leader, like he got he got

700
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 5: a relationship with everybody, you know what I'm saying, So

701
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 5: like of course you know you and Tim there, he's like,

702
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 5: oh shit is ray Lewis. It's just like getting being

703
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 5: on the team with Michael Jordan, you know what I'm saying,

704
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 5: Like the first time rookie got on the team until

705
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 5: Michael Jordan be like, Yo, that's Michael Jordan right there,

706
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 5: like you didn't seen everything this dude and dead And

707
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 5: in my rookie year he won Player of the Year

708
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 5: that year too, he won in two thousand when they

709
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 5: won the super Bowl, and then my rookie year he

710
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 5: won Player of the Year, only for a reed to

711
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 5: win it the next year.

712
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. So this is the locker

713
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 2: room I'm in, you know what I mean, Not to.

714
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 5: Mention all the other psychotic motherfuckers we got up in there,

715
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 5: like the Peter Bull Whears, the bar Scotts. You know

716
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, Greg Jerry Johnson, you know what I'm saying,

717
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 5: he was like Chris Mcallison. Years later we got Dwan

718
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 5: Landry back, like we had guys. You know what I like,

719
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 5: Our personnel was crazy, you know what I'm saying. And

720
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 5: the only reason we only got one super Bowl is

721
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 5: because like a lot of those times, we didn't have

722
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 5: an offense, you know what i mean, Like we ended

723
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 5: up losing in the playoffs that we couldn't score. But

724
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 5: first time you walk in that locker room like and

725
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 5: you like see him and you see how he here is,

726
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 5: like how his day to day. First thing I noticed

727
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 5: about ray lewis he like always had a gallon of water.

728
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 5: I'm like, dude, while you walking with a gallon of

729
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 5: water for you you know what I'm saying, Like you

730
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 5: didn't get no gatorade, Like now you know, I gotta hydrate,

731
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, I gotta keep everything moving

732
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 5: like he's the extreme professional at like all times. You

733
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 5: know what I'm of course, you know he lets his

734
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 5: hair down, you know what I'm saying, back when we

735
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 5: all had hair, you know what i mean, Like he

736
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 5: one of the guys and ship, you know what i mean,

737
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 5: have fun, you know what I mean? He participated. We

738
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 5: threw a racial draft, you know, like on Dave Chappelle,

739
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:39,919
Speaker 5: like you got the draft.

740
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 2: So we had one of them.

741
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,919
Speaker 5: Guys on our team, and ray Lewis like the first

742
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:45,280
Speaker 5: person he draft was the owner.

743
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 2: Like yeah, we're gonna tick the owner.

744
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 5: Were drafting the money, you know, Jared White Leason and

745
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 5: he get to pick all right, which one of the

746
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:56,439
Speaker 5: brothers he gets?

747
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 2: You know, they get it.

748
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,320
Speaker 5: It was all fun. Man, the great locker room. It

749
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 5: was a great locker room. It was because you know

750
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 5: him and there we were are leaders.

751
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying when y'all went out, was

752
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 2: it more Baltimore or DC DC? You can't hang out

753
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 2: you hang out anymore?

754
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 6: What if you want to like a Baltimore club music

755
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 6: type Bob or something. But like like and your facilities

756
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 6: were in West Baltimore, right yeah.

757
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, like like our city like embrace like we were there.

758
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 5: We're there, like we're like their family members.

759
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 2: Right. But don't have a bad game.

760
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 5: Do boys see you out? Man, Like you're gonna hear

761
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 5: it and you're gonna be like, man, funk out of it.

762
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 5: Man's a game, Like, man, what the you're gonna lose it?

763
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 5: You know what, Like if you have a bad game,

764
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 5: the city gonna let you know you out there doing

765
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:44,800
Speaker 5: that ship.

766
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 2: For the wire was real.

767
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 6: For sure, the wire is real. Like they didn't step

768
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 6: a single scene I think.

769
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 5: I think definitely like HBO had to like that loute

770
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 5: that ship. They like, we had tone this down a

771
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,919
Speaker 5: little bit, get there, you know what, but the wire

772
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 5: definitely real. Like Baltimore is Baltimore. You ain't got in Baltimore.

773
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 5: You better have your affairs in order.

774
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 6: Going out in DC in Baltimore, well not Baltimore, but

775
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 6: DC club music was a shock to me the first

776
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,879
Speaker 6: time I heard club music went out Like Baltimore club

777
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 6: music is different and Go Go music is wow to me.

778
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,839
Speaker 6: I love it now, but like I was initially kind

779
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 6: of thrown back the first time I heard that type

780
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 6: of stuff. Was that crazy coming from Arizona to them

781
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 6: going out in DC and here and go go right right.

782
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 2: So like you're like, what the fuck is this shit?

783
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 5: This is repetitive ass like house music, you know, like

784
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 5: I can't I can't get no honey to this, you

785
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. But they go crazy over it,

786
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 5: crazy over It's like their version of chopping screw for Texas.

787
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 5: Their own thing that they understand and they kind of

788
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 5: like they feel and they getting into a good vibe

789
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 5: with it. It's like their fun party music, you know

790
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 5: what I mean. So, but you know, the women are

791
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 5: top tier.

792
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,399
Speaker 2: Dm DMV women are some of the best knows.

793
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 5: So you know, men, we're gonna go over the women

794
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,919
Speaker 5: and we're gonna like whatever the women like to dance,

795
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 5: the go go boom next thing.

796
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,879
Speaker 2: You know, it's in the card next week. Pick them up, Like, yeah,

797
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 2: you learn how do the swing that ship dance? You

798
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like, oh, like yeah, man, I've

799
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 2: been on this ship.

800
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

801
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 2: Absolutely.

802
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 3: Now twenty eleven, you want Defensive Player of the Year.

803
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 3: What was uh what was your playlists?

804
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 2: Sounded like?

805
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 3: Like, what was your what was your pregame routine as

806
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 3: far as like what you were listening to working out,

807
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 3: like getting ready for the game.

808
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 4: What was in your ears?

809
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 5: It was definitely fifty because remember the year of fifty.

810
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 5: It's two thousand and three, the year I was drafted.

811
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 5: That's also the year Lebron James. You know what I'm saying.

812
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,399
Speaker 5: But the fifty wave was crazy, you know what I'm saying.

813
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 5: And he got a song on there. It's called if

814
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 5: I Can m H. And every time I got introduced,

815
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 5: they play it's like my theme song. Yeah, so I

816
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 5: would say that was definitely in my playlist like before

817
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 5: every game if I can't, And remember twenty eleven, like

818
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 5: Ray and Ed is still there, so I didn't get

819
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 5: introduced last, so they wasn't playing the song.

820
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 2: They were playing rays song, you know, hiding here.

821
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 5: But my playlist before every game, and it happened up

822
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 5: until my last game.

823
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 2: It was fifty cents if I can't.

824
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 5: Of course, like Balsa Hard that came out that year too,

825
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 5: bals So Hard that I watched The Throne of Jazy

826
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 5: Balsahar was on there. I got to think of it else.

827
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 5: It was twenty eleven, man, it was a good year.

828
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 5: It was Oh I think DJ Khalis on more than one.

829
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 5: That's two thy eleven, Ok, yeah that maybe that maybe twelve. Yeah,

830
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 5: it was at the end of eleven going into twelve.

831
00:39:56,440 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 2: Year. Yeah, like like all of them, it's all like

832
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 2: around that time. Around that time. It was a good time. Man.

833
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 6: What was Ray Lewis and uh Ed listening to the

834
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 6: locker room For some reason, I feel like Edy listens

835
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 6: like classical jazz in the locker room.

836
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 5: Oh so he's uh Frankie Beverly in the maid Oh okay, Yeah,

837
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 5: it's a real old soul you know, Isaac Brother, I

838
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 5: think that's in there. Who's besides Frankie Beverly, you know,

839
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 5: like they play it at all the cookouts, you know,

840
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 5: like yeah, the band like these are all a read people.

841
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Ray, I think he more gospel.

842
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:47,760
Speaker 3: Okay, that's hilarious listening to the guy man Ray lewis

843
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 3: listening to the gospel, and they'll both knocked the ship out.

844
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 2: You both knocked the ship out. Will knocked the ship out.

845
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 2: You you know what I'm saying. And you know, probably

846
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 2: the best ever to do it, fire, the.

847
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 5: Best ever listening to gospel music before he takes your

848
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 5: head off, before he put you on one of his highlights,

849
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. So I think like I

850
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 5: think Ravers gospel. I think he had like you know

851
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 5: what was big because you know they from Florida. What's

852
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 5: what's big in Florida? Is I want to say, like

853
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 5: the big timers or or cash money? Yeah, like cash

854
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 5: money was like huge in Florida.

855
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

856
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 5: And so I think he was listening to to Juvenile too, Okay,

857
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 5: I think he had like he started with gospel maybe

858
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 5: and like right before he went out because he had

859
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 5: to put the KPE on, you know what I'm saying,

860
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 5: the booth. So I think like right before he went

861
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 5: out and put that Juvenile at four hundred degrees on.

862
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 2: Four hundred.

863
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

864
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 3: Now twenty twelve, on your Super Bowl on your Super

865
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:01,839
Speaker 3: Bowl run, you came back from Achilles injury. You came

866
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 3: back ahead of schedule. Actually, what was you doing because

867
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 3: to come back from you know, Achilles, as you know,

868
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 3: is one of the most devastating injury in sports. What

869
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,800
Speaker 3: did you do to kind of like get ahead of

870
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 3: the schedule and return so soon? Like what was your

871
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 3: workout regimen? I know you had a crazy playlist, Like

872
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 3: what was you going through? What mindset was you in?

873
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 5: I was like, I knew we were on the brink

874
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 5: and I had just one player of the year and

875
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 5: I just didn't want them to do it without me.

876
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 5: I did want them to do it without me. So

877
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 5: like doctor, you know, I had the best you know

878
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 5: foot doctor in America. You know what I'm saying. His

879
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 5: named Bob Anderson. He was like, Terrell, I understand, I

880
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 5: deal with this all the time. I know your athlete.

881
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 5: You're gonna want to do stuff. The best thing I'm

882
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 5: gonna tell you to do is that don't do anything.

883
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 5: Don't try to work out your upper body, don't try

884
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 5: to don't do anything for two months, he said. The

885
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 5: first two months you're gonna be miserable because you're gonna

886
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 5: be so bored laying in the bed. So I basically

887
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 5: I got a hedge of schedule by not doing anything.

888
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 5: I just stay still, you know what I mean, for

889
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 5: two months. And then he was like, I'm gonna have

890
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 5: you in a walking boot and then from there it's

891
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 5: on you. You decide how fast you come back. So

892
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 5: once I got in that boot, I was just working

893
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 5: at motherfucker every day, Like I was just overdoing it.

894
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 5: Like you know, they tell you, like, all right, you

895
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 5: got to rehab it for at least an hour, hour

896
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 5: and a half or two of fatigue. I was doing

897
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 5: that like two or three times a day like I was.

898
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 5: I was doing three of days just trying to get

899
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 5: it back. And that was like doing like towards the

900
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 5: end of the summer going into training camp, and I

901
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 5: was just running and I was able like once I

902
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,240
Speaker 5: was able to walk, I was able to speed walk,

903
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, and then speed walks going

904
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,839
Speaker 5: to jogging, jogging going in like a little faster jog,

905
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 5: and then you next thing, you know, for you know,

906
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 5: you're running, you know what I'm saying, and then you

907
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 5: sprinting and then you gotta get your explosion back. But

908
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 5: then get all your football and your time in and

909
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 5: all that shit back. But it was just a lot

910
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 5: of man hours. Man, it was a lot of It

911
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 5: was a lot of long days and man hours, and

912
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 5: my pain tolerance had to go up, and I just

913
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,399
Speaker 5: put myself through it and I was able to get back,

914
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 5: you know, of course, Like I got back, but I

915
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 5: still wasn't in the same player I was like the

916
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:25,879
Speaker 5: year before, like able to play, but I wasn't back

917
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 5: to myself, like I think I didn't really fully game

918
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 5: back to being like myself probably to like two thousand

919
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 5: and like fourteen, like two years later.

920
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 2: So it took like two years. Yeah, what's been the

921
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 2: key to having a career as long as you had?

922
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 6: Because you know, obviously football players tend to have the

923
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 6: shortest professional career just off the physicality. Seventeen years at

924
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 6: your position is very very rare. What do you think

925
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 6: the key was that you were doing.

926
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 2: I would definitely say, like.

927
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,800
Speaker 5: Like being a professional, like taking care of your body,

928
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 5: because like, of course, when you're young, you're ignorant, you

929
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 5: don't know what you don't know. You know what I'm saying.

930
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,760
Speaker 5: You're not dying all the time. You know what I'm saying.

931
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 5: You can get it in shape in a week or

932
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,399
Speaker 5: two or whatever, you know what I'm saying. But when

933
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 5: you get older, that shit ain't so easy, you know

934
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. You got to watch what you eat

935
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:23,399
Speaker 5: like all the time.

936
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

937
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 5: Bad enough, Like you know, being an NFL player or

938
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 5: a professional athlete, your year, your job is year round anyway,

939
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 5: you don't really get no off time, Like, yeah, the

940
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 5: season's off, but you're not off. You still got to train,

941
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 5: you still got to diet and all of that, you

942
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. So when you're younger, you get

943
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 5: away with being young, you know what I'm saying, Like

944
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 5: you can go hang out and still go to workout

945
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 5: in the morning. Then and not really affect you. You

946
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, not so much when you get older.

947
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 5: So when I got older, I had to cut all

948
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 5: that shit out. And it's like, all right, I will.

949
00:45:59,040 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 2: Do something.

950
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 5: All right, I'll go hang out with the guys, like

951
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 5: on a Saturday. That way, I got Sunday to kind

952
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:07,720
Speaker 5: of recover and go work out on Monday. So definitely

953
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 5: the key. Uh, you have to be the ultimate professional

954
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,760
Speaker 5: if you want to have a long career. Your body

955
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 5: is your number one thing. You got to always take

956
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 5: care of your body, even the little ailments your feet,

957
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. Like I had to start

958
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 5: getting pedicures, you know what I mean. Like I didn't

959
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 5: start getting massages until like my eighth or ninth year

960
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 5: in the league, and I was thinking, like damning this

961
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 5: my first four years, Like if I did, like got massages,

962
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 5: sports massage like my first four or five years in

963
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 5: the league, you know what I'm saying. And it took

964
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 5: like Hello, Di Nada. He'd be like, you don't get massages.

965
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 5: I was like, nah, I just never thought that God

966
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 5: would get one. You know what I'm saying, Oh no,

967
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 5: I got He gave me a massage. And it was

968
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 5: two girls like they besides you at the same time,

969
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, And like, I know it

970
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:04,800
Speaker 5: sounds like that. It's like they like stratch you and

971
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 5: turn you. Yeah, that's when. And then I got into

972
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 5: dry needle in like like I have a big fear

973
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 5: of needles. So anything concerning the needle, I'm like, I

974
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 5: don't know, I'm not doing it, you know what i mean.

975
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 5: But they started dry needling and that helps you recover fat.

976
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 5: Like it's painful, it hurts why you're doing it, but

977
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 5: the next day it's like you feel brand new.

978
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 2: It's like you never you never was injured. You know

979
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. You have to take care of your

980
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 2: body and like we're not hur's all right with that

981
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:37,760
Speaker 2: gallon of water man.

982
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 4: Like took you back to the gallon.

983
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:41,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, it took you back to the gallon.

984
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 5: So like normal people should drink like a gallon of

985
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,479
Speaker 5: water a day, Like athletes, we should drink like maybe

986
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:51,320
Speaker 5: two to two and a half because we're moving and

987
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,760
Speaker 5: hitting each other, you know what I'm saying. We're active

988
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 5: like all the time, you know what I'm saying, at

989
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 5: extreme rate, So definitely gallon the water.

990
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 2: They got to cut out the juices and shit.

991
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, take care of yourself.

992
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I know we're not really allowed to

993
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 6: talk about it, but the league just snubbed you.

994
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 2: So let's get into it.

995
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,720
Speaker 6: You're talking about physical health, having a seventeen year career

996
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 6: and some of the things we've seen with former athletes

997
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 6: from Aaron Rnandez, Juju sau. Have you focused on your

998
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 6: brain health at all because you have had such a

999
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 6: long career all the time. So I know the NFL

1000
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 6: wants to hide this and claim Hernandez was Gay's that's what.

1001
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 5: Player if you played at least three years, like studies

1002
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 5: have shown, just like you know, of course, after you know,

1003
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 5: some players pass away. Like every player that played at

1004
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 5: least three years had like some small sword or traits

1005
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 5: of brain damage.

1006
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1007
00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 5: When I stopped playing, like my last year was the

1008
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 5: twenty nineteen going into the twenty twenty season, and then.

1009
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 2: COVID happened, you know what I'm saying, So that weird

1010
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 2: shit happened, and like.

1011
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 5: I felt my brain just kind of like you know

1012
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 5: what I mean, I just didn't feel normal. So I

1013
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 5: was like, all right, I know the brain's a muscle.

1014
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 5: So I gotta get this my fucker working again.

1015
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1016
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,839
Speaker 5: When you're playing football, that is taking care of your

1017
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 5: brain because you're thinking all the time, you know what

1018
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:23,359
Speaker 5: I'm saying.

1019
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:27,760
Speaker 2: But so like I had to like get this machine working.

1020
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 5: So I just started eating books, man, like I had

1021
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 5: to really, I had to start.

1022
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 2: I had to use my brain, you know what I mean,

1023
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 2: to keep this mofucker working.

1024
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 5: Because like it's it's real, real, like because what we

1025
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 5: do were hitting each other with our heads at very

1026
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:50,439
Speaker 5: high speeds like repeatedly, damn, bam, bam.

1027
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1028
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 5: And like you said, I did for seventeen years, and

1029
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,399
Speaker 5: I did it, you know what I mean, over and over,

1030
00:49:56,640 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. And yeah, so like of course,

1031
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 5: like I'm paying attention to it and I'm checking my

1032
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 5: moods and stuff like that, but like mainly I just

1033
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 5: try to like read, you know what I mean. I

1034
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 5: do try to like do stuff to like get my

1035
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 5: mind working. Then have to like you know, think shit, Yeah.

1036
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 6: Is that is that something you guys talked about in

1037
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 6: the locker room or maybe amongst retired players is that

1038
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 6: actually like a theme players talk about it.

1039
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 5: It comes up like we do talk about it, like

1040
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 5: we're not shy about it, we're not tabot and like

1041
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 5: more so now than ever, you know what I mean.

1042
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 5: It's like you have to be aware because like every

1043
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:44,720
Speaker 5: day you hear about some former player like clapping himself

1044
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 5: in in a hotel room, you know what I'm saying,

1045
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 5: So you gotta you know, check on you know what

1046
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,320
Speaker 5: I'm saying, your people, you know what I mean, Like

1047
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 5: all of us, we all still kind of like in

1048
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 5: our group chat like.

1049
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 2: Check in, like yo, were good? Really you know, we

1050
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 2: just lost Jakobe. You know what I'm saying. We just

1051
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 2: lost Jakobe.

1052
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 5: So you know, they hit all of us and it

1053
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:11,320
Speaker 5: was just like you know, it's like it's letting us know,

1054
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 5: like it reminds us that how precious time really is.

1055
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. This The biggest misconception is

1056
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 2: thinking you have time.

1057
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 5: But you know what I mean, Like like I said,

1058
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,320
Speaker 5: like we do talk about it, and of course, like

1059
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 5: former players talk about it because that's usually when it happens,

1060
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Like when you're playing, you're

1061
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 5: too busy, you know what I mean, you got you

1062
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 5: got your job, and then you got your family. Then

1063
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 5: you got your girl, and then you got your cyps

1064
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 5: or whatever, and you got your other you know what

1065
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 5: I mean, whatever else you got going on. You know,

1066
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 5: when you're playing, it's busy, but then you you know,

1067
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 5: you stop playing and it gets quiet, you know what

1068
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:48,879
Speaker 5: I mean. They say the mind is the devil's playing ground,

1069
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. So you gotta be alert

1070
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 5: all of that.

1071
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 6: What did you think of Will Smith's accent in concussion?

1072
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 2: I thought it was terrible thought. I thought he did

1073
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 2: a good job. Information got out there. I just I'm like, no,

1074
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 2: that's not no Avacan accent. But it was like if

1075
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 2: I tried to do one, like it wasn't that good.

1076
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,359
Speaker 2: It wasn't that good. But movie was good though, movie

1077
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 2: was really good.

1078
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 4: Before we get into a trivia we got we got

1079
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 4: some questions for you before we get into that.

1080
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 3: Two questions, Ray Lewis or Lawrence Taylor. Ray Lewis, you

1081
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 3: answered that fast like it's been it's been.

1082
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 2: An ongoing thing, like you know, L T. I think

1083
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:42,319
Speaker 2: like like LT kind of.

1084
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 5: Like I don't know, I could be wrong, but like

1085
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 5: LT be like no, I'm I'm d linebacker, you know

1086
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. But I'm like LT like you had

1087
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 5: like a little edge, you know what I'm saying, Like

1088
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 5: you can't fock nobody.

1089
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 2: Was gonna block him. He already was a phenomenal talent

1090
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 2: that him. Come on, it's like somebody blocking that ship.

1091
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 2: But you know, you know, yeah, and he was just

1092
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 2: right yeah, but I give the edge to right, all right?

1093
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 4: And who is your most underrated quarterback? You faced? And

1094
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 4: who is the most overrated quarterback?

1095
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 2: You face? Who's the most underrated? Who was underrated? That

1096
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 2: was really good?

1097
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 5: I think Carson Palmer. Oh okay, I think Carson Palmer,

1098
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 5: Like I don't think he.

1099
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 2: Got his.

1100
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 5: His flowers because he did all his career in Cincinnati

1101
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 5: and it wasn't that good. I think they had one

1102
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 5: like playoff appearance in his time there and then came

1103
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 5: down kind of like revamped his career.

1104
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 2: Here in Phoenix.

1105
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 5: But like the kid, the man can make every throw,

1106
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 5: you know, Like you put Carson Palmer like a with

1107
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 5: a good team. Yeah he has at least three here, Like,

1108
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 5: dude had talent, Carson Palmer overrated? Who was who was overrated?

1109
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 5: I think Philip Rivers is overrated. I mean, he didn't

1110
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 5: win any Super Bowl, So I don't think you could

1111
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:21,320
Speaker 5: save the overrade.

1112
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know. I don't know.

1113
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 5: I mean like you only know the really good ones.

1114
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. You only know the really

1115
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 5: good ones. The coach you got, you know, the guy

1116
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 5: from Foxboro twelve, you know, you got Peyton Drew, you

1117
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:38,280
Speaker 5: know Roethlisberger.

1118
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 2: I would say he's underrated.

1119
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 5: I mean he a two time you know, super Bowl winner,

1120
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 5: played three you know what I'm saying. Like, I would

1121
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 5: say Roethlisberger is underrated, and like like he got more

1122
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 5: rings than Rogers. He got more rings than Breeze. You

1123
00:54:57,760 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. He got like more rings than

1124
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,879
Speaker 5: then MARINEO. Like like when you think about it, he's

1125
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 5: got like you got it as many as Peyton and Eli.

1126
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. So I would say Roethlisberger,

1127
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 2: he's probably the most underrated.

1128
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 4: Next to call it.

1129
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, the Steelers I would have to.

1130
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 5: Look and thinking they was like, oh this guy is that.

1131
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:31,919
Speaker 5: I'm like, he wasn't really like that. But the ones

1132
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 5: who they say are like that, the Rogers, the Brady's. Yeah,

1133
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 5: the man like they are like that, Like the motherfuckers

1134
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 5: can make your your night's long. Yeah, Pat Mahomes, you

1135
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, Like those guys. Yeah, but other

1136
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 5: than that, like nobody really stands out. Everybody kind of

1137
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 5: like muddles in the pack.

1138
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1139
00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 6: I feel like in your seventeen years, you saw like

1140
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 6: three eras of tight ends, whether it was blocking then

1141
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:06,320
Speaker 6: it was just little five to six yard routes, and

1142
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 6: now these motherfuckers are running like Randy Moss. What was

1143
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 6: the most annoying tight end era that you faced?

1144
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 5: Uh? I would probably say like the mid two thousand

1145
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 5: to the two thousand ten the Gates. Yeah, motherfucking Kellen

1146
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 5: Winslow Junior was a fucking problem this month. Like du

1147
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 5: he's one of those He's one of those tight ends

1148
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:38,359
Speaker 5: that run routes and shit like receivers. Yeah, Like Kellen

1149
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 5: Winslow was a problem, Like he was too fast for linebackers,

1150
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 5: then he was too big for DB's so like the

1151
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 5: only person that can color Kellen was Ed Reed. Why

1152
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 5: they played college ball together, You know what I'm saying.

1153
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:55,320
Speaker 5: They part of that Canes two thousand and two thousand

1154
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 5: and one, team. You know what I'm saying, So like

1155
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 5: Kellen Winslow was a problem, Bernon Davis problem, you know

1156
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, Like people don't know this, but like

1157
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 5: Delaney Walker, he was on that Super Bowl team with them,

1158
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:13,320
Speaker 5: the four to three problem, Like I can't cover them, motherfuck.

1159
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Like them era of tight

1160
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 5: ends was a problem now like Kelsey is a problem now.

1161
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 2: I'm kettle.

1162
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. Andrews marn I'm missing one.

1163
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 5: There's another tight end that that's there now, Like I

1164
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 5: can't think. But I said the the big three, you

1165
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying.

1166
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 6: But I mean even I mean retired, but Gronk, I

1167
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 6: mean even Hernandez before that athletic biggest fuck, Like how

1168
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 6: do you know?

1169
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 5: Gronk was big as fuck? But you know Hernandez was

1170
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 5: was like he was a problem. He was brought to

1171
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 5: the fuck up Like Aaron was a fucking hell of

1172
00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 5: a football player, too bad, you know he he.

1173
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 2: Was that was his second job. You know, he was

1174
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 2: a gangster.

1175
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 5: I was like, like, I forgot what just the incident

1176
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 5: that he got called him in trouble for it. It

1177
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 5: came out like oh you had been clapping for a minute.

1178
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 2: That was like his six body when once he got caught,

1179
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 2: oh my god, like on the field, like a couple

1180
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 2: of times, like you ain't.

1181
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 5: Ptrearch games got real chippy and I'm like, yo, I'll

1182
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 5: beat the funk out, like I'll kill you probably like

1183
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 5: telling the truth when it comes out gun powder on

1184
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 5: his head. That was just about that actually for real,

1185
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 5: for real, He's not sucking around. He's not sucking around

1186
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 5: like like we like dog, I gotta kill this guy

1187
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 5: because he got information on two other people.

1188
00:58:59,320 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 2: Yo.

1189
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 6: You you said you got drunk before the Pro Bowl.

1190
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 6: Aaron Hernandez would smoke dust, murder somebody and then go

1191
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 6: to the Pro Bowl.

1192
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and didn't go to the Pro Bowl and murder

1193
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 2: people there on the field. A problem, yeah, problem.

1194
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 5: He had arguably the best quarterback throwing to him, like

1195
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 5: never like them Patriot teams were a problem and because

1196
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 5: they had that two headed monster and drunk and and

1197
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 5: and and Hernandez.

1198
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think Antonio Gates and Vernon Davis kind of

1199
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 6: like we're the leaders into that new transition that we

1200
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 6: have now.

1201
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 2: It was the two time that it was just like unfair.

1202
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, like Gates like it was real deceptive. Gates about

1203
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 5: six two six three wasn't real big, you know what

1204
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 5: I'm saying. It wasn't like no hass kicker in the run.

1205
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 5: He held his own, you know what I'm saying. It

1206
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 5: wasn't like even though push over anything like that, like

1207
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 5: Kellen Winslow didn't block.

1208
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 2: At all like we do.

1209
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 5: Like when it was run all right, boom, we're playing

1210
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 5: ten on eleven because Kellen ain't gonna hit nobody will

1211
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 5: block nobody. But when they was throwing that muffing that

1212
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 5: ship was a problem and like Gates like he will

1213
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 5: rout your ass up like real fast, like no joke,

1214
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 5: like Gates was no joke. And Brendon Davis just had

1215
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 5: like lightning speed. Like Brendon Davis was crazy too, like

1216
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 5: that that era I think it is. I would give

1217
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 5: the edge too, because like you said, they had the ground,

1218
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 5: they had her Nandez, you know they had.

1219
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 2: I would. I would even put Tony Gonzales in that

1220
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 2: late era. Yeah, I'm sure era. Yeah, I would get

1221
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 2: an edge to that to them.

1222
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 3: All right, before we get out there, we're gonna shoot

1223
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 3: three questions at you. I believe you have some questions

1224
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 3: for us as well. All Right, we're gonna we're gonna

1225
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 3: ask you a question first, and then you asked us

1226
01:00:58,200 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 3: to see.

1227
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 4: How much or find out exactly how how much ball

1228
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 4: We do not know.

1229
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:05,480
Speaker 3: So first question for you. What song won Best Rap

1230
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 3: Song at the twenty eleven Grammys. That's the year that

1231
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 3: you won Defensive Player of the Year. Was it a

1232
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 3: otis jay Z and Kanye b All of the Lights?

1233
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 3: Kanye Rihanna, Kid cutting see Black and Yellow? Was Khalifa

1234
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 3: or d look at Me Now? Chris Brown and Bustin Rhymes.

1235
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 3: This is for Best Rap Song at the twenty eleven Grammys.

1236
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 3: Otis All of the Lights black and Yellow?

1237
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 4: Or look at Me Now.

1238
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 5: I want to say black and Yellow because that shit

1239
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 5: was everywhere, but I'm gonna go with otis.

1240
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 4: No, it is all of the Lights. Wow, Kanye, Kanye.

1241
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 6: I mean that probably charted higher, but I'm with you.

1242
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 6: You could not escape black and Yellow in twenty everywhere. Also,

1243
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 6: you were playing the Steelers twice a year a moment,

1244
01:01:56,280 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 6: so yeah, yeah, crazy, yeah, no, you can escape that. Actually,

1245
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 6: matter of fact, you couldn't escape look at me now,

1246
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 6: Chris Brown, I would say, over all the Lights you can't.

1247
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 5: Because you know, Buster had that sick verse that everybody crazy.

1248
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 3: And we still don't know what he said. Sure, we

1249
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 3: still have no idea what he said. Yeah, hell no,

1250
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:16,960
Speaker 3: you got one for us.

1251
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:20,920
Speaker 2: Murdered that ship. But yeah, might going to ask y'all one.

1252
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, Okay, who was the quarterback of the

1253
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 5: team we beat in the Super Bowl? In the Super

1254
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 5: Bowl forty seven? Was it a Alex Smith, B Matt Ryan,

1255
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 5: C PM Newton or or B Colin Kaepernick? Would you

1256
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:43,920
Speaker 5: what did you say it was?

1257
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 2: This was twenty twelve.

1258
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:50,960
Speaker 4: It's Coline yeah, Kepernick, Yeah, Colin Kaepernick.

1259
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1260
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 4: It's when they turned the lights out on you niggas.

1261
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 4: That's when they turned the lights.

1262
01:02:56,640 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 2: To score money.

1263
01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it got out.

1264
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 3: They had to tell they had to unplug the whole arena, Like,

1265
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 3: hold on, we're about to get ugly.

1266
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 4: We need some more time back here.

1267
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 6: I just want to know. I want to proud. I

1268
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 6: think that was the first question. Mal and I both

1269
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 6: got right in this entire Syeah.

1270
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:17,120
Speaker 4: We know a little bit of ball, We know a

1271
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 4: little bit all right, good, okay, all right?

1272
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 2: What song was?

1273
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 3: What song was number one on the Billboard Hot one

1274
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 3: hundred the day you won the Super Bowl with the

1275
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 3: Ravens in twenty thirteen, was it Locked out of Heaven Bruno,

1276
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 3: Mars Suiting, todde jay Z and Justin Timberlake thrift shot

1277
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 3: Maclamore or.

1278
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 4: Diamonds, Rihanna? This is for number. This was number one

1279
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 4: on Billboard Hot one hundred the day that you won

1280
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:43,600
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl.

1281
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 2: I would have got this wrong.

1282
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 3: Locked out of Heaven, Bruno, Mars, Suiting Todd, Just jay

1283
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 3: Z and Justin Timberlake thrift shot Maclamore or Diamonds by Rihanna.

1284
01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 2: I'm only struggling with this. I want to say.

1285
01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:01,080
Speaker 5: I'm gonna just go ahead, and I'm gonna tell you why.

1286
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:03,919
Speaker 5: I'm gonna say mac Clamore because I think he beat

1287
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:08,000
Speaker 5: Kendrick that year for Best Rap Album. YEP, So I

1288
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 5: want to say Matt Clamore.

1289
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:13,520
Speaker 2: That is correct. You are correct. I would have win, Rihanna, Diamonds.

1290
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 2: I was gonna go diamonds too. That would have been

1291
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 2: my guest.

1292
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:20,200
Speaker 5: Like, of course, we were thinking about the music we

1293
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 5: listened to and like we heard everywhere.

1294
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:23,600
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, especially if.

1295
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 5: We went out Diamonds up everywhere with the remixs and

1296
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:31,240
Speaker 5: ship so diamonds were huge. But like I said, I

1297
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 5: remember Maclamore beating Kendall Lamar and like the world was

1298
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 5: like what he not only had to come from somewhere.

1299
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:43,040
Speaker 6: He not only beat Kendrick, he beat Kanye Yeesus, he

1300
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:47,960
Speaker 6: beat Drake. Nothing was the same beating Magna Carta four

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01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:51,160
Speaker 6: classic albums, you know, And I was just like.

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01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 2: Oh shit, I remember everybody like, what the fuck is

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01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:57,600
Speaker 2: going on with the Grammy. I couldn't even tell you

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01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:00,440
Speaker 2: the name of that Maclamore album. Stud can't tell you

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01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 2: a song on it. Never even heard.

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01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 6: There was the one he said he was gay? I

1307
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 6: remember that one that was that was that was bad ball?

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01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 2: All right? Who ab I sat the most times in

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01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:16,160
Speaker 2: my career? Was it one?

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01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:21,919
Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers, two Ben Roethlisberger, three Carson Palmer or four

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01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 5: Tom Brady?

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01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 2: All right? By elimination, I'm trying to think who you

1313
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 2: played twice a week? So I don't know.

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01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:33,600
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say big.

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01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:36,120
Speaker 2: Berg always had a good offensive line.

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01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say Big Ben.

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01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:41,040
Speaker 6: I'll go Carson Palmer just to have a different answer.

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01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:48,520
Speaker 2: Ben Roethlisberger, Ben, I mean you know, it's the biggest

1319
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 2: rivalry in that division. The rivalry.

1320
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:57,360
Speaker 5: So Ben Roethlisberger, I think I got Carson, Like, I

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01:05:57,440 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 5: think Carson is like second or no, it's any Eveland

1322
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 5: Brown's quarterback whatever.

1323
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:08,080
Speaker 2: Whatever. You had the first pick and drafted a quarterback

1324
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:11,920
Speaker 2: and it didn't work. Yeah, yeah, he's on that. Cleveland

1325
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:13,560
Speaker 2: has always been barely good to me.

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01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 6: Pause before this question, because Ben Roethlisberger was bigger than

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01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:20,960
Speaker 6: most quarterbacks.

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01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:23,040
Speaker 2: Was he tougher to sack? That just felt like a

1329
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 2: weird question.

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01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 5: He was, And like that's almost like when he became

1331
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:33,959
Speaker 5: like Ben roth Like he became better when the play

1332
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 5: broke down, he had to break a sack and he

1333
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:40,320
Speaker 5: had to play like backyard football. Yeah, like you want

1334
01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:43,400
Speaker 5: him in there just kind of playing quarterback. You don't

1335
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 5: want him playing streetball. Ben Roethlisberger would like your ass up,

1336
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:51,760
Speaker 5: Like the only person betted at him at playing streetball.

1337
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:55,320
Speaker 5: Of course, besides Lamar Jackson is Michael Vick and those

1338
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:57,880
Speaker 5: two phenomenal fucking athletes.

1339
01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:00,960
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like a huge complimenting quarterback.

1340
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:04,920
Speaker 6: Pat Mahomes two. Just putting Ben Roethlisberger with r is crazy.

1341
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:07,919
Speaker 5: Mahomes is good. Oh, I don't know what the fuck

1342
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 5: I was thinking. Pat Mahomes is good playing fucking street football,

1343
01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:16,880
Speaker 5: you know, but he's so good playing fucking pocket football too. Yeah,

1344
01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:19,600
Speaker 5: like they would say, you know, playing in the pocket,

1345
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 5: it'd be Tom Brady and and Patrick Mahomes playing pocket football.

1346
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:28,440
Speaker 5: But when you when they're getting loose and got to

1347
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:32,440
Speaker 5: make him play vig Lamar Roethlisberger.

1348
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:34,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all.

1349
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:36,000
Speaker 4: Right, last question from us to you.

1350
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:39,760
Speaker 3: Ravens fans were the first American team to popularize a

1351
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 3: chant to this song, the White Stripes, seven Nation Army

1352
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 3: motel Jordan, this is how we do it.

1353
01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:49,000
Speaker 4: The fans ol a Ola or Queen, we will rock.

1354
01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:56,120
Speaker 5: You, White straight seven Nation Army boom. That was That's

1355
01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:59,280
Speaker 5: the that was, That was there was the Raven Empire.

1356
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:02,880
Speaker 5: Absolutely balls got there from that two thousand and eight.

1357
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:08,440
Speaker 5: It's about that twenty twelve twenty thirteen run.

1358
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:11,960
Speaker 2: That I went crazy. I could be wrong.

1359
01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:14,960
Speaker 6: Is the Ravens the only team that has an actual

1360
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:17,200
Speaker 6: marching band and live band after the game?

1361
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:19,599
Speaker 2: I think so? I think so. Yeah.

1362
01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:23,679
Speaker 5: That was a shong team to have a mascot named

1363
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:26,960
Speaker 5: after a poem. Yeah, you know what I'm saying we're

1364
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:30,920
Speaker 5: the only team to have three different Defensive Players of

1365
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 5: the Year drafted and play on the same team.

1366
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:38,120
Speaker 2: So that's really to be crazy. We really so, man,

1367
01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:39,599
Speaker 2: what the hell is going?

1368
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:43,400
Speaker 5: Maybe the first person being in Hall of Fame twice

1369
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:45,719
Speaker 5: as a player and as a GM.

1370
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:46,599
Speaker 4: Absolutely crazy.

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01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 2: Absolutely for the player and as a GM. He's had

1372
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:50,120
Speaker 2: two Hall of Fame careers.

1373
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 4: Deserve slap the sh out you too, oh out, But

1374
01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:56,680
Speaker 4: you know.

1375
01:08:56,800 --> 01:09:00,320
Speaker 5: Ozzie like you know, he liked our uncle man like

1376
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:05,320
Speaker 5: a like a real good step back. The last question

1377
01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:08,679
Speaker 5: for y'all is who has the most sacks all time

1378
01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:16,519
Speaker 5: as a linebacker? Lawrence Taylor, Von Miller, Jason Jason Taylor,

1379
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:18,440
Speaker 5: or Kevin.

1380
01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:26,479
Speaker 4: Green most sacks all time? He said, a linebacker, Lawrence Taylor. Uh,

1381
01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 4: who else?

1382
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:32,120
Speaker 2: Was it? Von Miller, Von Miller, Jason Taylor or Kevin Green?

1383
01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:37,240
Speaker 2: I feel like I remember if Von Taylor broke he I'm.

1384
01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:41,320
Speaker 4: I want to say Vaughn because he played so many years.

1385
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 2: He just laughed, So maybe I'll just take that as

1386
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:44,800
Speaker 2: a hint.

1387
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:49,200
Speaker 4: Lawrence Taylor, I'm I'm just safe, bet lt oh.

1388
01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 2: I mean I did Eltie and vond go mm hmm.

1389
01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:53,519
Speaker 2: Kevin Green.

1390
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:56,600
Speaker 4: Really guess that.

1391
01:09:56,840 --> 01:10:01,880
Speaker 5: Wow, that's crazy. Kevin Green even that dog. Remember he

1392
01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:07,280
Speaker 5: was in Pittsburgh with you know, yeah and Greg Lloyd. Yeah,

1393
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:11,920
Speaker 5: that d and then he went to Carolina dominating over

1394
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:13,360
Speaker 5: like Kevin Green was a dog.

1395
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:15,800
Speaker 2: God damn a dog.

1396
01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:19,640
Speaker 4: That's crazy. Kevin Green has the most sacks as a

1397
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:20,719
Speaker 4: linebacker in the NFL.

1398
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:23,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would have got that wrong. Yeah.

1399
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:25,599
Speaker 3: I was gonna say Von Miller because he plays so long.

1400
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:29,080
Speaker 3: But that's crazy. Ship all right, Well fuck it. I

1401
01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:32,760
Speaker 3: guess we don't know ball Roy, Hey to right, you know,

1402
01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:34,800
Speaker 3: we got to right. We know we know a little

1403
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:38,880
Speaker 3: bit about ball'all do Yeah, a little bit, a little bit, Terrell.

1404
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:41,559
Speaker 3: We appreciate you man for giving us some of your

1405
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 3: time today. Again, Man, you know, I'm kind of, you know,

1406
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:47,760
Speaker 3: fucked up that you didn't make the first ballot Hall

1407
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:49,960
Speaker 3: of Famer. But in my book, you're definitely a Hall

1408
01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:52,160
Speaker 3: of Famer. There's no doubt about it. Not too many

1409
01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:55,160
Speaker 3: players have played the game the way you did and

1410
01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:57,840
Speaker 3: did what you did for organization like the Baltimore Ravens.

1411
01:10:58,120 --> 01:10:59,720
Speaker 3: It was a pleasure watching you play, but it was

1412
01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:01,400
Speaker 3: even a greater pleasure having you here.

1413
01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:03,240
Speaker 4: Today kicking it with us. So we appreciate your time.

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01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:05,880
Speaker 5: Man, Thank you, brother. I appreciate that. Man, it's been

1415
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:07,360
Speaker 5: the most fun podcast I've done.

1416
01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 2: Man, appreciate that. Here if I see if I got

1417
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:13,960
Speaker 2: up on my Kevin Gates. Yeah, check out.

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01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:16,880
Speaker 4: Check out Kevin Gates. Check out Kevin Man. We appreciate that.

1419
01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:19,040
Speaker 2: Anytime you in New York come up to the studio,

1420
01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:21,760
Speaker 2: we'll do another episode. Pash out, let's do it.

1421
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:22,920
Speaker 4: Appreciate you, bro, Thank

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Speaker 2: You all right now, I appreciate y'all.